When you said you had the power supply for 4 years, and you just now found out there is a switch to turn on blue LEDs.. The excitement in your voice made me geniunly feel happy for you. Im glad you found that little button that turns on LEDs.
Glad you taught me what a PCI-E RISER CABLE is. Looked and found you knew 2 years ago. Cool. Might need one on a new build. As always, good work and love your Channel.
Today I discovered this stuff at eBay and immediately I had this question. Glad you answered! Thanks for sharing and now I'm very interested on some of your videos, great info!
Another great video Morten! I"ve done some similar experiments with my Citrix access gateways. I didn't use nearly the high end card you are using, but I was able to make a substantial improvement in he graphics quality over the on board graphics. Thanks again for all the great videos. Thumbs up! eric
Interesting experiment you made. Getting a graphics card to fit and actually work in a 1U or 2U server can be a pain in the ass. Still use an old HP Proliant DL380 G4 as a Windows 7 x64 client for a special monitoring application. With only PCI-X slots i tried a bunch of PCI graphics cards that could work and would be better than the abysmal onboard ATI Rage XL. Suprisingly one of the last PCI cards made, the Geforce GT610, was compatible. Tried it in a DL380 G3 also just for fun and no problems.
Thanks for sharing. Although it looks like a USB cable, it isn't carrying a USB signal but only shares connectors. The results are only surprising in that they are faster than I expected. Remember that it is now only a 1x connector going into the PC no matter what slot you plug it into. Even if the video card is plugged into what looks like a 16x slot, it can;t magic up the extra 15 pcie lanes from nowhere so it will still only communicate through that 1x connector on the end of the ribbon cable. The use of a 16x slot is probably more to do with supporting the card and stopping it falling over than anything electrical (are the extra pins even wired up in the circuit board?)
The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P and it supports PCIe version 2.0, it has multiple x16 & x1 slots. The video card is an ATI Radeon 5970, it supports PCIe version 2.1 x16, that would be a maximum data transfer of 8GB/s when plugged directly into the motherboard. The adapter plugs into a PCIe x1 slot on the motherboard, so the video card can achieve a maximum data transfer of 500MB/s. Considering the data bandwidth limitation of PCIe 1x the benchmark numbers are pretty good. Thank you for the in depth demo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
Typically the mother board PCI16 slot would deliver up to 75 Watts, I think with the 6 pin connector you might be limited to a little less with your USB riser, but the power connections going to the GPU should make up for it. This wouldn't work for a Nvidia 4090 though...
If you would be interested some motherboards in the bios can switch between the different PCIe type modes i.e. 1x 4x 8x 16x so you could switch the bandwidth in 'software' and try at what bandwidth the performance is not degraded - along those results I would imagine that if you got a PCIe 4x to 16x ribbon style cable that you could do something similar without loosing performance
Hi Friedrich Winkler I was looking for a 4x to 16x,,, they are not quite as smart, but cheap :-) www.aliexpress.com/item/EL4996-PCI-Express-4X-Male-To-PCI-E-16X-Female-Riser-Ribbon-Extender-Cable-Adapter/2012044399.html Do you know of any better?? Thank you for watching! :-)
I would be very curious to see what kind of impact this adapter has on a slightly slower graphics card - something like an HD 6450 or 5570. I suspect that there is a performance level at or below which the adapter no longer impacts performance, but I'm curious where exactly that cutoff is.
This was the best way to show how this riser/extender works. Bravo I think you have done an excellent video . I have 1 question. Did you use the 4 pin molex straight from the ATX power supply??? My pci-e riser (same as yours) came with a 15 pin sata to 4 pin molex connector. Is this cable needed ? Thanks
Hi +Panayiotis Palmiris Thanx,, as few, shout cables as possible,, is good. It is just power cables,, so which one you use is up to you. Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi +My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) You are welcome. My pleasure. Does sata to molex cable give enough power??? I have my reserves. Do you think it is the same in terms of watts compared to 4 pin molex from Power supply?? Say that we use a 75 watt PCI-E graphics card which is the peak without additional power connector. Would tha sata to molex connector be enough to power the pci-e graphics card say for laptop usage??? I am not comfortable in using it. Maybe it is just the placebo effect the sata has created in my mind. :)I will try to test this hardware and compare it with the V8.3 EXP GDC expresscard dock. To be used as an expresscard though, for laptops, it needs enough power from an AC/DC adaptor or a 4 pin molex from PS if it can cope with 75 watt. If it achieves same performance and 4 pin molex gives 75 watt I will purchase this hardware and sell it. but I need the expresscard modification :) It looks great. Is there a compatible case???
Hi +Panayiotis Palmiris Well test it! 75w is a lot of power,,, but it shout be able to do it. Check the cables,, if they become varm. Thank you for watching! :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) According to Wikipedia it should be ok. Molex connectors can be found repurposed, through use of an adaptor, to serve as six-pin PCI-E power connectors to make up for a lack of such connectors on a power supply.. And we know that the 6 pin PCI-E power connector is 75 watt. :)))))) I hope the riser can cope. Actually it is already sold on ebay with normal usb3 express card connector and 4 pin molex to 12V ac/dc adaptor but of very low amperage (70-85 USD) My idea already sold but their adaptor not strong for graphics cards. :) Will test with ATX PS. However usb3 is 4/5 of express card bandwidth so I expect a 56% of pci-e x16 performance. The next test is to see the performance over mpci-e. is it 56% or more?? :)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) It does not work with a laptop from usb3 connection. Only a desktop/server product. :( In case a dedicated cable is produced (laptops mpci-e or expresscard) that can make this riser connect to the laptop please inform us :) I think it should be investigated due to its low price. This mPCI-E connector does not fit in a laptops mpci-e slot.
mainly usefull for mining riggs as those do not need alot (pcie) bandwidth using only 1 pcie lane means your (max) bandwidth is x16 lower if you dont care about restricted performance go ahead.
Thank you for this experiment. Naturally it takes a server specialist to think of that. Now I have a question: you connect the PCI 1X to the graphic card, have you tried to connect the graphic card directly to usb3, and see how the degradation will be? This will provide a way for connecting a completely closed server to an external gpu unit.
Hi Mamdouh Tawadros Thank You very much! This has nothing to do with USB,, they have just used a cable with a number of leads,,, that happens to have some connectors you know,,, do not try to connect this to any USB port! Thank you for watching! :-)
Actually, it makes no difference to the OS if the card is connected via PCIex 16x (direct) or PCIex 1x (extender). The reason for the reduced performance is the reduced link bandwidth. However, this is heavily workload related and Applications that do not require a lot of communication between CPU and GPU (for example CUDA/OpenCL) should show virtually no difference. VM's should also see no difference.
My PlayHouse, I am wondering which version of the PCIe standard your testbed motherboard supports. If it is PCIe 2.0, for example, and your expansion card supports the newer 3.0, that could be a bottleneck on your performance seeing as your results did not change from 1x to 16x when you relocated the 1x USB connector. If your extended card came with documentation in another language outside of Chinese, you might check to see which specifications this expansion card supports, and it might give you a better reading in a testbed motherboard that supports PCIe version 3.0. Otherwise, thank you for sharing your experiment with us.
Hi Tyler Barton The mothereboard is a GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3 witch seems to be with (All PCI Express slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.) The extended card did not come with any documentation :-/ I was suggested to try with a x4 two x16 instead, do you know anything about them? Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse, If all of your PCIe slots on this motherboard are PCIe 2.0, then your maximum throughput should be 5 gigatransfers per second, or 4 gigabytes per second per lane. With an additional three lanes on the transfer side, that should boost performance. However, I am not sure if these are made as I have never seen any. Also, if you are doing more of this sort of thing, you might want to get a modular power supply where you only plug in the connections you need and leave off the ones you do not. If you procure one of them, you have much less excess cable lying around the table or inside the computer case. Of course, I have yet to upgrade to one myself, but you are more on the cutting edge of technology!
Hi Tyler Barton He He i doun't feel, cutting edge when i´m trying to install a 6 years old graphics card in an just as old server :-) I found this on www.aliexpress.com - @2012044399. But Friedrich Winkler said there was some nicer ones on Ebay,, those I have not yet been looked at. Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi die0ralive That will not work! this is not USB at all! the cable it a USB cable, but it is just a four wire cable, and they used USB cable. Thank you for watching! :-)
This is actually not meanth for people who want to do something like this... it’s for miners because mining doest need such high transfer rate from pci slot so it doesnt impact performance in that usecase...
hi sir, My mobo GA 78LMT S2P and we both have PCI e Generation 2.0 like Mobo that you have GA Z68XP UD3P ... can the NVME SSD be installed in the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot (use extender if needed) please make a video about this? because I want to add storage to my computer. ... thank before
Thanks for video, this one is probable the only video on YT which tests PCIe1x and PCIe16X. To sum it up: Original results (GPU on board): 2D: 675 3D: 2113 PCIe1x: 2D: 671 3D: 1456 PCIe16x: ??? ??? I did not catch it, can you please elaborate? Thanks
So when you build mining ring on servers ;) btw: Invest some money on painting this first room. At first I thought that this your underground bunker ;)
interesting how well deos computer run with out case? i found fan that lights up with heatsink today lol :) and looking for very good atx powersupply that has ide cables connectors and sata ones like above 400w
Did it work with your server by using an external PSU though ? Did you have to short our external PSU to make the whole thing works ? Is it mandatory to plug the SATA power into the adapter ?
Hi +Saša Benčić You have to use the 1x adaptor,,, This has nothing to do with USB. See it as a cable,, it just happens to be with connectors you know :-/ Thank you for watching! :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) ah ok... im planing on building a litecoin mining rig so looking to expand board capabilities by adding max ammount of cards on a single board!
hi great video! i want to ask if this will work as an external gpu dock for a mini pc? i have a foxconn nt-a3500 and was wondering if i could plug this into the wifi adapter slot (PCIe)?
Hi grimoxz11 Thank You very much! I have not tried that,, but there are spicial mini PCI adapters available : amzn.to/2jmaMBZ Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi I wanna build a dual cup gaming pc but the motherboards only have pci the white ones or pcie x8 at most what would you suggest if I was to go ahead with my project?
Hi +vSunnyDee I do not believe that this is good for gaming! You lose to much speed in the only 1X. I think you are better of investing in a motherboard with 2 or more PCI-express 16X slots,,, and selling the old motherboard,, to get some of the investment back. Thank you for watching! :-)
hello,I wont to buy a dan case 4 (smallest mini itx gaming pc case ) and it dse not have an m.2 extender cable :(the m.2 needs a fan for cooling and I can not mount it if I do not poot somewhere alse in the case the m.2 ssd.so I don't know if I should buy the dan case 4 pc case if I can not cool the m.2 ssd.thanks
Do you know what daughter board I can use to power a port expander card . ( HP 487738-001 468405-002 24bay 3gb SAS expander card w/ 4x- 498426-001 SAS cable)
Hi +furulevi No i do not see how that would make any difference,, It´s slow because it only has 1x and not 16x to work with. Thank you for watching! :-)
I have a setup with one gpu and wanted to another...but the 2nd pcie slot was too close So I used a similar usb riser and placed it in the 16x slot but it started burning and produced smoke...why do you think this happened?
sulaiman rohani you probably shouldn't... if it is an old mobo you probably have an old system and cpu, and you will waste some performance due to the limitations of the pcie x1
Hi joseph wasilewski I'm probably a bad example, for it has been VERY close to getting a fire in my data center. when experimentation with UPS batteries. But otherwise I think you're right. There is really not much that can burn in a data center. the risk is very limited. Thank you for watching! :-)
Your Wifi card is most likely connected via mini PCIe (one lane). Don't confuse it with mSATA though, because they use the same socket but are not electrically compatible! The mSATA slots usually say "SSD" in silk screen on the motherboard. This means you can remove your built-in Wifi card, use a USB one or ethernet and connect a graphics card instead. Keep in mind that mini PCIe connectors have a different shape than desktop ones, meaning this particular PCIe riser will not fit. Sockets compatible with laptop connectors are somewhat more expensive, starting at 40 bucks. Also, your card will definitely need power from an external ATX supply.
Hi Thành Nguyễn Yes,, there is only 75watt coming in to the GPU from the PCI-e,, max! the rest it gets from 6 or 8 pin power 6-pin = 75W, 8-pin = 150W - glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Thank you for answering, my main board is riddled with 16x so I have to use this riser, its performance has been reduced, because I'm from Vietnam so I don't understand what you said in the video.
I keep missing it. what are the number differences for each test? what does it mean? and can someone simplify it for a newbe to this stuff by saying something around the lines of % difference of origional
HI This video is rather old,, I can't remember what the F* I was doing,, but it worked, but you lose a lot of performances. Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse I actually think it was a loss of 18% performance if I remember correctly. I recently bought a x3850 as I got an amazing price on a auction. I am trying to put 2 Nforce 680i LT's in this machine as it has 24 cores and 128 GB of ram and I plan to do lots of fun stuff with it. As a side project I want it to run some video games to see if it will work. Your videos have been extremely fun to watch and useful!
I am building myself winXp Pc for gaming but my dumb ass decided to also buy EAX sound card but I forgot the board I bought has only 1x PCIE x16 for gpu and 2x PCIE x1, will pcie x16 slot work with that sound card? The card has short-longer-short pins on it and manual says to put it into "PCI" slot, now I am not sure if PCI-E from this extender would work with it.. I have a feeling its not compatible :(
@@MyPlayHouse Well idk about pins, I educated myself a bit more on the matter and it seems the PCI is compatible with the really old stuff and is made different, like pins are more spaced out and its just not like the express standard so its not compatible. I see there are some PCI-E x1 to PCI extenders, but they are like 30 to 60 bucks and the cheap ones at around 10 to 20 tend to be of a poor quality so it may even arrive broken, typical china :D
There is definitely a bottleneck using a PCI-E 1x port. From the tests i have looked at you need at least a 8x slot to properly use a modern video card.
There is no video for that, I couldn't find which is using mini PCIE - usb 3.0, all of them using Mini PCIE - HDMI. I'm looking for advice, could it be possible using USB 3.0 (connected from device to laptop mini pcie, not using usb laptop port --> often makes miss communication)
@@MyPlayHouse haha absolutely all of them, and your lack of English skills make them kinda cute :D i even got all my friends to subscribe to you but did you ever try a GPU on minisas?
Hi Mohd. Harunnizam Baharon This is a USB 3.0 cable,, but it has nothing to do with USB,, it just the 4 wire cable they used. Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse do they have Risers X8 to X16, where do they sell them? I like the idea of a riser like this, but at least a X4 or X8 would do a much better job, is kind of pointless a X1 obviously is going to be much slower. As an idea feedback, I personally think the motherboard manufacturers should just make all PCI's into a PCIe X20, because that way would be faster, even the ram slots could be replace with two PCIe X20 which would be way faster, that would definitely enhance gaming performance with GDDR5 PCIe X20 much faster than DDR3. And a Motherboard with built in 2GDDR5 ram for better gaming, No DVI No VGA less people are starting to use those with the new HDMI TV's, so only makes the motherboard more bulky and more expensive to make, 3HDMi ports is ideal. And protection in USB's for short circuit because they use the USBkiller to destroy PC's, so the USB ports do have be much enhanced now a days with all this new unsafe devices.
result PCI-E 16X [2113] > PCI-E 1X [1456]I think SLI with USB 3.1. I think it will get better. 1:27 min PCI-E 16X 2D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 675 3D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 21136:48 min Chip Type: ATI display adapter (0x689C) DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Adapter String: ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series Bios Information: 113-C00001-102Total Availabe Graphics Memory: 2774 MB Dedicated Video Memory: 1024 MB System Video Memory: 0 MB 8:35 min2D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 671 3D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 1456 10:13 min3D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 1461
Hi Technical World Thank You very much! Yes there will,, there is no magic. But it is not that great. arstech.com/install/cms-display/ste_spdtst1.html Thank you for watching! :-)
Will it work if i put my wifi card in my pcie x16 and i put my gpu in the extender (cuz the gpu is too big it covers the pcie x1 and i need to put my wifi card)
I would suggest a PCI-E riser cable instead, this is the much faster, and in some cases, safer way of going about what you speak of. The Amazon link below, is a Thermaltake PCI-E riser cable, it is shielded for additional protection against crosstalk. I hope this 2 minute comment helped you out. Recommend PCI-E riser cable: www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Gaming-Black-Extender-AC-053-CN1OTN-C1/dp/B06Y5YNGDJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539235410&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=thermaltake+pcie+riser&dpPl=1&dpID=31TeoRqVanL&ref=plSrch
Hi +Alex Siqueira (Jack's) I am sorry,, I do not have the faintest idea if that would work for you :-) But these boards are so cheap that you could try :-) - amzn.to/1UWpjzN Thank you for watching! :-)
I know but since I got so much cooling and also a airflow with heatsy over the mrvs I'm prety confortable... You see, my readings from the last two years are: SSD 120GB/ CPU FX-8320e 4,375/4,500ghz 1,75V Core temp: 26-51°/ Systin1 38-58° - Mobo temperature 35-59° - GPU 1250MHZ / 15050 - Temps 30-59° - Memory 2400MHZ 1x8bg Cas10 O.C 2000Mhz/1000Mhz cas 9/11/11 1,0v Fbsdram: 1:4 Multiplier X250 FBS: 2500 2 years alredy and prime is still running smoth, those new "e" processors are a little bit trick but when you update your bios up to 2015 compatibility has increased too... if you translate it, you will be able to check the results, unfortunetly the review was from 2014 and back there I was running the fx-6300 processor, overbr.com.br/forum/showthread.php?t=47986... If you are able to properly cool down this Asrock mobo, it is and become superior to many asus ma5- due the fact this one had support officialy to ddr3 1866 oc, up to 2000mhz right now for aplications... Low power consumption as and you can see on the benchmark results high performance, better performance...
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) I really not pay attention to CPU benchmark, Only about monitoring it, ad yeah always working with AMD/Radeon since ever, like to overclock.... But since I just cleaned my radiators and change my termal, we can give it a try, what CPU benchmark would you recoment as a good one for tests? Is there a benchmark that is not designed for RADEON or INTEL?
Hi Gerald Nordahl I use to look at the flip out screen,, I have become better at not doing that.. it´s F**** hard not to. :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
You could although a gt 710 is not a very powerful card even though it is gddr5. If your looking for a low power graphics card I would go with at least a gt730 (29watts) gtx 750(50 watts) gt 1030 (30 watts) gtx 1050 (75 watts) best low power gpu I've ever had was a gt 1030 it can play basically everything at 1080p (at least on low settings) and it sips power. Really good for sff pc's! But if you can afford a little more go with the 1050/1050ti.
Does it work with laptops becouse i have seen people getting this (the link below) and people are using a new graphicscard with a "old" laptop and was wondering if that model you got in the video is compatible with the pri port in laptops (example the pci port for the internet) ? ( www.banggood.com/EXP-GDC-Laptop-External-PCI-E-Graphics-Card-p-934367.html )
+stilloading adventures I got the same v8.3 EXP GDC with expresscard. It works at 1x 2.0 link speed (5 GT/s) if you enable Gen 2 on your bios options. If you get an Nvidia card then you can also use your own laptop screen instead of an external (optimus technology). Generally with eGPU I have passmark performance test score of about 71% compared to desktop 16 lanes installation. On 3dmark06 (directX 9) I had a 94% the performance of 16 lanes installation.
+stilloading adventures My Lenovo T420 has also a PCI-E slot underneath the laptop. If you remove the cover then you can install it there. Most people fix the cable with a tape on the laptop so it stays in place. There is a youtube video with exactly the same configuration (I think video was made with a dell laptop and exp GDC dock).
Hi Uwe W I have never seen anything using x1,,, I have seen x4. but yes if you have an x1 card, you can put it in an x16 slot. Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi Jesús García Gutiérrez It just uses a cable with wires,, and that happens to be a USB 3.0 cable,,, otherwise this has nothing to do with USB. Thank you for watching! :-)
When you said you had the power supply for 4 years, and you just now found out there is a switch to turn on blue LEDs.. The excitement in your voice made me geniunly feel happy for you. Im glad you found that little button that turns on LEDs.
Hi The Saucy Goblin Shark
Thank You very much! I do really not need that blue light :-)
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THANK YOU, YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS MADE A VIDEO ON THIS!!!
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TH-cam suggesting one of your videos was the best suggestion that’s relevant to my interests.
I’ll pass your channel on to all of my geeky friends! 🙂
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Glad you taught me what a PCI-E RISER CABLE is. Looked and found you knew 2 years ago. Cool. Might need one on a new build. As always, good work and love your Channel.
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Today I discovered this stuff at eBay and immediately I had this question. Glad you answered! Thanks for sharing and now I'm very interested on some of your videos, great info!
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Glad I could help! Do have a good look around my videos :-)
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Another great video Morten! I"ve done some similar experiments with my Citrix access gateways. I didn't use nearly the high end card you are using, but I was able to make a substantial improvement in he graphics quality over the on board graphics. Thanks again for all the great videos. Thumbs up!
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Hi epd807
What was your experiment on ?
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This was an awesome review. Thank you very much for uploading this mate. Really well explained and really good tests!!
Have a nice week... :)
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very talented gentleman, I admire you with all due respect .
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Thank you so much. Althought video is old. its still gold, u helped me
You're welcome! It’s very old now 🤔
"Feels wrong..." Great video. You'll need a x8 adapter to probably see some improvements. Keep it up.
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Interesting experiment you made. Getting a graphics card to fit and actually work in a 1U or 2U server can be a pain in the ass. Still use an old HP Proliant DL380 G4 as a Windows 7 x64 client for a special monitoring application. With only PCI-X slots i tried a bunch of PCI graphics cards that could work and would be better than the abysmal onboard ATI Rage XL. Suprisingly one of the last PCI cards made, the Geforce GT610, was compatible. Tried it in a DL380 G3 also just for fun and no problems.
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Thanks for sharing.
Although it looks like a USB cable, it isn't carrying a USB signal but only shares connectors.
The results are only surprising in that they are faster than I expected. Remember that it is now only a 1x connector going into the PC no matter what slot you plug it into.
Even if the video card is plugged into what looks like a 16x slot, it can;t magic up the extra 15 pcie lanes from nowhere so it will still only communicate through that 1x connector on the end of the ribbon cable. The use of a 16x slot is probably more to do with supporting the card and stopping it falling over than anything electrical (are the extra pins even wired up in the circuit board?)
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The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P and it supports PCIe version 2.0, it has multiple x16 & x1 slots. The video card is an ATI Radeon 5970, it supports PCIe version 2.1 x16, that would be a maximum data transfer of 8GB/s when plugged directly into the motherboard. The adapter plugs into a PCIe x1 slot on the motherboard, so the video card can achieve a maximum data transfer of 500MB/s. Considering the data bandwidth limitation of PCIe 1x the benchmark numbers are pretty good. Thank you for the in depth demo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
Typically the mother board PCI16 slot would deliver up to 75 Watts, I think with the 6 pin connector you might be limited to a little less with your USB riser, but the power connections going to the GPU should make up for it. This wouldn't work for a Nvidia 4090 though...
An x16 slot is 75w, a 6pin is 75w and an 8pin is 150w,,, I do not know about the 4090,,,
If you would be interested some motherboards in the bios can switch between the different PCIe type modes i.e. 1x 4x 8x 16x so you could switch the bandwidth in 'software' and try at what bandwidth the performance is not degraded - along those results I would imagine that if you got a PCIe 4x to 16x ribbon style cable that you could do something similar without loosing performance
Hi Friedrich Winkler
I was looking for a 4x to 16x,,, they are not quite as smart, but cheap :-)
www.aliexpress.com/item/EL4996-PCI-Express-4X-Male-To-PCI-E-16X-Female-Riser-Ribbon-Extender-Cable-Adapter/2012044399.html
Do you know of any better??
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My PlayHouse I found some on amazon but not aliexpress serch term: PCIe extender 4x to 16x
That explains a lot, Thank you!
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I would be very curious to see what kind of impact this adapter has on a slightly slower graphics card - something like an HD 6450 or 5570. I suspect that there is a performance level at or below which the adapter no longer impacts performance, but I'm curious where exactly that cutoff is.
Well it should be possible to do a test like that. But more interesting to try something newer and faster instead.
This was the best way to show how this riser/extender works. Bravo I think you have done an excellent video . I have 1 question. Did you use the 4 pin molex straight from the ATX power supply??? My pci-e riser (same as yours) came with a 15 pin sata to 4 pin molex connector. Is this cable needed ? Thanks
Hi +Panayiotis Palmiris
Thanx,, as few, shout cables as possible,, is good. It is just power cables,, so which one you use is up to you.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi +My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) You are welcome. My pleasure. Does sata to molex cable give enough power??? I have my reserves. Do you think it is the same in terms of watts compared to 4 pin molex from Power supply?? Say that we use a 75 watt PCI-E graphics card which is the peak without additional power connector. Would tha sata to molex connector be enough to power the pci-e graphics card say for laptop usage??? I am not comfortable in using it. Maybe it is just the placebo effect the sata has created in my mind. :)I will try to test this hardware and compare it with the V8.3 EXP GDC expresscard dock. To be used as an expresscard though, for laptops, it needs enough power from an AC/DC adaptor or a 4 pin molex from PS if it can cope with 75 watt. If it achieves same performance and 4 pin molex gives 75 watt I will purchase this hardware and sell it. but I need the expresscard modification :) It looks great. Is there a compatible case???
Hi +Panayiotis Palmiris
Well test it! 75w is a lot of power,,, but it shout be able to do it. Check the cables,, if they become varm.
Thank you for watching! :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) According to Wikipedia it should be ok. Molex connectors can be found repurposed, through use of an adaptor, to serve as six-pin PCI-E power connectors to make up for a lack of such connectors on a power supply.. And we know that the 6 pin PCI-E power connector is 75 watt. :)))))) I hope the riser can cope. Actually it is already sold on ebay with normal usb3 express card connector and 4 pin molex to 12V ac/dc adaptor but of very low amperage (70-85 USD) My idea already sold but their adaptor not strong for graphics cards. :) Will test with ATX PS. However usb3 is 4/5 of express card bandwidth so I expect a 56% of pci-e x16 performance. The next test is to see the performance over mpci-e. is it 56% or more?? :)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) It does not work with a laptop from usb3 connection. Only a desktop/server product. :( In case a dedicated cable is produced (laptops mpci-e or expresscard) that can make this riser connect to the laptop please inform us :) I think it should be investigated due to its low price. This mPCI-E connector does not fit in a laptops mpci-e slot.
Now im thinking of buying this
Hi DJZK Official
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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mainly usefull for mining riggs as those do not need alot (pcie) bandwidth
using only 1 pcie lane means your (max) bandwidth is x16 lower
if you dont care about restricted performance go ahead.
Hi Kaiser Schnitsel Sr.
Thank You very much! and other processing tasks,, Like I use it for GPU video rendering :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Thank you for this experiment. Naturally it takes a server specialist to think of that. Now I have a question: you connect the PCI 1X to the graphic card, have you tried to connect the graphic card directly to usb3, and see how the degradation will be? This will provide a way for connecting a completely closed server to an external gpu unit.
Hi Mamdouh Tawadros
Thank You very much! This has nothing to do with USB,, they have just used a cable with a number of leads,,, that happens to have some connectors you know,,, do not try to connect this to any USB port!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hey great video. I was wondering can i plug the usb cord in the usb port instead of the pci 1 slot?
Hi Dharma Kissoon
NO.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Actually, it makes no difference to the OS if the card is connected via PCIex 16x (direct) or PCIex 1x (extender).
The reason for the reduced performance is the reduced link bandwidth. However, this is heavily workload related and Applications that do not require a lot of communication between CPU and GPU (for example CUDA/OpenCL) should show virtually no difference. VM's should also see no difference.
Thanx for the good info.
My PlayHouse, I am wondering which version of the PCIe standard your testbed motherboard supports. If it is PCIe 2.0, for example, and your expansion card supports the newer 3.0, that could be a bottleneck on your performance seeing as your results did not change from 1x to 16x when you relocated the 1x USB connector. If your extended card came with documentation in another language outside of Chinese, you might check to see which specifications this expansion card supports, and it might give you a better reading in a testbed motherboard that supports PCIe version 3.0. Otherwise, thank you for sharing your experiment with us.
Hi Tyler Barton
The mothereboard is a GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3 witch seems to be with (All PCI Express slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)
The extended card did not come with any documentation :-/
I was suggested to try with a x4 two x16 instead, do you know anything about them?
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse, If all of your PCIe slots on this motherboard are PCIe 2.0, then your maximum throughput should be 5 gigatransfers per second, or 4 gigabytes per second per lane. With an additional three lanes on the transfer side, that should boost performance. However, I am not sure if these are made as I have never seen any. Also, if you are doing more of this sort of thing, you might want to get a modular power supply where you only plug in the connections you need and leave off the ones you do not. If you procure one of them, you have much less excess cable lying around the table or inside the computer case. Of course, I have yet to upgrade to one myself, but you are more on the cutting edge of technology!
Hi Tyler Barton
He He i doun't feel, cutting edge when i´m trying to install a 6 years old graphics card in an just as old server :-)
I found this on www.aliexpress.com - @2012044399.
But Friedrich Winkler said there was some nicer ones on Ebay,, those I have not yet been looked at.
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if u remove adapter from usb to mini pci, u can plug usb cable in usb 3.0 port?
Hi die0ralive
That will not work! this is not USB at all! the cable it a USB cable, but it is just a four wire cable, and they used USB cable.
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This is actually not meanth for people who want to do something like this... it’s for miners because mining doest need such high transfer rate from pci slot so it doesnt impact performance in that usecase...
Hi robbe jansens
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
hi sir,
My mobo GA 78LMT S2P and we both have PCI e Generation 2.0 like Mobo that you have GA Z68XP UD3P ...
can the NVME SSD be installed in the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot (use extender if needed)
please make a video about this?
because I want to add storage to my computer. ...
thank before
Sorry,, I have not tried that.
maybe you get information from friends around you
Thanks for video, this one is probable the only video on YT which tests PCIe1x and PCIe16X.
To sum it up:
Original results (GPU on board):
2D: 675
3D: 2113
PCIe1x:
2D: 671
3D: 1456
PCIe16x:
???
???
I did not catch it, can you please elaborate?
Thanks
Sorry,, this video is so old,, I do not remember, and my new servers has X16's and power now.
So when you build mining ring on servers ;)
btw: Invest some money on painting this first room. At first I thought that this your underground bunker ;)
Hi Hokus Pokus
ohh I wish I had an underground bunker,, that would be so cool.
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2.5 years later he's finally doing that :)
My motherboard pci-e x16 slot is damaged. If i use this extender on the pci-e x1 slot, would my graphics card work?
Hi Don Chu
IT shout,, You will loss a little performance,, as shown.
Thank you for watching! :-)
interesting how well deos computer run with out case? i found fan that lights up with heatsink today lol :) and looking for very good atx powersupply that has ide cables connectors and sata ones like above 400w
Hi +anikanbounty97
Air flow is not as good with out a case,, but it is a lot easier to play with the hardware.
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My PlayHouse i see that makes sense :)
Did it work with your server by using an external PSU though ? Did you have to short our external PSU to make the whole thing works ?
Is it mandatory to plug the SATA power into the adapter ?
Hi Top Lel
I never tried that, I went to install the cards in the servers instead.
Thank you for watching! :-)
do you have to use that 1x adaptor or can you simply put the usb cable to a usb 3 port on a motherboard? hence adding like 10 cards?
Hi +Saša Benčić
You have to use the 1x adaptor,,, This has nothing to do with USB. See it as a cable,, it just happens to be with connectors you know :-/
Thank you for watching! :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) ah ok... im planing on building a litecoin mining rig so looking to expand board capabilities by adding max ammount of cards on a single board!
Saša Benčić then don't use GPU's, you're wasting your money. Buy specialist mining hardware.
hi great video! i want to ask if this will work as an external gpu dock for a mini pc? i have a foxconn nt-a3500 and was wondering if i could plug this into the wifi adapter slot (PCIe)?
Hi grimoxz11
Thank You very much! I have not tried that,, but there are spicial mini PCI adapters available : amzn.to/2jmaMBZ
Thank you for watching! :-)
Moving a pci-express 1x adapter to a 16x slot will not increase bandwidth, as that is the result of the lowest common denominator.
Hi +John Rickard
I do think you are right, but the question is more if there is a 8x to 16x adapter available out there.
Thank you for watching! :-)
LOL just ordered the same thing from Ebay... and just now seeing your video ...
Hi
Hope you get yours up and running!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi I wanna build a dual cup gaming pc but the motherboards only have pci the white ones or pcie x8 at most what would you suggest if I was to go ahead with my project?
Hi +vSunnyDee
I do not believe that this is good for gaming! You lose to much speed in the only 1X. I think you are better of investing in a motherboard with 2 or more PCI-express 16X slots,,, and selling the old motherboard,, to get some of the investment back.
Thank you for watching! :-)
yeah i think thats what im gonna do :) thanks for the advice very help full :)
i need an m.2 extender cable for my 32gb/s m.2 slot ..do somebody know where to find something like this ???thanks
Hi LUCIANR81
HI something like this ? amzn.to/2dUVHqG
Thank you for watching! :-)
Let me know how it goes please.
hello,I wont to buy a dan case 4 (smallest mini itx gaming pc case ) and it dse not have an m.2 extender cable :(the m.2 needs a fan for cooling and I can not mount it if I do not poot somewhere alse in the case the m.2 ssd.so I don't know if I should buy the dan case 4 pc case if I can not cool the m.2 ssd.thanks
Do you know what daughter board I can use to power a port expander card . ( HP 487738-001 468405-002 24bay 3gb SAS expander card w/ 4x- 498426-001 SAS cable)
Maybe you will find this interesting : th-cam.com/video/OFarcZyqExc/w-d-xo.html
Will this adapter work better on the 16x slot? Thanks!
Hi +furulevi
No i do not see how that would make any difference,, It´s slow because it only has 1x and not 16x to work with.
Thank you for watching! :-)
I have a setup with one gpu and wanted to another...but the 2nd pcie slot was too close
So I used a similar usb riser and placed it in the 16x slot but it started burning and produced smoke...why do you think this happened?
Hi Omar G
uhh I do not have any idea,,, :-/
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hi can I use for a gpu because my mother board is old and only has a pci e x1 and want a x 16 so I can use a gtx 750 ti
sulaiman rohani you probably shouldn't... if it is an old mobo you probably have an old system and cpu, and you will waste some performance due to the limitations of the pcie x1
sulaiman rohani get a zotac GeForce GT 730, there's a 1x native one, it's not as strong as a GTX 750Ti but i have one, and it's not bad.
Great video
Hi joseph wasilewski
Glad you liked it.
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse a question, in your server room, what fire suppression system have you got installed, I need to install one for my server rack.
Hi joseph wasilewski
I do not have a fire suppression system, what are you looking at?
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automatic wall mounted co2 extinguisher but i do not think it is worth it, what do you think?
Hi joseph wasilewski
I'm probably a bad example, for it has been VERY close to getting a fire in my data center. when experimentation with UPS batteries.
But otherwise I think you're right. There is really not much that can burn in a data center.
the risk is very limited.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Great Idea! Will it work with a gtx 1050 Ti on a laptop? I have an HP Pavilion DV6-2171ee
Hi Bilal Ahmed
You will have to try ?
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You're Welcome!
Your Wifi card is most likely connected via mini PCIe (one lane). Don't confuse it with mSATA though, because they use the same socket but are not electrically compatible! The mSATA slots usually say "SSD" in silk screen on the motherboard.
This means you can remove your built-in Wifi card, use a USB one or ethernet and connect a graphics card instead. Keep in mind that mini PCIe connectors have a different shape than desktop ones, meaning this particular PCIe riser will not fit. Sockets compatible with laptop connectors are somewhat more expensive, starting at 40 bucks. Also, your card will definitely need power from an external ATX supply.
Question, using that extender it's possible to connect a standard PCI device on that extender and be detected on the OS ? Regards and thanks. :)
Hi Federacion Hip Hop
I think this is only PCI-e
Thank you for watching! :-)
hello,
I am using the RX 570 and I still have to plug the 8 pin power cord into the video card, right?
Hi Thành Nguyễn
Yes,, there is only 75watt coming in to the GPU from the PCI-e,, max! the rest it gets from 6 or 8 pin power 6-pin = 75W, 8-pin = 150W - glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Thank you for answering, my main board is riddled with 16x so I have to use this riser, its performance has been reduced, because I'm from Vietnam so I don't understand what you said in the video.
I keep missing it. what are the number differences for each test? what does it mean? and can someone simplify it for a newbe to this stuff by saying something around the lines of % difference of origional
HI
This video is rather old,, I can't remember what the F* I was doing,, but it worked, but you lose a lot of performances.
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse
I actually think it was a loss of 18% performance if I remember correctly. I recently bought a x3850 as I got an amazing price on a
auction. I am trying to put 2 Nforce 680i LT's in this machine as it has 24 cores and 128 GB of ram and I plan to do lots of fun stuff with it. As a side project I want it to run some video games to see if it will work. Your videos have been extremely fun to watch and useful!
HI slurp50s
Thank you very much!
Thank you for watching! :-)
so are the graphics cards running on x1 2.5 GB/s now or on x16 bandwidth?
It is only using an X1,, and the speed depends on the PCIe version,, But it if often not much of a bottleneck.
Does the Express extender work if you plug it into the usb instead of pci slot?
HiNO,,, it might be a USB cable, but this is in no way USB.
Thank you for watching! :-)
I am building myself winXp Pc for gaming but my dumb ass decided to also buy EAX sound card but I forgot the board I bought has only 1x PCIE x16 for gpu and 2x PCIE x1, will pcie x16 slot work with that sound card? The card has short-longer-short pins on it and manual says to put it into "PCI" slot, now I am not sure if PCI-E from this extender would work with it.. I have a feeling its not compatible :(
You might be able to see on the sound card if it actually uses all the pins,, it might use some of them,, and then you may be in trouble.
@@MyPlayHouse Well idk about pins, I educated myself a bit more on the matter and it seems the PCI is compatible with the really old stuff and is made different, like pins are more spaced out and its just not like the express standard so its not compatible. I see there are some PCI-E x1 to PCI extenders, but they are like 30 to 60 bucks and the cheap ones at around 10 to 20 tend to be of a poor quality so it may even arrive broken, typical china :D
This was what I need
Hi Piotr Doryń
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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Is it the same performance? Sorry I'm kinda newbie about these things.
You do lose a little bit. I hear that this does not always work with the newest cards.
Do you have servers that have an x16 pcie slot? I have 2 x8 slots in mine.
Hi +Doomed ForLife
Funny you ask,,,No i do not,, but four hours ago i orderes one for my x3650 M2 or M3 on Ebay.
Thank you for watching! :-)
There is definitely a bottleneck using a PCI-E 1x port. From the tests i have looked at you need at least a 8x slot to properly use a modern video card.
Hi +BlueFoxTV
Yes i do not get Max performances this way,, But i do get some performances.
Thank you for watching! :-)
+BlueFoxTV sadly the motherboard im getting that supports quad core cpu only has 4x pci 3 slot but 8x agp slot wich i need for the 4670
How about Mini PCIE to PCIE 16X? I'm going to try it with my laptop, need your advice master My Playhouse...
I think there are way better videos on doing that,,, I think it works.
Thanks
There is no video for that, I couldn't find which is using mini PCIE - usb 3.0, all of them using Mini PCIE - HDMI. I'm looking for advice, could it be possible using USB 3.0 (connected from device to laptop mini pcie, not using usb laptop port --> often makes miss communication)
hey, I'm trying what you're talking about, I'll let you know if it worked or not in about a week or two ;)
Thanks ondra kostik for answering me.
pretty old video but try to use minisas it got atleast 4 lanes
Hi dbmaster46446
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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@@MyPlayHouse haha absolutely all of them, and your lack of English skills make them kinda cute :D i even got all my friends to subscribe to you
but did you ever try a GPU on minisas?
Can you tell me if you can crossfire with pciex16(to pciex1) and pcie x1. I don't mind about the speed, as long 2 gpu can crosfire.
Hi
No I am sorry, I do not know, And I do not have two cards,, so I can't even try.
Thank you for watching! :-)
i think u cant since you only have the bandwidth of 1x and for nvidia u atleast need 8x for sli
HI crashniels
Thanx for that info!
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I loved the videoThanks for making sjch s good video
Hi Rishav Sarkar
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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I have psu... Pcie usb 3.0... And i have laptop with usb 3.0 port or slot... What i need to do?... Connect usb 3.0 directly or what?
Hi Mohd. Harunnizam Baharon
This is a USB 3.0 cable,, but it has nothing to do with USB,, it just the 4 wire cable they used.
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse ooo... Okay... Welcome... Well... I need to buy new pc
Would be better if the adapter had a X8 instead of a mini x1 because is too slow.
Also they need to make M.2 adapter to X16
Hi Fernando Salazar
Thank You very much! that is available!
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse do they have Risers X8 to X16, where do they sell them?
I like the idea of a riser like this, but at least a X4 or X8 would do a much better job, is kind of pointless a X1 obviously is going to be much slower.
As an idea feedback, I personally think the motherboard manufacturers should just make all PCI's into a PCIe X20, because that way would be faster, even the ram slots could be replace with two PCIe X20 which would be way faster, that would definitely enhance gaming performance with GDDR5 PCIe X20 much faster than DDR3.
And a Motherboard with built in 2GDDR5 ram for better gaming, No DVI No VGA less people are starting to use those with the new HDMI TV's, so only makes the motherboard more bulky and more expensive to make, 3HDMi ports is ideal.
And protection in USB's for short circuit because they use the USBkiller to destroy PC's, so the USB ports do have be much enhanced now a days with all this new unsafe devices.
Hello, I'm thinking, will this device help me to connect a graphic card to my laptop (by PCIe)? I wanna know more about it. Thanks :)
Hi AbrahamG312
There are other cards available that will help you do just that.
Thank you for watching! :-)
its only for video cards ? or i can use for old pci card fireware
I am sure other cards would also work,, but also sure that not all card will work. It depends if the card can work with just x1 or it needs more.
Do you think this will work on an all in one pc ? Since All in one pcs are like laptops will it work if i did it like this ?
Sorry I do not know.
@@MyPlayHouse That's ok thanks for the reply btw ,
Thank you for seeing this comment!!! Nice video btw
Hi
I see all comments on all my videos,,, TH-cam presents me with all new comments :-)
Thank you very much!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Did you test Blender on that riser?
No I did not.
result PCI-E 16X [2113] > PCI-E 1X [1456]I think SLI with USB 3.1. I think it will get better.
1:27 min PCI-E 16X
2D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 675
3D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 21136:48 min
Chip Type: ATI display adapter (0x689C)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Adapter String: ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series
Bios Information: 113-C00001-102Total Availabe Graphics Memory: 2774 MB
Dedicated Video Memory: 1024 MB
System Video Memory: 0 MB
8:35 min2D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 671
3D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 1456
10:13 min3D Graphics Mark - ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 1461
Thank You!
thank you for this setupe im going to buy this liked the video
Good luck, with this!
Do there will be a performance losses by using it in my pc ?? I will use it 710ddr5 2gb graphics cards
Hi Technical World
Thank You very much! Yes there will,, there is no magic. But it is not that great. arstech.com/install/cms-display/ste_spdtst1.html
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So does the extender slow down the speed of the GPU?
Hi Dmitriy Steps
by only using one of the 16 PCI busses.
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Will it work if i put my wifi card in my pcie x16 and i put my gpu in the extender (cuz the gpu is too big it covers the pcie x1 and i need to put my wifi card)
Hi Nik :D
I am afraid I do not know :-/ glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I would suggest a PCI-E riser cable instead, this is the much faster, and in some cases, safer way of going about what you speak of. The Amazon link below, is a Thermaltake PCI-E riser cable, it is shielded for additional protection against crosstalk. I hope this 2 minute comment helped you out.
Recommend PCI-E riser cable: www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Gaming-Black-Extender-AC-053-CN1OTN-C1/dp/B06Y5YNGDJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539235410&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=thermaltake+pcie+riser&dpPl=1&dpID=31TeoRqVanL&ref=plSrch
Can I use this with a sound card as well?
Sorry I do not know.
do i need to use 6 pins for the pci-e extender
Yes,, if the card need 6 or 8pin,, that is needed.
ASROCK VGS3 USB3, r9-270x on the pci-e, still have 1 slot, pci normal slot free, can I use this adaptor to crossfire my secund r9 270 o.c.?
Hi +Alex Siqueira (Jack's)
I am sorry,, I do not have the faintest idea if that would work for you :-) But these boards are so cheap that you could try :-) - amzn.to/1UWpjzN
Thank you for watching! :-)
I know but since I got so much cooling and also a airflow with heatsy over the mrvs I'm prety confortable... You see, my readings from the last two years are: SSD 120GB/ CPU FX-8320e 4,375/4,500ghz 1,75V Core temp: 26-51°/ Systin1 38-58° - Mobo temperature 35-59° - GPU 1250MHZ / 15050 - Temps 30-59° - Memory 2400MHZ 1x8bg Cas10 O.C 2000Mhz/1000Mhz cas 9/11/11 1,0v Fbsdram: 1:4 Multiplier X250 FBS: 2500 2 years alredy and prime is still running smoth, those new "e" processors are a little bit trick but when you update your bios up to 2015 compatibility has increased too...
if you translate it, you will be able to check the results, unfortunetly the review was from 2014 and back there I was running the fx-6300 processor, overbr.com.br/forum/showthread.php?t=47986... If you are able to properly cool down this Asrock mobo, it is and become superior to many asus ma5- due the fact this one had support officialy to ddr3 1866 oc, up to 2000mhz right now for aplications... Low power consumption as and you can see on the benchmark results high performance, better performance...
Hi Alex Siqueira
That is an AMD processor,, how much do you get out of it,,in like CPU benchmark?
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+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) I really not pay attention to CPU benchmark, Only about monitoring it, ad yeah always working with AMD/Radeon since ever, like to overclock.... But since I just cleaned my radiators and change my termal, we can give it a try, what CPU benchmark would you recoment as a good one for tests? Is there a benchmark that is not designed for RADEON or INTEL?
Hi Alex Siqueira
I use this one : www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm
and would like to hear your CPU scorer ?
Thank you for watching! :-)
Will it work for my laptop? If I connect usb directly to my laptop's usb port without riser board, will it work?
Hi TFCSDCzy The Flying Cockroach 飞天蟑螂
NO,, this is not USB,, see it as a wire,, not USB.
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+ My PlayHouse But if i connect it to an PCI-E Slot will it?
Can you connect 2 video cards?
sir can i use it for gaming in my pc with gt 710 ddr5 2gb graphics card ??? if yes so is there any performance losses ??
Hi MOVIE PLEX
Yes You can use this for gaming, and yes you do not get 100% performances.
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nice video :) very helpful
Hi +gavin GIGGLES
Cool!
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you are not looking at the camera dude or is it dud?
Hi Gerald Nordahl
I use to look at the flip out screen,, I have become better at not doing that.. it´s F**** hard not to. :-)
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if i cut my gpu adapter to get 1x , will my gpu work?
Hi +saleh musmari
Make sure you know what you are doing before you cut any thing.
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So could I really use this as a render farm?
Hi TeNpO Vine
Yes I do believe so.
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Could.a SLI be done with this?
I really do not know,,
can you plug the extender into a pci slot?
Hi Ryan Barrinuevo
I do think it has to be an PCI-e slot.
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thank you
did you try it from a normal usb 3 port ?
Hi Tony Baines
NO this has nothing to do with USB. Just see it as a widely available cheap cable.
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can i use this for my laptop to attach graphic card?
There is options for this,, but much depends on your laptop.
@@MyPlayHouse sir i have HP elite book 8440p
Thx for the Benchmark
Does will Good result if use for PCi express 16 3.0 GPU card
dont forget to make the ground potetial even with this two devices.
Hi Frank dePoint
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
The slot you use is 8x not 16x, size is 16x but it works as 8x :)
Thank You!!
Can u use it to put extra gpu in your system?
I would expect so.
will it work on my hcl laptop if i remove the wifi and put pci instead of my wifi combo card need help plzzz
Hi GYANI BABA
Sorry,, I do not know..
Thank you for watching! :-)
Yes, it works that way. You can search on youtube how it's done.
very nice
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Can I put something like that on my Laptop?
I have seen, something similar for the tiny connections inside laptops!
This whole place is very PeeWee-Herman-esque... and I think thats cool! That man got the shaft man, seriously, the world owes him.
Hi @ChadDidNothingWrong
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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sir can i use it for gaming with gt 710 ddr5 2gb graphics card ???
You could although a gt 710 is not a very powerful card even though it is gddr5. If your looking for a low power graphics card I would go with at least a gt730 (29watts) gtx 750(50 watts) gt 1030 (30 watts) gtx 1050 (75 watts) best low power gpu I've ever had was a gt 1030 it can play basically everything at 1080p (at least on low settings) and it sips power. Really good for sff pc's! But if you can afford a little more go with the 1050/1050ti.
Sorry I do really not know..
what the mean 1to16? it 16 or 1 ?
Depends on what end you look at!
The funny thing is he should used an pci x16 extender so you would get 16 speed instead of 1 speed
Hi Colin Stienke
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Does it work with laptops becouse i have seen people getting this (the link below) and people are using a new graphicscard with a "old" laptop and was wondering if that model you got in the video is compatible with the pri port in laptops (example the pci port for the internet) ? ( www.banggood.com/EXP-GDC-Laptop-External-PCI-E-Graphics-Card-p-934367.html )
Hi +stilloading adventures
I would thing it can work,, but I have now tried,, It looks to be a good product.Thank you for watching! :-)
+stilloading adventures I got the same v8.3 EXP GDC with expresscard. It works at 1x 2.0 link speed (5 GT/s) if you enable Gen 2 on your bios options. If you get an Nvidia card then you can also use your own laptop screen instead of an external (optimus technology). Generally with eGPU I have passmark performance test score of about 71% compared to desktop 16 lanes installation. On 3dmark06 (directX 9) I had a 94% the performance of 16 lanes installation.
+Panayiotis Palmiris
ahh that was very helpful thank you
+Panayiotis Palmiris but does it fit the mini pci port that's inside laptops ?
+stilloading adventures My Lenovo T420 has also a PCI-E slot underneath the laptop. If you remove the cover then you can install it there. Most people fix the cable with a tape on the laptop so it stays in place. There is a youtube video with exactly the same configuration (I think video was made with a dell laptop and exp GDC dock).
can a pci x1 in slot to x16 interface ?
Hi Uwe W
I have never seen anything using x1,,, I have seen x4. but yes if you have an x1 card, you can put it in an x16 slot.
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse negativ, my x16 card riser is gone man... 😑
Burned up...
Does GPU run with USB 2.0?
Hi Jesús García Gutiérrez
It just uses a cable with wires,, and that happens to be a USB 3.0 cable,,, otherwise this has nothing to do with USB.
Thank you for watching! :-)
sir can i use it for gaming in my PC ???
Hi Technical World
It might work! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
oh wow! tnk god i watched this! i was asbout to buy a 1x to 16x riser for gaming!
+Sean Eredia
An x4 or x8 to x16 would do a little better:-)
My PlayHouse i might just buy the 16x to 16x ribbon adapter tnx!