Black Swan Variation (Split Screen): Nunez, Osipova
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Black Swan Variation from The Swan Lake performed in split screen by Marianela Nunez and Natalia Osipova.
- SUPPORT us on Patreon and get more Extras 👇❤️
/ danceline
________________________________
For requests, feedbacks or infos, or if you think one of these content should be removed for any reason, do not hesitate to contact us at: staff.danceline@gmail.com
Follow us on:
Instagram: danceline_ig
Facebook: danceline.it
* This TH-cam channel may get commissions for purchases made through Amazon links above. Feel free to use them for supporting this channel.
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed ❤️🩰 Thank you!!
Nunez is beautiful, regal and elegant, whereas Osipova is seductive, bold and proud. Both are amazing dancers with impeccable techniques, but when I watch Nunez's version, I see Nunez with her usual skills and admire her gracefulness and control. But when I watch Osipova's version, I see Odile and I'm completely enthralled in the story. That's why with them side by side my eyes keep going to Osipova. She's just so captivating! She makes Odile come to life
Osipova is captivating. Hands down
I just kept staring at Osipova...she is unbelievable.
Love them both but Osipova is PHENOMENAL.
Totally adore both dancers! These performances are a perfect representation of the differences between the pure, clean RAD style and the dramatic, powerful Bolshoi style of ballet. Neither is better than the other, they’re just different approaches. If you truly love this art form, you should at least be able to get something out of both. It’s just what you prefer and it how affects you personally.
Marianela’s is so beautiful, so clean. I think it suffers somewhat from being taken out of context from her white swan, her performance of which is an absolute beacon of classical purity. So it makes sense that her Odile is more restrained; no, Siegfried is not a smart character, but is he really going to believe that his angelic Odette has suddenly become a completely unrestrained wild thing, especially after her behaviour and hesitance only moments ago by the lake? No, it wouldn’t make sense with Marianela’s portrayal of Odette.
I concede that Nunez’s interpretation is subtler than Osipova’s and I guess I could see how someone could find it boring - but for me, it’s regal, controlled, seductive, intensely musical. In the context of all 4 acts, I think it works spectacularly.
Side note: I find that it’s easy for Odile performances to become cliché, relying on an excess of smirking, back-crunching arabesques & extensions, dead flicked wrists… the list goes on. It’s not bad per-se, it’s just the obvious interpretation, a little overdone by now.
Anyways, onto Natalia. I’m not even an Osipova superfan so believe me when I say that tbh, she manages to transcend ballet. Once in a generation type thing. She absolutely comes alive onstage and becomes pure total dance energy, giving all of herself. No the technique isn’t neat and tidy, but it’s always raw and powerful.
Yeah, some of the Odile cliches are present and I suppose the technique could be more correct in places… but I don’t care! I look past the technique because she makes me forget about it. She becomes the character! In that moment, Osipova IS the black swan and I completely surrender to the story being told. I really recommend seeing her perform in the flesh if you can.
Hello, I'm new to watching these ballet vids and was wondering how to tell apart clean technique frod bad/mediocre?
@@thedankengine585 Welcome to the world of ballet! I think learning the good from the bad is something that’ll just come with time and the more you watch. I feel like no one talks about how in high-level professional ballet, there’s rarely outright terrible technique. It’s rather that it’s an art form where the demands are so high and people are looking for perfection, so keep that mind.
To develop an eye for technique, I recommend watching videos of rehearsals and classes, learning the names of some of the steps, watching students and videos of dancers at various stages of their careers, as well as different dancers performing the same piece.
Looking at pre-1990s performances is also a particularly good way to start ‘seeing’ ballet I think, as the best dancers from history were still clean, had solid placement, musicality, etc, but not the dazzling (and sometimes distracting) flexibility and turnout of today.
Some basic stuff to look out for: turned out legs and feet, straight knees, non-tilted hips, precise footwork, balance, stability, is it done in time with the music? Is there enough clarity between each move so the steps aren’t rushed and blurring into each other? I’d say get familiar with the basic 5 positions of ballet and look out for them in choreography, e.g do arms get sloppy in turns or jumps, are the feet and legs able to maintain turnout in fifth?
@@nomadfromkarlsruhe8259 LMAO true asf but couldn’t be further from reality. Sometimes you take an addy and just end up writing like 6 paragraphs about ballet is all 🤷
@@nomadfromkarlsruhe8259 What about the explanation smells like something a 60 year old lonely gay man would write? Or are you a 60 year old gay man?
@@thedankengine585 say the ghost of Niginsky?
I love how both make the role their own. The artistry, interpretation, musicality displayed by both is just gorgeous. Brilliant performances by both ladies. 🤯🩰🥰
Natalia makes such a bewitching black swan.. just those those sharper fingertips, sharper turns.. brought out the nuances of the black swan.
Watch her in Giselle. Absolute perfection 😌
Osipova has not only beautiful technique but really plays her characters with how she dances and her expression. Nunez is also a fantastic dancer but when i watch her play a role i dont think of the character i think nunez is dancing.
This! Exactly how I feel.
Nunez is divine here: a technical master, wonderful musicality. When I watch her dance I think,"What a pleasure to enjoy the art of such an exceptional dancer". Osipova is Odile. Watching her dance this role, I forget that I'm watching Natalia Osipova dance, I only see the character. For me, that tips the scale in her favor. I prefer Osipova's interpretation of Odile.
They are both so wonderful! I think whoever resonates with you the most depends on your vision of Odile. Osipova clearly has a young "Mean Girl" vibe, overtly flashy and malevolent...and there's nothing wrong with that! Nuñez is a more of a cool, calculating Mata Hari type seductress...she is in complete control and she knows it.
Exactly
Osipova is pure passion!!
My thoughts exactly
It’s an absolute privilege to have them both dancing here in London at the Royal Ballet - we are very lucky.
Indeed so. I've had the privilege of seeing both of them perform. I wonder if they get along well.
It's Osipova for me , her performance is mesmerising, 😮...but Nunez feet on the last turns... wow!
I really think that Osipova is one of the best ballerina in the world 🌎 thank you for sharing 👏
Natalia Osipova !!!
Ah Osipova.. my heart. I believe she is the best dancer of our age. Her artistry and gestures and of course technique is impeccable. Her legs ,her arches and turns..I mean, always believe that she slowes the gravity with her jumps..runs...And the Odile representation of her, I believe the one of her best. She owns the character whatever she displays it. Ex: giselle,carmen, Don Quichotte etc. but this one is so special, when you look at her eyes and arms you get the part, the story,the feeling. She is like full-package. Sexiness, Soul, Purity, Fire..She is everything we are so lucky to have her.
And Nunez! Of course she is too one the best dancers. I love her personality, and her technique is so so smooth she shows everything like it was easy. She is always so stable that; she has never second thoughts. She knows what's she been up to. Amazing control, amazing pointe work of her.
She always behaves like she has a lot of to show us to do. always like, "oh wait, I need to say with my eyes, my glances..my smile..my still-standing / never stumbled feet."
I love you ladies. You both amazing at your individual ways.
🌟
(my choice is Osipova btw. but so close with Nunez)
Interesting analysis, thanks for your comment 🥰
Agree wholeheartedly! Osipova makes ballet come alive ♡
Я не могла отвести взгляд от Натальи Осиповой. ♥ Она легка, технична и артистична, а какие невероятные у неё руки.
I don't dance ballet, but I love it with all my heart. Thank you for these videos.
Love how regal Nuñez looks, that's great for a white swan and roles like Raymonda; however, I find Osipova more wild, fierce, kind of an animal holding up her true identity; I love that for a black swan; she portraits a terrific Esmeralda.
Choreography of Osipova is better, but both are great!
Осипова точно понимает о чем танцует. Движения её Одилии такие мягкие по кошачьи, такие соблазнительные,очень чувствуется в ней женская сила. Наташа в роли Одилии такая манкая, чувственная, Зигфрида можно понять.И в тоже время видно, что она играет с чувствами принца, его мужской слабостью.
I agree. You must feel the threat from Odille at all times. You should be afraid. Natasha brings it. (Zakarova best, however.)
@@user-ci2re7wi1w , да, у Нетребко необычный был голос. А сейчас она занимается чесом.
Осипова гениальна!
@@operaguy1 Захарова - это линии.
Наташа Осипова божественна, нежна и коварна в роли Одиллии. Браво!
Hm…Interesting! Nunez is so wonderfully regal. Osipova is otherworldly. My eye kept going to Osipova, but it’s impossible to compare them. Both goddesses.
non so più che dire sulla Osipova...quando danza lei,attira su di sé ogni luce,ogni interesse...e gli occhi riescono a guardare e vedere Solo Lei...
non so perché...ma è una magia che si ripete ogni volta,che la si veda di persona o in un video...lei ogni volta,non Danza il Personaggio...non lo Interpreta...LEI È ODILE...ODETTE...KITRY...LA BAYADER...GUSELLE ecc...ecc...ti afferra e ti trascina nella Storia,ti accosta emotivamente a Lei,ti rende un partecipante Nella Narrazione, sul Palcoscenico come se fosse realtà, facendoti vivere in ogni Tempo...oltre Ogni Tempo...e tu ne sei rapita/o...e non puoi più niente di fronte a questa Eccellenza più Unica che Rara. Signori...sarò ripetitiva,ma pur essendo tutte Perfette,queste immense Danzatrici... nessuna può competere con Lei.
Осипова самая лучшая! Браво Наташа!
La Nuñez tiene una técnica y una limpieza en los movimientos que la hace brillar, pero Osipova me hace vivir el momento, su interpretación es maravillosa.. las 2 hermosas bailarinas
Osipova is the best! Love her!!
Osipova is incomparable. She is the goddess 🙌🙌🙌💕
Both have their unique attributes, but I prefer the regal quality and elegance of Nunez.
Nunez is regal but almost too ‘proper’. Osipova is mesmerizing and otherworldly.
Nunez очень величава, выверенные движения, очень красивые руки, она как-будто приподносит миру себя, говоря: вот я какая. Осипова - вся интрига, где-то игривая, где-то шаловливая, манкая, легкая, и говорящая "я вся - сплошной фейервер и подарок". Вот так я воспринимаю этих двух красавиц в этом балете.
Ну какая интрига? Гимнастика и всё.
Osipova’s musicality just makes it feel so much more real. I definitely enjoyed hers more
Osipova manages to combine crisp with light and soft, she is perfection..
Osipova is Odile here. Her dance moves me and makes me feel I'm somewhere ese! Love love love her 💕 I adore her musicality so much.
Nuñez is never my cup of tea.
slauyyyy
I know, so many people absolutely adore Nuñez but I can just never warm up to her dancing very well. Osipova is just fantastic, and the true black swan!
Ballet is so amazing. So much dedication, work and skill. Hats of to all who ballet.
Natalia Osipova este perfectă.
I love Osipova.
Sicuramente due grandi ballerine. In questa variazione penso che la Nunez sia "la tecnica" quindi più "fredda" mentre la Osipova è la sensualità, la fantasia e si sposa molto con il personaggio che deve rappresentare e quindi il ruolo di ammaliatrice..... Comunque brave!
Love both of 'em! may be Osipova a little bit more. Thank You!
Осипова однозначно!
La Nuñez, perfection.
I love the idea of these split screens, it helps me find the version I prefer of the variations I study
The Osipova choreography looked better here, less “flappy”, allowing more time to sit in the movement and emote. It made it more captivating.
Nunez is just perfection!
С Осиповой вобще мало кто может сравниться - она летает над сценой... Парит и порхает - лёгкость необыкновенная в движениях!
Osipova's explosive energy, Nunez's intensity-- they're both incredible!
This is absolutely one of the most beautiful roles ever- in ANY variation. It is so breathtaking and entrancing.
La Nunez, the quality of it all!
So wonderful seeing 2 icons side by side like this. Thank you for putting this together!
Left side seemed more technical right side seemed more graceful and fluid in her movements. Both AMAZING dancers 😍.
Osipova is already a different level from mostly of the top ballerina, her control body and her unique facial expression give extra bonus points.
Osipova reminds me of Plisetskaya... a great actor/dancer... an artist. Someone who never just dances steps but always makes them about something and is completely integrated with the music. Nunez is a lovely ballerina but, like so many current dancers, she doesn't move me.
I'm in Love with both,But Nunez control is phenomenal!!!
In an interview in 2018 - - Natalia Osipova said: "I must do my own work because - - I will never look convincing or natural - - if the role is forced upon me". " . . . but there is a great deal of my own self in my characters". If so - - Osipova's Odile runs true to form❗️ Her technique is perfect - - and she's a great trouper - - too. OTOH Marianela Núñez's interpretation of Odille is seductive and heartless - - and she dances - - just as beautifully - - and she has an amazing control❗️ Both Osipova and Núñez - - are superb principal dancers. Thank you for sharing - - @ DanceLine Ballet.
You can tell they had different training, Osipova is more energetic and attacks the role whereas Nunez is softer and more "reserved" with the upper body
La Nunez, sooo regal !!!!!!!!! Fabulous ballerina 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩💐💐💐💐🎉🎉🎉🎉🩰🩰🩰🩰
Sin ser experta, Osipova, tiene una encantadora delicadeza en cada uno de sus movimientos, una extraordinaria sensibilidad y gracia. Pero ambas han trabajado mucho para lograr esa perfección.
Marianela is very regal but a bit too technical and slow whilst Natalia is much more black swanny but has wild foot work and a bit too much power. All in all I don't like either of their black swans but I would pick Marianela for her elegance and subtly
In questo ruolo Osipova è la migliore❤
Both are phenomenal dancers that have beautiful technique, but I like the choreography of Osipova better 👌🏾
Nela all the way
From 1:00 to 1:20 is where Natalia shows just another level. She is a black swan.
Thank you for this great comparison of two very talented and charismatic dancers. It would be a pleasure watch either one live on stage. ❤❤🌹🌹
Osipova is beautiful ❤️ but, my attention is on Marianela all the time.
Осипова великолепна! Браво!
Although I truly admire both ballerinas, I would spontaneously say, that this role in particular suits Natalia more.....to that, both have an absolute different technique,
exactly that makes it always so interesting.👍😃
Thank you for the great video ❤️👌
Both absolutely STUNNING, BRILLIANT !
Cannot take
My eyes off the Nunez screen to even watch the other girl
Couldn’t take my eyes off Nunez 💕
Nunez for me.
Nuñez shows us what delicacy and finesse is
Nunez ❤
Me encanta como Osipova juega con las expresiones y su manera de bailar, pero la técnica y delicadeza de Nunez es fantástica, las dos representan muy bien el personaje a su manera.
Love them both, impecable Nela and powerful Natalia.
Che gran piacere poter vedere contemporaneamente queste grandi ballerine...... Grazie grazie davvero. Spero tu possa fare questa cosa anche con altri artisti... Maschi e femmine
Schade, dass die Videoqualität so unterschiedlich ist, denn das hat Einfluss auf unsere Wahrnehmung. Interessant, wo mehr Wert auf die choreografische Umsetzung der Musik gelegt wird.
So pretty! I think I like the Nunez choreography more, especially the arm accents with the turns toward the end (sorry, not a ballet dancer so don't know the terminology)
Ohhhh how beautiful to see them side by side. 💗💗
Osipova. She is more feminine, has a wide range of emotions, is very elegant, gentle and stylish.
Both beautiful performances! One had more flair, but the other had a beautiful clean technique! Both amazing!
Thanks!
This is the one role I've liked Osipova in. It suits her self-absorption ...
self-absorption?
Fascinating opportunity to compare/ contrast!
Both are pure perfection. A joy to watch.
Lejos pero muy lejos Natalia , carisma , gracia , contextura estatura , histriónica , tecnica y un talento incomparable ......DIOSA DEL BALLET. desde Chile 🇨🇱 un saludo
Both are equally wonderful !! Bravo to both..💐
Núñez has incredible control, and particularly in the ending part she looked incredible, flawless. But as someone who doesn’t know much about ballet - a casual consumer, if you will - Opisova’s performances have so much life, so much passion, so much delight.
Nunes танец очень элегантный.
Both are incredible!, wonderful, brilliant dancers!
Nunez is graceful
Can't wait to see them both in this role at the ROH this year 💜💜💜
Agree that they're both magnificent but Natalia oozes evil like the black swan should.
От Осиповой нельзя оторваться.
Personally Nela :)
Son maravillosas pero Osipova se mete en el papel !!!
Осипова в этом видео однозначно прима, отточенные движения, уверенность и грация, настоящая Одиллия), танцовщице слева - не хватает внутреннего огня для передачи такого взрывного темперамента)
I'm a big fan of both! Different aproach to the piece, but neither of them is superior or inferior. I respect and admire really much their work and artistry.
Nunez makes me crying as always
Осипова точно Одиллия. По характеру. Технически обе супер)
Осипова техничнее.
To me Núñez is much more graceful.
Nunez all day 🤩
Osipova!! 🔥