My Brain is Broken (RE: What made the Ancient Egyptians Fat and Sick?)
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- My response to "What made the Ancient Egyptians Fat and Sick?" by the youtube channel What I've Learned. I will never recover.
0:00 - Intro
1:06 - Ancient Egyptians ate high carb, low fat
5:47 - Curing ulcerative colitis with meat?
12:05 - Saturated fat is fine (of course)
18:37 - Carbs are bad (of course)
26:29 - Fiber, anti-nutrients, gluten OH MY!
38:48 - Conclusion
What I've Learned
• What made the Ancient ...
Ancient Egyptian diet
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Food pyramid
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Ulcerative colitis
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Saturated fat & CVD
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Carbs & diabetes
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Ketosis
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Fiber
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Anti-nutrients (generally)
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Gluten
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Oxalate
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Balanced diet
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Vitamin A
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i think the pharaohes had heart disese bc of you know, inbreeding????
Yes. If half of pharaohs have heart problems and pharaohs were related the first thing I would think about would be genetics. Just to think that he implies that half of Egyptian population had heart problems.
Lol right? I agree!
And even if the inbreeding wasn’t the actual cause, the fact that the Pharos are all related makes it likely that they’d all have common hereditary health issues.
My sister and I both have high blood pressure... because both of our parents and all four of our grandparents had high blood pressure. It just runs in the family lol. I imagine things might be worst if we were all inbred, though.
until this video i thought that inbreeding among Egyptian royal family lead to poor health was common knowledge
That probably was a factor.
As a fat MODERN vegan Egyptian who eats mainly bread, his video is highly offensive to me 😤😤😤😂😂😂
You just need more fat and you will be fine. That doctor told me so.
I feel you😂😂😂
Poor us vegan Egyptians
Honestly, bread is the only thing that I truly enjoy eating.
But are you a Pharoah or a labourer?
This really made me laugh! 😊
King Tut was buried with 48 carved wooden cases of mummified beef and poultry. They didn't want him to go hungry in the afterlife... but yeah he only ate bread lol.
yeah the question i first had was what do they see as ancient egyptians lol, such a broad nothing saying term
Ehh... The Ancient Aegyptian, or Kemetic beliefs about the afterlife, and their burial rituals were a little more complex than "didn't want him to be hungry in the Afterlife." I'm not an expert in Kemetic religion, but friends who are tell me it's not wrong to summarise the practice of entombing those of a certain socal class with a moderate hoarde of foodstuffs as "kind of like a potluck, where, as the Pharaohs took care of their people in life, they are expected to do the same in the Afterlife," cos in the few mummified "commoners" we've found, even in the _very_ few left relatively undisturbed, we see a lot less in terms of Grave Goods they carry the essence of into the Afterlife.
Who suggested that the Egyptians ate only bread? No one did, that's who. Are you arguing against the Egyptian's own records of eating bread and rations of bread given out??? Are you suggesting that the Egyptian desert was home to thundering herds of cattle and oxen, making it a common meal for the upper classes? Could the beef and poultry rations not have been specially given to King Tut for the purposes of placating the gods in the afterlife instead of being indicative of daily diet? Alexander the Great defeated the Egyptians and placed his own general, Ptolemy, on the throne....thus the Ptolemaic dynasty (Cleopatra was Greek!). Are you suggesting their observations about the Egyptians being bread eaters is wrong? Really???
it was mentioned in the original video that they had a ovo-lacto-vegetarian diet. You need chickens for eggs and cows for milk. If there was pork or mutton maybe I would agree with you as, pigs are exclusively used for meat and sheep kinda mostly for meat because how much wool may someone from ancient Egypt times need.
As a statistician seeing the graph when he connects the dots it's just so hilarious 😂😂
It reminded me of a paint by numbers painting for 3 yr old LOL
It’s like a dot to dot
Yes I was thinking the same thing haha
You guys missed the point of the squiggles: to cherry pick data. He made those to show what Keys did, to draw a line where he saw fit. Those random squiggles were just an example, he s not even using them to backup any research hypothesis.
Simon Rioux it kind of disgusted me 😂😂😂 8th grade physics taught me how to draw that graph better than that guy 😂😅
Pharaohs were susceptible to a lot of health problems due to inbreeding. It wasn't just because of their diet. Tut alone had a lot going on he died at a very young age.
Although Tutankhamen probably didn't die of inbreeding related disease, his children actually might have (he married his sister and none of their children made it to adulthood)
omg I'm laughing out loud at that graph thing 😂😂
Lol right? I snorted 😂😭
I watched the original video first and somehow it didn't register, but when I saw it again in this video (before she explained it) my brain was like "wait wtf is he doing, there is a clear 'line' going up" so I understand so much better now how people fall for those manipulations if they see something for a second and the video immediately moves on!
When I saw that I was like okay this guy has got to be paid by someone to push this stuff lmao
It's so ridiculous 😂😂
Haha the squiggly one!
That was so funny 😂
Having gone keto/carnivore 7 years ago, I now feel like I'm 20, look 10 years younger, am healthier than I've ever been and have forgotten what it's like to be fat, sick, depressed or anxious. I haven't even had a cold/flu since. That said, every so often I'll watch a vegan TH-camr to reminisce on how far up my own a** my head used to be.
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Thank you Jeff! 👍
Keto/Carnivore saved my life.
I have the same experience as you.
Congrats 💪🙏 I'm glad you found the diet that works for you. I am amazed carnivore works at all tbh. But I'm somewhat paleo high fat and it really feels great. I maintain some selective carbs to build muscle however.
@@anewagora Perhaps you aren't familiar with what true Keto is?
Keto is high fat, Moderate protein, Very low carb.
In order to get energy for the body it needs an alternative to glucose.
That energy comes from burning fat which produces Ketones.
Ketones replace Glucose.
In order to get Ketones you eliminate as many carbs as possible - usually below 20grams of carbs per day.
In addition to dietary changes, one also needs to engage in what is called "Intermittent Fasting". This practice of fasting super charges the state of Ketosis.
You don't need carbohydrates to build muscle. You need a balance of protein, good nutrition in whole food, high quality fats, exercise, and fasting.
High performance athletes on a Ketogenic regimen do not need carbohydrates to build muscle.
@@skippylippy547 I know what keto is. I've tried it and did pretty well but I have a hard time gaining weight and building muscle and keto was too extreme. Living on coconut oil and avocados while not being able to drink more than one coconut water a day for the very low carb limit was hardcore. It's certainly feasible to adapt and it doesn't feel as extreme anymore, but I find it's not ideal for me. I think most people will do pretty well with a low carb high fat paleo diet that's much more accessible. But I also think there is no one diet for all people and different diets work for different people.
I feel like Swayze's carved a niche out for herself playing wack a mole with all the dumb, extreme diets on YT. People keep posting them and she keeps smacking them down with logic.
That squiggly line graph literally triggered me. A single graph cannot have multiple Y values with the same X value! That is not how graphs work in coordinate system...
A graph can have whatever y values with whatever x values. What you're talking about are functions (functions take x values and assign them unique y values based on a rule). I don't agree with the guy, just talking about terminology.
@@annapejskova1976 You are correct. Graph is a generalized term for presenting data which does not necessitate it presenting a function. Here the graph is practically a function as it is an approximation how those those variables correlate. If you used computer software, you would then be able to extract function for that graph. That is how that types of graphs are generally used. This is just to provide extra context for my earlier comment.
you're correct and yet you missed the point entirely of why he did that. Yes, it was totally nonsensical. Even his fans (like myself) know that. That's the point. The trend line that Unnatural Vegan unironically made me so mad because she seriously believes that trend line proves something other than that the data is inconclusive at best and downright garbage at worst. That trend line's margin of error makes it unusable and yet THIS STUDY WAS CONSIDERED GOOD.
Seriously, look at that graph again and tell me why people actually concluded that higher fat % of calorie intake had any relationship to heart disease fatalities. Several countries with near equal fat % intake to the USA had several times FEWER deaths of heart disease. The only thing that graph proved was that life-style choices make up the biggest difference in heart disease. That's it. None of the data had reasonable margins of error to even make the case that higher fat intake made any difference in heart disease and yet that was exactly what Time magazine reported and what thousands of doctors and dietitians said was true for decades before they only JUST started reversing that perspective for the past 20yrs.
While not a perfect study, as no studies are perfect, Ancel Keys, along with Dr. Ivan Frantz, also ran the Minnesota Coronary Experiment. The randomized controlled study was completed but not initially published. It was actually published 40 years after completion. The experiment was performed in a nursing home and six state mental hospitals. The 9,423 study participants, ages 20 to 97 were put on a diet that replaced saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat. Because they were in institutions, their diets were controlled. The result was that the intervention group had a significant reduction in serum cholesterol (as will happen with the inclusion of polyunsaturated fat), but there was a 22% higher risk of death for each 30mg/dl reduction in serum cholesterol.
Excellent comment, yes saturated fat is necessary for human metabolic health.
I saw that video when it came out yesterday morning and at the time most of the comments were criticizing his biased viewpoint and lack of understanding of what he was talking about. Some people said he had been deleting comments though, so I imagine that the comments are pretty lopsided now...
That doctor explaining constipation... holy shit. I had to laugh.
Pun intended?
yahee122 pun intended.
Regardless of whether or not ancient Egyptians had heart disease or not, it is also not really possible to compare a grain based diet from back then to one someone would be on now! Especially with wheat, the strains we grow and use commonly now for our breads, etc are way less fibrous and have more basic structural components! This has been done purposefully through selective breading over time in order to make breads that are more palatable, but that also means they have become easier for the intestinal tract to absorb. With a less complex composition of less minerals and fibers, your body is able to extract more of the pure carbs from it. Bread today is not equal to the bread that was being made in history, and you can’t behave as if it is. Bread used to be a way healthier meal staple that was hearty and kept you full and didn’t get almost completely absorbed by your gut. And yeah, you shouldn’t be eating tons of modern bread with every meal, but carbs are still important! They are considered an essential macronutrient for a reason!!! Your body needs them!!!
great point. I was thinking this.
True. But we can always just switch to whole-grain bread or non-wheat one, not, like, REMOVE THE BREAD from the diet COMPLETELY. Those guys are crazy lol
Hmm overall the gluten levels have gone insane and a high percentage of us get sibo at least or celiac at worst..Modern grains have much more starch to nutrient ratio compared to ancient or heirloom strains
My opinion is that it's gotten worse the more we engineer it let alone modify.
Gerald Friend breeding something to be more digestible and nutritionally significant doesn’t make it worse. Not changing our diets to reflect that makes it worse. Pretty much every selectively bred food has been to human’s benefit.
@@JacquelineUnderwood Fair.Advances in agriculture generally good..the super high levels of gluten is not one of them.
lol so he took egyptian mummies, who were vastly the upper ruling class. And from that assumed that those are representing the whole population? That's like seeing Henry VIII and from that assumed that every early modern british person was too fat to sit a horse. And that every european over the past couple centuries must have had horrific genetic diseases because that's what pops up in a lot of royal families?
Also, yes, grains where super super important to the ancient egyptians. Because it was literally what kept them alive. It constituted most of their economy because thanks to the nile they had an incredibly stable agriculture and could export their surplus effectively. They were super into beer, for which you need grains. Beer was drunk for almost every meal and also used in religious ceremonies. And lo an behold, it also fed their cattle. So... huge surprise that they depict grain production in their culture? Sure.
Does this guy understand that meat does not just come into being, but that animals we eat take their nutrients from all the bad and mean plants?
gosh you are stupid
@@bobmolleman8849 Some people don't understand not all living things digest plants and convert plant nutrients into active forms equally, not even all humans do, a lot genetically can't convert beta carotene to retinol at all, and most who can't probably don't know it. You either have to get it from animals or supplement synthetic retinol, the latter is obviously not ideal and far more likely to be toxic and cause problems than just getting it naturally from food.
@@brians1793 @bob molleman apparently neither of you understand irony or give a shit about the scientific evidence from unnatural vegan's Video. But yes, it is me who is stupid :)
@michelle case only that humans are not meat eaters but omnivores and you don't need a cows stomach (or say a panda's for example) to eat plants because humans dont just eat grass and leaves with little nutritional value, but fruits and seeds. But I guess humor, irony and science are strange to hardcore meat lovers :)
@michelle case there are more animals in the world than bovines and humans, ans many of them eat a variety of plants? What's your point? Have you never eaten pork or chicken that you are actively trying to misunderstand my comment?
Thank you for making this video. I bought into what that channel is pushing and really appreciate your insight. Many people see their way as the solution, but life keeps turning out to be more complicated and nuanced.
Nuance has no place on that channel
That channel hides behind the appearance of factual educational content, but is presenting random evidence that goes in favor of his narrative, and pretends that to be enough to make bold conclusions that nutrition professionals would never jump to.
Oh THAT channel tbh I thought you were talking about UN like, “I’m not super sure what u mean BUT I’m interested in what u have to say” lol
@@hayleerodriguez2711 Hahah oh no!! I meant What I've learned, probably easy to misunderstand whoops
When he said that every carbohydrate is just glucose and is bad if this is in our bloodstream, I just facepalmed. Does this doctor even know that glucose is the fuel of our brain? They're just thinking to easy and one sided. There ist so much more about Carbohydrates than just the glucose in our bloodstream. Yeah of course you can live mostly on fat, but it's not a sustainable and not healthy way long term.
I was a really impressable teenager and I just believed the magazines who just said that carbohydrates in general are bad and that they just make you fat. Years and years I was so afraid about eating carbohydrate and ended up eating low carb. I know that for some people it works, but it didn't work for me. I just didn't had energy, was always tired and hungry and absolutely couldn't concentrate. But I sticked with it because "carbohydrates are so bad".
I started to do research on my own and was so surprised about how important carbohydrates are for your body and started to study nutrition science at a university.
Even I know better now I sometimes have moments where I think: "Oh I shouldnt eat rice with my chickpea curry because it both have carbohydrates"... It's sad but I'm in therapy now and this thought are getting better. It's not good that there are people out there who spread this kind of "information" on a platform like TH-cam with many young impressable people and I'm really glad that there are TH-camr like you who try to warn others to not blindly listen to those people.
Love you unnatural vegan. I'm still eating meat sometimes but you inspired me to reduce animal products in my diet and I'm working on elimating more and more of it over the time. 😊
Greatings from Germany (sorry if my englisch is not the best, but I think you can all understand what I wanted to say 😋)
Oh god, I nearly fell into the rawtil4 mess when I was a teenager and at the height of my eating disorder. Proper education and nutritional literacy makes a huge difference.
Carbs are addictive and make you hungry for more.
But there is no essential carbs unless you are a type 1 diabetic on an insulin pump (or have an extremely rare genetical disease, prfyri). The human body makes the glucose you need to fuel the brain.
As a research scientist... those graph squiggles had me 😂 That should be enough to discredit the entire channel. I'm so tired of seeing youtubers misinterpret (regardless of intention) research and prop up bad science, but speak as if they are qualified to do so. And I'm still laughing about the squiggles!
Yeah, what was the logic supposed to be of the ones they joined up?! What did they think they were showing?! It's not join the dots!
@@testosteronic Well there are situations in which you might be interested to group pieces of data together like this (kinda) but this ain't it...
It was an interesting interpretation of a scatterplot to be sure.
Same. I am a student researcher still, I was just like.... yikes, is this how people not educated in math and science see scatter plots??? haha.
Then why are you watching this TH-camr channel?? Isn't that contradictory?
Without knowing much about the subject, I'd guess that one can't extrapolate a whole society's diet from its wealthiest members.
Rich Egyptians were the most able to access proper embalming techniques thus more likely preserving their bodies up to modern times. Until recently, wealthy members of society ate more decadently. At the very least, they were not telling examples of that society's diet.
That is a point you are having there, rich people do ate a lot of white bread leading to Beri-Beri and also Gout (that was known in ancient Egypt) is associated with high alcohol and sweat beverage consumption (beer was invented in ancient Egypt as well)
@@victorlupu7008yep, but the ancient egyptian beer wasnt near strong as the "modern" beer.. it didnt had the same alcool percentage
THANK YOU for talking about this guy. I was recommended one of his videos about sleep some time ago, when I was suffering from insomnia. I looked at more of his content after that and noticed exactly what you're pointing out. He makes it SOUND like he knows what he's talking about by referencing science and studies, but it's clear he often doesn't and is misunderstanding or misrepresenting.
LS AE I’m good, I know the difference between talking about a study and showing as well as linking a study.
You should be careful. That you can prove something rather than just saying something.
LS AE I’ve been subscribed to her for a long time. She’s privated most if not all of those videos and has critiqued herself by reviewing them years later.
I’m not saying she’s perfect. Definitely not saying she’s always been perfect. Kind of hard to hold videos against her that she’s hidden, debunked, doesn’t make money off of and occasionally critiques as well.
LS AE definitely don’t think she’s all knowing nor did I indicate she’s all knowing. It’s easy to just scroll up and see what I said.
As well as anyone can search any referenced studies in any video. Much of what this dude says in most of his videos isn’t even referenced and takes a lot more effort to even attempt to research. That was my point.
Even his video about sleep, the first I watched only references a single study and doesn’t link that study in the video. That’s my point.
I remember side eyeing that channel when he interviewed a pro carnivore diet woman and did not challenge her points at all...
One thing I do like about his channel is him giving the study and research information that is out there.
As for low carb diets themselves more research can be had, but I feel like personal research is always best, do what makes you feel healthy. Been low carb for about a year and I feel the best I have in my whole life.
The best thing about him giving all that study info is that it allows people like UV to show how h'es completely misrepresented it.
And, uh, no, 'personal research' is not always best, it's anecdotal and can easily lead you into error. Do what makes you feel good? A lot of people feel great on a low-carb, high-meat diet for quite a while before having to pay the piper for eating so much artery-hardening, cancer-causing stuff. Check out Plant Chompers' videos on how long nutritional influencers live.
its so weird how body shape and size has determined one's social position in the past, and even today. like, the thinner you were - the poorer you were. nowadays, the bigger you are the poorer you are. (of course thats not the entire truth. bodies are diverse and wealth and social status dont inheritly determine your size - thats not how things actually work.)
but the wealthy have more expendable time to focus on their weight and more money to but healthier foods. its so strange how healthy foods have also become a sort of status symbol.
I'm a neuro & my partner's an ER doc & we burst into laughter at multiple times during this vid. I can't believe any licensed physician would be making the statements this individual made. The most entertaining misinformation was when he stated that constipation isn't helped by eating fiber bc it will make the stool "bigger" & therefore harder to pass through "the small hole." I... hope he doesn't treat any patients
I don't see what's so hilarious tbh. It makes sense. I suffer from constipation due to long term opiate use for a back injury. Whilst i agree softeners can make sense, bulking up my stool with laxatives actually makes things worse for the reasons given. It makes them bigger and therefore very difficult and painful to pass. I am terrified of laxatives. My GP encouraged it at first but constant attempts caused pain and fear. He told me to stop. Ridiculing something when not affected or deciding it is 'outrageous' is one of the reasons why new theory takes so long to go widespread. Different strokes and all that.
@@tkps Laxatives don't make stool bulkier... I understand you have this problem, but your approach is strange. They are finding what he said hilarious because human body doesn't work like he had described
TKPS i think these doctors find it funny, because your case is definitely not the norm. For the average patient complaining of constipation, constipation is not caused by long term opiate use, but more often by their eating and drinking habits.
@@myrhythm7522 "Laxatives don't make stool bulkier" Based on what?
@@tkps Same for me. Do you take lactulose?
Here's a link I found useful, it's from a guy who was a farmacist and was faced with worst outcomes with every common constipation recommendation: increase water, increase fiber, do excercise. Turns out that by what he researched, constipation is aided by iodine and proper thyroid function, sleep, and more I can't remember. The site also has extensive information on laxatives, they good and bad sides and the good and bad sides of fiber (and how they not aid constipation).
My favorite thing is when the studied they use actually refute their claims
When cherry picking is not enough, you sort to picking cherries from your cherries. :)
I see it in a lot of Freelee’s videos. I’ll pause the video on something she’s highlighted in a study and I’ll read around it and literally the body of the text outside of the highlighted part will refute the claim 😂
It actually didn't, she misrepresents it and then adds her own wrong facts about the topic.
This is what happened to Ancel Keys….
@@RaVeN1K yes
Ok, I'm half way through, I don't know if you're still going to touch on this, but the whole point of carbs is that they can be broken down into Glucose (which our brains really freaking love and need) but aren't just straight up Glucose, which immediately puts you into a sugar rush. When you eat pure sugar it starts getting into your bloodstream in your mouth (I swear I sound smarter in German). But complex carbohydrates don't do that, your spit can't break them down enough, so the Glucose in them doesn't start to get released until it's truly reached your digestive system where it gets released SLOWLY, not causing a spike in blood sugar. This is literally nutrition 101, I learnt this stuff in highschool.
2 points after watching the video: I want to hit that doctor, he's being so cocky, I can't. I also want a sheep, but I live in a flat in the city so that will have to wait, but eventually I'll have my farm with rescue animals and several of them will be sheep.
i want a rescue cow
I used to binge your videos a year or so ago but haven't watched any of your content since then. Today I saw you mentioned in another video and jeez I forgot how much I love your stuff! Keep up the good work, I'll have to catch up on all the content I've missed c:
I just watched that guy's video and was thinking WHAT? Happily I saw your video next. Thank you!
oh god that doctor is Australian I think. The shame....
i'm a type 1 diabetic, and a lot of the online guidelines about diets include bread and pasta and cookies, not because doctors believe that its the best thing for diabetes blood sugar management, but because it's how normal people tend to eat. being diagnosed with diabetes is very isolating and scary, suddenly you have to think constantly about your food. diabetics have a much higher depression and suicide rate because living with a chronic illness is hard. having a normal diet and being able to eat the way your friends do, alleviates that.
anecdotal evidence, but, i've tried very low carb/keto diets before, and i dont know why but i still needed to take SO much insulin and my blood sugars were constantly high. i've found that eating about 100g of carbs keeps my insulin sensitivity high.
there is no cure for diabetes, nothing you eat will ever make it go away. there is no diet that will cure you. as long as you take your insulin, you can eat whatever you want.
I know type 1s including a doctor who do not have to take insulin. They have to walk for a couple of hours a day and eat lowish carb to do it. If they skip the exercise they have to take some insulin that day
@@tomjones2157 that's probably type 2 or in very very early diagnosis of type 1 when the pancreas is still functioning a little.
type 1's produce no insulin at all. if there is no insulin in the system to break down sugars (including the glycogen released automatically by your liver), the body starts breaking down fat for energy, releasing high amounts of ketones into the blood. this causes the blood to become acidic and could kill.
@@joanna6878 yes, i feel very bad for all you with Type 1 Diabetes. I'm sorry you have to go through all that. Then all the people around that talk like they know anything about it at all. Most people really only know about Type 2 Diabetes and treat Type 1 Diabetics as if they are the same. I am glad you have found a way that works for you without isolating you from all you friends and family.
@@tomjones2157 comments like this make type 1 diabetics feel alone and filled with rage. No that is not true. Do not tell someone with a chronic disease to do something you heard once from someone. Before you comment google the thing. Better yet don't comment.
That may be true for you but not others. My husband has severe Crohns and has been in remission for 2 years since Keto and my mother has her blood sugar under control on Keto. It took them both about 6 months of strict eating until the could get off their meds, if it weren’t for those diets they would still be suffering and depressed. I’m sorry the diets didn’t work out for you like many others.
38:45 you're literally doing the same thing. How can you be demoralized if you have no morals of your own?
it's a cult bro
We only started grinding grains 10,000 years ago, which is when modern diseases began. Is that just a coincidence?
There is so much wrong here that I can't even begin to make a comment. However, I would like to thank you for the number of cute animal pictures and video clips you included because they kept my brain from exploding.
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“Sperm doesn’t lead to the creation of babies because it’s actually a woman’s body that has to produce an egg that fuses with the sperm.
So women create babies. By themselves! The sperm doesn’t count... because... I say so?”
Lmao that’s what this guy sounds like when talking about Vitamin A and Beta carotene 😂
I love your videos! Thank you
I have UC, put it into remission with diet similar conceptually to what he talks about. Basically a type of modified keto. And so have many others. Everyone's autoimmune disorder is unique, so I can completely understand how a carnivore diet could work for some people
Our ancestors lived that way for 200,000 years, it works for all people who have problems.
The lighting in this video is great! Love the shirt.
People like WIL have the highly regarded “Jordan Peterson Degree” also known as the TH-cam Degree.
My first though was Jordan Peterson drivel
Ironically the only lecture of Jordans ive seen was on egypt (mythology). It was also painfully wrong and based in a debunked theory that he couldnt be bothered to fact check
LS AE UV advises her audience to follow consensus by actual experts in the field, she does not present that she knows everything and she certain,y does not spread misinformation.
@@kirstenwilliams9246 she made non-stop mistakes throughout this video. At the last 10min of her video she literally couldn't even be bothered to read the entire result of the blood test What I've Learned put on screen. He never made the claim that the results showed deficiency and neither did the actual test. In fact, had she read literally the second sentence she would have retracted her statement.
She put words into his mouth and deliberately gas lighted people by avoiding information right in front of her eyes as well as everyone else's. She's the definition of disingenuous.
I unsubscribed because of this video that he did. It was a bit over reaching for me. Yall eat what works for you. I’m tired of people removing food types from their diet.
Great video. ♥
Ok but why is the way the doctor is sat on his chair so annoying??
Everything about that doctor is annoying.
I'm trying to figure this whole low carb, high carb issue out. So you called the sports medicine doctor a quack. You must have some credentials of your own to be able to make that assertion. Maybe you could share those qualifications, thanks.
your channel is a breath of fresh air, thank you so much. it's unbelievable that people feel comfortable peddling such dangerous misinformation. commenting hoping that the algorithm blesses this vid
its unbelievable that most people can't/won't accept that they've been lied to
Finally someone is talking about this channel!
@Mahtiah Hildrilae I only follow this vegan channel, because I'm not vegan. So I don't even know who this Micthevegan is. You know what it means to assume?
You are so witty, talented, creative, and beyond inspiring to watch! I'm a Pescatarian at the moment, but I'm getting closer and closer to an entirely plant-based diet, thanks to people like you!
Thank you so much for addressing this channel. I stumbled upon it recently and really wondered about all his claims. Please continue addressing the videos on his channel.
First, love you Swayze!
It's terrifying to me that people will just make a TH-cam account and be like "saturated fat is totally fine". Thanks for making this response, I make TH-cam videos too and I feel like we'd probably get along lol
In full context, I don’t think I’ve ever hear WIL push the message that saturated fats are “totally fine”. After watching most of his videos, the impression that I am left with is that: naturally sourced saturated fats like those is avocados, olive oil, or egg yolks shouldn’t be demonized just because they contain fat.
He could certainly be wrong about some of the conclusions that he comes to; but on the larger scale, I find his content pretty genuine & non-malicious.
@@tynj4173 I agree
I can attest that getting rid of fibre that made me fart and gave me painful bloated gut indeed made pooping a joy and breeze. still eat lots of fibre though, just not of the kale and bean sort.
14:29, fat intake? Does the study specify the type of fat?
WOW!! this guy XD you are amazing keep making those pleeeeeeeease
Entirely unrelated but Swayze your HAIR!!!! 😻 It looks so thick and healthy.
Thank you for shutting his video down. Like you said, “embarrassing.”
I wish I could like this video multiple times!
Super info great video
Okinawan diet considered pork fat an essential part of their health...
Lmao. I laughed so hard at 7:30 😂 (it’s from The Sinner on Netflix) hahahaha
Got an ad for sugar while watching this. It’s a sign
I was a hardcore keto dieter (for beauty/fat loss reasons) for 1.5 years where I almost only ate meat and fat, and yes I was at my leanest I've ever been, but it broke my bowels so bad. I didn't think anything of the fact that I was only having 1-2 bowel movements a week until my colon ripped open (severe anal fissure). It took about a year to reverse the damage of that.
I think there are benefits to low-carb, but when both people in that video were like "yeah man 0 carb diet is totally ideal and cures bowel disorders" I wrote them off completely.
The first time I read anything about the health and diet of the ancient Egyptians was in the book Proteini Power by Dr. Michael Eades. Dr. Eades pointed to the grain based diet as causing the diabetes and cardiac problems of the ancient Egyptians. You have taken a position based on opinion.
are French Fries refined carbs? asking for a friend...
He has an expertise at sounding like he has an expertise at everything.
Thanks for reminding people meat allergies are a thing! People are always so shocked that I’m allergic to most meat
Is it the meat or what they put in meat-meaning what they feed these poor animals who aren't allowed to graze naturally, antibiotic drips, corn waste etc.?
What are the symptoms? (A purely curious, non-hostile question, if that needs to be made clear).
guarantee its not the meat but something that animal ate or got injected with. no ones allergic to meat, humans have been eating it for their entire existence way before they even tried plants
@@TT-wx4tg That is a great question!
My Brain is Broken (RE: Your poor diet?)
What I've learned is supper triggering for me
Your expression when you're explaining /literally/ basic /shit/ to someone legit had my laughing so hard
Just? Why? Are people? So dense?
If not people, that egg yolk sure is!
I would like to see you review Dr Fung
As a Physics student in my last year of studies i have to say... I really wish data analysis worked like that!! I found that little laugh of her about his random lines So compelling
Unnatural Vegan is one of the best TH-cam channels in existence :)
Thanks alot. This made MY brain hurt! 🧠
"well you know, wood is just a bunch of little splinters all together" I DIED. I love you
I love the videos where you just lay the law down and show just how intelligent you are.
Hey could you maybe also comment on his reaction(He wrote an article)?
I hope, one day, some awesome person will give you an amazing pixie haircut, you are going to love :)
I love you for being a good TH-camr can exposing fake news
good info
Re: 07:30 : If I remember correctly, the scene is from" The Sinner" season 3 :D
I remember when I first saw this guys channel I thought it was pretty interesting (i didnt know much about research and studies) but quickly saw his obvious bias and push for keto and anti-carbs....needless to say I stopped watching lmao
Honestly, that's what got me interested in the channel in the first place. I got fat and had health issues on a high carb, low fat, low protein diet and felt much better after switching back to an omni diet. Lost weight too because I wasn't so crazy hungry all the time anymore. But yeah, looking at the science it's clear that very different diets are effective for different people and some do well on high carb.
it actually tricked me too when i first saw this channel. but my whole life i have been pretty obsessed with learning about health and nutrition. i remember when i was young (about 13) i had to force my mom to buy the original kashi (i belive it was kashi anyway) cereal and the rest of my family was like "why do you want to eat sticks and twigs cereal?!?" well because it was the only cereal around that had whole grains in it and wasn't highly processed with pounds of sugar. XD
but after i watched a few of the videos i quickly realized how biased this persons channel is and that he does not represent most of the studies he cites correctly. its kind of crazy about people these days. the ones who want to believe what they want to believe will believe anything that agrees with them, or they will warp things into agreeing with them and then the rest of the people are just like "yeah this guy said so and he cited this and this and sounded like he had authority so i believe it."
Any time I encounter a new channel that's trying to teach me something, the first thing I do after watching the video (if it's good enough to hook me) is check their video history. I watched their video on vegetable oil and it's decently well researched and fair, no knock against it specifically (tho I'm certainly not gonna take it as the final word on the subject), but after looking at their history is extremely clear that there is a specific agenda being pushed. Everyone has a bias of course. Sometimes, like the current channel we're on, that agenda is pretty straightforwardly obvious (she's got "vegan" right in the channel name!) but I'm much less of a fan of channels that try to hide their bias behind neutrality, especially when a bit of digging is all it takes to show it. That usually sets off alarm bells for me
Aren't we all biased?
Where did you get that shirt!? Great video, btw!!
I'm so glad you debunked this WIL video too! Very funny and detailed. Thanks for this!
"[mini-rant on constipation]... This is basic _shit!_ "
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You've killed me, woman.
Most of the so called "refined carbs" are also high fat. If you replace saturated fat with plain white rice or plain white pasta (no added animal fat or oil) plus vegetables, that is absolutely healthier than a stick of butter and vegetables or a tub of lard and vegetables. Refined "carbs" like cookies, pastries, donuts, chips, pies, and ice cream are high fat.
Not for everyboby
And you'll be hungry again in an hour and eat more. Replace some of that pasta with protein and fat you'll be full for 5-6 hours (on the same amount of calories)
It is clear you have an agenda. You don't care about facts. A stick of butter and vegetables will ensure you get what little nutrients there are in those vegetables into your system via the butter along with its nutrients. All the refined carbs you mention have VEGETABLE OILS in them, not fat except maybe the icecream depending on who made it. Too much omega 6 (plant oils mostly) is the cause of excess inflammation in the arteries which is why cholesterol and calcium etc goes to 'fix' it in turn possibly causing unintended blockages leading to possible heart attacks/strokes. None of this is as straight forward as you think.
@@christina7454 I can eat 2500 calories of plain white rice and I feel completely full and satisfied and don't feel hungry again for at least another 18 hours. Most of the time I eat 100% whole carbs like quinoa, oats, whole wheat pasta, potatoes, sweet potatoes, and fruit, but even when I eat a big meal of white rice, I can stay full and satisfied for at least 18 hours if not longer. I can eat 2000 calories of plain potatoes or sweet potatoes or anywhere from 2000-3000 calories of rice, quinoa, oats, or whole wheat pasta depending on how hungry I am and stay full for at least 18 hours. There also is plenty of protein and fat in all of those. 2000 calories of rice has 44 grams of protein and 15 grams of fat. 2000 calories of potatoes has 42 grams of protein and 3 grams of fat, 2000 calories of quinoa has 77 grams of protein and 33 grams of fat, 2000 calories of oats has 70 grams of protein and 34 grams of fat, 2000 calories of whole wheat pasta has 80 grams of protein and 23 grams of fat, 2000 calories of garbanzo beans has 108 grams of protein and 32 grams of fat. 2000 calories of lentils have 6 grams of fat and 155 grams of protein. If you eat 2000+ calories of whole grains, legumes, and or starchy vegetables, you can easily get more than enough protein and a decent amount of fat even without high fat plant foods. I would eat a little more fat from nuts or avocados if I felt like I needed it but I don't. 5-15% fat work's perfectly for me. Some days I only eat fruit which is even less protein and fat and even then I don't have to eat more than once or twice a day and can fast for at least 18 hours.
@@tkps 200 calories of vegetables have far more nutrients than 2,000 calories of butter, lard, beef tallow, and duck fat. Butter has Vitamin A and that's it. That's it's only strength. It only has a moderate amount of Vitamin E that you could easily get way more of in green vegetables and sweet potatoes. 2000 calories of butter has 6.5 mg of E, and 2000 calories of sweet potatoes has 24.7 mg, almost 4 times as much per calorie as butter. Just 200 calories of broccoli has 11.5 mg of E, 17 times higher per calorie than butter. The amount of Vitamin D in butter is a joke. 2000 calories of butter gives you only 150 IU of D, which is nothing. You need 1000 IU a day at the very minimum. No food can give you enough, whether plant or animal foods. You need sunlight or a supplement. There is k2 which has not proven to be essential, and even if it were you can get much more from natto and other plant sources. Why are there meat eaters who take MK7 supplements? They apparently don't think animal foods have enough. So other than preformed A and K2, neither of which are essential, you get nothing else, even if you ate 2000 calories of it. All the other animal fats like beef tallow, lard, and duck fat don't even have vitamin A or Vitamin K. They are completely empty. They just have tiny amounts of Vitamin E that you could easily get far more of in plant foods like broccoli and sweet potatoes and others. 2000 calories of beef tallow has only 60 IU of Vitamin D, which is nothing. 2000 calories of lard has 226 IU, which is not nearly enough, and if you ate that much lard, you would get nothing else, so it's empty calories. Duck fat has 430 IU per 2000 calories, which is still not nearly enough, and you would get nothing else if you ate that much, so it would be a waste of calories. If you ate 2000 calories of quinoa, oats, rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, fruits, beans, and lentils, as well as some greens and other vegetables, you would get all those B vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin K, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, zinc, copper, selenium, chromium, manganese, iron, and other minerals that all those animal fats lack. The so called healthy oils like olive oil, coconut oil, and avocado oil also are empty calories just like those animal fats. The only have Vitamin E and nothing else.
bless you
Where is the cat t shirt from?:)
Lol, his squiggles! As a Biologist when I saw his inability to understand the graph that just put me over the edge laughing! I love your commentary.
I don't know what was right or wrong about his graph, but it is actual, verified fact that Ancel Keys lied in his famous study, and completely left out countries in it that didn't go with his hypothesis. It was really a 22 country study. So that is dishonest science, that can't be trusted. Also, Ancel Keys lived to a ripe old age of 100 eating what he called a mediterranean-style diet that include animal products and, in his words, lots of unsaturated fats. So he stayed healthy and lived a long life doing the opposite of what he imposed on all of us. And that, as well, is verified fact.
Ah, that is probably why I tend to use the bathroom after drinking coffee, since I hear coffee stimulates the 'bowel muscles', 🤔 makes sense.
haha, hey big hooty Vegan, love your hooties as always. tx. I watched this video a few days ago and I thought... I am no expert but it sounds funny. aand I find your video that confirms my suspicion.
He does realize the richer in society has the best excess to meat and food in general. How can he not realize anything?!
How can you not realise yourself that your sentence says the opposite of what you think it states? Not that it matters since WIL did adress the differences between the rich and poor that might exist.
I admit I was laughing but the really sad thing is some people will believe him which could make them ill so not that funny but dangerous!!!
I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart! I don’t consider myself a vegan, I just don’t eat a lot of meat and don’t love it that much🤷🏼♀️ I am deficient in iron dew to heavy periods and “how knows what else”😂 Anyways, I’ve been looking for different ways to improve my diet without adding animal products in it (constantly arguing with my doctors) And since I’ve discovered your channel, I feel much more confident about my knowledge. Especially about vitamins. It helps a lot to be more aware of what I eat and what tests I need to run on a regular basis to understand my body needs better. I don’t know why, but in my country it is not a common thing to check your blood for vitamin deficiency 🤷🏼♀️ So thank you for being responsible and genuine 🌹
Does this man not remember the “where’s the beef” commercials from the 90s
Yes!! Oxalate can be reduced by cooking veggies!!
I think hotpot is a great option. Spinach and kale in hotpot tastes so good. (I used to hate kale in salad but it tasted delicious when my aunt cooked it..)
I remember recommending this guy to you, glad you finally did a video on him! I am quite proud that I catch a lot of these manipulations myself (like the 'we can't compare ourselves to rabbits, but we can to sheep' part,), but I don't have the time to look at the studies myself, so thank you for this.
For posterity, it’s not the same comparison. He was talking about studies done on rabbits with sat. fats. You can’t compare how a rabbit reacts to high sat fat with a human. Rabbits are notoriously fragile digesters. They need to stick to their grass. Humans are omnivores. they can tolerate high fat. In the sheep example you can compare humans because we’re talking about oxalates in leafy greens, which are harmful in large amounts to both livestock and humans, and even rabbits.
So really we’re delineating between fats and oxalates, not rabbits vs humans and sheep vs humans. If he started talking about studies on sheep and fats, you’d be right, but it’s a different topic at that point, oxalates, which herbivores and omnivores have a comparable intolerance for.
Digestum Systems is my new stripper name
The ancient Egyptians whose bodies are preserved are mostly royalty and rich people, they could have ate just about as much high calorie animal based food as they wanted and didn't have to exercise much and don't even remotely resemble the average Egyptian.
They also ate rwfined grains and drnak too much
I believe everyone needs to find the food that works for them. For me, the lion diet (ruminant nose to tail, salt and water) was how I healed myself. Organ meats have more vitamins, nutrients and minerals than vegetables. I lost 75 pounds over a year and gained 50% strength in one month. I had leaky gut from vegetables and grains and I have a genetic mutation of the MTHFR gene, as does about 40% of the population. This means that I can not digest folic acid which is what the food industry sprays on grain to "fortify" or "enrich" grains. They are literally spraying poison for 40% of the population on grain products. I am reintroducing vegetables but mostly cruciferous and allium ones. I am raising my own vegetables and meat now. It is interesting to see how my body reacts to the foods I use to eat all the time, especially the processed ones. It is scary!
High production, nice editing and visuals is all it takes I guess...
When I took a nutrition class for an elective in college the professor often told us how doctors are not required to take any nutrition classes, and that after that class we would all have more nutrition education than almost all doctors. So yes just because that guy is a doctor doesn't mean he knows shit about nutrition.
Are all doctors trained in exactly the same way the world over? If so any doctor can walk into any country and practise, yet they can't. Why? Different training.
@@tkps good point, I'm talking about the us specifically. Not sure about other countries
How does it feel to waste money to learn the complete opposite of natural human nutrition which is raw meat organs and raw animal fat???
This shit triggers me, and you are soothing to my soul ❤️❤️