Like you said the thing, even if it infected a face hugger, would at some point encounter the the true agent of infection of a face hugger rather than the biological delivery system that makes up the face hugger so perhaps it would not be wise to infect a face hugger back at the risk of becoming counter infected also there is the issue of the highly corrosive blood of aliens it is not clear to me that a things organic make up could withstand that in the same way that the aliens own molocular make up is able to which could in theory also make the face hugger immune to the things infection attempts it may be that if these two faced off it would result in nothing but a draw assuming the thing could not infect aliens bc of the corrosive blood and like you said the face hugger could never properly infect the thing with its mechanisms of infection so in theory you could have a really interesting and long drawn out battle between these creatures where they might eventually simply just coexist developing an instinct to ignore each as predator or prey if they inhabited the same environment for a sufficient perior of time it could make an interesting story if it was done right maybe humans show up and find them fighting each other at first while humans just observe, but then they cooperate by deliberately forming the hybrid species so that they can defeat the human's safe observation methods
Under the old logic of the Facehugger just implanting an embryo then the Thing would just assimilate the embryo and nothing would end up happening outside of the Thing gaining Alien DNA. The Thing might also just end up assimilating the Facehugger if it latches on, and then you'd end up with a terrible mutant Facehugger Thing. There's also an alternative third option, it's shown in a few of the comics that Facehuggers tend to avoid hosts with diseases/genetic conditions. I'd probably imagine that the Facehugger might realize something is up with the disguised Thing and just nope on out of there, not bothering to interact with it at all.
@@William_afton169 It could but wouldn;t even need to. A single cell of the Thing can replace an entire organism, it could just touch someone and in hours it'd be over or just expell smaller organisms from itself to spread around and assimilate senselessly.
@@grizzlymelon8376 It probably is more complicated than that. Otherwise it would never need to transform. All it would need to do is poke people in disguise and nobody would be the wiser.
@@igm4326 There's SOMEWHAT an explanation for this. The thing's intelligence seems to scale with size + complexity of the organism they're mimicking. At its smallest level, cellular, it's reduced to a primal state that has no concept of self-sacrifice or grand strategy. This is why the blood test works; it exploits the isolated blood sample's lack of higher intelligence and inability to be controlled. The Thing was in a weakened state when it was first 'discovered,' so this strategy of biding time and waiting patiently was somewhat thrown out the window when the humans become aware of its existence before it could infect everyone. So, we know that: A. it's likely that 'transformation' from a minor infection to its final stages will take hours, maybe even a day. B. rapid transformation requires more aggressive means of infection, which requires transformation. C. cold temperatures in the context of the movie seemed to inhibit its infection vectors, or at least, there must be *some* reason it didn't just infest the vents and disperse aerosolized infection into the atmosphere. D. The thing in the movie was on a time limit, and did not have the luxury of concealment. It was already 'discovered' and unable to play the long con by the time it had the mass, and assimilated intelligence to start conning its prey. F. The thing does not operate on a hivemind, and separate Thing entities seem to be almost adversarial, willing to sacrifice other Thing entities but never themselves. These thing entities also may not be intelligence enough to 'conceal' if they are small enough. In the movie, you'll notice that the thing *only* transforms in two scenarios: A. when it believes it has physical superiority and can easily overpower its prey, or B. it is cornered. It needed to transform because the humans pressured it to. It was also on a time limit, and the humans took aggressive action like testing, while the cold inhibited its growth. It's very likely that, yes, a Thing in a warm environment with ample infection vectors and no containment would.. Just spread to anything, and everything. Rapidly. Likely without even changing, as it could contaminate food, water, soil, and just about everything in-between, while being impossible to remove from the environment. The Thing is also hungry.. It's pretty clear that although there is a superior strategy, it can't help itself. At the human-size, the Thing is still beholden to instinct and just can't help but feed when it sees an opportunity, even if the optimal strategy is to wait and slowly assimilate.
It depends on how well the Thing supercell can withstand the acid blood of the facehugger. If it can’t, then it won’t be able to completely assimilate the facehugger and would be forced to expel it. If it can, then the Thing would potentially gain access to whatever hivemind the Xeno species has. However, the Thing is vulnerable to fire, which the Xeno’s are more resistant to. For this reason, I do not believe the Thing would have any resistance to the Xeno’s acid. I believe the acid would destroy the Thing supercells before they could assimilate the Xeno cells. As a result, the Thing would be forced to expel any facehugger or xenomorph it came into contact with. The Xeno’s certainly wouldn’t be able to kill or infect the Thing either, not without intentionally slaughtering themselves to form a pool of their acid blood to completely dissolve it in.
@ Except for when it doesn’t and it runs off before any significant damage any done. edit: also why is the @ broken? Your username was there when I hit post.
The reason the thing is not resistent to fire is because most animals aren't , it will assimilate the most basic cells of the xeno and then will be capable to produce the caparace the xenos have.
@@OOTurokthose were super powerful pulse rifles. Xenomorphs are somewhat resistant to fire but still hate extreme temperatures. With continued exposure, they can begin to withstand fire longer as shown in Alien: Isolation
@watchinglearner Problem with that logic is the black goo responsible for the xenomorphy seem to be intelligently designed nanobots created by the Engineers thay reassemble DNA and are synthetic in origin. I wager you get a xeno thing hybrid.
The blob would devour the thing because it’s nothing but moving acid pretty much. Even if the thing tries to adapt to it every cell in its body would melt.
There's a theory somewhere online that states The Blob was created to eliminate The Thing. Originally, it came on a meteorite, possibly sent there as a biological weapon to counter The Thing. With many Blob's being sent to planets where The Thing may be present, one planet being Earth.
@ that’s not a bad theory and honestly it is the perfect counter to the thing for two main reasons. The things primary goal is to both assimilate and survive no matter what. So if it was ever in danger it’ll either run or attack especially when it comes to heat or acid. The blob is literal acid moving about so any of the things cell comes near the blob it’ll run. The only actual way I can see the thing winning is if it gets ice or something to freeze the blob like the 80s movie. However the issue is the thing has to assimilate a person who’s knowable enough to counter the blob, while also trying to stay hidden amongst people.
Funny it's just a few hours ago I wrote in another video, "Funny that alien also means disturbingly different and we still call the thing, just the thing"
While the thing is a alien it shifts into something more recognizable so its more apt to call it the thing instead of a alien of some kind even though technically speaking IT IS alien but it's more compatible with you and your body than even your own mother or father are.
But it's a silicon based lifeform so maybe not u got to remember silicon is very different to carbon and the thing is carbon based so for all we know the alien is immune to infection with is one reason why the alien can go to any world and not worry about infections from the worlds they are on also the immune system of there hosts doesn't react to them more than likely id imagine the thing would wanna stay away from the alien I think romanokes even talks about the things immune system and that the host they try to assimilate immune system do infact try to fight back so the alien having an extremely strong immune system might be immune
@@MisterPuck only so much acid. Contrary to movie land acid can only react with equal volume matter. Human sized thing equals an absorbed facehugger. Cat sized……. Maybe not.
@@mikewaterfield3599 Except they both live in magic movie land, so the acid might do more damage than you’re thinking. But even in your case, the Thing would also have to choose to endure the acid until it burned out, which is not usually what it chooses to do. It would more likely expel the facehugger and split off the parts being dissolved before running off.
@@MisterPuckBeing as the Thing also copies. It would also gain the Face Huggers ability to resist acid. The Face Huggers don't spray acid. They plant an egg. An egg that would get absorbed.
Guess it depends heavily on if the thing is compatible with silicone based lifeforms, an then you get the messy who overrides who, still a interesting thought experiment regardless.
The Xenomorphs in Aliens are Silicon based to survive and to carry and preserve the black goo, so if they meet the Thing from Thing, the Thing can't infect it because the Xenomorphs is made of flint, not coal and there is a chance the Thing can be infected by the Black goo.
Xeno's still have DNA and RNA, and the thing is actually a sub-cellular lifeform. We know this because of how it behaves. It infects virtually on contact, and essentially controls cells on touch, likely through DNA and RNA tricks. For example, we see the thing literally meld with a guy on contact. At that point it doesn't matter if the xeno is silicon based, the thing will still be able to co-opt its cells. The thing also likely uses DNA to physically alter cells on the microscopic level, which explains how it can meld cells together soo quickly. You can picture the cells growing tendrils, which can then use tricks to bond cells together, the same traits that bonds cells together naturally, it just does that function at will. So the xeno cells simply have no defense against the thing. The acid blood would melt the thing for sure, but as soon as even one thing cell gets on a xenomorph, it's over, the xenomorph will eventually become a thing as it takes over more and more cells in the xenomorph. This means the xenomorph's only chance is to avoid the thing altogether. But since the xenomorph is purely a physical attacking entity, it would naturally attack the thing....the problem is, even slashing at the thing, even if it does damage, will result in thing cells on it. Same with every mode of attack. Essentially the only way you can attack the thing and not get infected, is if it's with a tool made of a physical material like metal.
@@ArmandoEnfectana-bp6jo What does it matter that the Alien is covered in silicone? On the one hand, strictly nothing says that the thing cannot copy it and on the other hand, nothing says that this silicone has exactly the same properties and structure as the one we know. It is exactly the same thing between our synthetic rubber and natural rubber. This silicone remains produced by a living organism. It is hardly more different than ivory which is partly mineral but which the thing imitates without any worries and therefore can just as logically be able to assimilate "organic" silicone. Then if it were up to that, the thing would go through all the ports it can slip through and nothing prevents it from creating its own ports to rush into. The acid will burn it a few seconds before assimilation integrates the adequate immunity. Even the black liquid (which is a total aberration in the Alien's reproduction cycle) can't do anything. It will simply infect a small part of the thing's cells while the rest of the cells have time to copy the dark matter and the latter stops attacking it before being assimilated itself. We must not forget that the dark matter has strictly no intelligence or particular instinct. It does what it can do with what it has without any creative spirit behind it. These metamorphoses are therefore totally predictable depending on the host to which it is exposed to the very very big difference of the thing which will be capable of creating something totally different even if it assimilates 2 totally identical clones, and above all, of doing it in a premeditated manner.
Somthing that was on my chest for years now is that if The Facehugger succeeded in impregnating The Thing then the Xenomorph itself wouldn’t get infected BUT it would have the shapeshifting abilities of the thing and even able to spread the disease.
@ I’m deadass. Think about it. If the Thing can’t copy teeth filling how the f*ck can they assimilate a Xeno? They’re whole bodies and DNA have silicone. It’s totally possible.
@ No. What did I just say. The Xenomorphs…ARE INORGANIC! They’re whole body’s and genome is silicone based. That’s probably why they never get sick in any world they’re in. The Thing can’t even copy tooth fillings. Explain how it’s gonna assimilate a Xeno?
I always called facehuggers "flesh crabs with a scorpion tail" when i was younger, because i never knew its name. But i freaking love angry raw chicken spider.
Nothing. The Thing would absorb the face hugger's genome. Considering it can change it's biology and structure at a whim and the Facehugger can not.... The Thing could just not have an opening for the facehugger to plunge it's ovapositor in.
My take is: Since the facehugger attack only creates an embryo in an otherwise unaffected body, that same would happen in the thing's body, a xenomorph embryo that would swiftly get absorbed.
That's what I thought too. I figured, y'know, the facehugger implants an embryo into an infected host, whose Thing cells swiftly begin assimilating the embryo's biomass. I don't think it would ever get to the point where it would become a full xenomorph. At best, you're looking at another piece of The Thing that'll just slither away if the host body ever gets destroyed, like that guy's head in the movie. And likely, the facehugger, itself, would be assimilated too, since they need to stick around a while to keep their victims breathing and all.
Facehuggers and xenomorphs are pretty much useless against the thing. You can't really mutate something that's already as mutable as the thing. Even the acid blood of xenomorphs is only going to be an impediment to it until the thing starts absorbing a xenomorph and gains the knowledge of how to prevent itself from being harmed by that acid. You have to remember that the thing is a supercell organism, which means that it becomes smarter the more biomass it absorbs and, unlike xenomorphs, the thing is not limited to larger animals when it comes to what it utilizes. Anything it comes into contact with that's organic, whether it be trees, blades of grass, or even bacteria, becomes food for it. You could have an entire world that has been overrun with xenomorphs, drop a couple cells from the thing on that planet, and it's only a matter of time before there's no more xenomorphs there.
Don't know too much about necromophs but arent they just a mass of dead flesh being controlled by the marker, then the Brethren Moons? So maybe the thing couldn't effected it since it'll need living material
@@ODST_RepublicI don't think there's any restriction given for assimilating living vs dead material. The problem for the Thing is assimilating a necromorph would just make it a necromorph to be controlled by the Marker since at the end of the day it's organic material.
The Thing is a game changer!!! Jus like the Blob! The only thing that slows the Thing & Blob down is freezing/frigid 🥶 cold! Man has been fortunate the thing landed in ?!Antarctica!?
@@Saturn-Matrix Yeah, but this hybrid is resistant to basically everything, and spreads itself like a virus. The Predator wouldn't stand a chance, especially without the mask.
I love the Alien series and The Thing but I think with classic forms The Thing wins handily, but once you throw the black goo into the mix all bets are off I think it would become a Flood level threat
The FaceHugger would be absorbed by The Thing, which would then shift into a FaceHugger and latch on to the first poor victim it finds creating a Xenomorph, either a Drone or a worst case a Queen, which would the do all the things a regular Xeno would do until it was grievously wounded in which case it would then discard the facade and get back to absorbing (or that’s what I’m choosing to believe), either way we’re pretty screwed 😅😅😅 Thanks for the new video Quill and *please* go hug your furbabies all 💙🐱💙
They are really a "yin and yang" for each other if you think about it. The Things main "gimmick" is its ability to "absorb". The face hugger literally is build to "interject". The Thing would absorb the ENTIRE face hugger and then the ENTIRETY of the face hugger would write itself into the Thing! It would be like a perfect key into a perfect lock! That would be one hell of a pandoras box to open...
@ The Thing can’t assimilate inorganic materials. It doesn’t replicate clothing or fillings. In the prequel, one of the tells is that The Thing picked up an earring and put it in the wrong ear
If the two lifeforms were so incompatible then facehuggers would cease to function. Except they don't, they can somehow merge their own DNA with carbon based lifeforms and create hybrid xenomorphs, which means the Thing could very easily absorb and replicate the xenomorph's traits like silicon biology and acid blood resistance.
If the Facehugger’s Embryo Fully Develops: This could lead to a catastrophic hybrid that combines the Xenomorph’s deadly traits with the Thing’s cellular adaptability. In this case, the new hybrid could be more dangerous than either original creature.
@@dinoblaster736 but... he is subject to the laws of the body he projects, isn't he? maybe whatever pops out of him as a result would still be Pennywise but a new form, something he ..or IT didn't think of... good luck getting a bunch of kids to scream you're not real you can't hurt me to some crazy ass clown xenomorph lmao
@@MoNoToNeGaMeRzI'd argue that Pennywise might not have DNA nor any cells, though, so the black goo wouldn't be able to do anything if it enters his body.
@ArmandoEnfectana-bp6jo yea I agree the alien is a silicon based lifeform and a lot of people don't realise just how different that is do carbon based lifeforms the thing would be stuck pritty much can't assimilate it cant attack it cos of the acids and I know some people think the thing would be fine woth the acid no it wouldn't alien acid is beyond insane but it comes to its strength and the thing at the end of the day is flesh made up of carbon based lifeform this is why the thing can't infect plants they have different cells and so on so if can't infect plants then defo not alien
@@raven4k998 it pretty much boils down to biological limits, with that said, I mean it literally, the thing would get defeated by the potentially acidic blood of the alien which would in all likelihood melt the thing on a molecular level. I can't imagine the thing being able to adapt to withstand those acids, when it can't even adapt to withstand fire, which is much more tame than the corrosion that the acids would pose.
@@MrHuntingClaw assuming that it found away around the acid blood though it could get around the acid blood maybe maybe as it was not the most intelligent creature human could beat it and an alien is a formidably intelligent creature
@@raven4k998 if I'm not mistaken, the next barrier beyond the blood would be its composition, the thing only deal with biological matter yeah? Xenomorphs aren't really considered as being composed of natural biological materials, I don't know enough about their biology, but peeps seem to be saying aliens are silicon based or whatnot here and there.
Thing assimilates facehugger infiltrates the hive and proceeds to assimilate the enitre hive Total time given a hive equal to the one on Hadley's Hope ... 36 hours to total infection
Plagiarus praepotens was from the book cold forge and predates romulus by some years, face huggers basically are a delivery system for the black goo which then assimilates your dna
The video game Colonial Marines also touches on how the facehugger infects with black goo rather than an embryo. IIRC they don't name it "black goo" or any other name, they just specify that the host's body suffers biological restructuring and it's not simply an embryo dropped in.
I think it would end in a stalemate. The Thing can’t replicate cells that aren’t carbon based and could eject a Xenomorph embryo from itself. They both have the goal to assimilate everything, but they can’t assimilate each other. This would make them enemies as they fight over hosts. And unfortunately for The Thing, the molecular acid produced by the Xenomorphs would be perfectly suited to destroy it.
with a inexperienced thing vs xenomorphs hand to hand i would say the alien would win but the thing can use tool and if it knows to keep its distance it could even just project a sacrificial tentacle to impale/kill the alien yeah the thing would loose that arm but its won and can grow another one assuming the thing doesn't just grab a gun and use it
The moment the Facehugger touches the Thing, it would start to get assimilated. The question is, does the Facegugger have enough time to inject the Plagiarus Praepotens before being assimilated?
I would use a phaser set to dematerialize/disintegrate so it is broken down at the subatomic level. Try coming back from having the binding force of your very atoms negated.
Thing wins this they deconstruct on a molecular level and re-create the building blocks of anything it comes into physical contact with the xenomorph is limited by their lifecycle and gestation not to mention the thing has a much higher threshold of intelligence like the ability to manufacture machinery and space craft learning from their victims memories otherwise the ability to mimic a person wouldn't be at all successful if they had no clue as to how to play their victims occupation. Only reason the "thing" was defeated in the movies is because its the movies, if something were to be truly like the thing they'd have zero issues assimilating entire worlds.
The black goo that creates the Xenomorph are nano bots that reconfigure DNA it it's design, the thing cannot infect the systetic element of the Xenomorph but only be influenced by it. Xenomorph always create hybrids, that's what they are designed to do.
@@Saturn-Matrix what exactly is molecular level? I would imagine that to be smaller than nano bots the thing would rip them apart every component to the thing is sentient like nanobots there is zero possibility of gestation for the xenomorph. any eggs would fail to latch and be expelled from the body. If the thing also has the memories of everything its ever assimilated then its not far to reason it knows how to make weaponry that would make the predator blush with envy. Face it the Thing outclasses the xenomorph in every way period. Also that black goo is a crap gimmick, only those that loved Prom date with michael fasbender's Alien (prometheus & covenant) appreciate that garbage.
Unfortunately, The Thing can only replicate carbon based cells, as shown when it rejects inorganic materials. The Xenomorphs are silicon based and so cannot be assimilated. The Thing having such control over its cells would also allow it to eject a Xenomorph embryo, preventing them from replicating it. They would be at a standstill
@@normalhuman9878 except the intelligence of thw thing would see to it there is more ways to skin the cat that is xenomorph from ever existing last I checked humans bullets can kill xenos its not to far a stretch to imagine the thing manufacturing weapons of much greater effectiveness. Xenos can be intelligent but the inability to manufacture weaponry and its own life cycle requiring a suitable host unlike the thing where there's ample subjects suitable to assimilate irrespective of the size of the host it could be a bug to a squirrel or cat the thing just wins period. Only reason it fails is because plot requires it to.
I would imagine that if a face-hugger infected the host of the thing it would probably kill the face-hugger before being like. "Oooh, that's cool," and make the baby xeno itself, growing into the worst thing to encounter. "The thingamabob"
The part about the Thing/Xenomorph creation being atomized by a nuclear blast into spores carried by the winds all over the planet is nightmare fuel...
If an organism can adapt and morph at a cellular level, there’s no way a face hugger can harm it in any way. The xenomorph would simply be another line item in the long list of species the thing has assimilated.
Considering now that, assuming the Thing keeps its disguise up, it would passively infect the facehugger while being infected. So the chestburster embryo might still develop since the mutagen is interacting with cells that are acting like the target cells but then the infected facehugger would also walk away from the encounter
If the mutagen is introduced directly into an undisguised or undifferentiated Thing, that could certainly change matters but I still feel like it comes down to whether or not there's enough black goo to affect all of the Thing's biomass at once. If there's more black goo, it'd probably end up being some new cancerous xeno-mass but if there's not then the Thing might assimilate some new tricks
Different but just like the blob...one would simply dissolve it, one would assimilate and morph into it...better question would be does it become the facehugger, an adult zenomorph due to the embryo or a weird hybrid of some bizarre extra alien thing
Xenomorph is a silicon-based lifeforms that can parasite carbon-based lifeforms and assimilate their genetic codes for vertical mutation. The thing though had never shown the ability to affect silicon-based lifeforms. However, since each of the cells of the thing is a separate creature, it is very possible that facehuggers can not infect the thing since the thing can just eject the foreign matters it does not need.
If facehuggers, a silicon-based organism, can interact with and hybridize on a genetic level with carbon-based organisms, then the opposite would also be true and the Thing could assimilate a facehugger right back, from which it could gain the ability to copy and assimilate other silicon-based organisms.
I've always considered the xenomorphs to be the perfect weapon to fight the Thing. Acid blood and silicon based life prevents infection and such weapons would destroy the Thing on a cellular level. Xenomorphs compete with the Thing over hosts. Such a comic or novel would make for a fascinating story: The Yautja find a world ripe with life to hunt. The ecosystem has evolved with lifeforms possessing hyper active immune systems. They go to hunt, get "tainted" (not assimilated, their wrist nukes tell them they are infected) and they call in a multi-queen drop on the planet to purge the ecosystem of infection.
I don't think the thing would be able absorb the face hugger, as their chemistry is incompatible. After all the face hugger is an evolution of the black goo, an incredible potent bioweapon. If a face hugger attacked the thing in the form of a creature it was imitating. It would initially try to infect the face hugger as it tried to implant an egg. After this failed at a cellular level I think the thing would grow teeth and claws to attack the face hugger causing an explosion of acid. I think the thing expels or kills the face hugger with physical attack but enduring catastrophic damage itself. The only question is if there is enough undamaged tissue of the thing to crawl away and lick its wounds.
This entirely depends on the size of the thing. The bigger is the things, the smarter it gets, and can allow making more mistakes trying to assimilate the xenomorph, which it may succeed with enough brain power and biomass.
I think that the Thing would be victorious, because it has an actual active intelligence behind it, as opposed to the Plagiarus Praepotens, which is just a reactive substance. It might be a bit of a fight, but, eventually, the Thing would figure out how the Plagiarus works and overcome it.
How would it contain its acid blood while changing shape? Plasma seems like it would still be effective. In Terminator lore, plasma is sufficiently hot even to destroy the polymimetic alloy a T-1000 is made of (so will acid, as seen in Genisys). Now, The Thing vs. a T-1000, I'd like to see.
Without looking at the Video I can tell, that the Facehugger would have 0 Chance of survival. It would enter the facehugger and make it something completly new, fitting to its own need. The Thing is not a shapeshifter. It in itself is a parasite. Even more formidable then the Xenomorph. A wise Predator would throw ALOT of bombs on an area, where the thing is, making sure that not even dust remains.
I think they’d cancel each other out. The thing would violently attack the face hugger as it jumped on, and the acid in its blood would melt the thing.
There's a chance nothing happens at all if The Thing is introduced to the black goo. They might even be the same substance, and The Thing just goes, "Oh, more me."
I spoked with CHAT GPT about that and we decided that Xenothing will not be able to stop. Title: Xenothing: Ultimate Enemy /Tagline: "One enemy, two natures."
Honestly, I’m thinking the moment you put the two in a vat to combine they would just cancel each other out; both would die attempting to overwrite the other.
I mean worst case scenario for the thing is that the face hugger impregnates it but the birth would not kill the thing. Worst case scenario for the face hugger is that the thing changes it's physique such that it cannot be impregnated, and it absorbs the face hugger.
The ultimate doomsday nightmare. If this was real. Definitely video version of this nightmare would be awesome. Roots meets Mad Max and The Flesh That Hates.
There would be no hybridisation, if any part of the Thing remains, that part would eat whatever you are trying to combine it with, and all you would end up with, is a Thing with a new DNA matrix in it's memory.
That the Alien inherets Properties of the Host was always Canon: -Ash calls it Kane's son -It is implied, it stripped Lambert naked, and appearently inserted his Tail, as Kane had a crush on Lambert -The Alien in Alien 3 is Digitigrade like the Dog it hatched from. -The Complex Reproduction would not make sence, if the Host is just Food. It takes Properties to adapt.
This was in a way Covered by Metroid Fusion. If we apply the same rules, the Xenomorphs from Alien win every time as they are 'The Thing's" Natural predator.
Kinda like having Alex Mercer from Prototype vs the Thing, or a Face hugger. Alex is superhuman and a super bioweapon living parasite that can consume others, and becomes stronger and gain memories from who ever he absorbs. If he got his hands on any of the one of the two creatures and merge with them, he'll be unstoppable
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Bizarre conversation topic but I'm in. Clearly the Thing would win out, it isn't so much an organism as an adaptive genetic material. So regardless what type of lifeform it encounters, it can assimilate and replicate it. The "Alien" organism is a highly structured macro lifeform.
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Like you said
the thing, even if it infected a face hugger, would at some point encounter the the true agent of infection of a face hugger
rather than the biological delivery system that makes up the face hugger
so perhaps it would not be wise to infect a face hugger back at the risk of becoming counter infected
also there is the issue of the highly corrosive blood of aliens
it is not clear to me that a things organic make up could withstand that in the same way that the aliens own molocular make up is able to which could in theory also make the face hugger immune to the things infection attempts
it may be that if these two faced off it would result in nothing but a draw assuming the thing could not infect aliens bc of the corrosive blood and like you said the face hugger could never properly infect the thing with its mechanisms of infection
so in theory you could have a really interesting and long drawn out battle between these creatures where they might eventually simply just coexist developing an instinct to ignore each as predator or prey if they inhabited the same environment for a sufficient perior of time
it could make an interesting story if it was done right
maybe humans show up and find them fighting each other at first while humans just observe, but then they cooperate by deliberately forming the hybrid species so that they can defeat the human's safe observation methods
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Under the old logic of the Facehugger just implanting an embryo then the Thing would just assimilate the embryo and nothing would end up happening outside of the Thing gaining Alien DNA. The Thing might also just end up assimilating the Facehugger if it latches on, and then you'd end up with a terrible mutant Facehugger Thing.
There's also an alternative third option, it's shown in a few of the comics that Facehuggers tend to avoid hosts with diseases/genetic conditions. I'd probably imagine that the Facehugger might realize something is up with the disguised Thing and just nope on out of there, not bothering to interact with it at all.
And maybe the thing could make its own Facehuggers to assimilate more people
@@William_afton169 It could but wouldn;t even need to. A single cell of the Thing can replace an entire organism, it could just touch someone and in hours it'd be over or just expell smaller organisms from itself to spread around and assimilate senselessly.
@@grizzlymelon8376 It probably is more complicated than that. Otherwise it would never need to transform. All it would need to do is poke people in disguise and nobody would be the wiser.
@@igm4326 There's SOMEWHAT an explanation for this. The thing's intelligence seems to scale with size + complexity of the organism they're mimicking. At its smallest level, cellular, it's reduced to a primal state that has no concept of self-sacrifice or grand strategy. This is why the blood test works; it exploits the isolated blood sample's lack of higher intelligence and inability to be controlled. The Thing was in a weakened state when it was first 'discovered,' so this strategy of biding time and waiting patiently was somewhat thrown out the window when the humans become aware of its existence before it could infect everyone.
So, we know that:
A. it's likely that 'transformation' from a minor infection to its final stages will take hours, maybe even a day.
B. rapid transformation requires more aggressive means of infection, which requires transformation.
C. cold temperatures in the context of the movie seemed to inhibit its infection vectors, or at least, there must be *some* reason it didn't just infest the vents and disperse aerosolized infection into the atmosphere.
D. The thing in the movie was on a time limit, and did not have the luxury of concealment. It was already 'discovered' and unable to play the long con by the time it had the mass, and assimilated intelligence to start conning its prey.
F. The thing does not operate on a hivemind, and separate Thing entities seem to be almost adversarial, willing to sacrifice other Thing entities but never themselves. These thing entities also may not be intelligence enough to 'conceal' if they are small enough.
In the movie, you'll notice that the thing *only* transforms in two scenarios: A. when it believes it has physical superiority and can easily overpower its prey, or B. it is cornered.
It needed to transform because the humans pressured it to. It was also on a time limit, and the humans took aggressive action like testing, while the cold inhibited its growth. It's very likely that, yes, a Thing in a warm environment with ample infection vectors and no containment would.. Just spread to anything, and everything. Rapidly. Likely without even changing, as it could contaminate food, water, soil, and just about everything in-between, while being impossible to remove from the environment. The Thing is also hungry.. It's pretty clear that although there is a superior strategy, it can't help itself. At the human-size, the Thing is still beholden to instinct and just can't help but feed when it sees an opportunity, even if the optimal strategy is to wait and slowly assimilate.
Now *THIS* is an interesting idea!
It's a Shoggoth
That the Thing, quite astounding despite alien
It depends on how well the Thing supercell can withstand the acid blood of the facehugger. If it can’t, then it won’t be able to completely assimilate the facehugger and would be forced to expel it. If it can, then the Thing would potentially gain access to whatever hivemind the Xeno species has.
However, the Thing is vulnerable to fire, which the Xeno’s are more resistant to. For this reason, I do not believe the Thing would have any resistance to the Xeno’s acid. I believe the acid would destroy the Thing supercells before they could assimilate the Xeno cells. As a result, the Thing would be forced to expel any facehugger or xenomorph it came into contact with. The Xeno’s certainly wouldn’t be able to kill or infect the Thing either, not without intentionally slaughtering themselves to form a pool of their acid blood to completely dissolve it in.
Ah... Xenomorphs are not very resistant to fire. A flamethrower kills them pretty quick.
I refer you to the movie... Aliens.
@ Except for when it doesn’t and it runs off before any significant damage any done.
edit: also why is the @ broken? Your username was there when I hit post.
@@MisterPuck
Have no idea. TH-cam has all kinds of functionality problems.
It also deletes or hides people's posts a lot too.
The reason the thing is not resistent to fire is because most animals aren't , it will assimilate the most basic cells of the xeno and then will be capable to produce the caparace the xenos have.
@@OOTurokthose were super powerful pulse rifles. Xenomorphs are somewhat resistant to fire but still hate extreme temperatures. With continued exposure, they can begin to withstand fire longer as shown in Alien: Isolation
A Thingamorph would be wild.
Created a Shoggoth
Where are the terminators when you need them?
A Xenothing
The world would be fucked
@@JReed7560 As in Xeno-thing or xe-nothing? Wasn't quite sure. :)
Very simple. The Thing assimilates the facehugger, it assimilates the chestburster, and now the Thing just added acid blood to its arsenal.
@watchinglearner Problem with that logic is the black goo responsible for the xenomorphy seem to be intelligently designed nanobots created by the Engineers thay reassemble DNA and are synthetic in origin. I wager you get a xeno thing hybrid.
They are to different biologically. It’s silicone based
@@jonharrison3114 if their too different to be compatible, that kind of ruins the point of xenomorphs
@@dinah9463 *they're
The Thing asimilates Everything.
Unless its the Blob Maybe?
The blob would devour the thing because it’s nothing but moving acid pretty much. Even if the thing tries to adapt to it every cell in its body would melt.
The Blob would dissolve The Thing I'm guessing
There's a theory somewhere online that states The Blob was created to eliminate The Thing. Originally, it came on a meteorite, possibly sent there as a biological weapon to counter The Thing. With many Blob's being sent to planets where The Thing may be present, one planet being Earth.
@ that’s not a bad theory and honestly it is the perfect counter to the thing for two main reasons.
The things primary goal is to both assimilate and survive no matter what. So if it was ever in danger it’ll either run or attack especially when it comes to heat or acid.
The blob is literal acid moving about so any of the things cell comes near the blob it’ll run.
The only actual way I can see the thing winning is if it gets ice or something to freeze the blob like the 80s movie. However the issue is the thing has to assimilate a person who’s knowable enough to counter the blob, while also trying to stay hidden amongst people.
he can't absorb Ghost Nappa, cuz he's a ghost.
I only decided to watch because the thumbnail had me laughing..
haha
Funny it's just a few hours ago I wrote in another video, "Funny that alien also means disturbingly different and we still call the thing, just the thing"
While the thing is a alien it shifts into something more recognizable so its more apt to call it the thing instead of a alien of some kind even though technically speaking IT IS alien but it's more compatible with you and your body than even your own mother or father are.
The thing absorbs on the cellular level..... so the thing would literally absorb the facehugger.
But it's a silicon based lifeform so maybe not u got to remember silicon is very different to carbon and the thing is carbon based so for all we know the alien is immune to infection with is one reason why the alien can go to any world and not worry about infections from the worlds they are on also the immune system of there hosts doesn't react to them more than likely id imagine the thing would wanna stay away from the alien I think romanokes even talks about the things immune system and that the host they try to assimilate immune system do infact try to fight back so the alien having an extremely strong immune system might be immune
Unless it got dissolved by the acid blood.
@@MisterPuck only so much acid. Contrary to movie land acid can only react with equal volume matter. Human sized thing equals an absorbed facehugger. Cat sized……. Maybe not.
@@mikewaterfield3599 Except they both live in magic movie land, so the acid might do more damage than you’re thinking. But even in your case, the Thing would also have to choose to endure the acid until it burned out, which is not usually what it chooses to do. It would more likely expel the facehugger and split off the parts being dissolved before running off.
@@MisterPuckBeing as the Thing also copies. It would also gain the Face Huggers ability to resist acid. The Face Huggers don't spray acid. They plant an egg. An egg that would get absorbed.
I got a good idea.
What if... A Face Hugger attacks the regenerator from Resident Evil 4?
That’s interesting 🤔
Infinite alien farm. It could be implanted with an embryo over and over
Face hugger vs plaga
Regenerative Xenomorph with parasitic properties thanks to plaga DNA. Wonderful.
Guess it depends heavily on if the thing is compatible with silicone based lifeforms, an then you get the messy who overrides who, still a interesting thought experiment regardless.
The Xenomorphs in Aliens are Silicon based to survive and to carry and preserve the black goo, so if they meet the Thing from Thing, the Thing can't infect it because the Xenomorphs is made of flint, not coal and there is a chance the Thing can be infected by the Black goo.
Xeno's still have DNA and RNA, and the thing is actually a sub-cellular lifeform. We know this because of how it behaves. It infects virtually on contact, and essentially controls cells on touch, likely through DNA and RNA tricks. For example, we see the thing literally meld with a guy on contact. At that point it doesn't matter if the xeno is silicon based, the thing will still be able to co-opt its cells. The thing also likely uses DNA to physically alter cells on the microscopic level, which explains how it can meld cells together soo quickly. You can picture the cells growing tendrils, which can then use tricks to bond cells together, the same traits that bonds cells together naturally, it just does that function at will. So the xeno cells simply have no defense against the thing. The acid blood would melt the thing for sure, but as soon as even one thing cell gets on a xenomorph, it's over, the xenomorph will eventually become a thing as it takes over more and more cells in the xenomorph. This means the xenomorph's only chance is to avoid the thing altogether. But since the xenomorph is purely a physical attacking entity, it would naturally attack the thing....the problem is, even slashing at the thing, even if it does damage, will result in thing cells on it. Same with every mode of attack. Essentially the only way you can attack the thing and not get infected, is if it's with a tool made of a physical material like metal.
@@ArmandoEnfectana-bp6jo What does it matter that the Alien is covered in silicone? On the one hand, strictly nothing says that the thing cannot copy it and on the other hand, nothing says that this silicone has exactly the same properties and structure as the one we know. It is exactly the same thing between our synthetic rubber and natural rubber. This silicone remains produced by a living organism. It is hardly more different than ivory which is partly mineral but which the thing imitates without any worries and therefore can just as logically be able to assimilate "organic" silicone. Then if it were up to that, the thing would go through all the ports it can slip through and nothing prevents it from creating its own ports to rush into. The acid will burn it a few seconds before assimilation integrates the adequate immunity. Even the black liquid (which is a total aberration in the Alien's reproduction cycle) can't do anything. It will simply infect a small part of the thing's cells while the rest of the cells have time to copy the dark matter and the latter stops attacking it before being assimilated itself. We must not forget that the dark matter has strictly no intelligence or particular instinct. It does what it can do with what it has without any creative spirit behind it. These metamorphoses are therefore totally predictable depending on the host to which it is exposed to the very very big difference of the thing which will be capable of creating something totally different even if it assimilates 2 totally identical clones, and above all, of doing it in a premeditated manner.
*silicon
Somthing that was on my chest for years now is that if The Facehugger succeeded in impregnating The Thing then the Xenomorph itself wouldn’t get infected BUT it would have the shapeshifting abilities of the thing and even able to spread the disease.
R u sure the thing in ur chest isnt a chest burster??
@ I’m deadass. Think about it. If the Thing can’t copy teeth filling how the f*ck can they assimilate a Xeno? They’re whole bodies and DNA have silicone. It’s totally possible.
😅 a shape shifting xeno would be horrifying
wouldn't the egg just get assimilated? bro doesn't know how meat works 💀
@ No. What did I just say. The Xenomorphs…ARE INORGANIC! They’re whole body’s and genome is silicone based. That’s probably why they never get sick in any world they’re in. The Thing can’t even copy tooth fillings. Explain how it’s gonna assimilate a Xeno?
I always called facehuggers "flesh crabs with a scorpion tail" when i was younger, because i never knew its name. But i freaking love angry raw chicken spider.
So basically If the Thing was attacked by a facehugger you get the flood. (great)
Nothing. The Thing would absorb the face hugger's genome. Considering it can change it's biology and structure at a whim and the Facehugger can not.... The Thing could just not have an opening for the facehugger to plunge it's ovapositor in.
it could also just suck in its own face and envelop the facehugger while it was trying to implant the embryo.
My take is: Since the facehugger attack only creates an embryo in an otherwise unaffected body, that same would happen in the thing's body, a xenomorph embryo that would swiftly get absorbed.
That's what I thought too. I figured, y'know, the facehugger implants an embryo into an infected host, whose Thing cells swiftly begin assimilating the embryo's biomass. I don't think it would ever get to the point where it would become a full xenomorph. At best, you're looking at another piece of The Thing that'll just slither away if the host body ever gets destroyed, like that guy's head in the movie.
And likely, the facehugger, itself, would be assimilated too, since they need to stick around a while to keep their victims breathing and all.
What about the acid? Can the thing absorb something with acid?
Facehuggers and xenomorphs are pretty much useless against the thing. You can't really mutate something that's already as mutable as the thing. Even the acid blood of xenomorphs is only going to be an impediment to it until the thing starts absorbing a xenomorph and gains the knowledge of how to prevent itself from being harmed by that acid. You have to remember that the thing is a supercell organism, which means that it becomes smarter the more biomass it absorbs and, unlike xenomorphs, the thing is not limited to larger animals when it comes to what it utilizes. Anything it comes into contact with that's organic, whether it be trees, blades of grass, or even bacteria, becomes food for it. You could have an entire world that has been overrun with xenomorphs, drop a couple cells from the thing on that planet, and it's only a matter of time before there's no more xenomorphs there.
Thing vs alien vs necromorph pathogen vs symbiote vs t virus …molecular warfare. Would be a crazy interesting turn out
Don't know too much about necromophs but arent they just a mass of dead flesh being controlled by the marker, then the Brethren Moons? So maybe the thing couldn't effected it since it'll need living material
@@ODST_RepublicI don't think there's any restriction given for assimilating living vs dead material. The problem for the Thing is assimilating a necromorph would just make it a necromorph to be controlled by the Marker since at the end of the day it's organic material.
@@firestarex3544 fair point
A new fun hunting experience for the Predator.
Yet the predator wouldn't last, but if it keeps it's mask on, it can at least retreat, if it's smart enough to choose to.
If it can assimilate a xeno, it 100% can assimilate a yautja. Best case scenario the yautja nukes itself.
The Thing is a game changer!!! Jus like the Blob!
The only thing that slows the Thing & Blob down is freezing/frigid 🥶 cold! Man has been fortunate the thing landed in ?!Antarctica!?
@ExetiorExeExetiorthearch-demon Humans defeated the thing with fire, and predators are way more competent than humans
@@Saturn-Matrix Yeah, but this hybrid is resistant to basically everything, and spreads itself like a virus. The Predator wouldn't stand a chance, especially without the mask.
I love the Alien series and The Thing but I think with classic forms The Thing wins handily, but once you throw the black goo into the mix all bets are off
I think it would become a Flood level threat
They ruined aliens with all this afterthought junk. The lore is a mess
True
The FaceHugger would be absorbed by The Thing, which would then shift into a FaceHugger and latch on to the first poor victim it finds creating a Xenomorph, either a Drone or a worst case a Queen, which would the do all the things a regular Xeno would do until it was grievously wounded in which case it would then discard the facade and get back to absorbing (or that’s what I’m choosing to believe), either way we’re pretty screwed 😅😅😅
Thanks for the new video Quill and *please* go hug your furbabies all 💙🐱💙
That's not my face. That's not it either. Now its over there. Too late.
At first I thought you were saying it was a butthugger instead of a facehugger.
They are really a "yin and yang" for each other if you think about it.
The Things main "gimmick" is its ability to "absorb".
The face hugger literally is build to "interject".
The Thing would absorb the ENTIRE face hugger and then the ENTIRETY of the face hugger would write itself into the Thing!
It would be like a perfect key into a perfect lock!
That would be one hell of a pandoras box to open...
Sadly, no. The Thing can only replicate carbon based cells and the Xenomorphs are silicon based :/
@@normalhuman9878There is no proof that it can only assimilate carbon based cells.
@ The Thing can’t assimilate inorganic materials. It doesn’t replicate clothing or fillings. In the prequel, one of the tells is that The Thing picked up an earring and put it in the wrong ear
If the two lifeforms were so incompatible then facehuggers would cease to function. Except they don't, they can somehow merge their own DNA with carbon based lifeforms and create hybrid xenomorphs, which means the Thing could very easily absorb and replicate the xenomorph's traits like silicon biology and acid blood resistance.
If the Facehugger’s Embryo Fully Develops: This could lead to a catastrophic hybrid that combines the Xenomorph’s deadly traits with the Thing’s cellular adaptability. In this case, the new hybrid could be more dangerous than either original creature.
' "What if a Facehugger Attacked The Thing" That was a thought that I thought of. It was as if you read my mind ' - Chrome
Sad. - Me.
What if The Thing or a Facehugger attacked Pennywise?
Try splinter creature too
not much probably, because pennywise is a magical entity and is not composed of biological matter
@@dinoblaster736 but... he is subject to the laws of the body he projects, isn't he? maybe whatever pops out of him as a result would still be Pennywise but a new form, something he ..or IT didn't think of... good luck getting a bunch of kids to scream you're not real you can't hurt me to some crazy ass clown xenomorph lmao
@@MoNoToNeGaMeRzI'd argue that Pennywise might not have DNA nor any cells, though, so the black goo wouldn't be able to do anything if it enters his body.
Pennywise is a lame clown
The Thing would assimilate it, this has been done on other channels.
Okay. So?
@@alexandersage6261, He is joking, bro the Thing can't assimalate the Xenomorphs because the Xenomorphs is just a walking peice of flint and glass.
@ArmandoEnfectana-bp6jo yea I agree the alien is a silicon based lifeform and a lot of people don't realise just how different that is do carbon based lifeforms the thing would be stuck pritty much can't assimilate it cant attack it cos of the acids and I know some people think the thing would be fine woth the acid no it wouldn't alien acid is beyond insane but it comes to its strength and the thing at the end of the day is flesh made up of carbon based lifeform this is why the thing can't infect plants they have different cells and so on so if can't infect plants then defo not alien
What about xenos acid tho
@@nobertstanel9428 Thing inherits the acid resistance.
Xenomorphs instincts would tell it that The Thing is neither food nor prey, so it would stay away.
but which would win the aliens is perfect vs the thing which is also perfect🤣🤣
@@raven4k998 it pretty much boils down to biological limits, with that said, I mean it literally, the thing would get defeated by the potentially acidic blood of the alien which would in all likelihood melt the thing on a molecular level. I can't imagine the thing being able to adapt to withstand those acids, when it can't even adapt to withstand fire, which is much more tame than the corrosion that the acids would pose.
@@MrHuntingClaw assuming that it found away around the acid blood though it could get around the acid blood maybe maybe as it was not the most intelligent creature human could beat it and an alien is a formidably intelligent creature
@@raven4k998 if I'm not mistaken, the next barrier beyond the blood would be its composition, the thing only deal with biological matter yeah? Xenomorphs aren't really considered as being composed of natural biological materials, I don't know enough about their biology, but peeps seem to be saying aliens are silicon based or whatnot here and there.
Spot on. The Facehugger, given their tendency to avoid hosts with diseases/problems, would just ignore it and nope on out of there.
Nurgle is a possibility.
0:57 It even mimics Palmer's snarky sense of humor!
I can see the Thing separating a small portion of itself, which then returns to assimilate the stable monstrosity its old body has become.
Such a funny what if scenario. Your video image sold me it's soo good.
Thing assimilates facehugger infiltrates the hive and proceeds to assimilate the enitre hive
Total time given a hive equal to the one on Hadley's Hope ... 36 hours to total infection
When a host gets grabbed by a facehugger The Thing's cells would be like "I'm not locked in here with you... YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!"
Plagiarus praepotens was from the book cold forge and predates romulus by some years, face huggers basically are a delivery system for the black goo which then assimilates your dna
The video game Colonial Marines also touches on how the facehugger infects with black goo rather than an embryo. IIRC they don't name it "black goo" or any other name, they just specify that the host's body suffers biological restructuring and it's not simply an embryo dropped in.
Cold Forge is an amazing book!
That's a genius funny description @ 1:37
3:14 Yeeaahh, no!!! You would effectively make a Flood! There s no coming back from that.
I think it would end in a stalemate. The Thing can’t replicate cells that aren’t carbon based and could eject a Xenomorph embryo from itself.
They both have the goal to assimilate everything, but they can’t assimilate each other. This would make them enemies as they fight over hosts.
And unfortunately for The Thing, the molecular acid produced by the Xenomorphs would be perfectly suited to destroy it.
with a inexperienced thing vs xenomorphs hand to hand i would say the alien would win
but the thing can use tool and if it knows to keep its distance it could even just project a sacrificial tentacle to impale/kill the alien
yeah the thing would loose that arm but its won and can grow another one
assuming the thing doesn't just grab a gun and use it
The Thing would just absorb the face hugger, just like any other organism. End video…
The moment the Facehugger touches the Thing, it would start to get assimilated.
The question is, does the Facegugger have enough time to inject the Plagiarus Praepotens before being assimilated?
I would use a phaser set to dematerialize/disintegrate so it is broken down at the subatomic level. Try coming back from having the binding force of your very atoms negated.
You don't need a facehugger to stop The Thing, you need a metroid.
Thing wins this they deconstruct on a molecular level and re-create the building blocks of anything it comes into physical contact with the xenomorph is limited by their lifecycle and gestation not to mention the thing has a much higher threshold of intelligence like the ability to manufacture machinery and space craft learning from their victims memories otherwise the ability to mimic a person wouldn't be at all successful if they had no clue as to how to play their victims occupation. Only reason the "thing" was defeated in the movies is because its the movies, if something were to be truly like the thing they'd have zero issues assimilating entire worlds.
The black goo that creates the Xenomorph are nano bots that reconfigure DNA it it's design, the thing cannot infect the systetic element of the Xenomorph but only be influenced by it. Xenomorph always create hybrids, that's what they are designed to do.
@@Saturn-Matrix what exactly is molecular level? I would imagine that to be smaller than nano bots the thing would rip them apart every component to the thing is sentient like nanobots there is zero possibility of gestation for the xenomorph. any eggs would fail to latch and be expelled from the body. If the thing also has the memories of everything its ever assimilated then its not far to reason it knows how to make weaponry that would make the predator blush with envy. Face it the Thing outclasses the xenomorph in every way period. Also that black goo is a crap gimmick, only those that loved Prom date with michael fasbender's Alien (prometheus & covenant) appreciate that garbage.
Unfortunately, The Thing can only replicate carbon based cells, as shown when it rejects inorganic materials. The Xenomorphs are silicon based and so cannot be assimilated. The Thing having such control over its cells would also allow it to eject a Xenomorph embryo, preventing them from replicating it. They would be at a standstill
@@normalhuman9878 except the intelligence of thw thing would see to it there is more ways to skin the cat that is xenomorph from ever existing last I checked humans bullets can kill xenos its not to far a stretch to imagine the thing manufacturing weapons of much greater effectiveness. Xenos can be intelligent but the inability to manufacture weaponry and its own life cycle requiring a suitable host unlike the thing where there's ample subjects suitable to assimilate irrespective of the size of the host it could be a bug to a squirrel or cat the thing just wins period. Only reason it fails is because plot requires it to.
The Thing would assimilate the Xeno or the Xeno would dissolve the Thing ? A pointless question but well worth the thought, love it!
The weirdness cancels out, they make a middle aged insurance consultant called Gerald Johnson.
I’ve been thinking about the question of whether alien or the thing would come out on top for a decade.
The Thing, the xenomorph, Grant Grant, the blob... all trapped inside the Shimmer from Annihilation.
Why would you even think of that , this is the most disturbing combination of horrors I’ve ever seen, I’m sick to my stomach
I would imagine that if a face-hugger infected the host of the thing it would probably kill the face-hugger before being like. "Oooh, that's cool," and make the baby xeno itself, growing into the worst thing to encounter. "The thingamabob"
Couldn't sleep and this came up as recommended
So basically
Xenomorph + the thing = 40k chaos spawn
The facehugger would simply become the thing. The thing infects at a molecular level.
The part about the Thing/Xenomorph creation being atomized by a nuclear blast into spores carried by the winds all over the planet is nightmare fuel...
About time somebody did this. Yes. I am imagining it, and it's kinda' freakin' me out, dude.
The Thing starts off with the facehugger skin. It learns of it's acid qualities and adapts.
Face hugger vs. Dune sandworm. Do eeettt!!!
It's crazy that the weirdest videos catch my attention lol. Something in me had to know the answer.
The Facehugger would be screwed.
If an organism can adapt and morph at a cellular level, there’s no way a face hugger can harm it in any way. The xenomorph would simply be another line item in the long list of species the thing has assimilated.
This is really good.
I'm imagining it forming a xenomorph normally except it is also a Thing and also the host body doesn't actually die from it
Considering now that, assuming the Thing keeps its disguise up, it would passively infect the facehugger while being infected. So the chestburster embryo might still develop since the mutagen is interacting with cells that are acting like the target cells but then the infected facehugger would also walk away from the encounter
If the mutagen is introduced directly into an undisguised or undifferentiated Thing, that could certainly change matters but I still feel like it comes down to whether or not there's enough black goo to affect all of the Thing's biomass at once. If there's more black goo, it'd probably end up being some new cancerous xeno-mass but if there's not then the Thing might assimilate some new tricks
Different but just like the blob...one would simply dissolve it, one would assimilate and morph into it...better question would be does it become the facehugger, an adult zenomorph due to the embryo or a weird hybrid of some bizarre extra alien thing
Xenomorph is a silicon-based lifeforms that can parasite carbon-based lifeforms and assimilate their genetic codes for vertical mutation.
The thing though had never shown the ability to affect silicon-based lifeforms. However, since each of the cells of the thing is a separate creature, it is very possible that facehuggers can not infect the thing since the thing can just eject the foreign matters it does not need.
If facehuggers, a silicon-based organism, can interact with and hybridize on a genetic level with carbon-based organisms, then the opposite would also be true and the Thing could assimilate a facehugger right back, from which it could gain the ability to copy and assimilate other silicon-based organisms.
I've always considered the xenomorphs to be the perfect weapon to fight the Thing. Acid blood and silicon based life prevents infection and such weapons would destroy the Thing on a cellular level. Xenomorphs compete with the Thing over hosts.
Such a comic or novel would make for a fascinating story: The Yautja find a world ripe with life to hunt. The ecosystem has evolved with lifeforms possessing hyper active immune systems. They go to hunt, get "tainted" (not assimilated, their wrist nukes tell them they are infected) and they call in a multi-queen drop on the planet to purge the ecosystem of infection.
I don't think the thing would be able absorb the face hugger, as their chemistry is incompatible. After all the face hugger is an evolution of the black goo, an incredible potent bioweapon. If a face hugger attacked the thing in the form of a creature it was imitating. It would initially try to infect the face hugger as it tried to implant an egg. After this failed at a cellular level I think the thing would grow teeth and claws to attack the face hugger causing an explosion of acid. I think the thing expels or kills the face hugger with physical attack but enduring catastrophic damage itself. The only question is if there is enough undamaged tissue of the thing to crawl away and lick its wounds.
This entirely depends on the size of the thing. The bigger is the things, the smarter it gets, and can allow making more mistakes trying to assimilate the xenomorph, which it may succeed with enough brain power and biomass.
actually, I think the moment a face hugger touches the thing, it would begin absorbing it into itself and making a copy.
We need a movie about this lol
I think that the Thing would be victorious, because it has an actual active intelligence behind it, as opposed to the Plagiarus Praepotens, which is just a reactive substance. It might be a bit of a fight, but, eventually, the Thing would figure out how the Plagiarus works and overcome it.
How would it contain its acid blood while changing shape? Plasma seems like it would still be effective. In Terminator lore, plasma is sufficiently hot even to destroy the polymimetic alloy a T-1000 is made of (so will acid, as seen in Genisys). Now, The Thing vs. a T-1000, I'd like to see.
Alien vs The Thing movie would be fantastic! 👍😊
Without looking at the Video I can tell, that the Facehugger would have 0 Chance of survival. It would enter the facehugger and make it something completly new, fitting to its own need. The Thing is not a shapeshifter. It in itself is a parasite. Even more formidable then the Xenomorph. A wise Predator would throw ALOT of bombs on an area, where the thing is, making sure that not even dust remains.
How about if Alex Mercer from Prototype was infected by the Thing?
Flamethrowers work pretty well on the thing. One would imagine that beam weapons that disintegrate would also work quite well.
It's hilarious how you can tell from the comments which ones didn't actually watch the clip.
I have a question if we can't destroy it could we freeze it so I can't move?
I think they’d cancel each other out.
The thing would violently attack the face hugger as it jumped on, and the acid in its blood would melt the thing.
There's a chance nothing happens at all if The Thing is introduced to the black goo. They might even be the same substance, and The Thing just goes, "Oh, more me."
I spoked with CHAT GPT about that and we decided that Xenothing will not be able to stop. Title: Xenothing: Ultimate Enemy /Tagline: "One enemy, two natures."
Honestly, I’m thinking the moment you put the two in a vat to combine they would just cancel each other out; both would die attempting to overwrite the other.
I mean worst case scenario for the thing is that the face hugger impregnates it but the birth would not kill the thing. Worst case scenario for the face hugger is that the thing changes it's physique such that it cannot be impregnated, and it absorbs the face hugger.
The ultimate doomsday nightmare. If this was real. Definitely video version of this nightmare would be awesome. Roots meets Mad Max and The Flesh That Hates.
There would be no hybridisation, if any part of the Thing remains, that part would eat whatever you are trying to combine it with, and all you would end up with, is a Thing with a new DNA matrix in it's memory.
so thats how the Tyranids where created
One of the most chilling crossvers ever.
2027 - the year of "Alien Thing"
That the Alien inherets Properties of the Host was always Canon:
-Ash calls it Kane's son
-It is implied, it stripped Lambert naked, and appearently inserted his Tail, as Kane had a crush on Lambert
-The Alien in Alien 3 is Digitigrade like the Dog it hatched from.
-The Complex Reproduction would not make sence, if the Host is just Food. It takes Properties to adapt.
What the Thing or Xenomorph mix with symbiotes?
The face hugger would be absorbed by the thing. If there are xenomorphs around it would pretend to be part of the hive until it was all of the hive.
This was in a way Covered by Metroid Fusion. If we apply the same rules, the Xenomorphs from Alien win every time as they are 'The Thing's" Natural predator.
The thing: I copie beings
Facehugger: I grow beings from beings
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sounds like a xenomorph plagiarus praepotens r alot more potent than your average parasitic alien cells lol
Kinda like having Alex Mercer from Prototype vs the Thing, or a Face hugger.
Alex is superhuman and a super bioweapon living parasite that can consume others,
and becomes stronger and gain memories from who ever
he absorbs.
If he got his hands on any of the one of the two creatures and merge with them, he'll be unstoppable
You somehow made SCP-619 seem downright reasonable and friendly when compared to this horrific abomination. O~o
I hope you read this comment the creator of this video. You literally did a crazy video by doing this. The thing is one of my favorite movies. I have obsessed about it learnt everything about it even the special features and commentary so tell me what gave you the brilliant idea to do this, a master of artistry by doing this lol 🎉😂 I love this shit keep doing content like this, please
The face hugger gets chopped apart but it's acidic blood melts and kills the things facial cells and the thing cuddles away in pain.
I love these videos. I have a pretty interesting idea, though.
What if a facehugger attacked The Hulk? What about Deadpool? Superman?
Bizarre conversation topic but I'm in. Clearly the Thing would win out, it isn't so much an organism as an adaptive genetic material. So regardless what type of lifeform it encounters, it can assimilate and replicate it. The "Alien" organism is a highly structured macro lifeform.
So your not gonna do more backrooms?