Trevor Lawrence health update + What should the NFL do to prevent this in the future? | First Take
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2024
- Dan Orlovsky, Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharpe join Molly Qerim on First Take to provide an update on Jacksonville Jaguars QB Trevor Lawrence's health after a late hit from Azeez Al-Shaair. They also debate what the NFL should do in reaction to Al-Shaair's hit.
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Shout out Evan for laying Azeez out like that.
@@ArianaDeJean shout out Azeez for laying Trevor out like that.
Screw the ref for throwing the flag on Evan Ingram
Assulting another player after the play? Yeah such a classy player 😂
@@jsidkfncjfdldld Throwing a forearm to the head, what a classy player 😂
@@AlexCruz-nf9zogo watch tennis or golf. Clearly clutching your pearls 😂
If a player causes injury maliciously like this, I truly believe that player should be suspended for as long as the injured player cannot play. All those game checks erased. That needs to be the rule.
Agreed. Heard this in a bar a while back and I think it’s warranted.
lol malicious. Don’t think yall know what that word means.
@@table2187 Knowingly putting someone's life at risk seems malicious. What's your definition?
@@table2187 characterized by malice; intending or intended to do harm..... If leading into a sliding player with your forearm extended out towards his head isn't malicious, then maybe you aren't clear on that word either. ALSO NOTE : He had a forearm Brace on that arm - stiffening it further and making it in my opinion far worse. Trevor went straight into fencing posture after the hit, which is not good at all. This is bad form for the league period. I agree with the guys above - suspended as long as the player injured is on IR. Loss of Pay. Make it an example of "don't do this" - period.
That wasn't malicious.
Such a different show when Shannon is in studio
On the real
He’s the best sports analyst honestly
Facts
Yes, it's so much better
Finally feels like SAS not the biggest and baddest in the room like he acts😂
The brace being on the arm that he lead with Is a great point
He didn’t hit him in the head😂
What do you want him to use? His pecker?
@@legless4767 What?
Thank the Lord Trev is okay!💙💙🙏🙏
Make the fake slide an Illegal play & a 15 yard penalty. That way defenders know when a QB slides, its not a fake, and they aren't second guessing in the moment.
The Mahomes special
Yep that’s probably the best option. No more Mahomes abusing the system.
Thanks Bro common sense
@@NewtBannner 😂
100% agreed. I was watching that Patrick McHomes play realtime when it happened. As a defensive player I would have got him back on the next play. Pullin those types of stunts takes advantage of all the rules to protect these QBs. Fake slides and faking going out of bounds should be penalties.
The replay looks worse every time I see it
It was a clean hit
@@legless4767THANK YOU. Defenders aren’t even allowed to hit anybody anymore
I like the fact his teamates wasted no time throwing blows for him.
@@legless4767You have to be trolling
@@Bama20512 Like when the Chiefs played the 49ers and Mahomes was skipping down the sideline, faking to run out of bounds. Players are scared to hit QBs now due to all the protection they have.
QB's shouldn't be allowed to slide. Many of them do this baseball slide giving themselves up and it puts them in a vulnerable position for all kinds of hits (big and small). Then there's other QB's like Mahomes who dart in and around on some scrambles and then he also slides sometimes and guys don't know if they should be hitting him or not. The "slide" puts defenders in a bad position because they're trying to hit a guy not knowing if he's going to give himself up or not. With all of that said, the hit on Sunshine yesterday played out about as dirty as it gets.
Sliding wasn’t the issue though. The issue was the late and dirty hit after he slid and he led with the elbow. The slide is to protect the QB because they are giving themselves up. I agree the position isn’t the best but idk how else you want them to go about it. He had 4 or so yards to decide whether to hit him late or not and he hit him.
I don't see a huge problem ... he should have slide earlier in my humble opinion 🤷
Did Trevor not slide late or am I tripping?
Trevor’s teammates knew instantly what had taken place. They didn’t need multiple angle replays in slow-motion to know what was going on. That should speak volumes. It was a highly intentional dirty hit, led with a forearm that was encased in a brace. If it isn’t heavily punished, then we should stop pretending this is a sport, and go straight to gladiator matches.
One game suspension..
That's why they don't stop doing this..
Shouldn’t be a one game suspension. Clean hit
They get paid millions of dollars, they need to be more entertaining.
@@legless4767All these fairy's think football is supposed to be soft😂
He shouldn’t even get suspended at all
@@legless4767The suspension should last for at least as long as Trevor Lawrence is injured.
If they dont suspend him there is no reason why defenders would not do that in the future to make sure to take out the opponent's star QB to be able to get an easy win playing against the back-up.
Then maybe the QBs will stop being **** and not run full speed into Linebackers
@@brandonhallam51 watch the clip and you see how the slide starts 5 yards before the hit. You always will have a chance to hit QBs dirty if they want just the way the game developed. If Mahomes would have been hit like that (and he doesnt slide that early) the noise would way higher.
@@Black4Cookshould've been 7 yards b4. The second he saw the lb he should've gave himself up. He didn't because the rules favor him and he paid for it
defense is what makes football. F the QB hit that little wussy.
@Black4Cook 5 yards away.. these 2 players run a 40 yard dash around 4.6 seconds. That's 8.7 yards per second, which equates to 5 yards in about 0.6 seconds. Cut that in half since they are running full speed directly at each other and you have 0.3 seconds.
1/3rd of a second.. the exact amount of time it takes for you to blink, is how long you have to make that decision.
But everything looks so easy when you're watching slowmo instant replay right?
Yeah, just stop talking.
Happened very fast, but when you look at it from 1:14 you can see the defenders facial expression man he was trying to take his face off with that elbow. Dirty hit. Hope he can recover quickly.
In todays game that is one of the dirtiest plays
Al-Shaair apologized on social media is just weak - he did that to get away with it. Dirty players like need to be removed from the game - he is disgusting
I wouldn’t go that far. I understand yes that was a dirty play but he dosent have a record for committing dirty plays. Speaking across a screen and calling him a dirty player isn’t fair at all. He apologize not trying to cause him harm and I believe it. He should be suspended. But he deserves a chance to correct his actions. Don’t vilify human beings like they can’t make a mistake. We all allowed that 1 time to correct our past actions
@@sidsid6380 MAN UP AND APOLOGIZE IN PERSON OR CALL HIM PERSONALLY. STILL NEEDS SUSPENSION AND A BIG FINE!!
I couldn't agree more. I think he should be gone the rest of the year. You need to bring the hammer down. It was clearly intentional so yeah get him out of the league.
off setting penalties in a situation like this is bs.
Apology is empty, dude tried choking Tom Brady in the past
Hy i seen that thats crazy😂😂😂😂😂he threw punch at player also these type players need be out league he elbowed Trevor Lawrence that caused Concussion
@@breonmitchell2443punch was uncalled for but was in response to the bears overreacting to him pushing Caleb out of bounds while Caleb was still in bounds.
Were very quick to judge. The dudes not trying to kill anyone. He should have pulled back but that's very hard to do in the moment.
Tom Brady wrong person to use as victim.. a hiabitual dirty player.. look up Tom Brady dirty plays its too many to count.. I don't want to hear it unless you are willing to bring those plays as well
No he didn't. He's trying to pull him down. Hitting the helmet is a penalty so he went to his chest.
1 game? Make it the remainder of the season, set an example to protect QB!
Steve Young did say Sliding feet first can cause head injury.
He watched him slide. His eyes were open and on target.
It was intentional.
Ofc he did it wasn't intentional it was a football play 😂😂😂 Trevor Lawrence should have slid early
@@Jevilduryhe slide. Stop.
@@Jevildury These people clearly never played football they think its that easy to change trajectory at the last second going full speed
SO STOP SLIDING AND RUN THE BALL YOU'VE COMMITTED TO RUN IT RUN IT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE QUARTERBACK SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SLIDE ONCE YOU COMMIT TO RUN THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO COME ON YOU RUN THE BALL
Shouldn't play the rest of the year!
He should be fined
I dont want to hear about dirty play, and that al Shaair should be suspended... wtf is Lawrence doing sliding in such a place?
Not his first time this year with a cheap shot on a QB. He did one with Caleb Williams. He should get a major fine and suspension for the season.
"...maybe this is just a one off". Clearly Dan Orlovsky doesn't know Al-Shaair's history of dirty hits and punches.
Maybe you should stop crying
@@brandonhallam51Maybe you should stop crying about him crying 😂
@@brandonhallam51 why are you defending Al-Shaair?
@@ala5294 cause hes a great LB that these other soft teams are scared of
@@brandonhallam51 ive always been a fan of Azeez. He's a dawg. People are soft its the NFL and injuries happen
I think fake slides should be a penalty. Would stop dbs from having to worry about getting fooled on a bs play
Obviously a lot of people have never played competitive football… yes the play should be penalized. But i think the over arching issue is the hardness of the turf and the qb sliding.
If Trevor didn’t “fence” we would not be looking to suspend.
The fencing is happening from not having grass fields and increase in an sliding
Finally someone with common sense, so now he should be suspended? This happens a lot so did every player get suspended too?
EverBank is a grass field
That boy hit him like he was Bill Lambert of the Detroit Pistons lol 😂 glad he’s OK
Lambeer.
Laimbeer
@ yea him lol 😂
NFL needs to figure out what's important to them. Players like franchise QBs, or players like Azeez.
They already chosen. It's franchise QBs
He slid too late just play flag football instead if you don’t wanna get hit running out of the pocket
If Derwin got suspended for a hard clean hit, then this guy should be out for the season
Not to mention, ladd getting hit helmet to helmet in that falcons game.. and the Flagg was picked up.. but let derwin grace his helmet on another player and he gets suspended yet the chargers couldn’t even get an obvious call.. officiating is completely useless.
minimum should be suspended for as long as trevor is out
That's a good one I agree but Lawrence might be back in a week he should be suspended for the season really
Y'all both dumb he should be fined and that's it @@evelynmartinez8045
Al Shaair should be suspended multiple games, maybe even terminated by the NFL if he does this again, he has a reputation.
@@itsaaa9758 quarterbacks should be suspended for not sliding properly
Me... I'd give him a 4 game suspension plus $100k fine.
2:14 what kind of logic is this
If I was the coach of the Texans he would be cut permanently
DIRTY PLAY: It takes the EXACT same amount of time for a Defensive player to decide if he is going to lead with a Forearm to the head neck area while wearing a STEEL BRACE ... as it does to do a monkey roll right over the top of a defenseless player doing a 'GIVE UP' slide. (one point 7 seconds) SUSPEND HIM FOR THE SEASON with NO PAY
Shannon said it best. There is a switch when you play defense and sometimes, players can't turn it "off." It's a whole different mentality.
🎉SUSPENDED FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON AND A 100GRAND FINE!!
One Game Suspension only? Should be 3 at least…
Just end the qb slide rule!
I severly hate this. Yea it sucks Trevor was injured. But what do you want these players to do seriously. You want these guys to go 100% and in a split second you have to process that the player is sliding and to let up. To me these guys sign up for this and what happens happens. That's not to say don't police it at all but I think we have to rethink how we look at how these defensive players are supposed to play. It's crazy to me this guy is gonna get suspended for this
That hit was a crime. I'm saying 90 days in jail!
There's no defense for that hit. Even Demeco Ryans, the Texans head coach who was an All Pro middle LB, made no attempt to defend it. He said we don't coach that. That was a clear attempt to injure a defenseless player who had given himself up with a violent shot to the head and should get him a suspension of at least 4 games.
Not everything is going to be coach, my guy, are you retarded? Plus, Trevor went down too late. Just to get a first down, knowing that he's going to get hit.
That’s too much. Trevor slid late so there wasn’t much time for the defender to react. He should get suspended for leading with the forearm rather than trying to do a traditional tackle bear-hug style. We don’t want to disincentivize hitting QBs so much that QBs get away with everything, just enough to disincentive hard-hitting on QBs.
@@Deerjasonhe couldnt do anything with the forearm he was trying to protect himself too this is all on Trevor Lawrence
I respect the players who touch a man down instead of knocking him out
suspend him 6 games.
all players can slide its not only to the qb thats what alot of ppl dont know
Johnny Knox from the Beard is the act reason no player should dive.
This dude does have a history of dirty hits, he punched a dude earlier this season and nothing happened, what does the NFL expect
He punched a guy? Awww no way!! 😂 it was a clean hit
On a national televised Sunday night game at that
He sees Trevor sliding and dives downwards to hit him. His teammates reactions said it all, even they knew it was a dirty play
Diving is more dangerous as we saw from TUA injury u head/face first and it can cause even more horrible injuries sliding is better and players should be professional and conscious enough to know and see a QB slide
Shows how Dan knows so much but didn't know he got a safety
Sounds like Dan O may have suffered a few too many concussions to think diving would be safer.
i would not agree. If you dive you can tense up you head/neck and prepare for contact but when you slide you almost have 0 tension in your neck which result in this bang bang plays where they hit you to the head and the head hits the ground.
If you get paid millions of dollars, you should be able to get hit. If ufc had all these rules football has now, they'd be only wrestling.
If TLaws dives head first there, Al-Shaair is going helmet-to-helmet
We wouldn't have this conveersation if it was any other postion, he slid late and the tackler was already in his motion to tackle
No he didnt slide late you blind inbred
Yes 100%
Lmao defending a dirty and late hit lmao.
BIG Hit AlL❤
He seems like the chillest dude in the nfl. My instincts tell me
The way to fix this is take the slide out of the game. This happens multiple times every year where a QB waits til the last minute to slide then gets hit. If you are trying to protect the players head take this out of the game. Expecting 2 players running sub 4.5 second 40s to make a move within 5 yards in .5 seconds is just ridiculous.
Suspend the coach for a game as well. If coaches start losing pay checks, they'll coach differently. As of now, they have every incentive to allow their players to hit dirty.
The thing I hate about players being penalized for these hits on quarterbacks, is that more times than not, it’s a split second decision play. Your trajectory as a defensive player, doesn’t allow you to just pull up or change your position without hurting yourself, especially when it’s possible the quarterback could fake you out, & not even slide or go down. I understand protecting the quarterback, but when they are that close, like I said, it’s a split second of determining whether to or not to tackle the quarterback.
They started their actions simultaneously in my opinions. When Trevor the LB had already committed to the tackle. All this stuff happens so fast. It doesn't look like an intentionally late hit.
Can you guys mention the reversed call on the hit on Ladd Maconkey at the Chargers Falcons game yesterday. Ridiculous how a flag was thrown clearly for a reason and they picked up the flag after “discussing” it with the other refs. If this was Mahomes it would be a penalty and a suspension on the player.
This is a regular hit nowadays qbs run a lot more you can’t take everything away from defense in a game of inches .
It’s up to the player to protect himself and not put his self in situations
They can and they will.
Get rid of the slide!!! This would never happen if he just ran and got tackled or get out of bounds. If you're a scrambling QB, sorry you're going to get hit like any other player on the field. 6 a dirty hit but at the same time it's a bang bang play. I'm not blind but the defender going for the tackle as Trevor is starting to slide. But leading with the forearm didn't help the defender. Get rid of the slide!
His Hit came with the intention of hurting Trevor.. plain and simple. when I seen this my first thought was what if he had hit Tua the same way, what would happen? Permeant Injury or death..
Tua leads with his head there’s a difference
It's the BLM way 🚬🤦
No, he was protecting Trevor using his forearm he ain’t wanna lead with his head and get a Penalty.
It’s football nobody is hitting anyone to make them feel good. Things happen at a fraction of a second.
@@silvergold2140 You’re right, Tua would’ve died taking that hit
The thing that got me was after the fight he didn’t go check up on Trevor. He just stood there and started jawing at other Jaguar players and the fans… really. Then while being escorted he took off his helmet and almost started another fight with the players. I know he “apologized.” Bet his agent wrote it and he just read over it and sent it.
tells you everything you need to know about his "intentions"
For these hits to stop, football will have to stop being football. Sad to see folks get hit like lawrence.
He waited a looooong time to slide
No he didn’t lol. There was 4-5 yards from where he started his slide to where Azeez hit him. He slid short of the first down as well it’s not like he tried getting the first down by running longer and then sliding.
Go away cause you're just trolling with that statement.
Dan is saying dive to avoid those hits but Tua’s been knocked out twice because he dove and didn’t slide….there is no safe way to get down or protect yourself, there are players that’ll go for the knockout hit, and there are those that won’t go for the knockout hit but still hit you because any physical hit in general is gonna soften you up later in the game. If it’s not intentional to hurt you, it’ll be intentional to possibly affect the players mindset later in the game….
Slide drills in practice. Seattle did this in the mid to late 2000s. They had a trap on the field, watered it down and QBs practiced sliding
The NFL used to be a gladiator sport but not anymore…it should become flag football…it’s about time that safeties and DB’s teach these quarterbacks that they cannot run down the middle of the field sliding into first downs…why is the guy apologizing …what a joke
Brain dead inbred
How can Shannon accept the apology? That is on Trevor Lawrence to decide.
Suspension for the rest of the season without pay. IDGAF. This guy has a repeated history of being dirty af.
What’s the repeat history? Please cite some plays besides the one where he pushed Caleb out of bounds while Caleb was still in bounds.
They can’t do that. Richie incognito played for you guys and never had that happen
Suspension better happen!! Football is football, but this is not football!
A dive, Dan? You mean like how Tua knocked hinself out? Ok buddy...
Let’s make it easier. The quarter cannot leave the pocket to run.
I believe they are not taking into account the speed of the plays. If I’m running full speed trying to stop you how am I supposed to stop on a dime because you decide to slide at the last second.
Just get rid of the QB slide altogether. It’s not like defensive players purposely try to hurt QB’s, if a QB slides too late this will more than likely be the end result almost every time. They better learn to run out of bounds or just throw the ball if they aren’t ready for the physicality of the game
Suspend old boy for the season if you want to prevent these type of plays and players
Azeez has a t-shirt launcher filled with race cards that he walks around with all day long.
Ban him from all games, fire him.
No more quarterbacks giving up by sliding. Sliding into players dangerous and a penalty in most sports, the Offensive ball carrier cannot slide into Defensive players.
Dirty hit but also maybe folks should start wearing those Guardian helmets. Maybe it wouldn't have helped, maybe it would have saved him from that fencing response.
folks do wear them, league allowed them to be worn in game this year.
QBs also need to protect themselves better and dive earlier. They're the only position that gets special protection as an active runner, and it's hard for the defense to play around that. With all the fake and delayed slides, guys are just gonna start taking shots, because you just can't tell sometimes
With all that said the guy still didn’t tackle him he just threw his body at him clearly a dirty play
It was an obvious dirty play period
Just waiting for mahommes to get crushed when he does his little fake out. QBs shouldn’t be allowed to deke or fake slide, they already have all the advantages.
@ I agree with all of that, but a suspension means nothing if your QB is out for 4 weeks in the middle of your playoff push, not that that's the jags situation. Who actually loses in that situation?
The problem is like they said you protect yourself by sliding (as soon as the slide starts you are downed at that position) but when you slide you expose yourself way more than just lower your shoulder and go into contact.
Clean hit
Coward hit, completely preventable
BountyGate 2.0 Take out franchise QBs, get suspended 1 game
Franchise Quarterback!? 4/10 30yards 1 pick! Backup played! Yes dirty hit. Don't hesitate slide. Gon learn today. 1 game suspension and fine. Move on
@@markreed4074 maybe you need to look up the definition of franchise
I agree with Ray Lewis. You are going to get hurt playing football. If you don’t want that go play tennis or golf.
A one or two game suspension for what he did seems lame to me. It should be much more.
Why? Because you're soft? It's fckn football, they make millions.
Prayers for TLaw❤
Nah, prayers for everyone crying about a hit in FOOTBALL.
@@crazycatlady4391 big words from someone that isn't even allowed to play the game
It wasn’t even a bad hit, oh my lord! 🤦🏽♂️
I shocked that Shannon is not in his room today😮😮😮😮
Diving would get you hurt even worse lol. Do we not remember Johnny Knox.
The only thing left to do without affecting running QBs too much is make the QB a 2 hand touch when they're a runner.
It's not a QB thing - it's a runner thing. *Any* runner goes in to a slide, they're giving themselves up.
make it two hand touch, Al-Shaair still gonna lead with a forearm to the head, still get penalized, still get suspension, still take out opposing qb. nothing changes.
My issue with the hit is he lead with the forearm I’ve seen a lot of QBs get hit as they slide sometimes the defensive players can’t prevent himself from hitting the QB because of the momentum but when you lead with a forearm to the head your very much trying to take someone out of the game .
@@randyp8849 it wasnt'a split second. watch the video fukwit. he had this lined up the second he saw lawrence strat to slide. and adjusted his trajectory for maximum impact.
@ it’s harder to move your head out the way than your fore arm especially when moving at full throttle you have more control of you forearm than you have more dexterity besides Azeez Al-Shaair is a repeat offender . There is evidence of him grabbing Tom Brady by the throat during A ball game against Tampa . And earlier this year against Chicago after hitting an offensive player out of bounds he got up and started punching bears players on the sidelines . He was fined for that . The NFL will make an example out of him . And it’s almost impossible to look at that hit on Trevor land not think that he didn’t care if he took his head off with that shot .
This is my opinion also. He led with the forearm and went all the way through, bashing trevors head in the ground.
@@stlegion-px1woso the defenders should put themselves at risk for offensive players?
2 game suspension minimum! The man tried to take Lawrence's head off.
I’m not a fan of the Trevor Lawrence but as a person I respect him. This needs more than 2 games. This needs remainder of the season - minimum.
@@discodrip3097soft af
Thats football
@@anyaalexander9525 Should have taken the hit instead of sliding.
Oh no!! Our white QB got targeted. Let’s cry our fxcking eyes out like it’s never happened before. Just shut the fxck up with your crybaby faux outrage. Corny weirdos. He’s not the first QB to get a headshot. Sit the fxck down.
I prefer Shannon in the studio
An eye for eyes x 2. would be fair and justified. Else it would be a norm to have a 2nd or 3rd string player to take out a franchise player. All you have to say afterward is that as a profession player whom had played in this position for more than a decade, "it was just a blink of an eye". "His head just happen to hit my elbows". "It is not my fault he slide , he should have ran his head to my ankle".
It was a clean hit
We know people cant stop on a dime when its a full head of steam, but Trevor started that slide like 5 yards from the Defender.
I dont know how you can stop from hitting him, but surely it can be a way weaker hit.
funny thing is he does stop on a dime, square up, then take two steps to launch into Lawrence
Do a fair catch wave before slide
Not a bad idea.
Football sucks now
That's a pretty bad idea
stop eating lead paint
@@losinghope5123 please shut up
Rex and Dan were saying that QB’s should dive at the defenders feet instead of sliding but that’s when more dangerous lets say they dive at their feet and collide into their legs they could have so many injuries Hamstring, Torn ACL, Ankle Sprain, Fractured fibula the margin of error there is very thin
U right shout out Ingram
I am so done with first take. Stephen A has broke me. I can't listen to his idiocracy and biased takes any longer.
I myself liked the game better 25 years ago when guys were paid to try and send guys to the hospital. I played Pop Warner and HS football and coaches told us to not be afraid to go face mask to face mask with a player. It’s funny to me how the same people who denounce the hits that can injure or even kill a football player on any level of competition are the same people who not only view but place bets on MMA fights? I miss when we looked forward to the brutality of football. I was in the military, I was told that recruits now have stress cards that basically protect them from drill sergeants in basic training? Such a weak contradicting society we live in. If a football player gets injured it’s what he signed up for to get paid the big dollars. Nothing like a soldier who puts his life on the line in battle for which he signed up for.
I wonder how many people will be calling for HIM to retire (like Tua)....
Ive seen way worst hit on a Qb or any player without teamates fighting the hitter, hala james harrison ,ryan clark vontez burfick