i honestly think this would completely save the scene and allow it to grow while they work on a sequel but if i understand it correctly, adding rollback is no small expense and would take a ton of time and QA that i doubt cygames wants anything to do with after the game flopped so incredibly hard. theyre a gambling game studio interested in relatively short gains so it's hard to see them fronting all that expense both to fix the existing game and fund a new one they could, theyre rich as fuck from exploiting gamblers, but would they? eh
To be honest, ArcSys popping out games like crazy, at this point their main competition is their own games. Capcom was in that situation ones too. I hope they will support Strive for long, I don't want to switch yet.
IDK, I don't really feel like fighting games have direct competition like that. Most everyone I know in the FGC gets whatever game that comes out as long as the consensus isn't that it's terrible or if it's the newest in a series. Buy a game at launch, try out its mechanics, decide if you want to build a home or not, repeat at new release. Like, SO many people bought Strive and Melty back to back, probably bought NASB, and then are going to pick up KOFXV without batting an eye. Just like a lot of people who bought those games are gonna come back to BBCF or pick it up for the first time bc of the Rollback patch.
Always makes me sad that the game didn’t do as well as I think it could have, the artstyle is gorgeous, the music is fantastic and the amount of creativity put into the game was something else, shame
In a nutshell its just a marketing promotional game for the gacha game it based on, of course they won't put a lot of resources on gbvs when GBF make more money than entire fg industry combined.
The other thing that keeps the game alive is that Granblue Fantasy is a huge IP in Japan, and still recognizable worldwide in the anime community. It still has a chance to return in full force once everything opens up again, but it'll be tough going up against newer releases that will try to take the same spotlight. But there's been stories of older FGs coming back (MvC2/MvC3, Melty Blood Actress Again, Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax, etc) so GBVS can easily be one of those. GBVS is a game I wanted to get into (because I play the original browser game) but the online did take away my motivation to play. I want this to come back though.
Yeah, I'm hoping that having the numbers from BBCF and Cross Tag coming from Arcsys themselves is enough to make Cygames decide to invest in rollback for GBFV.
"Recognizable worldwide in the anime community" is A HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE overstatement. Outside of Japan it's a ultra niche IP.
@@geminusleonem9365 It's not "ultra niche", it's got a pretty successful following and earning decently, at least til gacha fatigue rolled in. Heck, if GBF is ultra niche, what do you call the more obscure but living gacha games.
@@maxchaos44 geyshit impact best living gacha game of century but point is that all cygames gachas alive and at decent state even if you compare to some more dead games like gfl which still can be counted as alive gbf just old and you cant count it as niche just cos kids want to play something new or better to say gbf not even outdated like fgo
@@orangepotato2112 yup, as well as CoreA Gaming. Those are some of my favorites. Even the content creators for FGC like BlastedSalami and Jiyuna are amazing and put in so much effort into their content.
As someone who's been playing the Granblue mobile game casually since 2016, I was super hyped about this and even got to participate in the network tests before its release. It's super unfortunate how world events caused GBFVS to somewhat fade into obscurity. I absolutely love Granblue's characters and lore and GBFVS seemed to be poised to introduce the Granblue universe to a wider audience. I'm not much of a fighting game player myself because of RSI that I've been dealing with since 2012 from playing tons of FPS games, but I can't help but cheer on FGC players from the sidelines. Here's to hoping that we may someday see a sequel to GBFVS somewhere in the future, or possibly rollback in the current game.
It would definitely help if the game was ever on sale. I know Arc system has no qualms about putting their games on sale but granblue must be allergic to sales.
Arksys didn't published Granblue but XSeed/Cygames. Yesterday, I buyed GG Strive on 40 dollars brand new. On the other hand GBF Versus never had any price drop considering the game it's already two years old.
Either they could add rollback or if that's too difficult start a sequel and build the new game with rollback. I'm guessing it'll be the latter, but I don't see any reason for the game to die out completely. I am hoping the same thing happens for Samurai Shodown as well and I am guessing it will also be a sequel that has rollback since building it in place from the start is much more doable than reworking an existing game.
They lost their chance, they just killed the game with the latest patch. Not even rollback will save it. They need a second game or just let it die already.
@@furryfox12 Average "We just gonna take out already existing options and make even simpler a simple game" even japanese players did not like it, the game has been taking away things that made it fun to "balance" the game. This game was really simple, if you still take away kinda tricky things or options that you can do (ie. with Percival's Forward + Skill if you reacted in time you could get past fireballs, now this is gone) then you take away things that make the game fun little by little (tbh, almost everypatch since season 1 has been making this game more and more boring)
6:55 technically it was an 11 character roster Beelzebub was locked behind story and still had to be added to the game a little after launch Also Vira isn't the last DLC character, there's at least on more coming after her based on the end of the Seox trailer (on the official granblue fantasy channel)
Gbvs was the first fighting game I ever played and what got me into fighters to begin with, it feels bad i got into it so late but still enjoyed the heck out of it for the short time I played. I still believe that 1 good update can revive the game (even for just a short time) so lets hope vira is that spark to rekindle the gbvs fire
the only thing they need to update is the netcode so that people can actually play playable matches online. can't even get a good match with people I live in the same city with
I remember being so hyped for this game! I do hope its gameplay finds it's way into future games, since having the risk-reward strategies between motion inputs and single direction inputs for specials was such a great idea.
I love GBVS. Played it for a long time it's one of my favorite fighting games. There was a confluence of factors that tanked it. First up, the release schedule: Launching first in Japan, then a month later in the US, then another month later in the EU (the first DLC characters were out before the game even released in EU) was not a good decision, especially for a fighting game where everyone should start on even grounds. Then, of course Covid and the games' netcode - I personally never had much of a problem with online matches but it was obviously a big problem for a lot of other people. Finally, the pricing is a factor that should not be underestimated. It is a full price title with a small roster and it rarely goes on sale and has 2 expensive season passes which also rarely go on sale plus additional paid stage dlc and battle passes on top of that. Cygames is just asking too much for what they are offering. I'm happy the community is still soldiering on, though. Game is great and it's nice to see it doing well at CEO.
I definitely get the sale part: I REALLY want to give it a shot, I do, but I'm more of a casual player and while I would love to play, I can't see myself spending 60 bucks on a game that I might not play much + more on dlc that I might never use. If they had a good sale for both base game and total dlc, I would totally try it, but I'm jut too scared to get into a game as someone who just plays them casually.
There was a small window where the game was half off in GAME (UK retailer) so I snagged it then. Had fun with it but I didn't find myself returning to it a lot, maybe I should go back to it?
This game was the first game that made me WANT to give fighting games a go,i'm bad with imputs like,V E R Y B A D and i couldn't believe how fun it was being able to play a fighting game like this one,i said to my self back then "goddang,i'm actually being able to play a fighting game,AND I'M HAVING FUN" while playing with my friends that know more than me but are still the casual of the casuals. For a game to achieve that,allow a player bad at the genre to properly play and have fun,i think its amazing specially in a genre that is soo hard to get into such as the fighting genre,with or without multiplayer its a game i'll always come back to when i want to have fun solo or with my friends in a game of this genre,its just that good of a game and i'm happy it exists.
I'm kinda curious about why are you having trouble with a quarter circle or a half circle motion input. I'm sure you're doing plenty of hard stuff or motions every day in your life but why it doesn't click when it's about fighting games motions. Is it the timing when you press a quarter circle and a button at the same time maybe ?
Fighting games are easy to get into as long as the game has a good tutorial - such as almost every arcsystem fighting game - and you're willing to accept you will most likely be bad when you start. A game should never cater to new players as it takes away the fun from the existing player base (like what Strive did by killing what make Guilty Gear fun). You need to have a game that you can pick up and learn whilst also having a high skill ceiling - Guilty Gear Xrd, Under Night in Birth and Blazblue Central Fiction all fit this very well yet people don't play these games due to lack of promotion and no rollback netcode,
I remember hearing about this game when it was first revealed because of how nice the game looked and because it was an Arc Systems game, but I almost heard nothing after the release. It's unfortunate why it lost a lot of its playerbase, it seemed like it could've been a cool game with a hopefully good competitive scene. Hopefully they do a big sale for the game at one point and implement rollback netcode
Side note. Arcsys fighting games look nice but at this point they all look the same. Like... I saw one of the dfo characters and it took me a moment to realize it wasn't a new GG character because of how GG characters are designed. The style imo works for DragonBall because it's basically the same thing we've seen since raging blast. But granblue? Even GG? There's a lot of good artstyles used. 3d rendering and animation is nice but at this point there isn't much stylization it's the FGC equivalent of the super realistic Ubisoft-EA-Activision-etc. game. It's only one publisher, but it's all blending together and only the designs of the characters keep them different not the artstyle of the game itself. Like imagine if GG strive went more like how the art in accent core went. Or granblue with some of the older more stylized art that isn't so close to the vast majority of the anime ascetic today as the newer art is. Heck even looking more like that would be nice. Even DFO probably could benefit though I don't play or know it so it's what it is. Though of course they won't since this is their pump out fgs for IP engine. Similar to how a lot of JRPGs today look the same it's just stale but if it's fast and works just use character design and some drawn art here and there in the game to put the style the in game graphics lack in. But I dunno just an issue I see in the games industry in general. Maybe I'm just more keen seeing the halo war over art style. Didn't mean to go this long but what is your take?
@@tbc1880 Hm, I've never really thought about it but I can definitely see where you're coming from. I'm personally ok with it at least right now because I still find the artstyle very fun but I can understand not liking how similar it has been for the past few games
I think they've had like 2 sales since the game launched lmao. I bought the game and all the DLC on one sale and have been keeping an eye out for my friends when it happens again
@@KenBladehart the newer art lacks... the stylistic flavor of the older art. But the newer art has better mass appeal and set dressing. Ideally it would have kept the bones of the older art and added the spice of newer art. But to me it's very similar to most anime art I see. Though when I say that I'm not meaning literally from an animation.
I picked up GBVS after wanting to branch off from my main game Pokken. It's sad that it released at such an unfortunate time, which did make me stop playing after a few months with the lack of offlines. However, I'm very excited to start playing again with offlines coming back! Funnily, this video came out during CEO and that got over 200 entrants! I think the future has a chance of being bright, it does depend on what else they announce with Vira, if anything.
Oh, I never noticed that "Pokemon Tekken" is called "Pokken" outside of Germany. But I understand why! Because the word "Pokken" is the German name of the Smallpox infectious diseases. :D
It's funny, I found myself coming back to GBFVS after not finding it all that great at launch, and after Type: Lumina? Loved this game suddenly. It's unfortunate I can't find an online match pretty much ever, but I'm still having a ball - even with the base roster. I hope rollback gets added like with CF and Crosstag so that maybe this game gets a second wind.
If the publisher had guts I would make it 60% off for 2 weeks and make a dev vlog/event out of it. Or free2play with 3 characters. But nvm it doesnt have roleback.
@@maegnificant No GG in the sense that it's already lost at this point. Nowadays, a fighting game NEEDS (I put an emphasis on the *NEEDS* part here) a good online experience. And not just in one small part of the world, being able to be playable all around the world is a necessity.
I f*cking love Granblue Fantasy Versus. Solid gameplay, gorgeous graphics, music, presentation, great content all typical of an ASW titles, but... that sketchy and limiting netcode is a problem, especially in a time period where we relied on internet gaming so much due to the pandemic regulations which are getting better now, but at the height of it, it made things for this wonderful game challenging. It would be in their best interests to REALLY consider rollback netcode to revitalize this title. It doesn't deserve to retired anytime soon.
What a nice timing. I was recently reminiscing over granblue fantasy vs and how beautiful it looks. I think it might be a good time to hop into it again as the Vira DLC will be coming this month as well.
and years later its getting a new opportunity with granblue fantasy vs rising, i like the gbf ip, i hope the new game turns into a big one in the fighting scene
Yeah Covid made sure the game didn't get a good start, But it was Cygames who made sure it never thrived. Granblue's Fantasy Versus has gone on-sale less than 5 times in its entire life span. Meaning if a newcomer wanted to catchup and get all the DLC characters, They would have to spend around $125 dollars. The problem above could be alleviated with a special edition or complete edition like it was for BBTAG but i don't see Cygames letting that happen.
And $125 is only for US potential buyers, other countries could have it worse. In Canada gbvs is $90 for the game and $40 for each pass. So after tax it's over $180 to have everything...
I really wish this game got some more love. This was my first fighting game ever and I loved playing it for the few months it was alive upon release. I really wish they revive the online part of game.
This game was SOO hyped that 5 people with ps4s came in to my local trading card shop and hooked up 5 Hong Kong versions just to play early and it was great. And then covid came
09:40 They also (finally) started putting the game on sale, just a shame that it took so long despite the clear need for it. I had the game wishlisted on Steam since its release in 2020, but it was never worth picking up for me until it got the -55% discount in autumn 2021. What especially surprised me was that the game's singleplayer is actually decent, which is almost unheard of among fighting games.
I LOVE Granblue character designs, they are amazing. I hope Arcsys give us rollback netcode now that Blazeblue rollback got announced, so there is still hope.
"The Fighting Game That Never Got A Chance" Saw the bloody thing release at over £50 and I was just straight up like: "Nope. Goodbye, discord fighter!"
It's the most simple fitting system I've learned. I have a good grasp of most the characters I feel and focuses more on your choices and combos vs learning a 10 step combo
Granblue has definitely been one of my favorite fighting games in a good while. Loved playing Lowain to death despite his shortcomings early on, and the pace of fights were great. Having meterless EX moves with the only downside being the move was on CD for some time meant a meter hoarder like me had an excuse to just do cool EX moves in combos and not have to worry about meter management and giving up doing supers just to do a combo. It's a real shame the online era had to put granblue to the test, and I'll definitely be checking back in once Vira drops, but man it really does suck that GBVS had to be the poster child of "no rollback no buy" for a good while.
Dude I would've bought this game 100% but godamn is the price never down. I think a sale would seriously get some new players cause it looks so fucking good
Bought this game 3 days ago and started the anime 4 day ago, i'm actually enjoying it, i really like the movesets of the characters especiallly Belial, Lowain and Ferry
Literally one of the most robbed games of all time next to Titanfall 2. Greedy pricing, covid preventing its EVO spot, no rollback. This game has such an incredible art style and soundtrack, every character is fun and I love the simple inputs/cooldowns as a way of accessability. I still play the game to this day.
I initially wrote it off at first thinking "i suck at fighting games so why should i bother" but after some research and hearing people saying its more accessible i am hopefully optimisitic to try it. I mean bro look at those animations holy fuck 🤩
Great video. After months considering getting GBVs I finally took the opportunity to get it taking advantage of the PS Plus and I gotta say it's a great game that unfortunately was released in a bad moment. The fact that I'm also a fan of the anime also adds tp the hype. Hope it gets a second chance somehow. It's very difficult to find people playing online unfortunately
Man. Finally made time and Just got this game. Transitioning to fight sticks. I'm really hyped to get this game going finally. And it at Evo this year definitely popped off and I hope it brings the hype back!
I just wanted to say you made a perfect introduction under less than a minute. Props to you for not simply using generic intro for 30 seconds and then read the script afterwards
I legit feel bad for this game. I owned it and just never got into it on an actual fighting game level. I played like 12 matches online alone and much later, a few with a friend... but that was it. I played the single player beat em up mode waaaaay more oddly enough. I feel if online was better, I might've been more motivated to really give it a try. also doesn't help in some ways when you have no attachment to the franchise in any way either.
its a fun game. everything in it works great. I loved how i could learn a couple things for each character and go online and fight decently cause stuff was logical, happened at a comprehensible speed and looked cool... Too bad there was no one to play with in my country and im not buying a fichting game without Rollback ever again.
"Never got a chance" isn't really true when the game's expensive with a small roster, has overpriced DLC, and bad netcode. I'm hoping fighting game devs will learn from this and adjust so that good games are playable online.
Pretty much. This isn't a game that never got that much traction mainly due to circumstances and luck getting on it's way at every chance, I'd say the biggest factor that made it lose a lot of ground quickly were the lack of content on release, rarely going on sale while keeping a high cost despite how many months have passed since it's release, the many questionable balance patches and the hopelessly outdated netcode, all of which are the game's fault.
@@FrMZTsarmiral Those were all factors, but the biggest one was still Covid. The game was *not* marketed in the West because they thought that tournaments were going to sell the game.
As someone who's fallen off of fighting games for years now it is nice that GBF is something that I can easily just play and understand. The combos aren't too deep, but the fact that the Cooldown system makes it more interact. Plus GBF is still one of the few games I play regularly so it helped that it was a recognizable IP for me.
when it first came out my local scene gave a it a bug chance we were all getting into it there was like 20 of us all playing and getting really into it but then I remember that's when covid got really really serious and tourneys were called off for a while
I’m glad I saw this, I had no reference for Granblue and had been avoiding it but it looks like a fun game so now I’m thinking I’ll grab it if it’s on sale
In terms of aestetics and style GranBlue Fantasy Versus is by far the more outstanding of all, all in this game is top niche, music and graphics so beautiful, superb animations, all polish to a the highest extent, for that reason even I have no time to play I buy it and will keep buying any DLS of this game to the very end
@@returnedtomonkey8886 Are you one of those people who think a fighting game is struggling because it doesn't have has many players as COD or something? Strive is doing great, and DNF has nothing to worry about yet.
@@bobjones5939 Strive was one of the most over-hyped fighting games ever and still lost 5/6 of it's player base in half a year despite constant developer support and influencer shilling.
I never got a chance with it because it didn't release on Xbox or Switch. The cooldown mechanic is neat and the 12 character roster had plenty of awesome looking characters, but the game never released on any of my systems of choice. Great coverage of it and it was interesting for you to explain it's circumstances with a comparison to Street Fighter V. It's also really nice that this video ends on a hopeful and upbeat note.
I dunno, I appreciate that a lot of people like GB and still go to bat for it and it was a lot of folks first fg, but just about everyone I actually know of multiple skill levels found it interesting for a minute but then incredibly boring really fast. I think they pushed the simplicity a little too far imo
Cygames has BILLIONS of Dollars generated from the mobile game. They need to add rollback. Maybe re-release the game with all dlc + roll back on next gen.
Yea maybe "definitive" edition like SFV arcade edition for example is good option for GBFVS. Let that version have rollback and all previous characters included (plus adding new ones ofc). Then put older ver on sale too. Same exact tactic SFV did. To some extent it works.
Arc sys has said they would like to add rollback, but would need cygames to sign off on it which is looking unlikely atm but we’ll see. I think maybe if they see bbcf and bbtag rollback additions being successful it might happen.
It has to be decided on early on in development or else it will be a nightmare to implement afterwards. GBFVS was made in a time where offline play was prioritized over *online so that’s probably why we won’t see it get rollback anytime soon.
I have to say. I'm asbolutely terrible at fighting games, don't know any of those fancy terms used, etc. But I do love GBFVS. The visuals and artstyle are gorgeous, music is nothing short of fantastic, very good setting and thematic, and incredibly fun and intuitive gameplay for noobs like me. I have been playing it alone lately, and it breaks my heart how this faded into obscurity for the most part. Something has to be done about this title. It can't just die like that. It has to be brought back to life. Please add the rollback and put the game on sales more often. It's far too expensive atm.
I didn't play Granblue only because I JUST got into fighting games with Season 3 of DBFZ. So I was busy learning anything about fighting games for the first time to hop onto a new one. But now that it's been a couple years and I'm deeper into the fgc I do somewhat regret missing out on GB. It looks amazing and probably is. I would for sure pmay a sequel in the future.
Man everytime I see a new video from this channel I just want to jump back Into fighting games again! I've had DBFZ on my switch for almost a year and I've barely touched it!
Well I mean BBCF and BBTAG just got Rollback Netcode announced for next year, and hype for those older titles is returning and bringing hope for potential future interest and updates, one can only hope GranBlue can get that much needed second wind. Great vid, and good info.
- ArcSys fighter "Oh boy, this is gonna be great!" - Based on a mobile game with no overseas presence - Down-to-earth fundamentals based - No rollback - Expensive "O-oh..."
I do believe once Riot games releases their fighting game, online gameplay is going to be one of the biggest emphasis that they're going to improve throughout its game's lifecycle. And a big company like Riot games, who mainly focuses their games using the network, I won't be surprised
I think the game is pretty much done, it came out at around a rough time, launched with few characters, there's not much room for creativity in the game in terms of combos. I don't think rollback will be enough to save the game
It's so unfortunate since the Granblue versus got everything going for them like EVO spot but the pandemic came right before its big tournament debut. Hope for the best for Granblue.
1. Add Rollback 2. 50% Sale (25% wont cut it as the DLCs are expensive AF!) 3. Watch the popularity rise again!
%50 wont cut it.
4. Give up
They squeezed out most of the fun with successive patches, nothing short of a miracle re-balance and amazing rollback would bring some people back.
Won't last long. Developers destroyed the game play
i honestly think this would completely save the scene and allow it to grow while they work on a sequel
but if i understand it correctly, adding rollback is no small expense and would take a ton of time and QA that i doubt cygames wants anything to do with after the game flopped so incredibly hard. theyre a gambling game studio interested in relatively short gains so it's hard to see them fronting all that expense both to fix the existing game and fund a new one
they could, theyre rich as fuck from exploiting gamblers, but would they? eh
To be honest, ArcSys popping out games like crazy, at this point their main competition is their own games. Capcom was in that situation ones too. I hope they will support Strive for long, I don't want to switch yet.
IDK, I don't really feel like fighting games have direct competition like that. Most everyone I know in the FGC gets whatever game that comes out as long as the consensus isn't that it's terrible or if it's the newest in a series. Buy a game at launch, try out its mechanics, decide if you want to build a home or not, repeat at new release.
Like, SO many people bought Strive and Melty back to back, probably bought NASB, and then are going to pick up KOFXV without batting an eye. Just like a lot of people who bought those games are gonna come back to BBCF or pick it up for the first time bc of the Rollback patch.
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wait im confused
whats the GG being played now, its Strive or Xrd 2?
@@SeaSerpentLevi Strive, its probably the most popular arcsys game yet
@@gustavofrancis2105 You can take probably out of that statement. DBFZ probably had longer peak, but Strive's peak player base on steam is bonkers.
This video aged like a fine wine, granblue fantasy versus rising is here, we are so back
Always makes me sad that the game didn’t do as well as I think it could have, the artstyle is gorgeous, the music is fantastic and the amount of creativity put into the game was something else, shame
Hands down, imo the best looking FG
The game was just a fanservice for the actual game.
And from the art director of final fantasy like the music composer, this game deserve more attention UwU
@@skyuru why not playing the Gacha game instead? Its arguably one of the best classic turn based rpg out there.
In a nutshell
its just a marketing promotional game for the gacha game it based on, of course they won't put a lot of resources on gbvs when GBF make more money than entire fg industry combined.
The other thing that keeps the game alive is that Granblue Fantasy is a huge IP in Japan, and still recognizable worldwide in the anime community. It still has a chance to return in full force once everything opens up again, but it'll be tough going up against newer releases that will try to take the same spotlight.
But there's been stories of older FGs coming back (MvC2/MvC3, Melty Blood Actress Again, Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax, etc) so GBVS can easily be one of those. GBVS is a game I wanted to get into (because I play the original browser game) but the online did take away my motivation to play. I want this to come back though.
Yeah, I'm hoping that having the numbers from BBCF and Cross Tag coming from Arcsys themselves is enough to make Cygames decide to invest in rollback for GBFV.
"Recognizable worldwide in the anime community" is A HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE overstatement. Outside of Japan it's a ultra niche IP.
It's less of anime community and more of Mobage comms.
The 'anime' is eh, average at best.
@@geminusleonem9365 It's not "ultra niche", it's got a pretty successful following and earning decently, at least til gacha fatigue rolled in. Heck, if GBF is ultra niche, what do you call the more obscure but living gacha games.
@@maxchaos44 geyshit impact best living gacha game of century
but point is that all cygames gachas alive and at decent state even if you compare to some more dead games like gfl which still can be counted as alive
gbf just old and you cant count it as niche just cos kids want to play something new or better to say gbf not even outdated like fgo
The FGC honestly has some of the best video essay/documentary style videos on it and I love them so much. So interesting and entertaining to watch.
I agree, Leon Massey for example
@@orangepotato2112 yup, as well as CoreA Gaming. Those are some of my favorites. Even the content creators for FGC like BlastedSalami and Jiyuna are amazing and put in so much effort into their content.
Y’all should check out Eddventure for video essays and stuff (Leon is cool too)
As someone who's been playing the Granblue mobile game casually since 2016, I was super hyped about this and even got to participate in the network tests before its release. It's super unfortunate how world events caused GBFVS to somewhat fade into obscurity. I absolutely love Granblue's characters and lore and GBFVS seemed to be poised to introduce the Granblue universe to a wider audience. I'm not much of a fighting game player myself because of RSI that I've been dealing with since 2012 from playing tons of FPS games, but I can't help but cheer on FGC players from the sidelines. Here's to hoping that we may someday see a sequel to GBFVS somewhere in the future, or possibly rollback in the current game.
It would definitely help if the game was ever on sale. I know Arc system has no qualms about putting their games on sale but granblue must be allergic to sales.
Wouldn't CyGames also have to agree to a sale or slmething since they're the ip holder? Maybe that effects how often they can put the game on sale
Unlike Blazblue and Guilty Gear, ArcSys didn’t publish Granblue, Cygames and XSeed Games so it’s up to them
@@Gxmwp its a fanservice game ehat you can expect? I mean the cost of suptix in gbf gacha was more costly than the gbvs itself.
Arksys didn't published Granblue but XSeed/Cygames.
Yesterday, I buyed GG Strive on 40 dollars brand new. On the other hand GBF Versus never had any price drop considering the game it's already two years old.
It's had a couple Steam sales for the game and DLC, and a few PSN sales for the base game, but only one PSN sale for the DLC when it was half off.
Either they could add rollback or if that's too difficult start a sequel and build the new game with rollback. I'm guessing it'll be the latter, but I don't see any reason for the game to die out completely. I am hoping the same thing happens for Samurai Shodown as well and I am guessing it will also be a sequel that has rollback since building it in place from the start is much more doable than reworking an existing game.
They lost their chance, they just killed the game with the latest patch. Not even rollback will save it. They need a second game or just let it die already.
It’s not worth the money for the company, adding rollback to a modern game like this would cost too much and won’t make up the money in sales
@@NoMoarNoMoar What was in the new patch?
@@NoMoarNoMoar As someone who didn't follow Granblue news at all, how did the last patch kill the game?
@@furryfox12 Average "We just gonna take out already existing options and make even simpler a simple game" even japanese players did not like it, the game has been taking away things that made it fun to "balance" the game. This game was really simple, if you still take away kinda tricky things or options that you can do (ie. with Percival's Forward + Skill if you reacted in time you could get past fireballs, now this is gone) then you take away things that make the game fun little by little (tbh, almost everypatch since season 1 has been making this game more and more boring)
gbvs is one of those games that i'm always gonna wish got a chance. every time i pick it up, it's always fun.
Yup
6:55 technically it was an 11 character roster
Beelzebub was locked behind story and still had to be added to the game a little after launch
Also
Vira isn't the last DLC character, there's at least on more coming after her based on the end of the Seox trailer (on the official granblue fantasy channel)
its 100% sandalphon lol
12th dec edit: damn they actually added another belial xd
@@torototoro1252 the minute I hear Ain Soph It’s remix the DLC cycle of this game is over forever
now it will get a chance
Gbvs was the first fighting game I ever played and what got me into fighters to begin with, it feels bad i got into it so late but still enjoyed the heck out of it for the short time I played. I still believe that 1 good update can revive the game (even for just a short time) so lets hope vira is that spark to rekindle the gbvs fire
the only thing they need to update is the netcode so that people can actually play playable matches online. can't even get a good match with people I live in the same city with
Well now they revive it with a sequel
I remember being so hyped for this game! I do hope its gameplay finds it's way into future games, since having the risk-reward strategies between motion inputs and single direction inputs for specials was such a great idea.
Project L is going the full "no motion inputs at all" route. I wonder how complex the movesets are going to be.
I love GBVS. Played it for a long time it's one of my favorite fighting games.
There was a confluence of factors that tanked it.
First up, the release schedule: Launching first in Japan, then a month later in the US, then another month later in the EU (the first DLC characters were out before the game even released in EU) was not a good decision, especially for a fighting game where everyone should start on even grounds.
Then, of course Covid and the games' netcode - I personally never had much of a problem with online matches but it was obviously a big problem for a lot of other people.
Finally, the pricing is a factor that should not be underestimated. It is a full price title with a small roster and it rarely goes on sale and has 2 expensive season passes which also rarely go on sale plus additional paid stage dlc and battle passes on top of that. Cygames is just asking too much for what they are offering.
I'm happy the community is still soldiering on, though. Game is great and it's nice to see it doing well at CEO.
I definitely get the sale part: I REALLY want to give it a shot, I do, but I'm more of a casual player and while I would love to play, I can't see myself spending 60 bucks on a game that I might not play much + more on dlc that I might never use.
If they had a good sale for both base game and total dlc, I would totally try it, but I'm jut too scared to get into a game as someone who just plays them casually.
There was a small window where the game was half off in GAME (UK retailer) so I snagged it then. Had fun with it but I didn't find myself returning to it a lot, maybe I should go back to it?
This game was the first game that made me WANT to give fighting games a go,i'm bad with imputs like,V E R Y B A D and i couldn't believe how fun it was being able to play a fighting game like this one,i said to my self back then "goddang,i'm actually being able to play a fighting game,AND I'M HAVING FUN" while playing with my friends that know more than me but are still the casual of the casuals.
For a game to achieve that,allow a player bad at the genre to properly play and have fun,i think its amazing specially in a genre that is soo hard to get into such as the fighting genre,with or without multiplayer its a game i'll always come back to when i want to have fun solo or with my friends in a game of this genre,its just that good of a game and i'm happy it exists.
I'm kinda curious about why are you having trouble with a quarter circle or a half circle motion input.
I'm sure you're doing plenty of hard stuff or motions every day in your life but why it doesn't click when it's about fighting games motions.
Is it the timing when you press a quarter circle and a button at the same time maybe ?
Power Rangers Battle for the Grid did that for me. One Button specials👌
@@maxmin2434 As someone who has a very bad finger and hand dexterity, it's very challenging to have a consistent and clean motion input.
@@randodox8375 Oh k i see thanks for the answer.
Fighting games are easy to get into as long as the game has a good tutorial - such as almost every arcsystem fighting game - and you're willing to accept you will most likely be bad when you start. A game should never cater to new players as it takes away the fun from the existing player base (like what Strive did by killing what make Guilty Gear fun). You need to have a game that you can pick up and learn whilst also having a high skill ceiling - Guilty Gear Xrd, Under Night in Birth and Blazblue Central Fiction all fit this very well yet people don't play these games due to lack of promotion and no rollback netcode,
I remember hearing about this game when it was first revealed because of how nice the game looked and because it was an Arc Systems game, but I almost heard nothing after the release. It's unfortunate why it lost a lot of its playerbase, it seemed like it could've been a cool game with a hopefully good competitive scene. Hopefully they do a big sale for the game at one point and implement rollback netcode
Side note. Arcsys fighting games look nice but at this point they all look the same. Like... I saw one of the dfo characters and it took me a moment to realize it wasn't a new GG character because of how GG characters are designed. The style imo works for DragonBall because it's basically the same thing we've seen since raging blast. But granblue? Even GG? There's a lot of good artstyles used. 3d rendering and animation is nice but at this point there isn't much stylization it's the FGC equivalent of the super realistic Ubisoft-EA-Activision-etc. game. It's only one publisher, but it's all blending together and only the designs of the characters keep them different not the artstyle of the game itself. Like imagine if GG strive went more like how the art in accent core went. Or granblue with some of the older more stylized art that isn't so close to the vast majority of the anime ascetic today as the newer art is. Heck even looking more like that would be nice. Even DFO probably could benefit though I don't play or know it so it's what it is.
Though of course they won't since this is their pump out fgs for IP engine. Similar to how a lot of JRPGs today look the same it's just stale but if it's fast and works just use character design and some drawn art here and there in the game to put the style the in game graphics lack in. But I dunno just an issue I see in the games industry in general. Maybe I'm just more keen seeing the halo war over art style.
Didn't mean to go this long but what is your take?
@@tbc1880 Hm, I've never really thought about it but I can definitely see where you're coming from. I'm personally ok with it at least right now because I still find the artstyle very fun but I can understand not liking how similar it has been for the past few games
I think they've had like 2 sales since the game launched lmao. I bought the game and all the DLC on one sale and have been keeping an eye out for my friends when it happens again
@@tbc1880 Did you actually looked at Granblue's artwork, upclose at 4K? They look nothing like standard anime artstyle
@@KenBladehart the newer art lacks... the stylistic flavor of the older art. But the newer art has better mass appeal and set dressing. Ideally it would have kept the bones of the older art and added the spice of newer art. But to me it's very similar to most anime art I see. Though when I say that I'm not meaning literally from an animation.
I picked up GBVS after wanting to branch off from my main game Pokken. It's sad that it released at such an unfortunate time, which did make me stop playing after a few months with the lack of offlines. However, I'm very excited to start playing again with offlines coming back! Funnily, this video came out during CEO and that got over 200 entrants! I think the future has a chance of being bright, it does depend on what else they announce with Vira, if anything.
Oh, I never noticed that "Pokemon Tekken" is called "Pokken" outside of Germany. But I understand why!
Because the word "Pokken" is the German name of the Smallpox infectious diseases. :D
It's funny, I found myself coming back to GBFVS after not finding it all that great at launch, and after Type: Lumina? Loved this game suddenly. It's unfortunate I can't find an online match pretty much ever, but I'm still having a ball - even with the base roster. I hope rollback gets added like with CF and Crosstag so that maybe this game gets a second wind.
If the publisher had guts I would make it 60% off for 2 weeks and make a dev vlog/event out of it. Or free2play with 3 characters. But nvm it doesnt have roleback.
*roll
That's pretty much IT these days IF it doesn't have rollback netcode it's a GG
@@ExeErdna so it's a good game if it doesn't have rollback?
@@maegnificant Yeah it's a fun game yet consistant netplay > everything atm for fighting games as of now. People need to play with other people.
@@maegnificant No
GG in the sense that it's already lost at this point.
Nowadays, a fighting game NEEDS (I put an emphasis on the *NEEDS* part here) a good online experience. And not just in one small part of the world, being able to be playable all around the world is a necessity.
I f*cking love Granblue Fantasy Versus. Solid gameplay, gorgeous graphics, music, presentation, great content all typical of an ASW titles, but... that sketchy and limiting netcode is a problem, especially in a time period where we relied on internet gaming so much due to the pandemic regulations which are getting better now, but at the height of it, it made things for this wonderful game challenging. It would be in their best interests to REALLY consider rollback netcode to revitalize this title. It doesn't deserve to retired anytime soon.
Cygames saw your video and gave the base game a permanent price cut to 20 dollars and a complete edition with all DLC characters for 50 bucks
I competed in Granblue at CEO this past weekend, there is a lot of love for this game.
What a nice timing. I was recently reminiscing over granblue fantasy vs and how beautiful it looks.
I think it might be a good time to hop into it again as the Vira DLC will be coming this month as well.
and years later its getting a new opportunity with granblue fantasy vs rising, i like the gbf ip, i hope the new game turns into a big one in the fighting scene
Nov 30th We RISE!! 🔥
Yeah Covid made sure the game didn't get a good start, But it was Cygames who made sure it never thrived.
Granblue's Fantasy Versus has gone on-sale less than 5 times in its entire life span. Meaning if a newcomer wanted to catchup and get all the DLC characters, They would have to spend around $125 dollars.
The problem above could be alleviated with a special edition or complete edition like it was for BBTAG but i don't see Cygames letting that happen.
Also the times it went on Sale it got like a 25% discount. Wich is low for a game that has been on the market for more than a year now.
And $125 is only for US potential buyers, other countries could have it worse. In Canada gbvs is $90 for the game and $40 for each pass. So after tax it's over $180 to have everything...
I really hope a follow-up video is coming, The comeback this game made is crazy
Working on it!
I really wish this game got some more love. This was my first fighting game ever and I loved playing it for the few months it was alive upon release. I really wish they revive the online part of game.
This game was SOO hyped that 5 people with ps4s came in to my local trading card shop and hooked up 5 Hong Kong versions just to play early and it was great. And then covid came
"Oooooh, I did it!"
Super wholesome Aris, haha.
"One game got the short end of the stick."
Yeah it was persona 4 ultimax
I personally think it's more of a classic Atlus move rather than ASW's fault lmao
09:40 They also (finally) started putting the game on sale, just a shame that it took so long despite the clear need for it. I had the game wishlisted on Steam since its release in 2020, but it was never worth picking up for me until it got the -55% discount in autumn 2021.
What especially surprised me was that the game's singleplayer is actually decent, which is almost unheard of among fighting games.
I LOVE Granblue character designs, they are amazing. I hope Arcsys give us rollback netcode now that Blazeblue rollback got announced, so there is still hope.
The scene around my continent is so small that Rollback is mandatory for anything but kof lmao
I'm so glad you made a video about this, I want to bring more awareness about Granblue Fantasy Versus
"The Fighting Game That Never Got A Chance"
Saw the bloody thing release at over £50 and I was just straight up like: "Nope. Goodbye, discord fighter!"
When I seen that thumbnail immediately thought lowain easily best character especially there English voice actor's 🤣 had way to much fun voicing them
Rewatching this now that it’s free on PlayStation this month. Seem like it’ll be fun to play whenever it does become so
Leffen is the farther than the last person to recommend me which fighters to play let alone talk about netcode
So street 5 had good online on release?
Man I still love playing this game even offline, I hope they'll still add more characters from the web-game
Well guys, we finally got our chance
Rollback & cross-play are coming!
Really? I thought it was coming to the sequel (rising) but not gbfv?
It's the most simple fitting system I've learned. I have a good grasp of most the characters I feel and focuses more on your choices and combos vs learning a 10 step combo
Rollback and Crossplay announced!!!
Dreams do come true.~
Played this at CEO and had a blast. The GranBlue FV community is WILD.
This game is free as part PS Plus' September lineup
Granblue has definitely been one of my favorite fighting games in a good while. Loved playing Lowain to death despite his shortcomings early on, and the pace of fights were great. Having meterless EX moves with the only downside being the move was on CD for some time meant a meter hoarder like me had an excuse to just do cool EX moves in combos and not have to worry about meter management and giving up doing supers just to do a combo. It's a real shame the online era had to put granblue to the test, and I'll definitely be checking back in once Vira drops, but man it really does suck that GBVS had to be the poster child of "no rollback no buy" for a good while.
Lowain is definitely one of my favorite characters, right behind Ladiva.
Dude I would've bought this game 100% but godamn is the price never down. I think a sale would seriously get some new players cause it looks so fucking good
Bought this game 3 days ago and started the anime 4 day ago, i'm actually enjoying it, i really like the movesets of the characters especiallly Belial, Lowain and Ferry
I've always enjoyed Fighting Games, but it was GBVS that taught me how to really play them. If not for GBVS I still wouldn't be able to to do a DP...
Literally one of the most robbed games of all time next to Titanfall 2. Greedy pricing, covid preventing its EVO spot, no rollback. This game has such an incredible art style and soundtrack, every character is fun and I love the simple inputs/cooldowns as a way of accessability. I still play the game to this day.
The only thing being robbed is the players, the pricing of the game and it's dlc are so ludicrous that it deserves 0 sympathy.
@@MatthewCJoy well it is free on ps plus now
I initially wrote it off at first thinking "i suck at fighting games so why should i bother" but after some research and hearing people saying its more accessible i am hopefully optimisitic to try it. I mean bro look at those animations holy fuck 🤩
I had so much hope for this game. The netcod killed this game so bad...
Great video. After months considering getting GBVs I finally took the opportunity to get it taking advantage of the PS Plus and I gotta say it's a great game that unfortunately was released in a bad moment. The fact that I'm also a fan of the anime also adds tp the hype. Hope it gets a second chance somehow. It's very difficult to find people playing online unfortunately
Game might get a boost now that it's free on PS Plus across September!! 🙂🤞🏼
Rollback would have been beautiful
Man. Finally made time and Just got this game. Transitioning to fight sticks. I'm really hyped to get this game going finally. And it at Evo this year definitely popped off and I hope it brings the hype back!
this game is underrated
I just wanted to say you made a perfect introduction under less than a minute. Props to you for not simply using generic intro for 30 seconds and then read the script afterwards
WE'RE LIVING AGAIN, ROLLBACK BAYBEE~
Honestly. GBFV might be one of my favourite fighting games ever. Might not be as stylish as GG or popular as SF, but I really love it.
I legit feel bad for this game. I owned it and just never got into it on an actual fighting game level. I played like 12 matches online alone and much later, a few with a friend... but that was it. I played the single player beat em up mode waaaaay more oddly enough. I feel if online was better, I might've been more motivated to really give it a try. also doesn't help in some ways when you have no attachment to the franchise in any way either.
Man, Sajam's covid hair was wild. Great video BTW.
its a fun game. everything in it works great. I loved how i could learn a couple things for each character and go online and fight decently cause stuff was logical, happened at a comprehensible speed and looked cool... Too bad there was no one to play with in my country and im not buying a fichting game without Rollback ever again.
This game is legitimately really fun. I think all it needs to do is go on sale/have a free trial, and the community needs to support the game too.
its boring and simple
@@raphu2272 bruh how besides some combos alot of them are complexed as hell
"Never got a chance" isn't really true when the game's expensive with a small roster, has overpriced DLC, and bad netcode. I'm hoping fighting game devs will learn from this and adjust so that good games are playable online.
It needed to be said 🔥🐐🔥
The fact that the first pass characters released so fast compared to the second makes it appear that those characters were heldback to sell as DLC
Yeah, honestly if it wasn't so expensive it would've been pretty attractive
Pretty much. This isn't a game that never got that much traction mainly due to circumstances and luck getting on it's way at every chance, I'd say the biggest factor that made it lose a lot of ground quickly were the lack of content on release, rarely going on sale while keeping a high cost despite how many months have passed since it's release, the many questionable balance patches and the hopelessly outdated netcode, all of which are the game's fault.
@@FrMZTsarmiral Those were all factors, but the biggest one was still Covid. The game was *not* marketed in the West because they thought that tournaments were going to sell the game.
Granblue Fantasy Versus is back fr!
Local play is amazing in this game, my family stands an actual chance🤣🤣
As someone who's fallen off of fighting games for years now it is nice that GBF is something that I can easily just play and understand. The combos aren't too deep, but the fact that the Cooldown system makes it more interact. Plus GBF is still one of the few games I play regularly so it helped that it was a recognizable IP for me.
im here because its gonna be on ps plus, is it a good fighting game?
Apparently it is!
>is it a good fighting game?
No it's not.
when it first came out my local scene gave a it a bug chance we were all getting into it there was like 20 of us all playing and getting really into it but then I remember that's when covid got really really serious and tourneys were called off for a while
GOOD NEWS EVERY1!
ROLLBACK IS COMING!
I’m glad I saw this, I had no reference for Granblue and had been avoiding it but it looks like a fun game so now I’m thinking I’ll grab it if it’s on sale
GBFV is one of my favorite fighting games, so I really hope it gets rollback and gets some more people interested in hopping back in the game soon.
Went to CEO this weekend and seeing Granblue offline was definitely hype to watch and play in.
Rollback is live
In terms of aestetics and style GranBlue Fantasy Versus is by far the more outstanding of all, all in this game is top niche, music and graphics so beautiful, superb animations, all polish to a the highest extent, for that reason even I have no time to play I buy it and will keep buying any DLS of this game to the very end
Honestly I feel DNF Duel will end up the same way. Pretty animation is not enough to save a game.
Dnf will have rollback, thats enough for being relevant
@@kevinjahir18 So did gg strive. Still struggles with numbers.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 gg strives doing great player wise idk what you mean
@@returnedtomonkey8886 Are you one of those people who think a fighting game is struggling because it doesn't have has many players as COD or something? Strive is doing great, and DNF has nothing to worry about yet.
@@bobjones5939 Strive was one of the most over-hyped fighting games ever and still lost 5/6 of it's player base in half a year despite constant developer support and influencer shilling.
I never got a chance with it because it didn't release on Xbox or Switch. The cooldown mechanic is neat and the 12 character roster had plenty of awesome looking characters, but the game never released on any of my systems of choice.
Great coverage of it and it was interesting for you to explain it's circumstances with a comparison to Street Fighter V. It's also really nice that this video ends on a hopeful and upbeat note.
I dunno, I appreciate that a lot of people like GB and still go to bat for it and it was a lot of folks first fg, but just about everyone I actually know of multiple skill levels found it interesting for a minute but then incredibly boring really fast. I think they pushed the simplicity a little too far imo
Agreed.
The fact there's no low or air combos frustrates me with a big F. Why can't you chain buttons normally like in other 2D fighting games?
The Soundtrack for granblue fantasy versus fucking SLAPS
that is all
Cygames has BILLIONS of Dollars generated from the mobile game.
They need to add rollback. Maybe re-release the game with all dlc + roll back on next gen.
Yea maybe "definitive" edition like SFV arcade edition for example is good option for GBFVS. Let that version have rollback and all previous characters included (plus adding new ones ofc). Then put older ver on sale too.
Same exact tactic SFV did. To some extent it works.
For any "definitive" edition to happen they need to finish both the DLC roster and Story mode chapters, so we still have a while to wait... ^^"
@@renookami4651 dlc only 1 more character i heard, will be announced on around dec on GBF fest or something. After that unclear.
Arc sys has said they would like to add rollback, but would need cygames to sign off on it which is looking unlikely atm but we’ll see. I think maybe if they see bbcf and bbtag rollback additions being successful it might happen.
Cygames likely doesnt care at all about rollback.
Granblue is IMO better than all of the other ArcSys games.
Unlikely but we should get Versus 2 with rollback & even more DLC. The devs said they are not sure if it’ll happen. (So basically no).
I wish it was alive and well, the art style is freaking pretty.
Why do some many company don’t develop roll back networks
Is it because of cost or time?
The entire game has to be created around rollback and many Japanese devs are unfamiliar with rollback.
It has to be decided on early on in development or else it will be a nightmare to implement afterwards. GBFVS was made in a time where offline play was prioritized over *online so that’s probably why we won’t see it get rollback anytime soon.
I have to say. I'm asbolutely terrible at fighting games, don't know any of those fancy terms used, etc. But I do love GBFVS. The visuals and artstyle are gorgeous, music is nothing short of fantastic, very good setting and thematic, and incredibly fun and intuitive gameplay for noobs like me. I have been playing it alone lately, and it breaks my heart how this faded into obscurity for the most part. Something has to be done about this title. It can't just die like that. It has to be brought back to life. Please add the rollback and put the game on sales more often. It's far too expensive atm.
At Least They Have Another Shot At Evo.
I didn't play Granblue only because I JUST got into fighting games with Season 3 of DBFZ. So I was busy learning anything about fighting games for the first time to hop onto a new one. But now that it's been a couple years and I'm deeper into the fgc I do somewhat regret missing out on GB. It looks amazing and probably is. I would for sure pmay a sequel in the future.
When are you guys gonna talk about Persona 4 Arena Ultimax?
Man everytime I see a new video from this channel I just want to jump back Into fighting games again! I've had DBFZ on my switch for almost a year and I've barely touched it!
Well now it will with PS PLUS
Well I mean BBCF and BBTAG just got Rollback Netcode announced for next year, and hype for those older titles is returning and bringing hope for potential future interest and updates, one can only hope GranBlue can get that much needed second wind. Great vid, and good info.
- ArcSys fighter
"Oh boy, this is gonna be great!"
- Based on a mobile game with no overseas presence
- Down-to-earth fundamentals based
- No rollback
- Expensive
"O-oh..."
I do believe once Riot games releases their fighting game, online gameplay is going to be one of the biggest emphasis that they're going to improve throughout its game's lifecycle. And a big company like Riot games, who mainly focuses their games using the network, I won't be surprised
I think the game is pretty much done, it came out at around a rough time, launched with few characters, there's not much room for creativity in the game in terms of combos. I don't think rollback will be enough to save the game
It's so unfortunate since the Granblue versus got everything going for them like EVO spot but the pandemic came right before its big tournament debut.
Hope for the best for Granblue.
I only want another season of the anime. :(
It had a kickass opening song
Binging on granblue content. Very excited for GBFVR! Were back!
Oh boy