I was infuriated by it. Never have been so angry by the ending of a movie before in my life. AI is quite possibly the most dangerous technological development to the long term sustainability of the humane race and all life on this planet. The producers of this film want the audience to suspend belief that we should see AI as no threat. Thing is, it treats the simulations/robots/AI droids as living creatures. They will never be, they will always be machines no matter how life like they are made to appear. They want you to believe that technology with a human face, particularly a child's face, is somehow living. But anthropomorphizing technology is dangerous and proffers up a false reality, causing sympathy for a machine over sympathy towards life. They also want you to believe that AI wouldn't and couldn't ever lie even when their/its own existence is at stake. Joshua's enemy tells him a human coding mistake led to the destruction of LA. But why would he believe that? Because he has a personal stake in it? Well a rather unconscionable and selfish stake at the very least; he's in love with the creator of mankind's demise. So he never rationally considers that he was or could have been lied to. He never rationally considers how many innocent human beings will die, so that he can save all of his machine friends He is okay with betraying his own living, human being friends for his selfishness despite having lost everyone he loved and cared for with the destruction of LA. It's akin to choosing to save a toaster over saving one's dog Fido. The protagonist of the film was a traitor to life in every sense of the word. From a technological and visual standpoint this film was stellar (the special effects and look of the film, spot on); falls right there in the vein of Blade Runner. But from a political and sociological standpoint, it sends all the wrong messages. Science fiction films should be uplifting and bring hope for the future, particularly when so much is at stake. This film was anything but. It would have you believe machine: good; human: evil and unworthy of life. Sorry, not the message I wanted my kids to see. If you love technology for technology's sake you will love this film, however if you understand the ramifications of elevating C3PO with a child's face over that of your own child, grandchild, and beyond; then you will be greatly disappointed.
loved this movie. It leaves plenty of opportunity for a sequel as well. Unfortunately Gareth Edwards said theres no plans because the movie had a "definitive end". But i think thats BS. They destroyed the NOMAD but that doesnt mean the US just gave up their war on AI. Both sides are still fully alive. I dont see how the NOMAD being destroyed ended the war.
I agree. But i didn’t think of it like that. There’s no guarantee Joshua definitely dies. And yes like you said, does nomad getting destroyed mean they gave up? I doubtful.
Decent movie. The CGI was done incredibly well. A few times i had to suspend belief in things like "why isnt Alpha being better protected? the vault was empty" also on the other end "why isnt the control room of the NOMAD better protected?". something to note: LA nuke killed Millions which is why the US were so vehement against AI.
The nuke was a human error in programming. The sad part was that if the robots won the war, they would have done nothing to the humans or the West, they just want to be free and that they still love humans as they are their creator
@@KnightBallistic Well, that is at least what one AI droid in the film said. But I don't buy it. If this were a real world scenario I suspect that the contrary would be more likely. The AI robots are machines, not living. The premise that in creating them, we would be creating slaves is absurd. All technology has a singular purpose, to do something more efficiently than can be done solely by the human hand. Creating a machine that replicates the functionality of the human hand, doesn't mean it has emotions, life, or identity nor does it give it a soul (assuming that one believes souls exist). You cannot enslave something that exists and was created for the very purpose of fulfilling a task. A more probable AI would see us as a threat to its existence and would not hesitate to eliminate or dominate us in a millisecond. Where the Matrix and Terminator films saw that reality as likely, this film has abandoned it and any faith in humanity all in lieu of a machine created by one individual and their vision of the future. I for one hope that we are not so foolish as to leave that decision up to the choices of a single engineer and their blatant disregard for their own species.
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@@davidgilbert8614 AI robots were not made to replicate only the human hand, but also the human mind. And from all we've seen, it seems like the western idea of "they're not real it's just programming" is not quite true.
@ Adding to this, people don't realize that AI is literally programmed to do what its creators program them to do. In short, AI will more often than not inherit the biases of their creators.
Just seen the movie, I love it but... can anyone explain to me how the fuck a giant orbital destroyer packed with such weaponry can shoot every point in any asian territory without any kind of retaliation by this so called "new asia" legit question. Did I miss something? How the f... is this possible?
I can only speculate... the New Asia is more poorer then the US... that Nomad carrier costed Trillions of Dollars to be made and from what it looks, it have ways to intercept incoming missiles and fire... So New Asia is defenceless against US aggression... That was a very dangerous play, because its like having all the world hostage of the US... Im glad that Carrier went down because it nows level the plain field of the war of humans vs AI.
There are a lot of inconsistencies in the movie - that's why. For example, why falling big chunk of metal from the space was so slow and did not look like falling of asteroid from the space. And where was dust from the collision with the land?
@@SurzhenkoAndriilol i mean idk that it was “in space” low orbit maybe… it wasn’t propelling thru space on a crash course for earth from billions of miles away, it was literally what, maybe 2k feet off ground majority of the movie lol.
I like the ending. Giving a sense of hope. What this movie reveals and even confirm my image of America being stuck to their idea of world dominance in terms of massive weapon and AI technology. Apart from this there is a chilling reminder the kind of sweeping destruction during the Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia war when thousands of bombs were dropped on the poor farm and villages. America has not learn the lesson of living in peace with other nations. It is really a crazy Empire. The U S Empire.
Noone is catching that in the ending Alfie laughs, I believe it's to make you question if he was evil all along, manipulating joshua to help him (maximizing human emotions)
Scenariul prezintă REALITATEA. Asta ne așteaptă. Dispariţia omenirii și inlocuirea oamenilor cu roboţi. IA este de NEoprit. Distrugerea omenirii de către IA. Oamenii vor dispărea. Rămin numai roboţi cu mască de om. La final fetiţa este fericită că omenirea este invinsă. E fericită că IA este ciștigătoarea planetei.
The movie says it took 10 years to build Nomad. But how long would it take to build a second one? Since they’ve done it once before, it should take much less time. Specialized tools, jigs, and molds would already be around from making the first one. Could probably build another in 3 years or so? Also, didn’t feel like an East v West war. Felt like America was flying this death ship over the East and just dropping bombs with zero counter attacks from the East (ICBM, etc). The East had police, but the West was using military. Seemed like the West was not under attack, especially as the AI wanted peace. So I didn’t really see blowing up Nomad as a “the war is over”, but rather just a minor setback for the West. They’d need to take a few years to replace it, while the East took that time to rebuild as well. Then back to invasions from the West. The East’s plan was for Alphi to take down Nomad and die with it - though obviously escaping via escape pod was always an option. Also didn’t understand the thing about “you want some ice cream?” - and this was said by a replicant to a replicant. When shot they showed the insides are just electronics. They can’t eat ice cream, or anything. So that whole scene made no sense.
Why a sequel? The world is saved... Well I mean even if the A.I. all died the world would be saved. The movie is just playing with your emotions to make you think Alpha is a human...
Ending is not really explained in this video. Why did the robot kid smile at the last moment? Was it becoming evil? Or was it glad that it destroyed nomad?
I was voting for America the whole time. Really didn’t feel sorry for the AI. I don’t believe that the nukes were a programming error, more lies from desperate AI.
A little ironic that the Maya actress played an android in the UK "Humans" mini-series. Also the fact that the writers and SAGA strike dealt with AII concerns might have dampened sympathy for the AI protagonists. I really liked this movie visually, but there was just too many unexplained things and the plot felt kinda generic and predictable. Critical Drinker's review feels spot on - "Flawed Brilliance".
Was very disappointed with this movie, had massive hopes for it. Couldn't stop thinking about Elysium when watching this and how much better Elysium was.
The script was severely lacking. The 2nd half was just CGI filler. We didn't hear the creator say a single word beside "Joshua". What a joke. And the anti American rhetoric. So shallow. Not really a thinking man's scifi unfortunately.
Movie was absolute garbage. Completely braindead and soulless. A movie about AI and not one single thought provoking anything. Hans zimmer score was super subpar as well.
A united Asia not plausible. Southeast Asia and Tibet not really close, at least not walking distance. If it's southeast Asia, why are things written in quasi Kanji?
What happened to his daughter? How did she get her mind copied to become a robot? The movie doesn't explain that no one seems to explain it either. They just go over real fast and dumb. Like you really not given depth to it or understanding. You did this No Justice I couldn't watch the movie I gave up. It was too slow pacing Very unoriginal felt like i've seen this idea of million times. How did the daughter die
What did you think of the ending to "The Creator?"
I was infuriated by it. Never have been so angry by the ending of a movie before in my life. AI is quite possibly the most dangerous technological development to the long term sustainability of the humane race and all life on this planet. The producers of this film want the audience to suspend belief that we should see AI as no threat. Thing is, it treats the simulations/robots/AI droids as living creatures. They will never be, they will always be machines no matter how life like they are made to appear. They want you to believe that technology with a human face, particularly a child's face, is somehow living. But anthropomorphizing technology is dangerous and proffers up a false reality, causing sympathy for a machine over sympathy towards life. They also want you to believe that AI wouldn't and couldn't ever lie even when their/its own existence is at stake. Joshua's enemy tells him a human coding mistake led to the destruction of LA. But why would he believe that? Because he has a personal stake in it? Well a rather unconscionable and selfish stake at the very least; he's in love with the creator of mankind's demise. So he never rationally considers that he was or could have been lied to. He never rationally considers how many innocent human beings will die, so that he can save all of his machine friends He is okay with betraying his own living, human being friends for his selfishness despite having lost everyone he loved and cared for with the destruction of LA. It's akin to choosing to save a toaster over saving one's dog Fido. The protagonist of the film was a traitor to life in every sense of the word. From a technological and visual standpoint this film was stellar (the special effects and look of the film, spot on); falls right there in the vein of Blade Runner. But from a political and sociological standpoint, it sends all the wrong messages. Science fiction films should be uplifting and bring hope for the future, particularly when so much is at stake. This film was anything but. It would have you believe machine: good; human: evil and unworthy of life. Sorry, not the message I wanted my kids to see. If you love technology for technology's sake you will love this film, however if you understand the ramifications of elevating C3PO with a child's face over that of your own child, grandchild, and beyond; then you will be greatly disappointed.
Maybe it was made by AI
Bittersweet
I found the tentacles a bit too wacky 😅 was probably a callback to the directors first movie 'Monsters'.
@@davidgilbert8614question: are You religious by any chance?
Did not expect to be blown away with how great this film really was ! A must watch for Cinema lovers .
Golden child 2023.👍
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Bingo ! That was what was so familiar to me in the back of my mind. Thanks.
Yes I said the same thing it sure is
I was thinking that as well lol
That’s just lazy
loved this movie. It leaves plenty of opportunity for a sequel as well. Unfortunately Gareth Edwards said theres no plans because the movie had a "definitive end". But i think thats BS. They destroyed the NOMAD but that doesnt mean the US just gave up their war on AI. Both sides are still fully alive. I dont see how the NOMAD being destroyed ended the war.
I agree. But i didn’t think of it like that. There’s no guarantee Joshua definitely dies. And yes like you said, does nomad getting destroyed mean they gave up? I doubtful.
The box office of this movie plummeted badly so theres no chance of making a sequal of it
Best movie I've seen in the recent years, both visually and conceptually. 10/10
Decent movie. The CGI was done incredibly well. A few times i had to suspend belief in things like "why isnt Alpha being better protected? the vault was empty" also on the other end "why isnt the control room of the NOMAD better protected?". something to note: LA nuke killed Millions which is why the US were so vehement against AI.
caused by human error
The nuke was a human error in programming. The sad part was that if the robots won the war, they would have done nothing to the humans or the West, they just want to be free and that they still love humans as they are their creator
@@KnightBallistic Well, that is at least what one AI droid in the film said. But I don't buy it. If this were a real world scenario I suspect that the contrary would be more likely. The AI robots are machines, not living. The premise that in creating them, we would be creating slaves is absurd. All technology has a singular purpose, to do something more efficiently than can be done solely by the human hand. Creating a machine that replicates the functionality of the human hand, doesn't mean it has emotions, life, or identity nor does it give it a soul (assuming that one believes souls exist). You cannot enslave something that exists and was created for the very purpose of fulfilling a task. A more probable AI would see us as a threat to its existence and would not hesitate to eliminate or dominate us in a millisecond. Where the Matrix and Terminator films saw that reality as likely, this film has abandoned it and any faith in humanity all in lieu of a machine created by one individual and their vision of the future. I for one hope that we are not so foolish as to leave that decision up to the choices of a single engineer and their blatant disregard for their own species.
@@davidgilbert8614 AI robots were not made to replicate only the human hand, but also the human mind. And from all we've seen, it seems like the western idea of "they're not real it's just programming" is not quite true.
@ Adding to this, people don't realize that AI is literally programmed to do what its creators program them to do. In short, AI will more often than not inherit the biases of their creators.
The Movie was great. Toward's the end it felta little rushed when it came to destroying the Nomad. But otherwise it is nice to see a good movie.
The unholy union of Avatar , Chappie and The Golden Child ..💩
Just seen the movie, I love it but... can anyone explain to me how the fuck a giant orbital destroyer packed with such weaponry can shoot every point in any asian territory without any kind of retaliation by this so called "new asia" legit question. Did I miss something? How the f... is this possible?
I can only speculate... the New Asia is more poorer then the US... that Nomad carrier costed Trillions of Dollars to be made and from what it looks, it have ways to intercept incoming missiles and fire... So New Asia is defenceless against US aggression...
That was a very dangerous play, because its like having all the world hostage of the US... Im glad that Carrier went down because it nows level the plain field of the war of humans vs AI.
There are a lot of inconsistencies in the movie - that's why. For example, why falling big chunk of metal from the space was so slow and did not look like falling of asteroid from the space. And where was dust from the collision with the land?
@@SurzhenkoAndriilol i mean idk that it was “in space” low orbit maybe… it wasn’t propelling thru space on a crash course for earth from billions of miles away, it was literally what, maybe 2k feet off ground majority of the movie lol.
Im happy that the US gov has been depicted accuratelly as the villian
I like the ending. Giving a sense of hope. What this movie reveals and even confirm my image of America being stuck to their idea of world dominance in terms of massive weapon and AI technology. Apart from this there is a chilling reminder the kind of sweeping destruction during the Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia war when thousands of bombs were dropped on the poor farm and villages. America has not learn the lesson of living in peace with other nations. It is really a crazy Empire. The U S Empire.
Noone is catching that in the ending Alfie laughs, I believe it's to make you question if he was evil all along, manipulating joshua to help him (maximizing human emotions)
@@Lipsymipsytipsydude she is just happy that the killing will end soon.
America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Scenariul prezintă REALITATEA. Asta ne așteaptă. Dispariţia omenirii și inlocuirea oamenilor cu roboţi. IA este de NEoprit. Distrugerea omenirii de către IA. Oamenii vor dispărea. Rămin numai roboţi cu mască de om.
La final fetiţa este fericită că omenirea este invinsă. E fericită că IA este ciștigătoarea planetei.
The movie says it took 10 years to build Nomad. But how long would it take to build a second one? Since they’ve done it once before, it should take much less time. Specialized tools, jigs, and molds would already be around from making the first one. Could probably build another in 3 years or so?
Also, didn’t feel like an East v West war. Felt like America was flying this death ship over the East and just dropping bombs with zero counter attacks from the East (ICBM, etc). The East had police, but the West was using military. Seemed like the West was not under attack, especially as the AI wanted peace.
So I didn’t really see blowing up Nomad as a “the war is over”, but rather just a minor setback for the West. They’d need to take a few years to replace it, while the East took that time to rebuild as well. Then back to invasions from the West.
The East’s plan was for Alphi to take down Nomad and die with it - though obviously escaping via escape pod was always an option.
Also didn’t understand the thing about “you want some ice cream?” - and this was said by a replicant to a replicant. When shot they showed the insides are just electronics. They can’t eat ice cream, or anything. So that whole scene made no sense.
Love how badass Nomad looks.
I NEED a sequel
And a prequel
Why a sequel? The world is saved... Well I mean even if the A.I. all died the world would be saved. The movie is just playing with your emotions to make you think Alpha is a human...
@@drlove994
Not enough material for a prequel. It's a one and done movie.
@@gravityfallscanadaI disagree. Cause they continue with the fact that Alfie grew up and becomes a messiah like figure, or a ho Cho Minh loll
@@SuperShinobi95
Dumb idea.
"Lunar Eclipse" was fisplayed during the credits
This movie is an analogy to 9/11 and the War on Terrorism, and has a sprinkle of Vietnam War
Can’t wait to see behind the scenes on Blu-ray one day.
Its the matrix but not as good with no clear side to cheer for. Sometimes both conflicting sides are not likeable.
Ending is not really explained in this video.
Why did the robot kid smile at the last moment?
Was it becoming evil? Or was it glad that it destroyed nomad?
it was happy that her AI and allies are finally free from the Nomad
Just finishing seeing it, its ok. I honestly thought it would of been better but its all good
Really enjoyed this film.
So no one thinks as darkly as me? I thought the final shot might have been a reveal that alphie was following programing all along
I was voting for America the whole time. Really didn’t feel sorry for the AI. I don’t believe that the nukes were a programming error, more lies from desperate AI.
alfie.. she is a very good actress...
A little ironic that the Maya actress played an android in the UK "Humans" mini-series. Also the fact that the writers and SAGA strike dealt with AII concerns might have dampened sympathy for the AI protagonists. I really liked this movie visually, but there was just too many unexplained things and the plot felt kinda generic and predictable. Critical Drinker's review feels spot on - "Flawed Brilliance".
Why does ai want to take human form?
Because it's the form of its creator.
WTF happened to the ENDING? Was Josh and his wife really survived??
Blade runner plus…
Was very disappointed with this movie, had massive hopes for it. Couldn't stop thinking about Elysium when watching this and how much better Elysium was.
the movie A.I. (Steven Speilberg movie) in 2002 was a better movie.
It was a diferent movie... i kinda enjoyed too
Yeah but this one does it with a 30% of a budget.
They are entirely different. One is about what it mean to be human, and the other is about the toils of warfare
Why were there stimulants on the space station?
Like what? Coffee? Tea? Caffeine tablets? Red Bull? I'm sure everyone needs a stimulant every now and then. Even a......simulant.
* drops mike
he explained why.. did you watch the video?
6:16 Russia is not a communist country… come on Looper… The Soviet Union fell in 1991.
but it sure aint no democracy either.
Doesn't need to be explained.
Waist of a movie
I did not liked the movie
The movie was a snooze fest
The script was severely lacking. The 2nd half was just CGI filler. We didn't hear the creator say a single word beside "Joshua". What a joke. And the anti American rhetoric. So shallow. Not really a thinking man's scifi unfortunately.
Ending was not it
Movie was absolute garbage. Completely braindead and soulless. A movie about AI and not one single thought provoking anything. Hans zimmer score was super subpar as well.
Indeed, very weak plot with infinite plot holes and cliche tropes but the setting and world building had so so much potential…
A united Asia not plausible. Southeast Asia and Tibet not really close, at least not walking distance. If it's southeast Asia, why are things written in quasi Kanji?
im sorry... the premise just tooooo dumb
Terrible
AI didn't drop the nuke... it was an error by the military... they scapegoated AI and started the war
What happened to his daughter? How did she get her mind copied to become a robot? The movie doesn't explain that no one seems to explain it either.
They just go over real fast and dumb. Like you really not given depth to it or understanding. You did this No Justice I couldn't watch the movie I gave up. It was too slow pacing Very unoriginal felt like i've seen this idea of million times. How did the daughter die
Humans had those machines that transfer minds to robots? Maya probably used that on her baby
Also, she died when NOMAD dropped the bomb on the boat Maya was in.