Remember the khorne-sanguinius artwork(part of a bigger one), there's also the loyalist part to it from same author too, perturabo there is portraited just as described, a huge dreadnought-statured guy with firepower to match.
One can only feel pity for Angron. He would have probably have been the most human of all the primarchs, even more-so than Vulkan. Yet he was essentially lobotomized and left as a mad-man in the body of a Primach.
@@Fenrisdog999 oppressed hundreds of people because "religion bad". Encouraged the self destructive hatred of psykers. Keeps some pretty important information like the danger of chaos from the primarchs, forget his general military. Fostered distrust within his own empire because he thought he knew what was best for everyone. I could go on but this is getting long.
I have a good idea for Perty. Instead of becoming a daemon prince enslaved by Chaos he made a deal with Vashtor to make him a kind of primarch cyborg in exchange for helping him. Vashtor is the one daemon I could see him being willing to work with. And the Iron Warriors seem to like daemon engines which are Vashtors whole thing.
With Vashtor's recent addition, I wholly agree with this idea. The Demonic Forges in the Warp always sounded like something the Iron Warriors would be interested in anyway. Vashtor is a good choice for a "deal with the devil" plot-line since it has long be established the Chaos Gods are cheats.
@@willhelm94 The idea i have is at some point Perty meets Vashtor no long after the Heresy. Vashtor agrees to help him cheat death after Perty gives him the Fist's gene seed from the iron cage. So they could have been partners long before Arcs Of Omen.
@@jaketheberge1970 That sounds awesome, although I don't know what Vashtorr would do with gene seed as he seems to use machinery and souls for his work. Throwing a crazy insane idea out there, if the primarchs are warp gods in primarch bodies, then what if Vashtorr is the warp god that was in Perry's body? If Perty finally died of fulgrim's ritual, then reformed as Vashtorr, that would explain Vashtorr's absence for 10000 years as well as also explain why Perty and Vashtorr are both so good with technology.
However it went down, Perturabo was going to make certain he could retain as much of his autonomy as he could. I think one day we'll see how he managed to get around being a chaos slave or how chaos was able to fool him into thinking of himself as more free than he is.
@@SIGNOR-G And it may even be that since he could always see The Eye of Terror, the Ruinous Powers managed to pierce his gestation capsule and warp him early on. They've always said that about Sanguinius and his wings, but if it happened to anyone, I think it was Perturabo. Chaos maybe chose their Primarchs as soon as Erda opened the portal.
@@RSBurgener i really hate with a passion the predestination thing. It ruins the choices of the primarchs. But yeah if its true that the Emperor made a deal with chaor or the warp... it may be that Perty was ruined by the day he opened his eyes for the first time.
@@SIGNOR-G he didn't have to do it. If The Emperor hadn't hidden knowledge of The Warp from everyone, Perturabo could've guarded himself against it and NOT turned. But the Imperial Truth made him sound like he was crazy when he told Ferrus Manus about the Star Maelstrom. And Ferrus was like "what a werido". I think that was what doomed him. He bottled it all up and he was ripe for manipulation by the Ruinous Powers. It was the Emperor that took away his agency, not Chaos. That's what I think.
Funny to think that out of the 18 Primarchs, only 2 of them actually wanted to become a Daemon. Chaos blows Lets get 500k guy and gal! Pick up the Major Minis here : www.majorminis.com.au/ Or join the Patreon here : www.patreon.com/majorkill
I like the idea that Morty (and by extension the entire Death Guard) are not just removed from the physical pain of their existence; but also the emotional one. Dulling their ability to feel guilt, Shame or remorse. Ergo why Morty is terrified of displeasing his new master. Because with the Grandfather's blessings Mortarion would feel it all.
Place him as part of the forces of the hell forge, he shows no allegiance to a single warp god and is incredibly apt with technology, it fits like a glove.
@@seprithlicastia463 This is true, but chaos basically gave him the instructions how to and powered him and his troops, while Horus did stuff and acquired power almost by himself. (Moloch is a bit of grey area for now.) Lorgar on the other hand, the one time he used his own initiative (his coup) he failed miserably and bitched out.
@@Historyfrek4ever I think the failing here is to consider being made a Demon Prince a real reward. Yes, it can make you powerful and immortal, but Primarchs are already both of those things. Instead, for a Primarch, it is basically just a means of being forever bound to Chaos, even if Undivided. Lorgar is a Primarch, and had a lot of influence in general, so why not make him a Demon Prince and bind him forever? Even Lorgar had his doubts about everything; he might have eventually rebelled against Chaos. He had already cast aside two religions he felt betrayed him, after-all.
@@seprithlicastia463 I'm about 60% certain that Lorgar didn't become a Daemon Prince, but rather just a demon. It would explain why he's still clapped by the exact same things that could clap him before demonhood, and he got scammed super hard by the chaos gods for their amusement.
Interesting enough, in the books of the Angel Exterminatus there was a short chapter detailing Fulgrim landing on (Chemos?) about how he got his name and one of the workers had a fairy tale book that depicted blue-armored warrior facing a scaly serpentine creature with many limbs, referencing Roboute facing Fulgrim. It was a nice touch actually.
My personal theory is that he went to Magnus for help with his soul wound (considering that Magnus was his only real friend) and Magnus pulls a Lorgar and forces him into ascension against his will. This helps keeps Perty in character and helps explain why he doesn’t spend more time around Magnus.
One idea I've had for a while is: what if a ship full of pre heresy word bearers arrived into the current setting? and by pre heresy, I mean before the emperor got the ultramarines to mess with them pre heresy. Love ya videos mate, keep up the good work.
My theory is that Perturabo ascended in a similar manner to to how Corvus became a warp entity: by using his innate primarch connection to the warp. Also, the more I learn about Lorgar the more I think that he should be the primary antagonist of the setting. Such an underutilized character.
I like the idea that Perterabo is like an inverse Guilliman. Both are using armor to keep them alive until they can figure out a way to fully cure themselves And it's fitting that while gillman is willing to work with others including xenos, Thus actually making progress, Pert has Been mutating into a obliterator
I think he already kind of touched that topic in his "the primarch's unique warp abilities" video or whatever it was called. As for other than Corvus and the demon primarchs we never got too much intel from GW about this topic, so it's kind of rough actually doing a video on that, I reckon.
It's a fictional setting, the potential is whatever the writers want, any intel on their warp abilities that exists was covered in the video about the primarch powers
@@crxcify1x the former part of your comment makes no sense, tf does it being fiction have to do with it? You telling him to make up warp powers for the primarchs? 🤨
@@humanity600 I'm saying their potential warp powers are whatever a black library writer wants them to be at any given time so a video into their POTENTIAL powers would be wildly speculative at best and impossible at worst. That's the whole point of what I'm saying, a video on their potential powers would have to be either a rehashing of his primarch abilities video or just majorkill making up powers that a primarch could have.
I wonder what Lorgar especially would think, yeah he'd be happy people are now worshipping the emperor as a god, but he might still have issues with how they are doing it. Hell it might be even more interesting if he goes basically the mirror route of Guilliman with this. Seeing how the ecclesiarchy is corrupt and causing a lot of problems for the Imperium, trying to fix it and end up somewhat agreeing with G-man that the Imperium needs more than faith, like how Roboute is starting to see that the Imperial cult may have sort of a point. Lorgar and Guilliman, church and state. Honestly those two working together would be the best at making and managing empires out of the bunch.
Perturabo: Gets angry that the Imperium is even more disappointing than before, but gets to reclaiming and Crusading while being super bitter all the time, you don't want to be a Guardsman under his command no matter what. Lorgar: "Ah finally, humanity in religious" Angron: "FUCK OFF, I DON'T CARE THAT THE EMPEROR'S SHITTY EMPIRE IS IN RUINS!" I won't do the rest.
Angron(let’s assume that in this scenario he was put to sleep and the nails eventually broke down due to age): _This…this isn’t right. He’s not a god! He’s not a GOD! Stop praising him as if he’s listening! HE’S NOT LISTENING! HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU!_ Perterabo: _We traded death at the hands of Horus…for this. Dorn, I wish I could see you one last time. The look upon your face would make all of the pain I suffered in your shadow worth it_ Lorgar(loyalist): _Mankind has seen the light, at last. But look around you; see the man at your side, and tell me if he is loyal or a traitor. You cannot, because traitors wear the skin of the faithful to deceive the weak and unobservant. I come to you now, not as a lord or a king, but as a humble preacher. I preach the truth of His divinity, I speak of His deeds and impart them unto you, his chosen children. Sons and Daughters of Terra, lend me your ears! I shall preach to you now, not just of a god, but of a man, the Greatest Man who has ever or will ever live!_ Fulgrim(loyalist): _I have come to you now in your time of greatest need, to show you the way. The way to a brighter future, a new tomorrow! I, Fulgrim, last living son of the Emperor of Mankind, hereby declare that I and I alone shall lead this glorious Imperium. I do not seek to usurp my father, only to use the mighty realm He has crafted to protect YOU! The people! I see your hurt, your fear, and I tell you now to cast it away. There is nothing in this galaxy that Mankind cannot conquer, for what the strength of the Xenos, the Mutant, and the Traitor is as nothing compared to the glory that is the Master of Mankind!_ Mortarion(loyalist): (no grand speeches, no preaching, just a cold and ruthless purge followed by the initiation of a crusade akin to Roboute’s) Alpharius/Omegon: (same as Mortarion, only a lot subtler) Konrad: _The strong have preyed for too long upon the meek, and I have heard your prayers. Though you spoke not to me, still I heard, and I have arrived to deliver the cold wrath of the Emperor. Traitors, listen well, for I know that you can hear me! I am Konrad Curze! Last loyal son of the Emperor! AND I HAVE COME FOR YOU!_ Magnus(and this one’s the kicker): _Father, I have returned_ (the Crimson King reaches out and rests a bronzed hand upon his fathers withered chest. The Emperor has sat immobile upon the Golden Throne for centuries, and yet at the Primarchs touch, a single withered finger on the Emperor’s withered hand twitches) _I see now why you gave me such gifts. It was my duty to hold this vigil, not yours. Would that I could turn back the chronometer and fulfill my purpose; perhaps you would be standing here before me, rather than the reverse. I cannot undo what has been done, but I can try to save what remains. I will finish your great work, and I will free you from this…thing. You will rise again, but not today. Until we meet again, father. Be well, and know that I love you still_
@@TheCorrodedMan Ok I like all of yours, but imagine with Magnas, this happens, The primarch after touching the Emperor and saying his piece, is then contacted by the emperor, asking if he is really sorry, Magnus says yes, the emperor asks if hes willing to suffer for the emperor, Magnus hesitates before replying yes. The emperor then says "then lend me your strength", united the emperor begins to close the webway gate, this strain begins to destroy Magnus, as this is only his bad side he is heavily drawn to flee, but deep within him some good remains, what drove him to defect form chaos and he pushes on. This is what the emperor was waiting for, this was a test and Magnus passed it, for in that moment Magnus good shard emerges having been combined with all the previously missing pieces and is reunited with Magnus. In a flash Magnus is whole, restored, the webway is closed which also means the Emperor better understands it (lets say while yes he forced it closed, how it closed taught him how he could of done it easier) but most of all, the Emperor arises, his body quickly reforming, his soul pieces return to him and he stands, without any words spoken or transmitted, he and Mangus swap places. Magnus knows this is his duty and he embraces it, the Atronomica does not even flicker, in fact it glows brighter as Mangus is able to channel all his power into it. The Emperor stretches and turns to his son, then kneels, he apologized, he explains that after so long on the throne with the ability to hear cry in his name and see many lives he relised that he had lacked one thing when making his empire, its what drove his fellow primordial away, he lacked love and empathy, if he had some he could of saved his sons he would of been able to see Magnus needed not to be punished but shown what dangers their were. With that the Emperor turned and walked away, while he knew he had an empire to save, that was not his first task. no, To him, He had 19 sons to save.
Technically, Mortarion did do the proper rituals for a Nurglitch transformation, if he'd had tasks to do in order to make himself a daemon prince, purposefully, it likely wouldn't help him achieve his goal, and by having Nurgle be his goal, he wouldn't be fit for Nurgle's ultimate daemon princehood, as you mist cone to Nurgle with reluctance and desperation, otherwise you aren't his, you're downright opposite to him, a being of foolhardy aspiration, fit more for Tzeentch than logical, resigned Nurgle.
This is spot on. Nurgle is despair and futility, along with embracing a kind of nihilism. Mortarion's whole life was a desperate attempt to take control for himself and his sons, and one of those sons sold destroyed him with his love. No wonder he just gave up. He's nurgle incarnate.
@headlibrarian1996 A different way to gain Nurgle's favor is to revel in eternity and viirality, and the highest way to display that is resilience against all affliction and all tribulation, so that you might spread your own will until it blots out the stars themselves. Typhus is such a soul that he refuses to bend the knee to the hesitant Mortarion, Typhus would prefer to render the weak and the frail who refuse Nurgle's strength into mindless zombies, unburdened by the shackles of thought and personal consideration, Typhus is so immersed in Nurglitch power that he fails to see the difference between himself and the unthinking and irrational fecundity he embodies, Typhus is just as much a zombie as his own thralls, driven to madness and delusion under the yoke of a God of sickness who works through agents of corruption that only work as well as they do because they don't consider themselves or their own wellbeing. Plagues run their course, poxes kill off the weak, the bodies and minds of Nurgle's chosen rot in rqual measure, but a twisted strength bubbles up in them too, swelling them until it ruptures forth, the strength they wished for as they embraced Nurgle, the strength to deny death. Typhus is strong because he is in denial over the depths of his depravity and the futility in the glories he has gained, he is but a vector for a plague that destroys all, a swarm of walking corpses and daemon flies and deluded thoughts, a rancid pus that pleases Nurgle. Mortarion still has a mind to see the reality of Nurgle's way, and yet he is resigned to the same fate as the rest of the Death Guard. Denial of an indomitable fate and the despair to submit to it, with the knowledge to understand it, these are Nurglitch traits, even if they run counter in some ways, both these things gain you dark strength in the court of the maggot. But they must be true, for if you hold onto an introspective hope, the ability to reflect on your current state, and the questioning spirit to ponder change and salvation? These thoughts are Tzeentch. Typhus doesn't hope for a better state of things, he truly revels in his delusion that he is strong and that he will last on just as his plagues do, not realizing that he is but a vector for Nurgle's wishes, and that all that Nurgle wishes for is the downfall and decay of all things, including himself. Nurgle adores Typhus, because Typhus is emblematic of mortal delusion and coping mechanisms, a mental immune system desperately trying to keep what's left of a mind above the tide of filth and sorrow that Nurgle truly is. And just as Nurgle loves Typhus for his foolishness, he loves Mortarion for his indomitable rationality, for such a hard to conquer soul is truly of great strength, and the greatest of things produce the greatest of corpses, their rot that much sweeter.
@@headlibrarian1996 Misery loves company, he isn't an eager follower. Think of a particularly convincing salesman who hates his boss and his life. He knows he is signing you up to suffer until you embrace Nurgle, he also knows that he cant stop. If he ever stops, his misery will increase dramatically. So he allies himself with the thing he most hates, and works in it's service. Nurgle knows this, *that* is why he really is property of the grandfather. Except this sales pitch is a case of giga-space-aids. Whenever Typhon speaks about how great Nurgle's gifts are he is being sarcastic af. At least thats my head-cannon, cause for a while I sold cars for a greedy parasite piece of shit, and I was good at it, but I hated watching him screw people over and pay me pennies on the dollar. I couldnt quit cause I was paycheck to paycheck, walked to work, and nobody else was hiring, but to talk to me you'd think I was living the high life and loved my job.
It's kind of weird that of all the Daemon Princes you'd think Slaanesh would suck off their Princes the most but no it's Khorne because have you seen how much they regen which is the only reason they don't die. Also Major Mini for Commissar Yarrick please.
Chaos fall aside, only the Lion, Gulliman, and Horus were real contenders for the title. Maybe Dorn, but that would just be asking for trouble. That said, I still agree this would be an interesting hypothetical. The thought of the Night Haunter as Warmaster is just too hilariously ill-fitting to not want to imagine.
And finally, one night, Lorgar grows a pair and decides to check the closet, only to find Konrad Curze hiding in there. "Idiot, Corvus is under your bed! The closet is mine and Alparius is under the stairs. And we buried Dorn in the backyard."
Perturabo, Angron, Mortarion, and Magnus were all sad stories of ascension. Perturabo is diseased, Angron was on death's door, Mortarion had to pick between two hells, and Magnus had no control over it. I really would like to see a Chaos Rebellion where all four of them are like "Fuck This!" and rebel against Chaos leading to a Chaos civil war and a permanent crippling of the faction and those four potentially being redeemed by the Emperor, but choosing to remain in the Warp as the Imperium is no longer home to them.
They can't. As demon princes they are now de facto avatar of the chaos gods. They have some resemblance of free toughts but most of their actions and will are inlfuenced by the gods will. Even belakor think of himself as an indipendent demi god of its own when in fact he is a servant of the chaos gods.
Well, the almighty god-emperor already stated that he could save Morty if given enought time. I reckon all of them could find redemption if our shining golden god were ever to return. So prepare to never see that story unravel! :-)
@@mattiaslime8926 Influenced by but not directly controlled. Mortation's attack on Ultrimar was against Nurgle's wishes. Also Scarbrand's entire backstory.
Idea: What if each Primarch swapped worlds? Ex. Guilliman landing on Inuit or Mortarion landing on Prospero? Though they still have their respective primarch abilities, so no magic Angron or Siegemaster Sanguinius
I'd imagine that most wouldn't do any better than Angron in his position. Perhaps Corvus or Magnus would escape, and Horus' charisma or Fulgrim's prettiness might keep them from the worst of slavery. Perhaps someone like Perturabo would be willing to kill their fellows and thus avoid the butcher's nails. Guilliman might actually prove himself more valuable as an administrative slave than as a gladiator. Then again that's just my opinion.
When it comes to Perturabo I think his Dreadnaught-like armor may have a new form of Daemon engine thus creating confusion over he is or isn't a Daemon Prince.
I always like to imagine lorgar siting in his room looking at the window and seeing a demonic crow looking straight at him kinda like a demonic version pf the poem of Edgar Allan Poe the crow
I would love to see that after Vashtor full ascention to Godhood sent part of his own power back in time to make Perturabo ascend to Daemonhood, making Perturabo the Deamon-Primarch of Vashtor even before Vastor reach Godhood, because since time has no meaning in the warp it is totally possible
@@christiandauz3742 first Archaon is NIT a chaos god, he's their slave; second: I love Malice but has no posible link to Perturabo, and third If Vashtorr becomes a full fledge Chaos God he sent a portiin of his power back in time in order to fuel Perturabo's ascention, in the Warp time and space doesn't exists so it is technically posible
Majorkill I gotta say you're videos have only been getting better and better. With better and better quality. I've been around since Timmy getting the beatings he deserved. So happy to see my favorite 40k youtuber and top 5 fav youtubers enter (soon) the 500k plus subs club.
From what I remember of their lore, the Word Bearers are pretty neat. Schemey, zealous, bastards, right? It'd be cool to see more of them. I always like a villain that _chose_ to be a villain (it's why I love the Drukhari), someone you can't really sympathize with, you know? Lorgar really fits that mold. EDIT: oh, pre-gratz, MK! You're just under 1k away from that half-million as I type this.
It's a personal headcannon of mine that Perturabo has assended to the level of a deamon Prince, but he is not chaos undivided. Instead he's likely aligned himself with an unaligned chaos entity who is trying to gain power in the warp, most likely Vashtoor.
Where in my opinion Perturabo would make the most sense is as champion or even leader of the forces of the hell forge, as he shows no allegiance to a single chaos god and also is one hell of a crafty dude! Also it'd give that position more character than that new guy they just introduced that GW just pulled out of theirs. What does everyone think?
How I believe Perty became a daemon prince (if he did): Perturabo: So if I become a daemon prince I can wreck Dorn's shit more? Chaos gods: Yes Perturabo: Sign me in
His fight against Angron showed he doesnt value strength that isn't ones own. He mocked Angron for being a slave to Chaos and pointed out that he was about to get his ass whooped because Khorne was the one with the muscle, Angron was just a vessel, and as the slaughter on the battlefield came to a hault, Angron lost most of his power. Not saying it COULDNT happen, but Perturabo would have to be in a situation so bad he couldn't even pretend there was a way out.
I'd like to see Lorgar and the Word Bears take center stage, the disruption he could cause to the imperium in regards to it's faith in the emperor couldn't be understated, he could potentially bring it to it's knees.
Listening to your wording on Russ vs Magnus, it got me thinking about Russ’s abilities. Every primarch inherited a trait from The Emperor, what if Russ inherited the ability to destroy (in reality, and on a spiritual level) and loyalty.
My personal theory is that he went to Magnus for help with his soul wound (considering that Magnus was his only real friend) and Magnus pulls a Lorgar and forces him into ascension against his will. This helps keeps Perty in character and helps explain why he doesn’t spend more time around Magnus.
I don't think so. Magnus even as a daemon primarch isn't have the cruelty others have even during the invasion of Fenris. I doubt he would do what Lorgar did.
What if Perturabo is slowly replacing himself with machinery, until eventually when his entire soul is gone all that is left is an enormous, primarch-level man of gold AI. That would be fucking awesome.
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Perturabo great plot I think as perturabo never had a sense of acomplishment and any hard time with any issue He wasnt angry at fulgrim He was happy Because He got something to work on that He didnt knew howto do it So he full isolated himself to learn about it And could do it in 10 millenias So he extends his life using Dreadnought/obliterator tech Or Got a deal with vashtor
Could you please make a video about how well each of the legions did during the great crusade? Basically ranking them based on how much they had conquered and in general what each legion did. (or something like that.) I think it would be awesome, thankyou very much majordaddy.
Or just talk about it in general. There are a lot of way to grade this, too. Most worlds? Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Word Bearers. Most compliant? Night Lords, Imperial Fists. Most stable? Luna Wolves. Lots to talk about.
@@seprithlicastia463 yes I know dark angels and ultramarines did well. But you’re flat out wrong on the word bearers, sorry I’m not being mean I’m just saying they were literally criticized for conquering barely anything because they were too busy making choir boy hubs and giant churches praising the guy who outright told people not to call him god. I meant not necessarily just ranking but talking in general.
My head canon for perty is that he is working to make machines that keep him alive, while also making demon engines for chaos. Not really a demon primarch but more like a faction of chaos
I like to think that the chaos gods are like the show shark tank the rituals and sacrifices are a pitch to get there support and when you displease them and they want out they cut there funding and turn you into a chaos spawn.
For Perty i would say, why not both? What is a Demon Dreadknought other than a Soulgrinder. I could totally see him chilling in the Forge of Souls with Vashtorr, turning himself into a living Fortress so Dorn can siege his Nutz
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In the case of Magnus I think that while he was still gathering the shards of his soul (and growing more corrupted in the meantime) it wasn't until he discovered his soul shard's energy had been used by another thereby making it inaccessible (at least in the time he had) plus the need for a quick exit from the palace that he fully accepted Tzeentch's energy into that vacant sot in his soul which truly turned him into a daemon/daemon prince thereby causing the Emperor's Aegis to recognize him as a daemon and yet him into the warp. Until that point he was basically just a daemon/daemon prince in name only. That's my head canon at least otherwise he wouldn't have made it past the Aegis and into the Throne room in the first place. Though one could also argue that it was Big E that let him in anyway to present his offer of a retribution and a new legion and when he felt Magnus truly accept his new Master the Emperor then just let the Aegis do its thing.
Even though I agree that it would go against his character, I REALLY want Vashtorr to win and ascend to godhood (fat chance that'lll happen but I can dream can't I?) Anyway, if Vashtorr wins, I think it would be awesome if Perturabo became his first Demon Prince. He's already been working together with Abbadon and he definitely won't pledge himself to him. If Perturabo is already a Prince, then he probably LOATHES having to answer to FOUR Chaos Gods and Vashtorr is definitely more his type, he's infinitely more direct and clear about what he wants, and not as fickle and weird, plus the Demon Machine Aesthetic would be awesome. If he's not ascended, then he's simply running out of time before he perishes and for the reasons listed above, Vashtorr is as good a Chaos god as any. I vote Perturabo as Demon Prince of Vashtorr
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i think the despair, which some argue is the emotion Nurgle feeds off of, that Mortarion felt at the sight of his dying sons is what fuelled his ascension.
Am i the only one who thinks perty may or may not be the "daemon prince" for vashtorr who either turned him into one or augmented him to be on pair with the DP's. The whole augmentation to be on pair would also fit perty but hey that's just a theory.... A film/game theory, thanks for riding. Bonus: Angron: the missons,the nightmares.....they are finally.....over. *And then along came lorgar, he hurled-*
What would have happened if Perturabo was made Praetorian of Terra instead of Rogal Dorn? Given how hard he carried the traitors during the Siege and whatnot.
Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
I think Majorkills Imperium bias just clouds his judgment on the Chaos Primarchs. Their betrayals all make perfect sense if the theory, that the Emperor always planned for the Heresy to happen, is true. Maybe he even had a secret deal with the Chaos Gods for the knowledge of how to create the Primarchs. The Emperor was always an asshole or indifferent towards Lorgar, Perturabo, Angron, Kurze & Khan. On the opposite side he was very respectful and sometimes kind towards Horus, Dorn, Guiliman, Sanguinius, Magnus & Fulgrim. It would makes perfect sense that the Emperor was respectful towards the Primarchs he wanted to stay loyal and disrespectful towards the Primarchs he would have to give over to Chaos. His plan just did not work out perfectly because he lost some of the Primarchs he wanted to stay loyal, like Horus and Magnus. This theory makes the Emperor seem alot less incompetent. It makes sense why Chaos would want to make a deal for half of the Primarchs because they want constant war (The Great Game) and it makes sense why Chaos would fuck over the Emperors plan by taking Horus from him (His favorite son).
I think the idea of Perturabo being a Primarch Dreadnought/Obliterator is fitting and by far the coolest outcome for him
It is. It is.
Perturabo rejecting the ascesion to demonhood and augmenting himself to be on par with demon princes would be on character with him.
Remember the khorne-sanguinius artwork(part of a bigger one), there's also the loyalist part to it from same author too, perturabo there is portraited just as described, a huge dreadnought-statured guy with firepower to match.
Yes i also think that perty is the original obliderator and the armor he has is to not infected his entire legion form becoming obliterators
I'm only buying Perturabo as a Daemon Primarch if he ascends to be the Daemon Primarch of Vashtorr
I like to think Perturabo beat an ancient demon engine in to submission to become his life support armour , so didn't need to ascend.
Or pulled a Big E and tricked them, stealing their power to power his suit.
This idea is amazing! I am now considering this to be my canon
And whinged about it.
I keep seeing this repeated, but a video on how pre heresy primarchs would act if they were in Guilliman's position would be cool
Fr bro
Hope he’ll do it soon
Hope is the only thing I have now
Bro ive been seeing this comment for 6 months at least give up its just a bad idea
@@nipplesalads4205 It is actually a great idea, people just wrongly assume Majorkill cares about viewers. He only listens to wallets and stats.
One can only feel pity for Angron. He would have probably have been the most human of all the primarchs, even more-so than Vulkan. Yet he was essentially lobotomized and left as a mad-man in the body of a Primach.
Big E's handling of Angron I think is his biggest failing as a father. And that is saying a lot.
@@BikerTrashWolf forget as a father. As a leader in general it was a moronic choice to make.
@@BikerTrashWolf the only thing the emperor did wrong is by not killing angron. not sure how anything else is his fault.
Big E could have done literally anything else when he met angron at his slave planet and it would have been better than what he did.
@@Fenrisdog999 oppressed hundreds of people because "religion bad". Encouraged the self destructive hatred of psykers. Keeps some pretty important information like the danger of chaos from the primarchs, forget his general military. Fostered distrust within his own empire because he thought he knew what was best for everyone.
I could go on but this is getting long.
I have a good idea for Perty. Instead of becoming a daemon prince enslaved by Chaos he made a deal with Vashtor to make him a kind of primarch cyborg in exchange for helping him. Vashtor is the one daemon I could see him being willing to work with. And the Iron Warriors seem to like daemon engines which are Vashtors whole thing.
With Vashtor's recent addition, I wholly agree with this idea. The Demonic Forges in the Warp always sounded like something the Iron Warriors would be interested in anyway. Vashtor is a good choice for a "deal with the devil" plot-line since it has long be established the Chaos Gods are cheats.
Cool ideas, also Perturabo and Abaddon are on goodish terms so Abaddon could introduce him
@@willhelm94 The idea i have is at some point Perty meets Vashtor no long after the Heresy. Vashtor agrees to help him cheat death after Perty gives him the Fist's gene seed from the iron cage. So they could have been partners long before Arcs Of Omen.
Yo cool idea
@@jaketheberge1970 That sounds awesome, although I don't know what Vashtorr would do with gene seed as he seems to use machinery and souls for his work.
Throwing a crazy insane idea out there, if the primarchs are warp gods in primarch bodies, then what if Vashtorr is the warp god that was in Perry's body? If Perty finally died of fulgrim's ritual, then reformed as Vashtorr, that would explain Vashtorr's absence for 10000 years as well as also explain why Perty and Vashtorr are both so good with technology.
Lorgar: "Atlast! I have achieved full demon hood! My powers hav-"
Corvus: "I got that too."
Lorgar: "Fuck this stupid game!"
However it went down, Perturabo was going to make certain he could retain as much of his autonomy as he could. I think one day we'll see how he managed to get around being a chaos slave or how chaos was able to fool him into thinking of himself as more free than he is.
Read Halfbreed. He's a Daemon Prince, so are many of his Sons
You cannot beat the devil at his own game. Perturabo's fate was sealed the moment he joined Horus.
@@SIGNOR-G And it may even be that since he could always see The Eye of Terror, the Ruinous Powers managed to pierce his gestation capsule and warp him early on. They've always said that about Sanguinius and his wings, but if it happened to anyone, I think it was Perturabo. Chaos maybe chose their Primarchs as soon as Erda opened the portal.
@@RSBurgener i really hate with a passion the predestination thing. It ruins the choices of the primarchs. But yeah if its true that the Emperor made a deal with chaor or the warp... it may be that Perty was ruined by the day he opened his eyes for the first time.
@@SIGNOR-G he didn't have to do it. If The Emperor hadn't hidden knowledge of The Warp from everyone, Perturabo could've guarded himself against it and NOT turned. But the Imperial Truth made him sound like he was crazy when he told Ferrus Manus about the Star Maelstrom. And Ferrus was like "what a werido". I think that was what doomed him. He bottled it all up and he was ripe for manipulation by the Ruinous Powers.
It was the Emperor that took away his agency, not Chaos. That's what I think.
Funny to think that out of the 18 Primarchs, only 2 of them actually wanted to become a Daemon. Chaos blows
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Is kind of weird how chaos basically has to trap its own followers in order to gain them
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I like the idea that Morty (and by extension the entire Death Guard) are not just removed from the physical pain of their existence; but also the emotional one. Dulling their ability to feel guilt, Shame or remorse. Ergo why Morty is terrified of displeasing his new master.
Because with the Grandfather's blessings Mortarion would feel it all.
He only really chose to give in to Nurble to save his boys. He ain’t really willing
One: Hope they retcon Perturabo cyborg monster, two: I am pretty sure Lorgar got deamonhood as a participation prize.
Place him as part of the forces of the hell forge, he shows no allegiance to a single warp god and is incredibly apt with technology, it fits like a glove.
Lorgar did a lot, too be fair. He furthered the cause of Chaos as a whole. A perfect prerequisite to become a Chaos Undivided Demon Prince.
@@seprithlicastia463 This is true, but chaos basically gave him the instructions how to and powered him and his troops, while Horus did stuff and acquired power almost by himself. (Moloch is a bit of grey area for now.) Lorgar on the other hand, the one time he used his own initiative (his coup) he failed miserably and bitched out.
@@Historyfrek4ever I think the failing here is to consider being made a Demon Prince a real reward. Yes, it can make you powerful and immortal, but Primarchs are already both of those things. Instead, for a Primarch, it is basically just a means of being forever bound to Chaos, even if Undivided. Lorgar is a Primarch, and had a lot of influence in general, so why not make him a Demon Prince and bind him forever? Even Lorgar had his doubts about everything; he might have eventually rebelled against Chaos. He had already cast aside two religions he felt betrayed him, after-all.
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I'm about 60% certain that Lorgar didn't become a Daemon Prince, but rather just a demon. It would explain why he's still clapped by the exact same things that could clap him before demonhood, and he got scammed super hard by the chaos gods for their amusement.
Interesting enough, in the books of the Angel Exterminatus there was a short chapter detailing Fulgrim landing on (Chemos?) about how he got his name and one of the workers had a fairy tale book that depicted blue-armored warrior facing a scaly serpentine creature with many limbs, referencing Roboute facing Fulgrim. It was a nice touch actually.
The Primarchs fall to Chaos was predestined
Perturabo felt the Eye was always staring at him since Day 1
Halfbreed confirms he's a Daemon Primarch
I'm more convinced that Perturabo's 'ascension' is more like Huron bargain with the dark gods to save his fleeting soul.
My personal theory is that he went to Magnus for help with his soul wound (considering that Magnus was his only real friend) and Magnus pulls a Lorgar and forces him into ascension against his will. This helps keeps Perty in character and helps explain why he doesn’t spend more time around Magnus.
@@Mr._Galaxywide if he did it would have angered him that biggyE offered magnus a way out but not him
One idea I've had for a while is: what if a ship full of pre heresy word bearers arrived into the current setting? and by pre heresy, I mean before the emperor got the ultramarines to mess with them pre heresy.
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I wouldn´t want to be the Servitor that has to clean their Power Armor, that´s for sure.
Simple they die
No doubt they would be executed, but if they somehow live then they will love the Imperial cult and hate their fallen brothers.
@@humanity600 I they lived they probably didn't meet the inquisition
@@Voltboy1449 true enough lol.
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Gotta ask, which was the biggest?
@@bobbyrabii6119 C'tan giving the Necrons immortality
My theory is that Perturabo ascended in a similar manner to to how Corvus became a warp entity: by using his innate primarch connection to the warp.
Also, the more I learn about Lorgar the more I think that he should be the primary antagonist of the setting. Such an underutilized character.
He would be a better warmaster than Abaddon.
I like the idea that Perterabo is like an inverse Guilliman. Both are using armor to keep them alive until they can figure out a way to fully cure themselves And it's fitting that while gillman is willing to work with others including xenos, Thus actually making progress, Pert has Been mutating into a obliterator
Could you do a video on the potential latent warp abilities in each primarch like how Corvus turned into a demon Raven primarch?
The form all daemon primarchs have are their actual warp forms like corvus. Just that those form got corrupted with the chaos gods influences.
I think he already kind of touched that topic in his "the primarch's unique warp abilities" video or whatever it was called. As for other than Corvus and the demon primarchs we never got too much intel from GW about this topic, so it's kind of rough actually doing a video on that, I reckon.
It's a fictional setting, the potential is whatever the writers want, any intel on their warp abilities that exists was covered in the video about the primarch powers
@@crxcify1x the former part of your comment makes no sense, tf does it being fiction have to do with it? You telling him to make up warp powers for the primarchs? 🤨
@@humanity600 I'm saying their potential warp powers are whatever a black library writer wants them to be at any given time so a video into their POTENTIAL powers would be wildly speculative at best and impossible at worst. That's the whole point of what I'm saying, a video on their potential powers would have to be either a rehashing of his primarch abilities video or just majorkill making up powers that a primarch could have.
How each pre-heresy primarch would react to the current imperium when placed in Gullimans shoes would be a cool video idea
I wonder what Lorgar especially would think, yeah he'd be happy people are now worshipping the emperor as a god, but he might still have issues with how they are doing it. Hell it might be even more interesting if he goes basically the mirror route of Guilliman with this. Seeing how the ecclesiarchy is corrupt and causing a lot of problems for the Imperium, trying to fix it and end up somewhat agreeing with G-man that the Imperium needs more than faith, like how Roboute is starting to see that the Imperial cult may have sort of a point.
Lorgar and Guilliman, church and state. Honestly those two working together would be the best at making and managing empires out of the bunch.
Perturabo: Gets angry that the Imperium is even more disappointing than before, but gets to reclaiming and Crusading while being super bitter all the time, you don't want to be a Guardsman under his command no matter what.
Lorgar: "Ah finally, humanity in religious"
Angron: "FUCK OFF, I DON'T CARE THAT THE EMPEROR'S SHITTY EMPIRE IS IN RUINS!"
I won't do the rest.
Angron(let’s assume that in this scenario he was put to sleep and the nails eventually broke down due to age): _This…this isn’t right. He’s not a god! He’s not a GOD! Stop praising him as if he’s listening! HE’S NOT LISTENING! HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU!_
Perterabo: _We traded death at the hands of Horus…for this. Dorn, I wish I could see you one last time. The look upon your face would make all of the pain I suffered in your shadow worth it_
Lorgar(loyalist): _Mankind has seen the light, at last. But look around you; see the man at your side, and tell me if he is loyal or a traitor. You cannot, because traitors wear the skin of the faithful to deceive the weak and unobservant. I come to you now, not as a lord or a king, but as a humble preacher. I preach the truth of His divinity, I speak of His deeds and impart them unto you, his chosen children. Sons and Daughters of Terra, lend me your ears! I shall preach to you now, not just of a god, but of a man, the Greatest Man who has ever or will ever live!_
Fulgrim(loyalist): _I have come to you now in your time of greatest need, to show you the way. The way to a brighter future, a new tomorrow! I, Fulgrim, last living son of the Emperor of Mankind, hereby declare that I and I alone shall lead this glorious Imperium. I do not seek to usurp my father, only to use the mighty realm He has crafted to protect YOU! The people! I see your hurt, your fear, and I tell you now to cast it away. There is nothing in this galaxy that Mankind cannot conquer, for what the strength of the Xenos, the Mutant, and the Traitor is as nothing compared to the glory that is the Master of Mankind!_
Mortarion(loyalist): (no grand speeches, no preaching, just a cold and ruthless purge followed by the initiation of a crusade akin to Roboute’s)
Alpharius/Omegon: (same as Mortarion, only a lot subtler)
Konrad: _The strong have preyed for too long upon the meek, and I have heard your prayers. Though you spoke not to me, still I heard, and I have arrived to deliver the cold wrath of the Emperor. Traitors, listen well, for I know that you can hear me! I am Konrad Curze! Last loyal son of the Emperor! AND I HAVE COME FOR YOU!_
Magnus(and this one’s the kicker): _Father, I have returned_
(the Crimson King reaches out and rests a bronzed hand upon his fathers withered chest. The Emperor has sat immobile upon the Golden Throne for centuries, and yet at the Primarchs touch, a single withered finger on the Emperor’s withered hand twitches)
_I see now why you gave me such gifts. It was my duty to hold this vigil, not yours. Would that I could turn back the chronometer and fulfill my purpose; perhaps you would be standing here before me, rather than the reverse. I cannot undo what has been done, but I can try to save what remains. I will finish your great work, and I will free you from this…thing. You will rise again, but not today. Until we meet again, father. Be well, and know that I love you still_
@@TheCorrodedMan Ok I like all of yours, but imagine with Magnas, this happens, The primarch after touching the Emperor and saying his piece, is then contacted by the emperor, asking if he is really sorry, Magnus says yes, the emperor asks if hes willing to suffer for the emperor, Magnus hesitates before replying yes. The emperor then says "then lend me your strength", united the emperor begins to close the webway gate, this strain begins to destroy Magnus, as this is only his bad side he is heavily drawn to flee, but deep within him some good remains, what drove him to defect form chaos and he pushes on.
This is what the emperor was waiting for, this was a test and Magnus passed it, for in that moment Magnus good shard emerges having been combined with all the previously missing pieces and is reunited with Magnus. In a flash Magnus is whole, restored, the webway is closed which also means the Emperor better understands it (lets say while yes he forced it closed, how it closed taught him how he could of done it easier) but most of all, the Emperor arises, his body quickly reforming, his soul pieces return to him and he stands, without any words spoken or transmitted, he and Mangus swap places. Magnus knows this is his duty and he embraces it, the Atronomica does not even flicker, in fact it glows brighter as Mangus is able to channel all his power into it.
The Emperor stretches and turns to his son, then kneels, he apologized, he explains that after so long on the throne with the ability to hear cry in his name and see many lives he relised that he had lacked one thing when making his empire, its what drove his fellow primordial away, he lacked love and empathy, if he had some he could of saved his sons he would of been able to see Magnus needed not to be punished but shown what dangers their were.
With that the Emperor turned and walked away, while he knew he had an empire to save, that was not his first task.
no,
To him,
He had 19 sons to save.
Technically, Mortarion did do the proper rituals for a Nurglitch transformation, if he'd had tasks to do in order to make himself a daemon prince, purposefully, it likely wouldn't help him achieve his goal, and by having Nurgle be his goal, he wouldn't be fit for Nurgle's ultimate daemon princehood, as you mist cone to Nurgle with reluctance and desperation, otherwise you aren't his, you're downright opposite to him, a being of foolhardy aspiration, fit more for Tzeentch than logical, resigned Nurgle.
A twisted around way of thinking, but fitting. Good idea.
This is spot on. Nurgle is despair and futility, along with embracing a kind of nihilism. Mortarion's whole life was a desperate attempt to take control for himself and his sons, and one of those sons sold destroyed him with his love. No wonder he just gave up. He's nurgle incarnate.
How does that explain Typhon? He was clearly an eager follower, not a bit of reluctance.
@headlibrarian1996 A different way to gain Nurgle's favor is to revel in eternity and viirality, and the highest way to display that is resilience against all affliction and all tribulation, so that you might spread your own will until it blots out the stars themselves. Typhus is such a soul that he refuses to bend the knee to the hesitant Mortarion, Typhus would prefer to render the weak and the frail who refuse Nurgle's strength into mindless zombies, unburdened by the shackles of thought and personal consideration, Typhus is so immersed in Nurglitch power that he fails to see the difference between himself and the unthinking and irrational fecundity he embodies, Typhus is just as much a zombie as his own thralls, driven to madness and delusion under the yoke of a God of sickness who works through agents of corruption that only work as well as they do because they don't consider themselves or their own wellbeing. Plagues run their course, poxes kill off the weak, the bodies and minds of Nurgle's chosen rot in rqual measure, but a twisted strength bubbles up in them too, swelling them until it ruptures forth, the strength they wished for as they embraced Nurgle, the strength to deny death. Typhus is strong because he is in denial over the depths of his depravity and the futility in the glories he has gained, he is but a vector for a plague that destroys all, a swarm of walking corpses and daemon flies and deluded thoughts, a rancid pus that pleases Nurgle. Mortarion still has a mind to see the reality of Nurgle's way, and yet he is resigned to the same fate as the rest of the Death Guard. Denial of an indomitable fate and the despair to submit to it, with the knowledge to understand it, these are Nurglitch traits, even if they run counter in some ways, both these things gain you dark strength in the court of the maggot.
But they must be true, for if you hold onto an introspective hope, the ability to reflect on your current state, and the questioning spirit to ponder change and salvation? These thoughts are Tzeentch. Typhus doesn't hope for a better state of things, he truly revels in his delusion that he is strong and that he will last on just as his plagues do, not realizing that he is but a vector for Nurgle's wishes, and that all that Nurgle wishes for is the downfall and decay of all things, including himself. Nurgle adores Typhus, because Typhus is emblematic of mortal delusion and coping mechanisms, a mental immune system desperately trying to keep what's left of a mind above the tide of filth and sorrow that Nurgle truly is. And just as Nurgle loves Typhus for his foolishness, he loves Mortarion for his indomitable rationality, for such a hard to conquer soul is truly of great strength, and the greatest of things produce the greatest of corpses, their rot that much sweeter.
@@headlibrarian1996 Misery loves company, he isn't an eager follower. Think of a particularly convincing salesman who hates his boss and his life. He knows he is signing you up to suffer until you embrace Nurgle, he also knows that he cant stop. If he ever stops, his misery will increase dramatically. So he allies himself with the thing he most hates, and works in it's service. Nurgle knows this, *that* is why he really is property of the grandfather. Except this sales pitch is a case of giga-space-aids. Whenever Typhon speaks about how great Nurgle's gifts are he is being sarcastic af. At least thats my head-cannon, cause for a while I sold cars for a greedy parasite piece of shit, and I was good at it, but I hated watching him screw people over and pay me pennies on the dollar. I couldnt quit cause I was paycheck to paycheck, walked to work, and nobody else was hiring, but to talk to me you'd think I was living the high life and loved my job.
Maybe Perturabo's suit has a deamon trapped in it, acting as the power source.
Kinda like a daemon engine
Would be cool for it to be either a necron engine, or a C'tan shard
It's kind of weird that of all the Daemon Princes you'd think Slaanesh would suck off their Princes the most but no it's Khorne because have you seen how much they regen which is the only reason they don't die.
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They didn't sell their souls, they sold... Their hair
I'd love a video on how you think each primarch would do as warmaster
Chaos fall aside, only the Lion, Gulliman, and Horus were real contenders for the title. Maybe Dorn, but that would just be asking for trouble. That said, I still agree this would be an interesting hypothetical. The thought of the Night Haunter as Warmaster is just too hilariously ill-fitting to not want to imagine.
Lorgar keeps the light on at night because he knows Corvus waits in his closet.
And finally, one night, Lorgar grows a pair and decides to check the closet, only to find Konrad Curze hiding in there. "Idiot, Corvus is under your bed! The closet is mine and Alparius is under the stairs. And we buried Dorn in the backyard."
Would love to see you explain the Octarius war
Perturabo, Angron, Mortarion, and Magnus were all sad stories of ascension. Perturabo is diseased, Angron was on death's door, Mortarion had to pick between two hells, and Magnus had no control over it. I really would like to see a Chaos Rebellion where all four of them are like "Fuck This!" and rebel against Chaos leading to a Chaos civil war and a permanent crippling of the faction and those four potentially being redeemed by the Emperor, but choosing to remain in the Warp as the Imperium is no longer home to them.
They can't. As demon princes they are now de facto avatar of the chaos gods. They have some resemblance of free toughts but most of their actions and will are inlfuenced by the gods will. Even belakor think of himself as an indipendent demi god of its own when in fact he is a servant of the chaos gods.
@@mattiaslime8926 yeah but it would be cool
Well, the almighty god-emperor already stated that he could save Morty if given enought time. I reckon all of them could find redemption if our shining golden god were ever to return. So prepare to never see that story unravel! :-)
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Influenced by but not directly controlled. Mortation's attack on Ultrimar was against Nurgle's wishes. Also Scarbrand's entire backstory.
I pledge "Rule of cool".
Idea: What if each Primarch swapped worlds? Ex. Guilliman landing on Inuit or Mortarion landing on Prospero? Though they still have their respective primarch abilities, so no magic Angron or Siegemaster Sanguinius
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I'd imagine that most wouldn't do any better than Angron in his position. Perhaps Corvus or Magnus would escape, and Horus' charisma or Fulgrim's prettiness might keep them from the worst of slavery. Perhaps someone like Perturabo would be willing to kill their fellows and thus avoid the butcher's nails. Guilliman might actually prove himself more valuable as an administrative slave than as a gladiator. Then again that's just my opinion.
When it comes to Perturabo I think his Dreadnaught-like armor may have a new form of Daemon engine thus creating confusion over he is or isn't a Daemon Prince.
He is. Daemon form can be anything. Perturabo is a Daemon prince of chaos undivided thus it can see the heavy armored form as the most fitting for him
I always like to imagine lorgar siting in his room looking at the window and seeing a demonic crow looking straight at him kinda like a demonic version pf the poem of Edgar Allan Poe the crow
Lorgar: **enjoying some chaos tea**
Corvus: I came in like a wrecking ball!
1:16 I don’t know about anyone else, but that specifically managed to convince me..! ^^
I would love to see that after Vashtor full ascention to Godhood sent part of his own power back in time to make Perturabo ascend to Daemonhood, making Perturabo the Deamon-Primarch of Vashtor even before Vastor reach Godhood, because since time has no meaning in the warp it is totally possible
That implies that Vashtor succeeded in his efforts, which is still far from set in stone.
Vashtorr isn't even a Chaos God like Malice or Archaon!
@@christiandauz3742 first Archaon is NIT a chaos god, he's their slave; second: I love Malice but has no posible link to Perturabo, and third If Vashtorr becomes a full fledge Chaos God he sent a portiin of his power back in time in order to fuel Perturabo's ascention, in the Warp time and space doesn't exists so it is technically posible
@@christiandauz3742 *Yet
@@ericdraven8837
Archaon is a Chaos God by Age of Sigmar, he is no longer human. Normal people see him like a Daemon
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Vashtor and will be his Daemon Prince
From what I remember of their lore, the Word Bearers are pretty neat. Schemey, zealous, bastards, right? It'd be cool to see more of them. I always like a villain that _chose_ to be a villain (it's why I love the Drukhari), someone you can't really sympathize with, you know? Lorgar really fits that mold.
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It's a personal headcannon of mine that Perturabo has assended to the level of a deamon Prince, but he is not chaos undivided. Instead he's likely aligned himself with an unaligned chaos entity who is trying to gain power in the warp, most likely Vashtoor.
Where in my opinion Perturabo would make the most sense is as champion or even leader of the forces of the hell forge, as he shows no allegiance to a single chaos god and also is one hell of a crafty dude! Also it'd give that position more character than that new guy they just introduced that GW just pulled out of theirs. What does everyone think?
Read Halfbreed
How I believe Perty became a daemon prince (if he did):
Perturabo: So if I become a daemon prince I can wreck Dorn's shit more?
Chaos gods: Yes
Perturabo: Sign me in
His fight against Angron showed he doesnt value strength that isn't ones own. He mocked Angron for being a slave to Chaos and pointed out that he was about to get his ass whooped because Khorne was the one with the muscle, Angron was just a vessel, and as the slaughter on the battlefield came to a hault, Angron lost most of his power. Not saying it COULDNT happen, but Perturabo would have to be in a situation so bad he couldn't even pretend there was a way out.
@@alastor8091 And since when Perturabo is reasonable and non-hypocritical when talking about Dorn? Hahaha
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I'd like to see Lorgar and the Word Bears take center stage, the disruption he could cause to the imperium in regards to it's faith in the emperor couldn't be understated, he could potentially bring it to it's knees.
Listening to your wording on Russ vs Magnus, it got me thinking about Russ’s abilities. Every primarch inherited a trait from The Emperor, what if Russ inherited the ability to destroy (in reality, and on a spiritual level) and loyalty.
My personal theory is that he went to Magnus for help with his soul wound (considering that Magnus was his only real friend) and Magnus pulls a Lorgar and forces him into ascension against his will. This helps keeps Perty in character and helps explain why he doesn’t spend more time around Magnus.
I don't think so. Magnus even as a daemon primarch isn't have the cruelty others have even during the invasion of Fenris. I doubt he would do what Lorgar did.
@@berilsevvalbekret772 He would have done it to save Perty's life as his soul was draining because of Fulgrim's wound.
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What if Perturabo is slowly replacing himself with machinery, until eventually when his entire soul is gone all that is left is an enormous, primarch-level man of gold AI. That would be fucking awesome.
now that would be cool.
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Perturabo great plot
I think as perturabo never had a sense of acomplishment and any hard time with any issue
He wasnt angry at fulgrim
He was happy
Because He got something to work on that He didnt knew howto do it
So he full isolated himself to learn about it
And could do it in 10 millenias
So he extends his life using
Dreadnought/obliterator tech
Or
Got a deal with vashtor
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Could you please make a video about how well each of the legions did during the great crusade? Basically ranking them based on how much they had conquered and in general what each legion did. (or something like that.) I think it would be awesome, thankyou very much majordaddy.
Or just talk about it in general. There are a lot of way to grade this, too. Most worlds? Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Word Bearers. Most compliant? Night Lords, Imperial Fists. Most stable? Luna Wolves. Lots to talk about.
@@seprithlicastia463 yes I know dark angels and ultramarines did well. But you’re flat out wrong on the word bearers, sorry I’m not being mean I’m just saying they were literally criticized for conquering barely anything because they were too busy making choir boy hubs and giant churches praising the guy who outright told people not to call him god. I meant not necessarily just ranking but talking in general.
A video on each primarchs reaction to chaos and demons would be lit
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My head canon for perty is that he is working to make machines that keep him alive, while also making demon engines for chaos. Not really a demon primarch but more like a faction of chaos
Vashtorr: frwend? :D
Getting a video avout how each of the ore hersey primarhbwoul reacted to being in guillimans situation would be pretty cool ngl
I like to think that the chaos gods are like the show shark tank the rituals and sacrifices are a pitch to get there support and when you displease them and they want out they cut there funding and turn you into a chaos spawn.
For Perty i would say, why not both?
What is a Demon Dreadknought other than a Soulgrinder.
I could totally see him chilling in the Forge of Souls with Vashtorr, turning himself into a living Fortress so Dorn can siege his Nutz
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Probably one of the best written videos from majorkil.
Perty ends up a daemon prince of vashtor. Calling it now
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In the case of Magnus I think that while he was still gathering the shards of his soul (and growing more corrupted in the meantime) it wasn't until he discovered his soul shard's energy had been used by another thereby making it inaccessible (at least in the time he had) plus the need for a quick exit from the palace that he fully accepted Tzeentch's energy into that vacant sot in his soul which truly turned him into a daemon/daemon prince thereby causing the Emperor's Aegis to recognize him as a daemon and yet him into the warp. Until that point he was basically just a daemon/daemon prince in name only. That's my head canon at least otherwise he wouldn't have made it past the Aegis and into the Throne room in the first place. Though one could also argue that it was Big E that let him in anyway to present his offer of a retribution and a new legion and when he felt Magnus truly accept his new Master the Emperor then just let the Aegis do its thing.
Hey majorkill maybe you could make a video on the different warships of the imperial navy? It would be kinda cool
Even though I agree that it would go against his character, I REALLY want Vashtorr to win and ascend to godhood (fat chance that'lll happen but I can dream can't I?)
Anyway, if Vashtorr wins, I think it would be awesome if Perturabo became his first Demon Prince. He's already been working together with Abbadon and he definitely won't pledge himself to him. If Perturabo is already a Prince, then he probably LOATHES having to answer to FOUR Chaos Gods and Vashtorr is definitely more his type, he's infinitely more direct and clear about what he wants, and not as fickle and weird, plus the Demon Machine Aesthetic would be awesome.
If he's not ascended, then he's simply running out of time before he perishes and for the reasons listed above, Vashtorr is as good a Chaos god as any.
I vote Perturabo as Demon Prince of Vashtorr
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The third Fabius bile book actually has a scene on fulgrim’s pleasure planet and my GOD it’s an absolute nightmare in the fullest sense of the word.
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I got into Warhammer and, even before finding Magorkill, still heard it as "Eye of Terra" until I saw it written down. It is an awkward phrase.
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The writer from the Black Library said that Perturabo became a Daemon Prince, and added that the Daemon Prince of Chaos undivided is only Lorgar.
Wait what if Perty's a daemon prince of Vashtorr?
@@InfiniteMonkeysSA Would be intersting, but they were stated to sometimes work together at arm's lenght and fingers crossed behind their backs.
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I'm curious why the Loyalist Primarchs didn't somehow acquire their own Emperor based ascension.
Demon Primarch inspired models need to be sculpted!
Lorgar: *Hiding in his tower*
Corvus, skulking around outside the tower chanting creepily: Lorgaaaaar. Time to come out and plaaaa-aay.
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i think the despair, which some argue is the emotion Nurgle feeds off of, that Mortarion felt at the sight of his dying sons is what fuelled his ascension.
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1:14 ngl that "And fourthly... please?" was adorable
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And people wonder why Perturabo has trust issues
Dude those little zoom out/in edits are gold
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Am i the only one who thinks perty may or may not be the "daemon prince" for vashtorr who either turned him into one or augmented him to be on pair with the DP's. The whole augmentation to be on pair would also fit perty but hey that's just a theory.... A film/game theory, thanks for riding.
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Angron: the missons,the nightmares.....they are finally.....over.
*And then along came lorgar, he hurled-*
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Solid video been wondering about this since I read about fulgrim betraying and trying to sacrifice perty to ascend but failed to yet still ascended
Everytime I hear "Lorghar is hiding" I got "Lorghar, come out and Play" in my head 🤣
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What would have happened if Perturabo was made Praetorian of Terra instead of Rogal Dorn? Given how hard he carried the traitors during the Siege and whatnot.
Dorn becone traitor instead of perturabo.
@@mattiaslime8926 I dunno, that seems too straightforward for 40k 🤣
Cool vid majorkill
I like that lorgar was the only one who really got a consolation ascension
By far the wildest descriptions of 40k I've ever heard loll
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Subscribed today, because you said "please"....
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Hello Majorkill,
Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
7:10 "Don't mess with me! I have wings, a big sword...And half a Space Wolf!"
I think Majorkills Imperium bias just clouds his judgment on the Chaos Primarchs. Their betrayals all make perfect sense if the theory, that the Emperor always planned for the Heresy to happen, is true. Maybe he even had a secret deal with the Chaos Gods for the knowledge of how to create the Primarchs.
The Emperor was always an asshole or indifferent towards Lorgar, Perturabo, Angron, Kurze & Khan.
On the opposite side he was very respectful and sometimes kind towards Horus, Dorn, Guiliman, Sanguinius, Magnus & Fulgrim.
It would makes perfect sense that the Emperor was respectful towards the Primarchs he wanted to stay loyal and disrespectful towards the Primarchs he would have to give over to Chaos. His plan just did not work out perfectly because he lost some of the Primarchs he wanted to stay loyal, like Horus and Magnus.
This theory makes the Emperor seem alot less incompetent. It makes sense why Chaos would want to make a deal for half of the Primarchs because they want constant war (The Great Game) and it makes sense why Chaos would fuck over the Emperors plan by taking Horus from him (His favorite son).
Honestly "sidegrate" is very good way describe the Primarchs accession
Magnus is the only one who really lost out.
@@minuette1752 loosing your cognitive thought, free will and in some cases what made you strong or who you are doesn't sound like the best deal to me
@@NP3GA Yes but you can never be killed an get incredible gifts.
@@minuette1752 gifts more like chains, immortality more like an eternity of being a toy of an uncaring god.
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