You did the Officer Nagant dirty. It's biggest strength comes in the specific zoom you get when aiming with it. I think it's got one of the most conventional zooms that adheres to average shooter games, like your muscle memory from past gaming experiences just kicks in for it, I can't get headclicks with anything else as reliably as Nagant Officer.
I hear you man! Glad it works for you, but that is all very subjective. I still think objectively it’s pretty weak, considering you have to 3 tap people outside of very short distances. Keep rocking with it though man!
After watching this I will politely disagree with you. I feel that you are scared of the versatility of those cheap springfields, so quickly skipped over and tossed away to C tier
I don't know when this video was recorded but the Vetterli Cyclone price got reduced a couple of patches ago to around 300 now, making it much more affordable
My current favs are Mosin Obrez Mace w/spitzer and Drilling hatchet. Both kinds of melle damage deal with anything on the map in one shot and it frees up a tool slot which to me is big. Great video! Love your perspectives!
Drilling hatchet with bleed is pretty dang elite can't even lie. Love the Obrez too. Smart to free up the tool slot too. Appreciate the feedback and support man!
Some (hopefully) constructive criticism. Granted I'm only a fourth through the video... So if you make proper amendments, my apologies. You desperately need to set some sort of baseline if you're going to do something like a tier list. For example, you rate the haymaker S tier despite being quite literally a pocket Romero shorty (iirc.) Yet, at the same time, rate the base Romero lower. This doesn't make any sense. I guess my best criticism would be to set a baseline for if you're rating for strictly "feel of the gun, with/without traits, pure *shotgun* (referring to the first portion in this example) aspect, or the weapon as a whole/utility of the weapon itself." For example, some questions I would establish off the bat would be; "Am I including all weapons as a whole package, or just this specific aspect? (E.g. lemat's shotgun, not weapon as a whole) "Am I including traits compensating for shortcomings, increasing viability?" "Am I taking into account the 'slot cost' of these weapons?" This helps to solidify picks and gives a much-so needed sense of reasoning, or standard to your list. It kind of ruins the point of the tier list, for me atleast, if you have no baseline and a mish-mash of some weapons being counted as a whole, and some being only counted as their actual categorical attributes.
Dude I appreciate this response. Super thoughtful and helpful. While I do talk a lot about why I’m prioritizing some things over others (I.e. shorty variants over regular because of not needing quartermaster, or medium/long ammo over compact, silent over non-silent, etc.) these are general sentiment, sometimes fluctuate, and I didn’t do a good job of explaining it up front. For next time, I’m taking all the feedback into consideration and I will be more upfront and clear about my stipulations, as much as I can be. Some of it is fluid because it’s also just purely subjective and my opinion but I will for sure take this into consideration and try and improve that aspect. Thanks for watching and I do really appreciate the feedback man!
I hear you man! Totally fair. I do love that gun. Probably should have had the others a bit lower but not sure I would put the Match higher than high B personally.
Dude…I completely forgot about the Maynard. Mb. I think I’d go with a solid B. Good overall option but it does have drawbacks (medium ammo, single shot, no variants, etc.) I think it slots in nicely above some of the weaker rifles but definitely below A rank and better long ammo options. Where would you put it?
Favorite gun has been the Cyclone lately, I usually play duos as a solo or with a friend so it does the job with 4 rounds and two-tapping to the body. Also, in my opinion bornheim match should go above 1-slot bornheim for its 2-tap ability due to its higher damage. Feels like a medium Cyclone with more bullets sometimes. And after watching your tier list I have to say I agree with your picks a lot more than Khalamity's... Not taking into account the tactical advantage of suppressors because of slightly worse stats got me goin 🤨
@@Ehmri Not proud of it, but I ran Cyclone with Auto 5 through Gunslinger a bunch through the event and it was constant, blissful spamming at long + close ranges
Fun to see these videos. But oh boy your tiers were odd in inconsistency aspects. First haymaker is the god of versatility and then lemat and lemat carbine are not? Then for an example having Officers and Conversion pistol in C to F tier, while having Bornheim and Pax in B is just yikes. Argumenting that Bornheim is fast firing and Pax is hard hitting is weird while Officers and Conversions are really comparable. Arguably the Bornheims are one of the worst weapons in the game, except the silencer which has some utility. I know, I know it's mostly opinion based, but I was talking about the reasonings for the tiers. 😁
Hahaha dude totally fair! I said it in the video, these lists are weird and inconsistent. Just how my brain works. 😅 I think my reasoning for all the things you listed are 1) I just don’t like the Lemat’s/Conversion/etc. (purely subjective) and 2) I always prioritize harder hitting ammo and rate of fire, which is why I consider the Pax over the conversion, etc.
All good. Just liking things over other things is completely fine. What comes down to Pax is that it is not really harder hitting nor having significanr enough rof. Though medium is better ammo type, but not in this case harder hitting in terms of health bars. But mostly the Bornheims ticked me off 😅
Statistically it’s not much better for sure but there will be definitely be moments, especially outside of effective range, where Pax comes in clutch. Higher damage, even if only a few points, does play a big role in Hunt. That’s what I mean by “harder hitting.” But I hear you man. Appreciate the feedback. I was probably too high on Bornheim in retrospect but I’m just an enjoyer what can I say…especially dual wielding those bad boys haha
Paxes medium ammo having better range is excellent point that I didn't understand to take into account. I'm just those annoying ppl who like to nitpick. And because of that 😅 I disagree on the miniscual difference in damage plays a big role. Because it doesn't go over the health bar limitsnof 25. I'm sorry, I'll end this now. Keep up the good work.
For sure. I realize this in hindsight. I guess the wiki wasn't as up to date as I had hoped. I'll definitely be doing another of these in the future when a few more weapons have been added and that time I'll just have the game open so I can reference that way!
Dude…I completely forgot about the Maynard. Mb. I think I’d go with a solid B. Good overall option but it does have drawbacks (medium ammo, single shot, no variants, etc.) I think it slots in nicely above some of the weaker rifles but definitely below A rank and better long ammo options. Where would you put it?
Frontiee 73c C tier? That gun in the right hands is a beast. Cheap, accurate, strong enough to 1 shot, longish range…C tier…this is bs. I killed so many krag/dolch aholes with this gun, is my no1 go for most of the 6tier lobbies…
Respect bro! I could never really get the hang of it. I think I explained in the video that it’s a great head-clicker (maybe I didn’t explain) but it is still a worse option than other rifles overall mainly because of the compact ammo. But you’re right, because of cost I could probably justify it being B tier but that’s probably as high as I would go.
Terminus in F Tier hahahahahahahahahahaha, this 3* is killing me 😂 A 238$ shotgun, that has a 7 shot clip that fires faster than the Auto-5 *(w levering) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lmao I cannot get the terminus to work for me. I was being a bit hyperbolic putting in in F tier but still haha. But also, if you’re saying it requires a trait to be good that's gonna bring it down a bit. Gotta consider everything my man! 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ehmri omg, u r not a real person 🙆🏻♂️ Now that ive seen your opinions ans views on weapons, answers the question for me, how people are able to b in 1 & 2 *
😂 to each their own my friend. Not that it really matters for this discussion but I have been playing since day 1 and I’m a 6* on this account as well as my main account with a cumulative K/D over 2.0. I just don’t like the weapons you do. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ehmri First of all, you arguing against your own Logic, from a in game economical standpoint for example. And 2nd, grats for being a 6* (which i highliy doubt wo an actual recent Screenshot btw) Playing since october 12th, between 5&6*
How would that be arguing against my own logic? The Romero is $300 cheaper that’s what I’m saying. And I was talking about pure shotguns. You may have missed that point in the video but that’s what I was saying.
@nonking7978 Definitely a solid option, especially starting out. Problem is it's rarely picked in high tier lobbies (all long ammo) unless you can click heads, which most people can't. I'm grading it against other options, not against itself or how good someone can be with it.
bruh how can you put something like dolch deadeye to S? its complete dogshit. And also normal conversion to the worst? Thats literally one of the best guns in the game, small spread, fast firing and you just have a mini cheap uppercut. With the new updates its even better than the uppercut. This whole list is absolute dogshit.
That’s your opinion my man, and you’re welcome to it! Totally disagree though. If you listen you’ll hear that I say repeatedly that any variant of a base weapon (i.e. Dolch Deadeye) will go in the same tier as its base version. I didn’t really want to rank the variants so that’s how I did it. Second, the Conversion is simply not good. It’s hardly ever picked in high tier lobbies. It takes 3 shots to kill from outside anything other than short range, making it a worse pick than almost anything else for that range. If you’re just starting out, maybe it’s a decent option, but anything higher than 4* star lobbies and you’re gonna get run through bringing in a conversion. I’m pretty low on the Uppercut, especially now with even more nerfs, but that doesn’t make your argument for the Conversion any more sound.
@@Ehmri high tier lobbies? really? :D Ive been a 6 star for more than a year now, conversion is much better just because of small recoil, small bullet drop and faster firerate. All you need is a headshot, i dont see any reason to shoot at a torso from a distance if you are in a "high tier lobby" if you shoot him in the head you dont care about three shots into a torso
@@swashbucklingseaman3947 You do you bro! All I know is you being good with a weapon is completely subjective and doesn't make it a good pick for most people. I hope I run into you in a 6* star lobby while you're using the conversion!
Pure shotgun? 100% bro. Not even close. Drilling is not as reliable as a shotgun…and it’s $400 dollars more. This tier list takes everything into account, price included. Drilling is way overpriced if we’re just talking pure shotgun.
No need to get hostile my friend. I meant $300. I just don’t think the Drilling is worth it. There are plenty of discussions on how overpriced it is as well so I think there’s a good amount of people on my side as well but to each their own!
I think you might be misunderstanding. I’m simply saying you can feel free to disagree and enjoy what you want. That’s your opinion. And yes, the video is mine. You don’t have to agree. Not sure why you’re so pressed man but I hope you enjoy your Terminus/Drilling loadout!
What up gamers. Hope you enjoy this tier list. Would love to hear your favorites in the comments here. Lmk!
I like my lebels and my drillings ngl
Love the content, keep it up 😀 This is now my favorite hunt channel.
Man thank you! That means a lot fr. Really appreciate the support. 🤝
You did the Officer Nagant dirty. It's biggest strength comes in the specific zoom you get when aiming with it. I think it's got one of the most conventional zooms that adheres to average shooter games, like your muscle memory from past gaming experiences just kicks in for it, I can't get headclicks with anything else as reliably as Nagant Officer.
I hear you man! Glad it works for you, but that is all very subjective. I still think objectively it’s pretty weak, considering you have to 3 tap people outside of very short distances. Keep rocking with it though man!
I’m really excited to watch this and see my medium slot Springfield with dumdum and explosive in s tier
After watching this I will politely disagree with you. I feel that you are scared of the versatility of those cheap springfields, so quickly skipped over and tossed away to C tier
Low-key best comment
I know I know..those things, they terrify me…
Tier list tier list:
A - Shotgun, Rifles
B - Pistols
C - Melee & Specials
You actually ranked them. Absolute legend.
I don't know when this video was recorded but the Vetterli Cyclone price got reduced a couple of patches ago to around 300 now, making it much more affordable
Fs. Some of it is unfortunately out of date. I will be doing another tier list probably after the next big patch sometime later next year.
My current favs are Mosin Obrez Mace w/spitzer and Drilling hatchet.
Both kinds of melle damage deal with anything on the map in one shot and it frees up a tool slot which to me is big.
Great video! Love your perspectives!
Drilling hatchet with bleed is pretty dang elite can't even lie. Love the Obrez too. Smart to free up the tool slot too. Appreciate the feedback and support man!
I just got into this game but bold of you to say a hunting bow is the best weapon in the game
Glad to have you in the bayou! And yes that would be bold! That's why I put it in B tier in its category. Definitely not the best haha.
Fav gun - Centenntial (with bleed usually)
best gun - gotta be Mosin or another long ammo rifle
Solid picks! Been having a blast with the Cenny/levering in Clash lately. So good.
Oh man here we go. this is gonna be wild lol
Buckle up my man haha
There is NO way the bomb Lance is higher then the hunting bow 🏹
The bow is a solo stealth king and performs pretty well in a straight up gunfight
I hear you man! I love the hunting bow. Just think the Bomb Lance has more utility, which bumps it up.
my overall best guns are: Long Range = Lebel, Mid range = Winfields, Mid-Close = Drilling, Close = Romero
Solid picks! Especially love the Lebel and Romero. So consistent both of those.
in the right hands Hunting Bow is def A+
Agreed.
Some (hopefully) constructive criticism. Granted I'm only a fourth through the video... So if you make proper amendments, my apologies.
You desperately need to set some sort of baseline if you're going to do something like a tier list.
For example, you rate the haymaker S tier despite being quite literally a pocket Romero shorty (iirc.) Yet, at the same time, rate the base Romero lower. This doesn't make any sense.
I guess my best criticism would be to set a baseline for if you're rating for strictly "feel of the gun, with/without traits, pure *shotgun* (referring to the first portion in this example) aspect, or the weapon as a whole/utility of the weapon itself."
For example, some questions I would establish off the bat would be;
"Am I including all weapons as a whole package, or just this specific aspect? (E.g. lemat's shotgun, not weapon as a whole)
"Am I including traits compensating for shortcomings, increasing viability?"
"Am I taking into account the 'slot cost' of these weapons?"
This helps to solidify picks and gives a much-so needed sense of reasoning, or standard to your list.
It kind of ruins the point of the tier list, for me atleast, if you have no baseline and a mish-mash of some weapons being counted as a whole, and some being only counted as their actual categorical attributes.
Dude I appreciate this response. Super thoughtful and helpful. While I do talk a lot about why I’m prioritizing some things over others (I.e. shorty variants over regular because of not needing quartermaster, or medium/long ammo over compact, silent over non-silent, etc.) these are general sentiment, sometimes fluctuate, and I didn’t do a good job of explaining it up front.
For next time, I’m taking all the feedback into consideration and I will be more upfront and clear about my stipulations, as much as I can be. Some of it is fluid because it’s also just purely subjective and my opinion but I will for sure take this into consideration and try and improve that aspect.
Thanks for watching and I do really appreciate the feedback man!
@@Ehmri understood. I appreciate someone willing to read and digest feedback. Keep up the work. We could always use more hunters.
@@skyler12snype For sure bro. Got you my man. Appreciate the support!
I'm pretty sure sharps carbine is the only medium to one shot missing a small health bar.
You might be right about that! Good catch
Vetterli cyclone is is not 500$+ anymore, its 200 something
Good catch! I had a feeling…should have trusted my gut. The Hunt wiki must be out of date
Bullets are bullets no matter what gun it comes from
That’s a tier list I can get behind.
This tier list Is ****** but yours list.
I don’t understand what you tell me 😅
You can't put Bornheim Match into Same category as other Bornheim Variants. Match 2 taps in upper body and has very low recoil. Never ever B Tier.
I hear you man! Totally fair. I do love that gun. Probably should have had the others a bit lower but not sure I would put the Match higher than high B personally.
Maynard sniper should be S in shotgun and rifle
Haha honestly tho, I have had some games where I pick it up and use it as a hipfire gun and it slaps
@@Ehmri yeah it's crazy good i have a small hunt showdown following let me know if you ever want run one
@@rpggaming988 Fs bro! Let's run some soon
I think I know what your gonna say is the best gun but im gonna watch the whole video before i say..
Duplicate?
Where is the maynard :o
Dude…I completely forgot about the Maynard. Mb. I think I’d go with a solid B. Good overall option but it does have drawbacks (medium ammo, single shot, no variants, etc.) I think it slots in nicely above some of the weaker rifles but definitely below A rank and better long ammo options. Where would you put it?
Favorite gun has been the Cyclone lately, I usually play duos as a solo or with a friend so it does the job with 4 rounds and two-tapping to the body.
Also, in my opinion bornheim match should go above 1-slot bornheim for its 2-tap ability due to its higher damage. Feels like a medium Cyclone with more bullets sometimes. And after watching your tier list I have to say I agree with your picks a lot more than Khalamity's... Not taking into account the tactical advantage of suppressors because of slightly worse stats got me goin 🤨
Such a good gun man. I ran it so much when it first came out, with a Katana as my secondary. So fun.
@@Ehmri Not proud of it, but I ran Cyclone with Auto 5 through Gunslinger a bunch through the event and it was constant, blissful spamming at long + close ranges
Dude what an absolute blast. Nothing wrong with that my man. Sounds like an S-tier loadout to me.
Fun to see these videos. But oh boy your tiers were odd in inconsistency aspects. First haymaker is the god of versatility and then lemat and lemat carbine are not? Then for an example having Officers and Conversion pistol in C to F tier, while having Bornheim and Pax in B is just yikes. Argumenting that Bornheim is fast firing and Pax is hard hitting is weird while Officers and Conversions are really comparable. Arguably the Bornheims are one of the worst weapons in the game, except the silencer which has some utility.
I know, I know it's mostly opinion based, but I was talking about the reasonings for the tiers. 😁
Hahaha dude totally fair! I said it in the video, these lists are weird and inconsistent. Just how my brain works. 😅 I think my reasoning for all the things you listed are 1) I just don’t like the Lemat’s/Conversion/etc. (purely subjective) and 2) I always prioritize harder hitting ammo and rate of fire, which is why I consider the Pax over the conversion, etc.
All good. Just liking things over other things is completely fine. What comes down to Pax is that it is not really harder hitting nor having significanr enough rof. Though medium is better ammo type, but not in this case harder hitting in terms of health bars.
But mostly the Bornheims ticked me off 😅
Statistically it’s not much better for sure but there will be definitely be moments, especially outside of effective range, where Pax comes in clutch. Higher damage, even if only a few points, does play a big role in Hunt. That’s what I mean by “harder hitting.” But I hear you man. Appreciate the feedback. I was probably too high on Bornheim in retrospect but I’m just an enjoyer what can I say…especially dual wielding those bad boys haha
Paxes medium ammo having better range is excellent point that I didn't understand to take into account. I'm just those annoying ppl who like to nitpick. And because of that 😅 I disagree on the miniscual difference in damage plays a big role. Because it doesn't go over the health bar limitsnof 25.
I'm sorry, I'll end this now. Keep up the good work.
@@akitahvanainen Haha no worries I totally hear you! Appreciate the support my man
Certain weapons need to be re done. Cost for drilling is not 450 hunt bucks pretty sure it's 330
For sure. I realize this in hindsight. I guess the wiki wasn't as up to date as I had hoped. I'll definitely be doing another of these in the future when a few more weapons have been added and that time I'll just have the game open so I can reference that way!
@Ehmri wasn't trying to be rude or anything lol. I appreciate the video tho bud
@@XxRedAngelxX531 Oh dude for sure. Didn't think you were. Appreciate the feedback and support man!
@Ehmri no worries bud I just subscribed! Love the content
@@XxRedAngelxX531 Thank you my friend! Really appreciate the support. Glad you like it man!
And maynard ?
Dude…I completely forgot about the Maynard. Mb. I think I’d go with a solid B. Good overall option but it does have drawbacks (medium ammo, single shot, no variants, etc.) I think it slots in nicely above some of the weaker rifles but definitely below A rank and better long ammo options. Where would you put it?
Ok, sparks > avto tho… avto is F for me haha fuq that gun. No place in hunt.
Trueee. Wish it wasn’t in the game fs
The best weapon is... *bleeeeeep* 😂
😂 gotta keep em guessing!
Frontiee 73c C tier? That gun in the right hands is a beast. Cheap, accurate, strong enough to 1 shot, longish range…C tier…this is bs. I killed so many krag/dolch aholes with this gun, is my no1 go for most of the 6tier lobbies…
Respect bro! I could never really get the hang of it. I think I explained in the video that it’s a great head-clicker (maybe I didn’t explain) but it is still a worse option than other rifles overall mainly because of the compact ammo. But you’re right, because of cost I could probably justify it being B tier but that’s probably as high as I would go.
@ i vould even dare to say A tier based on the ammo types and cost. But yes, B would be better than C.
Totally! I’m sure I’ll do another one of these once some new weapons are released and it will probably work its way up in that one 👊🏼
You most def not no 6 stars with the bs you just said
A lot of people are really good with the Frontier…I’m just not one of them 😅
Terminus in F Tier hahahahahahahahahahaha, this 3* is killing me 😂
A 238$ shotgun, that has a 7 shot clip that fires faster than the Auto-5 *(w levering)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lmao I cannot get the terminus to work for me. I was being a bit hyperbolic putting in in F tier but still haha. But also, if you’re saying it requires a trait to be good that's gonna bring it down a bit. Gotta consider everything my man! 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ehmri omg, u r not a real person 🙆🏻♂️
Now that ive seen your opinions ans views on weapons, answers the question for me, how people are able to b in 1 & 2 *
😂 to each their own my friend. Not that it really matters for this discussion but I have been playing since day 1 and I’m a 6* on this account as well as my main account with a cumulative K/D over 2.0. I just don’t like the weapons you do. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ehmri First of all, you arguing against your own Logic, from a in game economical standpoint for example.
And 2nd, grats for being a 6* (which i highliy doubt wo an actual recent Screenshot btw)
Playing since october 12th, between 5&6*
How would that be arguing against my own logic? The Romero is $300 cheaper that’s what I’m saying. And I was talking about pure shotguns. You may have missed that point in the video but that’s what I was saying.
F-tier tier list
nga really put all compact ammo guns below, like winfield is literally one of the best guns in the game
Would actually be "Just The Worst" on my scale
@nonking7978 Definitely a solid option, especially starting out. Problem is it's rarely picked in high tier lobbies (all long ammo) unless you can click heads, which most people can't. I'm grading it against other options, not against itself or how good someone can be with it.
bruh how can you put something like dolch deadeye to S? its complete dogshit. And also normal conversion to the worst? Thats literally one of the best guns in the game, small spread, fast firing and you just have a mini cheap uppercut. With the new updates its even better than the uppercut. This whole list is absolute dogshit.
That’s your opinion my man, and you’re welcome to it! Totally disagree though. If you listen you’ll hear that I say repeatedly that any variant of a base weapon (i.e. Dolch Deadeye) will go in the same tier as its base version. I didn’t really want to rank the variants so that’s how I did it. Second, the Conversion is simply not good. It’s hardly ever picked in high tier lobbies. It takes 3 shots to kill from outside anything other than short range, making it a worse pick than almost anything else for that range. If you’re just starting out, maybe it’s a decent option, but anything higher than 4* star lobbies and you’re gonna get run through bringing in a conversion. I’m pretty low on the Uppercut, especially now with even more nerfs, but that doesn’t make your argument for the Conversion any more sound.
@@Ehmri high tier lobbies? really? :D Ive been a 6 star for more than a year now, conversion is much better just because of small recoil, small bullet drop and faster firerate. All you need is a headshot, i dont see any reason to shoot at a torso from a distance if you are in a "high tier lobby" if you shoot him in the head you dont care about three shots into a torso
@@swashbucklingseaman3947 You do you bro! All I know is you being good with a weapon is completely subjective and doesn't make it a good pick for most people. I hope I run into you in a 6* star lobby while you're using the conversion!
@@Ehmri maybe someday, but still playing one conversion with fmj in each slot with fanning is op, cheap and effective
@@swashbucklingseaman3947 I hear you man! I'm glad it works for you. Maybe you can down me one day with it and I'll have to eat my words!
Romero shorty over Drilling hatchet 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hahahahahahahahahahaha
Pure shotgun? 100% bro. Not even close. Drilling is not as reliable as a shotgun…and it’s $400 dollars more. This tier list takes everything into account, price included. Drilling is way overpriced if we’re just talking pure shotgun.
@Ehmri the D3 hatchet is 370 total. You are obviously not only a genius in weapon tier listing, also math too.
No need to get hostile my friend. I meant $300. I just don’t think the Drilling is worth it. There are plenty of discussions on how overpriced it is as well so I think there’s a good amount of people on my side as well but to each their own!
@@Ehmri to each their own? Then dont post a Video on youtube, expressing your opinion "bro"
I think you might be misunderstanding. I’m simply saying you can feel free to disagree and enjoy what you want. That’s your opinion. And yes, the video is mine. You don’t have to agree. Not sure why you’re so pressed man but I hope you enjoy your Terminus/Drilling loadout!
I think I know what your gonna say is the best gun but im gonna watch the whole video before i say..
No spoilers! Haha