This has me thinking what if “getting caught” was the plan the whole time? What if he wanted to get caught so they WOULD pay him and he could go about his life no longer tied to the “I love my wife and kids” label anymore?? What if Alex wanted the same? Bc to me that’s the only “reason” to be in public, like they WANTED to get caught. Eugene(Ariel’s best friend according to ppl) doesn’t talk bc he knows once he starts he would def get sued😅
I know you said you're not going to cover drama again but let's say... Hypothetically speaking... Eugene and Becky start drunk tweeting and spilling tea, would you?
Ned is not just a cheater, he's a malignant narcissist...similar to Trump, Cosby, and others. He's beyond help (narcissist rarely respond to therapy)...Ariel needs to leave him, and work for the Try Guys as a creator (plus take half of his settlement).
Ariel isn't only a cast member, but also the interior designer for their office and was even featured in Architectural Digest for both her home and the try guys office renovations. She supported ned when they left buzzfeed even though they were expecting their first child and losing the insurance from the company and ned still had the audacity to cheat on her
This! When they started the company Ariel was very very pregnant and the fact that she supported Ned leaving a stable job (and health care!) so that he can pursue his dreams. Ugh. She was with him when he was starting and struggling and now that he's successful he has the audacity to cheat on her.
Something that has been weighing heavy on my mind since this news broke was thinking back to when they first started the company. Their first office space was literally Ned and Ariel's old house. He was an integral part of getting things going in the beginning, he obviously cared a lot about this. To go from starting the company with your friends and your wife and newborn son to just being willing to throw it all away by cheating in public is so crazy to me. That man needs therapy.
@@sakuranovaryan9261 I think it's important to remember that that feelings do change over time. So I do think at the start he did genuinely care about the Try Guys and keeping things together. Just like I think he genuinely did love his wife. But something changed along the way, and unfortunately instead of handling it dozen other ways, he choose an extremely damaging route.
He did admit it himself in a video cheating people has big issues. Seems like his mid life crises came early, he has always beena fratboy at heart. Now he felt restricted he wants to go play around.
Also one of the first videos they made after leaving buzzfeed was Ned simulating the entire labor process Ariel went through and making a lot of content about his baby and like "I'm a family man now". I never support people making content off their kids anyway but if you do, at least be smart enough to be able to maintain that image over time.
Apparently in CA, other employees can also sue if they think Alex got preferential treatment because Ned dated Alex. Wild stuff. Ned is beyond the worst.
Yeah, it happened at my old job once here in CA. Caused a commotion cuz someone stole thousands of dollars in bonuses other people earned because they were sleeping with the boss. It's messed up...
I was thinking about the lawyer part too. It can be USD 200-400 per lawyer per hour. I wont be surprised if the bill would be a couple hundred thousand. Just fees alone. Not even counting merch, contract breaking, etc
Not just CA. So, before anyone thinks this stunt is ok in other places, I want to dispel anyone of that notion. I don’t live in CA and if I did this I would get escorted out. And before anyone screams, it penalizes men - I am a woman. I have seen a woman get canned for getting friendly at a holiday party with a subordinate. Companies don’t want this mess. You want to date a colleague? It better be in another department and it needs to be registered with HR or good bye.
I wouldn't call it pettiness, haha. In the podcast, the question was whether the remaining Try Guys and Ned coodinated responses, which is influenced by the fact the responses looked similar in appearance. As Keith points out, it would benefit Ned if people assumed the responses were coodinated together.
i’m so glad you covered this cause i’ve seen too many people say “he only cheated, why is he getting fired and cancelled, everyone makes mistakes” like…. there’s LAYERS
One thing I want to add is that Ariel supported Ned for years in whatever he was doing. He left Buzzfeed when she was pregnant and they lost their health insurance and she still went for it. She stayed home for the kids, she gave up her own career for a good few years so Ned could focus on growing the TryGuys brand and channel. She was pulled into being a part of the brand because of him, first because he would not shut up about her and then as an active part of the channel. This was her livelihood as well and whatever she decides to do, I am sure she won't be returning to the podcasts or the video segments she was a part of. I am guessing they will stop selling their cook book soon. She was able to start working as an interior designer again through Ned but now, if she ever decides to work in the field again, when people search up her name they will find this scandal and the two things she has designed that she is most known for: the TryGuys office and the house she lives(ed?) in with Ned. All tied up with her cheating husband. He completely ruined everything for her when she sacrificed everything for him.
@@ForeverFashionGirl21 some probably wouldn't want to have people attached to drama working with them (not every company obviously just depending on which one) and even when it wouldn't deter her it would be embarrassing to have people ask about it when coming to look for potential job opportunities
Honestly, I feel really bad for Ariel and Alex’s ex-fiancé. How can you make your whole personality about your wife and then just slap her in the face by cheating (openly!) with an employee! Really it’s sooo messy. I would hope she would leave him, but by the look of it, she won’t, which makes me so sad. She deserves so much better than him. Also, the office must be hella awkward if Alex is still working at the office 👀
She still has young kids, his source of income is cut, one of her sources of income is cut. They probably have a house and cars and investments that will be hard to pay for now but can't back out of. They probably have joint income in a lot of projects and opportunities introduced by way o the try guys and she'd have to pay a shit load of money to financially divorce herself from him. She's kinda stuck with him. Literally.
I'm hoping that her takin Ned out of all her social media bios shows that maybe she'll leave him. But we'll see, I just hope she gets the love she deserves (which currently is not Ned)
I didn't realize that Alex was basically pretending to be Ariel's friend and then screwed her husband behind her back, imagine spending so much time with someone you thought was your friend, only for them to betray you with your husband.
There’s people that do not care. I knew a girl who was hooking up with her manager and befriended the guys wife on purpose to find out information about them. Needless to say I cut that girl out. Someone who’s capable of doing that needs to stay away from me. 😭
the cheating was so reckless that i almost believed it was a prank 😭 like i thought we'd be seeing a "try guys tries to prank the internet" video later on or something
I 100% think he hated being the “my wife” guy. He didn’t have anything interesting he could use as a personality online so he used his family and ended up feeling trapped. I’m sure he didn’t care that he cheated in public and he probably wanted to get caught
I think there is a video where he states that he wants to stem away from the 'Wife Guy' so he tried to have a rivalry with Eugene. Idk what video it is but it's where they mud wrestle.
Also... what is Alex getting out of this? Blowing up her relationship, losing her job, ruining her reputation... FOR NED? Like if it was Eugene I'd get it, but NED?
Considering he was stopped by a fan for a photo on the same day, I think it was more of the latter. If he was concerned about getting caught, being recognized for a photo should have made him (and maybe Alex too) consider that they should be more discreet just in case.
I realized something: I just learned his wife’s name is Ariel since she was always referred to as WIFE so it doesn’t surprise me one bit he cheated so publicly. He doesn’t love Ariel, he loves the idea she represents as his wife so he did not care at all if he was caught. Poor poor woman, he is the epitome of trash
I have a close family member that has cheated on their wife multiple times and they both constantly post about how much they love eachother and how great they both are. Doing stuff like wishing eachother a happy anniversary online when you live in the same house and could just go talk to them is a red flag to me now.
I've always found social media shoutouts to be odd. If we live in the same house, I can just walk over to you and tell you how much I care about you. The internet doesn't need to see my soliloquy. It feels like a performance.
@@kittmeow7192 My mom always force me to do this on her birthdays or mother's days, even when I made it clear I didn't want to because it felt weird and invasive, like we're literally in the same house mom... you just wanna boast right?
The try guys editing team is absolutely amazing I am blown away with how much they were able to edit him out. I really hope that Ariel, her kids, Will, and they guys are able to heal and get all the comfort they need.
I appreciate you saying her name and showing her face...like she's not innocent here. They were out in PUBLIC making out and shit as public figures and some creators are protecting her name like it makes 0 sense.
the thing that still gets me about this is that when you look at them side by side she was SO out of his league. he should be licking the floor she walks in, specially after she had two of his kids and stayed through the hardships of them founding the try guys as a separate company edit: also Eugene's reaction on their video was the one that broke my heart the most. he's witnessed a messy divorce with his parents (it's one of the reasons on why he's my favorite, i relate to him so much) and to have one of his best friends do this? i would be pissed too
That's the thing He knows in his heart that ariel is WAY out of his league so he looked to the next cheaper and easier option which is Alex and cheating so he could feel fulfilled and like a man Screw him honestly
I would love to see her flaunt a new relationship in Ned's face, now with that poisonous barnacle gone she can get someone actually worthy of her, though I'm she'll need a long time to heal.
I've never put much stock in astrology but as a Capricorn I felt very called out by Kennie's (correct) assertion that the worst parts to a Capricorn are messing with the $$$ and "if you're going to cheat, at least don't cheat stupidly and make me have to clean up your mess" 1000% accurate. As for why he did it that way- selfishness and cowardice are my guess. Guys like Ned love the positive attention that comes from being "the family man" and "the devoted husband" (Kennie finds it boring but I'm sure some insecure guys starting a family probably looked up to Ned as a role model for how to be a good husband/father and women who felt unappreciated by their own husbands probably loved Ned's seeming devotion- and relayed that to him) but hate the reality of the actual work it takes to make a marriage & family work. The wife starts being a "nag", the kids are loud & annoying, your sex life sucks, work's gotten monotonous, etc. In turn, the idea of having a fiery, new passion-based relationship with a woman who thinks you're great because she's never had to unclog the toilet after you defiled it starts looking better and better. And his selfishness, his "I deserve to be happy no matter what this might do to my family" ego lets him justify the choice to cheat. The public nature of the cheating I think goes hand-in-hand with the cowardice of Ned not being able to just leave his wife (having mistaken the honeymoon-phase nature of his affair relationship as being "oh, the reason I was unhappy in my marriage is because I made a mistake and married the wrong woman, this new woman is really who my soulmate is and I'm going to leave my wife, marry her, and surely live happily ever after this time") He lacks the spine to just end his marriage so he cheats publicly to force his wife's/his own hand if he's caught. Which of course he immediately backs down from when actually caught, hence his whole "I'm re-focusing on my family" nonsense.
This is very well said, and I 100% agree.... It's too bad he couldn't just 'Man up' - pardon the phrase - and just get a fvcking divorce if he hated his wife that much. smdh
i was looking at the bridesmaids video yesterday and it was so uncomfortable watching alex and ned interacting after knowing the truth :( my heart goes out to their respective spouses/families
I've been avoiding this situation for the longest time because... I kinda don't care - I have no attachment to the Try Guys, so I felt no need to look into it. With Kennie covering it? Now I'm invested. After the hilariously dry fileting of the Don't Worry Darling "drama," I'm now thoroughly invested in hearing about what this whole dumpsterfire entails.
Very late to this, but every time I see Eugene's face in the announcement video, I think of one thing in particular, and that's the Valentine's Day video. In the video, when asked about what he likes the most about Ned, Eugene genuinely and sincerely compliments Ned for having good, family-centered values, and expresses how important he thinks that is for people to see; for people to believe that love is real and marriage is still sacred for some people. And this is coming from Eugene, someone who is pretty openly cynical about love and marriage and all that stuff from being a child of divorce. And then, Ned just goes and shatters the entire Try Guy family. To me, I read his face as absolute hatred, but not just a hatred for destroying all the work they'd done or even for destroying his family, but for making Eugene believe or subscribe to the fact that genuine true love and the sanctity of marriage were real- or at least that they were real and important to Ned. Hell, even fans expressed this feeling of "if someone as obsessed with his family as Ned could do this, then how can I even believe in love anymore?" I don't know if this is how he felt on any level, and I get I'm probably psychoanalyzing this a bit too much, but I just think it's important to acknowledge the unique ways this kind of betrayal effects EVERYONE around you, not just the partner you cheated on.
No lie, even back in the buzzfeed days when I watched, I remember ned being "the married guy". That was what set him apart back then, and I'm just now remembering since it's been so long. I honestly hope she still prospers because he was honestly riding on her the whoolleee time. I hope her and the kids are well.
You’re so right about the nerve of him not even hiding it. not only that he was in public cheating…he took a picture with a fan…while cheating?? At a concert? What in the ham sandwich.
Alex is as much to blame as Ned is. Ned is married, but Alex was engaged. Both had loyalties to their partners to honour. Regardless of who initiated the relationship with the other, both chose to engage in a romantic, intimate relationship for over a year, with no regard for their families, their friends/coworkers, themselves. Had Ned initiated, Alex could've quit, reported it to HR, she has many avenues to avoid a relationship with him, especially with how close his wife is to the company. If Alex initiated, Ned could've also reported it to HR, told the rest of the team, gave a strong warning to her on her inappropriate behaviour etc. There is no excuse for either of them. Also, people forget Alex's ex- fiancé. They were caught, confronted by the fiancé and they kept going until there was no more hiding it. It's disgraceful and embarrassing. I do hope that Alex's ex (i don't know his name) is doing much better away from her and Ned, and that Ariel is able to come to a conclusion that works for her and those beautiful babies. Whether she stays with Ned or not, whatever benefits the children and allows her to have peace of mind as much as she can is best. God bless them all
Apparently, Ned was the head of the HR department, which makes the situation even more complicated. I'm not defending Alex in this situation, but reporting to HR doesn't seem to have been an option if she wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with him.
I haven't watched the TryGuys since their Buzzfeed days but I gotta say that I'm very impressed with how Eugene, Keith and Zach handled this with so much integrity. This is probably the most professional handling of a scandal that I've seen tbh, especially considering how messed up it is
This entire debaucle made me so pissed because of how just one stupid decision ruined SO MANY PEOPLE, most of which had ZERO involvement with the shit show yet the people who caused it hardly got the same intensity of consequence. It just makes me so mad
Apparently, ned was the wealthiest of the try guys since he invested the most into the company. Also learned that he was hired as a manager for buzzfeed, not as a comedian or entertainer like the other 3 were, and that he was a pain to work with and that it was his idea for them to leave buzzfeed and start their own company. I remember his story about him quitting med school to go into the entertainment business because he lost interest and wanted to pursue a new path, but now I think there are some details in that story that he left out. I think he failed med school and thought going into entertainment would be so easy for him. He was pissed that Buzzfeed didn't find him entertaining and decided to profit off his wife once he discovered how much people like him mentioning her. Eventually, Buzzfeed received so many complaints about him from so many women that they threaten to fire him, so he convinced the other Try Guys to leave the company for "creative freedom" and create their own company (and that he would handle all of the managerial and hr and business stuff due to his experience as a manager and how much money he has compared to them) so he can profit off their talent and charisma. [The concept of Try Guys was Zach's idea but it was probably Ned's idea to leave Buzzfeed. And for the ladies in STEM, you know exactly what type(s) of guy I am talking when I mention that Ned was in STEM. Yeah, that's right. Ned was a cis straight guy in STEM and declared himself as a science guy.] I also don't think this was the first time Ned cheated on Ariel and that he has been cheating on her for a long time. Ariel was definitely hurt, but she didn't seem shocked that he was caught cheating. She acted like a wife frustrated with her husband's constant cheating but still has been putting up with it for so many years. This also explains why Ariel felt insecure about being older than Ned (even though she was only 1 year older than him). A lot of female former Buzzfeed employees got criticized for criticizing Ned, while their male counterparts got praised for do so. A lot of the female Try Guys employees got harassed for being "complicit" or accused of having an affair with Ned while the male employees didn't get that much harassment. YB especially got so much harassment and falsely accused of having an affair with Ned just because she is a non-mixed Asian woman (even after it was confirmed that Ned was having an affair with biracial, half-white, racially ambigious Alex and even after YB implied multiple times that she is no longer friends with Ned and Alex). There was also no HR at Try Guys, so not only was Ned handling all of the business, financial, and managerial stuff but he was also the HR rep for the company as well.
@Yvannna FloryGuerra yep, seconded, he worked as a chemist (not pharmaceutical kind) for a bit, and in the cocktail video he measures stuff like a chemist. Source; am chemist.
Your comment isn't...inaccurate but there's a lot of assumptions in there. A)turns out a lot of (former) Buzzfeed employees didn't even know Ned and even some who did were clearly just cloud chasing B) the guys worked so closely together, if there had been soooooo many women complaining, they would at least have heard rumors C) if Buzzfeed wanted to let Ned go anyway the negotiations could have been handled very differently D) we don't know how Ariel reacted bc we only saw one clip of her weeks after she definitely found out E) female Try Guys employees weren't harassed, YB was, which is unfortunate, but she is a) one person and b) a media presence and c) on camera as often as Alex and d) she's asian, makes engagement content and is less forgettable than Alex, yeah it sucks but on paper she's similar to Alex and ppl jumped to conclusions... Male employees weren't accused of cheating bc Ned is straight and aside from Miles none of them are regularly in front of the camera...
@@fentina getting constant questions about the Ned scandal and accused of being complicit about the situation and random people looking you up when you are not a public figure also count as harassment. Getting accused of not telling Ariel earlier just because they work or have worked with him counts as harassment and misinformation. We cannot accuse every former buzzfeed employee of clout-chasing at ned's expense or being complicit of ned's infidelity at ariel's expense. There is a reason why a lot of the former buzzfeed employees that have worked with Ned were not surprised about the scandal and said he was a pain to work with. If you go back and watch the "why I left buzzfeed" videos, some of the themes that were mentioned (besides crap pay and abuse of interns) was male favoritism and difficulty to move up in the company. Due to the competitive nature buzzfeed set up between their employees, you cannot be surprised if there are former buzzfeed employees that have a grudge against ned. Even the ones that barely knew him kept getting asked about the scandal online.
@Yvannna FloryGuerra so Ned never tried to go into med school? I knew he was a chemist but I thought he was attending med school while working as a chemist since I remember him mentioning med school in a few videos.
What stuck with me most about the whole situation is if they wanted to cover it up and sweep it under the rug, I 100% think they would've gotten away with it. The photos taken were so blurry/such poor quality that I don't think it could be used as definitive proof. The fact that they didn't do that and instead handled it the way they were supposed to WITHOUT any public pressure speaks VOLUMES.
I think this is the best take I've seen on the situation, because you really hit the nail on the head about how hurtful it was of him to do this so publicly. Just total disregard for his family.
2:12-2:18 was me yesterday and I absolutely choked 😂 The fact that Ned and the food baby heffa (keep forgetting her name) disregarded their own partners AND careers to the point of being this careless… idk if I’m impressed, appalled, or just absolutely stunned 😮
I know im going to sound a bit crazy but this is my conspiracy/prediction as to how Ned is going to explain his side of “what happened”. I know this is gonna be wordy, but stay with me. The answer is so clear i feel like when it happens the world is gonna roll their eyes so far back into their heads that we might collectively rewind time but to just get into it, its gonna be the same reason given by Jay-Z as to why he cheated on Beyonce. “My life was going so perfect and I had everything I just fell into the path of self destruction” or “My life was cookie cutter that it felt boring” ORRR “ “The stress/anxiety of just all these good things happening to me I was looking for relief/way out/fell into a path of self destruction”. Hes going to tell us that it wasnt Ariels or the kids fault and that its all on him and that all of those emotions he had felt he should have spoken to his spouse or a friend so that he can garner the sympathy and try to make people question Ariel/Try guys support. When he gets to Alex he’s gonna tell us that he wasnt really attracted to her she was just “new” and “fun” and what they had was a friendship but as their bond grew closer he felt he could relate to her on a “simple” level but one day one thing lead to another and they had made a mistake they couldnt come back from and due to those previously listed “excuse” from the beginning he decided to just take the plunge and not come back. He will tell us that he does not excuse the damage he cause to his friends, the company, to alex but most importantly his family but he is only human and the mistakes he made helped him grow and see from a different perspective. He’s going to continue to “grow and change” and he’s not asking for forgiveness cause he knows he doesnt deserve it, but is telling us he is sorry. Like this sounds CRAZYY but doesnt this feel like the exact script hes gonna give us? Like WE KNOW what hes going to say, all them cheaters say the same thing ESPECIALLY the yt guys ngl. Anyways.. let me know if im crazy or not (i know i kinda am tho... but its not the job of my wife n kids to fix me.. its mine😢)
OOORRRRR (i am so... terribly sorry for my uncouth behavior) he's gonna go the complete arrogant route where he says "this has made me a better person and i have no regrets because this was a learning point for me and i dont blame anyone for being mad at me cause I would be mad too but Im gonna work on me" type shit LIKE DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEE??
Coming back to this video cuz my friend has not heard of the ned drama. (We used to watch buzz feed videos when we were younger but she's chronically offline) so we are watching this together. I am enjoying every minute of this.
I think it’s self sabotage. There’s no other explanation for how it played out. He didn’t have the balls to leave . I hope he uses this time to be in deep therapy and Ariel does what she needs to for herself. He ain’t it though. That man does not like you or himself.
im so glad to hear someone w a platform talking abt this from the perspective of an actual fan, it seems like most ppl are just talking abt it for the drama
The only answer to the question of why Ned would do this I can think of is that he has privileged white man syndrome. Knowing how white men are treated with kiddy gloves whenever they do something wrong it's very possible he just did not think it would fall back on him. It's possible that he has gone through life without his actions being scrutinized by others (unlike how many minorities are judged when they go out in public so they have to be very aware of how they are perceived) so he thought he could just slink around and no one would notice what he was doing. It is truly mind boggling how much white men like this think they can get away with, but they only think that because most of the time they do get away with it. Thinking about how things went with Harvey Weinstein and other powerful men that hurt others for years and no one did anything because of their position, if Ned had done this at almost any other company it's very possible he would not have gotten in trouble. The company would care more about the money they already invested in him and the money he could still bring in that they would have covered up the whole affair to avoid a scandal and keep him on. Obviously, the other Try Guys have more integrity than that and did hold him accountable, but in almost any other situation Ned would not have gotten in trouble because in a white supremacist patriarchy like ours, white men are often just not punished like that.
truly there is no underestimating the Audacity™of a man who wants to step out on his wife. my father cheated on my mother multiple times throughout their marriage (he only counts the times where he went "all the way" 🙃) but the final straw for my mother was when he was cheating on her with a woman he met and flirted with at the bar WHERE I WORKED AS A BARTENDER, while he was going around town to other bars telling people WHO WERE REGULARS AT MY BAR that he was getting a divorce. like he thought, i don't know, we stopped existing when he wasn't looking right at us, so we'd never find out? he was real shocked to be informed he really was getting a divorce, when it all came out.
Ex-buzzfeed employees were really having a moment these past few weeks. I was so caught up with the whole Ned drama, I'd completely forgotten about Watcher releasing Ghost files.
Back when the Try Guys went on tour, they made a documentary abt it that you could buy. Somewhat recently they released it in full for free on YT and watching it with knowledge of this scandal was so... bitter-sweet? Like I'm sure if I had watched it when it came out, I would've been very moved. But after the scandal, it's just... I can't believe Ned jeopardised all this. And they mention how setting up a company was a huge risk, how they had to invest a lot, and how their first office was Ned&Ariel's house...
@@anniek3866 Regardless of that being true or not, the way it was worded sounds like he’s minimizing what he really did, which is cheating. Sugar-coating it makes it more laughable. And was their relationship really “consensual” if he didn’t get his wife’s consent who was legally married to him? Lol
I saw someone say that Ned doesn’t love his wife, he loves having a wife. Because if you love someone you address them by their name. Like Keith talks about his wife a lot to, but he uses her name. Ned just likes that he can have a wife… it’s just sad to see because Ariel seems so nice
This!! I was watching try guys since buzzfeed and had only learned her name when she popped up and introduced herself! At first I thought it was cute but when Keith got married and started talking about Becky, you notice the difference and realize how … “stylized” Ned’s persona seems? Idk
Yes! He thought of her as a possession, not a person. Not to mention the "I love my wife" puts the emphasis on him and how amazing his love is. It's an incredibly selfish catchphrase the more I think about it
One thing that always stood out to me was the Valentine's gift video. The other guys made presents for Maggie and Becky, but Ned and Eugene made presents for Wes (Ned's son,) and Eugene's dogs. The difference was that Eugene talked about how Matt wasn't a Valentines type of person, which was why he was making something for the dogs instead, but Ned's reasoning was that something for Wes was basically the same as something for Ariel. A lot of people in the comments actually picked up on that, and said that Ned shouldn't just be seeing Ariel as "Wes' Mom."
What's worse is that it wasn't just 1 person being stupid. They both made the conscious decision to go out on a "date" in broad daylight. We've already established that Ned is just... But Alex going along with this. She ruined a 10+ year relationship and is now known as a cheater/mistress by the internet. She is now known as someone who had an affair with a superior so that will make it harder for her to get jobs in the future too.
Let's not also forget that Zach took the mantle of handling a lot of the legal side of all this while being disabled. He talked on the podcast how much his stress worsened his chronic pain. As someone who also is disabled with chronic pain, I applaud him because that is A LOT to handle.
Zach is honestly such a madlad. I respect him so much more after hearing about that. That must have been HELL to deal with, yet he still did it, despite the stress of it making his chronic pains worse.
I don't think that's always true. I think that's what it feels like when you're cheated on, because it hurts so much, but I just think it's a basic lack of respect and lack of discipline. That's not automatically hatred imo
@@atlaskat7980 What else would you call it though when someone has such a lack of respect for you that they’re willing to cheat? When they do that they don’t care about you, not really, people who love you or at least care about you wouldn’t willingly hurt you like that.
Him cheating is still insane cause how can you make your entire personality about how much you love your wife and then you do this shit 😭 lmfaoooo men are so scary
he did it the same way some people make their political beliefs or religion, or their aesthetic or any single aspect of their identity their entire personality and they're the most hypocritical / fake people around when it comes to that aspect
People that talk about how much they love their partner constantly in public especially social media are always a red flag for cheating. A healthy relationship doesn't need to constantly be pumped up.
There’s a video of Ariel talking about her frustration at Ned not picking up a fair share of chores, specifically the laundry. To me this says so much about a guy who goes on about how much he ‘loves his wife’ and what a ‘good husband’ he is. Really he’s just oblivious to what it takes to be a good, respectful partner.
My wife started working recently and I’ve been taking care of the kids a lot more and taking on more responsibility. And I Definitely took her for granted. Like yeah I thought I was doing a good job. Even when she was staying home I came home and cooked I cleaned I did my own laundry and ironed my own shirts. But turns out there was like so much she was doing that just went over my head. Even now that we’re striving for 50/50 and I’m trying my hardest, it’s probably more like 60/40 if I’m being generous to myself. And I don’t want that. I’m trying not to hide behind “she’s just better at it than me.” Because that’s such a cop out. I know a man who’s raised 9 kids by himself + grand kids. If he can do it why can’t I? So yeah it’s definitely a journey. I’m grateful I’m with someone who is way too patient and understanding for her own good. But I never want to take advantage of that. Even though I still do.
@@joelman1989 she's probably only better because she's been doing it more, so you'll be absolutely fine in the long run, don't dwell on it too much. Putting in the effort to fix sth after u realized there was a problem is what matters. Wishing the best to both of you.
I feel so bad for Ariel as a person who was so gallingly disrespected, a wife so hurt by someone she loves and as a mother who has to worry about how this impacts her kids. But one thing that I don’t hear talked about a lot is the fact that Ned absolutely financially screwed her, not just himself and the Try Guys. Ned made the stupid decision to tie his whole professional persona to her and then cheat (incredibly, bafflingly recklessly), but her work in content creation is so entangled in that. And now he’s out of the company, she’s almost certainly lost the podcast, their cookbook/lifestyle brand thing is dead, etc. He mortgaged their house to start this business and then he torched it because he couldn’t respect her enough to tell her he was unhappy and couldn’t keep it in his pants around an employee.
jesus christ, i never fully considered the financial angle of things for ariel. how terrible for her :( i hope she’s got a good support system around her right now
Wow they mortgage their house for this douchebag? Damn is a huge blow to their financial side. Not sure what they will do from here onwards, considering their brand was the family being happy together.
This whole thing is fucking nuts. Alex’s fiancé isn’t getting as much notice but hopefully that means he can process the end of a TEN YEAR RELATIONSHIP in peace.
if i was in a relationship with someone for nearly eleven years only for them to flush it all down the toilet for a fling with their married boss, i don't think i would have even been in the right state of mind to drop all of this info on reddit. i'd completely go into bsod mode after having a rando tell me all this info. hope he's taking all the time he needs and that he does eventually find what he's looking for. him, ariel, and the kids deserve happiness.
I think one of the biggest things that bothers me about Ned's "apology" is that he says he's sorry to the Try Guys and the fans before he even says sorry to Ariel, not even mentioning their children
He didn’t really apologize. Read it again. “Might” is in there, like it’s a question… he wasn’t taking responsibility. Any time you “might” be wrong, means you don’t actually acknowledge that you are. Just a thought.
“If a man writes a woman a sonnet, it means he loves her. If he writes her 300 sonnets, then he loves sonnets.” If a guy says he loves you, then he loves you. If he makes it his public brand that he loves you, then he loves being known as a good guy.
I remember the guys tried to have a segment on their Channel that focused on Ariel's design skills but it wasn't popular. But I think if she had her channel that focused on interior design and decor it would be pretty cute.
I think you're the first commentary I've seen that acknowledged the complexities and financial aspects of removing Ned from the Try Guys. He was a co-founder of the business. He co-owned the company. He undoubtedly had put money in the pot to help start things up. You just can't hand a person like that their walking papers very easily. You did a really good job of breaking this all down. I'd tell you that you could have a future in drama stuff, but I would miss my Saturday bad movie fix.
A lot of people are mad at them for calling this experience "traumatic" but their whole company, reputation and possibly their finance stability were all affected bc of ned's actions.
And what isn’t traumatic to one person will be to another. Kinda fed up that people are trying to dismiss their justified emotions, but unfortunately that’s the internet
@@mkg2124 especially knowing that what they did was betray the person they claimed to care about the most, and in the process really screw you over in a lot of different ways.
yeah it was really fucked up of people to act like they're some Corporate Entity just because they had a start from buzzfeed when in reality, they aren't. the way people act like they shouldn't be speaking on the situation and going all "what about the woman who got cheated on???" as if the four of them AND ariel weren't friends for almost a decade and that ariel herself didn't state that she absolutely wants privacy for her part.
People who say that clearly aren’t listening to how much this situation has hurt the remaining guys financially, emotionally, physically, and creatively. When this all went down, Keith was on a comedy tour and Eugene was also busy with something, because Zach was the only one in the office at the time and had to take the lead on starting all of the calls and process alone. Keith being on your meant that he couldn’t talk about the situation or confide in ANYONE he was travelling with-he spent so much of what should have been a fun venture stressed and wondering how this situation was going to hurt them and Lewburger’s. Zach’s whole days became dealing with this shit, meaning he sacrificed his physical health and multiple creative projects to make sure things were being handled properly. (I don’t have examples for Eugene because he hasn’t shared anything, but I assume he experienced similar struggles.) This isn’t just a “oh, my friend cheated on his spouse, what an asshole” situation, despite what some on the Internet want it to be.
"Cheating is an act of hate" AMEN to that! I am so tired of people making stupid excuses about how cheating is not that bad. The very root of cheating is betraying someones trust. If you care about someone even on the most basic level you wouldn't do something you know would crush them. It's an awful thing to put anyone through, especially when you have kids with that person so they will also end up getting hurt from the fall out.
It's not simply crushing them. It's severely messing them up. Someone crushes me, sucks, but I get over it. My ex cheating on me? I didn't even go on one-offs for YEARS.
Cheating is not an act of hate. The only thing acting on hate and love have in common is that the only reason your doing what your doing for the affect it has on the person. Cheating is an act of selfishness. You couldn't give two f how it affects the person long term. Just how it affect u in that moment. Unless it's out of revenge, cheating is not an act of hate.
There's a tweet going around that said the try guys were bastardizing the term "trauma" because "how the hell is a cheating scandal traumatizing?" and it made me so angry. How can you watch the consequences and the fall out of the scandal and not think it's traumatizing? Losing a friendship is hard enough, but losing a sense of trust in someone you thought was a friend? A sense of trust in yourself to have the right people around you? The feeling of fear and anxiety because that person's reckless and narcissistic behavior caused your staff to get DEATH THREATS and possibly lose their income? And on top of that, you're losing your bag and it's happening all publicly! How is that not traumatizing???
I stand by this phrase: "you cannot dictate what is traumatic for someone". Trauma is different one person to another, and HOW MUCH it impacts you. Three people can experience the same thing and have vastly different outcomes.
This is why the SNL sketch had me mad as hell. Like "oh know y'all are blowing it out of proportion" like I'm sorry, but if someone betrays my trust and fucks with MY money, you better know that it's gonna be a problem. Not to mention it tried to paint them in the wrong like Ned wasn't a whole ass cheater having an affair with his EMPLOYEE.
Don’t forget that Eugene comes from a divorced family. He’s talked a little bit about the struggles of growing up with that. And to see someone he considered a friend cheat on his wife, after having 2 kids, that would be infuriating. Especially if he was friends with Ariel before she married Ned. His anger is 1000% understandable
Agreed about Ned being low-key bad to Ariel. Once, on the you can sit with us podcast, she opened up about how even though she's an interior designer with her own life, Ned had been using his company as an excuse to leave her with more of the housework and childcare. Like pulling all the night shifts with the baby and etc. That was like a year ago probably but it stuck with me, because it was a confirmation for me that the whole Wife Guy Family Man Thing was probably played up quite a bit.
Because a lot of straight guys do that they have kids and are pretty present when the kids are still babies and then once they get older they just dump them on the Mom to deal with
Literally the only Try Guys related content I've ever consumed was a part of that one episode of that podcast. I don't remember how I ended up there, but as soon as I started seeing tweets about how one of the Try Guys cheated, my first thought was "I bet it's the one who doesn't clean." Because, to me, leaving the entire physical and mental burden of maintaining a household to your partner smacks of the same kind of disregard for their well-being as cheating, just in a way that's more humdrum and normalized. Women are socialized to see a lot of behaviors as "just dumb guy stuff lol" instead of subtle indicators that someone doesn't actually care or think about your needs and comfort.
@@wetsockz3001 sadly, I think this was when their second baby was quite young! I remember Ariel mentioning Ned was expecting her to do a lot of his care and how overwhelming it was for her. It sounds like Ned in general just doesn't consider her energy or time to be as important as his own.
When talking about how cheating needs to be done with some form of hate it reminds me of that clip of Ned speaking about his wife's cleaning. She throws out his old leftovers that were sitting in the fridge for DAYS and he said it like she was so annoying for that and was clearly ticked off by it. When the wife heard and responded in a later podcast she said she was hurt by it. She thought she was cleaning and looking after their home, but for him to disregard her efforts and label her annoying in front of thousands clearly hurt her. It showed a bit of insight to the way he sees his wife and the slight petty resentment he holds. OH and the fact he credited someone else for keeping the house clean, AND said having kids "ruins you and any chance of romantic interest"
Especially because in context that happened when all the other guys were praising their partners and all the work they do… and then Ned just takes the chance to complain
Oof, that sounds like the kind of thing my ex would say and try and pass off as ‘just a joke’ [read: If I say I’m just kidding that means you don’t get to feel upset about it, even though that was obviously the only reason I said it in the first place]. Reeks of insecurity and resentment fr.
Somehow I think that one other reason he cheated is probably because he felt inadequate. It’s no secret that everyone likes Ariel more than him. He probably wanted someone who was dependent on him in some way. Ariel is a strong independent woman with a bigger more likable personality and that hurt his fragile ego. This no way excuses his cheating, but it’s something I’ve thought about ever since I heard the news.
@@casieg.7040 He was the least popular and interesting TG and people like his wife more. This was definitely about his ego and sense of entitlement and yeah, he probably doesn't like/secretly hates his wife. He even probably resented her BECAUSE his marriage/kids was all he felt made him interesting, despite the fact that HE was the one that wouldn't shut up about it! 💀
I find it crazy how some people are saying the try guys aren’t allowed to be traumatized by the situation because they aren’t the fiancé or wife. Like? What? Is romantic relationships more important than platonic relationships?
These people are talking like people, who never went through watching 2 people you love going through a breakup: I was upset, when my uncle (blood relation) cheated on his wife (whom I adored more. she was the sweetest and had been in my life since I was a toddler!). I was also heartbroken, when 2 of my college friends broke up. These situations are messy, painful and change the dynamics of the whole group. Awful.
On the podcast they said they were on talks with lawyers for HOURS on the DAILY! That alone is insanely stressful, trying to figure out the legal ramifications of something you didn't even do. Something that could have ended your career by association. Ending almost a decade long friendship because of what needed to be done. Having a whole company upended because multiple employees, in your super small company, are feeling hurt. It's a lot, and we don't even know the full story.
The worst breakup I ever had was with a friend. And I’ve had some bad romantic breakups. But being ghosted by a best friend hurt on a whole other level, you just do not see that coming.
Imagine destroying decade long friendships, your boss placement at the company you 1/4 own, your wife and sons' trust, your public and private reputation, and your entire social media career for the irrelevant, less interesting food baby who is also your engaged employee. The level of STUPIDITY 🙄
@@eliontheinternet3298 Well, Alex IS a piece of shit. She's a cheat too and she KNEW Ariel too. She pretended to be all nice to Ariel, but behind her back, she was screwing her husband! I also feel really bad for her fiance too, who she cheated on. Ned and Alex are both terrible people. If someone can cheat, they have no consideration for others.
Tbh i hate the some of yall phrase this, it rubs me the wrong way in ways that would too long to explain. But I think at the end of the day cheaters will always cheat. Doesn’t matter with who, doesn’t matter how “amazing and beautiful” their partner is. Cheaters are narcissistic, selfish, and only care about themselves. So Ned cheated cause he is all those things and needs serious therapy, not “for a boring employee who was part of Food Babie”.
The last few minutes of your video hit hard. My dad cheated on my mom when I was little. My "family" ended when he cheated. And the questions you asked at the end are the questions that plagued my childhood well into my teens. I told myself that clearly we meant nothing to him if we meant less than the thrill of cheating. Like, our entire family, who we were, me as his child, it was all worth the gamble. I was three when my dad cheated, and it was everyone's conversation my entire childhood. Ned's kids WILL know, his kids will question their worth for a very very long time. F this man!
I feel you, I was also 3 when my parents got divorced because my dad had been cheating. Not only all of what you said but also being biologically related to your parents when this happens can cause huge existential crisis for a child. Being told "Oh you're just like your father/you look just like your father." Goes from being a sweet message to being something you hate yourself for because of what HE did not you. My parents divorcing was absolutely for the best but they still said awful things about each other that hurt me so deeply being in the middle of. To them they were talking about their ex but to me they're talking about my mom or my dad that I can't help but share similarities with. Existential crisis and self hate abound! The stuff you mentioned also contributing to that! I'm 23 now and it STILL messes me up. To remember how much of my childhood was ruined because my dad just truly didn't care. It's so fucked up and the added fact this is a big public viral thing is an added factor that I thankfully can't relate to, I can't even begin to understand how it'll effect the kids mentally, just that it'll stay with them
Thank you for sharing this, and I'm sorry you had to experience this. I hope Ariel sees this and doesn't stay with Ned "for the kids" and could easily grow to resent her as well
@@EdenGlows I am so sorry that your parents took their anger with each other out around you. My ex cheated on me repeatedly, I cannot stand him but I have and will never bad mouth him in front of our son cause at the end of the day, that is his father and I know I would only be hurting my son. As much as I detest my ex, I also love my son more than anyone else, he is his own wonderfully little person, he is amazing and smart and kind and empathetic. You are these things too! He is a wonderfully, unique individual who is not a carbon copy of me or his father. This is true of you too, you are wonderful and kind and your OWN person! You get to choose who you are and who you want to be, bollocks to everyone else, they don't get to dictate who you are. I don't know you but I hope you are able to put other people's judgements and opinions to the side and stick a middle finger to them all and go live your best life Hugs for you, you got this ❤️
@@theblackkittie13 Thank you so much for your endlessly kind comment! Q_Q I really appreciate it and thank you for being such a kind parent as well. I always understood my moms anger towards my dad because of course it was justified! Though it still hurt, especially because she did tell me how much I am like him before too. One time I did break down in front of my mom about it a long time ago and we had a talk and she had stopped bad mouthing him and telling me I’m like him at least and Im not around my dad much anymore for other reasons. So Im doing fine in this regard! But even still looking back it will always stay with you and hurt even when you’re better. Im so sorry you had to go through that because I can’t imagine the pain that causes someone directly but you seem to handle yourself with much grace! Thank you again and I hope you and your son have amazing lives!! Your son is lucky to have you :-) Hugs back 💙
I hope Ariel leaves him because my mom decided to stay in a toxic/abusive relationship with my father for more than 20 years and I've seen firsthand how incompatible spouses affect the children and the person being cheated on mental wellbeing. I like how Kennie described cheating as an act of hate because it honestly is. The first time I found out my dad was cheating was when I was 11 and the whole time I didn't think it was true then I found out again when I was 20 and both times I told my mother who disregarded it. I found out that my dad was basically cheating on my mom throughout their entire relationship he doesn't do shit to help her pay the bills. Doesn't want to get a second job, nothing he even had the audacity to say to her that he didnt care if they lost the house because my mom was working so hard to pay off the mortgage and basically buy everything for the house that she wanted to take a few months off work to relax. How evil can you be??? He even uses her card to buy groceries and put gas in the cars. He says he doesn't have money when I literally saw that he had a brand new watch. She would always say she's staying in the relationship because of us but I honestly dont feel that is true because she's so much better than him. I think she is just scared to be alone. But good news is is that they're FINALLY splitting for good......hopefully she goes through with it ...... Bottom line is, Ariel needs to leave for the sake of her kids mental health and her own because I dont think you can "work this out" especially since he was so nonchalant about it
can't believe this dude was so insecure, he not only blew up an 11 year relationship AND possibly his own 10 year marriage that resulted in 2 children under the age of 5, he also threw the past 8 years him and the rest of the guys spent building this brand away all to hook up with his employee for nearly a year. truly the definition of "fumbled the bag".
Ned really hated Ariel and his children then. It also shows that he is untrustworthy, unreliable, deceptive, fiscally and morally irresponsible in his life as well as business. I say it was very right that the remaining Try Guys were furious and fired him.
He definitely has this 1950s, 2 kids, white-picket fence vibe, whether he wanted it or not. Maybe he felt like he had to have the perfect family, but he definitely didn’t WANT it.
I think he hated the fact that he made his wife and kids into his brand and had nothing else to bring to the table. Being against the other three Try Guys who are seem like talented powerhouses with side businesses while your main thing is just family (which is valuable in itself but not a "sexy" or dynamic brand) had to sting. A reckless action like this was more than likely the manifestation of someone who was looking for a way out of the house of cards they built without having to vocalize their feelings. Ned could've just pitched a side show where he tried new things while going through a "mid-life" crisis to reinvent himself and undid his schtick instead of imploding his life. But, here we are.
@@ToDoListChecklist that’s the weird part, if you’re right, he could have EASILY done this. And even come clean and said “yall im struggling with my identity as a content creator, i feel like im in a box so bear with me as i find a new groove and experiment” and I’m sure the audience would have been receptive
My grandma used to say “ if you’re going to do something bad at least do it right!” Ned cheating on his wife who he “loves” is sick but Alex sitting there listening to Ariel talk about her insecurities, hyping her up just to turn around and f***k her husband is VILE!
I don't like this take, considering we actually know nothing about her situation. Like, obviously I have some negative feelings towards her for her actions but since he WAS in a position of power above her, it could've been less straightforward than that. So I think we can privately hate her but on a public level we should be prosecuting just Ned
The part where you talked about Ned disregard of Ariel, even in the smallest act, reminds me of this one trypod video i think where all the other try guys expressed their appreciation towards their partner and then there's Ned whose whole internet personality is Mr. Wife Guy, instead of appreciating Ariel for taking care of the household chores and kids and be there for him through ups and down, he rant about her throwing out his LEFTOVERS the whole fricking time. Even Ariel felt unappreciated, she talked about it in her podcast, she keeps waiting for Ned to express his appreciation but she got zonk, it's very heartbreaking to watch.
maybe that was the sign - he doesn't care shits about her, already not thinking about her to appreciate anything that she'd done for him ie supporting him leaving buzzfeed, designing their office, raising their beautiful children???? ungrateful git he is😡
Yes, I saw that clip! At that point, idk how Ned even had fans, that would have been a hella big red flag at least for how he actually treats that sweet woman.
@@chelscara I was his fan. He was my favorite try guy mainly because of his FAKE persona being the 'family guy' but I don't watch their podcasts just cause I don't have that much time and I'm not interested as much, so I wasn't aware of that episode. This whole scandal just opened my eyes on who he really is and I'm really disgusted, I even feel so stupid for believing his 'show'.
“Cheating is the act of someone who hates you. No one can disregard your emotional well-being, physical well-being, sexual health, peace of mind, your ability to trust people, and flat out embarrass you on this kind of level…if they love you in any way that matters.” To paraphrase
i disagree that cheaters hate their partner..! most people cheat because of their own insecurities or stuff like that.. obviously the consequenses really are way above that and feel humiliating and heartbreaking. but people dont usually cheat bc they hate their partner..
@@SebiHemke You’re allowed to have that opinion. However, I think the original concept is you can’t hurt/humiliate/betray someone and claim to love them. Whether you actively hate them, casually hate them, or just don’t care about them…you don’t love them and that’s the point.
I saw the SNL sketch the other day and I felt like it illustrated how people who don't ever watch the Try Guys videos underappreciate all the layers of fuck-up. You perfectly showed in this video on how many levels this scandal has affected a whole bunch of people! He managed to fuck up his relationship with his wife, his family and his friends, endangering their business, finances and the livelihood of their employees, humiliating his wife, probably her losing involvement with the business as well, and then there's Alex's end where her fiancé who she's been with for a decade has also been cheated on and she has also impacted people in her life negatively. This is shit has layers like a crêpe cake.
fr like when it first came out i was one of those people that was like "yeah he did something really shitty but why do we care so much about this guy's personal life??" I started watching more of their videos last week and this whole thing was just a lot more fucked up in a lot more levels than i would've thought.
I do feel so bad for Zach, Eugene and Keith and all of the Try Guys employees but my heart really breaks for Ariel (Ned's wife). I recently saw a TMZ video of paparazzi filming her and their kids outside their house, yelling questions to her about their relationship, and she just looked so uncomfortable and anxious/afraid. It was awful to see...... I know it will take time, but I just hope she and her sons are happy. That is all.
I have zero tolerance for cheating and you hit on exactly why: someone who does that doesn't care enough about you, and depending on the circumstances is showing they're capable of other bad things
Cheating once usually means cheating a lot more later. If they have that attitude and capability, it could always happen again. My ex tried to accuse me before, but he weirdly counted when I hit on a guy (who turned me down because I was drunk probably) but we were broken up, so I don't count that. I would never actually cheat.
And he’s right to because he lost a lot but he’s still a rich man can rebrand about a marriage that healed from cheating and live a nice life. It’s so upsetting how he probably won’t have true consequences which is why he is so flippant.
I saw a comment that said something like “them handling this so carefully to avoid being sued tells me Ned would actually sue them if he could” and honestly… I can see it
So can Alex. She probably would have more grounds for it than Ned, which is probably why she has not been brought up directly by them. I can see the bloodthirsty lawyers lining up to sue on the grounds of Ned being her boss and if the remaining guys fire her for the relationship without being extra careful about it (especially in California) there can be a lot of damage. Not to show my theater nerd card, but the legally blonde musical’s “Blood in the Water” comes to mind.
@@ESPHMacD ned would have big grounds too if they mess up the seperation and buy out and such he is 25% owner. Alex may be more likely to win but if ned won it'd be worse for them. Also court just sucks anyways its years of high bills
Ned could sue for defamation and Alex could sue for wrongful termination on the grounds of the power dynamic issue between her and Ned. She could probably argue that he coerced her into a relationship because he was essentially her boss. So I think the Try Guys don’t want to risk getting sued by either because they’ve already lost hella money paying for PR, an internal HR review and lost sponsorships as a result of this debacle.
It’s so strange and sad for Ariel and her kids. But seriously one decision nearly crashed the entire business. When people think of the Try Guys now, they may think of this … brand ruined!
I feel like it isn’t one decision, it was multiple because if it was just one time then that’s whatever but they were seen out Multiple times, that is what gets me you fucked up MULTIPLE times
Kennie said FINE WILL YALL SHUT UP NOW??? 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the tea bestie **Edit: Kennie said nearly every single thing I had been thinking and feeling about this fiasco
Ned being the least favorite try guy 10000% influenced his decisions, I fear. Like he's just one of those people who do not have a personality, and kind of just exist. He's not terrible to hang out with, and he has a sense of humor but he is definitely the npc of the party. I think he definitely knew that and probably didnt think that The Try Guys would ever become something when he participated in those Buzzfeed videos. I think they grew so fast and were unprepared for how likable they were perceived to be and he didn't have anything else but the fact that he was the first one married. To me, honestly, it's like he almost used that over the other guys to obviously make up for his own personal insecurities. Eugene is taller, has better hair, and is just seemingly good at every task handed to him? "Well, I'm married. You're not." Keith is the funniest and quick witted one, with a deeper more sultry voice? "Well, I'm married. You're not." Zach is the quirky, sassy one who brings the most heart? "Well, I'm married. You're not." It's like he used his marriage to compensate for his lack of individuality and used it as a trophy that he was the first and only, for a while, to have acquired. I think that with Eugene coming out and bringing in a lot of new subs and views, and with Keith have being married for a few years now, Zach and Eugene both getting very close to settling down and getting married soon, mixed with the knowledge that he is probably the last ranked in relatability and likeability, Ariel now having her time taken up by business and especially the two kids, just snapped and saw a way to feel desired again. Even now, I feel like he's relishing in the fact that a lot of people are talking about him for the first time and know his name, even if it's in a negative light. I think feeling desired by Alex, him depraved for attention, made him so reckless and nonchalant. Not to mention the power that comes along with the obvious bank they make. He probably was living on cloud nine, thin ki ing rhat he would get away with it, the fear of getting caught adding to make the affaur more enticing. Mix all of that together, and you have a desperate and greedy man ready to do anything to still feel needed and attractive.
Someone mentioned how you rarely hear Ned say "Ariel". He always says "my wife". A sign of a cheater is when they never call their partner by name because they're scared they'll call the wrong person. I thought that was pretty interesting since my ex did the same kind of things Ned did--cheated, never called my name, made me his personality. This scandal, specifically the comment relating to the scandal, really took me back.
I never picked up on that! I’m aware of that kind of distancing language in the context of forensics- ie. If a suspect says ‘the girl’, or ‘that girl’ instead of calling a victim by name that’s a dead giveaway. It’s a way of psychologically and emotionally distancing yourself from seeing another person as a human being- and describing them like you would an object.
My problem with the "consensual workplace relationship" bit is that Ned CANNOT be 100% certain that it was entirely consensual. He was her BOSS, and the unequal power dynamic may have affected her decision-making process. Like Kennie said, he signed her paychecks. He had some say on how much exposure she gets on the channel and what kind of work she gets. One could say that there is NO way the relationship was consensual.
I was admittedly surprised, but my partner wasn't when I told him. He said Ned always seemed like he was trying too hard to push the story that he had the perfect life, perfect wife, perfect kids, etc. He said Ned, of the four, seemed like the one most likely to cheat. Another commenter pointed it out on another video, but Eugene also lived through his parents' messy divorce, and really likes Ned's kids, so I'm sure he was also angry for them as someone who's been through that.
26:53 I misspoke here. I meant “any future videos”. They wouldn’t be able to show him in future videos
Are u going to do Gabriel's rapture part 3? passionflix 😃
@@spideronawhiteflag Oh he has a HUGE pay out coming his way
This has me thinking what if “getting caught” was the plan the whole time?
What if he wanted to get caught so they WOULD pay him and he could go about his life no longer tied to the “I love my wife and kids” label anymore??
What if Alex wanted the same?
Bc to me that’s the only “reason” to be in public, like they WANTED to get caught.
Eugene(Ariel’s best friend according to ppl) doesn’t talk bc he knows once he starts he would def get sued😅
I know you said you're not going to cover drama again but let's say...
Hypothetically speaking...
Eugene and Becky start drunk tweeting and spilling tea, would you?
Ned is not just a cheater, he's a malignant narcissist...similar to Trump, Cosby, and others. He's beyond help (narcissist rarely respond to therapy)...Ariel needs to leave him, and work for the Try Guys as a creator (plus take half of his settlement).
Also for Eugene his mother was cheated on so you know how much this must absolutely make him LIVID
Was she?
how do you know she got cheated on
@@sarahj4743 hes probably talked about it? 💀
@@sarahj4743 He's talked about it in the past...
@@voidbreather7405 only divorce ive never heard him talk about his mom getting cheated on
Ariel isn't only a cast member, but also the interior designer for their office and was even featured in Architectural Digest for both her home and the try guys office renovations. She supported ned when they left buzzfeed even though they were expecting their first child and losing the insurance from the company and ned still had the audacity to cheat on her
This! When they started the company Ariel was very very pregnant and the fact that she supported Ned leaving a stable job (and health care!) so that he can pursue his dreams. Ugh. She was with him when he was starting and struggling and now that he's successful he has the audacity to cheat on her.
Also his knees surgeries, physical therapy, overcoming addiction. He's trash.
It’s always the wife guys
Ned is selfish and irresponsible
Isn't the Try Guys office also Ned/Ariel's former house?
"lets get on to the debauchery" has never meant more LMAO
I WANT KENNIE MERCH THAT SAYS THIS NGL 😇 like a handkerchief or a crop top or a hat♑️
PLSS this is so true !
True and now I’m hearing that his wife and him did marriage classes. 😂 I’m cackling
@@DD-po2hh Rachel Hollis and her now ex husband had a marriage podcast and would give advice at her RISE conferences. Lol
Something that has been weighing heavy on my mind since this news broke was thinking back to when they first started the company. Their first office space was literally Ned and Ariel's old house. He was an integral part of getting things going in the beginning, he obviously cared a lot about this. To go from starting the company with your friends and your wife and newborn son to just being willing to throw it all away by cheating in public is so crazy to me. That man needs therapy.
Yes I remember that. From that time on I always thought Ned cared about keeping the try guys together. This is a super 180 on his actions
@@sakuranovaryan9261 I think it's important to remember that that feelings do change over time. So I do think at the start he did genuinely care about the Try Guys and keeping things together. Just like I think he genuinely did love his wife. But something changed along the way, and unfortunately instead of handling it dozen other ways, he choose an extremely damaging route.
He did admit it himself in a video cheating people has big issues. Seems like his mid life crises came early, he has always beena fratboy at heart. Now he felt restricted he wants to go play around.
Also one of the first videos they made after leaving buzzfeed was Ned simulating the entire labor process Ariel went through and making a lot of content about his baby and like "I'm a family man now". I never support people making content off their kids anyway but if you do, at least be smart enough to be able to maintain that image over time.
pure hubris
Apparently in CA, other employees can also sue if they think Alex got preferential treatment because Ned dated Alex. Wild stuff. Ned is beyond the worst.
Yeah, it happened at my old job once here in CA. Caused a commotion cuz someone stole thousands of dollars in bonuses other people earned because they were sleeping with the boss. It's messed up...
Damn I didn’t even think of that aspect. I would have to hire a hitman if I was Ariel, or one of the Try Guys 🤦🏾♀️
Makes sense tbh but damn all the issues that come with it
I was thinking about the lawyer part too. It can be USD 200-400 per lawyer per hour. I wont be surprised if the bill would be a couple hundred thousand. Just fees alone. Not even counting merch, contract breaking, etc
Not just CA. So, before anyone thinks this stunt is ok in other places, I want to dispel anyone of that notion. I don’t live in CA and if I did this I would get escorted out. And before anyone screams, it penalizes men - I am a woman. I have seen a woman get canned for getting friendly at a holiday party with a subordinate. Companies don’t want this mess. You want to date a colleague? It better be in another department and it needs to be registered with HR or good bye.
“He saw our font and copied it!” The pettiness! 😂🤣😭😭
I thought it was some sort of metaphor but he literally did--- 😭😭
I wouldn't call it pettiness, haha. In the podcast, the question was whether the remaining Try Guys and Ned coodinated responses, which is influenced by the fact the responses looked similar in appearance. As Keith points out, it would benefit Ned if people assumed the responses were coodinated together.
i’m so glad you covered this cause i’ve seen too many people say “he only cheated, why is he getting fired and cancelled, everyone makes mistakes” like…. there’s LAYERS
Lmao “mistakes”
This wasn't a mistake. Mistakes are accidental. Ned did this on purpose.
Even if there is layers, cheating in itself is just vile
@@t.r.s.5129 SO DID ALEX.
@@isabellamccann7395 we not talking about alex
One thing I want to add is that Ariel supported Ned for years in whatever he was doing. He left Buzzfeed when she was pregnant and they lost their health insurance and she still went for it. She stayed home for the kids, she gave up her own career for a good few years so Ned could focus on growing the TryGuys brand and channel. She was pulled into being a part of the brand because of him, first because he would not shut up about her and then as an active part of the channel. This was her livelihood as well and whatever she decides to do, I am sure she won't be returning to the podcasts or the video segments she was a part of. I am guessing they will stop selling their cook book soon. She was able to start working as an interior designer again through Ned but now, if she ever decides to work in the field again, when people search up her name they will find this scandal and the two things she has designed that she is most known for: the TryGuys office and the house she lives(ed?) in with Ned. All tied up with her cheating husband. He completely ruined everything for her when she sacrificed everything for him.
why would a company not hire her because she was cheated on? Makes no sense...
@@ForeverFashionGirl21 some probably wouldn't want to have people attached to drama working with them (not every company obviously just depending on which one) and even when it wouldn't deter her it would be embarrassing to have people ask about it when coming to look for potential job opportunities
Real Gone Girl Amy Dunne vibes
Don forget his prescription drug abuse that she stood by him through and he talked aout how great she was
Honestly, I feel really bad for Ariel and Alex’s ex-fiancé. How can you make your whole personality about your wife and then just slap her in the face by cheating (openly!) with an employee! Really it’s sooo messy. I would hope she would leave him, but by the look of it, she won’t, which makes me so sad. She deserves so much better than him. Also, the office must be hella awkward if Alex is still working at the office 👀
It's especially awful for Alex's Fiancé because he knew she was cheating and gave her a second chance and she still fucked it up.
She still has young kids, his source of income is cut, one of her sources of income is cut. They probably have a house and cars and investments that will be hard to pay for now but can't back out of. They probably have joint income in a lot of projects and opportunities introduced by way o the try guys and she'd have to pay a shit load of money to financially divorce herself from him. She's kinda stuck with him. Literally.
@@nibi7099 I mean her part of the income isn't cut, unless she decides not to come back, which I wouldn't blame her for doing so.
@@nibi7099 they both come from rich family tho so I hope that makes the divorce less hard if thats what ariel wants
I'm hoping that her takin Ned out of all her social media bios shows that maybe she'll leave him. But we'll see, I just hope she gets the love she deserves (which currently is not Ned)
I didn't realize that Alex was basically pretending to be Ariel's friend and then screwed her husband behind her back, imagine spending so much time with someone you thought was your friend, only for them to betray you with your husband.
There’s people that do not care. I knew a girl who was hooking up with her manager and befriended the guys wife on purpose to find out information about them. Needless to say I cut that girl out. Someone who’s capable of doing that needs to stay away from me. 😭
the cheating was so reckless that i almost believed it was a prank 😭 like i thought we'd be seeing a "try guys tries to prank the internet" video later on or something
I 100% think he hated being the “my wife” guy. He didn’t have anything interesting he could use as a personality online so he used his family and ended up feeling trapped. I’m sure he didn’t care that he cheated in public and he probably wanted to get caught
Yup seems like he recklessly want out
I felt that way too. As a fan, I could tell he was trying to do different bits, too, and they weren't really working.
@@minaryeon9259 right instead of being an adult & telling his partner he's not happy lol he's such a clown
I think there is a video where he states that he wants to stem away from the 'Wife Guy' so he tried to have a rivalry with Eugene. Idk what video it is but it's where they mud wrestle.
This explanation makes the most sense to me 🤔
Also... what is Alex getting out of this? Blowing up her relationship, losing her job, ruining her reputation... FOR NED? Like if it was Eugene I'd get it, but NED?
it’s not funny but it is omg😂😭😭
like fr why ned no offense?????
Except Eugene would never become involved with someone who works under him.
@@Sentientmatter8 that is true tho lol
@@Sentientmatter8 which in a backwards sort of way would make him much more attractive as well. Oh well. Shit is complicated
I feel like it was arrogance mixed with the self loathing. Like “no one’s going to recognize me” mixed with “what are they gonna do? Fire me?”
Considering he was stopped by a fan for a photo on the same day, I think it was more of the latter. If he was concerned about getting caught, being recognized for a photo should have made him (and maybe Alex too) consider that they should be more discreet just in case.
I realized something: I just learned his wife’s name is Ariel since she was always referred to as WIFE so it doesn’t surprise me one bit he cheated so publicly. He doesn’t love Ariel, he loves the idea she represents as his wife so he did not care at all if he was caught. Poor poor woman, he is the epitome of trash
I have a close family member that has cheated on their wife multiple times and they both constantly post about how much they love eachother and how great they both are. Doing stuff like wishing eachother a happy anniversary online when you live in the same house and could just go talk to them is a red flag to me now.
I've always found social media shoutouts to be odd. If we live in the same house, I can just walk over to you and tell you how much I care about you. The internet doesn't need to see my soliloquy. It feels like a performance.
@@saraha.3057 bruh exactly why do people even do that
@@kittmeow7192 My mom always force me to do this on her birthdays or mother's days, even when I made it clear I didn't want to because it felt weird and invasive, like we're literally in the same house mom... you just wanna boast right?
@@Arguing.With.Idiots. honestly thats just not right your mom should understand that your not comfortable with something like that
Eugene was giving “YOU CANT SIT WITH US!!” And I was living for it 🤩
Can we just take a second to appreciate Kennie's hair this video. GORGEOUS!!
Slayage fr ❤
Love the unit.
Its giving sanaa Lathan
And that highlight.
I wish she told us where she gets these beautiful units
The try guys editing team is absolutely amazing I am blown away with how much they were able to edit him out. I really hope that Ariel, her kids, Will, and they guys are able to heal and get all the comfort they need.
I appreciate you saying her name and showing her face...like she's not innocent here. They were out in PUBLIC making out and shit as public figures and some creators are protecting her name like it makes 0 sense.
the thing that still gets me about this is that when you look at them side by side she was SO out of his league. he should be licking the floor she walks in, specially after she had two of his kids and stayed through the hardships of them founding the try guys as a separate company
edit: also Eugene's reaction on their video was the one that broke my heart the most. he's witnessed a messy divorce with his parents (it's one of the reasons on why he's my favorite, i relate to him so much) and to have one of his best friends do this? i would be pissed too
That's the thing
He knows in his heart that ariel is WAY out of his league so he looked to the next cheaper and easier option which is Alex and cheating so he could feel fulfilled and like a man
Screw him honestly
Usually what happens with cheaters, I find. The Other Person is usually a downgrade.
I would love to see her flaunt a new relationship in Ned's face, now with that poisonous barnacle gone she can get someone actually worthy of her, though I'm she'll need a long time to heal.
That description of Zach was the most ACCURATE description anyone could ever give. Like that beyond summed him up.
I've never put much stock in astrology but as a Capricorn I felt very called out by Kennie's (correct) assertion that the worst parts to a Capricorn are messing with the $$$ and "if you're going to cheat, at least don't cheat stupidly and make me have to clean up your mess" 1000% accurate. As for why he did it that way- selfishness and cowardice are my guess. Guys like Ned love the positive attention that comes from being "the family man" and "the devoted husband" (Kennie finds it boring but I'm sure some insecure guys starting a family probably looked up to Ned as a role model for how to be a good husband/father and women who felt unappreciated by their own husbands probably loved Ned's seeming devotion- and relayed that to him) but hate the reality of the actual work it takes to make a marriage & family work. The wife starts being a "nag", the kids are loud & annoying, your sex life sucks, work's gotten monotonous, etc. In turn, the idea of having a fiery, new passion-based relationship with a woman who thinks you're great because she's never had to unclog the toilet after you defiled it starts looking better and better. And his selfishness, his "I deserve to be happy no matter what this might do to my family" ego lets him justify the choice to cheat.
The public nature of the cheating I think goes hand-in-hand with the cowardice of Ned not being able to just leave his wife (having mistaken the honeymoon-phase nature of his affair relationship as being "oh, the reason I was unhappy in my marriage is because I made a mistake and married the wrong woman, this new woman is really who my soulmate is and I'm going to leave my wife, marry her, and surely live happily ever after this time") He lacks the spine to just end his marriage so he cheats publicly to force his wife's/his own hand if he's caught. Which of course he immediately backs down from when actually caught, hence his whole "I'm re-focusing on my family" nonsense.
This is very well said, and I 100% agree.... It's too bad he couldn't just 'Man up' - pardon the phrase - and just get a fvcking divorce if he hated his wife that much. smdh
The look on Eugene's face in that response video almost set my hair on fire.
i was looking at the bridesmaids video yesterday and it was so uncomfortable watching alex and ned interacting after knowing the truth :( my heart goes out to their respective spouses/families
Let's goooo can't wait to see what the queen has to say
@Emotional Damage fff FF
I'm 70% sure that Ned _wanted_ to get caught.
I've been avoiding this situation for the longest time because... I kinda don't care - I have no attachment to the Try Guys, so I felt no need to look into it. With Kennie covering it? Now I'm invested. After the hilariously dry fileting of the Don't Worry Darling "drama," I'm now thoroughly invested in hearing about what this whole dumpsterfire entails.
My exact thoughts lmao i could listen to kennie for days honestly about the most random shit
Very late to this, but every time I see Eugene's face in the announcement video, I think of one thing in particular, and that's the Valentine's Day video. In the video, when asked about what he likes the most about Ned, Eugene genuinely and sincerely compliments Ned for having good, family-centered values, and expresses how important he thinks that is for people to see; for people to believe that love is real and marriage is still sacred for some people. And this is coming from Eugene, someone who is pretty openly cynical about love and marriage and all that stuff from being a child of divorce. And then, Ned just goes and shatters the entire Try Guy family. To me, I read his face as absolute hatred, but not just a hatred for destroying all the work they'd done or even for destroying his family, but for making Eugene believe or subscribe to the fact that genuine true love and the sanctity of marriage were real- or at least that they were real and important to Ned. Hell, even fans expressed this feeling of "if someone as obsessed with his family as Ned could do this, then how can I even believe in love anymore?" I don't know if this is how he felt on any level, and I get I'm probably psychoanalyzing this a bit too much, but I just think it's important to acknowledge the unique ways this kind of betrayal effects EVERYONE around you, not just the partner you cheated on.
Eugene was waiting to catch Ned in a blind alley and to be honest I’d support that
literally the best person who could have made a video about this scandal. I'm very excited I've been practically beggin in the last video.
No lie, even back in the buzzfeed days when I watched, I remember ned being "the married guy". That was what set him apart back then, and I'm just now remembering since it's been so long. I honestly hope she still prospers because he was honestly riding on her the whoolleee time. I hope her and the kids are well.
You’re so right about the nerve of him not even hiding it. not only that he was in public cheating…he took a picture with a fan…while cheating?? At a concert? What in the ham sandwich.
What in the ham sandwich☠️ I’m stealing that if you don’t mind
My dad still refuses to sincerely apologize to all of us for his cheating.
Alex is as much to blame as Ned is. Ned is married, but Alex was engaged. Both had loyalties to their partners to honour. Regardless of who initiated the relationship with the other, both chose to engage in a romantic, intimate relationship for over a year, with no regard for their families, their friends/coworkers, themselves. Had Ned initiated, Alex could've quit, reported it to HR, she has many avenues to avoid a relationship with him, especially with how close his wife is to the company. If Alex initiated, Ned could've also reported it to HR, told the rest of the team, gave a strong warning to her on her inappropriate behaviour etc. There is no excuse for either of them. Also, people forget Alex's ex- fiancé. They were caught, confronted by the fiancé and they kept going until there was no more hiding it. It's disgraceful and embarrassing. I do hope that Alex's ex (i don't know his name) is doing much better away from her and Ned, and that Ariel is able to come to a conclusion that works for her and those beautiful babies. Whether she stays with Ned or not, whatever benefits the children and allows her to have peace of mind as much as she can is best. God bless them all
Apparently, Ned was the head of the HR department, which makes the situation even more complicated. I'm not defending Alex in this situation, but reporting to HR doesn't seem to have been an option if she wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with him.
I haven't watched the TryGuys since their Buzzfeed days but I gotta say that I'm very impressed with how Eugene, Keith and Zach handled this with so much integrity. This is probably the most professional handling of a scandal that I've seen tbh, especially considering how messed up it is
This entire debaucle made me so pissed because of how just one stupid decision ruined SO MANY PEOPLE, most of which had ZERO involvement with the shit show yet the people who caused it hardly got the same intensity of consequence. It just makes me so mad
Apparently, ned was the wealthiest of the try guys since he invested the most into the company. Also learned that he was hired as a manager for buzzfeed, not as a comedian or entertainer like the other 3 were, and that he was a pain to work with and that it was his idea for them to leave buzzfeed and start their own company. I remember his story about him quitting med school to go into the entertainment business because he lost interest and wanted to pursue a new path, but now I think there are some details in that story that he left out. I think he failed med school and thought going into entertainment would be so easy for him. He was pissed that Buzzfeed didn't find him entertaining and decided to profit off his wife once he discovered how much people like him mentioning her. Eventually, Buzzfeed received so many complaints about him from so many women that they threaten to fire him, so he convinced the other Try Guys to leave the company for "creative freedom" and create their own company (and that he would handle all of the managerial and hr and business stuff due to his experience as a manager and how much money he has compared to them) so he can profit off their talent and charisma. [The concept of Try Guys was Zach's idea but it was probably Ned's idea to leave Buzzfeed. And for the ladies in STEM, you know exactly what type(s) of guy I am talking when I mention that Ned was in STEM. Yeah, that's right. Ned was a cis straight guy in STEM and declared himself as a science guy.]
I also don't think this was the first time Ned cheated on Ariel and that he has been cheating on her for a long time. Ariel was definitely hurt, but she didn't seem shocked that he was caught cheating. She acted like a wife frustrated with her husband's constant cheating but still has been putting up with it for so many years. This also explains why Ariel felt insecure about being older than Ned (even though she was only 1 year older than him).
A lot of female former Buzzfeed employees got criticized for criticizing Ned, while their male counterparts got praised for do so. A lot of the female Try Guys employees got harassed for being "complicit" or accused of having an affair with Ned while the male employees didn't get that much harassment. YB especially got so much harassment and falsely accused of having an affair with Ned just because she is a non-mixed Asian woman (even after it was confirmed that Ned was having an affair with biracial, half-white, racially ambigious Alex and even after YB implied multiple times that she is no longer friends with Ned and Alex).
There was also no HR at Try Guys, so not only was Ned handling all of the business, financial, and managerial stuff but he was also the HR rep for the company as well.
10/10 for the stem guy reference
@Yvannna FloryGuerra yep, seconded, he worked as a chemist (not pharmaceutical kind) for a bit, and in the cocktail video he measures stuff like a chemist. Source; am chemist.
Your comment isn't...inaccurate but there's a lot of assumptions in there.
A)turns out a lot of (former) Buzzfeed employees didn't even know Ned and even some who did were clearly just cloud chasing
B) the guys worked so closely together, if there had been soooooo many women complaining, they would at least have heard rumors
C) if Buzzfeed wanted to let Ned go anyway the negotiations could have been handled very differently
D) we don't know how Ariel reacted bc we only saw one clip of her weeks after she definitely found out
E) female Try Guys employees weren't harassed, YB was, which is unfortunate, but she is a) one person and b) a media presence and c) on camera as often as Alex and d) she's asian, makes engagement content and is less forgettable than Alex, yeah it sucks but on paper she's similar to Alex and ppl jumped to conclusions...
Male employees weren't accused of cheating bc Ned is straight and aside from Miles none of them are regularly in front of the camera...
@@fentina getting constant questions about the Ned scandal and accused of being complicit about the situation and random people looking you up when you are not a public figure also count as harassment. Getting accused of not telling Ariel earlier just because they work or have worked with him counts as harassment and misinformation.
We cannot accuse every former buzzfeed employee of clout-chasing at ned's expense or being complicit of ned's infidelity at ariel's expense. There is a reason why a lot of the former buzzfeed employees that have worked with Ned were not surprised about the scandal and said he was a pain to work with. If you go back and watch the "why I left buzzfeed" videos, some of the themes that were mentioned (besides crap pay and abuse of interns) was male favoritism and difficulty to move up in the company. Due to the competitive nature buzzfeed set up between their employees, you cannot be surprised if there are former buzzfeed employees that have a grudge against ned. Even the ones that barely knew him kept getting asked about the scandal online.
@Yvannna FloryGuerra so Ned never tried to go into med school? I knew he was a chemist but I thought he was attending med school while working as a chemist since I remember him mentioning med school in a few videos.
What stuck with me most about the whole situation is if they wanted to cover it up and sweep it under the rug, I 100% think they would've gotten away with it. The photos taken were so blurry/such poor quality that I don't think it could be used as definitive proof. The fact that they didn't do that and instead handled it the way they were supposed to WITHOUT any public pressure speaks VOLUMES.
This is such a scandal that even KENNIE had to make a response 😭😭😭😭😭
"that's not even a read it's just true" oh my god I love this video already, get me up to date
I think this is the best take I've seen on the situation, because you really hit the nail on the head about how hurtful it was of him to do this so publicly. Just total disregard for his family.
2:12-2:18 was me yesterday and I absolutely choked 😂
The fact that Ned and the food baby heffa (keep forgetting her name) disregarded their own partners AND careers to the point of being this careless… idk if I’m impressed, appalled, or just absolutely stunned 😮
THE FOOD BABY HEFFA I----
I know im going to sound a bit crazy but this is my conspiracy/prediction as to how Ned is going to explain his side of “what happened”. I know this is gonna be wordy, but stay with me. The answer is so clear i feel like when it happens the world is gonna roll their eyes so far back into their heads that we might collectively rewind time but to just get into it, its gonna be the same reason given by Jay-Z as to why he cheated on Beyonce. “My life was going so perfect and I had everything I just fell into the path of self destruction” or “My life was cookie cutter that it felt boring” ORRR “ “The stress/anxiety of just all these good things happening to me I was looking for relief/way out/fell into a path of self destruction”. Hes going to tell us that it wasnt Ariels or the kids fault and that its all on him and that all of those emotions he had felt he should have spoken to his spouse or a friend so that he can garner the sympathy and try to make people question Ariel/Try guys support. When he gets to Alex he’s gonna tell us that he wasnt really attracted to her she was just “new” and “fun” and what they had was a friendship but as their bond grew closer he felt he could relate to her on a “simple” level but one day one thing lead to another and they had made a mistake they couldnt come back from and due to those previously listed “excuse” from the beginning he decided to just take the plunge and not come back. He will tell us that he does not excuse the damage he cause to his friends, the company, to alex but most importantly his family but he is only human and the mistakes he made helped him grow and see from a different perspective. He’s going to continue to “grow and change” and he’s not asking for forgiveness cause he knows he doesnt deserve it, but is telling us he is sorry. Like this sounds CRAZYY but doesnt this feel like the exact script hes gonna give us? Like WE KNOW what hes going to say, all them cheaters say the same thing ESPECIALLY the yt guys ngl. Anyways.. let me know if im crazy or not (i know i kinda am tho... but its not the job of my wife n kids to fix me.. its mine😢)
OOORRRRR (i am so... terribly sorry for my uncouth behavior) he's gonna go the complete arrogant route where he says "this has made me a better person and i have no regrets because this was a learning point for me and i dont blame anyone for being mad at me cause I would be mad too but Im gonna work on me" type shit LIKE DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEE??
You need to delete this before he copy n pastes it like the Try Guy's font
Coming back to this video cuz my friend has not heard of the ned drama. (We used to watch buzz feed videos when we were younger but she's chronically offline) so we are watching this together. I am enjoying every minute of this.
Someone liked so I need to add that she wasn't shocked by ned cheating. Just shocked it was with alex.
I think it’s self sabotage. There’s no other explanation for how it played out. He didn’t have the balls to leave . I hope he uses this time to be in deep therapy and Ariel does what she needs to for herself. He ain’t it though. That man does not like you or himself.
Love you saying “my wife bc I can’t stop giggling I associate “ This is my wiiiife” In Borats voice 😌🤣
im so glad to hear someone w a platform talking abt this from the perspective of an actual fan, it seems like most ppl are just talking abt it for the drama
The only answer to the question of why Ned would do this I can think of is that he has privileged white man syndrome. Knowing how white men are treated with kiddy gloves whenever they do something wrong it's very possible he just did not think it would fall back on him. It's possible that he has gone through life without his actions being scrutinized by others (unlike how many minorities are judged when they go out in public so they have to be very aware of how they are perceived) so he thought he could just slink around and no one would notice what he was doing.
It is truly mind boggling how much white men like this think they can get away with, but they only think that because most of the time they do get away with it. Thinking about how things went with Harvey Weinstein and other powerful men that hurt others for years and no one did anything because of their position, if Ned had done this at almost any other company it's very possible he would not have gotten in trouble. The company would care more about the money they already invested in him and the money he could still bring in that they would have covered up the whole affair to avoid a scandal and keep him on. Obviously, the other Try Guys have more integrity than that and did hold him accountable, but in almost any other situation Ned would not have gotten in trouble because in a white supremacist patriarchy like ours, white men are often just not punished like that.
I'd literally watch Kennie talk about anything.
I love how I immediately got best friend vibes, so glad I found you today.
I am SO glad she's covered this. 🖤
truly there is no underestimating the Audacity™of a man who wants to step out on his wife. my father cheated on my mother multiple times throughout their marriage (he only counts the times where he went "all the way" 🙃) but the final straw for my mother was when he was cheating on her with a woman he met and flirted with at the bar WHERE I WORKED AS A BARTENDER, while he was going around town to other bars telling people WHO WERE REGULARS AT MY BAR that he was getting a divorce. like he thought, i don't know, we stopped existing when he wasn't looking right at us, so we'd never find out?
he was real shocked to be informed he really was getting a divorce, when it all came out.
Now started watching Try Guys after this video and you weren’t lying. Ned’s ENTIRE personality was his wife
I know this is a serious important topic but GIRL. YOUR HAIR LOOKS SO GOOD RN ON GOD
Omg I haven’t been here since that ninja assassin movie with rain your channel grew so much I’m so happyyyy
Ex-buzzfeed employees were really having a moment these past few weeks. I was so caught up with the whole Ned drama, I'd completely forgotten about Watcher releasing Ghost files.
And yesterday's episode was so good too! Watcher has always had a place in my heart but Ghost Files came in clutch this week as comfort videos
Back when the Try Guys went on tour, they made a documentary abt it that you could buy. Somewhat recently they released it in full for free on YT and watching it with knowledge of this scandal was so... bitter-sweet? Like I'm sure if I had watched it when it came out, I would've been very moved. But after the scandal, it's just... I can't believe Ned jeopardised all this. And they mention how setting up a company was a huge risk, how they had to invest a lot, and how their first office was Ned&Ariel's house...
Ned: “Consensual workplace relationship”
You mean “affair”? 💀
Also because she's an employee... it can't truly be consensual.....
Yeah that was such a lawyer sentence. I was like….sir you indeed mean affair
"Consensual" might make since if they were on the same level
He can't just say 'I cheated on my wife with someone I'm a boss to'
@@anniek3866 Regardless of that being true or not, the way it was worded sounds like he’s minimizing what he really did, which is cheating. Sugar-coating it makes it more laughable. And was their relationship really “consensual” if he didn’t get his wife’s consent who was legally married to him? Lol
not just affair but an affair with an employee nothingless
I saw someone say that Ned doesn’t love his wife, he loves having a wife. Because if you love someone you address them by their name. Like Keith talks about his wife a lot to, but he uses her name. Ned just likes that he can have a wife… it’s just sad to see because Ariel seems so nice
This!! I was watching try guys since buzzfeed and had only learned her name when she popped up and introduced herself! At first I thought it was cute but when Keith got married and started talking about Becky, you notice the difference and realize how … “stylized” Ned’s persona seems? Idk
Yes! He thought of her as a possession, not a person. Not to mention the "I love my wife" puts the emphasis on him and how amazing his love is. It's an incredibly selfish catchphrase the more I think about it
your comment made me realize that i didn't even _know_ Ariel's name until this whole thing. that's just... wow
One thing that always stood out to me was the Valentine's gift video. The other guys made presents for Maggie and Becky, but Ned and Eugene made presents for Wes (Ned's son,) and Eugene's dogs. The difference was that Eugene talked about how Matt wasn't a Valentines type of person, which was why he was making something for the dogs instead, but Ned's reasoning was that something for Wes was basically the same as something for Ariel. A lot of people in the comments actually picked up on that, and said that Ned shouldn't just be seeing Ariel as "Wes' Mom."
In this case yes. But not always.
The fact that he flamboyantly cheated at a concert where everyone has their phones out filming anyway is just woooow the gall of it all
@Emotional Damage and the fact that there are recent pictures of him being out and looking like he doesn’t have a care in the world 😡
Not just any concert. A SOLD OUT Harry Styles concert. So reckless.
What's worse is that it wasn't just 1 person being stupid. They both made the conscious decision to go out on a "date" in broad daylight. We've already established that Ned is just... But Alex going along with this. She ruined a 10+ year relationship and is now known as a cheater/mistress by the internet. She is now known as someone who had an affair with a superior so that will make it harder for her to get jobs in the future too.
It’s almost like they wanted to get caught.
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria honestly with how blatant they were I’m starting to suspect that too
Again, Ariel designed the Try Guys freaking office. Chose the colors. Arranged the furniture.
Oh my god I completely forgot about that😭😭😭
The colors were literally iconic😭
Amazing mother AND interior designer? A woman of many talents.
And wasn't she pregnant as well
She did so much work and Ned repaid all her effort and love with his terrible behavior. She really deserves so much better.
Let's not also forget that Zach took the mantle of handling a lot of the legal side of all this while being disabled. He talked on the podcast how much his stress worsened his chronic pain. As someone who also is disabled with chronic pain, I applaud him because that is A LOT to handle.
And he did it so well! I truly want to know who their lawyers and PR team they amazing crisis management
Reading with this a migraine and COVID rn. Poor Zach.
@@candace3493 Feel better soon. I got Covid two weeks ago and I’m still not 100%.
Zach is honestly such a madlad. I respect him so much more after hearing about that. That must have been HELL to deal with, yet he still did it, despite the stress of it making his chronic pains worse.
@@candace3493 Please, take care and rest up. I wish you a speedy recovery!
"Cheating is the act of someone who hates you" is a statement so raw it floored me.
I don't think that's always true. I think that's what it feels like when you're cheated on, because it hurts so much, but I just think it's a basic lack of respect and lack of discipline. That's not automatically hatred imo
I felt that so hard and thinking back on what I know about my parents’ divorce, it had to have been a factor 😅
i think its more like not caring about your partner intrinsically
its putting yourself and your desires first without any empathy for the hurt you'll cause
@@atlaskat7980 What else would you call it though when someone has such a lack of respect for you that they’re willing to cheat? When they do that they don’t care about you, not really, people who love you or at least care about you wouldn’t willingly hurt you like that.
Him cheating is still insane cause how can you make your entire personality about how much you love your wife and then you do this shit 😭 lmfaoooo men are so scary
This is why I don’t trust people who make their relationships their whole persona bc what are you compensating for fr
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 exactly!!!
It’s overcompensating/sign of insecurity
he did it the same way some people make their political beliefs or religion, or their aesthetic or any single aspect of their identity their entire personality and they're the most hypocritical / fake people around when it comes to that aspect
People that talk about how much they love their partner constantly in public especially social media are always a red flag for cheating. A healthy relationship doesn't need to constantly be pumped up.
There’s a video of Ariel talking about her frustration at Ned not picking up a fair share of chores, specifically the laundry. To me this says so much about a guy who goes on about how much he ‘loves his wife’ and what a ‘good husband’ he is. Really he’s just oblivious to what it takes to be a good, respectful partner.
"good husband" means i just do performative admiration and also have sex !! 🤪🤪 /sarcasm
Wrung her dry for profit and couldn't even be a decent husband when doing it 🙃
Agree goes to show his love is only surface level
My wife started working recently and I’ve been taking care of the kids a lot more and taking on more responsibility. And I Definitely took her for granted. Like yeah I thought I was doing a good job. Even when she was staying home I came home and cooked I cleaned I did my own laundry and ironed my own shirts. But turns out there was like so much she was doing that just went over my head. Even now that we’re striving for 50/50 and I’m trying my hardest, it’s probably more like 60/40 if I’m being generous to myself. And I don’t want that. I’m trying not to hide behind “she’s just better at it than me.” Because that’s such a cop out. I know a man who’s raised 9 kids by himself + grand kids. If he can do it why can’t I? So yeah it’s definitely a journey. I’m grateful I’m with someone who is way too patient and understanding for her own good. But I never want to take advantage of that. Even though I still do.
@@joelman1989 she's probably only better because she's been doing it more, so you'll be absolutely fine in the long run, don't dwell on it too much. Putting in the effort to fix sth after u realized there was a problem is what matters. Wishing the best to both of you.
I feel so bad for Ariel as a person who was so gallingly disrespected, a wife so hurt by someone she loves and as a mother who has to worry about how this impacts her kids. But one thing that I don’t hear talked about a lot is the fact that Ned absolutely financially screwed her, not just himself and the Try Guys. Ned made the stupid decision to tie his whole professional persona to her and then cheat (incredibly, bafflingly recklessly), but her work in content creation is so entangled in that. And now he’s out of the company, she’s almost certainly lost the podcast, their cookbook/lifestyle brand thing is dead, etc. He mortgaged their house to start this business and then he torched it because he couldn’t respect her enough to tell her he was unhappy and couldn’t keep it in his pants around an employee.
Yup! And their podcast was under Fulmer Media. Man's really monetized their entire marriage and family
they also gave ted talks/seminars about marriage and family :/
jesus christ, i never fully considered the financial angle of things for ariel. how terrible for her :( i hope she’s got a good support system around her right now
Wow they mortgage their house for this douchebag? Damn is a huge blow to their financial side. Not sure what they will do from here onwards, considering their brand was the family being happy together.
Don't forget their kids and Ariel and kids' mental health. Financially as well for the kids.
This whole thing is fucking nuts. Alex’s fiancé isn’t getting as much notice but hopefully that means he can process the end of a TEN YEAR RELATIONSHIP in peace.
Ten years?! That’s so terrible. My sympathies to him too
Damn I feel so bad for him
Yo ten years, that's a lot of time to put into a relationship just to throw it all away.
if i was in a relationship with someone for nearly eleven years only for them to flush it all down the toilet for a fling with their married boss, i don't think i would have even been in the right state of mind to drop all of this info on reddit. i'd completely go into bsod mode after having a rando tell me all this info. hope he's taking all the time he needs and that he does eventually find what he's looking for. him, ariel, and the kids deserve happiness.
He's probably not getting as much notice because he's not a public figure like everyone else. Hopefully the audience lets him remain that way
I think one of the biggest things that bothers me about Ned's "apology" is that he says he's sorry to the Try Guys and the fans before he even says sorry to Ariel, not even mentioning their children
He probably said that to her personally. I'm not defending this piece of shit, but not everything has to be publicly posted on Twitter/Instagram.
He didn’t really apologize. Read it again. “Might” is in there, like it’s a question… he wasn’t taking responsibility. Any time you “might” be wrong, means you don’t actually acknowledge that you are. Just a thought.
Saying sorry to his brand.
“If a man writes a woman a sonnet, it means he loves her. If he writes her 300 sonnets, then he loves sonnets.”
If a guy says he loves you, then he loves you. If he makes it his public brand that he loves you, then he loves being known as a good guy.
That’s a very interesting way of putting it!
it's giving hamilton
@@jcovers5908 💀
Anything that publicized should have their authenticity questioned
Damn you spoke facts fr
Ariel should start her own interior design channel. Doing people's houses, DIY and renovating spaces!
Or have her own show with Second Try. Their office is stunning thanks to her
I would definitely watch that!
I would love to watch her do that!!!
I’d watch
I remember the guys tried to have a segment on their Channel that focused on Ariel's design skills but it wasn't popular. But I think if she had her channel that focused on interior design and decor it would be pretty cute.
I think you're the first commentary I've seen that acknowledged the complexities and financial aspects of removing Ned from the Try Guys. He was a co-founder of the business. He co-owned the company. He undoubtedly had put money in the pot to help start things up. You just can't hand a person like that their walking papers very easily. You did a really good job of breaking this all down. I'd tell you that you could have a future in drama stuff, but I would miss my Saturday bad movie fix.
Didn’t they use his old house as their office?
@@Tigerlilly7827 yep and he was HR for awhile
@@Tigerlilly7827 yes they did. They used Ned's first house as their first office.
Cheaters honestly fascinate me. Kennie hit the nail on the head for just how outrageous it is not to HIDE something like this
She opened my eyes about the hatred underlining the whole thing.
Even if I was a nobody, I wouldn't be cheating in public if I was the type to cheat in the first place. Did he think no one would notice????
The fact that he took a photo with a fan while on a date with a woman who wasn't his wife is what really blows my mind.
Something obviously made him not care at all about doing it in public.
Right? Like have they been getting away with it for so long they just got bold?
A lot of people are mad at them for calling this experience "traumatic" but their whole company, reputation and possibly their finance stability were all affected bc of ned's actions.
And what isn’t traumatic to one person will be to another. Kinda fed up that people are trying to dismiss their justified emotions, but unfortunately that’s the internet
I mean one of your best friends turning out to not be the person you thought they were would definitely be traumatic imo.
@@mkg2124 especially knowing that what they did was betray the person they claimed to care about the most, and in the process really screw you over in a lot of different ways.
yeah it was really fucked up of people to act like they're some Corporate Entity just because they had a start from buzzfeed when in reality, they aren't. the way people act like they shouldn't be speaking on the situation and going all "what about the woman who got cheated on???" as if the four of them AND ariel weren't friends for almost a decade and that ariel herself didn't state that she absolutely wants privacy for her part.
People who say that clearly aren’t listening to how much this situation has hurt the remaining guys financially, emotionally, physically, and creatively. When this all went down, Keith was on a comedy tour and Eugene was also busy with something, because Zach was the only one in the office at the time and had to take the lead on starting all of the calls and process alone. Keith being on your meant that he couldn’t talk about the situation or confide in ANYONE he was travelling with-he spent so much of what should have been a fun venture stressed and wondering how this situation was going to hurt them and Lewburger’s.
Zach’s whole days became dealing with this shit, meaning he sacrificed his physical health and multiple creative projects to make sure things were being handled properly. (I don’t have examples for Eugene because he hasn’t shared anything, but I assume he experienced similar struggles.)
This isn’t just a “oh, my friend cheated on his spouse, what an asshole” situation, despite what some on the Internet want it to be.
"Cheating is an act of hate" AMEN to that! I am so tired of people making stupid excuses about how cheating is not that bad. The very root of cheating is betraying someones trust. If you care about someone even on the most basic level you wouldn't do something you know would crush them. It's an awful thing to put anyone through, especially when you have kids with that person so they will also end up getting hurt from the fall out.
Preach!
It's not simply crushing them. It's severely messing them up. Someone crushes me, sucks, but I get over it. My ex cheating on me? I didn't even go on one-offs for YEARS.
That's the thing! "Cheating" doesn't mean anything on it's own, it means you stepped outside the bounds of trust you built in a relationship!
Cheating is not an act of hate.
The only thing acting on hate and love have in common is that the only reason your doing what your doing for the affect it has on the person.
Cheating is an act of selfishness.
You couldn't give two f how it affects the person long term. Just how it affect u in that moment. Unless it's out of revenge, cheating is not an act of hate.
Exactly💯💯
There's a tweet going around that said the try guys were bastardizing the term "trauma" because "how the hell is a cheating scandal traumatizing?" and it made me so angry. How can you watch the consequences and the fall out of the scandal and not think it's traumatizing? Losing a friendship is hard enough, but losing a sense of trust in someone you thought was a friend? A sense of trust in yourself to have the right people around you? The feeling of fear and anxiety because that person's reckless and narcissistic behavior caused your staff to get DEATH THREATS and possibly lose their income? And on top of that, you're losing your bag and it's happening all publicly! How is that not traumatizing???
I saw that tweet too, it made me so fucking mad. Of course it’s traumatic, for exactly the reasons you said
i first saw that tweet when i saw a qrt disagreeing with it with 80k likes last time i checked, so i have some hope that not everyone thinks like that
Because they are kids who never experience hardship.
I stand by this phrase: "you cannot dictate what is traumatic for someone". Trauma is different one person to another, and HOW MUCH it impacts you. Three people can experience the same thing and have vastly different outcomes.
This is why the SNL sketch had me mad as hell. Like "oh know y'all are blowing it out of proportion" like I'm sorry, but if someone betrays my trust and fucks with MY money, you better know that it's gonna be a problem. Not to mention it tried to paint them in the wrong like Ned wasn't a whole ass cheater having an affair with his EMPLOYEE.
Don’t forget that Eugene comes from a divorced family. He’s talked a little bit about the struggles of growing up with that. And to see someone he considered a friend cheat on his wife, after having 2 kids, that would be infuriating. Especially if he was friends with Ariel before she married Ned. His anger is 1000% understandable
I didn’t even think of this. It’s seven months later and I’m still honestly distraught that we lost Ariel in this. I really miss her.
Agreed about Ned being low-key bad to Ariel. Once, on the you can sit with us podcast, she opened up about how even though she's an interior designer with her own life, Ned had been using his company as an excuse to leave her with more of the housework and childcare. Like pulling all the night shifts with the baby and etc. That was like a year ago probably but it stuck with me, because it was a confirmation for me that the whole Wife Guy Family Man Thing was probably played up quite a bit.
Because a lot of straight guys do that they have kids and are pretty present when the kids are still babies and then once they get older they just dump them on the Mom to deal with
Literally the only Try Guys related content I've ever consumed was a part of that one episode of that podcast. I don't remember how I ended up there, but as soon as I started seeing tweets about how one of the Try Guys cheated, my first thought was "I bet it's the one who doesn't clean."
Because, to me, leaving the entire physical and mental burden of maintaining a household to your partner smacks of the same kind of disregard for their well-being as cheating, just in a way that's more humdrum and normalized. Women are socialized to see a lot of behaviors as "just dumb guy stuff lol" instead of subtle indicators that someone doesn't actually care or think about your needs and comfort.
@@wetsockz3001 that's scary...childcare needs team effort. Putting on one person is tough.
@@chendakavithyam3092 Beautifully put.
@@wetsockz3001 sadly, I think this was when their second baby was quite young! I remember Ariel mentioning Ned was expecting her to do a lot of his care and how overwhelming it was for her. It sounds like Ned in general just doesn't consider her energy or time to be as important as his own.
When talking about how cheating needs to be done with some form of hate it reminds me of that clip of Ned speaking about his wife's cleaning. She throws out his old leftovers that were sitting in the fridge for DAYS and he said it like she was so annoying for that and was clearly ticked off by it. When the wife heard and responded in a later podcast she said she was hurt by it. She thought she was cleaning and looking after their home, but for him to disregard her efforts and label her annoying in front of thousands clearly hurt her. It showed a bit of insight to the way he sees his wife and the slight petty resentment he holds. OH and the fact he credited someone else for keeping the house clean, AND said having kids "ruins you and any chance of romantic interest"
Especially because in context that happened when all the other guys were praising their partners and all the work they do… and then Ned just takes the chance to complain
Oof, that sounds like the kind of thing my ex would say and try and pass off as ‘just a joke’ [read: If I say I’m just kidding that means you don’t get to feel upset about it, even though that was obviously the only reason I said it in the first place].
Reeks of insecurity and resentment fr.
Somehow I think that one other reason he cheated is probably because he felt inadequate. It’s no secret that everyone likes Ariel more than him. He probably wanted someone who was dependent on him in some way. Ariel is a strong independent woman with a bigger more likable personality and that hurt his fragile ego. This no way excuses his cheating, but it’s something I’ve thought about ever since I heard the news.
@@casieg.7040 He was the least popular and interesting TG and people like his wife more. This was definitely about his ego and sense of entitlement and yeah, he probably doesn't like/secretly hates his wife. He even probably resented her BECAUSE his marriage/kids was all he felt made him interesting, despite the fact that HE was the one that wouldn't shut up about it! 💀
@@kitty_visionary_meow exactly! You described it way better than I did lol
I find it crazy how some people are saying the try guys aren’t allowed to be traumatized by the situation because they aren’t the fiancé or wife. Like? What? Is romantic relationships more important than platonic relationships?
And also the finantial impact this is having on their lifes!!!
These people are talking like people, who never went through watching 2 people you love going through a breakup: I was upset, when my uncle (blood relation) cheated on his wife (whom I adored more. she was the sweetest and had been in my life since I was a toddler!).
I was also heartbroken, when 2 of my college friends broke up. These situations are messy, painful and change the dynamics of the whole group. Awful.
Ah yes the totally not traumatic downfall of your company, friends lives, your lives, your employees, your brand, and the millions of dollars you lost
On the podcast they said they were on talks with lawyers for HOURS on the DAILY! That alone is insanely stressful, trying to figure out the legal ramifications of something you didn't even do. Something that could have ended your career by association. Ending almost a decade long friendship because of what needed to be done. Having a whole company upended because multiple employees, in your super small company, are feeling hurt. It's a lot, and we don't even know the full story.
The worst breakup I ever had was with a friend. And I’ve had some bad romantic breakups. But being ghosted by a best friend hurt on a whole other level, you just do not see that coming.
Imagine destroying decade long friendships, your boss placement at the company you 1/4 own, your wife and sons' trust, your public and private reputation, and your entire social media career for the irrelevant, less interesting food baby who is also your engaged employee. The level of STUPIDITY 🙄
he must have secretly hated them all
@@ririschannelx Or hated himself more than he cared about them🤷🏼♀️
dude I hadn't watched the video yet and I thought you were insulting the woman by calling her a POS indirectly
@@eliontheinternet3298 Well, Alex IS a piece of shit. She's a cheat too and she KNEW Ariel too. She pretended to be all nice to Ariel, but behind her back, she was screwing her husband! I also feel really bad for her fiance too, who she cheated on. Ned and Alex are both terrible people. If someone can cheat, they have no consideration for others.
Tbh i hate the some of yall phrase this, it rubs me the wrong way in ways that would too long to explain. But I think at the end of the day cheaters will always cheat. Doesn’t matter with who, doesn’t matter how “amazing and beautiful” their partner is. Cheaters are narcissistic, selfish, and only care about themselves. So Ned cheated cause he is all those things and needs serious therapy, not “for a boring employee who was part of Food Babie”.
The last few minutes of your video hit hard. My dad cheated on my mom when I was little. My "family" ended when he cheated. And the questions you asked at the end are the questions that plagued my childhood well into my teens. I told myself that clearly we meant nothing to him if we meant less than the thrill of cheating. Like, our entire family, who we were, me as his child, it was all worth the gamble. I was three when my dad cheated, and it was everyone's conversation my entire childhood. Ned's kids WILL know, his kids will question their worth for a very very long time. F this man!
I feel you, I was also 3 when my parents got divorced because my dad had been cheating. Not only all of what you said but also being biologically related to your parents when this happens can cause huge existential crisis for a child. Being told "Oh you're just like your father/you look just like your father." Goes from being a sweet message to being something you hate yourself for because of what HE did not you. My parents divorcing was absolutely for the best but they still said awful things about each other that hurt me so deeply being in the middle of. To them they were talking about their ex but to me they're talking about my mom or my dad that I can't help but share similarities with. Existential crisis and self hate abound! The stuff you mentioned also contributing to that! I'm 23 now and it STILL messes me up. To remember how much of my childhood was ruined because my dad just truly didn't care. It's so fucked up and the added fact this is a big public viral thing is an added factor that I thankfully can't relate to, I can't even begin to understand how it'll effect the kids mentally, just that it'll stay with them
Thank you for sharing this, and I'm sorry you had to experience this. I hope Ariel sees this and doesn't stay with Ned "for the kids" and could easily grow to resent her as well
@@EdenGlows I am so sorry that your parents took their anger with each other out around you. My ex cheated on me repeatedly, I cannot stand him but I have and will never bad mouth him in front of our son cause at the end of the day, that is his father and I know I would only be hurting my son.
As much as I detest my ex, I also love my son more than anyone else, he is his own wonderfully little person, he is amazing and smart and kind and empathetic. You are these things too! He is a wonderfully, unique individual who is not a carbon copy of me or his father. This is true of you too, you are wonderful and kind and your OWN person! You get to choose who you are and who you want to be, bollocks to everyone else, they don't get to dictate who you are.
I don't know you but I hope you are able to put other people's judgements and opinions to the side and stick a middle finger to them all and go live your best life
Hugs for you, you got this ❤️
@@theblackkittie13 Thank you so much for your endlessly kind comment! Q_Q I really appreciate it and thank you for being such a kind parent as well. I always understood my moms anger towards my dad because of course it was justified! Though it still hurt, especially because she did tell me how much I am like him before too. One time I did break down in front of my mom about it a long time ago and we had a talk and she had stopped bad mouthing him and telling me I’m like him at least and Im not around my dad much anymore for other reasons. So Im doing fine in this regard! But even still looking back it will always stay with you and hurt even when you’re better. Im so sorry you had to go through that because I can’t imagine the pain that causes someone directly but you seem to handle yourself with much grace! Thank you again and I hope you and your son have amazing lives!! Your son is lucky to have you :-) Hugs back 💙
I hope Ariel leaves him because my mom decided to stay in a toxic/abusive relationship with my father for more than 20 years and I've seen firsthand how incompatible spouses affect the children and the person being cheated on mental wellbeing. I like how Kennie described cheating as an act of hate because it honestly is. The first time I found out my dad was cheating was when I was 11 and the whole time I didn't think it was true then I found out again when I was 20 and both times I told my mother who disregarded it. I found out that my dad was basically cheating on my mom throughout their entire relationship he doesn't do shit to help her pay the bills. Doesn't want to get a second job, nothing he even had the audacity to say to her that he didnt care if they lost the house because my mom was working so hard to pay off the mortgage and basically buy everything for the house that she wanted to take a few months off work to relax. How evil can you be??? He even uses her card to buy groceries and put gas in the cars. He says he doesn't have money when I literally saw that he had a brand new watch. She would always say she's staying in the relationship because of us but I honestly dont feel that is true because she's so much better than him. I think she is just scared to be alone. But good news is is that they're FINALLY splitting for good......hopefully she goes through with it ...... Bottom line is, Ariel needs to leave for the sake of her kids mental health and her own because I dont think you can "work this out" especially since he was so nonchalant about it
can't believe this dude was so insecure, he not only blew up an 11 year relationship AND possibly his own 10 year marriage that resulted in 2 children under the age of 5, he also threw the past 8 years him and the rest of the guys spent building this brand away all to hook up with his employee for nearly a year. truly the definition of "fumbled the bag".
Fumbled? He crumpled the bag, threw it outside and ran it over with his car.
@@Ms.July-Moon exactly! the fact that he did it so publicly too makes it even worse.
@@Ms.July-Moon and then bombed the road just to be sure the bag is gone
@@gertiesiegel3912 And then flipped off the smoking crater where the bag once was.
@@tortis6342 then went home & bombed that too
Ned really hated Ariel and his children then. It also shows that he is untrustworthy, unreliable, deceptive, fiscally and morally irresponsible in his life as well as business. I say it was very right that the remaining Try Guys were furious and fired him.
I feel like he grew to resent Ariel over the years. She was always the prize. I guess with Alex he felt like the prize
If I've learned anything with all these cheating scandals is this: Anyone who constantly says "he loves his wife doesn't really love her at all..."
He definitely has this 1950s, 2 kids, white-picket fence vibe, whether he wanted it or not. Maybe he felt like he had to have the perfect family, but he definitely didn’t WANT it.
I think he hated the fact that he made his wife and kids into his brand and had nothing else to bring to the table. Being against the other three Try Guys who are seem like talented powerhouses with side businesses while your main thing is just family (which is valuable in itself but not a "sexy" or dynamic brand) had to sting.
A reckless action like this was more than likely the manifestation of someone who was looking for a way out of the house of cards they built without having to vocalize their feelings. Ned could've just pitched a side show where he tried new things while going through a "mid-life" crisis to reinvent himself and undid his schtick instead of imploding his life. But, here we are.
@@ToDoListChecklist that’s the weird part, if you’re right, he could have EASILY done this. And even come clean and said “yall im struggling with my identity as a content creator, i feel like im in a box so bear with me as i find a new groove and experiment” and I’m sure the audience would have been receptive
My grandma used to say “ if you’re going to do something bad at least do it right!” Ned cheating on his wife who he “loves” is sick but Alex sitting there listening to Ariel talk about her insecurities, hyping her up just to turn around and f***k her husband is VILE!
Vile is truly the only word for it
Vile and a snake
Thank you!!
not only vile but truly evil
I don't like this take, considering we actually know nothing about her situation. Like, obviously I have some negative feelings towards her for her actions but since he WAS in a position of power above her, it could've been less straightforward than that. So I think we can privately hate her but on a public level we should be prosecuting just Ned
The part where you talked about Ned disregard of Ariel, even in the smallest act, reminds me of this one trypod video i think where all the other try guys expressed their appreciation towards their partner and then there's Ned whose whole internet personality is Mr. Wife Guy, instead of appreciating Ariel for taking care of the household chores and kids and be there for him through ups and down, he rant about her throwing out his LEFTOVERS the whole fricking time. Even Ariel felt unappreciated, she talked about it in her podcast, she keeps waiting for Ned to express his appreciation but she got zonk, it's very heartbreaking to watch.
maybe that was the sign - he doesn't care shits about her, already not thinking about her to appreciate anything that she'd done for him ie supporting him leaving buzzfeed, designing their office, raising their beautiful children???? ungrateful git he is😡
Do you remember what episode this is from?
Yes, I saw that clip! At that point, idk how Ned even had fans, that would have been a hella big red flag at least for how he actually treats that sweet woman.
@@headinthecloudsbookinhand the episode is called Addressing The Beef with "The Try Guys"
@@chelscara I was his fan. He was my favorite try guy mainly because of his FAKE persona being the 'family guy' but I don't watch their podcasts just cause I don't have that much time and I'm not interested as much, so I wasn't aware of that episode. This whole scandal just opened my eyes on who he really is and I'm really disgusted, I even feel so stupid for believing his 'show'.
Ned really put all of his personality eggs in one basket then decided to smash it with a hammer
Lmao but damn if that ain’t true lol.
Funnier cuz his animal is a chicken
In front of everyone else lol
And then some lmao
It's honestly sad how true that is. It seems like he literally took one look at his amazing life and went "I can break that SO much 🙂".
“Cheating is the act of someone who hates you. No one can disregard your emotional well-being, physical well-being, sexual health, peace of mind, your ability to trust people, and flat out embarrass you on this kind of level…if they love you in any way that matters.” To paraphrase
i disagree that cheaters hate their partner..! most people cheat because of their own insecurities or stuff like that.. obviously the consequenses really are way above that and feel humiliating and heartbreaking. but people dont usually cheat bc they hate their partner..
@@SebiHemke You’re allowed to have that opinion. However, I think the original concept is you can’t hurt/humiliate/betray someone and claim to love them. Whether you actively hate them, casually hate them, or just don’t care about them…you don’t love them and that’s the point.
So you devalue your relationships, especially your wife and fiance cause you're insecure?
I saw the SNL sketch the other day and I felt like it illustrated how people who don't ever watch the Try Guys videos underappreciate all the layers of fuck-up. You perfectly showed in this video on how many levels this scandal has affected a whole bunch of people! He managed to fuck up his relationship with his wife, his family and his friends, endangering their business, finances and the livelihood of their employees, humiliating his wife, probably her losing involvement with the business as well, and then there's Alex's end where her fiancé who she's been with for a decade has also been cheated on and she has also impacted people in her life negatively. This is shit has layers like a crêpe cake.
in one of the podcasts ned talked about how he has a friend he went to Yale with who works as a writer for SNL so that also plays into it
fr like when it first came out i was one of those people that was like "yeah he did something really shitty but why do we care so much about this guy's personal life??"
I started watching more of their videos last week and this whole thing was just a lot more fucked up in a lot more levels than i would've thought.
Not to mention... one of the writers who literally wrote THAT SPECIFIC SKIT was Ned's friend from college. Yuck.
I do feel so bad for Zach, Eugene and Keith and all of the Try Guys employees but my heart really breaks for Ariel (Ned's wife). I recently saw a TMZ video of paparazzi filming her and their kids outside their house, yelling questions to her about their relationship, and she just looked so uncomfortable and anxious/afraid. It was awful to see...... I know it will take time, but I just hope she and her sons are happy. That is all.
That sounds SO AWFUL 😭 especially for their kids
Oh no, that sounds horrible. Wishing them all the best, they deserve the peace 😫♥️
What kind of scummy human being could do that to a family? Their kids might be traumatized by that.
omg thats actually awful
one thing I hate about us humans is how we treat situations like this for views/likes/money. absolutely ridiculous
Oof. That's awful.
I have zero tolerance for cheating and you hit on exactly why: someone who does that doesn't care enough about you, and depending on the circumstances is showing they're capable of other bad things
Yes x 1000000
Cheating once usually means cheating a lot more later. If they have that attitude and capability, it could always happen again.
My ex tried to accuse me before, but he weirdly counted when I hit on a guy (who turned me down because I was drunk probably) but we were broken up, so I don't count that. I would never actually cheat.
it shows so much disrespect to your partner
Ned was displaying a Shakespearian level of hubris
You could make a whole ass play from this fucking situation 💀
And he’s right to because he lost a lot but he’s still a rich man can rebrand about a marriage that healed from cheating and live a nice life. It’s so upsetting how he probably won’t have true consequences which is why he is so flippant.
I saw a comment that said something like “them handling this so carefully to avoid being sued tells me Ned would actually sue them if he could” and honestly… I can see it
So can Alex. She probably would have more grounds for it than Ned, which is probably why she has not been brought up directly by them. I can see the bloodthirsty lawyers lining up to sue on the grounds of Ned being her boss and if the remaining guys fire her for the relationship without being extra careful about it (especially in California) there can be a lot of damage. Not to show my theater nerd card, but the legally blonde musical’s “Blood in the Water” comes to mind.
@@ESPHMacD ned would have big grounds too if they mess up the seperation and buy out and such he is 25% owner. Alex may be more likely to win but if ned won it'd be worse for them. Also court just sucks anyways its years of high bills
Ned could sue for defamation and Alex could sue for wrongful termination on the grounds of the power dynamic issue between her and Ned. She could probably argue that he coerced her into a relationship because he was essentially her boss.
So I think the Try Guys don’t want to risk getting sued by either because they’ve already lost hella money paying for PR, an internal HR review and lost sponsorships as a result of this debacle.
@@veekayyy_ on what grounds could Ned sue for defamation when he admitted to doing what the rumors said he did?
It’s so strange and sad for Ariel and her kids. But seriously one decision nearly crashed the entire business. When people think of the Try Guys now, they may think of this … brand ruined!
cheating is not a mistake
@@222222ania absolutely, changed the comment. It was a calculated and meticulous decision
@@222222ania It is a mistake, a big one that fucked everything up...
Mistakes are unintentionally. He MEANT to cheat. He went out of his way to do it.
I feel like it isn’t one decision, it was multiple because if it was just one time then that’s whatever but they were seen out Multiple times, that is what gets me you fucked up MULTIPLE times
Kennie said FINE WILL YALL SHUT UP NOW??? 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the tea bestie
**Edit: Kennie said nearly every single thing I had been thinking and feeling about this fiasco
see pressure works :D
Facts! When she said how strange it was to see Alex had been who he was having an affair with. I was shook at first!
Ned being the least favorite try guy 10000% influenced his decisions, I fear. Like he's just one of those people who do not have a personality, and kind of just exist. He's not terrible to hang out with, and he has a sense of humor but he is definitely the npc of the party. I think he definitely knew that and probably didnt think that The Try Guys would ever become something when he participated in those Buzzfeed videos. I think they grew so fast and were unprepared for how likable they were perceived to be and he didn't have anything else but the fact that he was the first one married. To me, honestly, it's like he almost used that over the other guys to obviously make up for his own personal insecurities. Eugene is taller, has better hair, and is just seemingly good at every task handed to him? "Well, I'm married. You're not." Keith is the funniest and quick witted one, with a deeper more sultry voice? "Well, I'm married. You're not." Zach is the quirky, sassy one who brings the most heart? "Well, I'm married. You're not." It's like he used his marriage to compensate for his lack of individuality and used it as a trophy that he was the first and only, for a while, to have acquired. I think that with Eugene coming out and bringing in a lot of new subs and views, and with Keith have being married for a few years now, Zach and Eugene both getting very close to settling down and getting married soon, mixed with the knowledge that he is probably the last ranked in relatability and likeability, Ariel now having her time taken up by business and especially the two kids, just snapped and saw a way to feel desired again. Even now, I feel like he's relishing in the fact that a lot of people are talking about him for the first time and know his name, even if it's in a negative light. I think feeling desired by Alex, him depraved for attention, made him so reckless and nonchalant. Not to mention the power that comes along with the obvious bank they make. He probably was living on cloud nine, thin ki ing rhat he would get away with it, the fear of getting caught adding to make the affaur more enticing. Mix all of that together, and you have a desperate and greedy man ready to do anything to still feel needed and attractive.
This right here^^^ I’ve personally never watched any of their videos but I’ve heard abt them and even this is traumatic to hear
"...but he is definitely the npc of the party" sent meeeee
Oooooh look at you! Hit the nail right on it’s head
I wonder about his relationship with Alex. I really hope it was consensual and he wasn't using her, though she is in NO WAY unaccountable either.
He and eugene were my favourites
All I’ve learned from all of this is never trust a guy that makes his wife half his personality.
John mulaney
Cm punk
Half is VERY generous 😂
90% his personality
half is really generous besty, more like 110%
Someone mentioned how you rarely hear Ned say "Ariel". He always says "my wife". A sign of a cheater is when they never call their partner by name because they're scared they'll call the wrong person. I thought that was pretty interesting since my ex did the same kind of things Ned did--cheated, never called my name, made me his personality. This scandal, specifically the comment relating to the scandal, really took me back.
It's like these dudes protest a little too much.
I had a very similar experience with my ex also!
And by contrast, Keith always refers to Becky as "Becky." She is her own person, not an extension of him.
I never picked up on that! I’m aware of that kind of distancing language in the context of forensics- ie. If a suspect says ‘the girl’, or ‘that girl’ instead of calling a victim by name that’s a dead giveaway. It’s a way of psychologically and emotionally distancing yourself from seeing another person as a human being- and describing them like you would an object.
@@susanmclare I just thought of Bill Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with _that woman_ " which has the same vibe
My problem with the "consensual workplace relationship" bit is that Ned CANNOT be 100% certain that it was entirely consensual. He was her BOSS, and the unequal power dynamic may have affected her decision-making process. Like Kennie said, he signed her paychecks. He had some say on how much exposure she gets on the channel and what kind of work she gets. One could say that there is NO way the relationship was consensual.
I was admittedly surprised, but my partner wasn't when I told him. He said Ned always seemed like he was trying too hard to push the story that he had the perfect life, perfect wife, perfect kids, etc. He said Ned, of the four, seemed like the one most likely to cheat.
Another commenter pointed it out on another video, but Eugene also lived through his parents' messy divorce, and really likes Ned's kids, so I'm sure he was also angry for them as someone who's been through that.
@Bla Bla they are literally best friends. They call each other one of their best friends. It’s sooo sad