For me counts the following: Open the RAW file in Lightroom and correct White Balance and lens correction, also contrast, brightness and sharpening, means everything to correct the sensor data. Then open in Photoshop and do the rest.
After using LR for years I finally adopted the same process. Finding Brian's vids is perfect for me as I use PS on all my photos. I only do concert work. Finally I can remove rigging cables effortlessly and fix drastic concert lighting. Like Brian said looking back 10 years all my photos looked the same. I am very happy with the LR-PS combo. PEACE
Hey Brian, no question PS is the most powerful creative tool. LR & PS are partners not either or for professional photographers. At one point in history, every photo I had was taken from start to finish in PS. Over the years LR has taken on more of the tasks and does so with the RAW file. Once in PS, the processing is done at the pixel level. I would do all that is possible in LR and then take the creative stuff to PS. One tool that should be the first for new PS users is to use Smart Objects and then do PS edits from there as it maintains the RAW connection. A good test is to take a photo into PS and make it smaller and then make it original size again. You will see the photo falls apart as you are shrinking and enlarging pixels. Then take the same photo into PS as a Smart Object, make it smaller then resize back to the original. You will see the photo is back to its original state without degrading because the Smart Object goes back to the RAW file for the data instead of stretching pixels. PS is a pixel editor and LR never changes a single pixel, rather it uses a small text file to apply adjustment on top of the original file. Keep up the great work I like the direction you are heading right now with your tutorials. R😎🤙
Hey Brian, just stumbled across your video and just wanted to let you know that I really like your delivery. If I may give you my opinion as someone that uses both Lightroom and Photoshop professionally, I believe they actually work the best when used in conjunction with each other. Lightroom is an extremely powerful tool for tweaking photos to look their best sort of "as shot", and Photoshop is incredible when it comes to taking those photos and completely manipulating them. Together, they are such a powerful tool it's really just mind boggling. Also, I just quickly wanted to let you know that the spot healing brush is by no means the best way to remove a subject from the photo in Photoshop anymore. Use the lasso selector to select what you would like to remove then go to "edit>content aware fill". It'll change your life! Keep up the great videos!
Wow, I just found your channel and so fortunate as I'm new to LR. I just finished their trial week and so much to learn. Your demeanor and voice, along with obvious knowledge, just sets you apart from other You Tube videos. So I subscribed and will follow along your tutorials. I just watched your "S curve" video in LR and I have a much better understanding now, rather than just use the sliders. Thanks a lot, Ted
Fantastic video! I've been thinking about using PS more but the learning curve is intimidating and frustrating. This really motivated me to buckle down and learn some more!
Great series. Many of us have the Adobe photographers subscription but stay mostly in Lightroom. Pointing out the places where PS is better is a great service. Please continue this series.
Its pretty ironic that a true Classic application like Photoshop is 10 times better than Lightroom Classic on this area. . Its not just better in results, its also better in performance. Confirms the terrible state of Lightroom Development.
Been using PS since 1991 (PS 2.0 if I recall), it was and still is a MONSTER! I have a love/hate affair with PS, as I have become more of an LR user since 2008. As most of my workflow is very simple and basic and rarely have any needs for Layering my work, LR fits the bill. That said, you are spot on with regards to the Spot/Clone tools in PS vs LR. Any serious removal work, it is off to PS I go. Basic sensor dust/spot removal, LR does the job nicely, however as I mentioned earlier, PS for anything heavier. Ditto for cropping and altering the image with regards to horizons and the like. That Warp tool has saved my bacon on more than a few occasions where LR has let me down. I am hoping that the upcoming release of the FULL PS for the iPad has these features built in. As I do a lot of my editing on the road with the iPad Pro 12.9 (2017), this could be a lifesaver. Frankly, PS Express/Fix and Mix are not cutting it.
100% on the same page regarding PS for the iPad Pro. A lot of people are eager to see how functional it is and I suspect it’ll be quite powerful. It’s going to be a very interesting year.
Hey, Brian. Thanks for the great video. I've been working on learning more about PS. I also like Camera Raw. It can get a photo largely dialed in and then pop it right into PS for the fun stuff.
I loved this tutorial a need desperately to learn how to use Layers. Do you have any tutorials on that? I love your method of teaching. I would love to learn more from you. Thank you so much.
Thank you for approaching this as you did. Your intro and simple yet thorough explanation is exactly what I need with where I'm at in photo editing currently. Lightroom is great but I want better quality out of my photos, especially long exposures of the stars and night sky. Thank you!
Hey Brian, I found your videos in my recommendations and I've been really enjoying them. I started getting serious with photography last year and I've been looking for ways to take me to the next level. And your videos are really opening my eyes to the possibilities. Thanks!
Thanks for this very educational video. I use LR for my catalogue, do basic editing in LR and then do the rest of my editing in PS exactly because of the reasons you mention.
Thanks, really helpful! As a former sound engineer I have to say that your voice audio is little heavy on the bass when listened with headphones. Nothing major but just a thought. Consonants are typically around 1500-6000 Hz and make speech understandable.
I appreciate the feedback. I keep meaning to see if any local friends are experienced with sound because I definitely need to help. I’ll take a look at my audio processor and mixer to see if something is dialed up too high (or low).
Hi Brian, I have had your Lightroom tricks video in my watch later for ages now and hey whilst cooking dinner this evening I watched it.....cracking video and thanks for sharing. Now then, I have just watched this video and I have to say you have really opened up the doors to Photoshop. I have been so impressed with your delivery on both videos as you have put the content into everyday English which I can and no doubt thousands others understand I have hit the subscribe button. Well done and many thanks. Shane in the UK
Hi Brian. Good video. I've been using Lr since public beta when I abandoned Ps 7 for the Library module. This past year I've started using Ps for more than the clone/content aware functions and find myself using it more often in my workflow. That being said, most of my editing corrections can be handled nicely in Lr. Thanks for sharing!
Thank YOU, Stuart, for watching and being such a wonderful supporter. Also, I got your email and will be replying soon. I have a lot to say about that topic.
Superb video thanks. I have used LR for the better part of 10 years but this helps. I've also used Affinity Photo a little which is a PS like tool. I need to get off the fence although what Affinity does is offer a full iPad experience.
Very interesting thank you - really can start to think about trying things in PS. Also I have always felt that PS Healing Tool seemed to be better than LR and the Clone Stamp Tool to better t..han the Cloning in LR.
Great video, Brian! I've been using Photoshop for many years but have never explored a lot of it's features. Instead, I seem to use the same 7 or 8 things I know to do.
Brian, a very good afternoon. Your video was uncannily timely. I have, like you been a LR user for many years and feel exceedingly comfortable within the environment and well recognize its limitations. PS has always been lurking there for me but frankly I find it intimidating. Nonetheless, I have decided that in 2019 I am going to become adept in its use. Additionally, I am doing considerable introspection to better understand where I want to take my photography. So thank you for this two part series.
Quite an eye opener. I’m a regular Lightroom user as I find Photoshop too “massive” to get to grips with. However, your thoughts in this video have made me re-think my approach. Tomorrow I’ll give Photoshop another go. Great video. Thank you.
Great video. Lightroom is a great app that does it job well, but if you want more fine control on your Raw files you may want to try Capture One Pro 12.
Really helpful and sincere thanks for posting - as you so rightly say looking for that little bit more and P/S (to my ageing brain) is a vast learning experience, you just showed exactly what I need when L/R fails - once again, many thanks.
For me, it's not either/or. Lr has features Ps does not, that are important to my workflow, such as all the file management tools. So while you can use ACR in Ps to do image editing you'd do in Lr, you don't get storage and file management, catalogs, collections, etc. So the question we thankfully don't have to answer is "if you had to choose just one?". If we did, my answer would be Lr.
Like you... I only used lightroom on the creative cloud for about a year before I tried photoshop... It was scary... Now I love it but am aware I'm only scratching the surface
Brian...I am picking up what you are putting down here. I am comfortable with LR, but I want to go to the next level with my photo editing, and PS is the next level. Especially if you want to be a better editor, and take your images to the Pro-Level. Thanks for your advice...PS-Guru in training...I'll be following, please keep posting more videos like this. #SinperEye
I think if I could get 'selective color' controls within LR, my 'need' to switch to PS would diminish drastically - then it'd basically be a "remove stuff" and/or "transform stuff" tool, instead of an integral part of my fine art editing workflow.
I do wonder whether Adobe has drawn a line in terms of the features that it’d migrate from PS to LR. I don’t think they worry about cannibalization, because both products are offered in their bundle, but there is a possibility of bloating LR with too much stuff.
I have used Lightroom since the very beginning when it was for cataloguing with very basic edits then into Photoshop for main editing. Lightroom has got too heavy and has gone way beyond its original purpose and just now the ACR conversion is not great as they (adobe) are trying to please too many people. IMHO ;-) great vlog
Thanks Brian! I was using an 8gb RAM machine for the longest time, Photoshop was painful for me to use. . Finally upped to a 16 G RAM machine, let the Photoshop learning begin!
What the heck! Photoshop and Lightroom are partners. You do the solid base adjustment in Lightroom working with your huge raw files so you can make big luminosity and color adjustments without compromising image quality. After that if you have a winning image meriting further work you move to Photoshop to add the final tiny changes that bring final polish to the image bringing it to a new level. Giving hypothetical percentages your final winning images should be 80% Lightroom and 20% Photoshop. In the end the final portfolio quality image is the combination of your best work in Lightroom raw then finishing with your best work in pixel-base Photoshop.
As informative this video is there is no point comparing those tools. LR is more like adjustment tool and PS is creative modifier and bender. If You took bad photo You have to use PS. You don't need it for enhancing well done picture.
I am a photographer that used Luminar Neo Now I am a photographer that uses Lightroom... moving over from corruption to Rubbish is a massive task... Neo's corruption is probably More to do with Micrasofts updates messing up computers again. on the other hand long talkes with the company they had no idea how to fix my problem... says it all.. so now with lightroom and photoshop and feeling the same.
I don’t agree with that at all. I know many pros, myself included, who use Lightroom for “serious editing”. And when I need to do something that I can’t do in Lightroom, I’ll send it to Photoshop but it’s not one or the other.
The better your photographs the less you NEED to use LR or PS. Unless you want to modify your photographs. Its a bit like Painting a photograph Really usefull Video - Thank you
Never used LR, tried it a few times and always gave up due to its flaky catalogue system. PS does it all and better especially linked with Adobe Camera raw and lets me catalogue my photos the way I want to. Couldnt live without masks, layers and smart objects now so will never try LR again.
Although i got the Adobe subscription for photographers, i never ever have used Photoshop. There is no need for me. I shoot in RAW and only want to develop my photos. I don't make any composings or hard manipulations with my photos. To me Photoshop seems to be much more complicated than Lightroom. With Lightroom i can do all i need. Sometimes i make some final touches with Luminar or the NikCollection. Photoshop? No, not for me, although i have to pay for it. I wish i could only subscribe to Lightroom.
Totally disagree with you. PS for publishing retouchers and editors, while LR is for photographers. You need to consider pro photographers normally check before shooting, they are able to do things correctly during shooting sessions and they seldom need to do big changes in post. There is less efficiency of using PS compared with LR. I don't think you are a pro photographer, just a retoucher sitting in front of screens all day. I see in the examples you were using PS to strengthen the weakness in shooting.
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For me counts the following: Open the RAW file in Lightroom and correct White Balance and lens correction, also contrast, brightness and sharpening, means everything to correct the sensor data. Then open in Photoshop and do the rest.
After using LR for years I finally adopted the same process. Finding Brian's vids is perfect for me as I use PS on all my photos. I only do concert work. Finally I can remove rigging cables effortlessly and fix drastic concert lighting. Like Brian said looking back 10 years all my photos looked the same. I am very happy with the LR-PS combo. PEACE
Hey Brian, no question PS is the most powerful creative tool. LR & PS are partners not either or for professional photographers. At one point in history, every photo I had was taken from start to finish in PS. Over the years LR has taken on more of the tasks and does so with the RAW file. Once in PS, the processing is done at the pixel level. I would do all that is possible in LR and then take the creative stuff to PS. One tool that should be the first for new PS users is to use Smart Objects and then do PS edits from there as it maintains the RAW connection. A good test is to take a photo into PS and make it smaller and then make it original size again. You will see the photo falls apart as you are shrinking and enlarging pixels. Then take the same photo into PS as a Smart Object, make it smaller then resize back to the original. You will see the photo is back to its original state without degrading because the Smart Object goes back to the RAW file for the data instead of stretching pixels. PS is a pixel editor and LR never changes a single pixel, rather it uses a small text file to apply adjustment on top of the original file. Keep up the great work I like the direction you are heading right now with your tutorials. R😎🤙
I completely agree with you, start in LR and finish details in PS
Hey Brian, just stumbled across your video and just wanted to let you know that I really like your delivery.
If I may give you my opinion as someone that uses both Lightroom and Photoshop professionally, I believe they actually work the best when used in conjunction with each other. Lightroom is an extremely powerful tool for tweaking photos to look their best sort of "as shot", and Photoshop is incredible when it comes to taking those photos and completely manipulating them. Together, they are such a powerful tool it's really just mind boggling.
Also, I just quickly wanted to let you know that the spot healing brush is by no means the best way to remove a subject from the photo in Photoshop anymore. Use the lasso selector to select what you would like to remove then go to "edit>content aware fill". It'll change your life!
Keep up the great videos!
ay yo this man spittin facts
Wow, I just found your channel and so fortunate as I'm new to LR. I just finished their trial week and so much to learn. Your demeanor and voice, along with obvious knowledge, just sets you apart from other You Tube videos. So I subscribed and will follow along your tutorials. I just watched your "S curve" video in LR and I have a much better understanding now, rather than just use the sliders. Thanks a lot, Ted
Fantastic video! I've been thinking about using PS more but the learning curve is intimidating and frustrating. This really motivated me to buckle down and learn some more!
Great series. Many of us have the Adobe photographers subscription but stay mostly in Lightroom. Pointing out the places where PS is better is a great service. Please continue this series.
Consider it done, Alan! Stay tuned!
Its pretty ironic that a true Classic application like Photoshop is 10 times better than Lightroom Classic on this area. . Its not just better in results, its also better in performance. Confirms the terrible state of Lightroom Development.
Been using PS since 1991 (PS 2.0 if I recall), it was and still is a MONSTER! I have a love/hate affair with PS, as I have become more of an LR user since 2008. As most of my workflow is very simple and basic and rarely have any needs for Layering my work, LR fits the bill. That said, you are spot on with regards to the Spot/Clone tools in PS vs LR. Any serious removal work, it is off to PS I go. Basic sensor dust/spot removal, LR does the job nicely, however as I mentioned earlier, PS for anything heavier. Ditto for cropping and altering the image with regards to horizons and the like. That Warp tool has saved my bacon on more than a few occasions where LR has let me down. I am hoping that the upcoming release of the FULL PS for the iPad has these features built in. As I do a lot of my editing on the road with the iPad Pro 12.9 (2017), this could be a lifesaver. Frankly, PS Express/Fix and Mix are not cutting it.
100% on the same page regarding PS for the iPad Pro. A lot of people are eager to see how functional it is and I suspect it’ll be quite powerful. It’s going to be a very interesting year.
As a beginner PS user I appreciate your style, it's easy to follow along, understand and retain. Thank you, from one of your new subscribers.
Hey, Brian. Thanks for the great video. I've been working on learning more about PS. I also like Camera Raw. It can get a photo largely dialed in and then pop it right into PS for the fun stuff.
I loved this tutorial a need desperately to learn how to use Layers. Do you have any tutorials on that? I love your method of teaching. I would love to learn more from you. Thank you so much.
Wow, that warp tool is cool! Hadn't seen that before.
I can spend a lifetime in PS and still manage to find something new about it. That’s why I love that app so much!
Thank you for approaching this as you did. Your intro and simple yet thorough explanation is exactly what I need with where I'm at in photo editing currently. Lightroom is great but I want better quality out of my photos, especially long exposures of the stars and night sky. Thank you!
I just got up the courage to use PS on a couple of my photos. I find your videos very helpful. Thanks!
Hey Brian, I found your videos in my recommendations and I've been really enjoying them. I started getting serious with photography last year and I've been looking for ways to take me to the next level. And your videos are really opening my eyes to the possibilities. Thanks!
Thanks for this very educational video. I use LR for my catalogue, do basic editing in LR and then do the rest of my editing in PS exactly because of the reasons you mention.
Great video! Curious as to what version macbook you are using in the video? Thanks
Thanks, really helpful! As a former sound engineer I have to say that your voice audio is little heavy on the bass when listened with headphones. Nothing major but just a thought. Consonants are typically around 1500-6000 Hz and make speech understandable.
I appreciate the feedback. I keep meaning to see if any local friends are experienced with sound because I definitely need to help. I’ll take a look at my audio processor and mixer to see if something is dialed up too high (or low).
Hi Brian, I have had your Lightroom tricks video in my watch later for ages now and hey whilst cooking dinner this evening I watched it.....cracking video and thanks for sharing. Now then, I have just watched this video and I have to say you have really opened up the doors to Photoshop. I have been so impressed with your delivery on both videos as you have put the content into everyday English which I can and no doubt thousands others understand I have hit the subscribe button. Well done and many thanks. Shane in the UK
Hi Brian. Good video. I've been using Lr since public beta when I abandoned Ps 7 for the Library module. This past year I've started using Ps for more than the clone/content aware functions and find myself using it more often in my workflow. That being said, most of my editing corrections can be handled nicely in Lr. Thanks for sharing!
Another great tutorial.Thanks Brian for continuing to inspire us.
Thank YOU, Stuart, for watching and being such a wonderful supporter. Also, I got your email and will be replying soon. I have a lot to say about that topic.
Superb video thanks. I have used LR for the better part of 10 years but this helps. I've also used Affinity Photo a little which is a PS like tool. I need to get off the fence although what Affinity does is offer a full iPad experience.
Very interesting thank you - really can start to think about trying things in PS. Also I have always felt that PS Healing Tool seemed to be better than LR and the Clone Stamp Tool to better t..han the Cloning in LR.
super useful as always. you are quickly becoming one of my favorite tutors! :)
Thank you SO much for the kind words! You started my day off wonderfully, my friend!
Thank you so much Sensei! You are a blessing!
Great video, Brian! I've been using Photoshop for many years but have never explored a lot of it's features. Instead, I seem to use the same 7 or 8 things I know to do.
Brian, a very good afternoon. Your video was uncannily timely. I have, like you been a LR user for many years and feel exceedingly comfortable within the environment and well recognize its limitations. PS has always been lurking there for me but frankly I find it intimidating. Nonetheless, I have decided that in 2019 I am going to become adept in its use. Additionally, I am doing considerable introspection to better understand where I want to take my photography. So thank you for this two part series.
Quite an eye opener. I’m a regular Lightroom user as I find Photoshop too “massive” to get to grips with. However, your thoughts in this video have made me re-think my approach. Tomorrow I’ll give Photoshop another go. Great video. Thank you.
Great video. Lightroom is a great app that does it job well, but if you want more fine control on your Raw files you may want to try Capture One Pro 12.
Another great video, Brian. Keep them coming.
Nice video man. In my opinion, Lightroom is great for color correction and Photoshop for all the other work, thanks for sharing
For color correction try capture one..it's way superior
Good vid , learnt from it looking forward to trying stuff out. It came up in my suggestions now subbed. 👍
Really helpful and sincere thanks for posting - as you so rightly say looking for that little bit more and P/S (to my ageing brain) is a vast learning experience, you just showed exactly what I need when L/R fails - once again, many thanks.
Great insights - thank you so much - very well done.
For me, it's not either/or. Lr has features Ps does not, that are important to my workflow, such as all the file management tools. So while you can use ACR in Ps to do image editing you'd do in Lr, you don't get storage and file management, catalogs, collections, etc. So the question we thankfully don't have to answer is "if you had to choose just one?". If we did, my answer would be Lr.
Oh, and ... had wondered about your videos, and realised I hadn’t ticked the bell for notifications. Rectified now.
Like you... I only used lightroom on the creative cloud for about a year before I tried photoshop... It was scary... Now I love it but am aware I'm only scratching the surface
I hate that ACR doesn't scale correct on my Dell 13".
Thank you Brian! Do you continue to use LR as your catalogue?
You’re welcome! And I do. Except I use the newer Lightroom CC primarily, not Classic.
@@brianmatiash Interesting - another video on why perhaps??
Very helpful. Thank you.
Brian...I am picking up what you are putting down here. I am comfortable with LR, but I want to go to the next level with my photo editing, and PS is the next level. Especially if you want to be a better editor, and take your images to the Pro-Level. Thanks for your advice...PS-Guru in training...I'll be following, please keep posting more videos like this. #SinperEye
I love the way you got around saying, “Scott turned up early and got in the f’kin way of all my shots.” ;)
Great unusual and informative tutorial, thank you
I think if I could get 'selective color' controls within LR, my 'need' to switch to PS would diminish drastically - then it'd basically be a "remove stuff" and/or "transform stuff" tool, instead of an integral part of my fine art editing workflow.
I do wonder whether Adobe has drawn a line in terms of the features that it’d migrate from PS to LR. I don’t think they worry about cannibalization, because both products are offered in their bundle, but there is a possibility of bloating LR with too much stuff.
I have used Lightroom since the very beginning when it was for cataloguing with very basic edits then into Photoshop for main editing. Lightroom has got too heavy and has gone way beyond its original purpose and just now the ACR conversion is not great as they (adobe) are trying to please too many people. IMHO ;-) great vlog
So, as a 70 year old “new” user, is there anything you suggest doing in Lightroom before going into Photoshop?
Everything works pretty well. If you follow and keep the balance, everything will be fine.
Spot healing, SOLD. I’m going to save up to pay for Photoshop annually:). Thanks for the motivation🤓🖖
Thanks Brian, Awesome tips
You’re most welcome!
Thanks Brian! I was using an 8gb RAM machine for the longest time, Photoshop was painful for me to use. . Finally upped to a 16 G RAM machine, let the Photoshop learning begin!
Yeah, PS can be a drag with 8GB of RAM. 16GB will serve you very well! Look forward to more PS vids!
great video mate! well done! cheers.
thanks, downloaded, all works!
What the heck! Photoshop and Lightroom are partners. You do the solid base adjustment in Lightroom working with your huge raw files so you can make big luminosity and color adjustments without compromising image quality. After that if you have a winning image meriting further work you move to Photoshop to add the final tiny changes that bring final polish to the image bringing it to a new level. Giving hypothetical percentages your final winning images should be 80% Lightroom and 20% Photoshop. In the end the final portfolio quality image is the combination of your best work in Lightroom raw then finishing with your best work in pixel-base Photoshop.
I guess if you're a stickler for detail then yes, PS is the better choice for some things.
As informative this video is there is no point comparing those tools. LR is more like adjustment tool and PS is creative modifier and bender. If You took bad photo You have to use PS. You don't need it for enhancing well done picture.
This is great Brian - THANKS!!!!
I am a photographer that used Luminar Neo Now I am a photographer that uses Lightroom... moving over from corruption to Rubbish is a massive task... Neo's corruption is probably More to do with Micrasofts updates messing up computers again. on the other hand long talkes with the company they had no idea how to fix my problem... says it all.. so now with lightroom and photoshop and feeling the same.
Photoshop - For pros / serious editing
Lightroom - For amateurs / basic editing
I don’t agree with that at all. I know many pros, myself included, who use Lightroom for “serious editing”. And when I need to do something that I can’t do in Lightroom, I’ll send it to Photoshop but it’s not one or the other.
lovely tips, thanks :)
The better your photographs the less you NEED to use LR or PS. Unless you want to modify your photographs. Its a bit like Painting a photograph
Really usefull Video - Thank you
Never used LR, tried it a few times and always gave up due to its flaky catalogue system. PS does it all and better especially linked with Adobe Camera raw and lets me catalogue my photos the way I want to.
Couldnt live without masks, layers and smart objects now so will never try LR again.
Great stuff Brian, but for peat sake, move the microphone. The base level make this very hard for the listener.
Do the same but with Affinity Photo instead of Photoshop
Lightroom color correct etc, 2000 photos, from a wedding and then the 20 artistic photos you need, you take em to photoshop, thats it.
I wish its get work
*USES BOTH IN CONJUNCTION*
*Taps head
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For me...only Photoshop!
Although i got the Adobe subscription for photographers, i never ever have used Photoshop. There is no need for me. I shoot in RAW and only want to develop my photos. I don't make any composings or hard manipulations with my photos. To me Photoshop seems to be much more complicated than Lightroom. With Lightroom i can do all i need. Sometimes i make some final touches with Luminar or the NikCollection. Photoshop? No, not for me, although i have to pay for it. I wish i could only subscribe to Lightroom.
They do a Lightroom only with a 1tb cloud plan :-)
Lightroom is not even close
Then I end up spending my life manipulating images on Photoshop, no thank you, I'd stick with Lightroom and use the spare time doing real photography
Totally disagree with you. PS for publishing retouchers and editors, while LR is for photographers. You need to consider pro photographers normally check before shooting, they are able to do things correctly during shooting sessions and they seldom need to do big changes in post. There is less efficiency of using PS compared with LR. I don't think you are a pro photographer, just a retoucher sitting in front of screens all day. I see in the examples you were using PS to strengthen the weakness in shooting.