Why Did The Communist Regimes Fail In Eastern Europe?
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- Why did the Communist regimes fail In Eastern Europe?
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For people who lived in a communist regime - do you miss it? Were there any good sides to living in those times? Do you think you're living a better life today?
Living in SFR Yugoslavia, I have to say that it was the best country to live in. It wasn't a tyranny as the West says so.
However, everyone opposed to socialism and the Party was sent to Goli otok (a Yugoslav gulag). Education and healthcare were free, the police (militia) was effective and the country was safe.
However everything started to fall apart after the Winter Olympics in Sarajevo in 1984. But I know that other Eastern Europeaners (who were allied with the USSR) were very very poor and didn't have as much freedom as we had.
I know that Czechoslovaks, Hungarians and Romanians were very very poor. When they came to Yugoslavia during summer vacation, they would sell almost all of their belongings just to make a profit and go home. And today, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary are one of the most prosperous Eastern European countries.
I think the Yugoslav socialist/communist model was the best one that existed, but the ethnic hatred that started to boil again after Tito's death is another problem.
@@Forkester Thank you for your side of the story. Would you say you lived a better life than now, despite not having all the goods that are now available?
I was born in 89'. My parents, and all people I know and where living during communism has told me that It was nightmare, stagnation and black times. We hate communism and all ideologies basing on it. Today we have anniversaries of shooting to coal mine workers where 7 people where killed(or yesterday was anniversary shooting to shipyard workers where 40 people where killed). We would never want to go back to that times. Communism is bad ideology always finally coming to brutal force againt citizens. Greetings from Poland.
I miss it.
@@TheInfographicsShow now with "democracy" we have just fools & thieves in government. Army is literally some guys in bicycles. Before yeltsin sabotage we had 300,000 men ready to fight, ballistic rockets & our nation wasnt poor eitherm
Want to hear a Joke
At one of USSR's bread lines during the Perestroika, a man in the crowd is mumbling to himself. "No bread, no milk, no meat, what a shame". Two policemen walking the beat hearing his mumbling walk up to him, and say:
"Citizen, if you said that 40 years ago you'd be shot, so just shut up and stand in line like everybody else"
As the policemen leave, the man turns back to the crowd and says:
"Not only we don't have bread or milk, but I was just told we ran out of bullets too."
Well this sums it up:THIS MAN is why communism ended
XD
You, my sir, have earned a like.
This is a great joke sir,we're sending this to everybody for equality.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Stalin: *“so today I’m performing a social experiment”*
Stalin: its just a prank bro
Thats america... They are trying to spread capitalism
@[redacted] • 90 years ago bro he isn't owning fallout, he is the leader of bethesda, also who tf doesn't know what fallout is about
R u really todd howard
It’s just a social experiment bro
I'm sure there will be nothing but calm and reasonable discussion in the comments.
Bryan Fire Florida P.R Ball Indeed there's nothing political. Only uneducated swines whose only 'arguments' come from video games and memes
Potato DIE DIE DIE KILL ALL COMMIE SCUM!!!! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!!!!!!!
I expect a Highly intellectual conversation.
Frankly I’m glad no one actually takes communism seriously. It’s a terrible and immoral system. I don’t think people realize just how miserable it would be to live in a communist countey
Personally I'd love a future where I could do whatever I want while my robot assistant does everything from wiping my ass, to mowing the lawn. Though that's not communism, that's just a Utopian future that'll get ruined when my robot decides to rip my intestines out.
USSR: I fear no man, but that thing
That thing: Basic Economics
USSR: It scares me.
this comment is underrated
top comment material.
Meh still got some shit done.
Joshua Diebel through slavery, sure. if you eliminate worker protections, and have no economic regulations you can temporarily boost efficiency even if you don't have competition to refine things.
Otto Pike Two of the biggest promoters ( though now not true communism, and the US is not a true democracy and barely a republic) are now world powers. Shit happened, shit got done. Break an egg, Machiavelli etc. Do I agree with any of it? No. But here we are. Stating obvious.
You touched on how it failed but focused more on explaining how the Soviet Union "wasn't communism" but it was the closest a society of that time could get. If you give one entity too much control, corruption is inevitable. Weather it be the state, leader or the people. You need a system that self checks itself to limit power to minimize the damage and prolong the populous and their ability to pursue happiness.
Indeed, comrade
@@sunnex474 on the way to get to communism the Soviet Union promised that to get there (a moneyless stateless society) you would need to first have totalitarian socialism of course no county can ever get past that
@@sunnex474 you misunderstood the assignment, fascist
@@-p2349 it doesn’t need one
How about China
As a Hungarian I have to state that the victims of the Holocaust and the victims of Communism are not treated equally in the West at all. One should take into account that Stalin sent way more people in the Gulag camps than Hitler did in the Third Reich. He is responsible for the death of ~20 million people. IMHO this negligence is caused just by the fact that most Western people (except for the Eastern Germans) did not live a single minute under Communist rule. In the Hungary of the early 50s, too, you had to shut up if you didn't want to be taken away at night by the black car. In Russia, the situation was even worse in the era of Stalin. I have to write this because my mother's family, too, was torn apart by the Communist regime shortly after the fall of the Hungarian revolution in 1956.
The victims of the Holocaust were killed because they were Jews, Roma etc. The victims of the Communism were killed or jailed because of their political opinion, because of their aristocratic descent (their properties were taken away by the state, of course), because of being "kulaks" (peasants with large estates) or just because they were not necessary for the regime any more. You should read "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch" from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn about the Russian prison camps. The paragraphs of the Soviet penal code of that time were numbered, as usual, but the political crimes were marked with letters instead of numbers...
IMHO both genocides should be treated equally. I know of someone who was actually pursued by both regimes. After having survived the Holocaust, the Communists also looked after him before he finally left Hungary in 1956.
As a Hungarian I did not even forget the events on the Tienanmen Square. Although I do respect Chinese culture, it's completely unacceptable for me even if just a single man gets killed because of his/her political opinion, not ~10 000 as it may have happened.
Its crazy how much importance people put on racial motivated hate while victims of social class hate are laughed at.
i rather get arrested for opposing the government than get arrested for my race
@@zuippy845 which race are you?
@@juliogutierrez5256 asain
Ww2 killed 90 millions people or sat 3 percent of world population and 70 percent of jews population. Still clowns like you justified it with communist rant. Shame on you!!!!!
"COMMUNISM IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAILURE!"
-Liberty Prime (Fallout 3)
“DESTROY ALL CHINESE COMMUNISTS! ANCHORAGE WILL BE LIBERATED!” -Liberty Prime (fallout 4)
So is capitalism, capitalists talk about freedom, but they have no freedom.
F the usa communism the real kind of it shall rise
@@UniquebyVik No thanks, I prefer to eat.
Double Channel go starve
Yeah but Stalin dies in 1953, so he didn't rule the USSR until 1991. You think that it was all stalinism?
@Blaze Plays no, in fact, Khrushchev had a policy of de-Stalinization
Blaze Plays somwhat not all
Blaze Plays well that’s sad
@Blaze Plays not true, Mikhail Gorbachev let the people have some freedoms, something stalin would never do.
Stalin took over where Lenin left off.
These people weren't russians,but bolshevik jewz.
Russians were equally victims of a greater enemy.
the fight is about principalities, light vs dark.
I suggest reading some books and learning who has ruled the world since French Revolution lol.
Maybe then you'll understand...
Edit: If i know any better, americans might get insta triggered and start calling me anti-semite etc... sorry Ad Hominems don't work on me, i'm Jew,German,Russian;Swedish Estonian :D
What is the difference between Communism and Stalinism?
Stalinism had Stalin.
Underrated comment
Exactly. They're the same thing.
@@buffaloman9671 no, Just look at Marx's policies and philosophy THEN see Stalin.
@@michaelbilotta1567 Communism was expected to occur in the heated cities of London and Paris, it never occured, as ideologies go no one has "achieved true communism" because greed is an inherent trait.
@@Evan-cv2ws Actually, search the Paris Commune.
*Liberty Prime Intensifies*
*Target: ALL CHINESE COMMUNISTS*
Better dead than Red.
*Begins throwing Mini-nukes*
By killing you, I am saving you from a fate worse than death.
*Death is a preferable alternative to Communism*
DEMOCRACY IS NON NEGOTIABLE
*COMMUNISM IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF EVIL*
"communism is the definition of failure"
-Liberty Prime, 2277
What is China's state in fallout?
Medicsk Maoist
@@adriankepler5254 OK thank you
Only capitalist that can be trusted is a dead capitalist
-Collectron
Medicsk lol is this like liberty prime younger brother who forever lives in his shadow
Ever had communist food no? Nether have they
King Fedora that was clever props to u
Well duh yes. My country is communism.
MagenticArcanine when 3 famines in 100 years after devastating wars is being made into a joke cause the us never seen war and not like the west had famines during ww2 and afterwards but hey lets all be hypocrites sooo the nazis are also very nice cause rockets and stuff lol
@@kevinprinz3204 the US has never seen war? Since 1775, the US has had maybe 20 or so years where it hasn't been in armed conflict. We just dont lose often, if at all (Vietnam being the gray area there). And we are capitalists so... makes us pretty resilient to general famine.
@@benjamintim3542 Have you ever had a war take place inside your own borders? That's what I meant by seeing war. All the wars you have fought were outside of the US. Most of them useless. Also talk about being capitalist and having Famines. India, All of Africa, The Great Depression, Indonesia. You see the point
Ha ha funny joke, the Soviets have never fallen, gulag for you.
Gulag for *US
World History With Dan take away all of his possession's being his bed and half eaten loaf of bread
World History With Dan same
They failed. Communism caused that why Eastern Europe is corrupted and poor.
World History With Dan Good Job My young friend
Because from an idealist point of view it looks like the best thing since sliced bread, but when put into practice it has failed every time. It's a great example of the term "Too good to be true."
Being raised in a country that was part of the soviet-block, it's crazy to me why so many people like communism on the west.
I think the Ideal system would be a mix, pure communism (that means no state, so by definition the URSS wasn't communist) isn't the best, but mixed It can be good.
@@fosterrico5546 yeah, literally fake communists. The Soviet Union being marxist makes as much sense as North Korea being called democratic Republic
@@fosterrico5546 the free and equal stuff attracts them. It'd literally wanting assets without the risk
@@fosterrico5546 I think they like the idea of communism as marks n engles wrote it, all Equaly free to become new men and weman. Not stalins horrible starving being shot version. Think it was trosky who called stalin gravedigger of the revolution.
It's unfair to only blame Stalin, Leninism is a huge can of worms on its own.
Let alone many years of Brezhnev's stagnation.
that is why trotsky should have been the leader. He was a meshivik
@@juanrosado9713 Trostky for Permanent Revolution and Globalism, while Stalin need to counter German Fascism, turn Russian Communism into Fascism State
Seize the memes of production
Nice
"The biggest flaw was focus on productivity" (looks at 10 million dead Ukrainians) yeah, sure man
Making a country starve to death.
Y'all talking about 1930s only
Post WW2 period - **laughs**
@@sooryan_1018 i mean didn’t Vladimir Putin move his troops into Ukraine killing people in the process
Also that’s another reason why Estonia joined Nato and USA starting funding Poland
Hol up wasn't it 2 MILLION Ukranians?
@@sooryan_1018 from the few sources I read it’s 6-10. But looks like there are varying opinions on the true number of deaths related to the famine
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Stalin's version of communism was predicted fifty years before communism prevailed and it was predicted by anarchists. The belief that a dictatorship must prevail in order to bring communism and when that happens the dictatorship will quietly step down from power, thus establishing a stateless society, is rather naive. Anarchists were right on that and this is why they separated themselves from communists.
"It's just a social experiment bro!!!"
-Karl Marx
Eastern Europe: We will stay loyal to the USSR
U.S.A: Join the West, we have cookies!
Eastern Europe: Sorry Soviets, but we need democracy...
We from romania are cool with democracy, even tough the politicians are corrupt and its migration. But nobody is perfect
Yeeeeah, I'm sure the US funding Solidarity in Poland had nothing to do with it. I'm sure Gorbachev's replacing Eastern European leaders with Russian leaders had nothing to do with it.
/sarcasm.
@RoastWorthy yes, it was. It arose in the 1980s when Gorbachev's disastrous policies were antagonising Eastern Europe. The guy who posted this comment doesn't deserve a detailed rebuttal - his argument basically boils down to "eastern europeans greedy and cheap." The best critiques of the USSR come from communists.
Awesome analysis
Sorry soviets we are hungry and need food*
Did you know that Marx told Engel about his ideas to implement in his factory and after implementing in Engel’s factory, went broke in few months.
"Hi, I am an East German Citizen and I would like to go for vacation to Belgium". Government: You go to jail!
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Suggestion : Communism vs Democracy, Which is better and their Differences
Trevor GTA ???? That is not seperate ideologies.
This should be a fun comment section
Yes, when communists here opened their mouth, i feel my brain cells commiting suicide.
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Darren Atm Ok were gonna talk about communism communism I'd the best economy system existed cuz it's good for people who want to break their own u know it the police cuf
Maxxx Strong YES!
Communism is one of those things that's great on paper but terrible in practice..
Except that if you look at the history of Russia before and after the revolution it actually didn't entirely fail. Before the revolution Russia was a feudalist country with vastly oppressed peasants with almost no rights or quality of life. After the revolution, the system of government was still authoritarian largely due to the fact that most Russians were uneducated and could not read or write, let alone vote; however, you'll find that the quality of life was vastly improved for the average peasant even if still not great. Russia also was able to industrialize faster than any other nation in history, largely due to not dealing with inefecienes of capitalism. Of course later when Stalin took over things stopped improving. Democracy in Russia was never meant to be because of the illiteracy and lack of infrastructure for any voting or media to be possible. However, a revolution in a capitalist nation with technology of today and an at least somewhat educated population could very well succeed; although I think the chances of this would be better if workers owned the means of production instead of the state i.e. worker coops. No disrespect to you though I used to think the same way before I became a socialist. I hope that anyone who unlikely reads this can at least be more open minded even if they don't change their minds.
@@jacobware8661 pretty sure you sound like bixch if you said that face to face
@@jacobware8661
Like post-Tito Yugoslavia and even that failed due to mismanagement and disorganization and all the subsidies in the world couldn't save them?
@@shauncameron8390 I don't know too much about Yugoslavia specifically but my general understanding is that it failed due to becoming a welfare state after the government having to support failing businesses (coops) and eventually running out of money.
You confused Facism with Authoritarianism. You can be an authoritarian communist and not be a facist. You guys really need to step it up.
Frederick Röders Are you confused? Authoritarian communism is a type of communism just like Maoism, Stalinism, Marxism, Anarcho-communism, Leninism, or any of the other numerous types of communism. Just because it doesn't match Marx's ideas doesn't mean it's not a type of communism. If you every took a political theories class youd know that. I can link you some if you'd like so you can better understand what seems to be your ideology.
"Authoritarian communism is a type of communism just like Maoism, Stalinism, Marxism, Anarcho-communism, Leninism, or any of the other numerous types of communism." Ok so communism failed then, good finally we all agreed on something.
@ Ryan Rodriguez
I think you missed Marx's definition of communism for your own. At best, the USSR was an authoritarian socialist state. Is authoritarian socialism mutually exclusive with fascism?
Can you think of a regime that was both authoritarian socialist and fascist? I'll give you a hint:
The Allies fought a total war against them for the freedom of millions.
Note: I'm not in any way endorsing socialism or communism.
Theaksten There is a very stark difference between Authoritarian Communism and Fascism. That is motivation. Fascism is under a guise of Nationalism while Authoritarian Communism is under thr guise of the destruction of the wealthy class. An Authoritarian Communism doesn't follow Marx's ideology perfectly. But that doesn't make it any less Communism. All 3 major Authoritarian Communism regimes people are familiar with being Communist China, the USSR, and North Korea were not following Marxism at all but were simply their interpretation of communist.
Frederick Röders, Theaksten
I think you should look into the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, as you basically give the perfect example of it by dismissing every major example of a communist state ultimately being authoritarian as "not truly communist."
If you really want to go by that, there has never really been a "true communist" country, and there never will be because human nature won't allow for it. The only place where "communism" has actually truly functioned is in small groups united by a religion or philosophy, such as in monasteries, convents, kibbutz, etc., and even then there is typically enough of a hierarchy within the group to question if they would pass a "communism purity test."
A lot of commies are upset
@Joseph McGrath A system where people have no private property, the government controls everything
@Joseph McGrath fuqing rekt kid
@@3000bigrandy "socialism is when government does stuff, the more stuff it does the more socialist it is, and if it does a great deal of stuff its kamyunism" my man cracked the system
@@meowmrrrp Then every single country is socialist because a country runs by the government doing stuff.
Its MUCH easier to be a Communist in a Capitalist country, than a Communist in a Communist country.
Pretty much.
Ig so
Because Eastern Europeans as much as they are stereotyped as the opposite were smart and realised that as an ideology it was a failure and on a political level was no different from imperialism. Anyone who views communism as a system that works and isn't prejudiced isn't human
A doctor didn't make the same amount as a construction worker, all doctors that had same experience made the same amount. Get your facts straight. This is a big misconseption. My family lived in the Soviet Union and the more education you had, experience and knowledge the higher paid you were also depending on how valuable your job was , they also had listed jobs that paid more because they were more in demand and you applied for them.
Gorbachev was the most Glasnost.
How did they forget about Gorbachev?
World History With Dan
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ThePhillyfire1986 indeed
Because Gorbachev only hasted what was already going to happen. The USSR was doomed from the onset.
DasBubba I agree with that notion but I think in any discussion of the fall Gorbachev should come up because he was such a massive figure in its fall.
Edit: Because he was mostly responsible for how it fell (mostly peaceful).
Too bad he got you first.
This was... surprisingly fair???? *NANIIIIIIII??!!!!!!!!!!*
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nani lol. what is this.
Nanny
Hahaha good joke
Relevant Relevancy It is though. They are not the same thing.
A classes, wealthless society, is a deluded idea for people who have never seen the outside world.
I love the fact that he gradually progress is content from not only comparisons but to detailed stories and very researched-based explanations of things as this the history keep going great job
Capitalism gives you the choice to fail or succeed
In communism you just fail
gives certain people the choice to succeed. others are the working class.
Depends on what you understand by " succeed " . Our current system requires the exploitation of severely underpaid workers
No, no it doesnt. The middle and high class get that choice, the low and working dont.
@@a.p3877Yes, yes it does. Consider under Communism no one gets that choice.
Communism, no thank you
This comment and your pfp is sending mixed messages
@@ThotslayFeetusdeletus
I didn't even look at the pf, thanks for pointing that out. Lol 😂👍
Your pfp doe...
@@sooryan_1018 well because communism is a joke his pfp is a joke too
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 so people enjoyed the joke? Irony coming from the Western people like you
Fun fact: Communism was envisioned as an ideology that would make Democracy more Stronger.
“BUt tHat wAsN’T ReAL cOmmUniSM”
Right bc it doesn’t include rainbows and unicorns
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To prove that the communism implemented wasnt real marxist communism. All a person needs is one single example of how that system conflicts with the system in the manifesto. Geuss what there are multiple conflicts just like what was shown in the video. So the claim is completely valid. Your sarcasm is misplaced
@Arexme Communism, by definition, wouldn't even have a government hierarchy, so it really hasn't been tried yet. That's not a joke, that's fact.
@@fatpenguin7736
And would have turned into Somalia due to that lack of hierarchy.
@@fatpenguin7736 a govermentless society is guaranteed failure
Things like this drive me nuts, i don't understand how anyone can support communism when you'd be just cog a massive machine. At least in capitalism we can work, spend money, think freely. Freedom is a basic human right.
Yeah, freedom to either starve or choose your own master to which to work for with the hope of sometimes maybe you'll get promoted. I love the freedom of being robbed daily of 10 hours while making less than a quarter than what my manager makes.
@@ragreff5603
You know that in capitalism, you're free to start your own business, right?
It's not capitalism's fault that you're lazy and ignorant.
That's because you have less than a quarter of the responsibilities of your manager.
@@ragreff5603 You just starve under communism there’s no choice there 😂
I expect this comment section will be full of peaceful and constructive discourse.
Nope, its full of two opposing sides.
@@rogerlast8959 r/whoosh
@@pratheekbhat6595 like him or hate him, he is spreading straight fax.
DEATH TO COMMUNISM
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Video starts off with typical socialist disclaimer: Ackshually, true communism has never been tried
No 5 countries are still communist and 3 are politically rules lot of times by communist
technolung well technically it’s not wrong. it’s only ever been used to seize power and favour from uneducated and starving workers.
@@cool4556 capitalist pig spotted
Mahesh Kumar i’m a communist. i’m defending communism as an ideology, but it’s never been done.
@@cool4556 ok
Because liberty prime said so
Wise words
Liberty prime your a bold one
Interestingly enough in China the class separation is one of the worst in the modern world. While there are wealthy businessmen almost akin to lords and dukes of the middle ages there is also many peasants that don't even have access to plumbing.
I hate the, "Nobody has ever achieved REAL communism yet". If all the other practices in the past were just "slight" versions of communism, I can't imagine what true communism looks like.
Who remembers waiting 6 hours at the shop
I have family in Cuba - which is communist - who wait up to 12 hours in the line for chicken meat. Another thing to notice is that lines can get really violent there. I’m taking about people stabbing each other and fights occurring.
Dope Cat Yep...
@@csm5040 can you explain further?
@@annaworthington9522 Have you ever seen how people sleep in lines for highly demanded products like tickets for a show of a specific celebrity or to get the latest model of a given cellphone?
Well, in Cuba that happens during the sales of basic supplements
Implying that “true communism” doesn’t inevitably always convert to capitalism or Stalinism after a certain amount of time
Sees the word communist *CLICKS*
Costin 2.0 Yes, comrade
Bryan Fire Florida P.R Ball probably about how they have better “missiles” and “rocket ships”
The problem with automation is, if everything is automated, what is left for humans to pursue? If robots can perform surgery or create works of art or even devise policy, what role will humankind play in the world anymore? Marx himself stated that we humans find fulfillment in our work. If we leave all the work to robots, we essentially write ourselves out of the equation. What then becomes humankind's purpose for being?
Ideas, Philosophy, Psychology, Technology, Politics, Entertainment, and Science. These are all things that can be built upon indefinitely.
No. No one truly wants to be equal. Nature made us that way.
No, not possible. Once automation starts churning out templated goods and people start doing whatever they want, then the artisans will begin producing non-templated goods that other people will desire.
Sure you can hypothetically have a basic blanket or a computer-printed house, but that guy over there has a hand-woven blanket... that woman over there has a hand-built house. The goods and services produced by living humans will gain heightened value, and value means commerce. Artisans will become the new rich, and create a wealth disparity.
Why? Because humans are competitive. People will always covet. People are individuals, and will want custom-made goods and services to fit their needs and desires, not a one-size-fits-all template.
Communism/Socialism gives an incredible amount of power to the elites and strips it from ordinary people. So the ideology will never die when you have evil power hungry elites.
Along with naive delusional sycophants living privileged lives in the very capitalist system they denounce.
"The invention of the helicopter is the greatest achievement of mankind" - Augusto Pinochet.
a neurosurgeon and a factory worker should be paid the same wage as equals... cant handle the stupidity...
I have an exam about this tomorrow and this was so helpful!! The best timing ever haha thank you!!!!!
honestudy Don't use this as it's an extremely biased view of communism.
Communism would be a great thing for the modern but Stalin alone tarnished the image of communism to such a level when the USSR was seen as the most opressive and inequal state in the world where the government officials and politicians would be the most powerful class in the country
Eventually evil collapses under the weight of its own absurdity.
oooh, so that's why the american economy collapses every 10 years
Practically no Nation on Earth ever achieve the true ideals of communism.
That's because the true ideals of Communism are unachievable whether it was Stalin Mal or anyone else communism or socialism although in this case we're talking about Marx's socialism has never worked no matter where it's been tried. It's been given several temps and it's failed every time. And saying that it was Stalin's version and that was the reason it failed because it was never truly tried isn't a good answer when it being truly tried never seems to happen.
Remember this no one ever used the same excuse for capitalism.
The success of Stalin - the man who used to boast that he conquered the United States "from the plow to the atomic bomb in just a generation" - compared to Gorbachev's failure shows that a socialist economy is unable to function with a minimum of efficiency without requiring a massive dose of political violence. In an attempt to reform a decadent regime, Gorbachev moved faster with the process of economic opening in the hope of removing the predictable resistance that the Soviet bureaucracy would create to economic reform measures, as thorough proof with the failed attempt. coup d'état in August 1991 - which ended up precipitating the final crisis of socialism and the dissolution of the USSR itself
Its Chinese parallel - Deng Xiaoping - adopted a logic diametrically opposed to that of Gorbachev: it prioritized the achievement of economic prosperity (adopting in practice capitalism) precisely to delay any attempt at political opening, as was evident with the acceleration of the economy. reforms after the Tiananmen Square massacre.
It is important to note that it was Karl Marx himself who, in his Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, discerned the scenario in which the conditions for a social revolution process are formed, describing it as follows:
“At a certain stage in its development, the material productive forces of society contradict existing production relations or - which is only their legal expression - with the property relations in which they have been active until then. From the forms of development of the productive forces, these relations are transformed into fetters of them. So, it is a time of social revolution. ' (Reproduced according to MARX, K. Preface to the Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, organized by Florestan Fernandes and published under the title K. Marx: Theory and historical process of the social revolution, In Marx & Engels, Great Social Scientists Collection, History, vol. 36. São Paulo: Ática, 1983. p. 232. Commemorative edition of the centenary of Karl Marx's death)
By rejecting the pursuit of profit maximization as an instrument to stimulate innovation, socialist countries ended up condemning themselves to obsolescence. Thus, they lost the chance to incorporate the productivity gains made possible by technological progress. That is why the capitalist countries managed to provide a greater rise in the standard of living of their population, even without pursuing the egalitarian ideal. Therefore, until the “final crisis of socialism” (to paraphrase K. Marx's own definitions once again), it was only a matter of time. But religious fanatics do not give up on their faith, even against the indisputable proof of the facts, which completely refute it!
The fall of communism can be attributed to one thing. People like to own things,
"Rocks fly! I swear!"
* throws rock and it falls *
"Oh... erm... that's not a *REAL* rock..."
To give a neurosurgeon and a factory worker similar salary is a great injustice, to be a neurosurgeon it requires at least 14 years of studying and practicing,no wonder that communism failed.
My parents both lived in the Soviet Union and they said that the live their was really bad. There was never a day where a certaint amount of products were available. You were not able to say, what you think and the government always lied about the true situation of the country. So my parents and me too are happy, that communism fell and we hope that it will never ever return to europe because to live in such systems is horible.
*Laughs in Yugoslavia*
@@ozansencer4142 Yugoslavia collapsed.
Excuse me but you cannot call the failure of the Soviet Union “an experiment gone wrong.” Communism is not a good idea that went wrong because of Stalin. It was a bad idea. Lenin himself was not a visionary that seeked to liberate the Russian people as this video is implying, but a murderer that committed horrendous crimes against humanity not much less than Stalin or Mao did. Marx himself said that a new ideal, communist society requires the violent overthrow of existing governments and forced seizure of private property, which by today’s standards (or laws of any era) is illegal and barbaric. Meanwhile Lenin perpetuated this principle with professional revolutionaries executing blatant robbery and mass murder as they cleared the obstacles to establish the Soviet Union.Therefore it is wrong to say that modern communist states betrayed the true intent of Marx and Lenin, since the true intent of Marx and Lenin themselves is illegal, unjust, barbaric, and murderous,
Please be more responsible and do more accurate research before publishing political and philosophical videos like this one as the information you are conveying will have a deep impact on the viewers and their opinions, which would influence the society we live in
Charlie Bronsky spot on!
Just watch "the Allocator," from Star Trek. They put an AI intelligence in charge of Allocating resources fairly, and instead it starves half the people of resources. No matter how efficient you get, redistributing resources will always be unequal and inefficient.
On top of making a ruling class out of the Allocator as he controls the resources. Communism doesn't work, because it inevitably defeats its own purpose.
If you say that Stalin and Lenin failed to build Marks and Engels utopia, I would say that this is THE ONLY way to build it. There are no other option. Lots of people think that they can do it, that the capitalism is dead. I'm sorry, you cannot. One simple reason, when you are the master of your own land, or business, you look differently. When the "Government" is the master of all the land and business, your approach as individual is totally different. The beginning of the fall was, when the communists took all the land from the farmers and all small business owners, had to give up their shops to the government. But people still miss that scene of security, and steady job. Communists provided free health care, free sports for all the kids, free university education, every family get a 2 week vacation at the seashore, on a symbolic price. But again, it was utopia, financially it is impossible to back up such social experiment. Eventually, the so called "revolution" it was not a revolution at all, socialist block run out of money, and came back to the "filthy" west to land them some. The deal was, that their way of doing business need to change.
Here come the political arguments..
*gives popcorn*
communism is political system - what the hell do you expect
Communism wasn't Stalin, especialy in eastern europe. Czechoslovakian and Yugoslavian communism were different than Stalinism just to name a few. Belarus also lasted quite a while.
Yet the results were still the same. Tyranny, economic stagnation and collapse, etc.
Why is my generation so obsessed with communism?
Because they feed him to the idea that the world is here to oppress them so they think communism Is going to release them, it's Not going to especially with the Communist government who oppresses their citizens
Because your generation wants government hand-outs without doing anything.
Because they’re a bunch of brainwashed individuals that don’t know anything better.
They wanna make as much as everybody despite being lazy.
George Orwell described it best in the Animal Farm.
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Eastern Europe lolll
It failed everywhere
Asia - That's where you're wrong
@@sooryan_1018 communist party of the philippines is getting it's assed kick by Filipino troops
United Federation of Planets > Internationale
Money doesn't exist 🚀🌟
Well, we also assume people would be willing to go into the nothingness of space for prolonged periods of time facing the risks of getting blown up by various hostile factions like Klingons or Romulans or getting assimilated by Borgs *at all* , let alone for *NO COMPENSATION* . Basically, Picard and Kirk would live in the same conditions as a pig farmer.
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A pig farmer in our society, yes. But we're talking about their universe now. And in a society without a meritocratic economic system, pig farmers are as rich as star captains, without actually working as hard.
The biggest factor:
Communist countries, with the exception of China, Vietnam, Cuba, Soviet Union, Albania, and Yugoslavia, are all satellite states with the sole purpose of providing for their superiors (North Korea to China, South Yemen to Soviet Union). Albania collapsed due to despotism leaving a power vacuum aka instability, Yugoslavia collapsed because of nationalism. China & Vietnam have moved towards a market-oriented economy and are experiencing an economic boom. Cuba is reestablishing relations with the United States, and North Korea is China's lapdog. Liberal Democracies within NATO, are all sovereign states that cooperate with each other instead of being subjugated by a stronger power. An alliance of dozens of independent thinking nations is more powerful than an alliance of a single nation with hive-minded limbs acting as "countries".
If communist nations were as cooperative as Liberal Democracies, they'll likely collapse still, but at a later time. Or, in the case of Vietnam and China, remodel themselves to fit the modern globalist world, reaping the benefits of mass consumerism.
WOAH WOAH WOAH!! Slow your rolls...what if Capitalism, and the automation of labor is the way to Communism?
Well obviously! Communism would never be achieved by Socialists, it'll be achieved by Capitalists through automation! The only thing we're missing now is an UBI. After that, several steps forward to true Communism on the machine path! The alternative would be Hivemind and Cultists, but I like Machine path much better.
Look into shadowrun. The end goal of communism is a country where companies could even own a whole city and make their own rules in it since they own enough money and power to just do so.
Check out the definition of communism and the whole context of this ideology...is completely opposed to capitalism as we know it because it is against our liberties, entrepreneurship, free speech and so on...
@@ADHD_40K that’s completely false, the system you’re referring to here is anarchist capitalism. money wouldn’t exist under communism
In America we are taught to hate Communism and fight against it to the death!!
Let's goooooo Patriotism!!
The Infographics show literally debunked communism in less then 9 minutes. 🤣
Honestly, I want to be a doctor and if I was born in communism I'd be doing nothing
@IslandSR I'd just take other people's stuff
Or you would be working a side job to supplement your meager state wages like in Cuba.
(speaking as a person from post soviet country) If you wanted to be a doctor and you were actually working hard for it the government would've provided you free education and housing during the time you study, not for free of course later with the knowledge you would've required you would've been sent to a smaller city where you would work for 3 to 5 years (during this time housing would've been provided) then you would be free to work in any major hospital and having a good living (contrary to the comment section - doctors lived a lot better than factory workers). However if you were to "just take other people's stuff"...there would be much more serious consequences than those in the west (the one thing i don't agree with).
Because it was a failure in the first place
Yes, because, life is that simplified.
Communism or eastern Europe?
People don't undrrstand! Inequality should be a thing, just not as extreme as today.
We all wonder, what would happen if Trotsky was installed instead of Stalin?
Stalinism had it's direct roots in Leninism. Neither espoused anything like what Marx had envisioned. More importantly, Lenin was the originator of terror and murder in the Soviet Union, not Stalin. No communist state has ever avoided falling into this situation, because communism is based on class conflict and violent revolution, which always leads to a pattern of violence as a policy. Over 100 million people died as the result of Communist regimes or rebels. Thousand continue to die so today.. Communism failed because it just replaces one form oppression with another. This not because Communism turned into fascism. Fascism was modelled on Leninism-Stalinism. It is because the ideology is inherently violent and has to resort to violence because it doesn't work socially or economically.
I literally have an exam about this subject tomorrow. Perfect timing!
the amount of mis-information and lack of education in this video and the comment section is disturbing
Would you mind providing insight? I’m being genuine. Have you read this stuff at all? I haven’t.
I agree having actually read about communism and how the ussr was this is a gross misinterpretation of history to say the least
Definitely a George Soros funded bot Get in the fucking helicopter.
Exactly.
You missed the flaws of communism, the debt communism and socialism has with all their branches and most importantly how Leninism was very different than Marxism (it is even blamed for being state capitalism by other communists) and the anti-Stalinist approach that happened after Stalin died. You skipped all that and you just blamed Stalin for EVERYTHING. I want to remind you that most historians consider the Stalinist age as the golden age of the USSR economically/militarily and it was Stalin that turned Russia into a superpower in the inter-war-period.
This topic is not a topic you can research in just a day. Though Stalin's impact is great, he is not responsible for EVERYTHING that went wrong.
Well, the only reason Stalin was able to get the country industrialized at all was the fact that he wasn't a hardcore communist. If he was, he would have been too busy redistributing wealth and starting wars to "liberate" other nations.
After the wall fell, I crossed over to "East Germany". As I drove deeper into the country, I was amazed to see the pollution.
Hi Infographics!
I was wondering if it would be possible to have an episode on what it’s like to live in a failed state. If so, I would be very interested to hear your input on it.
I love your videos! You are doing a really awesome job and I have learned a ton from them! Keep up the excellent work!
when automation takes over almost all aspects of labor communism seems to the only way for a large population to prosper
Leave russia alone long enough and they will always just end up defeating themselves
They didn't the US illigaly broke up the country
@@milesdunstan-daams9162 nah it was Gorbachev's mishandling, the failed coup by hardliners, and Yeltsin's deal with Ukraine and Belarus.
@@ILaunchNukes and the US illigaly interfered in the election of yeltsins
@@milesdunstan-daams9162 that was after it fell.
@@milesdunstan-daams9162 also stop blaming the US for all the world's problems.
This is a society without inventive. Why would I bust my ass in college for years to be a neurosurgeon when I can go flip burgers and live my life easy
With the rise of automation and IT, I don't necessarily envision the idea of a communistic future but I rather see capitalist system radically transformed by these changes. I see a capitalism system where in robots and AI would tirelessly perform work on behalf of manual laborers and the only people employed are those who have the skills to operate, maintain, and repair those machines. With this, comes a surplus of goods and revenue for capitalists. This revenue, ballooned by incessant production, would be taxed by the government who continues to regulate these businesses to ensure they do not abuse and fraud either their remaining workers or consumers. This government would then distribute these tax revenues into infrastructure projects and social programs, which includes a universal basic income that gives all citizens the same amount of money so that they could meet their needs. With these projects, earning a living would be an option, but would not be a necessity, and people could pursue whatever their wants and needs.
The vision of communism is not just to build a classless and moneyless society. It also aims to make governments unnecessary, and removing a body such as a government would inevitably cause chaos, which would make the communist project fail.
"I see a capitalism system where in robots and AI would tirelessly perform work on behalf of manual laborers and the only people employed are those who have the skills to operate, maintain, and repair those machines. "
Won't happen.
1.) This would cause mass layoffs.
2.) With less people working, there is less revenue being generated which means less people being able to buy things which means less revenue for the companies, less money coming into their coffers means they can't afford to operate nor maintain those machines. With less people working and being able to buy things means less tax revenue on income and sales which means the government goes bankrupt under the weight of its own upkeep which means they won't be able to afford to maintain those regulations. Even if you taxed the rich 100% of their income, you wouldn't have enough to run the country.
Automation, AI and IT are the tools of the lazy that will destroy the world.
Me: I promise I wont get all political
*30 seconds into the video*
The history of communism encompasses a wide variety of ideologies and political movements sharing the core theoretical values of collective ownership of wealth, economic enterprise and property.[1]
Most modern forms of communism are grounded at least nominally in Marxism, an ideology conceived by noted sociologist Karl Marx during the mid-19th century.[2] Marxism subsequently gained a widespread following across much of Europe and throughout the late 1800s its militant supporters were instrumental in a number of failed revolutions on that continent.[1] During the same era, there was also a proliferation of communist parties which rejected armed revolution, but embraced the Marxist ideal of collective property and a classless society.[1]
Although Marxist theory suggested that the places ripest for social revolution-either through peaceful transition or by force of arms-were industrial societies, communism was mostly successful in underdeveloped countries with endemic poverty such as the Russian Empire and the Republic of China.[2] In 1917, the Bolshevik Party seized power during the Russian Revolution and created the Soviet Union, the world's first Marxist state.[3] The Bolsheviks thoroughly embraced the concept of proletarian internationalism and world revolution, seeing their struggle as an international rather than a purely regional cause.[3][2] This was to have a phenomenal impact on the spread of communism during the twentieth century as the Soviet Union installed new communist governments in Central and Eastern Europe following World War II and indirectly backed the ascension of others in the Americas, Asia and Africa.[1] Pivotal to this policy was the Communist International (also simply known as the Commintern), which was formed with the perspective of aiding and assisting communist parties around the world and fostering revolution.[3] This was one major cause of tensions during the Cold War as the United States and its military allies equated the global spread of communism with Soviet expansionism by proxy.[4]
By 1985, one-third of the world's population lived under a communist system of government in one form or another.[1] However, there was significant debate among communist ideologues as to whether most of these countries could be meaningfully considered Marxist at all.[4] Many of the basic components of the Marxist system were altered and revised by various self-styled communist regimes.[4] The failure of communist governments to live up to the ideal of a communist society as well as their general trend towards increasing authoritarianism has been linked to the decline of communism in the late 20th century.[1] With the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, several communist states repudiated or abolished the ideology altogether.[5] By the 21st century, only a small number of communist governments remained, namely Cuba, Vietnam and Laos.[1] Despite retaining a nominal commitment to communism, the People's Republic of China has essentially ceased to be governed by the principles of Marxism or Maoism, reverting to an authoritarian regime with a mixed economy.[1]
From the start of actual communistic government in 1917 until 2017, demographers have computed that communism has claimed the lives of more than 68 million people directly through starvation, imprisonment, mass deportation, forced labor camps and social engineering. Specific leaders bear personal responsibility for these deaths, including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, the Kim dynasty and others.[6]
History of the word communism
Portrait of Victor d'Hupay (c. 1790) first theorician and founder of modern communism
"Communism" derives from the French communisme which developed out of the Latin roots communis and the suffix isme - and was in use as a word designating various social situations before it came to be associated with more modern conceptions of an economic and political organization. Semantically, communis can be translated to "of or for the community" while isme is a suffix that indicates the abstraction into a state, condition, action or doctrine, so "communism" may be interpreted as "the state of being of or for the community". This semantic constitution has led to various usages of the word in its evolution, but ultimately came to be most closely associated with Marxism, most specifically embodied in The Communist Manifesto, which proposed a particular type of communism.
The term was first coined in its modern definition by the French philosopher Victor d'Hupay. In his 1777 book Projet de communauté philosophe, d'Hupay pushes the legacy of the Enlightenments to principles which he lived up to during most of his life in his bastide of Fuveau, Provence.[7] His book can be seen as a backbone of communist philosophy as d'Hupay attempts a definition of this lifestyle which he calls a "commune" and advises to "share all economic and material products between inhabitants of the commune, so that all may benefit from each other's work".[8] His friend and contemporary author Restif de la Bretonne also describes him as a "communist" in one of his books.[9]
"Socialism" is also a word which is essentially the same as "communism" and became popular among leftists especially in France (where the word originated) before communism did. However, the semantic evolution of these two words has led them to contain different associations. Some of these developments can be traced to various organizations which operated in Europe as well as the Americas since the particular programs of various parties, leagues, confederations and associations. infused the terms with their own political orientation. For instance, the communist party has been perceived as an embodiment of communism despite the fact that a variety of other self-identified communists belong to contrary political as well as economic positions.
Early development (1840-1916)
Pre-Marxist communism
Further information: Primitive communism, Pre-Marxist Communism, and Religious communism
Many historical groups have been considered as following forms of communism. Karl Marx and other early communist theorists believed that hunter-gatherer societies as were found in the Paleolithic were essentially egalitarian and he therefore termed their ideology to be "primitive communism". Early Christianity supported a form of common ownership based on the teachings in the New Testament which emphasised sharing amongst everyone. Other ancient Jewish sects, like the Essenes, also supported egalitarianism and communal living.[10]
In Europe, during the early modern period various groups supporting communist ideas appeared. Tommaso Campanella's 1601 work The City of the Sun propagated the concept of a society where the products of society should be shared equally.[11] Within a few centuries, during the English Civil War various groups on the side of the Roundheads propagated the redistribution of wealth on an egalitarian basis, namely the Levellers and the Diggers.[12] In the 18th century, the French philosopher Jean Jacques Rousseau in his hugely influential The Social Contract (1762) outlined the basis for a political order based on popular sovereignty rather than the rule of monarchs.[13] His views proved influential during the French Revolution of 1789 in which various anti-monarchists, particularly the Jacobins, supported the idea of redistributing wealth equally among the people, including Jean-Paul Marat and Gracchus Babeuf. The latter was involved in the Conspiracy of the Equals of 1796 intending to establish a revolutionary regime based on communal ownership, egalitarianism and the redistribution of property.[14] However, the plot was detected and he and several others involved were arrested and executed. Despite this setback, the example of the French Revolutionary regime and Babeuf's doomed insurrection was an inspiration for radical French thinkers such as Compte Henri de Saint Simon, Louis Blanc, Charles Fourier and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, who declared that "Property is theft!".[15]
Karl Marx
Karl Marx, founder of Marxism
Communism is the riddle of history solved, and it knows itself to be this solution.
- Karl Marx, 1844[16]
In the 1840s, a German philosopher and sociologist named Karl Marx (1818-1883), who was living in England after fleeing the authorities in the German states, where he was considered a political threat, began publishing books in which he outlined his theories for a variety of communism now known as Marxism. Marx was financially aided and supported by another German émigré, Friedrich Engels (1820-1895), who like Marx had fled from the German authorities in 1849.[17] Marx and Engels took on many influences from earlier philosophers and politically they were influenced by Maximilien Robespierre and several other radical figures of the French Revolution, whilst economically they were influenced by David Ricardo and philosophically they were influenced by Hegel.[18] Engels regularly met Marx at Chetham's Library in Manchester, England from 1845 and the alcove where they met remains identical to this day.[19][20] It was here that Engels relayed his experiences of industrial Manchester, chronicled in the Condition of the Working Class in England, highlighting the struggles of the working class.
I liked this video cause you explained it very well and why it failed or what was done wrong.
I can tell modern socialist or communist will hate this cause you weren't able to say to make it confusing enough for someone can agree with you.
Talk about trying to put a pretty face on a horrible idea...
*ThAt WaSn'T rEaL cOmMuNiSm.*
Djekuje Polska dla 1989! Thank you Poland for 1989! Pozdrowienia z Kanada!
It’s crazy how many people don’t even know how much of an impact Poland had on this topic .....
These comments hurt me in ways I cannot even explain.
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These comments hurt us in ways We cannot even explain.
Ethiopia is also a great example where communism was ‘tried’ because of the decline of the imperial regime, the communist regime known as Derg took over, classism wasn’t a big issue so they used that as an opportunity to make sure classism wouldn’t exist. And then well the rest is history.