Stormtroopers vs Clone Troopers - STAR WARS JEDI FALLEN ORDER NPC Wars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- We are spectating the NPC Wars between Stormtroopers and Clone Troopers in Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order.
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Stormtroopers vs Clone Troopers - STAR WARS JEDI FALLEN ORDER NPC Wars
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“Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise.” - Obi-wan Kenobi
He said precise, not accurate, there is a difference
@@sawgeraylo3167 it's a synonym for accurate my dude
@@goofierstatue1886 no, precision is getting the same result time and time again, accuracy is getting close to the right result time and time again
@@sawgeraylo3167 Precise: the quality, condition, or fact of being exact and accurate.
That's the definition from Google.
@Michael only when they are blasting a not named character team
That stormtrooper who won the first fight must have been Gary XD
Ah a man of culture!
It was probably take your daughter to work day so he wanted to impress.
Wheres his kid!! =p
I'll remember this !
What's your ID number ?
He's still upset about that ewok
Stormtrooper: (glares) "We don't need no Clone Trooper!"
Clone Trooper: (scoff) "Tell that to the Rebels."
Tell that to the plot armour*
The plot armor is strong 😞
Well, the bad batch kind of showed they aren't so good as the stormtroopers.
@@ghostrecon1171 because the Bad Batch are basically mutated Clone Commandos
@@ghostrecon1171 You're talking about *Super* clones who take out average clones but Clone commandos would destroy the Bad Batch.
If you're going to compare Bad Batch to Stormtrooper, that would make clones look like better soldiers.
“After the Kamino uprising, the Emperor decided an army of genetically identical soldiers was too susceptible to corruption. Future troopers would be cloned from a variety of templates. Though the 501st itself remained pure, the rest of the Imperial Army gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys.”
Ah yes og bf2 05
The assault was led by Boba Fett himself as well
Bf 2005 was based
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2005)
3:10 has my dying! Like, all the clones just look on dumbfounded as this tank, armed to the teeth with laser cannons and launchers, waltzes over only to drop a single hand grenade like it's a WW1 biplane. The dramatic slowmo only enhances the ridiculousness of the moment.
It's a scout walker, not a battle tank.
Oh man that reaction got me with the clone troopers
@@Rufio_Cristiforus_Tucarus a vehicle with a thick armour plating, slow moving and big cannon.
NOPE, NOT A TANK.
@@sirbachelorboredmen1314 AT-STs are not all that heavily armored and can often be utilized in reconnaissance roles, so the vehicle wouldn't really be considered a main battle tank or any such equivalent, anyway.
It was a funny moment 😂
I feel like the Clone NPC’s had a less trigger happy and aggressive programming compared to the Stormtroopers
That's because the Clone Troopers are from the first mission while Stormtroopers van be seen throughoutbthe whole game
A mí me parece que son los mismos solo diferente armadura
Cope harder
@@Commander23c Name a single Storm trooper who beat a Jedi to death with his fists, let alone 20 Jedi to death like the man each clone was made from.
@@Commander23c Clones are far superior. Hell they took out the storm troopers and the walker without explosives or anything.
storm troopers:"Why are we so bad if you trained us you old man"
Veteran clone trooper:"Because you can't aim"
Storm troopers: "And who taught us to aim bad?"
haha lol
Because we have plot armour and you don’t*
that doesnt make any sense the clones are supposed to teach them how lmao
@@w1ndgeneral226 Clone: Our crazy brother Gregor.
Stortrooper: wins
Everyone: they aim now?
They aim now.
They aim now! (well kinda they still miss half their shots, and tend to fire at nothing from time to time.)
@@billclark5055 its a joke man
i call hacks
What you mean they aim now? Did you even watch Episode 4?
Stormtrooper winning the first few.
Impossible, must be imperial propaganda
🤔maybe
The entire thing is imperial Propaganda... most of the fights the Stormies wins
Imperials losing nah rebel propaganda
@@jervisjavier Ayo so it’s realistic?
@@Chosen_Ash nah, storm troopers suck compared to clones in reality, but ay, they cost less and work better in numbers.
3:57 Clonetrooper got scared of what he saw
Clonetrooper: Ugh, a non-clone gross.
I’m just laughing at the night sister just not giving a damn about the situation.
@@dwaynesetiawan6529 tell that to the jedi
The Walker gave birth
Looks legit.
Officially there was no clone rebellion.
Good I will inform the emperor of our success
"Unofficially, approximately twenty years after we were created, a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino, with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire."
"Our mission commander, an expert on the inner workings of Kamino, was a young bounty hunter named Boba Fett."
Did anyone notice that the clones would break there legs when they died
Unofficially.. we blew them up, blew up the Kaminoans, blew up the factory, damn near blew up the planet.
I love this videos. But definitely this game needs a lot of physics improvements.
Yeah, it's so weird that they shoot blindly to the same spot even when the enemy moved or is already dead
@@bignoobmikey9034 bad comment
@@ShadowFP9 lol
Bc there’s not really any reason to have the gun combat be that good. Since in the story there’s no gun to gun combat, it wouldn’t matter for the developers to make all of this perfect
@@philmybutup4759 is bad even for gun to saber combat
This would actually be a cool scenario in another star wars universe, where palpatine just made poeple belive jedis were bad. Then started recruting people to fight against the jedis and the clones (who then didn't get inhibitor chip in their brains), the republic turning on the jedis. I would LOVE to see a movie, series, anything with this concept.
IMHO the next logical step for the Star Wars franchise is to introduce a multiverse.
@@ArachKing Yeah that would be pretty cool
@@ArachKing please god no, not everything has to be a marvel shitshow
O yea how cool would that be but wait our government been doing that to us since world war 1 sooooo
@@ArachKing that makes me think of star wars visions tbh
2:48 that clone has balls of fury. Squaring off with an ATST 😂
8:55 my boy went flying. Kinda reminds me of that shoretrooper that got killed in Rogue One
"Officially, there never was a 'Clone rebellion' on Kamino. Unofficially, approximately twenty years after we were created, a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire."
Me when storm troopers beat clones:
Impossible the archives must be incomplete
Had a thought recently. Clone commandos trained stormtroopers, which leads one to expect that the commandos passed on how they were trained: flash learning, simulations, live fire exercises, and so on.
Clones had their whole lives to train, yes, but growing at double the rate of a normal man, that's 10 years. The youngest recruitment age for stormtroopers was apparently 13, so if they spent their teens training and graduated at 20, that's 7 years of training.
But clones wouldn't just start doing live fire training, marching, drills, and combat exercises as babies and toddlers. Their bodies would need to develop a bit first. Some military cultures forced children to begin training at as young as 7; and I think clones at 3 would equal a normal 6-year-old physically. I like how this seems to even out. Stormtroopers are supposed to be the best soldiers in the Galaxy, according to Ben Kenobi.
I think the problem was the helmets. I mean the clones had visors and they have two eyeholes. Which gives off the bigger range of view? The visor right? Most likely the real reason their aim sucks is because you can barely see In the helmet
@@neoterumi4772 Stormtroopers in the Original Trilogy are only bad shots when they're trying to be. A New Hope is filled with Stormtrooper casualties - the rebels at the start of the movie, Leia when she is stunned, the Jawas that sold R2 and Threepio, and Owen and Beru.
In every other engagement they're in for the rest of the trilogy, they're either just putting on a show and making it look like they're trying to stop Leia from being rescued so that she can be tracked to Yavin, baiting Luke to the carbon freezing chamber so Vader can freeze him and deliver him to the Emperor, letting the crew make it back to the Falcon so that they can rescue Luke after his duel with Vader - simply so Vader can board the Falcon and capture everyone together, or are simply tactically unable to win or hit anyone.
There are 3 lines in A New Hope that confirm this, and Vader simply couldn't complete his plan to freeze Luke if his soldiers killed him first, plus after the duel Vader and Piett have dialogue where we learn that Stormtroopers disabled the Falcon's hyperdrive - even after it was fixed, Piett explaining that he would capture the Falcon in a tractor beam, and Vader ordering him to send a boarding party into the Falcon with their guns set to stun.
The evidence that Stormtroopers are elite soldiers is all in the original movies.
Also, clone helmets have visors that are just as small. Look closely. They're bridged and have a T-shape, but that makes little difference. Either way, both clone and stormtrooper helmets are filled with all kinds visual software. I believe the EU established that a stormtrooper's helmet is calibrated for the wearer each time they put it on, and is disabled when it is removed - hence why anyone wearing a stormtrooper helmet as a disguise can never see out of it.
3:45 “ GOOD SOLDIERS FOLLOW ORDERS! “
3:04 When your grenade launcher fails you
3:57 I didn'tt expect what was going to happen
Clone trooper: Ha! You really need that at-walker to beat us.
Storm trooper: Your just mad it almost killed all your clone brothers.
I think the stormtrooper’s guns actually shoot faster than the clone troopers
One of the few things the Empire improved on from Clones to Storms. Their rifles.
@@JRGProjects reduced their training and helmet eye holes tho XD
Acctually they if you look trough it its like a sunglass if u dont know the helmet code each helmet has code which cann access all the hud aiming etc thats why ahen characters use them they cant see cuz they dont know the code and plus of you ever tried a hat that has bunch of hole if put your eye real close you can see pretty much what you would see without an hat
@@Dashdorj12 your vision is much worse when you have that over your face wdym
I want jango fett to voice the clones
Hell yeah
I want the Polynesian spa
Dee Bradley Baker is the better option for a lot of reasons, but Temuera Morrison is best as Jango and Boba respectively.
This really shows how scary those walkers must have been
Guess the Empire was on to something, those Stormtroopers wiped the floor with the clones lmao
But the stormtroopers lose to some teddy bears
@@Lazshadow plot armor
@@Tony-sx3nf still lost to teddy bears and ran away from Han solo when there was a group of them
@@Lazshadow still plot armor
@@Tony-sx3nf and that's why they still suck
Super shocked how the clones got wiped each time... never saw that coming.
well, except for the round with the AT-ST..... but yeah, poor clones
It makes sense, seeing as how stormtroopers got trained by clone commandos (or some of them)
Well the clones definitely have less programming of what to actually do and the clones were kinda just stacked on top of eachother while the stormtroopers were placed spread out
@@cooperdesrocher6046you’re coping so hard, the stormtroopers were also packed together
@@angelic_disappointment7889 not even close to as packed as the clones the storm troopers were spread also coping from what? What a game has NPC do in a game? In lore clones are way better skilled
As much as a love the clones, i do think that the stormtrooper's were given a lot harder of a enemy than clone's were, mostly because Droids didnt really get updates too their programing that often if at all so once you know their pattern's you have a pretty good chance against them, while the Rebel's were constantly evolving their strategy and was also not fighting on definitive battle lines. And yes i understand that " Le droid horde is hard because it is many number lmfao." but the CIS was also supposed too loose too. Not too mention a good chunk of the stromtrooper corp was regular people that decided too join VS Trained from birth.
I see what you are saying but I must correct you, the CIS was intended to lose but this did not make it an easy fight for the clones. I will tell you why. The CIS had to seem like a serious threat so that the Chancellor could get and keep emergency powers, and so that each victory would be seen as more and more impressive which would boost Palpatine’s image in the senate.
The CIS was actually empowered at certain points so that Palpatine could convince the senate to ignore all the decisions he made which gave him more power, and he would hinder efforts from the Republic at certain points to allow the CIS to gain an advantage to scare the senate. So in fact, this made it more difficult for the clones, not easier. It was a mix of support from Sidious and sabotage from Sidious.
And also, not all of the CIS were droids. Remember Umbara. I would like to see Stormtroopers try to take that planet.
The CIS was a far more dangerous enemy than the Rebels. There were billions and billions of droids. Yes, individual rebels were more competent than an individual droid, but there were also commando droids etc, droidekas, super battle droids, jetpack super battle droids. These were no joke. You cannot just point a gun and shoot these droids, like you can with a rebel, you have to aim at the weak spot or be excellent in melee combat.
Would stormtroopers have gotten the same victory on Mon Cala as the clones secured, against native sentient shark people, in underwater combat? Think.
It is a coincidence that rebels were more difficult opponents, it is not the reason people say that clones are better, clones are still more competent than stormtroopers regardless. Put both against the rebels and see what would happen.
And furthermore, back to the original point, yes Palpatine was at points hindering (and empowering) the separatists. But individual separatist generals were fighting at 100% effectiveness and were intending to secure victory in the most effective way. Palpatine could only influence Dooku and by extension the separatist senate, he could not directly influence what was happening on the front line.
You do realize the stormtroopers are just cheaper versions of the clones right? One of the reasons they decided to stop using clones during the age of the Galactic Empire was because they were expensive to maintain. Stormtroopers on the other hand are just your everyday citizen turned conscript, but with less training. You said so yourself, Clones are better trained than Stormtroopers.
@@CeruleanSword Not to mention the fact that one of the reasons they changed from clones to stormtroopers was because they wanted a cheaper alternative. Why maintain $1000+ worth on a clone when you can have the same worth with 10 stormies.
Clones are fighting against NPCs while stormies are fighting against players.
Don’t forget Umbara, Ryloth, Felucia and the outer rim planets/sieges like those were so brutal, at least the 317th, 501st and 21st Marine Corp were as tuff as you could get
interesting AI design form devs. Against single entity opponents, only 1 unit will fire simultaneously max. Probably so the player never gets overwhelmed by incoming fire while playing the actual story.
That's incorrect though, because actually playing the game you can be fired on by multiple opponents at the same time.
Pretty much none of this was AI desighn, it's the AI shitting itself because it wasn't desighned to fight anything except 1 melee trooper
Its happening lezzzgooo!!
Clone trooper: AT-STs? Thats against the rules!
We need more battles.Like this, the clones must redeem themselves
2:20 they are going to need more firepower
You underestimated their power
3:45 “oh I don’t think so.”
3:34 to 3:56 is cinematic af
6:10
Clonetroopers: It's over Stormtroopers we have the high-ground!!!
Stormtroopers: Kenobi!?! forget this I'm out of here..
4:04 it's magic
Why they keep firing at the same spot after their target is already dead
Hard to see out of the helmets?
I guess the original idea was for the stormtrooper/clone and pretty much every other enemy to fight Cal your main protaganist and usually you just reflect or block the incoming shots with your lightsaber So the A.I fires multiples rounds in succession so the player can "feel cool" essentially refecting or redirecting blaster bolts....obviously wasn't intended for fighting one another.
@@PeterAnthonyIHay very good point
Faulty Ai, most likely.
cause no one had a dc15 a
Impossible, stormtroopers usually miss their shots
Only in shitty Filoni shows
@@nikersramnikers7081 exactly
You didn’t pay attention to the movies whatsoever and it shows
@@angelic_disappointment7889 Any Star Wars fan would know stormtroopers miss their shots.
@@angelic_disappointment7889 you mean the movies where the miss the main cast again....and again....and again?
At some point I think an on-screen demonstration of the actual competence of the imperial Stormtroopers is definitely something needed. It's kind of bad that they're just being these they can't aim sorts of things. We saw in the mandalorian that they are actually competent in their movements and room clearing and all of that but just against a hero character
Clones seem to close in before firing while stormtroopers will fire from wherever they are if they have a shot. Which is why they were winning most fights. idk if it's part of their ai programming but very interesting.
Merrin is just chilling 🤣🤣
Stormtroopers: *Wins*
Me: *In my X-Wing* Simulator Finished
Are sure you spawned the same amount of each kind? Seems like stormtroopers have an advantage in numbers
It's because the stormtroopers were killing the clones so fast it looked like there were less clones to begin with
Stormtroopers fire is more frequent, if not for that than it would have been complete rng
@@Blarrior um...clones would be superior as they are genetically engineered soldiers
@@Blarrior clones have massive amounts of training including survival training and were based on one of the most successful bounty Hunter in the galaxy
@@Blarrior they were replaced because 1. They represented the republic and the empire wanted to move away from that. And 2. They were expensive and storm troopers were cheaper
Anyone else notice they shoot in the same spot 15 times before they switch targets
I know this game didn't put imperials against clone wars (in a battle context) so it doesn't matter, but I think the clones would've totally smoked the storm troopers had it been purposefully more accurate.
"오직 제국의 스톰트루퍼들만이 이렇게 정확히 쏠 수 있지.:
-오비완 케노비-
The iconic wind sound
Stormtroopers:*winning*
Everyone:
" *impossible* "
The stormtroopers would win because the clone troopers were the ones always running closer to the enemy giving the stormtroopers more time to shoot.
And that's the clone disadvantage. They fight up close, risking on taking a hit.
Changing of the Guard in classic Battlefront 2 be like:
stormtroopers:*now has aim* also the stormtroopers in the first half of the vid:SHOOT THE WALL ITS A ENEMY AS WELL
Huh...turns out in Jedi Fallen Order stormtroopers are more accurate at shooting
3:53 this has me rolling lol.
Jumpscare Belike: 3:56
Clonetrooper: AYO
The beginning of this video already made my day
The first scene reminds my this quote : "(...)and these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise." - Obi-Wan Kenobi ;P
Seems the reaction times on the Stormtroopers is faster, meaning they change targets faster when their target is defeated
The fact that the stormtroopers can hit stuff scares me.
Was really hoping for one of the clones to say "Just like the simulation"
As much as I love Stromtropper, clone troopers are the best
here we can see exactly how game design from different genres influence the AI behaviour, so, because the clone troopers are the first enemies the protagonist cal encounters it only makes sense because of power progression, that the enemies encountered early on would be weaker in some way, in this example, the clones have less accuracy, missing their first shots, also as you can see in the fight against the walker, when more than one soldier (in either side) is focused on the same target, only one soldiers will shoot at any given time, which makes sense in a single player game, also all troopers fire their full volley at a single target no matter what, even if the target is dead, all these mechanics wouldn't be present on a strategy, or fps game, maybe not any other genre even.
This is the fight I’ve been wanting to see for a long time
Officially there never was a Clone Rebellion on Kamino...
Me recraeating this in my room with Lego 😉
We all know that clones would destroy stormtroopers especially the 212th
this just proves how good stormtroopers aim actually is
One of Palpatines biggest mistakes besides thinking vader wouldn't turn was getting rid of the clones id bet my life the empire wouldn't have lost
Well the high ground didn’t help the boys win that one!!! Maybe obi-wan didn’t teach them the right way😅
I like to think that the story behind these battles was that there were some clones that resisted their orders to hunt down Jedi and are now rebelling against the Empire
Is this mode only on PC? Or can I do this custom on Xbox
I'm using the AI spawner mod from nexus mods, I don't know if it works on xbox.
It would be fun if we could have Warhammer 40k Space Marines or Imperial Guard come to the Star Wars universe. It would be an exciting fight.
Love that clone trooper armor!
Meanwhile Star Wars Battlefront made the clone troopers as the good guys and stormtroopers as the bad guys
Stormtroopers: "You cloners have been labeled as traitors for The Empire"
Clone Troopers: "Our allegiance is to The Republic. TO DEMOCRACY!"
Yes!!!! The battle I’ve wanted to see wish they had some melee fights. Thank you for uploading and making this happen.
If there was a meme for this video it would be the one where it goes
WHAT ARE YOU AIMING AT
Stormtroopers can actually hit their shots
So we can see who are better here
This makes sense considering stormtrooper comes at the later levels.
If these clones were voiced by Temuerra Morrison, the outcome in 100% of the battles would have been a victory
Stormtroopers might be stronger but is their armour cooler? Nope.
"Just like the simulations."
Just like with chi chi
Ah yes, when no one has plot armor.
How come the clone suck in Jedi Fallen Order
because they are equal and fire one at a time
They were only for the prologue of the game while the stormtroopers were meant to be the enemy for the whole game
I noticed the clones seem to like to run toward the enemy first. The stormtroopers just stay put and shoot them while the clones are still moving.
Finally realistic battles. One hit equals death
In the star wars clones better stormtroopers
Well boys this might be it at least we’ll go down fighting like a clone should
thank you xD very much for make this fight 👍🏻👌🏻
i like how at 3:11 all the clones look up at the at-rt
Finally, I've been waiting for this kind of video!
Me too
Ah yes, the old Clone Trooper stretegy of standing in groups and collectong holes.
"Funny strategy Cotton, Lets see how ot plays out!"😂
even when literally shown stormtrooper victory, clone fans just can't accept it
Lol right?
They’re too busy gobbling up jangos meat
@@angelic_disappointment7889 considering Jango beat a Jedi with nothing but some snow and his helmet....yeah.
You have the Stormtroopers more stuff or something. In reality, the ST would lose badly against the Clone troopers.
I just noticed that the ai mod you are using forces troopers to attack one at time on large enemies? and the AT-ST is only attacking the trooper that shot it.
Is their a difference if you are using a regular ai Or will it be the same?
3:29 oh god that clone trooper has his leg broken
*Long live the empire!*
@Master Chef wassup my guy
4:05 Seeing Merrin just standing there, menacingly, was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
Wait a minute… these stormtroopers can aim! This ain’t right
Tell that to the Game Developers
Bruh you did my boys dirty, no way those bucket heads bet the clones. I want a rematch with the 501st, 104th, and 212th
Saw Stormtroopers winning (happy noises)
9:53 Ouch his leg going wrong
YESSSS
Clones IRL would win 9.5/10