Table Tennis Forehand Topspin Tutorial

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  • How to forehand topspin in table tennis? The old forehand technique which is mostly taught in table tennis club has some problems. I will show you the Chinese techniques of the forehand loop with consistency, spin, and power.
    Why Chinese players dominate the table tennis rally with their powerful loop and counter topspin? The secret will be explained in this tutorial. By using the slow motion videos of the top Chinese players, I will analyze the techniques to perform a powerful forehand attack. You can easily apply these tips in your daily training.
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  • @elmori616
    @elmori616 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for your tips! :D I think the biggest problem for most of us is that we would love to learn chinese technique but every time we go to our local club and practice, our coach teaches us his technique, and coaches, most of the time, will tell you that you are doing weird movements.. So it´s hard to practice all of your tips some times... Thanks again and have a merry christmas! :D

  • @lgbs727
    @lgbs727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    9:45 to skip to the tutorial

    • @ktosomcosom19
      @ktosomcosom19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Spiral Moon 14:46 is all you need

    • @kuchikibyakuya7697
      @kuchikibyakuya7697 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ktosomcosom19 20:00 is best moment

  • @amberfellow7784
    @amberfellow7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't believe how good and educational coach's videos are.
    And they're even free!

  • @pursuitofcat
    @pursuitofcat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does someone choose to become a defender when there is no world champion who is a defender (not in my knowledge). Ma Long, Fan Zhendong, Jhang Zike, Timo Boll, Dmitri are all attackers.

  • @PatrickChoi
    @PatrickChoi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Who is your DADDY? lol xD

  • @davidgood840
    @davidgood840 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video!
    I would like to offer a quick English tip: I have noticed in several of these videos that you pronounce the word low incorrectly. Even though it looks like it should rhyme with cow or plough, it actually rhymes with go and throw. I don't know why. English has a long history of changing based on historical events, so now has many "exceptions to the rules".
    Thank you for making these great videos! Now it is time for me to practice your tips :)

  • @GodAllMighty-d6s
    @GodAllMighty-d6s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello EmRatThich I truly appreciate your videos and all the advices and tips you are giving. We needed someone like this on TH-cam. I would like to know how to loop kill the ball with European rubbers. As you said in the tensor video, you can't really loopkill with tenergy( i'm using both side) because the ball will go out due to a lack of spin that normally help to keep the ball on the table. In fact with tenergy when you hit powerfully there is less spin as you showed it with graphics in previous video. So considering that Chinese rubber in France aren't good quality and I keep playing with tenergy, Does the technique is the same to loop kill the ball with tenergy and with Chinese rubbers ??? And if not can you explain that technique? Thank you for your answer.

  • @mrmyshkalover
    @mrmyshkalover 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you saw a few of these videos and you have had enough coaching before you 'd know the real value of these lessons. However, if you are a veteran player 35+ and played using your own adapted way correcting chops would be a very slow and painful, somtimes very expensive way to improve. Lets not forget TT is an athletic discipline!! The coach here does't know who you are! His info is wide for everybody(any level) to grab. I think it is wise to take what you can use in a game, unless you just like to practice and look pretty:) hey nothing wrong with that(looping away from the table 5-6-10 times is very impresive!!!) But if you 'd like to improve your game check out coaches tacktical and timing videos. Most importantly don't hurt yourseves! Warm up before each practice:)) and don't argue here and criticize unless you are a high level player which you are not!!!! You wouldn't be here right??:)

  • @sshaikh3878
    @sshaikh3878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! You are too good in explaining the Chinese techniques, I thank U for all the time and efforts you put in to help us improve our game in Table Tennis.

  • @hdluktv3593
    @hdluktv3593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a difference in the loop technique when using Chinese rubbers instead of European rubbers?

  • @Loopyrad
    @Loopyrad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! I'm a beginner player. I used a very bad blade and rubbers, for 6 years. Lately I've been using Butterfly Allround with Flextra rubbers. It seems fine but i like looping game, I'm also in good shape so i can generate speed by hitting hard, however on the BH this is more difficult. After watching you'r videos, I'm thinking to change to Huricane 3 on the Fore Hand and Huricane 3 NEO on on the Back Hand, with Stiga Allround Classic. Do you think this setup is ok? Or do you have a better suggestion? Thanks! :)

    • @Loopyrad
      @Loopyrad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zubeen Bhuiyan Thank you, i will. :)

  • @jonyer1980
    @jonyer1980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really love your channel it's so didactic and entertainment as well. Keep going! Merry Christmas!

  • @mohamad_hachem
    @mohamad_hachem 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello coach my age is 18 and i have recently start playing table tennis many people are telling me it s pointless because i started at an old age . what do you think ? can you give me advice on how to improve fast ? thank you

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Moodz you can improve very fast with the right training. I remember there are a hungarian champion who began playing at the age of 30s.

  • @jwendt2003
    @jwendt2003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when I tried looping the Chinese style with evolution rubber, the shots looked lower, flatter, and faster, but my opponent said there wasn't much spin. if I use a harder sponge Chinese rubber, does that add more spin and arc on the ball?

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jim Wendt it takes time to loop powerful with spin. And you shoul use chinese rubber with this technique.

  • @CrAzzyWak
    @CrAzzyWak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'm sorry but I gave you a downvote. You speak with much confidence but what you say in the video isn't correct at all. For example, LGL doesn't use his lower body at the end of the video... just put 15:17 for example on slow motion (x0.25) and you'll see he uses his hand/shoulder to hit the ball. It is true that Ma Long doesn't use his elbow at 13:15, because he's returning top spinned balls, so he doesn't uses his elbow much. But at 13:54 (pause the video before he takes his shots) you can clearly see he uses his elbow, making it straight before each shot and using his *whole body* (unlike LGL who uses mainly his shoulder/hand) to make the shots, he straightens his hand at the elbow and flexes it as he's turning from the hip. This is different from 13:15 because at 13:15 he's returning top spins and here chopped balls, so he has to put more top spin.
    The correct way to make a topspin is to use both your hips and your elbow. It's a chain of energy. You use your whole body.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thank you for your comment. I didn't carefully analyze that situation. I'm sorry for that. You are right. I want to correct my statement as "Liu Guoliang contacts the ball very low with the fast movement / acceleration of the forearm and shoulder rotation to loop kill a low and semi-long ball". However, to do that, you should use your leg to lower your body at the right height.
      Feel free to correct me if I've made a wrong statements.

    • @CrAzzyWak
      @CrAzzyWak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you for your sincerity. I appreciate your videos and the effort that you put in them. Keep sharing your ideas!

    • @guywhodoesstuff1798
      @guywhodoesstuff1798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Generally, you can`t use as much hip movement when doing over the table loops - it is mostly ALL shoulder swing and wrist movement ( especially if you are penhold, you can have a bit more variation with the wrist).
      Far from away though of course you can put a lot more body into the swing. This is why Xu Xin struggles to do the loop kill, because he`s trying to do the same stroke as he does from far away. If you watch Ma Lin do this, he uses pretty much all arm swing ( and almost zero elbow) and is very different from how Xu Xin was trying to do it. Think of it like a backhand flick, just a lot more shoulder swing and you need to put your weight over the ball A LOT more. If you don`t put your weight over the ball, you will miss the table. You literally have to lean in.
      Again I recommend watching Ma Lin do this. He has a lot of shots like this - Try the 2011 China Super League, I`m pretty sure he`s got some good ones there.
      Hopefully this makes some sense :P
      Edit: Natrually there will be some elbow movement when hitting the ball, but it shouldn`t be used like you see at 10:28.
      The main components are your hips, legs, shoulder, abs, and wrist. As long as your loop technique doesn`t look like the infamous " chicken wing swing". If you watch the top 10 Europeans vs the top Chinese, their technique looks different. Their serve looks different, their block looks different, their loop looks different, etc.
      Fan Zhendon`s technique is massively different than any European.
      My point is, the body naturally wants to use the elbow to loop - the Chinese have disciplined themselves where they make as minimal elbow movements as possible so they can generate more force. The loop kill should be the shoulder and body uses in unison.

    • @Nabu994
      @Nabu994 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think there is a lot hip movement in that loop ! its fast and compac because hes is an expert. you can check it from the move of the legs !

    • @alexeykan7455
      @alexeykan7455 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Besides the difference between looping a chop close to the table and counter-looping or looping against block, in the video where Xu Xin is being taught how to loop a chop with low arc he makes a very simple mistake: he has a bat in neutral position starting the stroke. Liu Guoliang after all explains him that he must open the bat, that's crucial when you loop a chop close to the table

  • @channingchu3525
    @channingchu3525 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Next time please put the tutorial at the start rather than making us wait 8 minutes as the tutorial is what we are coming for. Put the questions and answers in a whole new video or at the end. Thanks

  • @kakhramon223
    @kakhramon223 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear coach Emratthick, please make some video guides for penholders, especially for backhand technique. thanks

  • @TTBrothers_
    @TTBrothers_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear EmRatThich, I am classic defender. Proportion of my game is 80% defence and 20% attack. My equipment is blade - Butterfly Defence Alpha, FH -Tackiness C 1.5 mm BH - Yinhe Neptune OX.
    Here is few of my videos
    th-cam.com/video/9r29oOaXJ1k/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/j9eoBUhnYiY/w-d-xo.html
    I never had a coach. I learned how to play with my elder brother. Please tell me how could I improove my defence, and my game at all?

  • @gemfuzion
    @gemfuzion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    +1 for "who's your daddy?" :)

  • @WhiteKnightPoet
    @WhiteKnightPoet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “What are the approximate BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES that you personally use for your OPENING FOREHAND LOOP against HEAVY BACKSPIN? And how do these same angles compare to the BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES you personally use for your FOREHAND COUNTER-LOOPS against HEAVY TOPSPIN?”

  • @ujangjakpar7726
    @ujangjakpar7726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salam Olahraga saya hoby Tennes Meja dari SD sampai SKRANG saran saran bagaimana dengan servis pemegang penhond bench

  • @jeezyman1871
    @jeezyman1871 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are using the word 'low' a lot, which is great because as you highlighted the lower body and legs is not emphasised enough at least in europe. However you mentioned in a previous video to correct your pronounciation where appropriate. Low is pronounced with an 'Oh' and not an 'ow' sound (although it is not spelt this way).
    I appreciate you taking time to interact with your commenters. Also keep with the technique videos as without the correct technique you will never be able to get the most our of any equipment!
    ps: I know you teach and favour chinese forehand but most players (at least in europe) still use german or japanese tension rubbers, I imagine the technique would differ. Can you cover this please.

    • @__8023
      @__8023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow you're racist.

  • @zazenforever4940
    @zazenforever4940 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you mean when you say Ma Long "does not rotate his elbow anymore" . What does this mean. He is also folding his elbow and snapping his forearm. Yes, he is using his body, but the arm and elbow are involved. Can you explain this further or post a video on this? It is confusing. Thanks.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh, I'm sorry. I don't mean that Ma Long doesn't rotate his elbow anymore. I want to correct it as "Ma Long uses his hip to mainly rotate and generate the force for his loop. He still uses his elbow to transfer and add power to his forehand topspin". Thank you for your comment.

    • @zazenforever4940
      @zazenforever4940 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, thank you. Can you reference a video that shows the snapping of the forearm? Obviously the body must rotate, as well. I appreciate your response.

  • @zazenforever4940
    @zazenforever4940 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another very good video, Coach. Question for you on my set up, and its application for using the Chinese hitting system you recommend. I have a Butterfly Viscaria blade, with Donic Barracuda rubber on both sides. I play a bit of an all round game, with an emphasis on attack, but I have no problem with a push or chop if needed Does this set up sound right to you?
    I will work on the weight shift you recommend as this is natural for me due to my experience in other sports. The advice to wait for the ball to get lower before hitting is good advice as I tend to rush.
    Can I ask you at the point of the video 15:43 is the coach instructing Xu Xin to use his wrist to hit the ball? That is a question I have, do you use the wrist when hitting your forehand or backhand (I can see this being more natural on the backhand, but have wondered on the forehand). Thank you!

    • @yomommapranked2427
      @yomommapranked2427 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zazen forever, i can assure u, u don't move your wrist when hitting the ball, but you rather make your wrist locked in a position (don't hold it tight, but loosely without losing the grip of the bat) to straighten the bat.

  • @timcable
    @timcable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the coach saying to brush "Open to Closed" or "Closed to Open"? I'm thinking he is telling Xu Xin to brush "Open to Closed". Meaning to slightly roll the paddle forward over the top of the ball when brushing, instead of brushing only steeply upwards.

  • @rafaellava4182
    @rafaellava4182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you help me have my first custom racket 'cause I just started few years ago. I am an offensive player and I need advices.
    here's what I am thinking of the parts
    blade - friendship 729 8030
    forehand rubber - dhs neo h3
    backhand rubber - friendship 729 focus 3 snipe
    can you give me suggestions?

  • @nuridemir5613
    @nuridemir5613 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in this video you said we must stroke when the ball lower but previous video you said we must stroke when the ball at top. So which one is true

  • @jupiterisaturnus8108
    @jupiterisaturnus8108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Emrattich!
    I'm an offensive player who likes to execute a powerful topspin on backspin receive on the third ball, but I often bend my back backwards because it feels as if the ball is really heavy and the ball kind of pushes me away from my position. Therefore, my third ball forehand topspin attacks are extremely slow but extremely spinny, that's something I don't prefer to happen while it's easy for the opponent to counter attack it back without any exertion. How can I make my topspin go faster with ballanced spin? Thank you if you read this and if you can comment

  • @ishanshukla16
    @ishanshukla16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am an amateur player who likes to grow aggressive.. which blade I should buy.. I’m from India

  • @derNlShGott
    @derNlShGott 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi EmRatThich, can you please make a video about how to hold your racket properly? I have a very forehand oriented grip. In fact, I grap the racket like I would shake a hand and then I rotate it (close the racket) for a good ~15 degrees I would guess. By that I have to always change the grip when switching from forehand to backhand but when I use a neutral grip, it feels like my racket is too wide open for a forehand loop and I am more pushing the ball. Maybe it is my technique and I am hitting the ball too high? I am tall (6feet 23) compared to chinese players, maybe this is the problem. Do you have any tips? And can you make a video how chinese players hold their rackets and whether they change grip or not? Whish you a merry xmas and keep the good job going!

  • @derNlShGott
    @derNlShGott 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi coach, what I noticed when watching ma long or fan zhendong playing top spin, their feet are parralel or even the right food is slightly in front of the other foot. European players tend to have their fright foot (if right handed player) way behind the left foot when playing forehand topspin. Can you give reasons for that or am I wrong with my observation? Greetings from Germany

    • @gerokatseros
      @gerokatseros 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My coach told me that most top players now don't put their right foot behind because balls are too fast and there is no time for it . So just turn your waist is enough. Of course if the game is slower, then you should put your right foot behind as long as you have the time to do it. My coach used to be a player in my country's national team so I trust his opinion

  • @yashunath6581
    @yashunath6581 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for explaining Chinese Techniques. After following the technique in the video, i can say for sure my recovery time is better. Earlier I was always worried about spin in opponent topspin and what angle I should return the ball. But now mostly with same angle i can able to play most of the shots. Highly Appreciate.

  • @mahyarV13
    @mahyarV13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    its a pity that most TT coaches even do not have the least knowledge about rubbers and blades!so the players should have trial and error to get the most proper ones!they need to investigate by themselves on the network to search websites which give the information!

  • @marcelolima70
    @marcelolima70 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merry Christmas for you to EmRatThich! ^^
    Excellent video, explain me a loot about my mistakes when i'm looping the ball.. Thank you! ^^

  • @zazenforever4940
    @zazenforever4940 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And in the examples of Ma Long, he is clearly folding his elbow on the follow through. So, perhaps, as I mentioned before, a further explanation of what the role of the elbow does during the swing would be great!

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      more movement= more power to generate spin/speed and almost always means losing accuracy and consistency. Just like underhand free throw in basketball is likely to be the most accurate ft because it uses less muscles coordination.

  • @yantos.324
    @yantos.324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mantab mkasih smoga slalu sehat & semakin sukses 💪💪💪

  • @gabri3l875
    @gabri3l875 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your amazing videos, they're full of knowledge and coolness xD
    I Wish you a very very good Christmas with your family (stolen haha) !
    Thank You
    -Gabriel

  • @kakolibasu1328
    @kakolibasu1328 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    do u have tips with first ball kills i miss easy balls dont know why please help me!!!!!!!

  • @guerrerorojas5348
    @guerrerorojas5348 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you a merry cristmash and thanks for sharing you knowledge.

  • @johtodev
    @johtodev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think harimoto zlc would decent for looping?

  • @phamster18
    @phamster18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good work on your videos.. keep up the great work !

  • @GhOnAu
    @GhOnAu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am just wondering why we think Chinese players have better technique than European player. I assume Chinese have lots of player to choose from and that is the reason they are dominating this sport. if you look at Swedish player for example they are from a country with much less population and obviously less competitive players but still they can compete with Chinese. to cut it short, TT is very popular game in China and there are lots of top player in China that is why they look like they have better technique, if you look back a few years ago most of Chinese player they would be playing Pen-Hold grip and during last a couple of years they adopted European style, Shakehand grip, backhand dominant style and so on.

    • @__8023
      @__8023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no, it's because we're just more skilled. the swedish stick to their fish, we stick to our tables.

  • @АндрейХуди-с2х
    @АндрейХуди-с2х 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо вам от оленевода,всю жизнь неправильно играл

  • @sharisselarajala3188
    @sharisselarajala3188 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these aseom fang bo alc fh tenergy 05fx and fx80

  • @mathematechxblackboard1942
    @mathematechxblackboard1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In your other videos, you mentioned the difference between a chinese sticky rubbers and european rubbers. Now, since there i difference between the chinese forehand loop and european forehand loop, does that mean that to learn chinese technique,one should use chinese rubbers and not european rubbers?Very few videos talk about what rubber to use when doing a chinese stroke. I think they should mention it.

  • @roberthofmann2723
    @roberthofmann2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super GREAT and cool video ;-)!

  • @dramapingpong4278
    @dramapingpong4278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    لماذا الفيديو غير مترجم للغة العربية؟

  • @bijandavis4516
    @bijandavis4516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you guys think of this setup:
    Blade=victas zx gear in
    FH=Hurricane neo 3
    BH=Tenergy05 hard
    I'm trying to go for a hard rubber on soft blade

  • @felixchrissandy3763
    @felixchrissandy3763 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Emratthich . I'm a loop kill player with chinese rubber. My current set up is Dr Neubauer World Champion with Yinhe Big Dipper on FH. It's so fast to me . The ball coming out from the table . Can you recomend best choice chinese tacky rubber for my forehand ? Thx and sorry for bad English

  • @ГлебПолищук-с8о
    @ГлебПолищук-с8о 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma Long relax arm when loop. Use body and legs for acceleration. Very difficult technique. It is for professional player. If you understand the technique, then you can learn.You can not lose a single detail. Pay attention to the shoulder and wrist. This forehand technique allows you to very quickly perform a powerful top spin.

  • @valueless11
    @valueless11 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi EmRatThich, i admire your videos very much. I want your suggestion on my alternate blade. I use DHS Hurricane H-WL with DHS hurricane 3 neo in forehand and 729 Battle 2 in backhand. this combination works just well for me. now i want a spare blade but H-WL is not available. Can you suggest me which blade matches with the characteristics of H-WL most? I am thinking of DHS PG13, Yinhe T-11+, PG7,PG9, GT9, YINHE T-10 etc. But dont know which is more similar to H-WL with speed, weight, hardness and feeling....Can you please help me in sort this out...??

  • @siddhisingh2086
    @siddhisingh2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know how to do loop so please make a video that consantrate on the loop

  • @The_Paddle_Smith
    @The_Paddle_Smith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused. Your videos mention we should be using harder tackier rubber even for the backhand but I see in your video comments 7:45 that you have suggested Rakza 7 (which is soft rubber) for someone. Can you please clarify?

  • @aaronsebastian9223
    @aaronsebastian9223 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hye emrathich,i use tibhar tacky power for my FH and i use 729 friendship sky wing for my backhand and my blade si 729 friendship super carbon. I cant spin my ball because the ball fly off my rubber too fast and i cant control the ball. By any chance, can you recommend me a good rubber for my fast blade? Thank you.

  • @lollel9096
    @lollel9096 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    U are a much more better coach than mine in school... I improve with ur tips, not his... And another good national player from Philippines i think?? Hes here but he is always training the seniors not us... Ugh
    Can someone recommended me a good offensive rubber for penhold?

  • @eloimumford5247
    @eloimumford5247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am senior and play at city club : most just want to have good times but no practice . Some will give advices , long talking ....., but the best is imitation : no talk / Practice ! I always try to remember and practice EmRat tips even the points are counting ...who cares for the points if there is no progress ...mentally i dont care for the points . Is that right Coach ?

  • @vx1000biatch
    @vx1000biatch 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi my playing style looping and all around I have 2 blades 1st one is stiga infinity vps weight is 90g and stiga rosewood xo. I'm currently using my infinity vps and loved it's good control. Can the stiga rosewood xo replace my infinity vps in terms of looping all around game and also on the speed since rw xo is stiffer?

    • @vx1000biatch
      @vx1000biatch 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also one more thing I'm currently using Chinese rubbers since I've got used to it. I want to sell one of my blades to purchase better rubbers like tg3 neo on the fh and rakza 7 for the bh.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +vx1000biatch rosewood is faster and stiffer. Vps is better for all round loop style

  • @zazenforever4940
    @zazenforever4940 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you could clarify, please. To me, in the example starting at 12:51 the coach appears to be still rotating around his elbow on the follow through. Yes, he is making a weight transfer as he starts his swing, but he points at the inside of his elbow, and folds it on the way through. I guess I need clarification on what "rotating around the elbow " means. Also, does the coach start out his swing with a fairly open face angle (paddle is almost vertical at the start and at impact), and then he appears to close the angle as he follows through (by rotating his forearm). Is this accurate? Thanks.

  • @TischtennistrainingberlinDe1
    @TischtennistrainingberlinDe1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Video, very well explained and i'm get a good idea to increase power and speed, but you show in your videos very old european technics. I'm teaching the kids use body and that's what in germany have to teach. However, there are scientific studies in europe , that the forarm, ellbow and wrist made 75% of the speed (they measured it). But i tried your way with a fixed ellbow and power and spin from the hip and i am totally convinced with your method. Feel better and more stable for me. Thanks for that and hope you show more from chinese technics.

  • @DJ-tf4wd
    @DJ-tf4wd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and tips, thank you!

  • @kevintiago4032
    @kevintiago4032 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Howdy coach. I am an amateur penholder and currently practicing my RPB. What is the best rubber to my playstyle and blade? I want to be an all around player with stable attack power, FH and BH, as well increase my blocking. Is this possible? So what is the best set up for me as I am aiming to be the best amatuer player. Thank you.

  • @abrarahmed357
    @abrarahmed357 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi coach emt you are doing a good job in your videos I am an offensive attacking player but somehow I cannot smash on backhand chops which is my weakness also I have a premade bat of mark v and I am thinking of upgrading to a custom bat I also think that I need more spin on my serves I was thinking of tenergy 80 on backhand but what forehand rubber and wood should I use I also have a short height thanks please reply it will really help me

  • @rjanaksundhar9091
    @rjanaksundhar9091 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing again after a gap and noticed that my FH topspin and FH loop, both are going out of the table. While trying to analyze my strokes, I feel either there is more speed/force generated which is putting the ball off the table or cud be something which I may not be aware. If u cud give any guidance/tips, wud be helpful. Also my FH is quiet strong, any suggestions for good racket paddle and rubbers for FH & BH. Wud like to have good spin & control. Thanks.

  • @ramishwafa4532
    @ramishwafa4532 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi coach! Can you suggest a setup for me. I live in pakistan and dont get genuine rubbers (according to me). I like to attack on the forehand when possible and chop during most of the rally but against topspin i use blocks more. and against a flawed chop i tend to attack.
    I am currently using
    yinhe n5
    with
    sanwei taregt FH
    and rakza 7 soft BH
    Looking forward to your reply as i am in dire need of changing my setup.

  • @dannysedgwick6119
    @dannysedgwick6119 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi emrat table tennis coach my name is danny i am 13 years old and i play in division 6 of my local league i am using butterfly bryse both FH and BF i like it on my BH but i dontl like it on my FH any good FH rubber suggests

  • @rafefleming
    @rafefleming 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain the technique for a backhand drive, block? My coach says I bend my wrist backwards to much

  • @Xexyks
    @Xexyks 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello just wanted to ask, when looping the ball you should contact the ball at your side. But what about counter topspin ? When i see zhang jike, he contacts the ball a bit infront of his body. So should i when playing counter topspin contact the ball on my side too?

  • @alexeykan7455
    @alexeykan7455 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first advice to the defender doesn't correspond to reality. Amateur courts are too short for playing at the third zone, you can notice that the def has less than a meter behind his back, he tries to keep the distance instinctively so that to have a room for stepping back in case of forcing an opponent's attack

  • @venezs
    @venezs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sie sie Coach .. I'm use Yasaka Mark V AD 2.2 mm for both side with yu guan frame since you explain the power from the ground and this video my loop better now .

  • @benyus44
    @benyus44 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought dhs g888 rubber and dhs hurricane 2 rubber
    which one should I use for forehand and which one should I use for backhand?

  • @Khrylezon
    @Khrylezon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good day EmRatThich!
    I watched all your table tennis video and I improved significantly within just weeks of training. However, I just want to improve more my looping.
    How can I loop kill a very low top spin and under spin ball?
    Can I loop kill a slow off the table ball with no spin?
    Can I do that with this set up?
    Blade: Yinhe T10+ Balsa Carbon
    FH: H3neo
    BH: TG2neo
    Which should I use between the two for looping?

  • @tommymorgan9624
    @tommymorgan9624 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for the tutorial! I would like to help you with your English if I may..."Low" ... is pronounced "ˈlō" Thanks Again!

  • @mms5337
    @mms5337 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video thank You :)
    Can You make a Video About Some exercises on multi Ball or something (especially for footwork and of course improving technice )?
    Happy Christmas 🎄

  • @RebootingFelicities
    @RebootingFelicities 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video like the others.I want to use hurricane 8 on my forehand what is the best blade that suits it.Have a great Christmas

  • @gadingyr4755
    @gadingyr4755 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    orang sukolilo bukan ya .itu foto profilnya aku kenal

  • @Kwonghun
    @Kwonghun 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey EmRatThich! :)
    I know that the style is not very common among pro players but would you consider giving tips for traditional chinese penholders/ japanese penholders like Ryu Seung Min or Kaii Yoshida? :)

  • @singhVarunVikram
    @singhVarunVikram 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you say -- Look at the player xyz it is sometimes helpful to point who which one of the players is the said player though usually it is the one closer to the camera but is not always the case.

  • @mav_eric_k2
    @mav_eric_k2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Lowryyy approves

  • @meoward6521
    @meoward6521 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! , i started playing for about a year ago and lately ive gotten into a tournament but, im vert nervous that i cant play like usual. do you have any tips for this kind of problem? thanks.

  • @garaasensi3330
    @garaasensi3330 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to choose the right blade for my rubber i really don't have much knowledge about buying the right equipment for me

  • @CAPITANCARAJOTE
    @CAPITANCARAJOTE 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. Congratulations for your video. I understand the differents loop much better. I would like to ask you how you do if the ball is coming high?
    thanks for your attention and help
    Juan

  • @Uniformbogen
    @Uniformbogen 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx for the video and keep it up you are helping me or us a lot :)
    And I've got a question.
    I have the tendency to hit the ball really late and let it drop to low.
    That results that i loose power and consistency in my loops.
    Besides my error rate is much higher.
    However because of this i adjust my bodyposition so my body moves down so i can still hit it.
    The loop gets really spinny when i do this but i know that my technique suffers under this circumstance.

  • @aswathyn7300
    @aswathyn7300 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi coach I am Naresh I am favorite to attack in forehand but some days I cannot hit the ball I know the reason I grown up and I need to hit What can I do sir you give me tip

  • @MrVikram729
    @MrVikram729 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Sir,
    I have been watching your videos for few days and its really amazing, it gives me confidence on my game by watching your videos.. I just need your help to suggest me a good equipment for my game
    1) I'm good at forehand topspin but since I'm using basic GKI KUNGFU rubber I feel difficult all the time.. My seniors suggest me to use TENERGY RUBBER
    2) I used to chop well in backhand, and sometimes I play a descent looping too..
    So can I use
    TIMOBALL ALC-FL BLADE
    TENERGY FOR FOREHAND
    can you suggest anything for backhand which gives 60% defense & 40% spin Sir. Please

    • @sagara6742
      @sagara6742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      U can try sonex jp

  • @desert1987
    @desert1987 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. I am a forehand dominant player and around 60% of my loop kills make it . i am quite consistent with my looping. However, my backhand is trash. i only use it to make short pushes or counter hit. I use Dhs hurricane 3 neo for my forehand and Ritc 563 short pimples for my backhand. I use Yin he galaxy w 4 as my blade. Any recommendations/ tips?

    • @lips271
      @lips271 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Practice taking the ball at the top of the bounce with the short pimples and killing the ball by hitting it forward! Short pimples are very good for annoying blocks and hitting the ball at the top of the bounce, so you require very good timing with short pimples. I suggest if you haven't learned how to play backhand before, you should try out "normal" rubber on your backhand as it is easier to start with. You can move to short pimples once you get the timing in with your backhand etc. A good practice can be, short service and a long push in your backhand, where you try to "loop"kill the ball or just get it over the net with safety.

    • @desert1987
      @desert1987 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      m

    • @desert1987
      @desert1987 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lips271 thanks man

    • @lips271
      @lips271 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries, if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask me at muppis99@gmail.com

    • @pnachtwey
      @pnachtwey 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      563 are medium pips but you are right about hitting through the ball. Hitting at the top of the bounce depends on whether you are going for a flat hit kill or not. The problem with the general rules of hitting at the top of the bounce is that the bounce on the other side will be high too. Hit the ball when it bounces just high enough so you can hit it flat and still clear the net to keep your return low. Another problem is blocking fast loops. You must have "soft hands" to absorb some of the energy otherwise the ball will bounce off your blade uncontrollably. Practice blocking short. I have never considered medium pips to be offensive. Mostly you are just getting the ball back and waiting for the opponent to give you a ball that you can attack with your FH or twiddle. Do you twiddle? If not why not? It will confuse you opponents when you attack with an inverted fast top spin from your Bh..

  • @Geekminecrafter
    @Geekminecrafter 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow i figured this move on my own thinking it was wrong. only difference is that i dont bend at all.

  • @martinguillersicsiciii173
    @martinguillersicsiciii173 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir i have one question.. my set up blade was pg7 for forehand i used tg3 neo for backhand donic bluefire m3. is this set up ok?

  • @bat-orshikhorgil9445
    @bat-orshikhorgil9445 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I cannot looping and topspin when the player chopping. I am using Xiom vega tour blade with both side tenergy 05 2.1. Should i change my equipment? I didn't go to training it means i have no teacher. But i really love playing table tennis. Now i'm 26 years old so maybe it's too late to go table tennis training but i need to know how to play. Anyway thank you so much for the videos i learnt many things from you.

    • @louqu1164
      @louqu1164 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not a coach but don't have much problem playing with chopper with loop. There are a few things I think can help. First, you can practice using hip to transfer weight from forehand side to backhand side. Second, footwork should put your body at the right position and allow your full arm to swing. Third, lower your racquet and relax the wrist. As the ball comes and bounces off your court, you can feel how much bottom spin on the ball, depending on amount of spin you can hold the racquet slightly open, use your index finger (if you use handshake) to micro adjust your racquet assuming you hold your racquet straight as an extension to your forearm (some people hold theirs perpendicular to the forearm, the index finger can't help much in this case). If the ball has more bottom spin, swing your arm more upward motion than forward motion. Contact the ball when it starts to fall will yield best accuracy, but if you let the ball drop a little, it will lose some spin. I prefer to let it drop a little so I can predict the amount of spin better. Combine all the actions from legs, hip, shoulder, elbow and the wrist can make a very strong swing of your racquet creating top spin to the ball. I think your equipment should be fine, it's the technique that really matters. I use Hurricane Neo III rubber on Palio energy 3, more tacky rubber than yours and less speed than your blade, I really enjoy looping.
      Take a look at some matches between DingNing vs Wu Yang or Ma Long vs Joo Se Hyuk.

  • @amarjyotiroychowdhury3307
    @amarjyotiroychowdhury3307 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I have slight pain just above the elbow after playing forehand topspin?

  • @facilitymanager5923
    @facilitymanager5923 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should i Do wieght transfer in backhand stroke

  • @lindleycabaron1071
    @lindleycabaron1071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for showing a very effective technique my forehand loop is very unstoppable when I played with my classmates and merry christmas

  • @jwendt2003
    @jwendt2003 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 questions about the video of coach Liu: What is he showing the other player about opening his racquet? Is he showing him not to do that on his loop, or is he correcting his mistake? Also, I was told to loop the underspin ball at the top of the bounce. You are saying it's better to let it drop? Is that what Liu is doing in this video? Thanks for all your videos!

    • @drgaurav75
      @drgaurav75 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi i was about to post my observation in this regard when i saw your post. LGL first takes a wide step to his left side and then plays an inside out topspin to Xu Xin fh. As the 3 rd ball is with underspin, he pivots to generate power from the hips and then uses the open blade to counter the underspin in the ball for completing the topspin. When LGL attacks Xu Xin bh, his racket angle is closed.Hope this helps.

    • @jwendt2003
      @jwendt2003 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gaurav Sharma when LG loops into his bh, his blade ends up closed, but I'm thinking he starts off with it open. I tried some shots like that at our club tonight and was able to loop some low fast . shots that felt awesome, if I did it right. it felt like grabbing the ball underneath and then throwing it forward while closing the blade over the ball. when lg is moving xi wrist and blade, it looks like he's showing him the same open and close wrap around thing.

    • @drgaurav75
      @drgaurav75 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you are absolutely right. It is like a fast flip which is loaded with topspin( due to the tacky rubber which has been boosted for CNT)

    • @LiemNguyen-ve5eg
      @LiemNguyen-ve5eg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That what I learned too; it works nicely with very low, pretty heavy underspin. The rubbers don't need to be very tacky. For I tried with H3 Neo and Friendship Aurora. Friendship Aurora is slightly tacky, and I needed to open more.

  • @lukass.3160
    @lukass.3160 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a difference between looping against backspin and topspin?

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    herro :>

  • @facilitymanager5923
    @facilitymanager5923 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coach i am felling to come at your home and give you lots of gifts because you give us such great tt videos for free

  • @facilitymanager5923
    @facilitymanager5923 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What should be position of elbow in backhand and forehand

  • @minemoul2136
    @minemoul2136 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man ;)
    what do u think about 729 super fx for penhold forehand for begginer?

  • @ayushverekar4658
    @ayushverekar4658 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can you please give me a good racquet because my parents dont allow me to buy one for me please im very fond of tabletennis so plz send me

  • @paulraymond6190
    @paulraymond6190 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what rubbers are best for looping?....pls answer

  • @__8023
    @__8023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wing wing, herro?