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  • @thespiffingbrit
    @thespiffingbrit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +46648

    It took 2+ years and 1000+ patrons to send a man on the deepest research into a single video game ever conducted. Happy to have helped fund this madness

    • @planta3240
      @planta3240 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +632

      Woah, you're here? You put money into the patreon as well? Nice.

    • @ritwik1223
      @ritwik1223 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +579

      provided him all the yorkshire tea to help with the research?

    • @thespiffingbrit
      @thespiffingbrit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@planta3240 Of course! It is part of my continued plan of driving the other creators on the platform to various states of psychosis

    • @michaelwautraets7126
      @michaelwautraets7126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

      Holy shit, he's alive.

    • @thespiffingbrit
      @thespiffingbrit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have provided $210 worth of yorkshire tea which is roughly 8750 bags of tea@@ritwik1223

  • @jamesphillips3584
    @jamesphillips3584 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10950

    its 2023 and people are still finding new and obvious ways to push for that 10 minute mark

    • @johnnyaguilerajr4295
      @johnnyaguilerajr4295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +206

      this made me laugh 🐿️

    • @boy_girl_cat_party1824
      @boy_girl_cat_party1824 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

      This comment does NOT have the recognition it deserves

    • @TheVeritasForYou
      @TheVeritasForYou 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      underrated comment 😂

    • @trippasnippa119
      @trippasnippa119 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

      shameless really... i hope all those 1000 patrons get their money back.

    • @CharlesSantana69
      @CharlesSantana69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      OMG!!!!! Top Tier comment

  • @Thailerr
    @Thailerr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +188

    Me before clicking on this video: "Oh cool, I wonder what Eve was like in the early days!"
    Beginning of the video: "AT THE DAWN OF THE INTERNET!"

    • @therockbottom5256
      @therockbottom5256 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      “VR chat was invented in 1992” WHAT

    • @tanathosXX
      @tanathosXX 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      same thing here :-D and now I'm at the 45min mark, still going on because I'm curious to How JITA 4.4 was born

    • @therockbottom5256
      @therockbottom5256 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tanathosXX I knew if I didn’t get out early I’d be stuck till the end too 😭

  • @lightknightgames
    @lightknightgames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1036

    I love the natural power scaling
    9 months to make a ship, and two hours later, there's like 10 of them in one fight

    • @casaleiasallet1176
      @casaleiasallet1176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

      i mean happened with nukes irl basically, same with dreadnaughts for a bit

    • @ponivi
      @ponivi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      To be fair, the new ship is a race, so a lot of people are ready immediately after the first

    • @o0GodZila0o
      @o0GodZila0o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Now imperium have over 1000 in their super fleet 😂

    • @KyleHerrera106
      @KyleHerrera106 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      yeah cause they were all building them simultaneously. Kinda obvious.

    • @KyleHerrera106
      @KyleHerrera106 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      it's like the 24 hours of le mans. 24 hours to drive the distance but there are ten more there moments later.

  • @cuppajj
    @cuppajj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3559

    Being the first corp to create the game-changing, earthshattering Titan ship and naming it Steve is such a power move

    • @higgsbonbon
      @higgsbonbon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +333

      The neutron star-powered planet killer hyperstation;
      *_B I G C H U N G U S_*

    • @2-pistols
      @2-pistols 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      That, and it's from a movie over the hedge probably

    • @jupiter--system
      @jupiter--system 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      I haven't watched the video yet but Ascendant Frontier named it after Steve Irwin, who had died recently.

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      Having it destroyed with help from the devs is a major pussy move on the other hand. Means that you need to call daddy to help you hold down someone alone in an alley to jump them.

    • @joseywales6168
      @joseywales6168 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      and then Bob killed him, I love gamer naming

  • @snrd3r
    @snrd3r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3044

    I just love that these players have all kinds of sci-fi names while one of the pivotal moments in the history of the galaxy was Steve's destruction at the hand of BOB

    • @boarfaceswinejaw4516
      @boarfaceswinejaw4516 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +547

      personally im a big fan of how the "clusterfuck alliance of the Goon Swarm" rebranded to "Imperium" for branding purposes.

    • @jackstander4519
      @jackstander4519 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Come to nulsec and talk that sh1te scrub

    • @juancanekortegasanchez7961
      @juancanekortegasanchez7961 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      very twin peaks

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      @@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Especially since "Goon Swarm" takes on an entirely different meaning now than it did over a decade ago.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      I helped build Steve. I am not sure if this detail is mentioned in the video or not but even better is Steve the titan was named after Eh Steve in homestar runner. It's a good juxtaposition of a very silly name in a very pivotal moment in the game's history

  • @oldmr.boston1237
    @oldmr.boston1237 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +720

    In '03, when I was 51 I decided to give EvE a try as I was convalescing. 20+ yrs later I am a proud Septuagenarian and still play. This extended video has me nostalgically reminiscing and I am not sure if I will sleep well with the flood of memories of events and people long gone but not forgotten. Thanks for all your fantastic work putting this chronologically correct piece together.

    • @altdefcon
      @altdefcon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      i’d say you’re pretty tech savvy for your age, with no offense meant of course. how old are u btw?

    • @drinkmorecocacola
      @drinkmorecocacola 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@altdefcon2003 - 2024 + 51

    • @OminousOmelet
      @OminousOmelet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@altdefcon 51 + 21 = 72 (sorry, couldn't help myself)

    • @Legit_SuperFall
      @Legit_SuperFall 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Godspeed man. Keep going.

    • @eccodreams
      @eccodreams 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      What an incredible legacy you've helped weave. Thank you for being a part of this incredible journey!

  • @LeuNoeleeste
    @LeuNoeleeste 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1390

    I have 0 idea of what the fuck I'm supposed to do with this near-academic level of informations about nerds fighting virtual wars in virtual space, but I was captivated by it all. Holy shit

    • @josephyoung6749
      @josephyoung6749 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      me too never played video games but still found this whole video interesting

    • @riveteye93
      @riveteye93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      meditate up on it, seeing the truth about the nature of man and the world

    • @Xenomorthian
      @Xenomorthian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@josephyoung6749 Trust me this is beyond the level of what video games are normally like

    • @mirandah.2714
      @mirandah.2714 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I really love learning the history of things especially game development especially since it relates to my career it’s so fun

    • @alexioshjkl6170
      @alexioshjkl6170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      when it comes to eve he hasnt even scratched the surface.

  • @VeggieBrah
    @VeggieBrah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3604

    Its like Star Wars but every single character is on the spectrum.

    • @shirotatsu1
      @shirotatsu1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      I love this comment so much, lol

    • @Sharphe
      @Sharphe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Always thought Luke had the tism but maybe that's me

    • @Graystoak-OG
      @Graystoak-OG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes.. Most of us are.

    • @mothshroum
      @mothshroum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      So it's like Star Wars

    • @JulianMakes
      @JulianMakes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is 100% true

  • @Vekuyo
    @Vekuyo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2424

    Spent a good 5 years in game, but only ever heard small rumors and mentions of the bigger events playing out. Its wild knowing just how much drama and intrigue was actually going on out there a thousand systems away while I was working in a tiny contracted mining corp in Red territory arguing over what rock would make us the most money that week.

    • @Kaustic26
      @Kaustic26 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +569

      It’s crazy when you think about it, you were a normal working man, 9-5 mining for cash and you’re having normal conversations and valuing the simple things and there’s just an insane war happening somewhere else in the universe and you just had murmurs and whispers. You literally lived another life

    • @neondystopian
      @neondystopian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +385

      Because it's really close to real life. That's what you're doing, right now. Working your little job, living your little life, while massive events go on around you. It's creepy, tbh, but in a enjoyable way

    • @ZackTheGiant
      @ZackTheGiant 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

      Truly a nonfiction sci-fi, eh?

    • @rofa6086
      @rofa6086 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

      Day in the life of a Star Wars background character lol

    • @grahamdixon1699
      @grahamdixon1699 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      You get the same feeling when you study modern history.

  • @jackalobowaitthisnameistaken
    @jackalobowaitthisnameistaken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2531

    Dude I love how thorough you are.
    "They called the Titan Steve"
    "Lol okay"
    "The origins of this name are contested"
    "Wait what?"

    • @flamesnfury777
      @flamesnfury777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      1st comment

    • @nigelwest5776
      @nigelwest5776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I wish I could like this comment but it has 666 likes

    • @dmtrip7965
      @dmtrip7965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nigelwest5776you can now

    • @matt_r.2510
      @matt_r.2510 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@nigelwest5776 Your master has failed. It's now 863.

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matt_r.2510we must bring it to 1337

  • @CubicMathTime
    @CubicMathTime 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1217

    GoonFleet becoming GoonSwarm, then CFC, and then The Imperium reminds me of the gag in History of the Entire World where Bill says “Here comes the Assyrian Empire- nevermind, it's the Babyloni- Media- It's the Persian Empire!”

    • @Squirl7504
      @Squirl7504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      +

    • @Airbigbawls
      @Airbigbawls 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      The very first gooners

    • @elevate07
      @elevate07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wow that's... big

    • @CubicMathTime
      @CubicMathTime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@elevate07you could make a religion out of this

  • @GeremyG
    @GeremyG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2626

    I love hearing people's online usernames in these historical documentary type scenarios.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Yes!

    • @njdss4
      @njdss4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +219

      It's like when watching a Summoning Salt video and seeing a name like jimmypoopins talked about with such reverence.

    • @Maxjk0
      @Maxjk0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

      "and victory was achieved, by Lenny Kravitz 2"

    • @devinbaird2470
      @devinbaird2470 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      ​@@Maxjk0Yes, LennyKravtiz2 always took me out lol

    • @TheLuckyDime
      @TheLuckyDime 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      “No one would ever expect the historical significance of the actions that boobyLicker69 would take on that day, it would echo for years…”

  • @fpsvoltage3005
    @fpsvoltage3005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1963

    i think the world of EVE is the closest thing to a true alternate world inside a game. it has history, culture, wars that span years, it has diplomacy, trading, crisis management, criminals, heroes and celebrities, drama . i understand why some people would put so much time into that game.

    • @Weromano
      @Weromano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      looking forward to star citizen one upping eve in ten years at the earliest XD

    • @CriticoolHit
      @CriticoolHit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

      @@Weromano I'm hoping we'll see the creators of star citizen on JCS getting their arrest interviews picked apart for what will be one of the biggest scams in history.

    • @Beastlordius
      @Beastlordius 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      @@CriticoolHit I love to see people calling it a scam while there is playable game, even more so as it turns out their main team was working on Squadron 42 all these years and having SC as secondary project (what was said will happen firsthand in begining of paetron) Having over 2k people working for the company also is not small feat to pay wages for everyone. And now on top of that we have their game engine that will be published for others to use as Unreal, Unity etc.
      If it would be scam, at least scam on level to warant an arrest, you would not be able to play the game, it would be just never ending showcases with no product.

    • @CatGravityWell
      @CatGravityWell 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      At risk of delivering Star Citizen a grievous and unwarranted insult,
      Counterpoint: Dream World.

    • @Weromano
      @Weromano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@CriticoolHit If this was a scam, it would be the most inefficient one in history…

  • @teaguejelinek4038
    @teaguejelinek4038 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +335

    Very interesting how the game starts as many small powers and eventually evolves to a point of no going back where theres only 2-4 major powers.

    • @LifesNeverHumDrum
      @LifesNeverHumDrum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      That’s capitalism, baby

    • @ullrich
      @ullrich 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      It kind of seems like a lot of that had to do with in-game changes the devs made to sort of force it in that direction, though. Or at least, it seems like they made the transfer of power, territory, and resources harder to achieve by smaller factions, so larger, more powerful factions had to form.

    • @grimble4564
      @grimble4564 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I guess it is interesting but also that's like all of history, and not just human history. Life isnt just a numbers game but 90% of it is.

    • @bb_arcadia5752
      @bb_arcadia5752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@LifesNeverHumDrum that's society guy nothing to do with economic models lol

    • @LifesNeverHumDrum
      @LifesNeverHumDrum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@bb_arcadia5752 idk I think my summation is apt considering the evolution of the game is economically motivated

  • @Sykroid
    @Sykroid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    In a way, a lot of this is what happened to the internet itself. It was just an endless chaos of small sites with drama and seperation that got devoured by larger entities until finally we have a handful of giant sites, with nothing new entering the game. It's just another story of the wild west being tamed

    • @Anonymous95202
      @Anonymous95202 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There's a common theme here that starts with a C and ends in a APITALISM

  • @cptnqusr
    @cptnqusr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +723

    “Completion of Steve heralded war” is one of the greatest sentences ever written

    • @IMModusOperandi
      @IMModusOperandi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      "The power of Steve the Titan blunted their advance simply with the threat of its presence" is also a good one

    • @Gwennerini
      @Gwennerini 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@IMModusOperandiAny line involving Steve, it’s power and the reverence of its power is a good line.

    • @mycroft16
      @mycroft16 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@Gwennerini Came to say this. Steve will forever hold an unassailable position of awe and reverence in New Eden.

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      meow meow, purr

  • @jeroenvannijnanten9802
    @jeroenvannijnanten9802 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2205

    This is not a rabbit hole. This is the Mariana Trench.

    • @Squirl7504
      @Squirl7504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      +

    • @mattiismouse1086
      @mattiismouse1086 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Down the wormhole

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@mattiismouse1086 I love that the occupants are called "wormholers".

    • @HieronymousLex
      @HieronymousLex 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Why is everyone so afraid to admit that this is Fred’s worst video by far? Because he took two years and a bunch of money to make it?
      Tell me, honestly, with a straight face, that this shit isn’t like having a stroke trying to follow it. It’s incredibly dry and info-dumpy, it’s his shoddiest work and it doesn’t compare. All his other videos suck you in, this one drives you away. But everyone acts like it’s his magnum opus because 2 years bro… be real with yourself. It’s garbage for his standards.
      Should’ve been cut into a series of more manageable story threads. And that way, there wouldn’t have been a 2 year content drought either. Nobody can honestly say this video is better for being a one-parter

    • @imshid
      @imshid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HieronymousLexcan your autistic brain not pace itself or have any patience? Don't watch it all for 5 hours straight and expect to remember everything.

  • @Graystoak-OG
    @Graystoak-OG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    As a 10 year veteran (08-2018) I comend your efforts here. It was a true trip down memory lane. You have my sincerest gratitude and respect for this project. Thank you.

  • @AdamGaffney96
    @AdamGaffney96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    28:00 It is intensely funny that the devs said they wanted to made a hyper-capitalist economy in their game, and then were shocked when almost all the factories were bought up by speculators and not productive members.

    • @randomguy019
      @randomguy019 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Even in systems where the value something has is not entirely the product of the social contract, you will still need systems in place to make being productive more profitable than rent-seeking.

  • @YuubiTimberwolf
    @YuubiTimberwolf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +525

    My father played EVE Online and holy hell, i do remember some wars that happend because he loved to share his current adventures whenever we visited, we were not interested to play (it looked too complex) but he stories he told were amazing
    He was on a trade route in the middle of the night when Steve got destroyed and screamed us awake when he got the message. He was one of the people outside the cooperation did trades that funded the creation of Steve

    • @tyranneous
      @tyranneous 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      As a former Eve player from back in those days, I've got to say the stories are incredible (as demonstrated with this video).
      However, hearing that it was your father who played suddenly makes me feel very, very old. ;)

    • @YuubiTimberwolf
      @YuubiTimberwolf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I was like 13 when it happend and just started playing online games, so yeah, sorry to make you feel old :'D

    • @cumpanions8105
      @cumpanions8105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That sounds lame 😂😂

    • @_loss_
      @_loss_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wholesome

    • @jenstrudenau9134
      @jenstrudenau9134 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So this is how people become furriest? These stories ain't worth it.

  • @jebus9001
    @jebus9001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1096

    I like how the interview with the "pirate" at 1:58:30 is literally like
    Fred: How do you feel about your role as a pirate and law breaker?
    Player: It's just PvP dude. It's a game.

    • @noahhamilton9004
      @noahhamilton9004 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +162

      Is only game, why you have to be mad?

    • @ruxenus2444
      @ruxenus2444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Why does it look like as if he treated bots better than players? xd

    • @Kurai_69420
      @Kurai_69420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      He got told to touch grass by an online space pirate

    • @wingspantt
      @wingspantt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

      As an Eve player, it's funny. Highsec players play the game to relax. Lowsec pilots play for PVP. Nullsec pilots play for political drama. Wormhole pilots are batshit crazy.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      @@wingspantt "Highsec players play the game to relax. Lowsec pilots play for PVP. Nullsec pilots play for political drama. Wormhole pilots are batshit crazy."
      Lol I wish this was in the description box with no other information. Just this & a 5+ hour video, sitting g there, dauntingly.

  • @draicor
    @draicor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Wow, this documentary should be mandatory for anyone playing EVE online.. its like a tutorial, gameplay video and documentary all in one.. bravo..

  • @anantrawat2311
    @anantrawat2311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    im hearing this while doing some work, and it sounds like im hearing a documentary from the future about factions, trades and war in interstellar space, its amazing

  • @DarkVeghetta
    @DarkVeghetta 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +950

    12 year EvE vet here (not a bittervet). I just wanted to note that EvE's launcher now features this video with the tag line: "NEW EVE DOCUMENTARY".
    I didn't see said tab earlier in the day, so it's likely they've added it within the past 12 or so hours (for people in the future, it's now 03.XI.2023, ~1 AM UTC).
    Funny enough, I had this video open in my tabs for a few hours, but had not watched it, then I log into EvE and see it featured on the launcher... it was rather surreal.

    • @Sangheilitat117
      @Sangheilitat117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

      It's interesting, I opened the launcher this morning and saw that as well. With how bad it makes CCP look over decisions with DUST 514, WoD, and the like, I wonder if they (CCP) actually watched the video before putting that link up.

    • @biuliu7157
      @biuliu7157 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad you're here

    • @itsdabees
      @itsdabees 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      ​@@Sangheilitat117i doubt it. Its like theyre saying "come look at all of our bad decisions"

    • @jackspedicy2711
      @jackspedicy2711 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

      most big video game companies have absolutely horrible reputations, from EA to blizzard to all the other ones. So this video is just a free advertisement and a really cool entertaining video helping to enrich peoples experience of playng eve. Bad decisions are a normality, and this video makes them seem better then other game devs at least to me as someone who has not played eve since this video tells me they have a functional game, no terrible lootboxes or microtransactions, and a democraticly elected council of advisors from the playerbase. What other company even listens to their fans? and this one has player elected advisors. To me it makes them seem better then most game devs

    • @TheRedHaze3
      @TheRedHaze3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@jackspedicy2711 Old School RuneScape allows players to vote on the direction of the game, provided they have a certain amount of in-game skill levels (to prevent people from botting the polls).

  • @nathansmith1085
    @nathansmith1085 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1766

    He is a genius! To prevent streamers from stealing and "reacting" to his video, he made it so long they probably wouldn't bother

    • @SyncF
      @SyncF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

      Sure worked on XQC lmaooooo

    • @fostena
      @fostena 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

      I don't know, I wouldn't put it past them to put up the video and then watch it while periodically eat, go to the bathroom etc...

    • @X-SPONGED
      @X-SPONGED 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      They could just play the video and then leave for 5 hours

    • @MAKESOME
      @MAKESOME 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      He actually gave them permission to stream it on Twitter

    • @javsandarts
      @javsandarts 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      He literally said he wont mind

  • @TheOldSchoolCrisis
    @TheOldSchoolCrisis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +214

    This right here is why I am willing to wait YEARS for another Down the Rabbit Hole video. I always hope it won't be another year+ between uploads, but as long as you don't abandon TH-cam entirely I WILL wait as long as it takes and always come back.

    • @DefenderOfVirginity
      @DefenderOfVirginity 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yup. he's literally the only channel that I will never unsubscribe from.
      i have no idea whether he's making another video or he's done for good, yet I wait patiently every single time

  • @thatguykalem
    @thatguykalem 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    03:29:00 oh god I remember receiving the pings to get online for the B-R battle. Jabber went absolutely nuts and the level of confusion was huge. It was a mad dash to get online, get geared up and get into a fleet. There was total hysteria on text and voice chat - the level of excitement and tension gave it the same energy as a riot breaking out. We didn’t have good information at that early stage about what was actually happening and whether any fights were going to kick off. Once we got on and saw the player count in B-R and the size of the fleets we were fielding, it was absolutely unreal.
    I think I still have screenshots from that battle somewhere. Forever one of the craziest and most memorable experiences I’ve ever had in a videogame.

    • @Graystoak-OG
      @Graystoak-OG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I caught wind of it on reddit. Managed to load the system and as least be there lol.

    • @Lone_Wolf_91
      @Lone_Wolf_91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😮

    • @DarkRavenhaft
      @DarkRavenhaft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Only thing I remember about B-R5RB is TiDi being so bad I was able to shower and have breakfast in the time it took to reload my siege launchers.

    • @IsfetSolaris
      @IsfetSolaris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​ @DarkRavenhaft Good times lol
      I distinctly remember the leader of my little group of dreads telling us to "siege up and then go take a bathroom break and grab food, we should be ready to fight by the time you get back".
      B-R has this reputation as a big dramatic battle, but we really did just sit around staring at one another for hours and hours waiting for modules to cycle lmao

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IsfetSolaris@thatguykalem What side were you guys on?

  • @Koreryn
    @Koreryn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +721

    My best friend played EVE Online and got me into it. He played it for over 10 years. He recently passed away and would have loved to see this compilation of history about it. I am watching it in memory of him.

    • @musicobsessive123
      @musicobsessive123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      im sorry to hear that ❤

    • @Coreterra
      @Coreterra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Pay attention, capsuleer, for those who have gone before you call for you to join them.
      The cyno is now lit.

    • @alexanderprokudin1218
      @alexanderprokudin1218 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My condolences. You're remembering him in the most respectful way.

    • @pneuma7202
      @pneuma7202 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm sorry for your loss.

    • @JohnSmith-ox3gy
      @JohnSmith-ox3gy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      o7 may you wake up in a better place covered hydrostasis fluid, capsuleer.

  • @DAFIZZIF
    @DAFIZZIF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +535

    The casinos becoming the biggest threat after not being mentioned for a few hours is the greatest twist of all time.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      When that winet person was talking a bunch of shit, I had this feeling that I want isk was not capping. should have known the resources they had would have been vast

    • @augustokonrad3572
      @augustokonrad3572 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Also, when the Imperium goes back to the roots almost a decade and half later as Goonswarm by sending a swarm of ships against PAPI...
      Pure Kino

    • @medliinvas
      @medliinvas 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i swear i scrolled down for a short break, i see this and then it literally just got to that part LMAO amazing

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      That's the thing, CCP acts as if this was unexpected. They often talk as if EVE was a real world and an academic worthy social experiment. But the very concept of a hyper capitalist society is already known to end up like that. Competition leads to an eventual cartel of highly concentrated groups and stratification of society.
      In other words, if they really wanted to analyze New Eden seriously, they would know that this was the natural outcome. People and groups dedicated to accumulating wealth enough to fund wars and to control the flow of the galaxy. Creating a ultra free market ends up like that, they can try to reset things by removing the cassinos but it will just happen again. It's the natural flow of the system they created.

    • @Sajuek
      @Sajuek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LuizAlexPhoenix The problem was that by allowing these casinos they would be actually be facilitating RMT to the tune of tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars which can quite quickly even become cover for actual real world money-laundering. And that is a good way to get the attention of financial regulators or even risk your relationship with PayPal/credit card providers. Jagex had a similar problem at one point.

  • @happycat4838
    @happycat4838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    "The intelligence division C.L.I.T." made me laugh way harder than it should have

  • @caustic1611
    @caustic1611 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Archival work like this is no small feat, and is so so appreciated. Preserving digital spaces, and the stories that go with them will always be important to me, as well as many others.

  • @skatterbrainednori5794
    @skatterbrainednori5794 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +694

    Only Fredrik Knudsen can get me to sit down for 6 hours to learn all about a game I've never heard of before and keep me enraptured with how he narrates it. Phenomenal work

    • @JezebelIsHongry
      @JezebelIsHongry 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Play. Just to give context to this amazing video.
      Make sure to find both Empires of Eve books

    • @stevenbeckwith6307
      @stevenbeckwith6307 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Never heard of this one? Yeah nah I gave WoW a bit of go but didn't really get too far into it. I considered EvE but it just seemed too complex for 12 yr old me. Would honestly take to theoretical physics faster than EVE Online.

    • @SushiElemental
      @SushiElemental 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I got a friend who plays this - gotta ask him tomorrow if he already watched this as well.

    • @DarkVeghetta
      @DarkVeghetta 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@stevenbeckwith6307 The average age of the playerbase is probably ~40, with plenty being in their 50s and comparatively fewer 20 year olds here and there. You have time. We'll likely still be here in a decade.

    • @MrTomSpencer
      @MrTomSpencer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      How is it possible to NOT have heard of EVE? 🤨

  • @marcusaureliusantoninus3174
    @marcusaureliusantoninus3174 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

    1:41:06
    "A participant of X leaving for Y increases the I.Q of both groups."
    This is genius and I am stealing it.

    • @MrFrogsie
      @MrFrogsie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I already know this is leaving from EvE to WoW

    • @FlyingKlutchKick
      @FlyingKlutchKick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrFrogsieboth games are trash foh

    • @ninjacell2999
      @ninjacell2999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@doublewhopper67its much older than that lol. commonly used about Scotland and England hahah

    • @whom382
      @whom382 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ninjacell2999 I know it for a 40+ year old joke involving two US states though the Scotland/English one is probably older.

    • @stefanalexanderlungu1503
      @stefanalexanderlungu1503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@whom382 I heard it about the Oakies leaving for California

  • @Coldfire242
    @Coldfire242 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Never forget that Viggo’s son’s friend in the first JOHN WICK was playing DUST 514 in the safe house when John sniped him.

  • @sterlingwbishop
    @sterlingwbishop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I watched this video and decided to give this game a try.
    Six months later, I’ve made some of the coolest friends ever and continue to spend my nights in New Eden. Truly an unparalleled experience.

  • @ASH4Ix
    @ASH4Ix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3854

    Dude returns after 2 years with a 6 hour video. Legend.

    • @RichardCox0
      @RichardCox0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      I just noticed the length and I'm in awe

    • @Squids_MacKenzie
      @Squids_MacKenzie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

      Fredrik Knudsen has a good habit of only making things as long as they need to be. I mean, hell, he condensed the whole sonichu saga to about 20 minutes.
      I can't wait to figure out how fucking crazy this topic is that he couldn't make it shorter.

    • @TylerChristensen69420
      @TylerChristensen69420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      I've been following this project for a year and a half and it's absolutely bonkers how many times he had to push it back for quality purposes. Love that he has the balls to admit that it ain't up to his standards

    • @linuxstreamer8910
      @linuxstreamer8910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      true also eve online is a very deep hole

    • @jtekholm
      @jtekholm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Took him all that 2 years to make it I guess :D

  • @Wolf-dx1cl
    @Wolf-dx1cl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1354

    Born too late to participate in EVE online
    Born just in time to watch a 6 hour down the rabbit hole video about it

    • @brianchristopher8843
      @brianchristopher8843 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

      It's never too late bro. Eve is alive and well. Now is perhaps one if the best times to join in.

    • @fz7788
      @fz7788 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Eve is still alive

    • @Palatine-Knight
      @Palatine-Knight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Yeah it's never too late. Especially now that Skill Injectors are a thing.

    • @Sajuek
      @Sajuek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      People were saying in 2006 that it is too late to join EVE because you will never catch up.
      Lol
      LMAO

    • @CloakyStargazer
      @CloakyStargazer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      How is it too late? The game is still running and thousands of people are playing. If you're thinking "but I'm way behind the older players!", you've got it all wrong, sprinting to the endgame in a linear progression to "really start playing" isn't how EVE works. You learn slowly and the ships you fly at the start don't stop being useful later. It's normal for veterans to fly low tier/small ships in many situations, and you can be almost immediately useful to multiplayer fleets even as a relative noob. EVE is a journey, not a race.

  • @SergioNehama
    @SergioNehama 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    For the first time in my life i felt like i needed to watch the end credits roll by as a token of respect and gratitude for this epic work.

  • @stephenh9483
    @stephenh9483 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Written, Produced, Narrated and Editeted by ONE PERSON this is fucking phenomenal. Brilliant

  • @dylanl3020
    @dylanl3020 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +754

    As someone who has their entire playtime of EVE inside of wormholes, it's nice to actually get mentioned since we tend to get overlooked a fair bit when it comes to the game at large.

    • @stupidflandrs4856
      @stupidflandrs4856 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      Do you have anything you'd want to add when it comes to wormhole space? That was definitely something I was interested in hearing bits from throughout the video (I don't play EVE)

    • @ADEtheMayhem
      @ADEtheMayhem 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Give us stories

    • @admiralackbar4767
      @admiralackbar4767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ADEtheMayhem Okay i tell you one. One day our POS manager left the wormhole with 500 Million in loot to sell it and he did. But the WH collapsed behind him. So noone was left at the wormhole and the WH POS only had 1 week of fuel left. We had to search for our wormhole system for 6 days with untold dangers from other players to get back to it and refill the wormhole POS. That one week, and the untold billions of loot and ships we had left there. The POS manager who left the WH and searched for it 6 days was mentally destroyed, even after managing to get back. The stress was so much for him he left the game for good. Never seen one person break, his whole EvE existence was in that WH and the possibility to lose it all, was just to much stress for him to handle reallife.

    • @Sl1mTheRapper
      @Sl1mTheRapper 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      lol thats why i left holes

    • @numinous2506
      @numinous2506 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You're popular! Tell us more!

  • @cmwh1te
    @cmwh1te 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1172

    I now understand the history and politics of EVE better than those of the real world. Thank you, Fred.

    • @bepd
      @bepd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Check out Adam Curtis if you want some fun documentaries on irl politics

    • @user-tx7qm3ml8n
      @user-tx7qm3ml8n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      This video is OK but only covers a tiny part of EVE

    • @Hiforest
      @Hiforest 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-tx7qm3ml8nwhat's missing?

    • @malkavthemad4249
      @malkavthemad4249 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Real politics, some people want to something and the other people don't, every so often a new thing comes up, then the then everyone swaps places. Carry on infinitely into the future.

    • @justinbailey2347
      @justinbailey2347 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bepdHypernormalization goes so hard.

  • @legithopecrew
    @legithopecrew 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Watched it in one setting and never found a single part of it dull. Incredible work. Thanks for taking me on this journey.

  • @ponivi
    @ponivi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    seeing zecora in the background during extended quotes multiple times was absolutely hilarious, those peeps chose a fantastic image

    • @JustRandomSymbols
      @JustRandomSymbols 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You meet bronies in most unexpected places

    • @ponivi
      @ponivi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JustRandomSymbols Yeah. Like in the borderlands 2 credits

    • @prot07ype87
      @prot07ype87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      *Brohoof. /)*

    • @ponivi
      @ponivi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prot07ype87 (\

    • @lookstothetroon
      @lookstothetroon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YWNBAW

  • @Clckz
    @Clckz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +964

    Six hours of material.
    Around two years of work.
    Your dedication to your craft is absolutely mindblowing.
    You're an absolute legend, Fredrik. I'm so glad I found you.

    • @FeiFongWang
      @FeiFongWang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Idk man, 2 years for a 6 hour documentary sounds ridiculous to me. There are TH-camrs that make hour long vids every week like YourFavoriteSon. Especially since the history of Eve is so well documented.

    • @jose.montojah
      @jose.montojah 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      We almost lost him to Eve online

    • @laughingseal2282
      @laughingseal2282 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Darksydephil said Fred Knudsen quit and implied he scammed people lol.

    • @decorumlopez9147
      @decorumlopez9147 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@laughingseal2282Eh, Fred did enjoy the good life with Jabroni Mike. And there's that, uh, owl avatar arc.

    • @tubz
      @tubz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@FeiFongWangyeah and those TH-camrs have entire teams to help them with every single aspect of the video production including research. this is like two people

  • @TheJackMouse
    @TheJackMouse 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +465

    My father played this religiously as I was growing up. All those little ships, distant suns, and little mechanical icons were a constant motif that accompanied my whole growing up. I am *thrilled* to see a deep dive on it by the man who deep dives for a hobby.

  • @judebreheny3925
    @judebreheny3925 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I just imagine the developers in June 2011 reading "Greed is good?" on the front page of their magazine, and then being laid off four months later.

  • @blackhueymedia
    @blackhueymedia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    2004-2018 bittervet. I remember watching the reports from B-R at work, racing home and jumping into the fight a couple of hours before downtime. I spent the whole Fountain war on the front line and was flying an interdictor for over 5 hours in the ill-fated battle of Z9PP; which was my highlight of the war, even more so than 6VDT. I lit the cyno for Boat's hilarious first bomber fleet (the one which bombed itself). I was there for so many things in this epic video.
    The Summer of Rage. Eroticagate. I remember World War Bee, and the years that followed flying with Miniluv and the New Order, multiboxing 4 accounts ganking freighters and haulers, which were probably the most fun of my 15 years as a capsuleer other than Fountain.
    I don't regret winning, but Eve is something special.
    Incredible piece of work, and it was fascinating to see how WWB2 played out. I just wish there had been some coverage of the parody songs, so Sindel, Suas and Curzon Dax among others got the recognition they deserve. And also wish James 315, Princess Aiko and the isk doubling ban controversies had made an appearance :)

    • @mijiah
      @mijiah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is so fascinating. i love coming back to this video to read comments from eve vets and hear their stories. thank you for sharing!

    • @DarkRavenhaft
      @DarkRavenhaft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "X" for POS destruction, little bee...

    • @prot07ype87
      @prot07ype87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What is Eroticagate?

    • @thermalerosion4556
      @thermalerosion4556 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah ok just keep glazing your “”supreme leader of hisec”” 💀

  • @sambarker6141
    @sambarker6141 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1377

    This guy convinced me to watch a 6 hour video on a game that I've not only never played, but never even heard of. Well done

    • @MelaKenzu
      @MelaKenzu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Had me talking to my coworkers about the unbelievable scale of a game that none of us have played before.

    • @abttreefitty
      @abttreefitty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Spent 13 years on the game. It's over the top good.

    • @halashooligans
      @halashooligans 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Look up the Battle of B-R5RB
      You'll be VERY impressed and even tempted to play.
      some 15 years in the game myself.

    • @vanesslifeygo
      @vanesslifeygo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I only noticed the time now WHAAAT.

    • @strawmann9183
      @strawmann9183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@halashooligans That battle is what Section 18 covers in the video.

  • @ploploplop2349
    @ploploplop2349 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +392

    his last words on this 6 hour video being a long "im sorry this is incomplete" is exactly what I subscribed for, amazing video as always

  • @pewpewsalote8802
    @pewpewsalote8802 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have been moved by this video essay more than I have been by many of the worlds greatest films. The living history of EVE, a microcosm into the human condition is truly enthralling.

  • @aidanshea5942
    @aidanshea5942 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I can't wait for the 10 hour long Runscape video in 2027.
    But in all seriousness great video!

    • @fredohonius
      @fredohonius หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be a cool

  • @oxey_
    @oxey_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1740

    The fact people went as far as to track someone's address to cut their power is CRAZY lmao that's absolutely unreal

    • @Ornithopter470
      @Ornithopter470 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

      Eve Online is a buck wild game, with an even more buck wild playerbase.

    • @alexanderpadida8339
      @alexanderpadida8339 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      Haven't finished the video yet, but that doesn't sound "unreal", that is legitimately scary. Despite the presumably innocuous intention, having the ability to track a person's address and cutting their power just for a videogame is incredibly dangerous.

    • @oxey_
      @oxey_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

      @@alexanderpadida8339 I'm not sure if you understood correctly what unreal means? It means something like 'unbelievable' as in 'it's unbelievable to me some people went this far [because that's batshit insane behaviour]'

    • @lordblazer
      @lordblazer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@oxey_ it's completely reckless and dangerous..

    • @oxey_
      @oxey_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      @@lordblazer yes that is also what I'm saying

  • @thecasehd
    @thecasehd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1906

    Bravo! As someone who has played Eve for 20 years, this was, (I'm almost embarrassed to say), an emotional trip back down memory lane. The most touching was the story of Steve. My first null sec experience was ASCN. I joined in the main corp and later moved to the military corp of Celestial Fleet. I (we) spent tireless months mining, building and defending to achieve the milestone of building the first Titan. It was a real-life emotional moment when it was unveiled. I was not online when it went down, and the first log in after was chaos, and heart wrenching. The loss of morale and the war with BoB after was also despairing. Most of the members of the alliance were :carebears", and Bob pretty much rolled us in every battle. Great memories. I turned 60 this year, and am still playing, thankful to have lived in a time when a game like Eve was and is possible. Thank you for your incredible work on this, Documentary.

    • @mrfreakmaster2256
      @mrfreakmaster2256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      Was emotional ride for me to, and don't even play the game.

    • @lucianobertelli9019
      @lucianobertelli9019 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

      No need to be embarrassed, you participated in online history. Not many people can say that.

    • @PresidentArmer
      @PresidentArmer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      You've played even longer than me, I tip my hat to you sir!

    • @horizontide568
      @horizontide568 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I never played Eve. I did play Dust 514. It was the first fps game that I really got into and it had ties to Eve online. I remember doing clan fights for planets and if I remember correctly the Eve players would drop orbital strikes to hit the enemy team during a battle if your clan had Eve ship support. I dropped Dust when Destiny came out. Man I haven't thought about that game or this franchise in years and I didn't even realize that ppl still played Eve. That's crazy

    • @HoopleBogart
      @HoopleBogart 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My Dad is around your age too man. He still plays every now and then. Thanks for the story!

  • @theendofconfusion
    @theendofconfusion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I keep coming back to this. Such a good story.

  • @ubilicious1795
    @ubilicious1795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Alright I guess I’ll buckle down for a 6 hr video about a game I’ve never played.

  • @wizardom
    @wizardom 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1783

    "A player leaving Eve for World of Worldcraft increases the average IQ of both games." This is savage. 1:41:11

    • @Kektus1
      @Kektus1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      And untrue, but savage, yes.

    • @camclarke7220
      @camclarke7220 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

      I may be wrong but I believe it was first said by Robert Muldoon, PM of New Zealand from 1975 - 84, when referring to New Zealanders leaving for Australia - "New Zealanders who leave for Australia raise the IQ of both countries." Of course it was probably said earlier but it's a fairly well known quote in NZ.

    • @Tiago-
      @Tiago- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol

    • @user-os7ec4dm8x
      @user-os7ec4dm8x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@Kektus1 Nah it's true.

    • @anthonyschwartz1084
      @anthonyschwartz1084 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I was playing wow classic while listening and I felt so called out

  • @dolores111
    @dolores111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +687

    I love this. It's just as rich and complex as a real sci fi novel. I find it fascinating how the dev team essentially functions like the Imperium in Dune. Having the powers and responsibility of a god but being just as prone to bias and corruption, and get infiltrated by people who have greater loyalty to their factions and end up undermining the dev teams authority

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I would love to play an actual Dune game like that, although Im not a fan of paying real money for in game assets, I gotta eat and pay rent.

    • @egotrip995
      @egotrip995 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How long has it been???? U r the GOAT of youtube journalism

    • @highdefinition450
      @highdefinition450 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@egotrip995literally who lol

    • @anonanon6332
      @anonanon6332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So basically...just like real life with the NWO and WEF...gotcha.

    • @bansheelgend
      @bansheelgend 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      By the by, there are two EVE novels written as well. The Empyrean War and Templar One. Thay aren't based around the player exploits, but more about the four empires and the politics of it all.

  • @brainrain1142
    @brainrain1142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is one of the greatest video outhere on youtube.
    im must be at my 7-8 th watch. Each time , i log on my eve online character , i queue some research and start making my way among the stars. I never been part of a war. You wont remember my name in your system but i may be the ship you see mining his way .
    thanks for the video fredrik .

  • @scootsmcgee4608
    @scootsmcgee4608 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This was an incredibly thorough and well-scripted video! Fantastic work, and an amazing story about a game I'd often heard of, but never much looked into because I didn't think I'd have the time to dedicate to it. It's truly astounding what players will accomplish with a sandbox game.

  • @nuclearsimian3281
    @nuclearsimian3281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +783

    The best description I've ever heard of EVE: "Other games focus on having people going up against monsters, maybe in small groups, whereas EVE is focused on encouraging the people be the monsters, usually in large groups."

    • @lazymillennialjobseeker9282
      @lazymillennialjobseeker9282 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Is it too nerdy for me to say that hearing the description of EVE warfare (players don’t die, it’s just about draining resources and the will to fight) reminds me of Wendigoon’s description of the War in Heaven in Paradise Lost?
      And the can’t-live-with-them-can’t-live-without-them dynamic between players and war post-Casino wars does seem very WWI or like that Zero Punctuation joke about how old decedent societies like war for the sake of war.

    • @Yagizino
      @Yagizino 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@lazymillennialjobseeker9282 no it isnt. Its pretty normal. Almost every online game has some autistic backstory with people creating factions n shit.

    • @michaelmartin9022
      @michaelmartin9022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@lazymillennialjobseeker9282Real warfare is about draining resources and the will to fight. Also millions of people really die too!

    • @nononoohfuck
      @nononoohfuck 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@michaelmartin9022i think you missed the point

    • @lazymillennialjobseeker9282
      @lazymillennialjobseeker9282 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nononoohfuck the point, obviously, being to imply the EVE player base are demons.

  • @Caddicarus
    @Caddicarus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2028

    'The completion of Steve heralded war'

    • @SimeonJester
      @SimeonJester 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      WOA Caddicarus???? Hey I think this might be the only time i ever get to interact with you lol But I'm a huge fan and I absolutely love your videos - They got me through an extremely tough time back in 2020 when I was graduating online. Your kind of a core memory for me cause I distinctly remember finishing my final bit of work from the entire 12th grade at 4:00AM, then just binging your show for the rest of the night. Your one of my favorites on the platform, so thankyou so much!

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@SimeonJesterim sry this is so heartwarming omgggg like such a sweet comment, i wish u the best

    • @HIBACHICHAINSAW
      @HIBACHICHAINSAW 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      This is the best quote in the whole video. 1:23:28

    • @odwrksboxedtrash3730
      @odwrksboxedtrash3730 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Little did everyone know that this comment was foreshadowing of a new character in the Caddicaverse that would rival the likes of Long Dennis and Sam Widge in terms of power and charm. One that could possibly slay Spons even.
      Steve.

    • @williamromero-auila7129
      @williamromero-auila7129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's what I call an interesting war

  • @bigbird2200
    @bigbird2200 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    When I was in middle school I gave this game a try. I got into a mining corp that provided everything you needed to get started asteroid mining in low-sec, then move to null-sec and wormhole mining. I made my ISK, moved up in the Corp. I became fucking obsessed. I eventually ran an entire null-sec POS for the corp. I’d spend hours managing everything. It absorbed my entire life. This game is no joke. I was basically doing the job of a regional manager in an actual fuckin company at 14. Shits crazy. I ended up quitting because I got a girlfriend.

    • @idlegameplayer3756
      @idlegameplayer3756 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      bro your gf either saved or ruined your life, depending how you look at it

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Listen, corpo bros: It isnt that society wasnt ready for virtual parties, it's that virtual parties are not something society will *ever* want.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +459

    I now thoroughly understand why this video took over 2 years to make - you were cooking up an absolute behemoth behind the scenes and I deeply respect you all the more for it.

    • @johnr797
      @johnr797 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you get the video early, or did you say this an hour in?

  • @Drysart
    @Drysart 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +869

    One small correction, at 2:11:26, you mention EveMon as having been created by a group of players in 2006. *I* created EveMon in 2006, alone, and maintained it solo until, I believe, sometime in 2007 when I stopped playing EVE and left the project over to another developer to take it over and run with it and it became a group-run project some time after that.
    My understanding is that since then the project's gone through several cycles of the same thing: someone or a group maintains it until they're done with EVE, and then someone else takes up the mantle and runs the baton further on. Honestly I'm a little surprised it's still kicking, and still looking a lot like it was when I was done with it 17 years ago.
    Fun fact, EveMon was originally just an internal tool I'd made for Goonfleet (that's why the error dialog has a bee); but after a few months it turned out to be so useful that I decided to open it up to everyone.

    • @ropeburn6648
      @ropeburn6648 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      your glory days are over

    • @katebarrios6704
      @katebarrios6704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      King

    • @npc2794
      @npc2794 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      A small but concrete stake in history

    • @supme7558
      @supme7558 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Proof or your lieing who just pops in to take credit and expects us to trust a simple comment on youtube

    • @anonymoose2474
      @anonymoose2474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does he possibly gain? It's not like he's asking for money@@supme7558

  • @Lync512
    @Lync512 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think so far this Is my favorite Down The Rabbithole yet.
    Keep up the phenomenal work! This is worth a sub on pateron, I’ve been watching for years, I discovered this channel in college and have been hooked since.
    I’m looking forward to the next episode!

  • @DarkRavenhaft
    @DarkRavenhaft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Not even an hour in and I'm recognizing so many names and events it feels like a mid-life crisis. The development of the Golden Fleet and the pipe-bomb, devs that actually played the game alongside their players...

  • @zacharysieg2305
    @zacharysieg2305 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +499

    46 minutes in and I feel like even an eight-hour version would be barely scratching the surface. Utterly fascinating.

    • @Flow86767
      @Flow86767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💀

    • @UnluckyHistorian
      @UnluckyHistorian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      the man himself did say that it was unfinished. He could probably talk about the market and pricing wars and take up at least 2 more hours. Never mind the high-sec drama, which he specifically didn't mention at the end. He just covered the basics. Literally. Sure, most capsuleers wont have the details down like Fredrick did but the gist of it and more? Oh yeah, they probably know more.

  • @Pheagey
    @Pheagey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +247

    I was at B-R. 18 hour slugfest. One of the peak moments of my time playing EVE. Will never forget that day.

    • @mycroft16
      @mycroft16 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That was just before my time in EVE. I started 2 months before M2.

    • @Scampcam
      @Scampcam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      i was a support gate camper for B-R, aiming to kill pods because entering the system was basically impossible. Back when Fatal Ascension was often vying for the 2nd spot in CFC.
      I did finally get my butt in a dread for 6VDT though

    • @Pheagey
      @Pheagey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Scampcam hell yea. Those were the days

    • @Hello-ig1px
      @Hello-ig1px 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah right

    • @Braddowski
      @Braddowski 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I feel the same about 6-VDT 😍

  • @aaanycolour
    @aaanycolour 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    An hour and a half ago, I’d never in my life heard of this game, or of Fredrik. Now I’m in. I’m all in. Epic

  • @RemoveBolshevik
    @RemoveBolshevik หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    He's probably cooking up a 15 hour video on the history of the elder scrolls.

    • @esleyb7968
      @esleyb7968 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's already tons of those, rather get something less talked about. I'd still watch tho lol

  • @GardathWhiterock
    @GardathWhiterock 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +625

    This felt like a 6 hour long audiobook of sci-fi book series.

    • @michimatsch5862
      @michimatsch5862 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      So much stuff that sounds like it should be a movie or part of series.
      Like, that tether plan with motherships, the social club, the whole goons saga and their enemies...

    • @murgmaggleramaxis8535
      @murgmaggleramaxis8535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is and I love it

    • @yous2244
      @yous2244 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@michimatsch5862also how the Imperium sounds exactly like the US. Now all of the south and a most of the east is against the US and their alllies of the west Nato. It's extremely shocking how a game civilization is so similar to real life.

    • @Kyle_Riel
      @Kyle_Riel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it's boring af. Not worth the 2+ year hiatus

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Kyle_Rieltry again girl

  • @dunethewanderer8944
    @dunethewanderer8944 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +429

    This man went into the Icelandic Dream Experiment and pulled out more hours of footage than *the Director's Cut of Return Of The King.* Honor this man and his name.

    • @connor48880
      @connor48880 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      it’s the Return of the King alright

    • @dekal6
      @dekal6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Icelandic Dream Experiment sums it up pretty nicely

  • @cuteboyscap
    @cuteboyscap 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is written so well like every Section ends with a sentence that solls thw next one so well and got me all excited for it. I had so many "just one more" moments it's crazy :D

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You pose the question 'What is EVE Online?' But I conject the real question is rather 'Why is EVE Online?'

  • @helmutthat8331
    @helmutthat8331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +465

    One fun thing that didn't make it into the video was how after seeing war declared on them by the entirety of Nullsec in late 2020, with the explicit stated goal of removing Goonswarm from the game, Goonswarm activated "The Horn of Goondor", a long standing emergency plan. What is the Horn of Goondor? The Mittani emailed every single user who had ever been a Goon, no matter how long ago they played or how skilled they were - all hundred thousand plus of them - and asked them to return to the game.
    "You knew this day would come; you knew that you would be called. Only as a last resort; only when it matters most, when the fate of our tribe and the galaxy itself hangs in the balance. The Horn of Goondor, only to be sounded in our darkest hour, when the enemy is at the gates of Fortress Delve and it is time to win or die."

    • @virahpayam
      @virahpayam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      😲📯

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Remember: These guys bully people to death. They're Scientology Cartman.

    • @amzarnacht6710
      @amzarnacht6710 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      I would've joined on the Other side.
      Spent most of my time in nullsec fighting Goons, and even in other entire games where they showed up, even if they were on my team (keeping the same username was always a dead giveaway).
      Tho I remember unshipping Mittani once, when Goons was still the new, fresh, pimple faced bully on the kindergarden playground. Almost podded him, too, but our 'ceptor got popped and he broke lock.

    • @richardwickens2923
      @richardwickens2923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is epic 🙂

    • @alixhascour1715
      @alixhascour1715 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if only he became painter instead ^^@@amzarnacht6710​

  • @Kuponuss
    @Kuponuss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +574

    I honestly thought this channel was dead, but then you return with a 6 hours video after two years. Thank you so much for dedicated so much time and effort to provide us with such high quality content!

    • @chrisullery6450
      @chrisullery6450 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Between him and Casually Explained, this year has been an emotional rollercoaster for me. I don't have a lot going on.

    • @JayboCorp.2014
      @JayboCorp.2014 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Checking Community Posts can be extremely helpful.

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not as impressive as almoghtylolis 21 hour berserk video. And he didn't stop making content for that

    • @AryadevChavali
      @AryadevChavali 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@666slateran666 wasn't that a supercut of all their content so far? this isn't equivalent at all.

    • @TheLogan771
      @TheLogan771 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      was never worried, just knew whatever video was coming has gotta be huge LOL

  • @taoofjester4113
    @taoofjester4113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the fact that Iceland turned off the internet at night. Like parents telling their kids to go to bed and turn off that damn computer.

  • @tremendousbaguette9680
    @tremendousbaguette9680 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Fantastic work, really. Thank you for helping us modest Eve casuals to better understand the waters we dip in.

  • @jamesc10759
    @jamesc10759 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    Favorite line:
    "Crowd Control Productions had little ability to control the movements and actions of the people operating in null sec..."

  • @ILordPerunI
    @ILordPerunI 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +591

    The Eve online madness can only compete with Fredrik Knudsen's madness of making an almost 6-hour video on this incredible video game. Thank you, Fredrik! I will eagerly await the next masterpiece video in two years.

  • @leerio3078
    @leerio3078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely amazing!! You and your team did an outstanding job. I am saddened that Pochven was not mention but this documentary is truly worthy of the highest praise possible. You have added a gem to Eve Online that cannot be rivaled. Thank you.

  • @ChrisStavros
    @ChrisStavros 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How a game company made a freak success and then proceeded to fuck up for 20 years.

  • @setlerking
    @setlerking 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +218

    The history of eve is both deeply funny and extremely compelling. It’s ability to reflect the real world but also the significant ways that mingles with with the limitations of video games as a medium is fascinating.

    • @dankduck
      @dankduck 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Guess I'm not sleeping tonight

    • @arc-sd8sk
      @arc-sd8sk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      funny and compelling, yes, but also deeply frightening haha

  • @KatiaSae
    @KatiaSae 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +819

    Had the pleasure of meeting Fredrik last year at EVE FanFest 2022 and saw the first couple of hours of this documentary. Truly nice guy and genuinely interested in and cared for the research he was doing about CCP and the history of EVE Online. I'm thankful, humbled, and honored to have my small piece of history included in such an epic documentary. Thanks so much for the opportunity to tell my story and that of Signal Cartel, the best corp of all New Eden

    • @WatchVidsMakeLists
      @WatchVidsMakeLists 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Wait wait wait, are you the player that went to every star system without losing any ships? The scale of New Eden is immense, and you have my respect. o7

    • @TheSonOfDumb
      @TheSonOfDumb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow

    • @KatiaSae
      @KatiaSae 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@WatchVidsMakeListsYulp, that's me and thanks! o7

    • @origami_dream
      @origami_dream 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      As someone who's done their fair share of efforts to help out new players in games and is an inveterate roleplayer and space fan, but who only ever quickly bounced off EVE in about a month due to its many hostilities, gotta say, the story of Katia and Signal Cartel was actually genuinely touching and sweet, and the part i'll remember as a standout long after i forget what the SomethingAwful trolls did this time.
      The ability to reject all the nudges toward self-interest in what's designed, in so many ways, to be a dystopian sandbox (not that that doesn't sound fun in its way too) for a goal as not-defined-by-hypercapitalist-greed as the joy of exploration, and to altruistically helping people out, is just really genuinely cool. Sure it's just a game, but it's a game where doing that represents an opportunity cost of actual money. It's one thing to show newbies around and give them some spare items in a typical PvE MMO, but another when contrasted with all the fun (and often likely not-so-fun) cut-throatedness in the rest of this story.

    • @kieranmandy9987
      @kieranmandy9987 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@KatiaSaeit's a pleasure to meet a living part of history.
      Back in my eve days, before real life intervened, I remember hearing the tellings of your journey as it progressed. Glad to hear you made it to the end.
      Thank you for putting the effort in so others can enjoy hearing the tale.

  • @hash527
    @hash527 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude I watch/listen to a lot of TH-cam, 8-10 hours a day while I’m working. This might be the best video I’ve ever seen. Fantastic job man! This video is seriously impressive. Who would have thought that the random inner working of a video game would be so captivating.

  • @talonofnothing8688
    @talonofnothing8688 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can’t put to words how amazing this all is to me. Thanks for putting this together!

  • @vaildog1
    @vaildog1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +451

    This is easily my most anticipated TH-cam video of all time. 6 hours by the most devoted rabbit hole diver about the deepest video game rabbit hole there is.
    I wish more creators had the balls to take this amount of time to make a masterpiece like this!

    • @pineboomerang
      @pineboomerang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Easily agreed.

    • @stevenshoemaker8326
      @stevenshoemaker8326 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      TH-cam shoots down creators like this and makes it unsustainable luckily we can support him on Patreon

    • @rainbowsorceress2082
      @rainbowsorceress2082 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@stevenshoemaker8326also not everyone has the time to dedicate to the creation of 6 hour long videos

    • @rydz656
      @rydz656 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gonna kill his algorithm, he should've hired some editors to help.

    • @eliasaho3
      @eliasaho3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ones words of affirmations cant have weight if they couldnt have watched the video because of the limitation of the earths time

  • @Xsifilad
    @Xsifilad 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its a real challenge for me to watch a 5+ hour TH-cam video, i cannot even imagine what a challenge it was to make it.

  • @Livvvid
    @Livvvid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Second watch now.
    I have never even played eve but its super nostalgic for me because back in the 2000s we had senior nerd friends who would tell us freshman nerds about them playing eve. Back then it was in the middle of the BoB war and I'm happy to report that they broke down the war super accurately at the time as everything in this video matches up with what they were telling us at the time. I was worried when I watched this for the first time that those guys were just conjuring up excitement.
    I was just so fascinated by everything being player driven. The economy, Wars, politics. All player driven.

    • @SplittTwig
      @SplittTwig 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Learn a skill, dont watch this scam of a video twice fam dang

  • @mlt0403
    @mlt0403 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +344

    It's been a week. Getting through this video is like getting through a good novel. I need constant breaks to get through, you're a godsend Fredrik.

  • @mostverticalproductions4808
    @mostverticalproductions4808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +443

    Fred coming out of nowhere to drop this behemoth of a documentary is the best early Christmas gift ever.

    • @coffin7904
      @coffin7904 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      He's been working on it publically for two years it's not really outta nowhere

    • @tcswed
      @tcswed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@coffin7904i know right.. Not only has he been posting about it on his Twitter.. But it's also in his community tab lol

    • @noblegalifreyan4551
      @noblegalifreyan4551 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He also spent probably more time doing his v tuner persona

    • @bobbyshaddoe3004
      @bobbyshaddoe3004 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell yeah! I was just wondering about when it would be released, and suddenly it appears

    • @Skynet307
      @Skynet307 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@noblegalifreyan4551what's the channel name?

  • @BuckeyeNut123
    @BuckeyeNut123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    players leaving Eve for WoW increased the IQ of both forced me to pause the video and take the time to fully appreciate the sentiment.
    Well done.

  • @rafaelortega9252
    @rafaelortega9252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s could very well be a mini series

  • @thestephennewton
    @thestephennewton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1911

    I’ve been slowly watching this video for 2 weeks. Finally finished it. Congratulations on such a beautifully told piece of history

    • @DisgustedCheese
      @DisgustedCheese 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      congrats on finishing it lmao

    • @joekitoeki
      @joekitoeki 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Lol. 2 years of proscrastinating for ”It would become the largest battle in EVE history” times 16.

    • @DarKcS2
      @DarKcS2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same here. It's like an audiobook with flashy pictures :D

    • @steppahouse
      @steppahouse 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ditto. Took me about the same amount of time.

    • @Dalonghair
      @Dalonghair 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I just watched it in one sitting. 😰

  • @AtrocityGuide
    @AtrocityGuide 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    You have no idea how excited I am to watch this! I know how hard the DtRH team has worked on this project. Congratulations to you all!

    • @Muddytony20
      @Muddytony20 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Ooh look it's that other suspiciously high quality video essay person. Hello :)

    • @zinxderobo
      @zinxderobo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love you AtrocityGuide !!

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I adore your videos, you're a top top documentary maker just like Fredrik is. You both deserve all the success and happiness in the world. You're the kind of people who my friends and family thank me for introducing them to your videos, seriously, that actually happened. It helps my family understand why I stopped watching actual TV and "cut the cord" so to speak, because documentaries like yours and Fredrik's are better than anything on TV. So yeah. I feel like you deserve the big bucks from a documentary production company too one day, just like Fredrik deserves it. Because you make such high quality documentaries as it is, with essentially no budget, and not easy capability to interview famous people, although in your video about be-afro'd zen master Rama, you did of course manage to interview one of his closest followers, which was a real coup I feel. You got a primary source, that way.
      But yeah, the access to big celebrities that working with a big production company would bring, plus of course tons of money, is something you two absolutely deserve. Like, not that you make sports documentaries or anything, but it reminds me of how Jon Bois makes incredible sports documentaries, but he can never interview the subjects of his docs, like for instance Michael Jordan. Netflix in their documentary series on the 90s Chicago Bull's, had interviews with everyone involved in the franchise back then, while Bois's video on the team Michael Jordan owns, the Charlotte Hornets (or the Bobcats as they were known back then) had no interviews with Michael or anyone else. He still makes better sports documentaries than anyone, Netflix included, but that kind of access is something only working with a big production company can bring. But yeah, your videos don't need that to he great, cos they already are great. So mainly I'm just thinking you deserve a large high paying contract lol. We all need success like that these days, in order to pay rent.
      Sorry for waffling. Just keep doing what you're doing, cos it's awesome.

    • @lixyororke
      @lixyororke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That end credits song was surprisingly haunting for a video about gamers playing war in digital space

  • @iamjustkiwi
    @iamjustkiwi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was an amazing few days feeling like an observer to an entire other universe of wonder and amazing coordination between fellow explorers of the stars. Thank you so much for all the effort put into this Fredrik, keep up all the work you do.

  • @rogeraus63
    @rogeraus63 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I don't even play eve and this was such a great piece. Utterly fascinating.

  • @maby2926
    @maby2926 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +399

    So happy that Katia Sae is also mentioned in this video. The history of EVE is often described only by the big wars, but it's often stuff like this that gives a game its special character

    • @mycroft16
      @mycroft16 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      Kind of sad he didn't mention that CCP actually invited her into Polaris, the dev only system so she could officially claim she had visited every single system.

    • @avae5343
      @avae5343 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mycroft16so what dude, it’s just a database entry interfacing with a rendering engine.

    • @Beispielname1233
      @Beispielname1233 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which section?

    • @SaltpeterTaffy
      @SaltpeterTaffy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      @@avae5343 People imbue things with meaning. It's just something you have to accept.

    • @avae5343
      @avae5343 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SaltpeterTaffy Meaning can only be found in real life, like a family or money or a career. Finding meaning in a database entry is symptomatic of having wrong priorities. Especially on the internet - this triumph, how do you know it wasn’t me that visited these instances?