DJI Mini 3 Pro // 10-bit vs 8-bit Video Footage // BRILLIANT or BOLL@CKS?! SHOCKING RESULTS!
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The importance of being able to film in 10-bit. I’m so glad DJI added this feature on the Mini 3 Pro. Make such huge difference for me. Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Wise words, "Build your skills instead of obsessing over specs".👍
This is not hyperbole. You’re the best at this kinda channel and footage. I’ve watched maybe every TH-camr who’s doing both the drone operation and the grading and you all knock it out both in the technical and entrainment departments!
Thank you so much Jissan!!
so glad I found this channel - so useful.
Yeah I gotta say, this is the first time I’ve came across this channel and due to the concise delivery of what use to be complex information to me, I will be subscribing! Thanks a lot :)
Another great video from the most trusted aerial photography channel! There are so many Mini 3 clickbait and poorly executed "tests" at the moment, thanks for being professional and reliable!
Stewart, as someone who is trying to educate himself about all this stuff and who has a mini 3 "finally" scheduled to arrive tomorrow I really appreciate you breaking this 10-bit upgrade down to a level I can understand. Well done!
This is the kind of info I actually need. It’s amazing what the Mini 3 Pro is able to deliver. Image quality is one of its strengths. Top-tier quality for a mini drone!
Great video. Very informative. I just bought the mini 3 primarily for indoor use, being around people and animals. Very quiet. It was the 10 bit that sold me. Seems like a great addition to the shooting arsenal.
Another great video, loved the in-depth analysis 👍
Very good! Quantifying differences was something I wanted to see with 10-bit on the 3 pro, thank you.
Great advice and examples thanks
Really useful information about 10 bit on Mini 3 Pro. I like the comparison between all 3 drones. Great work 👏
Very Informative ~ Thanks For Sharing 🙏🏻❤️
Great explanation and comparison. Thank you.
Mine is arriving tomorrow, can't wait!
Good comparison video Stuart
incredible video! Perfect :D
Interesting comparison, thank you! But comparing shadows we measure rather noise level and dynamic range. Low color depth in this case you can see only in histogram as sharp peaks. In this test I prefer Air 2S, it gives more details and less noise even comparing with Mavic 3, banding there is just noise reduction, which is not a problem for the case. I think, filming low contrast scene (e.g. in fog, or gray sky) with following strong increase of contrast will give more representative results of color depth level.
Dammm!!! I subscribed. Good stuff 👍
Thanks for the awesome video!! I currently am running a Mavic Air 2. I was thinking about selling off to upgrade to a 2s, Mavic 3, or mini pro 3. The lack of d-log is super concerning for me in comparison to the former two options. I'll be backpacking (out of an 85L pack) for year abroad though, so the 249g restriction lift regardless of location would save much headache that I've gone through in the past. I also am of course a fan of the vertical gimbal (something I am hoping that the Mavic Air 3 will include). I often fly in the mountains (Swiss Alps) or between islands over water in SE Asia. I've never used something so light so the wind would certainly make me nervous, not only for the sake of durability, but also for the integrity of the shot as I've seen mixed results in terms of smooth footage on windy days with the mini 3. Would you mind adding your input on what route I should go? Thanks!!
Would love to see a video about the HLG colour profile on the Mavic 3 and how to colour correct it in FCP
Finally can conclude I need this drone. It’s only Mini 3 Pro’s first firmware update yet and so far it’s making significant upgrades. I’ll see this tiny but mightier drone real soon!!!
Great testing of the 8 bit footage against the 10 bit. You so a good job at explaining these technical details to us non professionals. This added features really does make the Mini 3 a Pro drone. Thanks for sharing this important information with us.
It is far from being a pro! Remember that this 10bit is based on a 256 colors divided by 1024 and codec at 10bit. That is what I show on this video, it only show the same dynamic range from both colors/gray values divided. A camera with true 10bit you will not see the low frequency. Basically is a 8bit with a container of 10bit. This is very common in the video world. Also the color space looks like ais 4:2:0 compression. Most important about any footage is how well exposure it is and how much definition the lens can let light pass true. It is easy to use a filter to convert 8bit data to even 64bit.
Great video. I would still like to see a comparison between D-Cinelike and Dlog. Mainly which is easier to grade with less complexity.
Great video ! DO you have any video about the digital zoom quality ? I have an M2Pro and in love with the 40mm focal length HQ video mode. WOuld love if the Mini3 2x digital zoom would have a similar quality... Any hints ? Thanks
Thanks thats so cool to know
Extremely useful video and reinforces my decision to upgrade from my trusty Mavic Pro ……
Nice one!
It's great to have confirmation that it's real and not just marketing, or worse. Thanks for this video.
For sure...I wasn't sure how the test would go but fortunately it all went the way it should have!
Great explanation. Any chance of you making a video on how to make a slow motion video? 120fps and how to edit the footage etc. Thanks. 👍
Thanks guys, saved me the work of checking myself. Cheers :-)
Thanks for that comparison. It’s exactly what I wondered while waiting for my Mini 3 (should be here within the week). I’m very curious to see the Air 2S and Mini 3 compared in detail as I’m so familiar with the Air 2S and find it amazing for grading.
Hi Andrew, whats your verdict? How does the mini 3 pro compare to the Air 2S in regards to dynamic range?
@@MarkusGebhard It's interesting, I prefer working with the Air 2S files in post since it has a very flat log profile. But the video quality after the fact is next to impossible to tell apart between the two drones. The DR on the Air2S should be better but I haven't been able to see a big benefit of it.
I'm just an amateur who hasn't the skills to take advantage of 10 bit colour (or the need!) but well done on the detail you've gone to in this video.
Air 2S looked like it had a lot less noise than the other two. Yes, I saw the banding but that's an easy fix.
Less noise because the blacks were absolutely crushed into oblivion, easily visible by the shadows taking on a purple hue. Infinitely more Data being captured on the other drones
What video editing r u using? Thanks 😊
Nice video👍 , liked & subscribed, thanks for sharing ‼️
Thanks and welcome!
Cheers ma freind
When I heard the Mini 3 pro had only 8bit video I disappointed then I heard the new firmware update put it at 10bit I was still skeptical but glad I found this video. 🙌🏻
Can you use digital zoom in D-Cinelike mode with Mini3?
Good stuff.
Ya Earned my sub sir.
Thxs!
Thank you for this very interesting video! I don't know with which hybrid you filmed but the difference in colorimetry between your hybrid and the mini 3 is enormous! Contrast, color depth there must be 2 to 3 stops difference... Maybe a Sony given the skin color tints -) All the best from France
awesome.
Feel free to tell me I´m wrong (I would like to be) but I heard that there is actually not more dynamic range in the 10 bit dcinelike, just more colour depth. So you can avoid banding, but not really recover more of blown out highlights etc.
Considering the compressed histogram I would like to think there is more room for editing but I also found that there is a LOT of noise in the darker areas with dcinelike.
You’ve sold it to me… ordering one this month!!!
Do you have more information about maximum bitrate in 10bit?
Are you using Final Cut Pro?
What software are you using to edit your video? I don't have a ton of experience with Premiere Pro yet but it looks like you're using something different than Premiere Pro?
how to select 8 bit or 10 bit? or is the HQ 24, 25 and 30 is 10 bit?
Still no dng in AEB to download? Why none is uploading good raw photos to test?:(
Nobody is EVER going to have this level of acute eyesight required to differentiate between over 1bn colours, at least not until humans and robots can be combined.
As previously stated, you have provided us with the most comprehensive guide to this new drone, but haven't bombarded us with info and specifications. I've ignored all the other M3P videos, and only used yours to learn from. Thanks again.
where can I check if it's 10 bit or 8 bit ??? on a Mac FCPX
Does this apply to 4k24 or 4k60 also?
How do you select 8-bit or 10-bit? Can't seem to find it
Very shocking, and nice to know that it does competent video recording even when it's on one of my posted "Hyper Extreme" range tests
How do you put 10 bit on with the dji mini 3 pro?! No1 seems to explain this part
Cool vid! The most important advantage of 10bit over 8bit is that 1% situation where you find yourself shooting in a high contrast environment; other than that the difference is not really noticeable when shooting in a uniform light and properly exposed. But still, for that 1% I would def use 10bit over 8bit anytime! :). Btw , your tests are not really showing the advantage of 10bit over 8bit because there is not much difference in light nor showing harsh lights thus making them look almost similar in a uniform controlled environment. One of the clearest and best advantage of 10bit is shooting directly in the sun at sunset/sunrise, there you would see a huge difference. Cool comparison tho' ! Cheers!
I returned my DJI Mini 2 & sold my Mavic 3 to buy the Autel Nano+ & EVO 2 because of the DJI GeoFence Flight Restrictions, which Autel does NOT implement.
DJI should offer a disclaimer/waiver option, releasing them of any liability (just as Autel does)...
the lumetry scope says it's rec 709 on both, shouldn't one say rec 709 HDR?
I have the Air 2 and those "ant" artifacts on grass is annoying, also the grayscale boarders is very visible on the Air 2. Is this gone on the 2S?
Absolutely obsessed with your channel. Great source of information. As a fellow resident of Scotland I recognise a lot of locations you film at. Do you do any field drone training days? I am not a novice, have been flying Mini and Mini 2 and absolutely love the possibilities of these drones. Would love to learn how to get the best possible footage out of that.
hi mate, what area is this?
@@jamskof Scotland
Very helpful. I’m shooting on the original Mavic and deciding on an upgrade. This one definitely has my attention since I post most of my stuff on Reels and it shoots true vertical 4K
Do you mean the mavic pro 1? I still have the MP1 and have ordered the mini 3 pro, haven't managed to find any direct comparison since the MP1 is so old now but I imagine the camera will be a lot better in a lighter package!
@@John1986ATR yes the MP1. If you post a comparison when you get the mini 3 I’ll be the first viewer! About ready to pull the trigger anyway but I’d love to see a direct comparison.
@@bennitka Me too! I also have the old Mavic 1 and want to upgrade. Air 2S or Mini 3 Pro???
@@Hillgarvideos74 I’m thinking mini 3 because it’s newer, shoots vertical video and has a less expensive RC controller.
@@Hillgarvideos74 I was between these two as well. I like to take the drone hiking and camping. Currently the MP1 with controller in a case weighs 1.3kg. The Mavic mini 3 should take up less space and weigh quite a bit less. The only annoyance for hiking is the larger RC vs the old MP1 fold out remote but having the built in screen should be handy.
I had a debate with a guy over 10 bit and 8 bit and he was saying all kinds of things as to why you don’t need anymore than 8bit, I just said 10 bit allows you to get more info in the lowlights/shadows and bring them up and even though we can’t see it with our eyes natively you certainly can see it in post when you bring up those dark shadows.
For sure. You don't need raw photography either but it is amazing compared with editing jpegs so if you're at that stage you definitely want it. Same for 10-bit video. Gets us a little bit closer to raw video which, again, for those who are so inclined, certainly brings benefits.
Fantastic look at the difference. Now I don't have to do it thanks! 😜
H265 or h264?
This kind of content sets you apart from all the cr*p other so called drone vloggers put out. Talking about signal strength and range tests from their back garden (flying beyond vlos regularly)
Great work Stewart. I struggle with colour grading and would buy a lut pack tomorrow if I knew how to use it. But only from you, trusted source!
Thank you for your kind words!!
Couldn’t agree more. Feels a few notches above. Difference between an artist and a proficient technician.
1:59 name aplication??
This might seem dumb, but can someone explain or show me a tutorial that explains reels and TH-cam shorts please?
My mini 3 isn’t here yet, but wanna make use of this vertical shooting mode!
You can create shorts with any videos, you just crop the sides. Avoid filming vertically at all cost! do that in post, you never want to film in a format that later on you will regret tremendously.
What DJI did was simple, they divided the 8bit captured of 256 levels by 0.25 to get the fake 10bit of 1024 levels and applied a filter to blend the 0.25 together. The Noise you see is not the 10bit and yeas poor sensor capabilities for low light capture. Remember that more bits means nothing if the capture is poor, you are just pushing more pixels around from the 256/1024. True 10bit you will get better controls of the colors and dynamic if the data is there when the camera captured. DJI could make this fake 10bit even better if the apply a anti-blocking filter between the 0.25 slices. 🍕
any official link for this? or just guess?
Thanks to DJI for updating the OS - now I might consider upgrading from the Mavic 2 zoom
I did exactly same thing and I’m happy enough. Missing the optical zoom and wind ressistance. My only reason for this choice were the flight restrictions
Keep the zoom a killer drone and hard to even find!
@@cipri198zero I see. Thanks for sharing! I think I will definitely miss the optical zoom and the small remote. So maybe I will just hang on to my zoom for a bit haha. I was wondering if the digital zoom on the mini 3 will be better than the optical zoom on the M2Z?
@@AtortAerials Thanks for the advice. PS (regarding it being hard to find): Wow really? Here in HKSAR, CN there is an abundance of second hand zooms for some reason.
@@tong.clement Hey! The M2Z optical zoom is far superior to the 2x digital zoom on the Mini 3 Pro. Zoomed in at 2x the image is really quite soft.
still confuse, should i buy mavic air 2 or mini 3 pro
Simple answer! The Aperture of the Mini 3 is bigger, better in low light. And it can film up 60%. And small factor. But everything else even the 10bit is not a big deal cause the 10bit is based on a low quality data. Higher bits means nothing if the camera can not see well or provide details.
Seriously, I rarely see people flying their drones at all these days. I wonder where all these hundreds of thousands of viewers are flying their drones. I've only flown my drone twice since the Mini 3 Pro was released.
I've had my mini 3 twelve days and have flown it on seven of those.
The very best DJI Mini 3 Pro review regarding 8-bit and 10-bit that can be seen on TH-cam so far. A link to this very professional video review via the various social media platforms is certainly in order. Cum laude to the creators. 🏆👏🏻
Very kind of you to say so!
DJI. Where are the fly more kits and batteries. Can someone find out WTF!? They are saying August!?
4:15 --- QUESTION... how can you say the mavic3 footage looks best??
the air2s is clearly smoother
m3 has a lot more static and noise
On TH-cam, but maybe on his 10 bit monitor it looks better.
Yes i agree. Air 2 S looks best.
@@barryp8145 --- are you BLIND??
why are you automatically parroting what he said??
@@SDsc0rch Chill out it’s drone. He has no reason to lie to you. Also do you seriously think you get to see true image quality on TH-cam?
@@barryp8145 you're a drone
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So this is why my shadows always look like crap xD
Thanks Stewart for this latest video but you call it . Steward and Alina .????where is Alina ! False advertising . 😂 LOL cheers mat .
Tell me about it! Not to worry, Alina will be returning to our screens soon!!
Is bollocks a swear word over there?
The Mini 3 shoots 10 bit???!
Yes
All cameras shoots on a higher bit than what they deliver. The raw file can be 16bits. The render file you get from a camera is 8bits and higher. Now, the video bits from the Mini is just a fake 10bits (256/1024=10bits). What the camera capture is based in a 8bit quality and in camera conversation can be any bits. Always try to exposure right the shot no matters what bit you get from the camera. You can accomplish the same fake 10bit footage in post with fx.
It should have minimum 422 compression at 10bit - anything else is just a deception package!
This artefacts have nothing to do with 8 or 10bit :D
True!
Here I am, together with 98% of you, watching this in a 8-bit panel smartphone/laptop, where it woul all look the same 8-bit anyway lol
Hello everyone
Why isn't there any actual HDR videos from the mini 3 pro on TH-cam.. plenty from the air 2s. All the videos showing 8bit vs 10bit differences yet none are actually HDR videos lol. Putting a 10bit file into a 8 bit profile is just silly. 10bit is to be used in the 10bit colourspace. Why not use the 10bit profile as THATS WHAT ITS FOR. Someone prove me wrong and show me an actual HDR video from the mini 3 pro ...and not with a description like all the videos but one that actually triggers HDR on a oled tv.
If you show the difference between 8 bit and 10bit but you are in a 8bit colourspace then what are we talking about here? 8bit HDR lookalike? I cannot find a single video using proper 10bit yet there are so many from the air2s the mavic 3 and even the mavic 2 pro
Lol, f*CK 8 bit in low light specially small sensors, can't really do decent exposure adjustment without destroying the footage.