Sly Cooper Theory: Sly's Parents & the Orphanage

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  • Sly's parents have always been a mystery. The father's face was never shown. Although the father was mentioned quite a few times, Sly's mother is even more mysterious.
    Sly explained what happened to him and his father as a kid, he explained this in the beginning of every Sly Cooper game.
    Sucker Punch, the developer behind Sly 1, Sly 2 and Sly 3, has never revealed the father's identity, nor the mother's.
    Sly's father was shown in Sly Cooper 4 Thieves in Time (developed by Sanzaru Games). However, is that what he really looks like?
    Sucker Punch created short comic books known as issue 1 and 2. The Adventures of Sly Cooper Issue 1 takes place between the ending of Thievius Raccoonus and the beginning of Sly 2 Band of Thieves. Issue 2 takes place between the ending of Sly 2 and the beginning of Sly 3 Honour among Thieves.

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  • @repperex3745
    @repperex3745 7 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Who still wants the Series to continue

    • @zviou8309
      @zviou8309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Repper EX me

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Everyone.

    • @callme_dom4355
      @callme_dom4355 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they are contiuned just sly 5 is not realesed

    • @SoapySlip4062
      @SoapySlip4062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me

    • @scott2488fan
      @scott2488fan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do

  • @ZeldaEd123
    @ZeldaEd123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I've actually had this theory for a while now that Sly's attraction to Carmelita may be hereditary and that all the Coopers (not counting Bob) have all been attracted to people in law enforcement with the possibility of Sly's Mom being a cop before settling down with Sly's Dad.

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Raising yourself is crazy, plus that means Sly got killed.

    • @ukkothedwarf1259
      @ukkothedwarf1259 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And it would never happen

    • @rhithym
      @rhithym 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Roba Fett no, you have to kill your younger self for events to disappear. if you killed the older self, the younger would just grow up and redo the loop all over again

    • @tbossch
      @tbossch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atleast he didn’t get thrown in a cell

    • @Frzn_Blvd
      @Frzn_Blvd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tbosschhe kinda did in a way he’s stuck in a time loop which forces him to live and die over and over if the theory is true

  • @IMidNightl
    @IMidNightl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I swear any game that involves time travel/multi-verse stuff always makes me loose brain cells lol

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here

  • @amalfi5000
    @amalfi5000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I believe both Sly's parents were thieves together back then. So when Sly & Carmelita have a kid of their own in the future, he/she would live as both cop by day & thief by night.

  • @dylangouveia2424
    @dylangouveia2424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    what if Carmelita came from a long line of cops that were supposed to catch the coopers or destined to marry

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Carmelita is actually the fourth cop in her family!

    • @chainzyt7912
      @chainzyt7912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's way I thought

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sis, "what if Conner married a fox. Just like every other cooper?"
    Me, "Would that mean Carmaleta and Sly are related?"
    Sis, "that's kinda creepy."

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Something tells me the Coopers had a thing for foxes. Remember when Tennesse mentioned that Carmelita reminded him of someone ;)?

  • @christinalittleton2242
    @christinalittleton2242 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    About a while ago, I once had a dream of a gameplay of Sly 5. In this gameplay, you're in Paris, France....playing as Sly's father (in his mid to late teens) and you're on a mission to prevent this international "Mistress of Disguise" from stealing something important. During the cutscene, you two gaze in each other's eyes as they glint in the full moon light.
    Conner Cooper: Excuse me, miss. I believe that you've stolen something from me that's priceless.
    Mistress of Disguise: Oh really? What might that be, per se?
    Conner Cooper: *sweeps her off her feet* My heart.
    Mistress of Disguise: *laughs* Oh please! The only thing here that's priceless is your sense of humor, Doll!

    • @EvlutnTrnrDaisy
      @EvlutnTrnrDaisy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Neat dream. ^_^

    • @couragew6260
      @couragew6260 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have had dreams before that became a reality months later. I hope you had that type of dream.

    • @ShadowRaccoon54
      @ShadowRaccoon54 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Write a fanfiction.

    • @GEN1USYoutube
      @GEN1USYoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soooooo much writing

    • @milsetamion7073
      @milsetamion7073 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have dreams that Will happen in the future

  • @starbrandsit-in5640
    @starbrandsit-in5640 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In Sly 4 the father's name is Conner Cooper so we at least have his name.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed.

  • @stlsheepgames4231
    @stlsheepgames4231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sly's mom was murdered with sly's dad in sly 3 when they are talking about the panda king sly mentions it

  • @Bnatesgamer
    @Bnatesgamer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That's an insane theory man xD

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Bnatesgamer I know right XD. But it was still fun to cover :p

    • @sharukrishnavigneswaran6902
      @sharukrishnavigneswaran6902 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi hey i have a eastereeg in sly cooper theivs in time if you have the dragon claw then turn it over it will say clockwork was her :o

    • @Sandman42561
      @Sandman42561 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sharukrishna Vigneswaran Everyone knows that

    • @juliareyes1234
      @juliareyes1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI I really enjoyed this, especially when you suggested Sly raised himself! Definitely a creative idea

  • @janskrzynski3753
    @janskrzynski3753 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I hope sly 5 comes out as ss on as possible

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jan Skrzynski It would be great!

    • @janskrzynski3753
      @janskrzynski3753 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      VtnVivi we can hope

  • @taigas7779
    @taigas7779 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    your videos are amazing it surprises me that you only have 1,000

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Alejandro Santiago :D Thank you.

  • @rickm.4797
    @rickm.4797 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What if Ratchet is Sly's father? Ah?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It explains everything, brain fart.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** If so, that means the team doesn't know who they're up against, Penelope could have plotting something this whole time.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** I don't think so.

    • @callme_dom4355
      @callme_dom4355 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI what is that charcter as your logo?

  • @stardogsmasher6217
    @stardogsmasher6217 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm having a hard time thinking if this would be possible from the mysteries of Sly's childhood before being on his own with Bentley and Murray.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since his parents' faces always remained hidden (apart from Sly 4), I feel like there's this mystery. Why hide their faces right?

    • @stardogsmasher6217
      @stardogsmasher6217 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI yeah that still makes things a big mystery.

  • @lexusdriver1963
    @lexusdriver1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah to this day we have some facts about Mr. Cooper who his first name is Connor Cooper but we have no facts about Mrs. Cooper. In my opinion we don't know how Connor met Mrs. Cooper and to make things less confusing when Sly said "My father fought to protect us" this indicated that only Connor defended his young son and his wife so it turns out that Connor is the only one who was murdered by the Fiendish Five. Sly's mom Mrs. Cooper is nowhere to be seen so we're left with a thought whether she's out of the house for a while. When she arrives back home she was devastated when she discovers that her husband was murdered and the Thievius Racconus is ripped and stolen by the Fiendish Five. To explain the part where Sly ended up in the orphanage I would say that Sly's mom fell into severe depression that she couldn't take care of Sly that she sends him to the orphanage and at that point I believe that was the last time Sly gets to see his mom.
    So Sly's mom has been a total mystery but I believe in Sly 5 when Sly is reunited with his crew, Bentley and Murray and hopefully Penelope if she truly redeems herself and is exonerated and his girlfriend Carmelita they all get back together and when Bentley tries to locate where Mrs. Cooper is right now Sly can truly reunite with his long-lost mother and at that point Sly and his mom all hug each other as Sly's mom finally recovers from her depression and is glad to see her son all grown up together with his friends. For Carmelita I believe she might reopen the case of the Fiendish Five and there would be a retrial of the Fiendish Five excluding Clockwerk who is dead and the Panda King who is now living with his daughter and is exonerated. The Fiendish Five that would face the retrial are Sir Raleigh, Muggshot and Mz. Ruby and they're all convicted of first-degree murder of Connor Cooper and all their prison sentences would be changed to either Life Imprisonment without the possibility of parole or Capital Punishment.
    Long answer short Sly's mom has an ambiguous fate either she's dead or still alive.

  • @warriordarkgaming
    @warriordarkgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should point out in the Recap for Sly 2, Sly talks about clockwork and says and I quote "Eventually he caught up with my parents" parents... as in plural... (yes I know this video came out like 6 years ago buttttttt my OCD requires me to correct the statement of his mom not being present at the time of the murder)

  • @AD-nv7nw
    @AD-nv7nw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love your stuff, you literally have my 3 favorite games on one channel, its perfect, keep up the good work!!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Alex Demers Thanks :D Glad you enjoy it!

  • @muzicloverzof60s-now7
    @muzicloverzof60s-now7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy father's day to Connor Cooper! Now we're waiting for Sly if he ever comes back to the current time in order to become a father. I'd like to see Sly be a family man.

  • @wowfly6485
    @wowfly6485 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What if penelopy was sly's father

  • @nonamemusic8328
    @nonamemusic8328 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that they will reveal sly's father in the last sly cooper game and then never make another game about it. because when that happens, there is nothing more to fight or. he met his father and his the members of his family and put all the rivals of him in jail. what can they do after? maybe travelling to the future or something like that.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or a prequel ;)

  • @lightanddarkbros6646
    @lightanddarkbros6646 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Slys mom got killed by the fiendish five

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is easily assumed yes! Plus Sly even said Clockwerk caught up with his PARENTS in Sly 2.

  • @aaronpittman5583
    @aaronpittman5583 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just noticed your Profile Pic is Ratchet wearing a Sly Shirt also holding a keyblade and wearing a crown.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Doctor Nefarious Haha yeah!

  • @The-Vigilante-and-the-Fox
    @The-Vigilante-and-the-Fox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it could also be that sly's father was a fox & sly's mother was a raccoon 😇

  • @KiwiBoi420
    @KiwiBoi420 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sly realizes he can go back in time to his parents

    • @KiwiBoi420
      @KiwiBoi420 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      like enough to be with them

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That could to one very deep emotional story.

  • @Acruxicon
    @Acruxicon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's the most confusing Sly Cooper theory I ever heard.
    No
    That's the most confusing gaming theory I've ever heard.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha XD

  • @nrdfox7689
    @nrdfox7689 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before this video I actually thought about Sly meeting his younger self and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a twist like that since the game has already put some twists out there like the Penelope betrayal. What if Sly's mom actually survived the fiendish fives attack and is trying to find Sly? But never got to since he is a thief. Awesome theory by the way! I'm looking forward to your future videos, you never disappoint!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Fruity Smoothieh What if his mom sent him to the orphanage, in attempts of protecting him from Clockwerk and Fiendish Five? Although, Clockwerk explained that he spared Sly in order to prove that Coopers are nothing without the book. Maybe, his mom didn't want anything to do with him (very sad) and sent him to an orphanage? Anyways, Sly was probably sent to the orphanage by someone random, making the story a lot simpler. And thanks!

    • @nrdfox7689
      @nrdfox7689 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi Like you said, this game has a lot of mysteries and questions that should be answered. He couldn't of just ended up at the orphanage. In Sly 5 If we meet his father that would probably answer questions. Or at least in Sly 5 have lots of Mysteries solved.

    • @nrdfox7689
      @nrdfox7689 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi :D

  • @jpmccabe3745
    @jpmccabe3745 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That time traveling being linked with sky's parents really does make sense but this theory could be the reason why sucker punch gave away the franchise and now that it's owned by a different company this will never get explained

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jim McCabe Or maybe it will :P

  • @jamesiewalters2360
    @jamesiewalters2360 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, what can I say? Its been a long time, and it was one of his best memories, so it's possible that Carmalita was edited out to make it a perfect memory. You know how a humans memory changes over time, the same could happen here.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Edited out, do you mean Carmelita is the figure we see in the portrait?

    • @jamesiewalters2360
      @jamesiewalters2360 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I mean that sly's memories grew hazier over time, and Carmalita vanished completely. You know no one can remember their childhood very clearly, it's like that.

    • @jamesiewalters2360
      @jamesiewalters2360 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jamesie Walters I am of course referring to the orphanage memories.

  • @NordiusOfficial
    @NordiusOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carmelita is like 3 years older than Sly. Sly was 18 in 2002, making Carmelita 21 in 2002.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup :)

  • @theeighthwonderoftheworld7845
    @theeighthwonderoftheworld7845 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the theory and it is one of the best I've heard. I have to say that it is unlikely that the story would go that way:( It is to risky for the company. The theory seems a little bit to complex for a relatively simple video game. Although the picture and stuff would make sense. I have a theory that sly grew more and more powerful and eventually went back in time and either taught slightenkammon or is slightenkomman. This would make sense how it all started. I have to wonder how the cooper line spread through the world though. I am on the edge of working out a theory that every cooper is just one time tracking individual. Maybe at the end of each coopers life they go back in time and un age themselves into a child for them past selves to raise. And the first cooper was sly from the future. It would travel in a complete circle.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Eli Roy You took the words right out of my mouth! About Slytunkhamen... I planning something ;p

    • @theeighthwonderoftheworld7845
      @theeighthwonderoftheworld7845 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was just sitting there wondering how slyttnkhamen gained his skills. Like he was the first cooper and he had invisibility which is without a doubt the best move it seems like the moves would become better but instead slytunkhomman seems to be the best. Sly seems like he should be the peak cooper because of his knowing all the moves I think maybe that is where sly four left off maybe they'll official tell us but maybe they'll let us keep guessing

  • @raymond6845
    @raymond6845 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own both comics. They took FOREVER to find at a price that wouldn't break the bank. Fun fact: Inspector Fox actually swears at Sly in the first issue.
    Also I'm glad you saw the portrait. I have been playing through the games again and when I saw it . . . I can't tell you what I felt . . . sort of a strange excitement for some reason.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Raymond Davis I wish I could my hands on physical copies! When they briefly showed the portrait, I dunno, there was this mysterious feel to it.

  • @zackarymario1335
    @zackarymario1335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is the music in the video

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scent of Silence Kingdom Hearts Re Chain

  • @bennu547
    @bennu547 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t Sly literally say that his father will tell him stories about their family while he was sitting on his knee? So Sly knows he’s talking to his father. Not an older version of himself from the future

  • @Coopergal33
    @Coopergal33 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the point of having Sly's father being hidden (except for the little Sly4 cutscene) is that he is a mystery man. An ambiguous figure that no one knows except him. For the mother, I am not sure.
    But what if...this may sound farfetched..what if any memory of her is wiped off? Like for some reason it maybe...she must have did something to have some portions of her memory erased or messed with. Maybe to protect herself, her kid, some other agenda? We may never know.
    I am not sure if I brought this up earlier or not but I do believe that Penelope's inclusion in the Medieval level is a reference to the Black Plague. Not just for her being a mouse in England, but her black themed disguised as a call back to the black plague. Am I the only one who thought of this?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Coopergal33 Despite this theory, his dad is a mysterious man that's all, like you said. I wonder if his mom is the one who sent him to the orphanage, to protect him basically. However, it's pretty sad that she would abandon her son. If she did abandon her son, then how come Sly doesn't remember her? (Maybe he did, but just hated bringing her up).

    • @Coopergal33
      @Coopergal33 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi What if she had no choice but to give him up? Since the Coopers are well known criminals, CPS might played a role in placing Sly in the orphanage.
      His mother sure is mysterious. Maybe more than his dad. Not to sound like a buzzkill but I've seen some stories where they use the "missing mom" trope. Even if the mother had an equal part as the father, the character will usually be concern more about the dad figure. Not all stories, but some stories. I could be wrong but that's just my thoughts.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Interesting :)

  • @hawker6723
    @hawker6723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vtnvivi, I think it's cool that sly helped his younger self with carmalita, at least in beginning. It sounds more likely to me(if slys father's name is Conner how can sly be his own father unless it's his biological father.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah now that's the thing, Sly wouldn't be his own biological father, an ''adoptive'' one instead.

  • @TwoStepILY
    @TwoStepILY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plot twist, what if dr m tipped off the fiendish 5 where Connor cooper was living with his family :O maybe in exchange for the vault location? :O clockwork would most definitely know it as he’s been a cooper stalker for years, and clockwork has never been about the riches, he’s about the legacy. I definitely think he would use the vault as a bargaining chip.

  • @AlyssaFoxah.
    @AlyssaFoxah. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:47 is there a chance that could have been Carmelita's arm? She has orange fur and yellow gloves like that. I'm just tossing out ideas.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Alyssa Foxah Maybe!

  • @mymusic9407
    @mymusic9407 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like the grand father paradox

  • @georgecopers5071
    @georgecopers5071 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Connor: Son, have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagieus the Wise?
    Sly: No
    Connor: I thought not. It's not a story the Thevious Racconus would tell you.
    Thought of that meme when he asks his son about the Thevious Racconus

  • @DeathVictor101
    @DeathVictor101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but isnt clockwark killed his fsther on sly 1 and o sly 4 le paradox i think killed his father like who killed sly fsther and why le paradox said about he wanted to be the best thieves we dont see him on 1 2 or 3 only4 we need to solve it more

  • @michaellynes3540
    @michaellynes3540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carmelita was born in 1981, Sly was born in 1984

  • @auroraborealis8155
    @auroraborealis8155 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In sly 2 there is a cheat for this thing called TOM. TOM works like the alarm clock, but he either says "Hey, hey, HEY", or "Hey, hey, penuts". This could possibly be a toy Sly had as a kid and uses still today.

  • @skoomen2lelxx806
    @skoomen2lelxx806 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    pls more sly your the only one thats keeps uploding sly Cooper ffs rip sucker punch

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Skoomen2lel xx Don't worry :p

  • @JimMcnugget
    @JimMcnugget 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the start I thought you said ''to discuss his pants'' lol great video

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +JimMcnugget haha. Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @JimMcnugget
      @JimMcnugget 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      VtnVivi :D Also I can't wait for thenew R&C game coming out in a coule of days! I'm doin gvideos on it on mychannel then like a mrarthonthing i can't wait :D

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      JimMcnugget In 3 dayyysss!!!

    • @JimMcnugget
      @JimMcnugget 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know :D AHHHHH!!

  • @tompoliak7510
    @tompoliak7510 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna see Jim McSweeny in 3D

  • @nerdyhokagexl6570
    @nerdyhokagexl6570 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude this theory got me confused I think you need to do part 2 of this theory also great theory

    • @nerdyhokagexl6570
      @nerdyhokagexl6570 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      also I have a theory and it's about how ratchet and Clank remake. what if ratchet and clank went back in time and went before the series began. I do have proof about it like how Dr. nefarious is not a robot yet. maybe before up your arsenal dr. nefarious was not a robot but a alien or human. instead of quark killing nefarious what if ratchet and clank killed him. this could be one reason why nefarious hates ratchet and clank so much. what I mean is ratchet went back in time when clank was made and nefarious was not a robot. it could be ratchet as the murder and not clank. maybe clank does not know this and it's a secret. I don't really know if it can be true and it's the remake so I guess nefarious is like that but I think you should find more proof and make a video about it so whata you think about that?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Laz bandicoot Time travel itself is confusing. What got you confused?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Laz bandicoot Nefarious was originally an organic life form, confirmed in Up your Arsenal; Qwark was involved in him turning into a robot. Time travel was never actually introduced, apart from the Great Clock, which itself isn't really a time machine.

  • @TheAndkonmegalodon
    @TheAndkonmegalodon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember the secret ending to Sly 4? I'm sure you've heard this theory thousands of times by now but I think Sly was sent back to Ancient Egypt (Thus explaining the desert in the ending) and he meets his ancestor there. Well, it just so happens that his ancestor is in the process of writing the Thievius Raccoonus. Sly plants a note in the book thus causing it to change for Bentley which allows him to take the time machine and rescue Sly.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheAndkonmegalodon ;p. I'll discuss about it eventually.

    • @TheAndkonmegalodon
      @TheAndkonmegalodon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      VtnVivi Can't wait ;)

    • @SlyCoolerBeastzYB
      @SlyCoolerBeastzYB 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi Penelope probably read thievious racconnus secrets, contents it maybe explain her betrayal

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Penelope reading the book, interesting!

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheAndkonmegalodon I've seen that occur in a certain show that shall remain nameless.

  • @teddybear1143
    @teddybear1143 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if carmelita is sly's sister and his mom was a fox.
    This could be possible because after sly's dad was killed he was put in an orphanage (where he met bently and murray) and they got split up at the orphanage and took different routes...

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So we're looking at incest?

  • @hassanghanim3966
    @hassanghanim3966 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heres my own crazy theory, is that every one of Sly's ancestors is married to a fox, first is the pic of sly's parent, and the second is that tennessee kid cooper mentioned that carmelita remind him of a girl he knows(carmelita's ancestors?).

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Hassan Ghanim ;p. I plan on talking about that.

    • @CandyApples4ever
      @CandyApples4ever 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      XD foxes are just naturally sexually appealing to the coopers. Like I noticed in my family my female ancestors like black haired men.

  • @giuseppemassa3709
    @giuseppemassa3709 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just think that the Sly Cooper series is just what we see, is really easy-going. In my opininion both of Sly's parent died, as shown in the first and second game, and Sly doesn't remember basically anything abouth them because he was too young.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm...But he remembers hiding in the closet and looking through the opening?

    • @giuseppemassa3709
      @giuseppemassa3709 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VtnVivi in my opinion he remembers just that 'cause was the most dramatic scene he has probabily ever seen. But i hope the story is more intense, because this allow the creator to make another game, maybe a prequel :D Btw I'm italian but i'm really glad i found someone who love the 3 ps2 mascotte even more than me! Love your videos!

  • @faniolecelestin3684
    @faniolecelestin3684 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    who else knows sly perfectly

  • @Alva_Lombax
    @Alva_Lombax 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realy hope they use this much potential to create a legendary villian at least with the movie or the 5º game if its ever made

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +hDARCK14 Clockwerk returning could one good option. I feel like we're not done with him yet.

    • @Alva_Lombax
      @Alva_Lombax 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      VtnVivi
      not done ? lets be honest that games havent even started to use clockwerk, noe game does not make the character justice

  • @TheSaitIsHere
    @TheSaitIsHere 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love your Sly Cooper videos Keep Up the good work

  • @mikeythewarriormtw5140
    @mikeythewarriormtw5140 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the movie that is coming some time soon, will we find out about his parents and see his parents in the movie?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michael Goodridge Hmm... I think they would go more towards some sort of flashback.

  • @juliasundberg7135
    @juliasundberg7135 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if sly IS THE OG COOPER? What if Sly got stuck in time and basically just started the whole cooper clane.

  • @darkf1014
    @darkf1014 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool, I subbed, I liked, and Commented! Nice work!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +dark f101 :D

  • @MrParamedic2
    @MrParamedic2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Vivi could it be that the hand of "Sly´s Father" not his Hand is, its Carmelita´s Hand (orange arm color yellow gloves)
    Thats just what Carmelias Hand looks like

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +LeksuPlays Maybe! I thought about that later on.

  • @mar-nw6tc
    @mar-nw6tc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sucker punch made such an interesting plot..sly's parents are a big mystery that we all want to know..

  • @zackfair8762
    @zackfair8762 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    if sly raised himself as a kid, he would change himself completely in the future and it would mess a lot up

  • @adamjones6473
    @adamjones6473 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe we'll find out what really happened to his parents in the next time traveling cooper game

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +AJay Yes!

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +AJay We know that Sly is stuck in Ancient Egypt at the end of Thieves in Time and according to the Thievius Raccoonus a Cooper did live in that time. If Sly 5 is a thing, time travel will need to be involved if Sly is to reunite with his friends.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      JamesDavy2009 Yeah!

  • @hostgammamon
    @hostgammamon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m gonna be honest.. Carmelita fox being the mother doesn’t sound far fetched to me. Because if you really think about it. How would she know so much about the coopers if she never caught one.. and how would she as a cop would be the one that gets closest to catching sly compared to the other ones. Sure she has files and stuff but let’s not forgot the other cops would also have access to those files. But as far as I know or remember the only cop who seems to be chasing sly. Is Carmelita fox. This would most likely mean she knew a cooper. Which In turn would give her enough experience to either catch a cooper who as she always does get really close to catching one. Therefore it’s very well possible Carmelita could be Sly’s mother. And the only way she could be his mother would be if Sly’s parents weren’t with him when he was a baby. And there’s a secret ending I saw on TH-cam for sly cooper thieves in time where sly seems to be in someplace like or is Egypt so maybe Carmelita decided to have Bentley send her back in time to when sly was a baby. And sly might’ve ended up in a different location so eventually Carmelita and Sly ended up meeting and for sly to raise his younger self he had to look different then what he usually does and that’s most likely why sly has the same cane as his father. And Carmelita as to not cause the timeline to change too much she had to leave sly. Which a possible reason sly never mentioned his is because Carmelita was never in his life at that point all he knew is that he had a mother but never knew her name. So I really don’t find you theory that far fetched

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now if Carmelita raised young Sly, would there still be two Carmelitas in that time period? What I mean is, where would future Carmelita go in order to not cause the timeline to change? Back to her original time?

    • @hostgammamon
      @hostgammamon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI probably

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh, carmelita is sly girlfriend

  • @crimsonking279
    @crimsonking279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If sucker punch developed sly 4 it would have been much better we probably would have got more information

  • @jackster9775
    @jackster9775 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or maybe Sly met Carmelita at the Happy Campers Orphanage

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carmelita would have remembered that.

  • @buttsagington6992
    @buttsagington6992 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANKS VTNVIVI! I really do appreciate how you took my comment and made several refrences to it
    THANKS BRO!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Nathan Hildabridle (NathanNation) No problem!

  • @shadowdragon236
    @shadowdragon236 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will it be possible if the Sly Cooper Movie would answer some of the Mystery behind Sly's Parents or just ask more questions?

    • @TheGamingTemple
      @TheGamingTemple 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt it but that would be interesting

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +ShadowDragon23 They might perhaps show some backstory. Would it give rise to other questions? Maybe.

  • @TheGamingTemple
    @TheGamingTemple 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol this theory is crazy, great video man!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheGamingTemple [TGT] Haha! It is pretty crazy (I was laughing when making this vid :p), even too crazy for such a simple game. But, it was still interesting to cover :). And thanks!

  • @challengerpat9810
    @challengerpat9810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm righting a fanfic on this topic but it's based on a true event

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see :O

  • @tales_of_fate4096
    @tales_of_fate4096 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks I keep watching this video over and over what if there could be clues in sly 5 have you herd when its coming out .

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't heard anything about Sly 5 yet.

    • @sherlockedhetalian725
      @sherlockedhetalian725 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VTNVIVI it's just a rumor as of right now. I think it's a strong possibility though.

    • @tales_of_fate4096
      @tales_of_fate4096 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mz Evenstar ok I don't get it what is the rumor

    • @tales_of_fate4096
      @tales_of_fate4096 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mz Evenstar I am not a rumor 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

  • @SoleEpochMultipod3592
    @SoleEpochMultipod3592 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess they sacrificed themselves to ensure a better future for their son

  • @pilop0073
    @pilop0073 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sly Coopers dad also had a hat like young sly!You didnt see the shadow on the door when you said slys dad had brown arms and yellow glove.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      A hat? Hmm...

    • @pilop0073
      @pilop0073 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VTNVIVI yes stop the video at 7:48 mins and u see that the shadow(Slys dad) has a hat just like young sly.

  • @Cooper941
    @Cooper941 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually own issue #2 of the Sly Cooper comics.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1slychilla I wish i could find physical copies!

  • @micheleportatadino5919
    @micheleportatadino5919 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's just amazing how much story this franchise contains, although my brain hurts from hearing all of this... That's why I hate time travelling, it messes up way too hard.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michele Portatadino Time travelling is complicated yes :p

  • @HelloKittySGTC
    @HelloKittySGTC 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    +VtnVivi Twisting your theory to a degree, what if Future Sly didn't want Young sly to meet Carmalita. Because then if he did Young Sly would never feel the same feeling for Carmalita (incestuous reasons) and then Future Sly would never had fell in love with Carmalita.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Delta_Sly Something like that could happen, time travel can mess up pretty much anything.

    • @HelloKittySGTC
      @HelloKittySGTC 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi Pretty much, have to wait to get some cannon. But it would blow me out of the water if Sly Cooper created all the generations

  • @kamencj
    @kamencj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great theory but there is one big hitch: Sly is stuck in ancient Egypt (look up the secret ending of thieves in time) so he has no way to time travel right now

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am fully aware ;)

    • @kamencj
      @kamencj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VtnVivi yeah checked out you other theory vids and now know you are aware lots of my friends even though they love the game series are literally surprised when I show them that

  • @Alphax222
    @Alphax222 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't add more to my comment cause it was too long so I edited some out but yea so while sly/Connor is in hiding (because he fake died) dr.M turned on him and planned to try to rob the cooper clan (sly 3) so he comes up with a plan to traps sly/Connor somehow & brainwashes mcsweeny into thinking sly/Connor died by the hands of the fiendish five (leading kid sly to handle the dr. M situation at the end of sly 3 all the while sly/Connor is still out there) and after the events of sly 1,2,&3 is when the gang deals with Penelope and the whole theory that vivi talked about in his past video now this is just my theory/opinion lol sucker punch could take what they want from these theories and put the pieces together with some of there own and make it all make sense yknow but it would be so cool if they did

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kliiko I like your ideas, they're pretty interesting!

  • @timisoderstrom5394
    @timisoderstrom5394 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you found sly father to the start

  • @j00na23
    @j00na23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is carmelita mother too sly cooper mother and is sly cooper dad too carmelita dad?

  • @alexkplays5001
    @alexkplays5001 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really enjoy ur videos but can u make a video about something about the movie anything i jusst want to know something about it plz i subbed by the way

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Alex k plays I was planing on making one tonight (status update) :) Oh and thanks!

    • @alexkplays5001
      @alexkplays5001 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      when is tonight plz tell me

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex k plays Probably around 11 p.m.-12:00 a.m EST

    • @alexkplays5001
      @alexkplays5001 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi ill be waiting [=

    • @alexkplays5001
      @alexkplays5001 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VtnVivi plz upload it soon

  • @raymond6845
    @raymond6845 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost wish Sly Cooper didn't add time travel to the story because it makes it SO hard to effectively finish the story without leaving any questions unanswered. If Sly 5 manages to do it then it will be the first time ANY time travel story has done so for me.
    (This is my third comment in 5 minutes. Sorry.)

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Raymond Davis I wasn't expecting time travel after Sly 3 at all, I mean the game feels simple right? However, I do believe time travel can expand the series, you know just to add variety (yes it complicates things); if games become too repetitive, fans start to complain. I love reading comments, no worries :P

  • @notsosmartguy6254
    @notsosmartguy6254 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My headcanon has always been that sly's mom was the daughter of of a mobboss and that she's still around and taking over her family business, she just rather Sly follow in her father's footsteps than become a mobboss.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Notsosmartguy 625 What if she's still alive? If so, then why would she abandon Sly? What if she sent him to the orphanage, in attempts of moving away from his life? That would just be sad though.

  • @davy6516
    @davy6516 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    in sly 3 there is a character from sly 1 the panda king. he could know what happend with his parents. I'm stil wondering why sly hasn't ask about it and why he killed them

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Rasengan Yeah!

  • @SPACEBRO1234
    @SPACEBRO1234 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    He says (sly) that his parents are killed. So I assume both of his parents died?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Space Bro123 (Spacebro123) We don't really know. ''We'' could simply mean the father and Sly.

  • @thebladeknight5253
    @thebladeknight5253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s stupid if Sly is Sly’s father then he would’ve worked with Dr M and Mcsweeny here’s my theory Sly’s father tells him the story of the theiveous raccoonus Sly’s mother could’ve been the damsel in distress giving the period of Conner’s adventures Sly’s mother could’ve been arrested as she was framed for killing Conner that way Sly could’ve been in the orphanage likely in witness protection

  • @rrmiko
    @rrmiko 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Sly 5 story is going to be sly founding his dad and mom with time machine

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like that to be honest, even if just we just see a glimpse of them, you know to keep that old tradition of not showing their faces.

  • @Mac.Aodhagain
    @Mac.Aodhagain 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Theory Gave Me A Headache.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Officialgamer_5 It can get confusing, you're not the only one :p

  • @supernt100
    @supernt100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be cool if in the next game sky meets his father

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To what extent is the question :)

    • @supernt100
      @supernt100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI true 0-0

  • @DelbelOfTheVoid
    @DelbelOfTheVoid 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if his parents didn't actually die but Sly didn't know and he found out they were lost in time.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if O_O

  • @jackster9775
    @jackster9775 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now what if Sly seeing his father's face triggers him and sets him off?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could.

  • @pandasuper4718
    @pandasuper4718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait but if sly was the father how could he steal the diamond/rubin

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's just say that was his biological father.

  • @chibiprussia5574
    @chibiprussia5574 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the movie will put Sly's parents in the movie somehow.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Chibi Prussia Some falshbacks maybe? Or the into of the movie might show the night of the attack.

  • @echostear4275
    @echostear4275 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I don't speak English very well, so I didn't understand the full meaning of the video. Does this theory say that Carmelita is Sly's mother? Sorry for the ignorance and thanks for understanding :)

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes something like that! You are not ignorant!!!!!! Basically, Sly and Carmelita travel to the past to raise young Sly.

  • @optimuscries9869
    @optimuscries9869 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    SMH, I hate it when writers don't know how to use time travel in a good way. Sanzaru games completely ruined Sly Cooper by introducing time travel. They were either oblivious of the outcome of using time travel. Or they didn't think there was anything wrong with messing up Sly's ancestorial history! What makes Sly Coopers family cool is that they had their own adventures just like Sly. They were a mystery and when you go to their time and meet them, well their lives change. Nothing is the same and any little situation can alter everything.(Butterfly effect) Since Sanzaru games made Penelope a potential bad guy. This means she has the capabilities like Bently to time travel. She could meddle in Sly's' past & in Sly's family lineage! This is why they shouldn't have went back in time. It all just becomes confusing. Sorry I went on a long rant, but this is what I do when I'm passionate about something. I grew up playing the first game when I was like six and now that I'm older, to see the series fail spectacularly is so sad. I want Sly to succeed and be enjoyable for both kids & adults. I just wish companies wouldn't look at Sly as a cash grab, but instead as a game series people care about.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, time travel is not the series' nature at all, they just went with what Bentley said at the end of Sly 3. Penelope can easily go back and could be the one who turned Clockwerk into metal! Thank you for sharing!

  • @ethansbae4029
    @ethansbae4029 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what if clockwerk took Sly to the orphanage?!?!? plot twist!!!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It all makes sense... :p

  • @crazigirl1011
    @crazigirl1011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I think it more possible that sly just takes after his father's taste in women... although that brings into question how exactly biology works in this world, but we sure never figured that out. While an interesting theory, I don't think there is enough evidence to support it thoroughly. A child looking like their parent isn't all that unsual, for one. Though a possibility, I would consider it more likely the creators are either saving the info or simply don't feel the need to expand on sly's parents, which is a shame.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing! It just feels like the creators wanted them to remain mysterious for some reason. Not showing their faces and a ripped portrait...why? It'd be cool to implement them in future games (if they happen). The game can easily expand just by answering some of these questions.

  • @BIGBEASTBATTLE
    @BIGBEASTBATTLE 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this theory is right sly raising himself. Then we also see slys death in thevious raccoonus

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad :(

  • @zeonater1016
    @zeonater1016 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sly says in sly 2 he watched clockwerk murder his parents

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did say that. This video is just going over a pretty far fetched theory.

  • @manbanasiak
    @manbanasiak 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure it wasn't Sly's son from the future? That could be possible.

    • @manbanasiak
      @manbanasiak 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any judgement?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michael Noble Sly's son from the future raising his own father O_o? Mind blown. Now that would be pretty crazy.

    • @manbanasiak
      @manbanasiak 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes indeed.

  • @thegreatwhite7773
    @thegreatwhite7773 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    crazy theory....i love and i never knew his real name was connor. thx man keep up he great work and keep the sly vids coming

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +thegreatwhite777 Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @HelloKittySGTC
    @HelloKittySGTC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sly is his own father. (Theory)