Nice piece. I remember way back in 75' when I was around 17, buying an EMF 1860 army brass frame for around $47 bucks. I was thrilled to be able to buy a real firing pistol through the mail. Of course, the quality wasn't very good, but it introduced me to the fascinating world of BP revolvers. I no longer have it but now have many others, including conversions, and even a gated Kirst I did myself on an 1860 snubbie. Nothing more fun than to tinker with these revolvers! I will say that over the years Pietta's quality has gone WAY up! Keep your powder dry.
These pistols work best with Remington or CCI #10 caps. The #11 caps are a wee bit longer and they don’t fit snug on the short #10 nipple. Other folks have squeezed the #11 caps to snug them up but find that they may still fall off or get blown off on either side of the round being fired due to the loose fit. Best fix is changing the #10 nipple to a #11. Some folks seldom have a problem with either but #10 is the best
You are correct, and I have been noticing - especially with these older replicas - that #10 caps seem to fit the best. I have some CCI#10, now, and use them exclusively with these older revolvers.
I have an old Euroarms NMA. Made 1973. It has a fantastic action on it now, but didn't when I got it. I bought it as a parts only and put it back into action. Had to hand fit all new internals myself. It was quite rough before that, and not just from wear. Just very rough casted pieces..I believe hand fitting is what was missing, as the Santa Barbara reproductions are also from around the same time and are exceptional in every way. I do really like your particular Pietta repro though and would love to see more. A video on the action parts compared to newer CNC ones would be fascinating. Thanks for sharing this with us all!
Yes, the internals on this are rough, to put it mildly. with how coarse the parts are, it's no wonder this thing feels like someone dumped sand into the action! That's not a bad idea to do a comparison between the old revolver and the new ones. I may do just that!
Mine, was great...no misfires...overloaded it though...27 grains powder...bent the frame and had a chain fire. My second FIE is still great as I use 18 grains of BP in it. It is old enough now it handles great and all works well! Fun Video. Ted
A Rhinestone in the rough, but as you said, fun to shoot and would also be a fun project to smooth up. Good to see you back. Look forward to more or your enjoyable videos 😊DJ
Thank you. One of these days if I have nothing else to do, I may try to go at it with a little emery cloth and see if I can't make this rhinestone shine just a little bit brighter!
@@johnzx6r 👍 I've found that Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish from any Auto Supply store can give brass a mirror finish and periodic touchup can keep it that way. I rub a little on with finger tip and small soft cloth until the tip of cloth turns black Then I use a clean area of cloth to polish like a mirror.
Yea gunbroker had a 1849 colt pocket FIE with 6" barrel. But with the very disappointing history I had with there products I couldn't bring myself to bid on it. All I was interested in was the 6" barrel. Hopefully uberti will make a 6" barrel for me someday Mountain man
Thank you for watching. I also had to pinch these a bit to keep them on. Tried a couple different types, but they all worked the same. Seems the nipples on these aren't made to fit any caps that are available today.
I just bought the same one for 165.00, new to this black powder thing. I think I should have spent another 100.00 and got a Pietta or Uberti. I have not even fired it yet, but the fit and finish compared to the new Italian ones is lousy. One of the few times they actually make them better now than they used to. I hope mine is more reliable than yours seems.
Seems like you're not using #10 remington caps which should be the only types being used imo. I haven't had one mis fire ever since owning the gun 2nd hand. So seeing a few not fired confused me a little tbh ..
Oh!! very important question for me here - I see you had those brown stains on the brass just like mine does. IS IT REALLY THE RUST? Can I remove it with some WD-40 or whatever? shiiit
It isn't rust if it is just on the brass. It won't really come off with WD-40, but brass polish will take it right off and make your frame shine like a new penny!
@@johnzx6r literally a few days without cleaning and it started to appear.. So I shouldn't use any derusting paste and just polish it? Yes, it is not on the barrel, but just the brass. Thanks
@@myliebiii Yes, it sounds like the brass is just tarnishing. Any kind of brass polish should take it right off. You can usually find it in the cleaning product isle of any grocery store or the like. Just follow the instructions on the polish and your revolver should look like new in no time!
Nice piece. I remember way back in 75' when I was around 17, buying an EMF 1860 army brass frame for around $47 bucks. I was thrilled to be able to buy a real firing pistol through the mail. Of course, the quality wasn't very good, but it introduced me to the fascinating world of BP revolvers. I no longer have it but now have many others, including conversions, and even a gated Kirst I did myself on an 1860 snubbie. Nothing more fun than to tinker with these revolvers! I will say that over the years Pietta's quality has gone WAY up! Keep your powder dry.
These pistols work best with Remington or CCI #10 caps. The #11 caps are a wee bit longer and they don’t fit snug on the short #10 nipple. Other folks have squeezed the #11 caps to snug them up but find that they may still fall off or get blown off on either side of the round being fired due to the loose fit. Best fix is changing the #10 nipple to a #11. Some folks seldom have a problem with either but #10 is the best
You are correct, and I have been noticing - especially with these older replicas - that #10 caps seem to fit the best. I have some CCI#10, now, and use them exclusively with these older revolvers.
I have an old Euroarms NMA. Made 1973. It has a fantastic action on it now, but didn't when I got it. I bought it as a parts only and put it back into action. Had to hand fit all new internals myself. It was quite rough before that, and not just from wear. Just very rough casted pieces..I believe hand fitting is what was missing, as the Santa Barbara reproductions are also from around the same time and are exceptional in every way. I do really like your particular Pietta repro though and would love to see more. A video on the action parts compared to newer CNC ones would be fascinating. Thanks for sharing this with us all!
Yes, the internals on this are rough, to put it mildly. with how coarse the parts are, it's no wonder this thing feels like someone dumped sand into the action!
That's not a bad idea to do a comparison between the old revolver and the new ones. I may do just that!
Mine, was great...no misfires...overloaded it though...27 grains powder...bent the frame and had a chain fire. My second FIE is still great as I use 18 grains of BP in it. It is old enough now it handles great and all works well! Fun Video. Ted
Thank you. I'm sure many of these old brass frame revolvers have met a bitter end by being loaded with some pretty stiff charges!
I have the sheriff model of this & absolutely love it!!!
Sheriff models are fun - I have a couple around here some where...
NICE , My dad got one at a Murphy`s mart store in 1975 for $35.00 my brother still has it today AWESOME , Thanks for the memories
That's great! Sounds like your dad got a pretty good deal on it, too!
A Rhinestone in the rough, but as you said, fun to shoot and would also be a fun project to smooth up. Good to see you back. Look forward to more or your enjoyable videos 😊DJ
Thank you. One of these days if I have nothing else to do, I may try to go at it with a little emery cloth and see if I can't make this rhinestone shine just a little bit brighter!
@@johnzx6r 👍 I've found that Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish from any Auto Supply store can give brass a mirror finish and periodic touchup can keep it that way. I rub a little on with finger tip and small soft cloth until the tip of cloth turns black Then I use a clean area of cloth to polish like a mirror.
@@dorisjohnson8857 Sounds easy enough - I will give it a try!
@@johnzx6r If it does work for you show us your results🙂 DJ
Nice video. I've been checking this gun out on Midway USA . I just ordered a 3rd Model Dragoon. The 1858 Remington brasser may just be my next gun.
Nice revolver thanks for sharing.
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good looking revolver maybe a little polishing the hammer sear with some mothers aluminum polish will help with the roughness.
It's worth a try. Some of the internal parts look like they were gone over by a monkey with a dremel!
@@johnzx6r wow!! not surprising as you know even new revolvers don't have that much grit or that much of heavy trigger pull without some explanation.
I got the same one in 76 with a box, powder flask and capper.
Nice! I don't think many of the accoutrements for these revolvers have really survived over the years. Pretty rare to still have them.
Yea gunbroker had a 1849 colt pocket FIE with 6" barrel. But with the very disappointing history I had with there products I couldn't bring myself to bid on it. All I was interested in was the 6" barrel. Hopefully uberti will make a 6" barrel for me someday
Mountain man
Some FIE's seem pretty good, others not so much. I've got an FIE 1849 that works well, but this revolver could use some work.
I have the same gun to. my caps fell off to. but when I pinch the cap a little. the caps did not come off. thanks for the video
Thank you for watching. I also had to pinch these a bit to keep them on. Tried a couple different types, but they all worked the same. Seems the nipples on these aren't made to fit any caps that are available today.
Great video as always! How’s the cylinder gap on that old brass framed gun?
Not bad. I haven't actually measured it, but it seems to be about on par with the newer revolvers I have.
Mam pytanie odnosnie Mosiężnej Ramy czy szczelina bębenek lefa się nie powiększa? Planuję kupić taki sam model. Pozdrawiam 👍🙂
Nie miałem żadnych problemów z żadnym z moich rewolwerów z mosiężną ramą. Ładunki trzymam lekkie i staram się nie naciskać ich zbyt mocno.
It's a cool pistol ... I like it despite the trigger.
I like it, too. I'm sure with some judicious polishing the trigger could be improved quite a bit.
I just bought the same one for 165.00, new to this black powder thing. I think I should have spent another 100.00 and got a Pietta or Uberti. I have not even fired it yet, but the fit and finish compared to the new Italian ones is lousy. One of the few times they actually make them better now than they used to. I hope mine is more reliable than yours seems.
I found one just like this but with a steel frame on a consignment table for $15 still haven’t shot it but I plan to
Wow! You got an absolutely fantastic deal on that! Lucky - I never find things like that 😞
Seems like you're not using #10 remington caps which should be the only types being used imo. I haven't had one mis fire ever since owning the gun 2nd hand. So seeing a few not fired confused me a little tbh ..
Unfortunately, the Remington #10 caps are extremely hard to find right now
Oh!! very important question for me here - I see you had those brown stains on the brass just like mine does. IS IT REALLY THE RUST? Can I remove it with some WD-40 or whatever? shiiit
It isn't rust if it is just on the brass. It won't really come off with WD-40, but brass polish will take it right off and make your frame shine like a new penny!
@@johnzx6r literally a few days without cleaning and it started to appear.. So I shouldn't use any derusting paste and just polish it? Yes, it is not on the barrel, but just the brass. Thanks
@@myliebiii Yes, it sounds like the brass is just tarnishing. Any kind of brass polish should take it right off. You can usually find it in the cleaning product isle of any grocery store or the like. Just follow the instructions on the polish and your revolver should look like new in no time!
Hi
Please test Remington Rider SA/DA
Regards
Artur
I most certainly will, if I can ever get my hands on one!