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It's a good thing, because we need to figure out digital ownership, this could be the way. Imagine you brought a video game, some platform, publisher can just delete it because you never owned it.
@@honeybadger9425 I wish, piloting and combat are somewhat unsatisfying in EVE, but the depth of simulation and systems in the game is what makes it really great.
@@joshinspace3903 i mean, ultimately games need to make money, that i dont have an issue with in general, but yeah paying for an unfinished product is always a problem.
Did you play prior to CONCORD, Patrol ships and the weak gate/station guns? Cause Sarum Prime was one of the bloodiest battlefields in the game and it was about survival ;)
They are editing selected books for a modern audience. Or ban selected others. They can't do that with a permissionless, trustless and decentralized systems. Same with audio, video, any kind of record keeping or audits. I can deposit, withdraw, send or receive any amount of currency without a bank, or government asking questions or asking for their approval.
@@brightwish blockchain has been around in one form or another since 2009. Any second now though, someone's gonna come up with a real, indisputable use for it. (if you were already getting at this with sarcastic "a few years", then woops)
@@Rainbro359 The gaming industry has been around for over 50 years, the first smart contract blockchain (ETH) is only 9 years old, and most blockchains are a lot younger. It takes on average 3-5 years to develop a game, it is early days for blockchain games. Give it time. And there are real uses for blockchains, just look at Arweave, Uniswap, Nosana to name a few.
I swear to god these youtubers that are completely clueless about most basic things are trying to make videos to "inform" people despite them themselves not having a slightest clue about how any of this works.
The blockchain cannot hurt you. People know fuck all about how innovative and broad it really is. Because they think crypto.. and pay to play and all that crap that came first. It is simply the next step just like the internet. People conflate blockchain with crypto. But it is TECH. Fast and incredibly versatile tech.
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 The thing is that nothing innovative or interesting has actually been made with crypto. When all we've seen so far, is bitcoin and hundreds of scams, of course people don't have faith in crypto. It has nothing to do with whether people 'get it', it has everything to do with the crypto bros never showing up to impress anyone with this tech.
Given 'scam & grief' is pretty much rooted in the nature of the eve universe and its habitants, player having dev capabilities within the game will potentially lead to some fantastic IRL news headlines in the future.
Look at Astrox Imperium, or maybe even X3: Terran Conflict. If neither of those look good, and you are a fan of minecraft, maybe Avorion would be better suited. Which is a Voxel based sandbox with a full economy and tons of stuff to do, can be Single or Multiplayer
Sins of a Solar Empire has an Eve online mod, ships, techs, and game mechanics change to be closer to the Eve universe. Actually pretty good. Also apparently there's an X4 mod for eve too.
@@TheOfficialSethos as someone whose played both for a couple hundred/thousand hours, yes it is, there's even a mod to replace all the ship models with eve ones if you want
CCP: We're making money hand over fist! What should we do? Players: Nothing? Be happy? Maybe improve your current game? CCP: Crypto it is! Players: ...
@@Diogenes76 that is untrue for sure look at all the fail games they have had etc some of which they sold..They have to have plenty of extra money to try an make all those fail games etc.
@@101spacecase Not really, they are dev shop and instead of putting Eve money back into Eve they just keep trying to innovate but their vision is antiquated. Hell, it was so bad they ended up selling out. If they had strong financials, that would not have been necessary.
Blockchain can be a useful technology for many things. Games are not one of them. If a game has a database, you can back up that database. If something in the game goes wrong, like an exploit flooding the ingame economy with something, whatever, you can just roll back, restore that back up of the database before things went south, everything's good. With blockchain you're stuck with every bad thing that happens. None of the positive things blockchain might bring to a game couldn't be done with a regular database.
you can do rollback with blockchain, but that defeats the purpose of blockchain :D if it is tied to realworld currency, there will be problems for sure. If there are money in it, it will be exploited and hacked...
@@Opfertod Well... We could now get into a semantics argument if trying to restore the state of the game at an earlier point on a blockchain is really a "rollback" You're not wrong though.
I can no longer muster any enthusiasm when a grand online space game is announced. After Star Citizen and Starfield, ED to a lesser extent, and all of the other, lesser failures, who could? The blockchain element is part of it, but even without it, CCP still has to deliver a good game and that seems less and less likely as time goes on. I don't mind watching your reporting on it though Ant, you're just doing your job. Thanks and keep it up.
If this game natively & officially supports Real Money Transactions it'll likely eventually get hit by the same Know Your Customer & Anti Money Laundering rules that Crypto Exchanges have
There needs to be some serious constraints on what a player can add. Imagine letting players just create instant death gates to keep people out of systems, or interceptor sized titans.
They tried to float this idea with the EvE player base awhile ago, it did not go over well. Nice to see that they took it to a separate game at least...
trying to rope in a different crowd of suckers to scam. I look forward to missing this title and expect it to be DOA like their space shooter game from forever ago.
@@Burningwithecstasy Yeah, their target audience is the people still clinging to EvE. And they rejected the blockchain pitch vehemently. It's honestly Pearl Abyss pulling the strings anymore anyway. The CCP that created and maintained the EvE that I loved for the first decade or so is a shell of what it once was.
@@Burningwithecstasy youtube disappeared my first reply, probably because I mentioned the company that made EvE. Either way, it's all Pearl Abyss pulling the strings behind the scenes now. The original company (That shall apparently not be named) is a shell of what it used to be.
Sadly it already seems they're sunsetting EVE Online proper now, we haven't had a major content update since invasion, just remaking FW thrice over and destroying the economy with scarcity.
@@TrampyPulsar Yeah, I agree. The scarcity. Choking the plex market to basically double in game cost for subs. Abyssal running used to be a really good way to make money, they have since upped the difficulty, and tanked the drop rates. They also haven't been doing jack to really balance anything, or shift the meta. They used to constantly fine tune ships, now they just tackle UI issues, and nerf drop rates. They had the recent null rework, that I honestly didn't even bother checking out, even though my acct is free to play. Its been dying for a long time now, though.
The point of blockchain is that it's a safe way to store data in a way that makes it especially difficult to modify. Imagine 100 different people carrying copies of an accounting book, updating it together each time someone adds a new entry. Then imagine the difficulty it would be if someone wanted to fake an entry. You'd somehow have to get all 100 copies and change them all, and do it so that they're all identical all the while you do it in between new entries being added, since that would foul the order of entries, making it obvious that some of them have been tampered with. It's a security feature, not something that is useful for gaming, so I'm not sure how this can be useful. I've never heard of a use for blockchain that is useful that isn't connected to moving money, directly or indirectly.
I played it, its EVE but with cryptoscam based economy. You buy tokens from CCP to trade in game for fuel mining equipment You need fuel to do anything in the game, including just being idle in space, effectively making the game pay per second. Your ships and structures are NFTs All of this so CCP can skirt RMT regulations by moving it out of their databases, though I don't think thats as big of a gotcha legal protection when a judge who barely understands how email works reviews a lawsuit against CCP for money laundering.
"modern sensibilities" for MMOs, live services, etc, are design the thing to milk the player for every cent, get them invested, and then shut down the whole mess when the bean counters no longer consider it profitable. Or when they get bought out by EA. At which point, it doesnt matter how much time or money youve invested, how active your guild is, or if you and your buddies are still having fun, your access to what youve paid for ends, permanently. And long before that, MMO "communities" become toxic and shun anyone who isnt rank and file in a raid army running cookie cutter builds. The blockchain tech is being used to make things "secure" by making private servers harder. When a game dev shows me I am not merely another cash cow to them by allowing me to host small scale multiplayer for me and my friends, without asking permission from their corporate servers, and I'll be able to do so forever, they get my money. These guys pushing this business model? They can pound sand.
If I can't sit in the cockpit of my ship and get immersed in the gameplay then I'm not interested no matter what the rest of the game is like. Until I see gameplay, I couldn't possibly care less.
I have to disagree here with you Obsidian. Just like Blizzard is no longer the company that made D2, CCP is no longer the company that made Eve Online in 2003. Calling it a respected game dev. studio is no longer valid. Everything Eve related should be laid to rest.
Highly respected in the same way EA is respected. People may hate on the company, but they know it's at least producing something and not an outright scam.
Giving players development tools AND cryptocurrencies? Yeah this will go completely smoothly and no catastrophic, gamebreaking stuff is ever gonna happen, right? Right??
Gamers typically swipe left on any game once "blockchain" is mentioned. EVE's crowd could be a lil different though, given the economic intrigue that exists in EVE Online.
Space Blockchained Rust Roblox? O.K. septuple no thank you dectuple no thank you cause its from CCP with their incredible track record of keeping new projects alive.
what I really want is a single player story driven game in the Eve Online universe. Something like EverSpace 2 but with the combat and gameplay mechanics of Eve Online.
The combat mechanics of eve sucks. And has always sucked. There is practically no skill just lock and shoot. The skill comes into play when you make fleet doctrines, ship fits, run your own economy, etc.
1) What's the deal with custom currency cr@p? Just enable item swap and crude material will become the universal go-to currency, 3rd-party marketplaces will also pop up, forming a rudimentary "ecosystem". 2) Looks like it's going to be dupers' paradise. 😄
Blockchain is an amazing solution to a problem that is yet to be discovered. And it's been the 'next big thing' for so long now, that I see fusion power becoming free and available for the entire planet before the blockchain-problem rears its head for the first time. But, since they obviously want to be the next studio that fails to deliver on their grandiose blockchain promises, that's as good a reason as any to not support this product.
Yes so far there's not many crypto games but right now I've been playing Star Atlas it's MMO space gameplay and you can see how the players got creative with the game you get to download the tools and with bots you could use it for farm and craft
А как Вы себе представляете игру на выживание, с 10 минутными лагами? или получасовыми, или с задержками транзакции на сутки, или полным откатом транзакции?
Leading with "It's based on blockchain technology" does not inspire any confidence in me. Neither does all the other projects they've tried and failed to make successful in the past. I'll be sitting on the sidelines watching for news that it's actually worth my time. I did my time in all forms of space in EVE Online, but very much consider myself retired.
"giving players development tools".... CCPlease, have you ever met an EVE player? All I really want in a space game is basically EVE but with actual piloting like Elite Dangerous.
There's a ton of EVE players that develop their own tools. Blockchain empowers those people to be a part of the development process. Sure a lot of people wont want to take part in that process, and they don't have to, but for those who do, giving them the ability to do so is a good move.
@@ovoj It's kind of an online shared database to deal with cryptocurrency and other information. NFT's are part of it too, which you may have heard of. You'd be best looking it up for yourself, just don't fall for the hype. Lots of people, myself included think it has no place in gaming.
Block chain would let them run portions of the game off the clients, peer to peer, and save a ton of money on power and servers. Trading, crafting, item stats, etc
For those unaware here is a short snippet of UK law on Real Cash Economy games: If a video game includes the ability to “cash out” a currency of real monetary value that may be won through skill or chance within the game, then it is likely that it will constitute gambling. This applies to cryptocurrencies and NFTs acquired in a video game that can be traded/sold outside of the video game itself. This still applies if you can withrdaw real currency from a game regardless of how you obtain it.
@Elwaves2925 Oh i can do it all i want, since i am not a Brit. I mean you could Try and stop an American but geez that hasn't worked well for you Brits in the past huh? That whole getting your asses kicked in the revolutionary war all the way up to saving your asses in WW2 pretty much sums up how much you can force me to do 😁👍 But hey it's your Lodon police commissioner that claims he's gonna extradite us over things he doesn't like. I say try it 😁
You know what would actually be a revolutionary thing they could do, to ensure that Eve Online lived on forever and they got a lot of money? Make a version that wasn't an MMO - make a Valheim-style version, which people could play solo or with friends. The same big galaxy, but with some actual NPC traffic and more dynamic behaviour (Freelancer-style, with factions patrolling and warring). To put it another way, imagine if you could have Eve Online: GAMMA. Like, Stalker: GAMMA, but Eve Online - a big sandbox that was yours to play on your terms, and to mod, with tools for making new stories and quest chains, and the ability to simulate dynamic faction conflicts and the outbreak of major wars. Because like many people, I love Eve. I played it back in 2004. I was briefly part of the "Aurora" team doing in-game events back in those ancient times. I love the lore, I love the setting, love the artwork, love the big-scale combat and the size of the ships. But I really don't have time for a game that plays like a stressful job.
Thanks for the update Obsidian, yeah Hilmar tried to make Eve into blockchain but we all protested against it, he just simply won't let the idea go. Seems now he thinks that blockchain will allow people to work to play they game and make money, this is not a good way to go. Work is work and play is play they should never go together as it will destroy your fun.
Crypto with players creating their own currencies? I see zero ways this can go wrong If you can buy the coins with real money, this will quickly devolve into an extremely pay to win game
Blockchain is just a decentralized log. It shouldn't even mean it's related with money at all, but maybe a way to track the history of what happens in the universe. Well, that's my hope anyway...
That's exactly what it is. Obviously it has options for money too... but game developers don't need to use blockchain in the actual game to have crypto payouts.
Great reivew as ever OA. Many thanks for showcasing this massive departure for CCP. I've been an occasional Eve player for the last 15 years... love it, sometimes hate it but can never leave it. To me the tease for Frontier is very vague.. i don't really get it. Programming? what's that? Blockchain? again, what's that? I'm intrigued to know more, hoping it's not just a crude play to win format.
Every. Single. Time. Blockchain games have been scams. I have yet to see any NFTs or assets that are actually true blockchain. They're all either fake or stuck in their own environments, which completely defeats the purpose.
Thats the issue, without context a string of ones and zeros are worthless. In the case of BC, it simply attributes your account with a number, but in the case of NFTs for a game, it requires the game to interpret and function, which means it has no advantage over a traditional inventory database, other than you don't need direct or indirect control of the database (I.E. trading an item via an auctionhouse/market/trade window in game), you can simply trade a token on the blockchain, but without the game itself, the token is worthless, like a DVD without a DVD player.
I just really worry about the ridiculous amount of RMT this is likely going to cause, even if the idea of alliances and corps having their own currencies, and therefore game-supported currency exchange being a thing, is exciting from a PvP point of view.
Atleast in the US, you have to report all your crypto trading for taxes. id assume anything you touch in a blockchain game will be a taxable event. kinda a nightmare.
The only thing CCP are really good at is creating trailers . Eve is now so outdated its not funny anymore and all they do nowdays is add more irrelevant crap instead of fixing the core game . Same exact pve missions for 20 years ffs .
Старая игра - это лучший способ заставить выбирать игрокам новые активности ... почему Вы не фармили Зарзах, вместо PVE-миссий?! Вам не нравится рыбалка?! Какая печаль! Может рынок крипто-мусора зайдет Вам?
I would like if ccp made a eve 2 with a more hands on aproach to the controling of the ship. Like something either like everspace 2 or star citizen/star wars battlefront
Nah, I guess Peter Molyneux's latest "Legacy" game was sort of a success. He collected (better: scammed) some 50 millions USD from investors pre-release.
Not regulating currency exchanges is so crazy. You have a mining faction built and a bunch of crypto tied up in the faction and one guy decides to pull alll of it out and there’s nothing that can be done about it? I can see this creating a problem
There WILL be a problem. And I really don ´t understand why CCP is doing this, literally even the worst AAA publishers got the memo, we do not want this play to earn crypto NFT trash. They are making very promising extraction shooter, they have one of the longest running MMO ever, they made sick trailer for Frontiers.. why absolutely ruin it? Sad. I would love good spinoff.
A block-chain is just a non-falsifiable ledger. It is non-falsifiable because control of the ledger is distributed among it's users; no central party has control over it. You can use a ledger for all sorts of things. As we all know, it can be used for keeping track of monetary transactions, but you can record anything you like in a ledger, it doesn't have to be money. In this particular case, they are apparently using it to record in-game construction for some reason.
и зачем?! Ева - мир воров и психопатов, записывать историю их болезни?! Количество их жертв, количество потерянного времени и ресурсов ... где игра? Где то, за что можно вложить деньги, где нормальная(!) игра, а не социальный эксперимент в колонии рецидивистов без средств воспитания и интеграции в социум?!
@@ruby_linaris (Assuming Google translate works) You clearly despise EVE, so I don't see why you are here at all? Why are you looking at EVE videos and commenting on them? Go do something you enjoy instead!
@@sc_cintara Ева - хороший потенциал, фантастический мир, с интересным лором, но слабый разработчик, который делает предельно аморальный социальный эксперимент, а тут только потому, что был заявлен "фронтир", хотелось увидеть чему научились разработчики ... они научились ... продолжать делать мусорные игры, загоны для психопатов, а теперь и с крипто-шопоголиками.
@@ruby_linaris I don't know what you are going on about "doing an extremely immoral social experiment" (again, assuming google translate is working right)? It's just a game! Get some perspective! If you don't like the game, play something else. Let those that enjoy the game play of EVE play the game they like to play. If you don't play the game, what right do you have to try to influence it?
this is a really bad idea, CCP is going to encourage rage and sorrow when real money is involved and maybe money laundering then the police will get involved then bye bye game or even CCP! but this is just my take.
Oh boy. Not excited about this concept. The risk is just too high for the negative consequences. Reality and real currencies need to be separate from game economies.
EVE is an MMO. MMOs are online only. I know modern gamers like to complain about "always online" and "live service" but... that's exactly what an MMO is. So if you don't like those types of games, you don't like MMOs. So this game will not be for you.
@@mercster В этой "онлайн игре" большинство не выходят из дока, Вы обманываете, за последние полгода наблюдаю как корпорации мобилизуют несколько десятков капсулеров для проведения рейда и выселения мелкого offline-коллектива, большие взаимные столкновения больших корпораций, альянсов - больше миф, чем реальность, некого и нечего развивать, и некуда, везде не будет места и ресурсов, ССП позаботились о финансовом балансе космоса нищеты, порядка деградации.
The example of EVE players taking ISK from other players is a good one. That is normal en EVE Online and fine, it is not real money. But Krypto is! If you take someone else's crypto, that is an actual crime in the real world.
Ева научила не сожалеть о потерях ISK, Frontire научит игроков не сожалеть о реальных преступлениях ... это будут прорыв в создании мира "Сумасшедшего Макса" в реальности.
CCP has been trying to improve monetization in EVE for years now, and failing. SKINNER is the latest example of an attempt to get players to buy more PLEX and it not working. This new game is nothing more than an extension of that same goal. Squeeze more money from the player base. They can't monetize EVE any more than currently, so they're making a new game. It will suck. It will fail. Just like all of their other side projects. And I love EVE online.
SKINNR could have worked if it was just simple: farm pattern/pigments in game, buy a sequencer for personal/tradable/corp/alliance cost in PLEX, design your skin, sequence, enjoy. The extra hoops are nonsense and the 20-30% mandatory tax is stupid.
I was a beta tester back in 2002. I was also part of CCP Polaris. What a great game this was on the first 5 years. Right after they started selling Plex and skill boosters for RL money. At that stage I knew immediately it was about time for me to leave, because sooner or latter this type of shit was bound to happen. ASA they changed from a subscription model to F2P+P2W the future of EVE was sealed. Shame. It was prolly the best game I've ever played.
HTML is a Markup Language, not a programming language (hence the ht-ML). The difference is that you can't really write any logic (not in the traditional sense) - only define a structure of nested elements.
"I'm not convinced going blockchain is going to be the right option." CCP received 40 Million in funding to create a game using blockchain technology. The game literally would not exist without it making use of that tech. So we can talk about whether or not the tech will be effective for the use purpose, but it's also important to understand there was never an option not to use blockchain, and also have production go forward on this project.
I’m personally curious about it and I’m looking forward to the upcoming playtest. However personally I don’t see how something like this can go right in practice
When I played I loved PvE in Eve Online. I have never liked PvP so most of the galaxy was not available to me, but I saw far too much cheating and Dev/mod corruption to ever trust CCP to run an MMO again. Alt account High security ganking. It was a toss up if you got your ship back or not. Tier 3 blueprint lottery was proven to be corrupt. Devs holding back blueprints to give to their friends. Bug reports ignored if you were from a faction the devs did not like (competing corporations)
Saying you're not a fan of "blockchain" is like saying you're not a fan of gearboxes in cars. Blockchain is just the technology underlying cryptocurrency and other crypto technologies. What you probably meant to say is that you're not a fan of cryptocurrency. Blockchain can be used for much more than currency.
Blockchain at it's root is just a way of using 'encryption' to define a read-only chain of ownership - my guess is that they have rebuilt the economy into the way that the blockchain ties itself together - theoretically it means that the economy calculates itself rather than requiring a server to iterate over the data to generate the economy. So making a transaction is the point at which the interrelationships are recalculated - like a graph database, but with the traceability/security of blockchain.
@@Rainbro359 in fact it does. Blockchain would provide an opportunity for the game to have an economy that is separate from and not controlled by CCP, because Blockchain at its core is just a distributed ledger that lets people transact without requiring trust between them. what people do with that ledger is what everyone in reality doesnt like.
@@douglasjerum4965 how would that work with a game, though? Everything is inherently centralised around the game: they'd be unable to control sales of item X, but they control what item X actually is. It's all just random data bits until the game devs tell the game that those bits mean item X. Creation of these items would remain centralised, use of items would remain centralised...but now one step of the chain is decentralised. People can trade digital receipts for items that no longer exist in game, I guess. I don't think that's worth it.
I like space-based games. My approach to this one will be very simple. I will try the game, I will either enjoy it and continue playing it, or I will not. Simple.
If the game gets poipular every bot farm + organized crime in the world will get in on it. Could be pretty sketchy and be used to launder money and all sorts of things. But anyway...I helped keep ISS alive in EVE back in the day, when the idea of independent public (and publiically traded) trade stations was ancient. I could see the appeal in this games pitch. I would probably start with a Gold standard; identify something available but very limited in-game, and easily transferrable, and use it as the currency via the gold standard, based on physical value.
Blockchain is just a public database of ownership with transactions. It makes game items tradable outside the game, that's it. It's just tech, there's no need to put so much focus on it. So y they should put more emphasis on what the game actually is.
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tBro you totally don't know a thing about blockchain and it is like totally going to be the next thing like white bread or Cannon Potter.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only blockchain.
Crytohammer 40k
And crypto scammers!
LOL
It's a good thing, because we need to figure out digital ownership, this could be the way. Imagine you brought a video game, some platform, publisher can just delete it because you never owned it.
@@EdwardG-el9fd right because all those Blockchain/NFT games are going to be around forever .... >.>
CCP has a great track record for new projects, lololololol
Dust 514 would have been a great game if they wouldn't have made it a damn PS3 exclusive
😂 True I mean they should Just take much of EVE Online’s mechanics and rules but where your the actual Pilot similar to Elite in a new MMO
@@nobody4y If Sony wouldn't paid them to make it PS3 exclusive. Sony knew it potential all along.
@@honeybadger9425 I wish, piloting and combat are somewhat unsatisfying in EVE, but the depth of simulation and systems in the game is what makes it really great.
Unfortunately, the only game CCP has succeeded with, was Eve Online.
They tried so very hard to move into other games… and they failed.
Still haven’t got a clue what the game is about….
Draining your bank account.
Exactly
@@SuperChaoticus LMAO it will be like "do you want to land planets? then pay me 30$ mountly and be omega"
Seriously. Was this just an ad?
Same as before, but based on survival... as he said in the video.
Ah yes, just what i've always wanted; an MMO that i have to code myself...
@@joshinspace3903 i mean, ultimately games need to make money, that i dont have an issue with in general, but yeah paying for an unfinished product is always a problem.
Its worse, all your code has to be minted, you pay CCP for the privlage of coding their game for them.
@@joshinspace3903 Anyone play Star Citizen
Make all space 0.0 in Eve online and you have a survival MMO right there
Did you play prior to CONCORD, Patrol ships and the weak gate/station guns? Cause Sarum Prime was one of the bloodiest battlefields in the game and it was about survival ;)
@@wrongway2370 Nah I started around when battleships got added. Regardless. Way before the Jita Incident
for years people proclaimed that blockchain is the solution... and still they haven't found a suitable problem for it
What if [thing] on blockchain?
They are editing selected books for a modern audience. Or ban selected others.
They can't do that with a permissionless, trustless and decentralized systems.
Same with audio, video, any kind of record keeping or audits.
I can deposit, withdraw, send or receive any amount of currency without a bank, or government asking questions or asking for their approval.
There are lots of projects already using blockchain solutions, but I agree it is early days, most blockchains are only a few years old after all.
@@brightwish blockchain has been around in one form or another since 2009. Any second now though, someone's gonna come up with a real, indisputable use for it.
(if you were already getting at this with sarcastic "a few years", then woops)
@@Rainbro359 The gaming industry has been around for over 50 years, the first smart contract blockchain (ETH) is only 9 years old, and most blockchains are a lot younger. It takes on average 3-5 years to develop a game, it is early days for blockchain games. Give it time. And there are real uses for blockchains, just look at Arweave, Uniswap, Nosana to name a few.
Yes, HTML is definitely a programming language and a backend tool...
The only similarity is the word "language"
I laughed so hard when he said it
I swear to god these youtubers that are completely clueless about most basic things are trying to make videos to "inform" people despite them themselves not having a slightest clue about how any of this works.
The block chain stuff is a massive turnoff for me.
Why. Explain what you understand by it
The blockchain cannot hurt you. People know fuck all about how innovative and broad it really is. Because they think crypto.. and pay to play and all that crap that came first. It is simply the next step just like the internet. People conflate blockchain with crypto. But it is TECH. Fast and incredibly versatile tech.
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 Nah. It's just a scam. Plain and simple.
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 The thing is that nothing innovative or interesting has actually been made with crypto.
When all we've seen so far, is bitcoin and hundreds of scams, of course people don't have faith in crypto. It has nothing to do with whether people 'get it', it has everything to do with the crypto bros never showing up to impress anyone with this tech.
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439Nah go watch Jauwn reviewing all the crypto slob and get back to me.
Given 'scam & grief' is pretty much rooted in the nature of the eve universe and its habitants, player having dev capabilities within the game will potentially lead to some fantastic IRL news headlines in the future.
I dream of a game like EVE but offline.
Excel?
Look at Astrox Imperium, or maybe even X3: Terran Conflict. If neither of those look good, and you are a fan of minecraft, maybe Avorion would be better suited. Which is a Voxel based sandbox with a full economy and tons of stuff to do, can be Single or Multiplayer
Sins of a Solar Empire has an Eve online mod, ships, techs, and game mechanics change to be closer to the Eve universe.
Actually pretty good.
Also apparently there's an X4 mod for eve too.
X4 is that game.
@@TheOfficialSethos as someone whose played both for a couple hundred/thousand hours, yes it is, there's even a mod to replace all the ship models with eve ones if you want
CCP: We're making money hand over fist! What should we do?
Players: Nothing? Be happy? Maybe improve your current game?
CCP: Crypto it is!
Players: ...
CCP has never made much money. The company has been stagnating for a long time and sold off years ago. They always catered to a hardcore niche market.
@@Diogenes76 that is untrue for sure look at all the fail games they have had etc some of which they sold..They have to have plenty of extra money to try an make all those fail games etc.
@@101spacecase Not really, they are dev shop and instead of putting Eve money back into Eve they just keep trying to innovate but their vision is antiquated.
Hell, it was so bad they ended up selling out. If they had strong financials, that would not have been necessary.
@@Diogenes76 They told once how much bank eve had to work with but I can't recall the number it was sold with those assets so who knows
Blockchain can be a useful technology for many things. Games are not one of them. If a game has a database, you can back up that database. If something in the game goes wrong, like an exploit flooding the ingame economy with something, whatever, you can just roll back, restore that back up of the database before things went south, everything's good.
With blockchain you're stuck with every bad thing that happens.
None of the positive things blockchain might bring to a game couldn't be done with a regular database.
you can do rollback with blockchain, but that defeats the purpose of blockchain :D
if it is tied to realworld currency, there will be problems for sure.
If there are money in it, it will be exploited and hacked...
@@Opfertod till now i never had enugh understanding of Blockchain. As i see it from now BC is more permanent than a regular Database?
You forget the main positive of this new game, money laundering
@@Opfertod Well... We could now get into a semantics argument if trying to restore the state of the game at an earlier point on a blockchain is really a "rollback"
You're not wrong though.
This guy discover the word roll back after blockchain ...go.learn some stuff before lill dude.
I can no longer muster any enthusiasm when a grand online space game is announced. After Star Citizen and Starfield, ED to a lesser extent, and all of the other, lesser failures, who could? The blockchain element is part of it, but even without it, CCP still has to deliver a good game and that seems less and less likely as time goes on.
I don't mind watching your reporting on it though Ant, you're just doing your job. Thanks and keep it up.
If this game natively & officially supports Real Money Transactions it'll likely eventually get hit by the same Know Your Customer & Anti Money Laundering rules that Crypto Exchanges have
Giving player's access to backend systems, what could possibly go wrong with that 😂
There needs to be some serious constraints on what a player can add. Imagine letting players just create instant death gates to keep people out of systems, or interceptor sized titans.
They tried to float this idea with the EvE player base awhile ago, it did not go over well. Nice to see that they took it to a separate game at least...
trying to rope in a different crowd of suckers to scam. I look forward to missing this title and expect it to be DOA like their space shooter game from forever ago.
@@Burningwithecstasy Yeah, their target audience is the people still clinging to EvE. And they rejected the blockchain pitch vehemently. It's honestly Pearl Abyss pulling the strings anymore anyway. The CCP that created and maintained the EvE that I loved for the first decade or so is a shell of what it once was.
@@Burningwithecstasy youtube disappeared my first reply, probably because I mentioned the company that made EvE. Either way, it's all Pearl Abyss pulling the strings behind the scenes now. The original company (That shall apparently not be named) is a shell of what it used to be.
Sadly it already seems they're sunsetting EVE Online proper now, we haven't had a major content update since invasion, just remaking FW thrice over and destroying the economy with scarcity.
@@TrampyPulsar Yeah, I agree. The scarcity. Choking the plex market to basically double in game cost for subs. Abyssal running used to be a really good way to make money, they have since upped the difficulty, and tanked the drop rates.
They also haven't been doing jack to really balance anything, or shift the meta. They used to constantly fine tune ships, now they just tackle UI issues, and nerf drop rates.
They had the recent null rework, that I honestly didn't even bother checking out, even though my acct is free to play. Its been dying for a long time now, though.
Dust514 seen chuckling in the corner.
and Legion, and the other FPS, and the VR fighter one
Ugh, this’ll be fun to report on my US 1040 income tax return.
The point of blockchain is that it's a safe way to store data in a way that makes it especially difficult to modify. Imagine 100 different people carrying copies of an accounting book, updating it together each time someone adds a new entry. Then imagine the difficulty it would be if someone wanted to fake an entry. You'd somehow have to get all 100 copies and change them all, and do it so that they're all identical all the while you do it in between new entries being added, since that would foul the order of entries, making it obvious that some of them have been tampered with.
It's a security feature, not something that is useful for gaming, so I'm not sure how this can be useful. I've never heard of a use for blockchain that is useful that isn't connected to moving money, directly or indirectly.
I played it, its EVE but with cryptoscam based economy.
You buy tokens from CCP to trade in game for fuel mining equipment
You need fuel to do anything in the game, including just being idle in space, effectively making the game pay per second.
Your ships and structures are NFTs
All of this so CCP can skirt RMT regulations by moving it out of their databases, though I don't think thats as big of a gotcha legal protection when a judge who barely understands how email works reviews a lawsuit against CCP for money laundering.
Never mind money laundering...just clarifying the multinational tax situation is going to be an amazing pain.
Tramp, you're in violation of NDA... and also misrepresenting the reality of the game.
Eve Frontier: "Looks beautiful!"
Eve Frontier: ***Mega-Fraud Hacker Paradise Simulator***; "Oh..... oh dear.... ***sigh***"
"modern sensibilities" for MMOs, live services, etc, are design the thing to milk the player for every cent, get them invested, and then shut down the whole mess when the bean counters no longer consider it profitable. Or when they get bought out by EA. At which point, it doesnt matter how much time or money youve invested, how active your guild is, or if you and your buddies are still having fun, your access to what youve paid for ends, permanently. And long before that, MMO "communities" become toxic and shun anyone who isnt rank and file in a raid army running cookie cutter builds. The blockchain tech is being used to make things "secure" by making private servers harder. When a game dev shows me I am not merely another cash cow to them by allowing me to host small scale multiplayer for me and my friends, without asking permission from their corporate servers, and I'll be able to do so forever, they get my money. These guys pushing this business model? They can pound sand.
If I can't sit in the cockpit of my ship and get immersed in the gameplay then I'm not interested no matter what the rest of the game is like. Until I see gameplay, I couldn't possibly care less.
I have to disagree here with you Obsidian. Just like Blizzard is no longer the company that made D2, CCP is no longer the company that made Eve Online in 2003. Calling it a respected game dev. studio is no longer valid. Everything Eve related should be laid to rest.
"Highly respected developers" Highly respected by people who have never played the games apparently.
Highly respected in the same way EA is respected. People may hate on the company, but they know it's at least producing something and not an outright scam.
@@Jeff55369 So EA but now with a cryptoscam
You’re not buying a game. You’re buying tools to do our work for us. In my view, this is not a good thing.
Giving players development tools AND cryptocurrencies? Yeah this will go completely smoothly and no catastrophic, gamebreaking stuff is ever gonna happen, right? Right??
Yeeeeeah... anyway, I'll bring popcorn.
It won't be game breaking... but it will destroy lives, lol
Gamers typically swipe left on any game once "blockchain" is mentioned. EVE's crowd could be a lil different though, given the economic intrigue that exists in EVE Online.
Space Blockchained Rust Roblox? O.K. septuple no thank you dectuple no thank you cause its from CCP with their incredible track record of keeping new projects alive.
what I really want is a single player story driven game in the Eve Online universe. Something like EverSpace 2 but with the combat and gameplay mechanics of Eve Online.
The combat mechanics of eve sucks. And has always sucked. There is practically no skill just lock and shoot. The skill comes into play when you make fleet doctrines, ship fits, run your own economy, etc.
1) What's the deal with custom currency cr@p? Just enable item swap and crude material will become the universal go-to currency, 3rd-party marketplaces will also pop up, forming a rudimentary "ecosystem".
2) Looks like it's going to be dupers' paradise. 😄
This might end up being the first PC game that can land you in federal pinion for fraud and/or grand theft.
Blockchain is an amazing solution to a problem that is yet to be discovered. And it's been the 'next big thing' for so long now, that I see fusion power becoming free and available for the entire planet before the blockchain-problem rears its head for the first time.
But, since they obviously want to be the next studio that fails to deliver on their grandiose blockchain promises, that's as good a reason as any to not support this product.
Yes so far there's not many crypto games but right now I've been playing Star Atlas it's MMO space gameplay and you can see how the players got creative with the game you get to download the tools and with bots you could use it for farm and craft
"Oh no Blockchain Technology", it's the implementation not the technology that needs to be considered.
А как Вы себе представляете игру на выживание, с 10 минутными лагами? или получасовыми, или с задержками транзакции на сутки, или полным откатом транзакции?
Leading with "It's based on blockchain technology" does not inspire any confidence in me. Neither does all the other projects they've tried and failed to make successful in the past.
I'll be sitting on the sidelines watching for news that it's actually worth my time. I did my time in all forms of space in EVE Online, but very much consider myself retired.
I see amazing graphics and I'm interested.
I hear 'blockchain' and I'm already over it.
Might be useful if you made a video on what block chain actually is? And how a game is made with it? What it means.
"giving players development tools".... CCPlease, have you ever met an EVE player? All I really want in a space game is basically EVE but with actual piloting like Elite Dangerous.
and interiors like star citizen
EVE is the reason I became a developer. Working with their API and marrying it to other data sources basically started my entire career.
There's a ton of EVE players that develop their own tools. Blockchain empowers those people to be a part of the development process. Sure a lot of people wont want to take part in that process, and they don't have to, but for those who do, giving them the ability to do so is a good move.
Elite Dangerous was almost exactly that game. It's a shame FDev are incompetent.
I was referring to the nature of eve players to exploit systems for fun and profit
Advanced money laundering: The game
Cant wait for the news headlines a year from now
Block chain?
Ick.
Count me outta here.
Just started watching and I was out at MMO. Seeing you say blockchain only has me doubling down on being out.
What is Blockchain
@@ovoj It's kind of an online shared database to deal with cryptocurrency and other information. NFT's are part of it too, which you may have heard of.
You'd be best looking it up for yourself, just don't fall for the hype. Lots of people, myself included think it has no place in gaming.
A game killer @@ovoj
@@mbostic5193 how. Describe what Blockchain technology is and how it kills games
Block chain would let them run portions of the game off the clients, peer to peer, and save a ton of money on power and servers.
Trading, crafting, item stats, etc
Lol, when you said 'block-chain' I paused, typed this and closed the video.
It will be a console exclusive if you look at the history of CCP side projects. Or cancelled. Or VR exclusive.
For those unaware here is a short snippet of UK law on Real Cash Economy games:
If a video game includes the ability to “cash out” a currency of real monetary value that may be won through skill or chance within the game, then it is likely that it will constitute gambling. This applies to cryptocurrencies and NFTs acquired in a video game that can be traded/sold outside of the video game itself.
This still applies if you can withrdaw real currency from a game regardless of how you obtain it.
F the UK and its laws. Oh noes they might try to extradite me for this 😂
@@JohnDoe-qv3rf Why would we need to extradite you when we wouldn't let you in in the first place. 😁
Its a good law.
@Elwaves2925 Oh i can do it all i want, since i am not a Brit. I mean you could Try and stop an American but geez that hasn't worked well for you Brits in the past huh? That whole getting your asses kicked in the revolutionary war all the way up to saving your asses in WW2 pretty much sums up how much you can force me to do 😁👍 But hey it's your Lodon police commissioner that claims he's gonna extradite us over things he doesn't like. I say try it 😁
The EvE servers are in the UK, and I very much doubt that CCP will set up a new server farm for Frontiers. Like it or not, UK law will come into play.
Blockchain is a ledger.. which is surprisingly on-point for a spreadsheets in space game.
You know what would actually be a revolutionary thing they could do, to ensure that Eve Online lived on forever and they got a lot of money?
Make a version that wasn't an MMO - make a Valheim-style version, which people could play solo or with friends. The same big galaxy, but with some actual NPC traffic and more dynamic behaviour (Freelancer-style, with factions patrolling and warring).
To put it another way, imagine if you could have Eve Online: GAMMA. Like, Stalker: GAMMA, but Eve Online - a big sandbox that was yours to play on your terms, and to mod, with tools for making new stories and quest chains, and the ability to simulate dynamic faction conflicts and the outbreak of major wars.
Because like many people, I love Eve. I played it back in 2004. I was briefly part of the "Aurora" team doing in-game events back in those ancient times. I love the lore, I love the setting, love the artwork, love the big-scale combat and the size of the ships.
But I really don't have time for a game that plays like a stressful job.
Anyone remember Dust 514?
Its been said over and over before, but this is really the end of EVE-O
Thanks for the update Obsidian,
yeah Hilmar tried to make Eve into blockchain but we all protested against it, he just simply won't let the idea go. Seems now he thinks that blockchain will allow people to work to play they game and make money, this is not a good way to go. Work is work and play is play they should never go together as it will destroy your fun.
Crypto with players creating their own currencies? I see zero ways this can go wrong
If you can buy the coins with real money, this will quickly devolve into an extremely pay to win game
Blockchain is just a decentralized log. It shouldn't even mean it's related with money at all, but maybe a way to track the history of what happens in the universe. Well, that's my hope anyway...
That's exactly what it is. Obviously it has options for money too... but game developers don't need to use blockchain in the actual game to have crypto payouts.
Great reivew as ever OA. Many thanks for showcasing this massive departure for CCP. I've been an occasional Eve player for the last 15 years... love it, sometimes hate it but can never leave it. To me the tease for Frontier is very vague.. i don't really get it. Programming? what's that? Blockchain? again, what's that? I'm intrigued to know more, hoping it's not just a crude play to win format.
Every. Single. Time. Blockchain games have been scams. I have yet to see any NFTs or assets that are actually true blockchain. They're all either fake or stuck in their own environments, which completely defeats the purpose.
Thats the issue, without context a string of ones and zeros are worthless. In the case of BC, it simply attributes your account with a number, but in the case of NFTs for a game, it requires the game to interpret and function, which means it has no advantage over a traditional inventory database, other than you don't need direct or indirect control of the database (I.E. trading an item via an auctionhouse/market/trade window in game), you can simply trade a token on the blockchain, but without the game itself, the token is worthless, like a DVD without a DVD player.
I just really worry about the ridiculous amount of RMT this is likely going to cause, even if the idea of alliances and corps having their own currencies, and therefore game-supported currency exchange being a thing, is exciting from a PvP point of view.
Atleast in the US, you have to report all your crypto trading for taxes. id assume anything you touch in a blockchain game will be a taxable event. kinda a nightmare.
These devs just can't seem to figure out what the buying public wants, even when we tell them over, and over, and over again.
Игры делают не для того чтобы их покупали, а для того чтобы покупали то, что продают.
Eve Online.
One of few successful games I call joyless.
It becomes a 2nd job.
It depends very much on how you play it, but you can easily get on the second job track, yes.
what is the game about? ya just talked about blockchains for 10 minutes.
Thats the thing, its just EVE with blockchain and crypto
It's a game about blockchain. You pilot a capsule made from blocks in a universe made out of chains.
The only thing CCP are really good at is creating trailers . Eve is now so outdated its not funny anymore and all they do nowdays is add more irrelevant crap instead of fixing the core game . Same exact pve missions for 20 years ffs .
Старая игра - это лучший способ заставить выбирать игрокам новые активности ... почему Вы не фармили Зарзах, вместо PVE-миссий?! Вам не нравится рыбалка?! Какая печаль! Может рынок крипто-мусора зайдет Вам?
I would like if ccp made a eve 2 with a more hands on aproach to the controling of the ship. Like something either like everspace 2 or star citizen/star wars battlefront
Unfortunately, CCP is heading a direction I’m not willing to go (Blockchain).
Nah, I guess Peter Molyneux's latest "Legacy" game was sort of a success. He collected (better: scammed) some 50 millions USD from investors pre-release.
Not regulating currency exchanges is so crazy. You have a mining faction built and a bunch of crypto tied up in the faction and one guy decides to pull alll of it out and there’s nothing that can be done about it? I can see this creating a problem
There WILL be a problem. And I really don ´t understand why CCP is doing this, literally even the worst AAA publishers got the memo, we do not want this play to earn crypto NFT trash. They are making very promising extraction shooter, they have one of the longest running MMO ever, they made sick trailer for Frontiers.. why absolutely ruin it? Sad. I would love good spinoff.
i'm a long time eve online player, sadly i will not be playing frontier for the blockchain reason
NFTs and Bitcoin? Nah.. I'm good. Just imagine the hacking that will take place in the game.
You can't hack NFTs nor Bitcoin...
@@kxrnelbut you can hack/bot the game to gain in-game valuable items to convert them into real world money. No need to “hack” bitcoin.
Sad and disgusting . A new eve would have been great but this will never see my hardrive .
A block-chain is just a non-falsifiable ledger. It is non-falsifiable because control of the ledger is distributed among it's users; no central party has control over it. You can use a ledger for all sorts of things. As we all know, it can be used for keeping track of monetary transactions, but you can record anything you like in a ledger, it doesn't have to be money. In this particular case, they are apparently using it to record in-game construction for some reason.
и зачем?! Ева - мир воров и психопатов, записывать историю их болезни?! Количество их жертв, количество потерянного времени и ресурсов ... где игра? Где то, за что можно вложить деньги, где нормальная(!) игра, а не социальный эксперимент в колонии рецидивистов без средств воспитания и интеграции в социум?!
@@ruby_linaris (Assuming Google translate works) You clearly despise EVE, so I don't see why you are here at all? Why are you looking at EVE videos and commenting on them? Go do something you enjoy instead!
@@sc_cintara Ева - хороший потенциал, фантастический мир, с интересным лором, но слабый разработчик, который делает предельно аморальный социальный эксперимент, а тут только потому, что был заявлен "фронтир", хотелось увидеть чему научились разработчики ... они научились ... продолжать делать мусорные игры, загоны для психопатов, а теперь и с крипто-шопоголиками.
@@ruby_linaris I don't know what you are going on about "doing an extremely immoral social experiment" (again, assuming google translate is working right)? It's just a game! Get some perspective! If you don't like the game, play something else. Let those that enjoy the game play of EVE play the game they like to play. If you don't play the game, what right do you have to try to influence it?
I will continue denying companies a purchase - who choose blockchain.
this is a really bad idea, CCP is going to encourage rage and sorrow when real money is involved and maybe money laundering then the police will get involved then bye bye game or even CCP! but this is just my take.
We will see 👀
"CCP will not regulate player to player transactions" - queue the countdown to it becoming a money laundering platform.
Also blockchain is slow
so how does the blockchain work in the game?
Those who invest in Blockchain have less understanding about the technology and definition of money.
Game is going to be built on blockchain.... And that's where I turned it off.
Oh boy. Not excited about this concept. The risk is just too high for the negative consequences. Reality and real currencies need to be separate from game economies.
This sounds like a fantastic calamity.
New space games: YES please! Online only: HELL NO!!
EVE is an MMO. MMOs are online only. I know modern gamers like to complain about "always online" and "live service" but... that's exactly what an MMO is. So if you don't like those types of games, you don't like MMOs. So this game will not be for you.
@mercster "so this game will not be for you" no shit sherlock i Think that was the OPs whole point
@@JohnDoe-qv3rf It's pretty idiotic to click on a video about an MMO and blather about "NO MORE ONLINE GAMES!"
@@mercster В этой "онлайн игре" большинство не выходят из дока, Вы обманываете, за последние полгода наблюдаю как корпорации мобилизуют несколько десятков капсулеров для проведения рейда и выселения мелкого offline-коллектива, большие взаимные столкновения больших корпораций, альянсов - больше миф, чем реальность, некого и нечего развивать, и некуда, везде не будет места и ресурсов, ССП позаботились о финансовом балансе космоса нищеты, порядка деградации.
The example of EVE players taking ISK from other players is a good one.
That is normal en EVE Online and fine, it is not real money.
But Krypto is!
If you take someone else's crypto, that is an actual crime in the real world.
Ева научила не сожалеть о потерях ISK, Frontire научит игроков не сожалеть о реальных преступлениях ... это будут прорыв в создании мира "Сумасшедшего Макса" в реальности.
Highly respected game developer... eh...
CCP has been trying to improve monetization in EVE for years now, and failing. SKINNER is the latest example of an attempt to get players to buy more PLEX and it not working. This new game is nothing more than an extension of that same goal. Squeeze more money from the player base. They can't monetize EVE any more than currently, so they're making a new game. It will suck. It will fail. Just like all of their other side projects. And I love EVE online.
SKINNR could have worked if it was just simple: farm pattern/pigments in game, buy a sequencer for personal/tradable/corp/alliance cost in PLEX, design your skin, sequence, enjoy.
The extra hoops are nonsense and the 20-30% mandatory tax is stupid.
I was a beta tester back in 2002. I was also part of CCP Polaris.
What a great game this was on the first 5 years.
Right after they started selling Plex and skill boosters for RL money.
At that stage I knew immediately it was about time for me to leave, because sooner or latter this type of shit was bound to happen.
ASA they changed from a subscription model to F2P+P2W the future of EVE was sealed.
Shame. It was prolly the best game I've ever played.
Yes! Let's gooo! Eve & Blockchain ftw!
Looking forward to a day players understand it's just a technology not some big scarey monster!
сколько монет Евы-Фронтир Вы купили на этот момент?! Покупайте, Покупайте Больше! Это не страшно, это всего лишь технология, монстров не существует!
HTML is a Markup Language, not a programming language (hence the ht-ML).
The difference is that you can't really write any logic (not in the traditional sense) - only define a structure of nested elements.
"I'm not convinced going blockchain is going to be the right option."
CCP received 40 Million in funding to create a game using blockchain technology. The game literally would not exist without it making use of that tech. So we can talk about whether or not the tech will be effective for the use purpose, but it's also important to understand there was never an option not to use blockchain, and also have production go forward on this project.
I’m personally curious about it and I’m looking forward to the upcoming playtest. However personally I don’t see how something like this can go right in practice
When I played I loved PvE in Eve Online. I have never liked PvP so most of the galaxy was not available to me, but I saw far too much cheating and Dev/mod corruption to ever trust CCP to run an MMO again.
Alt account High security ganking. It was a toss up if you got your ship back or not.
Tier 3 blueprint lottery was proven to be corrupt. Devs holding back blueprints to give to their friends.
Bug reports ignored if you were from a faction the devs did not like (competing corporations)
Saying you're not a fan of "blockchain" is like saying you're not a fan of gearboxes in cars. Blockchain is just the technology underlying cryptocurrency and other crypto technologies. What you probably meant to say is that you're not a fan of cryptocurrency. Blockchain can be used for much more than currency.
couldnt help but lol literally when you said 'programming language html5'.
My assumption is that they run the blockchain so they can control any aspect of it. Sounds like an attempt to build an Eve Oasis.
Blockchain at it's root is just a way of using 'encryption' to define a read-only chain of ownership - my guess is that they have rebuilt the economy into the way that the blockchain ties itself together - theoretically it means that the economy calculates itself rather than requiring a server to iterate over the data to generate the economy.
So making a transaction is the point at which the interrelationships are recalculated - like a graph database, but with the traceability/security of blockchain.
None of that requires blockchain, or even benefits from it.
@@Rainbro359 You can't edit a blockchain the same way as any SQL database.
@@Narueen technically, you can, if majority agrees with your edited version
@@Rainbro359 in fact it does. Blockchain would provide an opportunity for the game to have an economy that is separate from and not controlled by CCP, because Blockchain at its core is just a distributed ledger that lets people transact without requiring trust between them. what people do with that ledger is what everyone in reality doesnt like.
@@douglasjerum4965 how would that work with a game, though? Everything is inherently centralised around the game: they'd be unable to control sales of item X, but they control what item X actually is. It's all just random data bits until the game devs tell the game that those bits mean item X. Creation of these items would remain centralised, use of items would remain centralised...but now one step of the chain is decentralised. People can trade digital receipts for items that no longer exist in game, I guess. I don't think that's worth it.
I like space-based games. My approach to this one will be very simple. I will try the game, I will either enjoy it and continue playing it, or I will not. Simple.
Based.
For what I heard, they are trying to do a Roblox, Eve Online style
If the game gets poipular every bot farm + organized crime in the world will get in on it. Could be pretty sketchy and be used to launder money and all sorts of things. But anyway...I helped keep ISS alive in EVE back in the day, when the idea of independent public (and publiically traded) trade stations was ancient. I could see the appeal in this games pitch. I would probably start with a Gold standard; identify something available but very limited in-game, and easily transferrable, and use it as the currency via the gold standard, based on physical value.
If any game was going to do blockchain, it would have to be Spreadsheet online.
Utterly excited for new EVE game... Found out about NFT's, excitement level...0
Blockchain is just a public database of ownership with transactions. It makes game items tradable outside the game, that's it. It's just tech, there's no need to put so much focus on it. So y they should put more emphasis on what the game actually is.