New Pixel Fold, Tablet, and a ZenFone Too!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- Andrew was supposed to be on vacation this week so it's just Marques and David bringing you the news. They talk about TH-cam testing games in its app, the new Pixel Fold and Tablet, and even a new Zenfone! They wrap it up with a bunch of EV news before finishing it all up with trivia. It was a gadgety week!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:44 Lenovo Yogabook
09:27 TH-cam testing games
14:10 TikTok shuts down its BeReal Clone
21:02 Trivia question
22:09 Ad break
22:11 Pixel Tablet
30:38 Pixel Fold
39:13 Zenfone 10
46:13 Trivia question
46:53 Ad break
46:55 EV news and updates
01:06:47 Trivia answers
01:13:00 Outro
Links:
Trivia link: bit.ly/WVFRMTriviaForm
Mr. Mobile Lenovo Yoga Book 9i: bit.ly/MrMobileLenovoReview
Pixel Tablet review: bit.ly/MKBHDPixelTabletReview
Pixel Fold review: bit.ly/MKBHDPixelFold
Ars Technica Pixel Fold Review: bit.ly/ArsPixelFoldReview
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Google Pixel Tablet at geni.us/ByWA
Google Pixel Fold at geni.us/G4APMd
ASUS Zenfone 10 at geni.us/XpzHtl
Lenovo Yoga Book 9i 2-in-1 Laptop at howl.me/cj32Vyq68pD
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This is what I look forward to all week every week, thanks guys!
“I’m Andrew.”
- David, 2023.
same because it means the work week is coming to an end 🥳
ROFL last minute.
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@@DivyangM😊😊
“As someone who uses 2 screens all the time … I would never use this “ 😂😂😂
4:56
I lold so hard
MY Husband working for --IT consulting for --Big Four Company:” this is amazing. I need this all the time i am in meeting all day, 1 screen look at 1 sheet, 1 screen for TEAM meeting. They need to present something to look at in meeting. I work remote, this is AMAZING when i work in restaurant or TRAVEL,”😊
Genuinely love watching Marques struggle to do outro while Andrew is out
No one has the skills like Andrew
congratulations to andrew and the new family! ✨
As someone who used a convertible laptop throughout Uni, I always used tent mode (and the other modes). I used “regular” mode for typing notes. Tablet mode for reading textbooks. Tent mode when watching videos in between classes, the extra desk space I got was enough to do other things like eat lunch or write notes in my notebook. I also used the 4th mode (where the keyboard is facing the desk and the screen is close to the user) whenever I was watching something and didn’t need a keyboard, it allowed the screen to get a lot closer to me than any other laptop usually could.
Sounds like a cheap laptop and tablet would have been better
@@toptiertech7291 No.
@@toptiertech7291you wouldnt get it unless you used one for awhile, super convenient for everything. Plus moat lenovo 2 in 1s are super cheap, and it would be more expensive to get a laptop and tablet (and more space taken up(
I use the tent mode way more than the tablet mode. Mine is a little to big and heavy to use as a proper tablet, but tent mode is great to watch media in bed without having to hold anything and without cooking my stomach due to the laptop overheating because the bottom intake was blocked
@@vicpc55 yeah same. Tablet mode was definitely on the heavier side, but as a broke uni student who couldn’t afford a separate tablet, it got the job done.
David, you were super sharp today. Concise and natural. Kudos.
hahaha watching Marques struggle to do the outro bc that was always Andrew's job was a delight to watch 😂 we miss you Andrew! Also awesome job on the trivia this week
David is trying to make us really want that Yoga 9i
Googling lol
He succeeded for me
@@KHuyPh lol. Right?!?!?
I do indeed want it
I want it. Someone showed at CES ,,,my husband saw the video right way :”OMG I need that would have helped so much at work. Especially on call when out need duel screen to trouble shoot or need 2 screen to do report . “ 😮😅
Always look forward to Fridays for this!
Good call!
@@Waveform Thanks for the great content as always! 🫶🏽
Fold owner here, and I really love the Fold so far, its not perfect but its damn good. It’s a little slippery if you don’t rock a case- and my dBrand leather skin is in route to help with the grip. I find myself using it closed more to be honest, open when I need to multi-task heavier. Overall, impressed so far and looking forward to Android 14 improvements. I can’t get over the form factor and the high quality of the build, its solid but weights less than my 14 Pro Max with the case it has on it.
I own a 2 in 1 Lenovo Ideapad. the best decision I have ever made. It is a 14inch and I am an international student from Lesotho, doing my MBA in India now and have been using the laptop for over 4 years. It has and still is great for school work when in tablet mode, signing pdfs and other contracts at work on tablet mode using the stylus, take notes and type on normal laptop mode anddddddd tent mode is best for viewing videos or creating your own subtle cinema environment to watch all the movies and series out there. This is basically having a TV, Tablet and a laptop all in one. It needs an upgrade for sure because its old now buttttt I'd upgrade to a lighter and thinner but powerful 2in1 with a stylus any day anytime
I did my whole bachelors degree for compsci on a lenovo flex 😂 wasn’t even $500, best cheap laptop I’ve ever owned, thing took a beating and always booted, tent mode was sweet for television
I have a 10 year old Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13. Just upgraded the ram to its full 8gb capacity and replaced the keyboard and it's as good as new. There is no temptation to buy another one anymore. Now if only I can fix the glitchy WiFi.
Ideapads are usually disappointing because of their crappy displays (lol 250-nit brightness on a glossy screen) and questionable hinge durability. X1 Yogas are sturdier and have better displays, but also way more expensive.
@@theglowcloud2215 @theglowcloud2215 I do agree with you. The display isn't good in brightly lit environments and the plasticy build isn't great either but for the price, they're definitely worth it. If I had the capability and finance to buy the expensiviest of the lenovo laptops, MacBooks are tempting but I'd buy a high spected lenovo yoga. My dream is to buy a yoga 7i or 9i probably with a dedicated GPU but in the meantime I'll cherish this 8th gen Ideapad I have. It has been the greatest investment.
@@wilsonmpaul I'm actually saving up for an 7i or 9i Yoga but I do agree, the ram and SSD upgrade made the laptop feel vastly snapier but mine is an 8th gen and it is showing it's age now 😞
I had a Lenovo Yoga in college. I used the tent mode so extensively that I broke the hinge 3 times! It was very useful when you wanted to watch something and don't need the keyboard. Of course this is the time when one side was a keyboard+touchpad and the other was the touchscreen.
Man, even when I don't really care about the topic that much I just enjoy the format and upbeat vibe of this podcast so I listen anyway. You all do a great job
Tent mode can easily be used for paired programming where the person that you are helping with some programming stuff is sitting on the other side of and has their own keyboard and mouse and you basically take turns working on a project so that the person you are helping can learn by example and hands on instead of just watching and taking notes or something. Actually physically making the clicks and changes yourself while being taught something is way more affective than just sitting and watching. Also, way more convenient and much easier than just passing a keyboard and mouse back and forth. Less awkward in the case of the yoga setup.
Hoping for a Zenfone 10 review!
Best start to the weekend!
VW and Electrify America announced they will be supporting NACS in the future as well. Looks like CSS is truly on the way out in the US.
Andrew came in clutch this episode
this is the earliest i’ve seen the video one pop in a long time!
As a regional sales manager for a manufacturing company, tent mode is actually amazing. Why you might ask? I know i can't be the only salesmen who goes to have a meeting with someone or a group at their company building/office and there is no monitor or tv in the room we are having the meeting. If using a normal laptop and i need to do a powerpoint to the group i would have to turn the laptop away from me and face everyone who was in attendance (now i can't see screen and awkward to hit next on keyboard). If i have the Lenovo Yogabook dual screen i can put it in tent mode and give my powerpoint presentation to them while seeing my presentation or notes on my screen. I could also see it being used at some restaurants when doing a "lunch & learn" type meeting although these types of meetings were more common at the table during pandemic. I would say my use case for tent mode would be 1-2 times a month based on not having a screen to use at my meetings.
"I don't think Andrew's gonna get that one" -1 for Marques
Tent mode can be helpful for business presentations. I don't personally do it, but I've seen people in 1:1 type meetings mirror the screen in tent mode and share presentations or demo software. It's a lot nicer than both trying to view one screen and having to be awkwardly close to each other to see/read the screen. I just use a portable monitor for this though, but it's a cool product showing off some innovation from Lenovo.
bingo this is the answer
that outro had me DYIN'!!
idk why ZenFone gets compared to iPhone mini, the size of the chassis is *MUCH* closer in size to base iPhone. Look at the LxW measurements in mm:
131.5 x 64.2 - iPhone 13 mini
146.5 x 68.1 - ZenFone 9 & 10
146.7 x 71.5 - iPhone 14
And the ZenFone is thicker than iPhone, so total volume is actually 8.97 (for zf9) and 11.97 (for the zf10) cubic *centimeters* BIGGER than the iPhone14.
Still think its a really great phone, may be my favorite android phone, but I just don't understand why I'm hearing it framed this way... its a GREAT *medium*-sized medium-budget phone. But I wish the iPhone mini size phones hadn't been killed.
The thing about automakers moving to NACS is that they’ll use Telsa’s charging network, but they can also convert/build out their networks to NACS. Some states are also going to start requiring NACS.
I recently got my preordered pixel fold. The different keyboards are nice. It is smaller when folded than a pixel 6, but it weighs as much as like two of them. When you're using it as a phone, it's dense. Definitely a chonky boy. As for $, I was able to get rebates. I agree on battery life. I'm watching TH-cam and twitch videos all the time and I love it.
Question for the team: Over years of doing reviews, would you say that there are some companies (or a particular one) that seem to be following the recommendations from the MKBHD channel's phone reviews very closely almost as if they watch the videos just like us fans and then head straight to the drawing board and draw up whatever you suggest?
We need the Yogabook review Marques. 😅
Marques messing up the outro was hilarious
I regularly use my 2in1 laptop in tablet and tent mode, tablet mode is half the reason I got it, and its in tent mode more than its in laptop mode.
Tent mode helps it run cooler, and gives me more desk space when its docked, because I don't have the laptop keyboard hanging out where my mouse needs to be.
I can't believe the studio isn't interested in the yoga book 9i. I'm going to get one for school
Maybe they don't (need to) go to school?
@@PrestoJacobson of course your right. That's just my usage. But I would've thought that for guys reviewing tech who are always interested in things that push beyond traditional form factors, this would've caught their attention. Especially since it's actually a really polished product and not just a gimmick (at least from all the reviews I've seen🤷♂️)
If you’re in sales, you can use tent mode for PowerPoints if you don’t want to go through the hassle of syncing up with your customer’s projector or TV screen
Really looking forward to the #Zenfone 10 review. There are some nice and some unwanted changes. I'd love to hear your take guys
what is an example of the 'unwanted' changes?
@@wooshbait no autofocus on ultrawide and selfie cameras.
Cool! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
I use tent mode with my work laptop while it’s docked. It cleans up space on the desk for keyboard and mouse and you can use the screen.
The outro on this was amazing 😭😭
Not the same tihing as tent mode, but I own a Surface Book and being able to flip the screen and put it upside down in "tent mode" *while it was rendering something* (I bought it for blender stuff while I was in college) made it noticeably faster because there was way more surface area to cool the GPU down with. Putting a fan blowing *through* the tent was also massive in terms of sustained performance lol. That is 1000% not an advertised use case for the surface book, but it worked for me.
That laptop is slightly outdated now but I still regularly use it in "tent mode" but where I'm using it as a second monitor over wifi (It's a little laggy doing display over wifi but for having a second document open it's totally fine). It's just a much smaller footprint in that mode. I love the flexibility of that computer.
i have the fold since a couple of days and I love it. Looking forward to Android 14
Personally, I have a 2-in-1 Chromebook with a detachable keyboard, and I bought it for that exact purpose because I watch TV and TH-cam on it all the time and wanted to be able to remove the keyboard so that I can be solely focused on the content on the screen. Not "tent mode", but similar concept 😅
And before anyone asks, yes it is a Lenovo Chromebook.
For the yoga, dual user needs a peek window on the main users screen
This episode has the best outro ever!
No one can outro like Andrew 😂
I tablet mode for paperwork, anything I might have to sign or handwrite and for math. I tent mode for movies sometimes. I absolutely chose my computer in a large part because it could convert to tablet and has a pen because it's so nice to essentially never have to use my printer. Once in a blue moon I might do something art related with the capability or plan things visually in a way that's annoying if you don't have something to draw with.
so when is Asus Zenfone review coming out? I guess every youtube already has their review of this phone, I've been waiting for MKBHD's review
Tent mode is probably good if you are working with a client sitting opposite to you on a table and need to quickly share your screen.
I started using bereal only a couple of months ago, and I really only am friends with my family, and a couple of other people. I like that, where it feels more personal
I love watching/listening to you guys! Waveform makes me feel like I'm hanging out with my cool tech friends again. Brings me back to when I worked at the Apple store back in 2011. Great memories :)
i like the fact that ASUS gave option to choose stock android and i hope all android phones give the option
Thank you i only encourage this type of real videos which really works
David completely illustrated how Google screwed up on designing the tablet. Why is it sold as a bundle only and why are the speakers bricks when the tablet is not connected? Do they not want to encourage us to get multiple docks to scatter around the house. Google's home assistant/automation department really needs to evaluate their product offerings.
7:15 I have a Lenovo Yoga laptop and although it is not a feature I would rly miss if I bought a new laptop, the tent mode is a cool mode for me to either watch movies/content without having a keyboard in front (making it much more compact) or mostly to connect to an external monitor. I had a very small desk where space rly came at a premium and using it that way allowed me to use an external keyboard an mouse and have a dual monitor setup that used minimal space, smth that a normal laptop just couldnt do. Unfortunately, the hinge broke 8 months ago and now it is just a useless laptop that i cant bring with anywhere since i cant close it...
Love the POD, also there's a weird line on the camera for Adam and Ellis just fyi :)
18:43 is pretty much what i love about death stranding. Its not multiplayer, but when someone helps you finish a road, donates gear to you, or you find that rope you need to get off the cliff, I know I'm not alone. Other people are playing the game with me. It's probably the only game that i don't desire a co-op mode in
I use tent mode often. Duel screens with third small screen in tent mode for touch screen stuff (like time recording at my law firm)
I know I shouldn't buy a Zenfone 10 because I already have the 9, but I kinda want to
I've been itching to get a foldable phone for a while now, and I'm really on the fence to get the Fold 5 when that comes out or make the switch to the Pixel Fold.
7:38 i dont use it all the time in tent mode. I more bought it so i could fold it so the keyboard is basically resting on the table with the screen folded back and up right. The bottom of the laptop is facing the top
For Radioligy, a three screen version of that would be dope.
When using with a wireless keyboard and mouse and the laptop screen, you can use the laptops in tent mode. Many a times all the TH-camrs promote putting laptop on a stand and then use it with a wireless keyboard and mouse. I used an HP laptop with a docking station with two monitors but use the laptop screen as the third screen for Outlook but the laptop completely flipped on a docking stand such as the ones from Satechi
Glad Andrew overtook Marques in Trivia
I bought the macbook air 6 months ago.. but currently on my ipad pro with the Magic Keyboard just can’t seem to let the set up go!
50:50
Eyyyyy Y'all know whats up. Great videos mentioned here.
I use my laptop in tent mode when using it on planes and trains because the tray tables are usually tiny but apart from that i never do
I have a chromebook that I use to watch live TV through Hulu. I tent it to give it a smaller footprint and can set it up on narrow shelves etc. Tent has some purpose, not a lot
TBH, I've got my Lenovo Yoga 730 from a pawnshop for a $200 steal, currently $800-$999 new, and I love it! Tent mode, Tablet mode, as a regular Laptop have saved me in a pich both professionaly and personally. Most ppl think its a weird form factor or a gimmick, but I often see those same ppl carrying 3-4 devices while my Yoga can do it all all! That Yoga 9i looks ridiculously incovenient and cumbersome though.🤷🏾♂
12:19 I’m so glad I never got google domains. Stories ending kinda makes sense since you can post a short but it’s not quite the same
Loved the outro
I love 2-in-1 laptops, mine is right now. But I wouldn't want one with two screens, lol. I do actually tend to use them in its main modes (Normal, Tent, Flat, hidden-keyboard) very regularly -- it's great as a student, and great in the office when I don't want to carry my notebook AND laptop all the time. But having 2 screens means one screen is just on the table in 2 of those modes... Yikes.
For the record, Tent Mode is AWESOME for presentations, movies, and some handwriting. As someone who does presentations ALL THE TIME to coworkers and peers, this is important to me and I would never want a non-2-in-1 laptop.
I'm 55 minutes into listening to the pod and I wanted to mention that Electrify America is supposed to be offering NACS charging in the future as well.
Yeah they dropped this news after we recorded Wednesday 😅
Heyyy Ellis is back! Missed you man
Wvfrm soundtrack is legit groovy though. Love it
The best part of the day. 👌🏿.
yea 👌
I have one of those Lenovo yoga laptops. The keyboard was faulty since new and ended up buying a separate keyboard then ONLY use it in tent or the other mode where it rests on the keyboard. Now I'm so used to having it so close for touch and I have a second (larger) monitor for main things.
And I did buy it because touch, pen, AND tent mode. Just ended up using it only in those special modes because I can't type numbers/symbols and I am an online math instructor that types in LaTeX during class
Which one do u buy? 500 700 900 series. I have bought the 500 n 900 series. Both great. Really love the touch screen. The 900 series were much priced but insane quality n monitor 3K resolution. 😊
David is absolutely correct on Cybertruck pricing. Just look at the F150 Lightning, which started at $40k and quickly jumped up to a starting price of $60k due to supply chain and market conditions. EV Silverado just debuted and that was supposed to be $40k to start but the cheap work truck version is $75k, with the higher end retail version over $100k. Cybertruck will start at $60-70k and top models will be $110-130k
need another road trip video for the studio. things have changed now
Dear MKBHD, i own a yoga 9i 2022 (90hz oled) and a galaxy book pro 3 360 16 inch. both get used with my egpu for living room (coffee table), couch or in bed gaming. Ideal set up because it basically competes with something like the Asus Flow 16 mini led for less money and the benefit of not having a hot, noisy device on your lap. Theyre also lighter. Both laptops are used in 'presentation' mode (not tent--tent is too unstable/uncomfortable to be used on your la)
As much as I like the nest hub max, you're very limited in terms of what you can do for it. It's very use dependent - useful in the kitchen for timers, casting, coming etc being able to carry the screen around and have access to an app tray is so important. Thanks to the hub you get better quality sound (agreed not that much louder but how loud does it need to be?) Always charged and it just nicely presents your tablet with the great hub screensavers.
The only way tent mode would make sense to me is for presenting something to a group of people. If it would mirror both screens, so people 8 people don’t have to huddle on one side to look at something. Instead of a half circle, you could have a full circle.
But you’ll probably end up not using it for that either.
yeah i need one of these i watch youtube videos and browse youtube on a second tab all the time. or watch youtube tutorials while doing video editing or microsoft excel for homework. etc. portable dual screen with a keyboard i love it. idk the pricetag but if thes are affordable they are for media consumption and social media users. i can do tiktok scrolling while watching this video and scanning for a next yt video - especially in tall mode. i like
I think the guy to the LEFT has some Covert Narcissist weird Airy vibe. I dont trust what he says. --k i n my old ass single party days just going along with my friends’s groups. I KNOW what I’m talking about. Those type of guys think so CERTAIN from their OWN ENEDS. They have outward projection of Value. They will decide form their own view if its good/bad. It’s black n white thinking pattern.
He obviously as Anti Social as he sounds, I can’t truthfully believe “I will never buy this”.
My husband thruout the years working remote, meeting all day. Working in IT, constantly need duel screen. The entire time I was in hospital getting Chemo Therapy, he had to stay over night for support . This 2 screen would made his work 500% easier.
Yes no laptop can beat home setup. But its an DESIGN so so so so so highly needed. When ppl travel, go to diff client site, go to diff city. Working remote on vacation…..this is like god sent. 😅
Damn marques can really be savage when it comes to reviews.
Can the pixel tablet pair with the Nest hub or home mini to use those as speakers?
I use tent mode on my Lenovo. I dock the laptop to a larger monitor and use the tent mode as a usable screen without having to have the laptop keyboard sitting on my desk and taking up space. I use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. When at my desk.
So you plug your laptop into a monitor then connect a mouse and keyboard? Why not just have a desktop to keep there 😂😂
@@toptiertech7291so can you even carry your desktop to work and school?
There’s a vertical black line over Adam’s computer. Thought my OLED TV had dead pixels 😅, but looked on my iPad and the issue is still there.
Doing a shot every time David says "crumby"
great video!
Fridays start now!!
marques' steve harvey impression is pretty good ahaha
While we talk about folds, it'd be cool to every now and again get a "An update on huawei" type of video from one of your channels, since they have some kinda wild phones that are stil super popular in europe and asia but we just don't hear 'em anymore
For anyone who wants to really learn the EV charging world, NACS/CCS, EV charging etc, the 2 best channels are Kyle Connor's Out of Spec Reviews (they have several channels) and Tom Moloughney's State of Charge. They also both contribute to the Inside EVs podcast and TH-cam channel every week, which is a great source for all EV news and info
I have my laptop in tent mode under my other two monitors, it takes up less space. It’s annoying I can’t get to the fingerprint reader anymore though. My surface is on the other monitors with the clothy keyboard in my backpack does that count as a tent?
A genuine appreciation for Asus Zenfone series in two years they've nearly double the phone value interms of quality
I use tent mode all the time during our executive meeting.
Lol, this had the funniest outro 🤣🤣🤣
I forced my pixel 7 Pro to 600dpi as if it was a tablet, and i don't know how but animations ARE smoother! quite a lot too
The pixel fold has pretty decent battery life. I love it so far! Need the android 14
41:04 Why is this push for making the Zenfone look like it's a small phone? It has roughly the same size as the Samsung S23 or the normal iPhone but it has a smaller display due to bigger bezels and it's slightly heavier.... it's nothing like "an Android iPhone mini". The mini is way smaller.
Indeed, the Zenfone 9/10 are in the same size and weight category as the standard iPhone 13/14 and Samsung S23 and it's disingenuous to call it a small phone, and totally absurd to consider it anywhere close to an iPhone 13 Mini substitute. This nonsense Zenfone push as small phone needs to stop, don't get fooled by Asus' deceptive marketing.
Yeah and the fact that all the tech people are just going along with it. The Zenfone is taller than the S23 and thicker as well. So I don’t get how that’s more compact than other phones
@@toptiertech7291saying everything but choose to ignore the width.
S23 is over 70mm which immediately disqualified as a compact or whatever you call
@@fantasytky28 Saying everything but choose to ignore the 15mm difference in height, 3.9mm difference in width, 1.75mm difference in thickness, and 31g difference in weight of the Zenfone 10 compared to the iPhone 13 Mini.
Zenfone 10 is over 131.5mm in height, over 64.2mm in width, over 7.64mm in thickness, and over 141g in weight, all of which immediately disqualify it as compact or whatever you call it.
We love David’s haircut
We need a dark mode of this set. It’s so bright
When I bought my nest hub I was disappointed it was a watered down tablet. I wanted a tablet I could have docked next to my gaming rig. For me the home hub stuff is more secondary. Now I reach for my pixel tablet instead of my cell phone when at my desk.
Amazing podcast 👏 , the Google pixel fold is amazing 👏 👌