I got to see him a couple times with his big band. Absolutely phenomenal! In 1974 I got to speak to him for a few minutes. He was a gentleman. I heard that the feud he had with Sinatra was so bad that Frank got a couple friends to beat Rich up. You did a good documentary! Thanks
Sinatra didn't have those "connections" yet. They had an actual brawl backstage at the Paramount because Buddy was whispering while Sinatra was singing a ballad solo. Of course, the future USMC martial arts instructor won it...and they became great friends later on. After WWII, Sinatra fronted Rich some money to start his own big band. I got this story directly from Rich, in a very pleasant and funny conversation in a Bronx club in 72. Plus, I just saw an interview with tenor virtuoso Don Menza, done just a year ago, in which he stated Buddy was the best band leader he ever played for, even though he didn't read music.
A musician friend of mine with inside knowledge about Buddy Rich said that his orchestra consisted primarily of young players who simply wanted to put in their time for their resumes. After every concert, they expected their regular chewing out (aka "being cussed out") for 20 minutes after getting on the bus to leave for the next gig. I watched the The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson every night, just so I could catch one of his guest appearances. Johnny Carson kept bringing him back as a guest to help Buddy's waning career because America was losing interest in big bands. Buddy was always extremely sarcastic to Johnny and everybody else on the show and yet, Johnny kept bringing him back. Buddy is primarily responsible for my interest in jazz drumming, in spite of his "Brooklyn attitude". Buddy is the only drummer from this era that I ever heard anything negative about. Louis Bellson, Papa Jo Jones, Gene Krupa, Joe Morello and others were very positive in every way and would only say good things about Buddy. From what I understand, Buddy was respectful to other drummers who played on his level. Overall, it was either "Buddy's way or the highway" for his band members.
Buddy's career was NOT waning when Carson began having him on. His big band helped to reenergize interest in contemporary big jazz ensembles. Carson idolized Rich as a drummer and gladly have him on, and your views on "sarcasm" toward Johnny and show staff don't seem to get it. Carson expected a poor man's Rickles out of Rich, and he always got it.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 You say his career wasn't waning yet within the same sentence you say it helped reignite interest in big band music. So Big Band was out of style but Buddy was still popular like in the days of Dorsey. Buddy just refused to quit (which I admire) but he was NOT selling any fucking records in the 70s.
@@wheezvonklaw284 His shows were generally SRO ( I saw the Rich band more than 25 times). So were the Basie bands, and other big jazz ensembles. Record sales are nowhere near the sole arbiter of career strength. Sinatra record sales were down considerably from the 70s onward, but he remained the most prominent and revered popular singer well into old age.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 The Big Band era was OVER. And yes, you are only really as good as your last record. To pretend that Rich was somehow relevant in the era of psych, rock, disco and punk is laughable. Buddy's mind was frozen in one style -and never moved forward. It really bothered him that he could never be a frontman/singer (even though he TRIED)like his old roommate Sinatra. I am a drummer and grew up playing out of some of Rich's ghostwritten books. I think I'm more fascinated by Buddy's utter lack of respect and hatred towards other forms of music.He just HATED everything except jazz-which I find hilarious and kind of pathetic at the same time.
@@wheezvonklaw284 You sound nearly as filled with as much anger as Rich sometimes had. Maybe it's frustrating not to be able to approach his level of virtuosity and, yes, he could be cruel. (His bass player, Joel di Bartolo who later played in the Tonight Show Band on NBC for years, told me Buddy was a pussycat if you played up to his exacting standards.) I saw Rich perform at the Fillmore East following Procul Harum, and, a year later, just ahead of the at-their-peak at the 1970 Rutgers Jazz Festival. Nothing but standing ovations by young audiences. Rich got a more screaming response from the "hippy" audience than PH did, & BS & T got a tepid response after being stupidly scheduled as the headliner last act immediately after the infinitely more exciting BR Big Band (should have been more separation). In other words, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I hate the expression "end of story,"...but... end of story.
😃🎼🎵🎶IN LOVING MEMORY OF BUDDY RICH, You Were The Father of American Jazz Drummers When You "WERE" Alive, Your "MEMORIAL LEGACY" will "LIVE ON" Forever And Ever And Ever. And We will Always, Always Remember You, OL' FRIEND. And By The Way, Buddy Rich In "MUSIC HEAVEN", SomeDay, We'll See You In "MUSIC HEAVEN". And By The Way, Happy "AFTERLIFE" Birthday "AND/OR" Happy "HEAVENLY" Birthday, Buddy Rich. We ❤You. 🎶🎵🎼😃
I was fortunate back in 1970 to actually run into him playing in Hyannis Port, Cape Cod. One afternoon I rode my bike by the nightclub and there he was standing on the steps having a smoke while his band took a break inside. I introduced myself and told him I was down here from Montreal and that I played drums. He put out his smoke, invited me in, closed the door and I sat there for 2 hours, jaw dropped, the only one in the club watching him rehearse. What a nice man, but being a young polite Canadian, I think I got in the door because I called him Mr. Rich. I too would stay up and wait for him on the Johnny Carson show.
I'm 70, and heard/saw Buddy the first time in 1958. I was a young drummer and followed Buddy from then forward. When Buddy had his own bands, of course he wanted it his way, which is the same as the employer in any job... including simple things, like the way the band looked. (i.e., the "beard" example) He demanded the best from whoever was in the band, and gave them a simple choice... "It's my band. So, do it my way, or leave.", which again is completely fair. If you have heard or read comments from those who stayed with him during his last 20 years or so, they all were on the same page, which is why the band's quality stands, to this day. Those same people have said that once you understood him, he was the greatest bandleader they had worked with. (Great examples of that is the online interview with Don Menza, and the interview with Steve Marcus.) I would also mention that "being friends" is a great thing, but it's also why many bands have obvious weaknesses. Buddy simply valued musical quality over allowing a "friend" to contribute less. "Being nice" is great, but it's not a requirement for any employer, especially if the quality suffers. Buddy always wanted his players (and himself!) to aim higher, and I think that's admirable.
I think a lot of Buddy's "dark side" came from really not having a childhood. He was a performer from the time he could walk and had the responsibility of being the family's breadwinner at an age when other children were having fun in grade school . According to Mel Torme's BR biography, he was regularly beaten by his father and his mother was jealous of his talent and fame. That would be enough to turn any person into a troubled adult.
I knew him first person I absolutely loved him I managed to work w many of his.sidemen thru the years many who had.to bear his rantings..but. ot ONE guy bad mouth him in the least..all of the sidemen I giged with highly respected buddy for what he instilled in them..I have worked extensively Ely ( 25years) w Dave Dana of "buddy and soul" fame. I also worked with a few of his bass players again?? Same thing David said of him I also worked w a few.horn cats of his.later bands and in fact I was I who spilled the.rant tape on the world when I was.doing a show in brdg port ct. Where a horn player asked if I liked buddy I said HELL YEAH I DO HE SAID JAVE.I GOT.A.TAPE.YOU GOTTA HEAR HE LEFT ONE I FOUND A DUPPING CASSETTED DECK DUPED OFF ONE COPY made a copy for a few of my friends I made the Pro.ise me they wouldnt.release it..sadly they did buddy was still alive when I got that tape I absutely regret letting it out of the bag I tried.. but what can I do? 😢 I believe he was already suffering that brain tumor ( as far back as late 85 ) anyway through the years I spoke with br exten sively.smoked weed w him rode on a closed roller.c oaster w him at lake comPounce in Bristol ct right after his quad bypass..I'm sorry I just have to say it. I loved this guy to death I loved his dedication to the art his e nthusiasm for the big band sounds I loved nearly every tune in that book and on and on on
BUDDY RICH was NO ONE'S "guy" this guy....was THEE GUY-GURU of modern Drum-Set esp BADboy BIG BAND JAZZ SWING and BIG BAND Orchestra JAZZ !! RIP BUDDY RICH !!
This is total nonsense, click bait...Buddy passed away in 1987, respect the man's legacy and it is socially inappropriate to speak unkindly about someone who is deceased and cannot defend themselves. Do not speak ill of the dead...!!
I got to see him a couple times with his big band. Absolutely phenomenal! In 1974 I got to speak to him for a few minutes. He was a gentleman.
I heard that the feud he had with Sinatra was so bad that Frank got a couple friends to beat Rich up.
You did a good documentary! Thanks
Sinatra didn't have those "connections" yet. They had an actual brawl backstage at the Paramount because Buddy was whispering while Sinatra was singing a ballad solo. Of course, the future USMC martial arts instructor won it...and they became great friends later on. After WWII, Sinatra fronted Rich some money to start his own big band. I got this story directly from Rich, in a very pleasant and funny conversation in a Bronx club in 72. Plus, I just saw an interview with tenor virtuoso Don Menza, done just a year ago, in which he stated Buddy was the best band leader he ever played for, even though he didn't read music.
A musician friend of mine with inside knowledge about Buddy Rich said that his orchestra consisted primarily of young players who simply wanted to put in their time for their resumes. After every concert, they expected their regular chewing out (aka "being cussed out") for 20 minutes after getting on the bus to leave for the next gig.
I watched the The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson every night, just so I could catch one of his guest appearances. Johnny Carson kept bringing him back as a guest to help Buddy's waning career because America was losing interest in big bands. Buddy was always extremely sarcastic to Johnny and everybody else on the show and yet, Johnny kept bringing him back. Buddy is primarily responsible for my interest in jazz drumming, in spite of his "Brooklyn attitude".
Buddy is the only drummer from this era that I ever heard anything negative about. Louis Bellson, Papa Jo Jones, Gene Krupa, Joe Morello and others were very positive in every way and would only say good things about Buddy. From what I understand, Buddy was respectful to other drummers who played on his level.
Overall, it was either "Buddy's way or the highway" for his band members.
Buddy's career was NOT waning when Carson began having him on. His big band helped to reenergize interest in contemporary big jazz ensembles. Carson idolized Rich as a drummer and gladly have him on, and your views on "sarcasm" toward Johnny and show staff don't seem to get it. Carson expected a poor man's Rickles out of Rich, and he always got it.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 You say his career wasn't waning yet within the same sentence you say it helped reignite interest in big band music. So Big Band was out of style but Buddy was still popular like in the days of Dorsey. Buddy just refused to quit (which I admire) but he was NOT selling any fucking records in the 70s.
@@wheezvonklaw284 His shows were generally SRO ( I saw the Rich band more than 25 times). So were the Basie bands, and other big jazz ensembles. Record sales are nowhere near the sole arbiter of career strength. Sinatra record sales were down considerably from the 70s onward, but he remained the most prominent and revered popular singer well into old age.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 The Big Band era was OVER. And yes, you are only really as good as your last record. To pretend that Rich was somehow relevant in the era of psych, rock, disco and punk is laughable. Buddy's mind was frozen in one style -and never moved forward. It really bothered him that he could never be a frontman/singer (even though he TRIED)like his old roommate Sinatra. I am a drummer and grew up playing out of some of Rich's ghostwritten books. I think I'm more fascinated by Buddy's utter lack of respect and hatred towards other forms of music.He just HATED everything except jazz-which I find hilarious and kind of pathetic at the same time.
@@wheezvonklaw284 You sound nearly as filled with as much anger as Rich sometimes had. Maybe it's frustrating not to be able to approach his level of virtuosity and, yes, he could be cruel. (His bass player, Joel di Bartolo who later played in the Tonight Show Band on NBC for years, told me Buddy was a pussycat if you played up to his exacting standards.) I saw Rich perform at the Fillmore East following Procul Harum, and, a year later, just ahead of the at-their-peak at the 1970 Rutgers Jazz Festival. Nothing but standing ovations by young audiences. Rich got a more screaming response from the "hippy" audience than PH did, & BS & T got a tepid response after being stupidly scheduled as the headliner last act immediately after the infinitely more exciting BR Big Band (should have been more separation). In other words, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I hate the expression "end of story,"...but... end of story.
Sounds like a perfectionist, and that's why he was one of the greatest.
Cool.
Thanks for sharing.
He was a terrible person but a great drummer
@@MARIANSCATLIFFE why do you say that?
@@kevinsplinter8595 heard it all my life from jazz musicians who knew Buddy
Yor welcome nice piece
Nice piece
😃🎼🎵🎶IN LOVING MEMORY OF BUDDY RICH, You Were The Father of American Jazz Drummers When You "WERE" Alive, Your "MEMORIAL LEGACY" will "LIVE ON" Forever And Ever And Ever. And We will Always, Always Remember You, OL' FRIEND. And By The Way, Buddy Rich In "MUSIC HEAVEN", SomeDay, We'll See You In "MUSIC HEAVEN". And By The Way, Happy "AFTERLIFE" Birthday "AND/OR" Happy "HEAVENLY" Birthday, Buddy Rich. We ❤You. 🎶🎵🎼😃
I was fortunate back in 1970 to actually run into him playing in Hyannis Port, Cape Cod. One afternoon I rode my bike by the nightclub and there he was standing on the steps having a smoke while his band took a break inside. I introduced myself and told him I was down here from Montreal and that I played drums. He put out his smoke, invited me in, closed the door and I sat there for 2 hours, jaw dropped, the only one in the club watching him rehearse. What a nice man, but being a young polite Canadian, I think I got in the door because I called him Mr. Rich. I too would stay up and wait for him on the Johnny Carson show.
I have this joke with my wife when she says "No one is perfect" and I always give her the same answer "WRONG ,Buddy Rich was " LOL
Had no time for non-perfection. Pure genius!!
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“ short fuse “ & “ foul mouth “ 🤣. Buddy’s almost a new Rock musician .
I'm 70, and heard/saw Buddy the first time in 1958. I was a young drummer and followed Buddy from then forward. When Buddy had his own bands, of course he wanted it his way, which is the same as the employer in any job... including simple things, like the way the band looked. (i.e., the "beard" example) He demanded the best from whoever was in the band, and gave them a simple choice... "It's my band. So, do it my way, or leave.", which again is completely fair. If you have heard or read comments from those who stayed with him during his last 20 years or so, they all were on the same page, which is why the band's quality stands, to this day. Those same people have said that once you understood him, he was the greatest bandleader they had worked with. (Great examples of that is the online interview with Don Menza, and the interview with Steve Marcus.) I would also mention that "being friends" is a great thing, but it's also why many bands have obvious weaknesses. Buddy simply valued musical quality over allowing a "friend" to contribute less. "Being nice" is great, but it's not a requirement for any employer, especially if the quality suffers. Buddy always wanted his players (and himself!) to aim higher, and I think that's admirable.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
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He was only 69 when he died. I didn’t know that. What a shame. I admired him so much.
I think a lot of Buddy's "dark side" came from really not having a childhood. He was a performer from the time he could walk and had the responsibility of being the family's breadwinner at an age when other children were having fun in grade school . According to Mel Torme's BR biography, he was regularly beaten by his father and his mother was jealous of his talent and fame. That would be enough to turn any person into a troubled adult.
Interesting comments and commentary from people who never knew Buddy personally rather third person.
I knew him first person I absolutely loved him I managed to work w many of his.sidemen thru the years many who had.to bear his rantings..but. ot ONE guy bad mouth him in the least..all of the sidemen I giged with highly respected buddy for what he instilled in them..I have worked extensively Ely ( 25years) w Dave Dana of "buddy and soul" fame. I also worked with a few of his bass players again?? Same thing David said of him I also worked w a few.horn cats of his.later bands and in fact I was I who spilled the.rant tape on the world when I was.doing a show in brdg port ct. Where a horn player asked if I liked buddy I said HELL YEAH I DO HE SAID JAVE.I GOT.A.TAPE.YOU GOTTA HEAR HE LEFT ONE I FOUND A DUPPING CASSETTED DECK DUPED OFF ONE COPY made a copy for a few of my friends I made the
Pro.ise me they wouldnt.release it..sadly they did buddy was still alive when I got that tape I absutely regret letting it out of the bag I tried.. but what can I do? 😢 I believe he was already suffering that brain tumor ( as far back as late 85 ) anyway through the years I spoke with br exten sively.smoked weed w him rode on a closed roller.c
oaster w him at lake comPounce in Bristol ct right after his quad bypass..I'm sorry I just have to say it. I loved this guy to death I loved his dedication to the art his e nthusiasm for the big band sounds I loved nearly every tune in that book and on and on on
Nice video.Everybody know Rich and Krupa competition. Nobody talk about when Buddy Rich competing with Max Roach. I still got that cd. Rich vs Roach.
It's on TH-cam. They were at Birdland.
I got that album and about 30 others in about 20 CDs anybody interested
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@@kevp9601AGREED...and AGREE TO DIS AND DISAGREE...oui oui
Thank you 😎
YEAH, THANKS A LOT, FRIEND 😃
Dusty did not take his nonsense!
Dusty was probably musty and crotch crusty...!
Don Menza!!!!!!!!!
If the boss tells you to shave your beard, you shave your beard.
This guy, this is not my kind of guy.
BUDDY RICH was NO ONE'S "guy" this guy....was THEE GUY-GURU of modern Drum-Set esp BADboy BIG BAND JAZZ SWING and BIG BAND Orchestra JAZZ !! RIP BUDDY RICH !!
He was the greatest knuclelhead
But he could spell
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This is total nonsense, click bait...Buddy passed away in 1987, respect the man's legacy and it is socially inappropriate to speak unkindly about someone who is deceased and cannot defend themselves. Do not speak ill of the dead...!!
'Greatest' - hardly. But certainly very very great.
Show me better..have you never seen him in person? Not the same as any tapes.we see it as beyond scary
Greatest. Period
@kennyjraldrichin person u brain fried6811
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UR CONfused-Rused hesheman lover said U R THEE GREATEST SCHMUCKED-CLUCK whom waddles like A DUCK....!!
I've got about 30 of his albums and 30 CDs I wouldn't mind selling them anybody interested
What condition R the CD's in AND what R U asking in amount of USA Dollars if in new or nearso condition..?