Maternal Negativity & the Archetypal Death Mother: Exploring evolutionary & psychodynamic approaches

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  • @caracalutu4527
    @caracalutu4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found that really valuable. Your conversation brought up lots of thoughts about me and my parenting that I hadn't considered before. Thank you.

    • @DanielaSieffPhD
      @DanielaSieffPhD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much for your comment and feedback. I'm glad you found it valuable.

  • @umchinagirard1800
    @umchinagirard1800 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is excellent thank you. Would have liked more discussion of Medusa and marion woodman experience of the death mother at about 35 minutes… felt like the derailment of focus by him onto in uter o uterous in body pre birth cortisol focus totally derailed the most important part about the death mother collective conscious? Thank you both brilliant for a severely family scapegoat Ed female daughter of a death 💀 violent nurse 👩‍⚕️ manager mother

  • @juliecoren2289
    @juliecoren2289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you - this is such powerful and important work you are doing.

    • @DanielaSieffPhD
      @DanielaSieffPhD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for commenting - much appreciated.

  • @dwood7896
    @dwood7896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really interesting conversation - thanks.

    • @DanielaSieffPhD
      @DanielaSieffPhD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Glad you found it interesting.

  • @umchinagirard1800
    @umchinagirard1800 ปีที่แล้ว

    qualities of islandness among the Tao and other islander are similar.
    1. Independence: small boats and social circles demand it if a personality is to sur- vive.
    2. Loyalty: ultimate mutual care and generosity even between ostensible enemies. 100
    3. A strong sense of honor easily betrayed.
    4. Polydextrous and multifaceted competence or what islanders call “handiness.”
    5. A belligerent sense of competition interlaced with vigilant cooperation.
    6. Traditional frugality with bursts of spectacular exception.
    7. Earthy common sense.
    8. Opinionated machismo in both the male and female mode.
    9. Live-and-let-live tolerance of eccentricity.
    10. Fragile discretion within a welter of gossip.
    11. Highly individualized blend of spirituality and superstition.
    12. A complex oral tradition, with long memories fueled by a mix of responsible
    record keeping and nostalgia.
    13. A canny literacy and intelligence.
    (Putz 1984, 26)
    Putz (ibid.) uses “aquarium” as the metaphor of inhabited islands associated with ecological systems and natural resources. Putz a
    However, I'm not too surprised that such an effect exists: it is very much part of adult social dynamics, and is clearly a major part of children's social dynamics (in that children use it a lot amongst themselves). Why it should be so widespread is an interesting question, though some of it may relate to the importance of laughter in social bonding and how we create laughter events [in this case, by creating a scapegoat]. Jokes [in the stand-up comedy sense] often have this structure: what an idiot for saying/doing this.
    R.I.M. Dunbar MA PhD DSc(Hon) FRAI FBA
    Emeritus Fellow, Magdalen College
    Professor of Evolutionary Psychology
    Department of Experimental Psychology
    University of Oxford
    New Radcliffe Building
    Radcliffe Observatory Quarter
    Oxford OX2 6GG
    United Kingdom

  • @umchinagirard1800
    @umchinagirard1800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In south Australia we have had 3 mothers kill daughters and it’s death mother behaviour… or family scapegoating behaviour patterns… police have launched a huge investigation… Charges have been laid over the deaths of three South Australian children - aged between six and 15 - after an "unprecedented" investigation into alleged child neglect.
    Three parents were charged today with manslaughter relating to the deaths of three different children after a task force was established in July last year to investigate the death of Charlie Nowland.
    The six-year-old was found unresponsive in a home in Munno Para and later died in hospita

  • @umchinagirard1800
    @umchinagirard1800 ปีที่แล้ว

    In THE ONES WHO LEAVE OMELAS by URSULA… the torture of a scapegoat daughter… is a lovely deliscious death mother, maltreatment, healing, experience for the whole village… the scapegoat daughter from kangaroo island suffered a long painful ostracism and death , book Scapegoat by Ava Keyes and the book mobbing daughters

  • @umchinagirard1800
    @umchinagirard1800 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My mother had blissful childhood and beautiful looks… her scapegoating abuse death 💀 mother behaviour came from entitlement and extremely spoilt by everyone around her… she had no needs… her choice was to abuse one scapegoat child as it was fun for her and perhaps at times created a mild kind of sexual cohesion between mum and dad … dad adored narcissistic mom and provided her well and still does… these upper class areas are filled with huge island community and bill village supports and sometimes like the human just wants to. Abuse one daughter for fun and giggles 🤭