That reminded me of the scene with the old man. As a man, I appreciate the fact that Fargeat acknowledged that self deprecation, insecurity and loneliness is not exclusively a female issue.
@@carl_anderson9315 - thats what i think makes this movie so profound. they figured out a way to SHOW how both males and females struggle with these expectations placed upon them.
The interviewer did such a fantastic job! She was locked in and didn't even have to revisit her questions. You could tell she wanted to ask thoughtful questions and make them matter. Great job!!!!
The scene that freaked me out the most was Demi Moore's character, Elizabeth deciding to go to the alley, and crawl under the door into a dingy, trashy, tiny cement corridor. I thought, wow that's extreme desperation. Crazy, amazing!
That was tame compared to the ending scene lol sure it showed desperation but its normal thing that people feel about aging and especially how the character was sacked from her job I would understand that desperation if I was in her shoes.
It's because she had this note, and USB slipped into her pocket. Then she watches the Substance promo, that is lacking in detail, and then she doesn't turn away when it's in a grimey cement passageway that could be a shooting gallery. I've seen pretty extreme body horror in Brian Yuzna's "Society" and I just watched Terrifier 3 today with gore on a level with Fulci's "Cat in the Brain", so I'm jaded on that stuff. If I was an attractive woman with a nice home and money, I wouldn't be crawling into any shooting gallery tunnel. That's what freaks me out.
Just watched the movie and I'm completely overwhelmed with different emotions. The most horrible thing is how cruel and hateful we as women can be towards ourselves, food for thought
@@Anonymous-xm8ir Well but at some point you have to stop pointing outside and take responsibility again. In my eyes as a hetero man for YEARS this war of beauty waged among women. I have yet to come across a man who loves botox faces and all that. And from my own aging perspective I find young women less and less attractive and love how we all age, no matter if woman or man. I agree that societal conditioning is the source of it, but we have overcome that part and to uncondition women have to start banding together in "being natural" again.
Thank you. Demi Moore hit it on the head when she talked about how Elizabeth was the most violent to herself then the outside world. Also in the movie Elizabeth begins hating Sue because she’s young and looks better. Im glad you took away one if the most important points because many women are not getting it, they only see and think one thing which is men only are the villains and only care about age and looks and are extremely mean and are ruining the entire world.
@@bcali7343Well, men do run the world... And they really do care about women's looks and age 😅 If it wasn't like that, then women wouldn't act so desperate in an attempt to get men's attention and wouldn't bother with the cosmetic and surgical procedures in the first place. Because, I'm afraid, from men's perspective "love" for women equals sexual attraction for women. For a man, a woman is just a trophy, a possession(like a car) and a beautiful piece of meat until it's not "fresh" anymore, most of the time. That's precisely why women need to wake up and stop hating themselves and other women. It's a vicious circle in a world created by men and run by men where everything is being done in men's best interests.
This woman made `Revenge` and now `The Substance´ and she dumped all over most recent male horror directors who have been trying and trying with many movies and never could pull it off. She is an instant horror legend.
Why must you say “dump all over most recent male horror directors”? Why can’t we just agree that she made a phenomenal horror film? Women and men need to come together and stop trying to one up each other and instead focus solely on making great films like this one.
@@therealfilmenthusiast That's a nice, idealistic sentiment but not my point. I'm trying to celebrate a woman for making great horror movies in a world where it's all about males. Get that?
@@jasp19 I understand your point and I agree that we should celebrate this film and the director, however I feel that saying “dumped all over male directors” isn’t a very wise statement to promote or celebrate this director and film. Some men may feel singled out by it and not support it. I do understand your point though 🤙🏻
Men and women are both humans, and we can all create great art pieces, sometimes we are just restricted by society or times. It's more about talented people, not talented genders. Brought up everything with gender it's a step back towards cinema or any kind of artwork. Because we are not the most important things, the craft we made is, or at least our mind is more important, we don't want to limit ourselves by competing who is the better gender, it is a pointless also a endless conversation, just be respectful.
@@vicclein Well, I have now... and yes... yes indeed... Cooked AF - in the best way possible. But, the ending? Also brings new meaning to "monster co*k". Thank you.
Two actresses done a good job but the movie was pretty boring and silly, awful towards the tedious ending. Had the feeling of potentially being a good movie but went astray and absurdly bad in more parts than it was good. The lady in the middle is a pretentious moron sorry to mention. it is just my reaction to this video. Talking a lot of utter nonsense . Demi makes much more sense. It could have been an interesting and even clever creation, but sadly, it just wasn't! Kudos to the two actresses who done well with what they had to work with. Dull, disappointing borderline depressing.
@@vicclein I found this movie to significantly better than "Beau is Afraid" and infinitely more entertaining. Where as "Beau is Afraid" captures a certain audience in a relatable way, "The Substance" has proven to move almost every one who sees it in a relatable way.
@@pegacorn13 I dont measure quality of film by the fact how many people are moved by it. People are moved by a lot of thing - often very stupid things. Substance has more standardized storytelling and Beau is too complicated for most of the people who arent able to find themes in Beau’s narative.
The film was absolutely brilliant. I would go as far as to put it in one of the top 10 films I’ve seen in the last 15 years. Absolutely remarkable and I cannot stop thinking about it!
Omg when Margaret and Demi looked at each other at the same time, same expression ( 3:58 ). Eerie given the context of the movie lol but wholesome in that you can tell they worked well together
I’m someone who can’t do gore. I pushed through and WOW it was worth it. Such an original amazing story, such a great performance by these two! Can’t wait to see more from Fargeat
Haha, she didn’t even get the point of the movie! When she says that the movie “didn’t judge” Elisabeth for chasing looks through The Substance… both the director and Demi Moore had to mildly correct her and say first, women do not have to pursue this tactic, and then Demi Moore points out that the character Elisabeth is worse to herself than any external force. And for me, the movie exerts the ultimate judgment on Elisabeth’s choices via the ending. I am finding that “feminists” with typical agendas are misreading this movie as simply a takedown of “the male gaze” or “Hollywood culture”, when it is far more focused on what goes on in the mind and psyche of a character like Elisabeth. Demi Moore actually gets it. The other elements, like the character Harry or the boyfriends or the “shareholders” are simply annoying distractions to Elisabeth. The real drama and the real war is between Elisabeth’s ears.
@@michaelgray5958YOU don't get her interpretation. What she meant was that people in the industry or Hollywood don't judge Elisabeth chasing for perfection because that's what they WANT her to do. They want her to be picture perfect to be bankable. But as with age, they deem her not as profitable as when she was young which leads to her pursuing the substance in the first place. So being "perfect" to her and the hollywood execs is being young and hot therefore, bankable.
@@heyyyeasy She said: "The movie also never judges Elizabeth for chasing those expectations, which I really appreciated." She wasn't talking about the characters in the film. The entire movie is about the horrors of chasing those expectations. The monster at the end of the film is the ultimate negative assessment of chasing those expectations.
@@michaelgray5958oh yeah, what happens inside of our heads after DECADES of hearing this message and being punished for not behaving as requested doesnt have anything to do with our internalized self hatred... Right... Feminists must be crazy...
Absolutely ASTOUNDING film, I can't wait to see what movies she makes next!! They all deserve the HYPE they're getting, this movie shook me to my core, and I haven't felt that way since Hereditary
Have you watched her first film? Revenge 2017 it's a shudder original another awesome female revenge movie definitely worth checking out if you haven't
Revenge is great! I knew I recognized the director's name but didn't realize it was the same filmmaker until after I saw The Substance. Julia Decournau is another great French filmmaker to look at if you haven't already.
@@MrBooone checkout the film Relic with Emily Mortimer from a few years ago. Another great example of a horror which seamlessly moves the metaphorical into the literal. Very moving climax and final shot. There's been a lot of great films in recent years, just takes much more effort and patience to seek them out nowadays.
Not only the director is a genius, but also the actresses and the interviewer. I really enjoy when people speak about interesting topics vividly and laughing 😄
After watching the movie for the first time, I spent hours reflecting (yes, this movie truly rents a penthouse in your mind). I was reflecting, trying to find another meaning beyond the common understanding of themes like aging and the beauty industry, which are indeed present in the film. The first thing I noticed (which initially seemed like a flaw but is actually another layer of reflection) is that Elizabeth is not present in Sue. She doesn’t rejuvenate by using the substance; she doesn’t live a perfect version of herself. Both Elizabeth and Sue are two distinct individuals. When I realized this, I thought of a potential logical flaw in the film: what woman would take a substance that would deform her body, leaving a huge scar, and ultimately not restore her youth, but instead create a “better” and younger being with its own consciousness? I paused for a few seconds, thinking about this logical flaw, glanced to the side, smiled slightly, and remembered all the mothers in this world. After that reflection, I realized that in the movie, Elizabeth “gives birth” to Sue, making her more of a “daughter” than a rejuvenated version of Elizabeth. When I rewatched the film through this new lens, I saw, for the first time, a non-romanticized (and yes, exaggerated) version of motherhood. The mother-daughter dynamic is evident in several moments: the metaphor of maternal sacrifice, the projection of insecurities and desires, and even the term “your better version,” often used by parents to refer to their children, as if pleading with the gods for a wish to be granted. Finally, Sue herself mentions during the interview that every other week, she has to take care of her mother. In the end, this movie was so well executed that it opens the door to various parallel or tangential interpretations, and that’s what enchanted me most about it.
Yes, the motherhood parallel is pretty evident, but I think you could look at it even more broadly - all women, not only mothers, lead the way for the younger generation (in professional field, in social rights, etc.), have to make sacrifices in the process, experience trauma, etc. We become older, less beautiful and less visible, perhaps, but still share our wisdom, our energy, so the young upcoming generation of women could thrive and be successful, because we all are one after all.
I'm not sure if it was intentional from Coralie's part, but I identified with the movie from the body dysmorphic disorder which I think I have had symptoms of since 11-12 yo, during the stage were one gets a little bit chubby to stretch for puberty and one of my cousins during christmas was mocking my belly and how "disgusting" I looked sideways and it made me completely conscious and aware of myself to the point I started spending time looking over the mirror and trying to use some terrible weighs to try to "lose weight" up until 14. This also made me aware that I was not as masculine looking as other boys my age (I was a late bloomer) so it made me hate my self image even more until I got into the gym at around 19 or 18 and the dysmorphia turned into muscular dysmorphia. I almost cried when watching Elisabeth bang her head saying "stop it, stop it" because this is how I feel after I indulge into dysmorphia, picking my face, analyzing my hair, my eyebags and tear wrinkles, looking at my body now after years of not going to the gym because of injuries and tendinitis trying to motivate me into at least exercising at my house with my own body weight. This movie was a whole trip about self acceptance I really enjoyed it broke my heart.
I appreciate and admire your sincere honesty. Its a journey for sure! Learning acceptance and not self-abandoning when you dont meet your inner critics' unrealistic expectations. Stop believing you're not good enough. You deserve to take up space. You're worthy and take action to appreciate, accept, and give compassion to yourself.
Reading your comment breaks my heart. I felt so similar watching this movie because of my own issues with body dysmorphia. It's so awful. I wish you healing ❤
That moment as a kid when something happens and you become super self-aware of how you look and how you scale in terms of societal values, and the almost crushing feeling of being in-adequate is tough. It legit changed my life, I haven't been able to exist in my body the same since. I hope you're doing better
I met a friend ( girl) last year in ''2023 .r. She was getting rid of some clothes and invited me over to go through and pick some lovely clothes pieces. She gave me a lovely coat . Anyway, I am average size,size 12 Australian. She was size 8 and tall. She said to me ,well we r the same size so you can have it. I tried to tell her it's too small for me, however she denied it. I still don't understand. I think she had similar problem like you. However, I don't really care what size I and if we want to loose weight so we can feel better that's ok. However, body's image is all how we feel. In Substance, haven't seen it yet, however I think a bit about Bridget Jones and how she didn't care much how she looked, although that's a bit different. Counseling and reading good books about our body image can help you maybe...
As a guy pushing 40, watching this interview while getting ads for Hims, I have nothing but complete love and appreciation for what this crew pulled off in The Substance. The same goes for the interview, outstanding work.
I love that she added the part that just because the movie touches the subject of self-love people don't need to feel obligated to love themselves right away or because the movies "says so", self-love is a different journey for each person
Body horror movie of the decade! Went to 2 showings now. The perfect blend of comedy/horror/wtf moments... Phenomenal use of quick cuts and gross out audio/closeups along solid performances.
I have not seen a film that made me feel so much emotion and shock that I put my hands over my mouth to gasp many times since i saw 'The Fly' as a 9 year old, I'm 43 now! Phenomenonal performances & so pleased Demi won the Golden Globe for best female actor! I can't stop talking about the film and recommending to everyone. Thank you for the art.
I really enjoyed this interview! It’s refreshing to hear from such intelligent and insightful women. Demi Moore, Margaret Qualley, and Coralie Fargeat brought thoughtful perspectives and engaging conversation to the table. Love listening to women who have so much depth and passion for their craft!
I’m so glad we have this film in exactly the way it was meant to be and Coralie wasn’t limited in her creative control because WOW this movie is incredible. Same as you Perrie, I walked out feeling so pumped up and excited by what an amazing piece of art it was
Yes and the fact it did so well means she will have even more freedom the next time AND other directors may have a chance to be more free in other countries like France, versus being forced to do their work in America with the restrictions.
Thank you Coralie, Demi Moore and Margaret for giving us this amazing WORK OF ART! I left the theater with so many emotions, everyone wanted to talk! So many emotions!! Thank you! Thank you! Very much needed movie!
Three brilliant fearless artists being interviewed. Everything about this movie can only be described as fearless. All the awards are deserved for this film
This movie is a pure masterpiece. It deserves Oscars all the way around. Sound, editing, performance, visuals....If they get a snub next year I'll be greatly saddened.
Phenomenal interview, and an incredible film. Always great to see such a passionate and knowledgeable interviewer, and so much respect for the actresses and the director, brilliant performance by all. Also was so impressed by the make up, set design, and the prosthetics. Really enjoyed and was impressed by this film. I definitely think it deserves some awards.
Just watched this in Lima. I shrieked, covered my eyes, covered my mouth and laughed all from start to finish. Powerful messages about the unnatural beauty standards women are measured by and extraordinary acting
“What other people do or don’t do is irrelevant, how we hold it is everything and that’s what creates our reality and our experience” - this really resonated with me, wise wise words Demi.
these three have a great chemistry together. definitely a result of successful collaboration between amazing actors and director. i was mesmerized by the cinematography directed by Coralie and i think she has the potential to beocme one of the best director in coming age
Not in my slightest doubt, THE most fascinating, iconic movie of 2024! Absolutely mind-blowing film!! Already watched this masterpiece in theatre 3x. Huge thumbs up for Coralie, Demi and Margaret for their amazing performance!!! Can't wait to see your guys' work on the screen again. - Love from a movie-lover in S.Korea -
Really needed this to remind myself that they are alive and that margaret isn't a horrible person like in the movie lmao the conversation around it is really much more important and I think this movie gets you talking after it's over and you start with what you've seen but what really stays is the message and you go deeper with it after you're done talking about special effects etc. at least that was my experience with it.
Absolute masterpiece! Every piece fit so well, it flowed so nicely! No feeling of dragging even though it was over 2 hours! every scene keep me in deep! If you haven’t seen it and you’re a horror fan, you HAVE to!!
She looks great for 61 but any woman over 40 and soon after mostly losses their innate attractiveness. Just nature and the way we are. Nothing wrong with it really. Many men go downhill too very soon after 45-50. Just that men don't tend, for the most par,t have the luxury of being so attractive or beautiful so so their physical attractiveness decline is less dramatic. In other species like birds, it is the male who is the pretty one! Us homo sapiens tend to have the female as being so much more pretty and decorative. Just with a much smaller window of time - prime fertility years.
@@dublintvcontent2023 Women don’t lose their "innate" attractiveness with age. There's so much more to an individual's attractiveness than how fertile they look lol. If you put all your self worth into things that are fleeting, you are setting yourself up for misery - that was the whole point of the film.
We are all so vain. It's gross. Old age and appearance is something honored and celebrated throughout the history of mankind. Trying to be fuckable in your 60s seems new to me. But maybe it's the evolution we are going through
it's the way you can immediately tell if a movie is directed by a man or a woman. nothing beats a woman's touch and attention to detail.. bravo Coralie Fargeat. I hope in the future world there are more women in power!!
I watched the movie 3 times and I'm still finding new things to say about it. It such a real reflection of society that it reveals things to me about all the ways I've been made to feel bad about myself and others
This movie rocks! I was smiling from ear to ear watching this movie in the theater because it was SSSSSOOOO GOOD! I cannot wait to buy it on blue ray! A masterpiece! I totally loved it.
Incredible work! Congratulations!! Hypnotic film. I hope for more works by women about women, the intensity, the honesty, the quality was a pleasure for my senses. I love the horror genre, but this film transcends the screen to remind us of the naturalized horror of the day to day that many women live.
Hats off to Demi for putting herself in such vulnerable positions to tell this story. I was shocked in the same way I was shocked when striptease came out. Gotta love her
Thanks for reminding me about The Substance. Honestly I only saw it recently and I can hardly remember it. I recall certain scenes, and I certainly loved the concept, but it doesn’t live in my heart the way you want movies to. I long to remember Sue’s story better. A LOT said about Quaid and the offensive eating, but - HELLO! - that was all sound design! It was just a close-up of his mouth, something we all see frequently. No food particles, no bad manners, no violent farting, just a very average, somewhat sinister guy eating and Coralie Fargeat smart enough to know the hidden value of sound. And an art called sound design. I dearly wish people had more to say about the story itself. 😢 Fargeat has deeply meaningful ideas about life and womanhood. This exchange underlines the insider nature of Hollywood. It makes stardom seem normal, like anyone can make a feature film…this year. Iconic iconic iconic.
"I don't blame anyone for still wanting to exist," that really hit me. The director is great.
That reminded me of the scene with the old man. As a man, I appreciate the fact that Fargeat acknowledged that self deprecation, insecurity and loneliness is not exclusively a female issue.
@@carl_anderson9315 - thats what i think makes this movie so profound. they figured out a way to SHOW how both males and females struggle with these expectations placed upon them.
People are judging demi for her beuaty procedures. That quote is amazing in the context
sue is played so so well, robotic and cold almost. like a poster come to life. the film was incredible
I hope Demi Moore gets an Oscar nomination
I thought she moved like a videogame character.
Sue scared the crap out of me
@@encheknizam I have always liked Demi Moore as an actress, ever since Ghost and G.I Jane. I always thought she was underrated.
Exactly, she gave me Dorian Gray's vibes. It's an evil other self. Maybe a portrayal of all of our personal demons eating away at us.
The interviewer did such a fantastic job! She was locked in and didn't even have to revisit her questions. You could tell she wanted to ask thoughtful questions and make them matter. Great job!!!!
The one and only Perri. She puts every talk show host to shame.
we love perri!!
She’s always like this! One of the best. ❤
She did so so well. Thought provoking questions and kept them going. I was gonna comment this and then saw someone had already.
One of the best movies ive seen in a long ass time
Is it that good
@@mikealan1984it’s brilliant
@@ekonamare7219 ima check it out then thanks
@@mikealan1984 yup!
Definitely the best this year, zero competition. What an experience!
The scene that freaked me out the most was Demi Moore's character, Elizabeth deciding to go to the alley, and crawl under the door into a dingy, trashy, tiny cement corridor. I thought, wow that's extreme desperation. Crazy, amazing!
That was tame compared to the ending scene lol sure it showed desperation but its normal thing that people feel about aging and especially how the character was sacked from her job I would understand that desperation if I was in her shoes.
THAT is the scene that freaked you out the most. Did you watch the film? That was the most tame part of the film
very thoughtful comment. a tragic moment. i think there is a deep deep well of sadness running beneath the grotesque and hypersexual in this film.
It's because she had this note, and USB slipped into her pocket. Then she watches the Substance promo, that is lacking in detail, and then she doesn't turn away when it's in a grimey cement passageway that could be a shooting gallery. I've seen pretty extreme body horror in Brian Yuzna's "Society" and I just watched Terrifier 3 today with gore on a level with Fulci's "Cat in the Brain", so I'm jaded on that stuff. If I was an attractive woman with a nice home and money, I wouldn't be crawling into any shooting gallery tunnel. That's what freaks me out.
yea i remember seeing that scene and thinking "wow, this is really some strong film making right there!"
The questions are so so so good, clap to the journalists
Just watched the movie and I'm completely overwhelmed with different emotions. The most horrible thing is how cruel and hateful we as women can be towards ourselves, food for thought
It that cruelty and hate comes from social conditioning. Check the source
@@Anonymous-xm8ir Well but at some point you have to stop pointing outside and take responsibility again. In my eyes as a hetero man for YEARS this war of beauty waged among women. I have yet to come across a man who loves botox faces and all that. And from my own aging perspective I find young women less and less attractive and love how we all age, no matter if woman or man. I agree that societal conditioning is the source of it, but we have overcome that part and to uncondition women have to start banding together in "being natural" again.
Thank you. Demi Moore hit it on the head when she talked about how Elizabeth was the most violent to herself then the outside world. Also in the movie Elizabeth begins hating Sue because she’s young and looks better. Im glad you took away one if the most important points because many women are not getting it, they only see and think one thing which is men only are the villains and only care about age and looks and are extremely mean and are ruining the entire world.
@@DioHarder ...
@@bcali7343Well, men do run the world... And they really do care about women's looks and age 😅 If it wasn't like that, then women wouldn't act so desperate in an attempt to get men's attention and wouldn't bother with the cosmetic and surgical procedures in the first place. Because, I'm afraid, from men's perspective "love" for women equals sexual attraction for women. For a man, a woman is just a trophy, a possession(like a car) and a beautiful piece of meat until it's not "fresh" anymore, most of the time.
That's precisely why women need to wake up and stop hating themselves and other women. It's a vicious circle in a world created by men and run by men where everything is being done in men's best interests.
This woman made `Revenge` and now `The Substance´ and she dumped all over most recent male horror directors who have been trying and trying with many movies and never could pull it off.
She is an instant horror legend.
Why must you say “dump all over most recent male horror directors”? Why can’t we just agree that she made a phenomenal horror film? Women and men need to come together and stop trying to one up each other and instead focus solely on making great films like this one.
@@therealfilmenthusiast That's a nice, idealistic sentiment but not my point.
I'm trying to celebrate a woman for making great horror movies in a world where it's all about males. Get that?
@@jasp19 I understand your point and I agree that we should celebrate this film and the director, however I feel that saying “dumped all over male directors” isn’t a very wise statement to promote or celebrate this director and film. Some men may feel singled out by it and not support it. I do understand your point though 🤙🏻
Men and women are both humans, and we can all create great art pieces, sometimes we are just restricted by society or times. It's more about talented people, not talented genders. Brought up everything with gender it's a step back towards cinema or any kind of artwork. Because we are not the most important things, the craft we made is, or at least our mind is more important, we don't want to limit ourselves by competing who is the better gender, it is a pointless also a endless conversation, just be respectful.
@@jasp19 sir, do you have a beef with male horror directors or something? what’s your problem?
Demi, Margaret and Coralie all deserve an Oscar nominations for their performances and directing. This movie is phenomenal.
FUCKING BRILLIANT! The most unsettling, beautiful piece of art in YEARS! Thank you!
Film is great but did you watch Beau is Afraid?
@@vicclein Well, I have now... and yes... yes indeed... Cooked AF - in the best way possible. But, the ending? Also brings new meaning to "monster co*k". Thank you.
Two actresses done a good job but the movie was pretty boring and silly, awful towards the tedious ending. Had the feeling of potentially being a good movie but went astray and absurdly bad in more parts than it was good.
The lady in the middle is a pretentious moron sorry to mention. it is just my reaction to this video. Talking a lot of utter nonsense .
Demi makes much more sense. It could have been an interesting and even clever creation, but sadly, it just wasn't!
Kudos to the two actresses who done well with what they had to work with. Dull, disappointing borderline depressing.
@@vicclein I found this movie to significantly better than "Beau is Afraid" and infinitely more entertaining. Where as "Beau is Afraid" captures a certain audience in a relatable way, "The Substance" has proven to move almost every one who sees it in a relatable way.
@@pegacorn13 I dont measure quality of film by the fact how many people are moved by it. People are moved by a lot of thing - often very stupid things. Substance has more standardized storytelling and Beau is too complicated for most of the people who arent able to find themes in Beau’s narative.
Demi winking an eye at Margaret at 3:10 felt soo cute you can tell the chemistry that happened between those two in this marvelous piece of work ❤
good catch. Also check out @3:55
@@TheStarryNightLifelove it!!
The film was absolutely brilliant. I would go as far as to put it in one of the top 10 films I’ve seen in the last 15 years. Absolutely remarkable and I cannot stop thinking about it!
Absolutely!! 👏👏👏
Not since Pulp Fiction has a film captured my imagination. Congrats to Demi and all involved.
cant stop thinking about it even days weeks after iv seen the movie.. i agree
That was harder to watch than any Saw movie.
I haven't felt this way since Requiem for a Dream
It had huge Requiem vibes for sure....
❤ comment.....This felt like saw+requiem+mullhilland drive.
Saw? What the hell are y'all talking about? Are you sure you watched The Substance?
@@pathogensmusick it's not about the gore it's about the way it made me feel inside
@@pathogensmusick Set.Use of a heavily white tiled bathroom.
Omg when Margaret and Demi looked at each other at the same time, same expression ( 3:58 ). Eerie given the context of the movie lol but wholesome in that you can tell they worked well together
I’m someone who can’t do gore. I pushed through and WOW it was worth it. Such an original amazing story, such a great performance by these two! Can’t wait to see more from Fargeat
Literally sooooo sick to my stomach and I almost left like 4 times but I’m so glad I stuck through it!!!!
What an incredible interviewer. She’s an expert
I loved her too!!
Haha, she didn’t even get the point of the movie! When she says that the movie “didn’t judge” Elisabeth for chasing looks through The Substance… both the director and Demi Moore had to mildly correct her and say first, women do not have to pursue this tactic, and then Demi Moore points out that the character Elisabeth is worse to herself than any external force. And for me, the movie exerts the ultimate judgment on Elisabeth’s choices via the ending. I am finding that “feminists” with typical agendas are misreading this movie as simply a takedown of “the male gaze” or “Hollywood culture”, when it is far more focused on what goes on in the mind and psyche of a character like Elisabeth. Demi Moore actually gets it. The other elements, like the character Harry or the boyfriends or the “shareholders” are simply annoying distractions to Elisabeth. The real drama and the real war is between Elisabeth’s ears.
@@michaelgray5958YOU don't get her interpretation.
What she meant was that people in the industry or Hollywood don't judge Elisabeth chasing for perfection because that's what they WANT her to do. They want her to be picture perfect to be bankable.
But as with age, they deem her not as profitable as when she was young which leads to her pursuing the substance in the first place.
So being "perfect" to her and the hollywood execs is being young and hot therefore, bankable.
@@heyyyeasy She said: "The movie also never judges Elizabeth for chasing those expectations, which I really appreciated."
She wasn't talking about the characters in the film. The entire movie is about the horrors of chasing those expectations. The monster at the end of the film is the ultimate negative assessment of chasing those expectations.
@@michaelgray5958oh yeah, what happens inside of our heads after DECADES of hearing this message and being punished for not behaving as requested doesnt have anything to do with our internalized self hatred... Right... Feminists must be crazy...
Absolutely ASTOUNDING film, I can't wait to see what movies she makes next!! They all deserve the HYPE they're getting, this movie shook me to my core, and I haven't felt that way since Hereditary
Have you watched her first film? Revenge 2017 it's a shudder original another awesome female revenge movie definitely worth checking out if you haven't
Revenge is great! I knew I recognized the director's name but didn't realize it was the same filmmaker until after I saw The Substance. Julia Decournau is another great French filmmaker to look at if you haven't already.
@@brentulstad3275 yessssss love both raw and titane.....awesome films
@@MrBooone checkout the film Relic with Emily Mortimer from a few years ago. Another great example of a horror which seamlessly moves the metaphorical into the literal. Very moving climax and final shot. There's been a lot of great films in recent years, just takes much more effort and patience to seek them out nowadays.
Absolutely agree with you! It made me speechless in the most amazing way, I didn’t felt like this since Hereditary in 2018! Just BRAVO!!
Not only the director is a genius, but also the actresses and the interviewer. I really enjoy when people speak about interesting topics vividly and laughing 😄
After watching the movie for the first time, I spent hours reflecting (yes, this movie truly rents a penthouse in your mind). I was reflecting, trying to find another meaning beyond the common understanding of themes like aging and the beauty industry, which are indeed present in the film.
The first thing I noticed (which initially seemed like a flaw but is actually another layer of reflection) is that Elizabeth is not present in Sue. She doesn’t rejuvenate by using the substance; she doesn’t live a perfect version of herself. Both Elizabeth and Sue are two distinct individuals.
When I realized this, I thought of a potential logical flaw in the film: what woman would take a substance that would deform her body, leaving a huge scar, and ultimately not restore her youth, but instead create a “better” and younger being with its own consciousness?
I paused for a few seconds, thinking about this logical flaw, glanced to the side, smiled slightly, and remembered all the mothers in this world.
After that reflection, I realized that in the movie, Elizabeth “gives birth” to Sue, making her more of a “daughter” than a rejuvenated version of Elizabeth.
When I rewatched the film through this new lens, I saw, for the first time, a non-romanticized (and yes, exaggerated) version of motherhood. The mother-daughter dynamic is evident in several moments: the metaphor of maternal sacrifice, the projection of insecurities and desires, and even the term “your better version,” often used by parents to refer to their children, as if pleading with the gods for a wish to be granted. Finally, Sue herself mentions during the interview that every other week, she has to take care of her mother.
In the end, this movie was so well executed that it opens the door to various parallel or tangential interpretations, and that’s what enchanted me most about it.
Yes, the motherhood parallel is pretty evident, but I think you could look at it even more broadly - all women, not only mothers, lead the way for the younger generation (in professional field, in social rights, etc.), have to make sacrifices in the process, experience trauma, etc. We become older, less beautiful and less visible, perhaps, but still share our wisdom, our energy, so the young upcoming generation of women could thrive and be successful, because we all are one after all.
See I was thinking that too, but for some reason I thought maybe they had a shared consciousness for a bit,then it began to separate?
I'm not sure if it was intentional from Coralie's part, but I identified with the movie from the body dysmorphic disorder which I think I have had symptoms of since 11-12 yo, during the stage were one gets a little bit chubby to stretch for puberty and one of my cousins during christmas was mocking my belly and how "disgusting" I looked sideways and it made me completely conscious and aware of myself to the point I started spending time looking over the mirror and trying to use some terrible weighs to try to "lose weight" up until 14.
This also made me aware that I was not as masculine looking as other boys my age (I was a late bloomer) so it made me hate my self image even more until I got into the gym at around 19 or 18 and the dysmorphia turned into muscular dysmorphia.
I almost cried when watching Elisabeth bang her head saying "stop it, stop it" because this is how I feel after I indulge into dysmorphia, picking my face, analyzing my hair, my eyebags and tear wrinkles, looking at my body now after years of not going to the gym because of injuries and tendinitis trying to motivate me into at least exercising at my house with my own body weight. This movie was a whole trip about self acceptance I really enjoyed it broke my heart.
You sound like a lovely person and nobody can take that away for you. Physical appearance is ephemeral however our true essence is evergreen ❤❤
I appreciate and admire your sincere honesty. Its a journey for sure! Learning acceptance and not self-abandoning when you dont meet your inner critics' unrealistic expectations. Stop believing you're not good enough. You deserve to take up space. You're worthy and take action to appreciate, accept, and give compassion to yourself.
Reading your comment breaks my heart. I felt so similar watching this movie because of my own issues with body dysmorphia. It's so awful. I wish you healing ❤
That moment as a kid when something happens and you become super self-aware of how you look and how you scale in terms of societal values, and the almost crushing feeling of being in-adequate is tough. It legit changed my life, I haven't been able to exist in my body the same since. I hope you're doing better
I met a friend ( girl) last year in ''2023 .r. She was getting rid of some clothes and invited me over to go through and pick some lovely clothes pieces. She gave me a lovely coat . Anyway, I am average size,size 12 Australian. She was size 8 and tall. She said to me ,well we r the same size so you can have it. I tried to tell her it's too small for me, however she denied it. I still don't understand. I think she had similar problem like you.
However, I don't really care what size I and if we want to loose weight so we can feel better that's ok. However, body's image is all how we feel.
In Substance, haven't seen it yet, however I think a bit about Bridget Jones and how she didn't care much how she looked, although that's a bit different.
Counseling and reading good books about our body image can help you maybe...
What a talented woman they are! All of them, and the interviewer also excellent!!
Coralie just keep making movies without restrictions you're in insane in the best ways. I love your instincts.
As a guy pushing 40, watching this interview while getting ads for Hims, I have nothing but complete love and appreciation for what this crew pulled off in The Substance.
The same goes for the interview, outstanding work.
This interview was PHENOMENAL omg
Truly! Great questions that brought out so much from the three artists. I loved the movie so much, and I admire these three so much
yeah she def did her homework
This is the exact kind of interview I was looking for. Your questions are so engaging and interesting. THANK YOU. Great job and phenomenal film.
Kuddos to the excellent interviewer; you did your homework, you asked the important questions and made everyone comfortable!
This director is absolutely brilliant. The story, symbolism, and filmmaking is incredible here. Cant wait for her next film! 10/10
THE SUBSTANCE IS A MASTERPIECE.
No it isn't, by A mile, though you can see the potential that could have been at least a good movie or even a great movie. was there. IF ONLY!
Oscar's for this film will be monumental !
The chemistry between Margaret and Demi is so cute! Its clear they have had a deep bond while making this movie 🥰❤️
I love that she added the part that just because the movie touches the subject of self-love people don't need to feel obligated to love themselves right away or because the movies "says so", self-love is a different journey for each person
I ADORE this French writer-director. Damn. What an artist. Looking forward to more good things from her in the future!
Body horror movie of the decade! Went to 2 showings now. The perfect blend of comedy/horror/wtf moments... Phenomenal use of quick cuts and gross out audio/closeups along solid performances.
Crimes of the future still holds first place for me.
Demi is stunning then and now
Ohh pun intended? She was in the movie Now and Then 😂
@@Foolish_huanI thought the same thing!!!
Then. Not now. She's ancient now.
definitely
She has a beautiful voice.
I have not seen a film that made me feel so much emotion and shock that I put my hands over my mouth to gasp many times since i saw 'The Fly' as a 9 year old, I'm 43 now! Phenomenonal performances & so pleased Demi won the Golden Globe for best female actor! I can't stop talking about the film and recommending to everyone. Thank you for the art.
I really enjoyed this interview! It’s refreshing to hear from such intelligent and insightful women. Demi Moore, Margaret Qualley, and Coralie Fargeat brought thoughtful perspectives and engaging conversation to the table. Love listening to women who have so much depth and passion for their craft!
Great interviewer! I loved that she also shared an uncomfortable story from her own experience before asking them about theirs.
I have so much praise for this interviewer, I was so drawn in by her questions.
Brilliant interview! I felt so proud of Perri 😊 and I could listen to them speak about this film and experiences all day
I love this " The Substance" best movie in years. Masterpiece! It's gripping. Congratulations to All. Great movie.
I’m so glad we have this film in exactly the way it was meant to be and Coralie wasn’t limited in her creative control because WOW this movie is incredible. Same as you Perrie, I walked out feeling so pumped up and excited by what an amazing piece of art it was
Yes and the fact it did so well means she will have even more freedom the next time AND other directors may have a chance to be more free in other countries like France, versus being forced to do their work in America with the restrictions.
Thank you Coralie, Demi Moore and Margaret for giving us this amazing WORK OF ART! I left the theater with so many emotions, everyone wanted to talk! So many emotions!! Thank you! Thank you! Very much needed movie!
Wow, Margaret Qualley’s mom Andie MacDowell and Demi Moore were in St Elmo’s fire .. time flies
Couldn’t see the resemblance. Just wow!
Oh I didn't know that!....I can see the resemblance now lol
Three brilliant fearless artists being interviewed. Everything about this movie can only be described as fearless. All the awards are deserved for this film
A big aplause to a wonderful interview and fantastic interviewee. Great questions, great atmosphere you create. Thanks! :)
This movie is a pure masterpiece. It deserves Oscars all the way around. Sound, editing, performance, visuals....If they get a snub next year I'll be greatly saddened.
omg i needed to hear this. this movie hasn’t left me since i saw it last week. too brilliant
Everyone involved in this movie just fully committed to it, and it shows.
I can't wait to see what Coralie Fargeat does next. This movie and it's execution was incredible.
What a fantastic interviewer, what intelligent, fascinating women. Women are so amazing!
i cannot get over this movie. just incredible in every way. 10/10.
4 extremely smart woman talking about a FANTASTIC film. Thanks for the insight, subscribed.
OBSESSED with this film…has become one of my instant fave dark comedy horrors of all time! Thank you ladies 🖤
Phenomenal interview, and an incredible film. Always great to see such a passionate and knowledgeable interviewer, and so much respect for the actresses and the director, brilliant performance by all. Also was so impressed by the make up, set design, and the prosthetics. Really enjoyed and was impressed by this film. I definitely think it deserves some awards.
Just watched this in Lima. I shrieked, covered my eyes, covered my mouth and laughed all from start to finish. Powerful messages about the unnatural beauty standards women are measured by and extraordinary acting
“What other people do or don’t do is irrelevant, how we hold it is everything and that’s what creates our reality and our experience” - this really resonated with me, wise wise words Demi.
Congrats to Perri Nemiroff for this amazing interview!
Wow you are a really good interviewer. I just wanted to say that. Such interesting and phenomenal questions!
Awesome interviewer! Thoughtful, intelligent questions. Actors must get so tired sometimes of the same old boring, lame questions.
these three have a great chemistry together. definitely a result of successful collaboration between amazing actors and director. i was mesmerized by the cinematography directed by Coralie and i think she has the potential to beocme one of the best director in coming age
What a movie... Demi was mesmerizing!
Not in my slightest doubt, THE most fascinating, iconic movie of 2024! Absolutely mind-blowing film!! Already watched this masterpiece in theatre 3x. Huge thumbs up for Coralie, Demi and Margaret for their amazing performance!!! Can't wait to see your guys' work on the screen again.
- Love from a movie-lover in S.Korea -
Loved the movie and this interview was amazing!
Really needed this to remind myself that they are alive and that margaret isn't a horrible person like in the movie lmao the conversation around it is really much more important and I think this movie gets you talking after it's over and you start with what you've seen but what really stays is the message and you go deeper with it after you're done talking about special effects etc. at least that was my experience with it.
Perri so awesome you are doing this interview. What better gal to do it than someone who is genuinely passionate. Good job pal ❤
there are now multiple videos of Moore and Qualley laughing together on the Internet💗💗
I like when they break out laughing. When I saw the movie I had to laugh at times in the 2nd half because it was extremely shocking.
Absolute masterpiece! Every piece fit so well, it flowed so nicely! No feeling of dragging even though it was over 2 hours! every scene keep me in deep! If you haven’t seen it and you’re a horror fan, you HAVE to!!
What a wholesome interview 💜
Demi moore is playing a 49-50 yo woman but shes actually 61 🤯
She looks great for 61 but any woman over 40 and soon after mostly losses their innate attractiveness. Just nature and the way we are. Nothing wrong with it really.
Many men go downhill too very soon after 45-50. Just that men don't tend, for the most par,t have the luxury of being so attractive or beautiful so so their physical attractiveness decline is less dramatic.
In other species like birds, it is the male who is the pretty one! Us homo sapiens tend to have the female as being so much more pretty and decorative. Just with a much smaller window of time - prime fertility years.
@@dublintvcontent2023 Women don’t lose their "innate" attractiveness with age. There's so much more to an individual's attractiveness than how fertile they look lol. If you put all your self worth into things that are fleeting, you are setting yourself up for misery - that was the whole point of the film.
But thanks to surgeons she doesn't look 61.
She looks incredible!
We are all so vain. It's gross. Old age and appearance is something honored and celebrated throughout the history of mankind. Trying to be fuckable in your 60s seems new to me. But maybe it's the evolution we are going through
it's the way you can immediately tell if a movie is directed by a man or a woman. nothing beats a woman's touch and attention to detail.. bravo Coralie Fargeat. I hope in the future world there are more women in power!!
What a great interviewer ... just watched the movie then saw this fantastic interview, loved the questions. And the movie is incredible!
Such a nice and empowering energy in the room!
Perry is killing it out here. Been watching since the early Collider days. I see you everytime I sit down at the theater. Haha
The Substance......WOAHHHH WHAT A MOVIE!!! 10 OUT OF 10.....BEST MOVIE OF 2024 HANDS DOWN & BEST MOVIE IVE SEEN IN A CINEMA SINCE HEREDITARY
My exact thoughts, hadn’t been that shook up in a theatre since Hereditary. We’re on the same wavelength ❤
I watched the movie 3 times and I'm still finding new things to say about it. It such a real reflection of society that it reveals things to me about all the ways I've been made to feel bad about myself and others
I'm gonna get so frustrated if this film gets snubbed by the Academy...it deserves all the recognition it can get.
My favorite movie I’ve seen this year, Margaret is amazing and Demi still has it, It was The thing, The fly and a Steven King story all in one.
Loved the movie, favorite of the year! Great performances. I can't wait to see what comes next from the director. Also, it was a great interview
Perri is such a great interviewer!
Obsessed with this movie. Saw it twice already!
And what a great interview! Brilliant questions actually 👏
Saw this yesterday. Man on man o man. Best movie this year. From the opening to the last shot a blast. Go see it on the big screen. Movie of the year.
great interview thanks :)
This movie rocks! I was smiling from ear to ear watching this movie in the theater because it was SSSSSOOOO GOOD! I cannot wait to buy it on blue ray! A masterpiece! I totally loved it.
Perri just gave us an f good interview, beeing funny and talking about serious things in the same subjects. I could watch more 1h of this!!!!
Incredible work! Congratulations!! Hypnotic film. I hope for more works by women about women, the intensity, the honesty, the quality was a pleasure for my senses. I love the horror genre, but this film transcends the screen to remind us of the naturalized horror of the day to day that many women live.
This is my favorite movie of the year!!!!!
This movie was so great I needed to hear what the director had to say
Hats off to Demi for putting herself in such vulnerable positions to tell this story. I was shocked in the same way I was shocked when striptease came out. Gotta love her
Phenomenal body horror film, coupled with a fantastic interview. Simply wonderful.
What a terrific interview!!
Margaret Qualley is just so utterly charming, always happy to see her pop up in these interesting projects
Thanks for reminding me about The Substance. Honestly I only saw it recently and I can hardly remember it. I recall certain scenes, and I certainly loved the concept, but it doesn’t live in my heart the way you want movies to. I long to remember Sue’s story better. A LOT said about Quaid and the offensive eating, but - HELLO! - that was all sound design! It was just a close-up of his mouth, something we all see frequently. No food particles, no bad manners, no violent farting, just a very average, somewhat sinister guy eating and Coralie Fargeat smart enough to know the hidden value of sound. And an art called sound design. I dearly wish people had more to say about the story itself. 😢 Fargeat has deeply meaningful ideas about life and womanhood. This exchange underlines the insider nature of Hollywood. It makes stardom seem normal, like anyone can make a feature film…this year.
Iconic iconic iconic.
Great interviewer and interview! Nicely done.
Wonderful interview!
she is a great interviewer. should start her own podcast
Funny you should say that -- she's got a whole interview series!
Check out Collider Ladies Night right here: www.youtube.com/@ColliderLadiesNight
Perri, you're my favorite interviewer of all time.
Great questions from the interviewer. I especially liked the dos and donts of using heavy prosthetics question.
such an amazing movie, I've seen it twice because I watched it through my fingers the first time.
Absolutely love this film. Great interview Perri!
I can't wait to see this one. It seems like it hits on all angles.