It's been 8 months since this video - curious to know if pool noodles have held up? I know they start to disintergrate when out in the sun/pool environment. Wondering if same happens indoors and in the dark?
Hello, I am doing something very similar for my daughter in law. Do you find that the 2" pool pieces make the floor too springy? The dance floor will be used by younger and teen dancers, doing tap, traditional ballet, as well as contemporary dance. What do you think, are you happy with floor, and do you do this kind of dancing training, and how is the level of bouncyness?
@@salmonba123 Hi there. We're going into our 3rd year. We do tap, ballet, hip hop and jazz for beginner level students. As a teacher on the floor for up to 30 hours a wk it's holding up well... however, I anticipate an update at the 5 year mark or so.
@@salmonba123 that's exactly what we use on the floor. we specialize in beginner students. Tap, ballet, hip hop and jazz. Not too springy. I will most likely replace it at year five.
I just installed a very similar floor in 3 of our studio rooms. Almost 5,000 sq feet of it! About to put down Marley but first I was curious if you’ve had any issues with screws popping up or any other issue with the plywood…
Can someone comment back whether 2" thickness noodle is too bouncy? Wondering if 2" will give too much cushion. Raised floorings were designed so that dancers weren't dancing on hard concrete. Unsure whether 2" becomes more like a gymnastics floor. Appreciate any advice. Thanks.
I’m about to try a very small version of this for my covered patio. Since I won’t have walls to hold everything in place on the edges, what do you recommend for keeping it in place? Its going to be about 8x8
Excellent, informative video! I notice you did this directly over carpeting, any issues with that? Can the carpeting stay? or do i need to remove it and get down to the concrete?
Hello! These Videos have given me so much insight on flooring that I want to do. I have a question because I do Latin dance instruction and NEED wood flooring. I want to do smooth plywood top. Any suggestions? Would these work without nails or screws? If not then would I glue them? Someone please help. THANK YOU in advance.
Open Concept Construction: you make a comment below that you would add more rings... would it not make more sense to just double the size of the pool noodle and use 4"?
Great job guys!!! We're getting ready to lay our floors and I had two questions. 1. I noticed what looked to be a 2 x 4 along the walls, was that the case? 2. How much spacing did you guys leave for weather expansion and contraction? Thanks in advance.
They were away from the wall in an "L" configuration to make sure the floor couldn't shift from side to side. Beings that its in a temperature controlled space expansion and contraction wasn't really something we took into account. Besides that the floor moves a bit in all directions from it being a floating floor.
Hi there.. we installed this in our studio. It’s great. But for some reason all the borders/edges underneath the base board are sinking. Any suggestions of why this happened? And how to fixed?
Erin, I just did a quick estimate for a company I work for but using 3/4 EVA foam instead of pool noodles, 23/32 douglas fir tongue and groove plywood, and 1/2 pine plywood for the sub floor, and my estimate came out to be around $1,600 for a 12x24 stage (with $150 for screws, glue paint, etc). So roughly materials will run you about $5.60/square foot.
If it's not for a busy dance studio, but for a small art studio with a dance space that may be 5 people will use, rarely altogether. could we use plywood sheets that aren't oak or maple (or any other expensive wood)?
@@fuschia5782 You could us a liquid nails type of product BUT!!! I built this floor so I could come back and replace portions of the floor (noodles) without destroying the floor.
@@openconceptconstruction6740 thank you for taking time to reply. Can I do this 0n a carpeted floor with the noodles on the carpet? For a 4ft x 8ft size dance floor?
Would have been more efficient to make the jig longer and put several slots for cutting, and leave the end open so you can just slide the cut pieces out as you go.
Are these pool noodles really supportive enough and allow for sufficient sprung? Won't they give in and lose their shape when danced on regularly and intensely? I thought about using some of these foam mats for playgrounds and then place the noodles with plywood on top of it? Or maybe even add a layer of plywood so that I have: 1) foam mats 2) plywood 3) plywood with attached pool noodles 4) plywood 5) Marley. Do you think that would make much of a difference? My floor would only be for a home dance studio, which is why it doesn't need to be one of those high quality and expensive harlequin floor systems, which will cost a fortune if not used for a company/school...
I'm looking to do this to teach Zumba from my home (the carpet is killing me, and the rest of my house is hard tile). You CAN use those foam mats, because they will be better than nothing. They will develop soft and hard spots though, because the pressure is only on the foam, not distributed as it would be in a design like this (a more true sprung floor). They also recommend NOT using screws in another video (from someone else) as they can poke through the flooring and damage the top cover. You really need the two layers of flooring for the stability or it will be too wobbly at the seems and not supportive enough. Then the dance layer (marley) on top. A smaller floor will likely need a frame border (pushing it against a wall will help) to help hold it in place. Look at "Million Dollar Dance Studio's" post about how to do this and they go into a bit more detail (I love the little cutting system the guy created in this video to make the foam circles uniform and not having to measure each time).
One thing to remember is that yes, they may lose their shape a little bit but they will not completely compress down to nothing, They will likely stay held up enough and "equally" (if any) deteriorate. If they do, they would still be up enough to allow movement of the floor to take some of force off of joints,
It Was! Not sure how well its gonna hold up. There are products that cost around the same that would for sure last longer but that's what the customer wanted.
@@openconceptconstruction6740 what product would last longer than marley if you don't mind sharing? Currently building a dance floor and marley is so expensive!
Ive seen this done without the extra layer of plywood on the top. Is that to give it extra security? What was the cost in your area and how many pool noodles do you need to buy? We are doing this soon for 1000sq ft
The second Layer makes it much more usable. The floor is really unstable until the second layer is added. Also I may add a bit more noodle pieces when I do this next time. Instead of doing them 5x10 on the bottom id do more like 7x12 that's 84 pieces per sheet of ply and right around 3000 pieces needed to do a floor that size. So around 750 lineal feet of noodle or 150 noodles. Make sure to cut them super strait and good luck!!!
There are reasons why specialists have developed special dance floor systems rahter than to takesome pool noodles. No one has ever tested any shock absorption or how lon this material wil last. But anyway good luck.
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I’d suggest having a hole for the 2” noodle to drop through once it’s cut. With a lot of cuts it would reduce your work time by quite a bit.
So clear and quick. Thank you!
It's been 8 months since this video - curious to know if pool noodles have held up? I know they start to disintergrate when out in the sun/pool environment. Wondering if same happens indoors and in the dark?
Very cool!!
thank you for this
If you guys are wondering how to make a “fake stage” for home, it’s the same thing just make more layers of the wood and stack them
What size screws and how many per board? Also, what adhesive do you recommend? Thank you! GREAT video!
I have been so happy with my floor almost a year later! Thanks guys!
Awww shucks!
Hello, I am doing something very similar for my daughter in law. Do you find that the 2" pool pieces make the floor too springy? The dance floor will be used by younger and teen dancers, doing tap, traditional ballet, as well as contemporary dance. What do you think, are you happy with floor, and do you do this kind of dancing training, and how is the level of bouncyness?
@@salmonba123 Hi there. We're going into our 3rd year. We do tap, ballet, hip hop and jazz for beginner level students. As a teacher on the floor for up to 30 hours a wk it's holding up well... however, I anticipate an update at the 5 year mark or so.
@@salmonba123 that's exactly what we use on the floor. we specialize in beginner students. Tap, ballet, hip hop and jazz. Not too springy. I will most likely replace it at year five.
We did this for our dance floor and we have screws popping up? Has anyone have this experience?
I just installed a very similar floor in 3 of our studio rooms. Almost 5,000 sq feet of it! About to put down Marley but first I was curious if you’ve had any issues with screws popping up or any other issue with the plywood…
Hi, thanks for sharing! I would like to make this kind of flood in my garage. May I ask how thick the wooden board you used? Thank you!
Can someone comment back whether 2" thickness noodle is too bouncy? Wondering if 2" will give too much cushion. Raised floorings were designed so that dancers weren't dancing on hard concrete. Unsure whether 2" becomes more like a gymnastics floor. Appreciate any advice. Thanks.
are the pool noodles the 2-1/2" diameter? and for like a 40'x40' would increasing the grid to 7x12 be better and why? thank you!
Has anyone tried this for outdoors yet? Trying to make one for my wedding
I’m about to try a very small version of this for my covered patio. Since I won’t have walls to hold everything in place on the edges, what do you recommend for keeping it in place? Its going to be about 8x8
Could you build a 2X4 boarder with the 2X4 on its side? 3-1/2 tall.
Excellent, informative video! I notice you did this directly over carpeting, any issues with that? Can the carpeting stay? or do i need to remove it and get down to the concrete?
Hello! These Videos have given me so much insight on flooring that I want to do. I have a question because I do Latin dance instruction and NEED wood flooring. I want to do smooth plywood top. Any suggestions? Would these work without nails or screws? If not then would I glue them? Someone please help. THANK YOU in advance.
Hi man, awesome work, I want to built a wall like this for my acrobatics trainings and I'm wondering which type od wood did you use?
Is it best to use hollow pool noodles? I'm trying to pick which brand/type of pool noodle to buy and I want a quality one that will last the longest.
what adhesive did you use to attach the noodles to the wood? How much do you need? (How many sheets 10oz tube cover?)
Hi I am working on a floor plan, could you tell me what was the final height of the floor?
Do you think you could have done without the screws? Is there a chance they might pop up?
Open Concept Construction: you make a comment below that you would add more rings... would it not make more sense to just double the size of the pool noodle and use 4"?
not gonna lie @1:57 Young Erics text alert goes off and I laughed like an idiot!
Great job guys!!! We're getting ready to lay our floors and I had two questions. 1. I noticed what looked to be a 2 x 4 along the walls, was that the case? 2. How much spacing did you guys leave for weather expansion and contraction? Thanks in advance.
They were away from the wall in an "L" configuration to make sure the floor couldn't shift from side to side. Beings that its in a temperature controlled space expansion and contraction wasn't really something we took into account. Besides that the floor moves a bit in all directions from it being a floating floor.
Is that what is called plywood where you are? Looks like chipboard. Wouldn't plywood be better?
What measurements on the noodle grid?
Great video, thanks for the info. Can you tell us what is the grey rolls of material you applied?
Its a product called Marley
curious about how long the pool noodle would last over years of dancing on top
Anybody had their pool noodle floor for a few years? Getting ready to do this and have concerns about squeaks between boards?
Hi there..
we installed this in our studio. It’s great. But for some reason all the borders/edges underneath the base board are sinking.
Any suggestions of why this happened? And how to fixed?
Hello can you tell me what kind of wood you need .
Thanks a lot
Where can I get a jig from? Do you sell them?
Cutting them using a knife an jig, is faster than cutting them using a miter saw, as 1 guy did (building his martial arts floor).
Well done...
how did you finished the edges?
Thank you for this video! I'm curious, what was your total cost for supplies???
Erin, I just did a quick estimate for a company I work for but using 3/4 EVA foam instead of pool noodles, 23/32 douglas fir tongue and groove plywood, and 1/2 pine plywood for the sub floor, and my estimate came out to be around $1,600 for a 12x24 stage (with $150 for screws, glue paint, etc). So roughly materials will run you about $5.60/square foot.
Great idea.. now you need some mirrors
mirrors were installed after all flooring was done
If it's not for a busy dance studio, but for a small art studio with a dance space that may be 5 people will use, rarely altogether. could we use plywood sheets that aren't oak or maple (or any other expensive wood)?
Hey Dani, we generally use T&G plywood board for our commercial installations so you should be safe there.
How far away are the noodles from the end of the plywood?
How far away would you have the piece when doing the 7x12 layout?
As close to the sides as possible. We did 2" away from the sides and anytime it was needed to be closer I added more pieces while it was laying down.
What did you use to close the open edges?
What was the spacing you used for the noodles? What did you use to glue them to the wood?
Adhesive. What is he dipping the noodles in? Thank you for this video
CrossFit Seward-The Apex Gym LLC liquid nails you can use
Hey!
we use PL premium which is a little better glue than a liquid nails
What kind of glue did you use to make the form stick to the board
Used PL premium. bout the only thing that would work. I've heard liquid nails construction adhesive works but never really like the stuff myself.
Hey! Please, what size screws did you use?
Thanks for the video very useful
we used a wide 1 3/4" 'Gyp-to-Gyp" screw since it wasn't going into anything underneath.
@@openconceptconstruction6740 thank you!
Helpful video. Can you use a liquid nail to join the 2 plywoods instead of screws?
Also, is it important that the plywoods overlap on top?
@@fuschia5782 You could us a liquid nails type of product BUT!!!
I built this floor so I could come back and replace portions of the floor (noodles) without destroying the floor.
@@openconceptconstruction6740 thank you for taking time to reply. Can I do this 0n a carpeted floor with the noodles on the carpet? For a 4ft x 8ft size dance floor?
Can I do this on a carpeted floor with the noodles on the carpet?
that's what they did in this video by the looks of it.
Hello, Where are you located?
Would have been more efficient to make the jig longer and put several slots for cutting, and leave the end open so you can just slide the cut pieces out as you go.
Are these pool noodles really supportive enough and allow for sufficient sprung? Won't they give in and lose their shape when danced on regularly and intensely? I thought about using some of these foam mats for playgrounds and then place the noodles with plywood on top of it? Or maybe even add a layer of plywood so that I have: 1) foam mats 2) plywood 3) plywood with attached pool noodles 4) plywood 5) Marley. Do you think that would make much of a difference? My floor would only be for a home dance studio, which is why it doesn't need to be one of those high quality and expensive harlequin floor systems, which will cost a fortune if not used for a company/school...
I'm thinking of doing exactly this for my daughter's dance floor in our garage especially because the existing floor is concrete.
I'm looking to do this to teach Zumba from my home (the carpet is killing me, and the rest of my house is hard tile). You CAN use those foam mats, because they will be better than nothing. They will develop soft and hard spots though, because the pressure is only on the foam, not distributed as it would be in a design like this (a more true sprung floor). They also recommend NOT using screws in another video (from someone else) as they can poke through the flooring and damage the top cover. You really need the two layers of flooring for the stability or it will be too wobbly at the seems and not supportive enough. Then the dance layer (marley) on top. A smaller floor will likely need a frame border (pushing it against a wall will help) to help hold it in place. Look at "Million Dollar Dance Studio's" post about how to do this and they go into a bit more detail (I love the little cutting system the guy created in this video to make the foam circles uniform and not having to measure each time).
Generally professional sprung floors do use pieces of foam spaced just like they did with the pool noodles. It is more springy than using full mats.
One thing to remember is that yes, they may lose their shape a little bit but they will not completely compress down to nothing, They will likely stay held up enough and "equally" (if any) deteriorate. If they do, they would still be up enough to allow movement of the floor to take some of force off of joints,
Hi, was that Marley that was put in as the final layer ?
It Was!
Not sure how well its gonna hold up.
There are products that cost around the same that would for sure last longer but that's what the customer wanted.
@@openconceptconstruction6740 Thanks Guys!
@@openconceptconstruction6740 what product would last longer than marley if you don't mind sharing? Currently building a dance floor and marley is so expensive!
@@kelseywilliams8426 I would like to see how Lifeproof vinyl flooring would last. It flexes a bit and is tough as nails.
Ive seen this done without the extra layer of plywood on the top. Is that to give it extra security? What was the cost in your area and how many pool noodles do you need to buy? We are doing this soon for 1000sq ft
The second Layer makes it much more usable. The floor is really unstable until the second layer is added. Also I may add a bit more noodle pieces when I do this next time. Instead of doing them 5x10 on the bottom id do more like 7x12 that's 84 pieces per sheet of ply and right around 3000 pieces needed to do a floor that size. So around 750 lineal feet of noodle or 150 noodles.
Make sure to cut them super strait and good luck!!!
Open Concept Construction if we are putting on bare concrete would we need any barrier layer?
@@RISE-DPAC nope
@Lexi zhu yes!
With all that cutting, you could put a hole for the 2” noodle to drop through once cut so you don’t have to physically remove it every single time.
Who searched pool noodles and who searched dance floors? 😂
There are reasons why specialists have developed special dance floor systems rahter than to takesome pool noodles. No one has ever tested any shock absorption or how lon this material wil last. But anyway good luck.