Choosing a scope for Precision Rifle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- There are so many options for scope on the market, so which one is right for you? Rusty breaks down 5 of the key things to look at, and then a whole range of other features you might want to consider.
It's extremely overwhelming. As someone just getting into long range it's insane trying to decide what to buy and what reticle to get.
I’m just here for the bloopers
For PRS scopes that I think are important and why:
1: durability. You’re going to bang up your scope. If it can’t take a bump here and there and lose zero, it’s worthless. My Vortex Razor Gen 1 tracks really well, but isn’t durable.
2: tracking. Pretty straight forward here. We dial on our scopes and they need to be precise.
3: glass quality and reticle design. I prefer a simple Christmas tree reticle.
The scope I’m running is the IOR Crusader
I to say that your selection of scope is impressive. I just got another scope from a company that is new to the high quality PRS scope game. If you get a chance look at the Vector Optics Continental scopes. My latest is a 5-30x56 34mm tube. It's nice to read the grass and trees as your following the bullet trace. I'm a fan.
They are not new to this at all, sounds like they are better now though. my last vector would never hold a zero!!! and the scope rings where the worst I ever delt with!!
Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 are better than the Vector Optics Continental 34mm. Better glass better turrets and more total elevation travel with a zero stop that won't limit total elevation travel.
Requirements you missed:
No. 5: Excellent glass;
No. 6: Not made in China or the Philippines
I have a Vortex Viper PST and at 300 yds I can barely make out my 5-223 shot groups
What scope will allow me to see my shots ?
It would be nice if one of you TH-camrs would go to the range and set the same target with a 5 shot group @ 200, 500, 700 & 900 yds and show us what the view looks like.
what scope(s) can handle the recoil of a 50 bmg?
Unfortunately, the optic is an area where you can’t cheat the system. If you buy from one of the reputable brands, commonly used in whichever shooting genre you choose to play/compete in, you will meet the durability and reliability aspects. From here glass and reticle make up the rest of the difference. If you have a tighter budget, buy a reticle that makes sense to your head as priority and get the best optical quality you can as 2nd priority. There are many shooters in the top 10 running a certain brand of scope with arguably the most functional reticle, but glass in the rear of the price tier. This shows that glass quality is a lower value on performance return than reticle. That also being said, a lot of the top guys have been moving away from their scope sponsors and shooting Tangent Thetas, because glass quality could help pick up those last few points needed to be on the steps at the end of the weekend.
TLDR Version (Starting with 1st Focal & 34mm tube as basic needs):
- Reliability (Tracking) / Durability (Hold Zero & Zero Stop): Most Common Brands will be safe.
- Reticle: It needs to work with your style (Not everyone likes tree style reticles, even)
- Glass: buy the best you can afford after meeting the two priorities above. Parallax applies here
- Features: Illumination, Capped/Locking Windage, Zero & Zero Stop Adjustment
For me it’s quality, toughness, reliability , clarity of the lens , repeatability of the dial adjustments. if I were looking for a good PRS/Tactical scope that will get knocked and banged about and dropped and thrown around by big burly baggage handlers at airports I’d buy the Nightforce ATACR.
What do you think of the steiner m7xi and the nightforce?
All great scopes I ended up with a Crimson Trace Series 5 for both my DMR and PRS it clicked on all the boxes
accurate tracking that keeps/holds it's Zero is 1st every thing else is a feature,
Seriously thinking about a Burris XTRiii. Durability is my number 1, I would gladly sacrifice glass quality for it. Being in Australia I also think it's important to look at the customer service of the scope companies in case of issues. Country of manufacture also plays a part.
Big fan of the Burris XTR III & Pro lines
Thanks for the consideration!
@@BurrisOpticsCompany No worries. I would be happy to test out a scope for you anytime 😋
@@ImpactDynamics Can you give me your top picks for 1-10X , 3-18X & 5-25X
Between $500 - $1000 ?
@@steffeness1 No 1-10 is worth buying in that range, unfortunately. Primary arms SLX 1-8 would be my pick in a solid LPVO, consider SFP here as well since you will primarily only need 1x for quick reaction or max magnification for precision work, where the reticle actually works. Everything in between is kinda pointless on an LPVO.
Take a hard look at Athlon optics for the other categories. The Ares 2.5-15 is a very underappreciated scope. If you dont need illumination, the Midas Tac 6-24 or 5-25 are extremely hard to beat for that price range. Great Reticles and really good glass for what you pay.
I’m running the Arken sh4 gen 2 and I hope to someday be able to afford a night force or us optics!
The Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 is a huge upgrade compared to the Arken. Don't have to spend that much $$$. I also own Nightforce, Kahles and March and though they're very good quality scopes, the Athlon Ares BTR and Midas Tac really surprised me how good these Chinese made scopes are and they are in fact noticeably better than the other brands of Chinese made scopes for sure.
I may have missed it in the video, but tracking is critical. People go to the store and pick the scope with the best glass, but you might as well throw it in the trash it it doesn’t track reliably. You should be able to adjust it up and down left and right over and over and never shift zero. Some of the cheaper scopes will have 3-6% change built into the acceptable tolerance. When you go up in price those tolerances go to 1-2% and then less than 1% on the highest quality scopes. Having great glass may get a scope out the door, but it’ll get returned very soon if it doesn’t have good internals.
Yep if she don't track or fly straight it's a useless brick
I may be mistaken, but I think that the Nightforce SHV has zero set not zero stop. It’s acts similar to a true zero stop but is inferior in my opinion and shouldn’t be a feature on a Nightforce.
Scopes a quarter the price include a solid zero stop so any offering from NF should have it as well imo
Good bit of information, I get so lost in all this, ok I got no idea but I enjoy it 🤣
The most important thing is to have a boat load of money. 🤑
Resolution and light weight.
Running: Athlon Cronus
Wish List: ZCo 8-40 or Zeiss S3 6-36
I think tracking and reliability is #1, then glass
Grab a scope and good luck. Plain and simple
Not sure if you answer comments, but I would love your thoughts. I was thinking of going with the best Arken scope for my PRS gun, but on Reddit, people said not to buy them because they aren't that good. I feel like their best scope is just as good, from what I have heard, as many other scopes that are nearly double the price. For example, the Arken is just shy of $500, while a Vortex Strike Eagle is around $1000. As someone who has these in your hands, what are your thoughts? Do you think there is a better middle ground?
The Arken EP5 would be very comparable to the Vortex Strike Eagle. We have had excellent results with the Arkens.
@@ImpactDynamics This is tremendously helpful thank you!
For me, parallax adjustment and reticle.
For me 1) tremor3, 2) 34mm, 3) lowest-$$$, 4) a couple of months of Chef Boyardee on sale at the market.
I'm currently running at s&b pm 2 but looking for an upgrade to an Christmas tree reticle in the new year , and probably go with an s&b 6-36x56 pm2 , just used to there scopes and to keep the same turret rotation.
Some of us still celebrate Christmas 🤪🤑🎯
I love a h59 horus Christmas tree 🎄
For me, the reticle is a top priority when selecting a scope. Some reticles just work better for me, and for my shooting style.
Use an fixed zoom one. I use 35x56 fixed zoom 😅 No need for FFP , Every time right on adjustment. Learn to use Parallax wheel.
Fixed zoom has its place, but it not specifically useful for a PRS match.
Glass and accuracy are the most important, but no fat reticles
So make it easy for us. What one is the cheapest that ticks all the boxes? 🤣
That would be the Falcon Endura
Arken sh4
Vortex venom
Vortex strike eagle and Arken ep5. A little less Vortex Venom and Arken ep4 all 4 are great budget optics.
Why would need to change your elevation or windage. I thought you used those knows to zero and then didn't touch them again unless to zero again.
You use them extensively to adjust for distance and sometimes wind also.
heard anything about element theos scope?
Yeap, they are a good option.
WhatsApp is the supreme, manufacturer, caliber and model of rifle for competition of PRS?
Congratulations for your videos and a big hug from Brazil…
Image quality on high magnification and spot on reliable tracking and no questions asked lifetime warranty including their electronics IE Illuminated reticles are most important.
I used to run Vortex razor HD’s until I looked through a Leupold. Now, clarity trumps features for me.
Im fairly new in this sport but i'd like to know the turret adjustment is spot on. I can take a hit on glass quality as i only shoot out to 212m regularly or 350m max.
I fully cheaped out on my first scope $200 off ebay for a FFP 6-24x50 no regrets. Ill outgrow it soon enough no doubt and slop in the turrets is the first thing i found to be a problem.
Leica 2.5x15x56i best glass I've looked through, would like to see the Zeiss prs 3
I run razors now. I love the durability, weight and turrets on them. And the Gen 3 zero stop is next level. Unless ZCO does a zero stop with that kind of ease ability I’ll stick with my gen 3’s from now on. I think what they did on the zero stop is phenomenal.
you run a razor what?
Awesome videos! Thanks for taking the time Mate
Why is there no S&B PM2 in that collection?
athlon argos 8-34x56 hope i made the right purchase. very new to shooting. but want to compete what are your thoughts on this scope?
I have not used that make before, I shoot a lot of long-range, typically use US Optics or Nightforce, turret durability ( they are used a lot when shooting LR), glass and reticle are a big deal at 2000m.
clarity is more important
What’s your thought of the sightmark
Only ever seen a nightvision scope from Sightmark
@@ImpactDynamics
What’s your thoughts on the Miopta6 3-18x50 zplex sfp
Thanks for the review, well done for a subject that is very subjective;)
I found with my 3 scope buys for bencrest that it was.....
Budget first because finances are finite.
Reticle 2nd because that is what you will always see and it should attract you not confuse you.
Then try to find best glass with that reticle, again that is what you will always be seeing thru.
Lastly, shop around and wait for a sale, I have saved literally thousands this way.
Because I benchrest shoot I don't need all the bells and whistles, none of my glass is illuminated so you can save there as well.
What would you guys recommend for someone with shooting experience that wants to get into prs shooting rifle and scope
TH-cam lol
I’ve always heard you spend more money on optic than the gun. However, if you have a cheap .308 ($7-800), there’s no reason to buy a $4000 scope. It depends on how much money you want to throw away. I guarantee you you won’t be upset with a $4000 scope but if you have need of that extra $2000-$2500, put it elsewhere.
Why do I want mil? I speak American and moa makes sense to me.
MOA seems handy for estimating range but the numbers get to big to quick for fast adjustments.
MRAD is not "more accurate" just much more efficient. The majority of US precision shooters have switched to MIL if there wasn't an improvement no one would have switched.
MRAD doesn't care the units (inch or cm) it is just a base ten system.
1 MIL is 1 inch at 1000 inches (1 mil = 1/1000 of the distance)
@@lukemc5800true
Love my tangent theta but would like a nightforce
Tangent smokes out nightforce
@Ron-ni8uu but nightforce is amazing for the price and it's durability is arguably un matched.. I love my tangent but still want an Atacr
Tangents have the gold standard on turrets unmatched. And the glass and top secret coatings that delete some mirage. They have found a super formula it is proprietary secret. One of the only scopes in the world that can deal with mirage.
Most people don't know about that little mirage thingy🤑
That's why nothing brushes tangent to the side