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Good vid. Just wanted to comment on arcane needle. The 2:10 base cooldown is not for 1 melee, it's for all 3. The way it works is the first cool down is a minute, then the next is 45 sec, then the last is 30 sec (with t10 strength). This is compared to the always 45 sec cooldown of the void melee. I would argue that using osmiomancy gloves + arcane needle is best, since you get 2 grenade charges instead of 1 if you use the class item and if you can manage to keep 1 arcane needle charge you still get 2 more with shorter overall cooldown. I also get that arcane needle isnt the best but you almost never use the actual melee. The build in the vid makes sense, but I think this is slightly better, especially if you plan on using osmiomancy gloves anyways.
I'd stay with the fam and friends no doubt about it. The pain of losing/disconnecting from just 1 friend or family member is torture. Losing everyone at once, no amount of money in the world could substitute the loss. Great video man, been working great!
I’ve been running a variation of this in Iron Banner all week until I stumbled on this video. Gonna try this one and see if it works better. The one I’m using now uses Arcade Needle instead. I know the cooldown is higher, and yea it’s a dogshit melee. But when you get transcendent, it’s so worth it. I’ll be lightning surging groups of enemy’s back to back wiping entire teams sometimes. I also equip Felwinter’s Helm instead of Osmiomancy and it fucks up people’s day when I slide into a group and get a kill. I’ve consistently been top of the leader board, even if my team loses. I also use Vortex Grenade to lock down Control Zones or use it to suck groups of opponents in and then use my Lightning Surge to clean up house. Gonna switch my Helion for Weaver’s Call though because you have a good point. Still keeping Phoenix Dive. My weapons: Breachlight with Puglist & Vorpal (SHREDS guardians in their super, I have killed Hunters in the middle of throwing their Storm’s Edge MULTIPLE times, saved my life by a hair. I also killed a Warlock in their Well using only this gun) Timeworn Wayfarer with Keep Away and Precision Instrument (3 taps and gives opponents DISGUSTING recoil on their shots) Fragments: Protection Balance Awakening Sacrifice Purpose Blessing Super: Winter’s Wrath (don’t sleep on this, I’ve been getting awesome multi-kills when I slow my pace down and just focus on freezing groups before I shatter) Main reason I take this one though is for the Seasonal Artifact that buffs melee damage while you have a darkness buff.
Not played PvP in a long time. Only got back into Destiny a few months ago and decided to take the plunge and jump into Iron Banana. Started out running a slightly tweaked PvE build but felt I really needed something with a little more viability. I've tried a few different builds, but i have to say I really like the looks of this one. My stats aren't great but if this shows signs of working for me then it gives me something to work with moving forwards. 👍
Do you have any tips for using those coldsnap grenades? I'm sure it will take practice, but I feel like they always go off in some random direction like up a wall or doorway. The only thing I can reliably do with them is miss.
Use it right, you won't miss the second charge. But to have access to 4 lightening surges, is better for me (kinda like constantly having your melee up)
gloves are better than bond with osmio and claws, because 2 grenades > 1 and you can still get several melees with strand already. No point in getting another. Still a great build though!
I still prefer the class item. That instant grenade energy refill is so insane that you don't really miss having a second charge,esp if you use vortex or arc grenades.
@@MrArmageddonHQ I believe class is better, since it gives 2 of ANY nade, so you can run anything on PVE and be golden, but gloves are nice because they refil the charge if you hit something with it
@@MrArmageddonHQ Is there any scenario where gloves would be better than class item? Their text says pretty much same thing. I don't have the Osmio+Claw yet but have Osmio+Syntho, Osmio+Swarm, Osmio+Starfire, Osmio+Star-Eater, and Osmio+Verity. Which would you recommend? I feel like Osmio+Swarm while using Needle Melee and Needlestorm super could work?
@@MrArmageddonHQ legend and one more question, I have the class item (spirit of the claw and oseo) you mentioned, would you go with that or the gloves as class items are like a weaker version of the of the actual perks aren’t they
Now I just gotta get the class item to drop. I have 14 of them only one has osmiomancy (it came with super regen when picking up orbs) so that's the only stumbling block
yeah I would, but I would also 'not' by hiring a intermediary person talk to them for me lmao, ill give them 5 mil each and they can do whatever (realistically, money is very important so, i guess the tradeoff is only worth it if everyone benefits)
@@MrArmageddonHQ that's what I like about this build. I was just curious if you had "other builds for pvp" that also don't rely on class items. Thanks again for your content and "thumbnails" 😂
I would not even though it would be tempting to be honest with all that money in front of me. But good friends and family are of the highest value and would definitely not do so. Btw great video :)
The lightning melee actually does more damage when there are 2 or 3 opponents because of the jolt effects. But other than that, make sure to put some chip damage on them beforehand too
HOW are you able to slide and teleport, because mine doesn't work - EVER! And yes, auto-melee is off!! 🥲 I end up hitting people, even though I have charged melee, it acts as if it "disappears".. happens both in PvE and PvP..
@@Emenord well the slide is what activates the teleport. You slide and press powered melee. I recommend you either use auto melee and make sure the other melees are unbound or have a separate button for powered and unpowered. When you slide you'll see the melee icon change for a second to the lightning surge icon
@@MrArmageddonHQ I know how it works. It just bugs. So I slide, and teleport out of the slide, it does the animation, but not the hit. OR the charged melee just disappears. People in my clan say the melee for Warlocks bugs, due to the changes and nerfs in melees, so alot of Warlocks have found that melees are unreliable. I often have a charged melee ready, and when I try to use it, it's "gone" 😑😒
@@MrArmageddonHQ Also, I have same keybind for uncharged and charged. But auto-melee off. But I could try to unbind them, and just use auto-melee. But I have found auto-melee suuuper unreliable, but I mean.. what I have now, doesn't work either way, so.. 🤷🏼♀️
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What if you dont have osmiancy gloves
Good vid. Just wanted to comment on arcane needle. The 2:10 base cooldown is not for 1 melee, it's for all 3. The way it works is the first cool down is a minute, then the next is 45 sec, then the last is 30 sec (with t10 strength). This is compared to the always 45 sec cooldown of the void melee. I would argue that using osmiomancy gloves + arcane needle is best, since you get 2 grenade charges instead of 1 if you use the class item and if you can manage to keep 1 arcane needle charge you still get 2 more with shorter overall cooldown. I also get that arcane needle isnt the best but you almost never use the actual melee. The build in the vid makes sense, but I think this is slightly better, especially if you plan on using osmiomancy gloves anyways.
Absolutely wild thumbnail
7:19 you caught me red handed. well played lol
I'd stay with the fam and friends no doubt about it. The pain of losing/disconnecting from just 1 friend or family member is torture. Losing everyone at once, no amount of money in the world could substitute the loss. Great video man, been working great!
Great to hear!
I couldn't imagine losing my brother, and CHOOSING to lose him for money would destroy me over time. Absolutely not. Family is everything.
Respect
GOATED!!! Thank you iron banner just went nuts
Hahah let's go!
The GOAT is back!
Much love!
Look's perfect for my playstyle.. I haven't played PvP in a long time but I can't wait to try it out, thanks!
I’ve been running a variation of this in Iron Banner all week until I stumbled on this video. Gonna try this one and see if it works better.
The one I’m using now uses Arcade Needle instead. I know the cooldown is higher, and yea it’s a dogshit melee. But when you get transcendent, it’s so worth it. I’ll be lightning surging groups of enemy’s back to back wiping entire teams sometimes. I also equip Felwinter’s Helm instead of Osmiomancy and it fucks up people’s day when I slide into a group and get a kill. I’ve consistently been top of the leader board, even if my team loses. I also use Vortex Grenade to lock down Control Zones or use it to suck groups of opponents in and then use my Lightning Surge to clean up house. Gonna switch my Helion for Weaver’s Call though because you have a good point. Still keeping Phoenix Dive.
My weapons:
Breachlight with Puglist & Vorpal (SHREDS guardians in their super, I have killed Hunters in the middle of throwing their Storm’s Edge MULTIPLE times, saved my life by a hair. I also killed a Warlock in their Well using only this gun)
Timeworn Wayfarer with Keep Away and Precision Instrument (3 taps and gives opponents DISGUSTING recoil on their shots)
Fragments:
Protection
Balance
Awakening
Sacrifice
Purpose
Blessing
Super:
Winter’s Wrath (don’t sleep on this, I’ve been getting awesome multi-kills when I slow my pace down and just focus on freezing groups before I shatter)
Main reason I take this one though is for the Seasonal Artifact that buffs melee damage while you have a darkness buff.
Nice! Transcendance is a v. good point
@@MrArmageddonHQ combine that with Felwinters and you mess up teams. Especially if you pop it during a hunt.
Not played PvP in a long time. Only got back into Destiny a few months ago and decided to take the plunge and jump into Iron Banana. Started out running a slightly tweaked PvE build but felt I really needed something with a little more viability. I've tried a few different builds, but i have to say I really like the looks of this one.
My stats aren't great but if this shows signs of working for me then it gives me something to work with moving forwards. 👍
Welcome back! Hope you enjoy
@@MrArmageddonHQ TY 😊
These vid are always there when I need 'em ❤❤❤ fantastic as always man.
Glad you like them!
Great Vid! Dim Link, please! DIM LINK?
I found it! Thank you!
Just used this build, very good thank you 🙏
No prob!
I can confidently say that this build op af .. you’ve earned my sub 😅.. but those thumbnails… 😂😂😂
Do you have any tips for using those coldsnap grenades?
I'm sure it will take practice, but I feel like they always go off in some random direction like up a wall or doorway. The only thing I can reliably do with them is miss.
You have to predict where ppl are and then run them into a grenade. You want them to collide with the grenade. Don't make the grenade chase them
Awesome build as always! Been waiting on this since the announcement. Also, no 100mil for me.
You and me both! lol
Only clicked on this to say that thumbnail is crazy
Add blink to cover the space for the cold snappys
Will watch this to the end just because of that video miniature 😂😂
Appreciate ya
Did you not go over the Artifact mods that are best with this build?
I tend not to because i want it to be relevant for future seasons. but for this one, i'd run the one that makes you radiant when you pick up an orb
What do you think of winters guile?
Not worth it in pvp imo
I'm going to stick with Osmiomancy gloves I think. I prefer the extra grenade charge to an extra melee charge.
Ditto tbh
Use it right, you won't miss the second charge. But to have access to 4 lightening surges, is better for me (kinda like constantly having your melee up)
whats the least bit of resilience needed in PVP/trials?
If you can't hit 70 resilience, 20 resilience is the lowest you want to go.
Very nice video!
Trying it now on Iron ill let you know if its goated or not....
gotta stay with the fam lad
Totally agree
No I would...what's the point of have 100 million if you can't share it with the ones you love?
Exactly my thoughts
To get away from them.
You could find yourself new ones to live for 100 million
You could find yourself new ones to love for 100 million
Am thinking about running osmiomancy with Harmony or Synthocepts
gloves are better than bond with osmio and claws, because 2 grenades > 1 and you can still get several melees with strand already. No point in getting another. Still a great build though!
I still prefer the class item. That instant grenade energy refill is so insane that you don't really miss having a second charge,esp if you use vortex or arc grenades.
Is spirit of osmiomancy 100% necesary to run coldsnap or can I use ophidian+claw?
Osmio is best in slot IMO, whether it's class exotic or gloves
@@MrArmageddonHQ I believe class is better, since it gives 2 of ANY nade, so you can run anything on PVE and be golden, but gloves are nice because they refil the charge if you hit something with it
@@MrArmageddonHQ Is there any scenario where gloves would be better than class item? Their text says pretty much same thing. I don't have the Osmio+Claw yet but have Osmio+Syntho, Osmio+Swarm, Osmio+Starfire, Osmio+Star-Eater, and Osmio+Verity. Which would you recommend? I feel like Osmio+Swarm while using Needle Melee and Needlestorm super could work?
@ComradeReds broadly speaking I think gloves are better tbh. But for variety it's fun to run class items
@@MrArmageddonHQ Is there something the gloves do that the class item does not? or is it just what your comfortable with?
your dim is diff from the video for fragments which one is better? haha
Always go with what i say in the video! sometimes DIM glitches
@@MrArmageddonHQ legend and one more question, I have the class item (spirit of the claw and oseo) you mentioned, would you go with that or the gloves as class items are like a weaker version of the of the actual perks aren’t they
I’m trying this build for sure.
It's great fun and super strong
I’ve got the Class Item with Osmeo and Verity’s. Better than running the gloves?
@@ROORHighness I'd run the gloves, Verity's doesn't do much in PVP (that i'm aware of)
Thank you pvp man, this is helpful caus I suck at pvp!
Hahah welcome!
Very nice combo definitely going to try this
Hope you enjoy!
Thumbnails are crazy insta sub lmao
Buy a fast enough car that your regrets can’t ever catch you.
LOL
He who has a loving family is already wealthy for life. Facts.
Wise words
The only reason I want 100M is to build my family's legacy and help people. No point in having all that without family and friends.
Absolutely!
Now I just gotta get the class item to drop. I have 14 of them only one has osmiomancy (it came with super regen when picking up orbs) so that's the only stumbling block
Good luck!
28 drops now and still don't have it
35 drops. I mean bungie!!!!!!!! I swear the chest method is timed as well. I cant get 2 drops in 30 minutes
What You got on tour DMT?
Rapid hit
100 mill🤔 ? Do I get new friends I’d do I gotta be alone? Do PSN friends gotta get cut too?
what about spirit of synthoceps + osiomancy?
It's decent but I prefer the gloves tbh
Would love to have tried this, but those legendary lost sectors are not really an option. =/
Soon they will be! Get grinding haha. You can also get the gloves from rahool
What family and friends? 100 million is my family.
100m relatives
The class item doesn't give you the extra granade does it?
Nope only one charge but the rest of the perks are the same
@@MrArmageddonHQ dope Build anyway, looking forward to see your Titan build!
Osmiomancy + Claw check, I'll try this later
lmk how it goes!
There’s a secret one hit grapple melee on hunter but I’m gatekeeping it 😭 ik players be thinking im hacking bro hunters have so many wombo combos
yeah I would, but I would also 'not' by hiring a intermediary person talk to them for me lmao, ill give them 5 mil each and they can do whatever
(realistically, money is very important so, i guess the tradeoff is only worth it if everyone benefits)
Got any more that dont rely on class item?
It doesn't rely on class item, you can use Osmiomancy Gloves!
@@MrArmageddonHQ that's what I like about this build. I was just curious if you had "other builds for pvp" that also don't rely on class items. Thanks again for your content and "thumbnails" 😂
@@JYVETV Literally none of my builds rely on class items lol. They all use exotics
100% I would, they would understand.
Lmao
Dope video and I only have my wife as my friend so I'm sticking with the fam
Good choice! and thnx
I would not even though it would be tempting to be honest with all that money in front of me. But good friends and family are of the highest value and would definitely not do so. Btw great video :)
Well said! And thank you
Let's see if new builds make me come back (:
i dare you
I tried it out, and whenever I hit a frozen enemy with lightning surge, it doesn’t kill them. Am I doing something wrong?
The lightning melee actually does more damage when there are 2 or 3 opponents because of the jolt effects. But other than that, make sure to put some chip damage on them beforehand too
@@MrArmageddonHQ Ok, thanks!
Its not 1 hit kill
Great build vid as always. Will definitely be trying this one out!
Also I'm turning down the 100M. Now carry pls 🤣
Have fun!
i get a near vivid image of the light bulb that went off in your head when you had the idea for that thumnail, my brother in christ 🙏
Game recognize game
What scout rifle is that?
Dead Man's Tale
I would 100% take the 100 million.
how are u making the pocket singularity change into a lightning nade
Lightning surge aspect works with any melee on prismatic
UPDATE! I HAVE 60 EXOTIC CLASS ITEMS NOW AND STILL DONT HAVE THIS DROP 😂
i dont have the second coldsnap charge with spirit of osmiomancy
Yep it's the trade off instead of using the gloves
Spirits from the class exotic only give half of the original perk.
i cant give up my fam and friends...
100 millon? nah no way
Family First. Ive been broke all my life might aswell stay that way.😂😂
Dom would be proud
@@MrArmageddonHQ just saying
Why don’t you use the needle? That will give you 3 charges for the lightning surge.
Nice troll
@@MrArmageddonHQ Not trolling hahah! It works in PVE, why wouldn’t it work in PVP?
Did you watch the video? He explains why
Yeah I watched it. Missed that part probably😂
That would be a NO!
totally agree
My mom is the only exception
I would not, because I would love to lavish in the money with my favorite cousin. I even want us to go to Japan and Disney World together.
Aw, thats sweet
im taking the money. ill send em some of the money and those frowns will flip, trust
lol for sure
I'm taking that 100M, might be lonely, but I ain't broke.
Money get money
Family first. I've got a pretty good one :)
Fun Fact: Those nude Aztecross oil paintings Fallout mentioned were all bought out by *BLACKED*
LOL?
spicy!
🙏
family over everthing tho
I would not
My little sister doesn’t play Destiny. What is she doing in this video’s thumbnail?
Step sister, right?
@@MrArmageddonHQ That’s so weird. How’d you know that?
As long as i could keep my fiancee i would cut everyone else out for 100m LOL
Lol i feel you for sure
I dont habe those exotic gloves sadly
Easy to get!
Focus target exotics at rahool to max him, when hes maxed you can pull osmiomancy from him for exotic 1engram + 1 exotic cypher
arcane needle being weak and having a long cooldown is just terrible lol
at point blank the tracking is terrible unlike Pocket singularity
man 100mil is temping, but life isnt really life with out friends and family
100%
Bro what is this 😭😭
I wouldnt take the 100 mil, bad trade offer
100%
Wtf is that thumbnail
A friend from school
What's this goofy ass thumbnail? 😂😂😂😂😂bruh...😂
HOW are you able to slide and teleport, because mine doesn't work - EVER! And yes, auto-melee is off!! 🥲 I end up hitting people, even though I have charged melee, it acts as if it "disappears".. happens both in PvE and PvP..
@@Emenord well the slide is what activates the teleport. You slide and press powered melee. I recommend you either use auto melee and make sure the other melees are unbound or have a separate button for powered and unpowered. When you slide you'll see the melee icon change for a second to the lightning surge icon
@@MrArmageddonHQ I know how it works. It just bugs. So I slide, and teleport out of the slide, it does the animation, but not the hit. OR the charged melee just disappears. People in my clan say the melee for Warlocks bugs, due to the changes and nerfs in melees, so alot of Warlocks have found that melees are unreliable. I often have a charged melee ready, and when I try to use it, it's "gone" 😑😒
@@MrArmageddonHQ Also, I have same keybind for uncharged and charged. But auto-melee off. But I could try to unbind them, and just use auto-melee. But I have found auto-melee suuuper unreliable, but I mean.. what I have now, doesn't work either way, so.. 🤷🏼♀️
Nope, I’d rather be with my family. Since I just lost my dad, money comes and goes 🥹
Sorry for your loss, friend