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*uses tear stick* “I’m sorry my dearest students, I’ve made a severe mistake. The shiny odds aren’t one in four-thousand but in fact one in four-thousand-ninety-six.” -Jacq
Jacq made a mistake as a teacher. What if the children believed him and tried shiny hunting thinking its 1 in 4000. They would be devastated. I auggest a sentence of misinformation.
@@charnalk5572not to mention the reason for the I and V being shiny is because shiny pokemon on Gen 2 will always have specific DV value. Unown forms are *based* on this value, thus only Unown that can have these values can be shiny. And the Pokémon with the right DVs are Unown I and Unown V. Completely coincidental. Another odd thing, some Pokémon with specific gender ratio can't be shiny in gen 2, I think I heard...? Something about shinyness based on personality value that overlaps with gender or something, I don't fully remember.
@@moonskunkie they did not have an official term, multiple Names were Used Unofficially at Gamefreak and other associated groups but their was no Officially Term.
@@TheGameMage_ Such an idiotic statement. No they have always been known as shiny pokemon as stated above "shining pokemon were apart of the TCG. Just because gamefreak didn't say hey these pokemon are shiny doesn't make it not official. If we are going to hold it to that standard I'm sure we can find a few hundred things that are common sense but aren't official yet.
@@Ultimatelocke 1. Rude 2. Just because the TCG called them Shining, does not mean anything. The Debug menu for gold and silver called them "rare", stadium 2 called them color pokemon, in Gen 3's easy cheat system they were referred to as Alt. Color. While TCG called them Shining. Which is different from the word Shiny, it's close but as I said before no official term was picked.
If you want to breed shiny pokemon in generation 2, there's an easy trick to obtain a shiny ditto. You trade the red gyarados to red/blue, encounter a ditto, let it transform and then catch it. The caught ditto retains the stats of the pokemon it transformed into, so noe if you trsde the ditto to gen 2, you have a shiny ditto for easy breeding.
I think ditto has to use transform then has to use mimic to copy this stats or something. THEN you can catch the ditto and its stats will show as shiny in gen 2. Once in gen 2 that ditto can breed with most everything in gen 1 and 2 for shiny odds of 1/64 other than legendaries and genderlese pokemon.
@@Livvvidyes you need to teach shiny gyrados mimic and I think remove all it's other moves. Then you battle a ditto, use mimic to copy the move transform onto the shiny. Ditto will transform into gyrados and then use transform again, and then you catch it. For some reason using transform more than once permanently changes its stats to that of the pokemon it transforms into, and since stats determined shinyness the ditto would become shiny. I remember doing this and breeding for a shiny charizard. I was slightly disappointed when i realized it was purple.
The gen 2 shiny breeding thing is kind of unique since it does put the whole fact that shinies are a recesive gene, so a shiny breeding with a pokemon that could have the heterozygous genes for shiny color could make it easier to have offspring become shiny... It is a very interesting method, and if it was in modern pokemon, I wonder if it would stack with stuff like shiny charm and Mesudo method, but you'll need a shiny for that
@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440 no it only worked this way in gen 2 because a pokemon being shiny was based on its stats, and with breeding the pokemon hatched are likely to have similar stats as their parents. Breeding still works much the same way but a pokemon being shiny is no longer based on its stats after gen 2.
Ok, an explanation 8 months later on the genetic reasoning being weird is that it isn't a 1/4 chance, but one in sixty-four chance, so it would be a whole different genepool setup than we casually know, instead of 2 factors, it would likely be 16 of them (instead of something like XX, Xx, or xx, it could end up with something like XxxXxXxxXXXxxxxX, very long indeed). And if the genetical part is what makes a shiny Pokémon, then having 2 shinies means you can basically have infinite shinies at your will power, since they both only have the resesive genes, so no Heterozygous combinations could be possible.
Saddening to know that everyone in Paldea loses out 2.34375% of their shiny encounters. They may live in a world where monsters go into pockets but Jacq is the real monster
You know, most players probably lose about that much if not more of their shinies because there are no visual or audio for when shiny pops up And if you walk just outside of its range its gone forever so most players probably failed shinies without even knowing This is however even worse in gen 8 where the pokemon dont even show up shiny in the overworld but are already shiny checked. Meaning statistically speaking, most players would have missed a shiny that they just never encountered in a random route or wild area
@@charnalk5572 I think the only reason why itnhappens is cause shinyness used to be based on the DVs, which had chances to be inherited, and that's also why the gender ratio mattered, as gender was also based on the DVs. (Male pokemon had better attack, for example, while females had better special attack) This changed in Gen 3 when both are decided thanks to Personality
The thing was that those same DVs that made the Pokémon shiny was also what made them weaker than their regular forms could be, although this may change somewhat with a soon to be possible tradeback form
@@21kClxoudyNo, DV. Determined Value. They were IVs before the modern iteration. EVs are effort values, which are earned from battling and defeating Pokémon. Meaning it should have been stupidly obvious it wasn't EV's, since if it was then Pokémon could 'earn' shint status. 🙄 If you're gonna correct someone, at least be fucking correct.
Another fun fact. Prior to Gen 3 hidden power type and Shiny form was based on the Pokémon’s IV’s. This means that The only hidden power type a shiny Pokémon can have is either grass or dragon
I know it wasn't released when this was uploaded but in the SV DLC teal mask, the mini game upon getting all the difficulties done will give u a Shiny Munchlax Nice to have 6 now
While Gen 3 technically doesn’t have any methods of increasing shiny odds, there are two Pokémon whose odds of being shiny can differ: the event Jirachi from the Colosseum bonus disk has slightly above average shiny odds, and due to the way unown’s form is determined, depending on your trainer and secret ID, the shiny odds for each form can vary wildly.
Second shiny I ever saw was a shiny Jirachi from the Colosseum bonus disc. 9 year old me couldn't believe how lucky I was. Still kicking myself for allowing my GameCube game collection to get all scratched up
Something funny to note: Gen 1 Pokemon actually could be shiny, although it isnt shown in the Games itself. The reason some Pokemon are shiny is linked to I THINK (dont remember exactly) their IVs, so technically you could catch a shiny pokemon in red, transfer it to silver and it could be shiny
In Generation 1 if you are as a Pokemon you already know is shiny mimic a Dittos transform, and you can have the ditto Transformers second time copying the IVs which means that then if you transfer it into a generation 2 game that it is shiny so there is a another way to get increased shiny odds in gen 1 making gen3 the only one
@@SoggyBuckets it could be useful for shiny breeding in generation 2 as if you breed a Pokemon with one of the parents as a shining it would have increased chances of becoming a Shiny Pokemon, and also who doesn't love free legal shiny ditto
I believe there's an exploit you can do to make it so you can collect multiple eggs from the daycare man increasing your odds for a shiny significantly since you'll be hatching multiple eggs with the increased rate
Actually, there is a way to use glitches for a shiny ditto in gen 1 by transferring a shiny backwards- If a ditto uses transform twice in gen 1, it copies the IVs, which were used to determine shinies back then.
I still remember finding a few shinies back in Sapphire unfortunately the Zubat I found was too weak it took a crit and died and the few other shinies usually Geodude or Gravler used self-destruct
Crazy. The only shiny I ever found in game through normal play (and I've been playing Pokemon for thousands of hours since Blue in 1998) was a Zubat in Sapphire. I kept that Crobat with me for years, but unfortunately my friend borrowed my copy of HeartGold when we were in college and deleted all my childhood mons. I'm still kinda salty about it.
In Sun and Moon there's an NPC outside of the Game Freak office that says your shiny odds are about 4000 to one, but he still has the same line after you get the shiny charm
a bit of an addition : the only pokémon that can be " shiny " in the gen 3 remake demos is the mid-stage starter you receive at the beginning of the demo . everything else ( beside steven's metagross , of course ) is shiny locked !
You technically can get a shiny in Gen 1, a shiny is a perfect stat Pokémon in Gen 1 so if you do specific stuff in the mansion you can get a special Pokémon that if you bring over to Gen 2 it will be shiny
@theccarbiter "gen 1 had shinies" no gen 1 did not lol. You can also trade certain glitch pokemon from gen 1 to gen 2, and they will turn into gen 2 pokemon. This does not mean that the gen 1 games had gen 2 pokemon.
@@DVNGXR yeah so shinies are determined by dvs in gen 2 so if you had a pokemon in gen 1 with those dvs then theyre a shiny, but sure man keep doing mental gymnastics to think otherwise
@theccarbiter they were not shiny in gen 1, because shiny pokemon did not exist in gen 1. The mechanic was not added until gen 2. It's like saying that steel pokemon existed in gen 1 because if you transfer a magneton to gen 2, it becomes steel type.
Correction about base shiny odds: Jacq is actually correct. Though it's not listed on Bulbapedia, odds were increased to a flat 1/4000 in generation 8.
Now with the two DLCs for Gen 9, I believe the amount of guaranteed shinies is 7 with munchlax in the ogre ousting game and blitzle for trading with director cyrano
Gen 2 was where I first played Pokémon, (loved it ever since.) but I was very much confused when my friends told me that, in gen 9, you can’t breed shinies for a 1/64 chance.
I recall something about Gen 1 and stats where if you take a shiny from Gen 2, trade it to Gen 1, and have a Ditto transform into it, the Ditto will have the stats required to be shiny.
I once caught a shiny spoink in Ruby/ Sapphire. It was near that hot spring down that ledge of the forest down where team Magma/ Aqua was. My memory is a bit blur on the area but I was flabbergasted.
Kinda wish they kept breeding shinies. In nature, genetics dictate that certain traits or mutations get passed down at different rates. Having a shiny Pokémon breed with a non-shiny should increase the odds of having a shiny offspring.
The gen 3 remake’s demo were like the Minecraft Xbox 360 tutorial world, nostalgic asf, I’m in a play through of alpha sapphire right now in fact! My favorite Pokémon game (ORAS)
I got a shiny zubat in Pokemon emrald game . Completely random didn't expected and didn't loved as well. The location was the town with second gym and the cave in which Steven wait for u to deliver his mail.
I feel like Jacq not knowing the exact chance is only to be expected, since the only way he would know is to look at a lot of Pokemon and keep track of how many are shiny, so his accuracy is honestly impressive
Gen 3 not only has no way of increasing the odds, emerald specifically has broken RNG and unless you get lucky with an early shiny frame or perform some black magic soft resetting for a shiny static encounter ain't gonna work
The unown are the same reason why spinda used to have patterns always guranteed shiny or not back in gen 3, they used to use personality values for shinies which are used for spinda patterns and unown forms, but after a certain gen they started using something else for shiny chances
That isnt an event That is literally the progression of pokemon Crystal You get the egg shortly after the 2nd badge. Also that isnt Japan only, but the International versions of the game only have a ~14% chance to be shiny
i recall mentions of a glitch in gen 2 that involved trading the shiny Gyarados to gen 1, using it in battle against a ditto, and catching said ditto to trade back up, and the Ditto would be shiny and can be used for breeding. i don't remember all the steps because i read this like a decade ago. all i know it had to do with copying DVs
so fun fact the reason unown on gen 2 only had shinies in it's i and v forms was because both shiny status and unown letter are tied to IVs in gen 2, for this same reason you couldn't get a shiny female starter from the professor because there was a fixed set of IVs the starters could have and of the gender bit (which was stored along side the IV data) was female non of these IVs would line up with a Shiny IV
There's also a really weird glitch to force shinies in gen 1/2. In gen 1, you can make ditto transform twice, and it actually makes the IVs the same across the battle. You can nab shiny gyrados in gen 2, send it back to gen 1 using the time machine/capsule, then encounter a wild ditto. If the ditto uses transform twice in the battle, then you catch it, it's IVs will be the same as the shiny gyrados, and since gen 2 shinies were determined by IVs, you basically have a guaranteed shiny ditto to use as shiny breeding fodder
the shiny chances are rounded by the professor to make more sense, its more like an estimate and wouldnt be logical if he gave a weird number like 4096, and the game had allot more of an ecosystem they tried to really tie the characters into the world and make it a little more alive, makes real life sense that he would say something like “around 1 in 4000” instead of exact amounts like he had something to do with it
TIL about the shiny dragons in Unova. I played the crap out of those games over the years and never knew. Also I literally just found a shiny Ponyta in USUM the other day and I was so excited so I'm a bit bummed to learn that Ponyta is one of the few Pokemon available as a guaranteed shiny somewhere in the series.
Jacq: There is a rumor about a charm that makes finding shiny Pokémon easier by just having it in your bag! Me trying to complete the dex knowing damn well he has it:
Okay, but Jacq basically could not have known the shiny rate perfectly, imagine being that close to a number that is that hard to measure. Like, there are probably not that many shiny Pokémon living in paldea, and a lot of the ones that are have hardly noticeable shinies, which means he (or someone else) managed to estimate the number and got within 100 of it.
Tbh in gen 3 or at least emerald it had the whole thing with manipulating early frames and always guaranteeing a shiny if you entered battle at a fixed frame
if you trade a shiny pokémon from gen 2 to gen 1 (including the red gyarados) you can perform a pretty simple glitch to catch a guaranteed shiny ditto when it's traded back to gen 2. that ditto can then be used for shiny breeding. if the OT of the ditto is different from the trainer name in the gen 2 game the breeding process will be faster
fun fact, generation 1 does have shinies, it's just programed to be generated the same way as in generation 2 and there is no visual. so you can shiny hunt in gen 1 or use 8f glitch to perform ace (arbitrary code execution) to make a pokemon shiny by changing its dv's
It's cool that unknown I and V were the only ones that could be shiny since shiny chance used to be based off the IVs of your pokemon, not random chance
As a soon to be graduate with an education degree: Saying shiny odds are about 1/4000 is basically the same as explaining that Pi is 3.14. Both are technically incorrect but they're easier to say and when you're looking at their use cases they work just as well. You wanna know the % difference between 1/4000 and 1/4092? 0.00056207% which i feel like i don't need to describe why the difference is basically negligible right? Also take into account that pokemon in the pokemon world are wild creatures under study, and the scientists can't tell the EXACT number for odds as theyd have to go on tests and data to come close to the answer. We know the exact odds because this is a game and we can read the code that says those are the odds, but in actual scientific testings there's basically no way to be that accurate for these creatures. So 1/4000 is just the best way to say it by rounding to an even number that can fairly quickly be made sense of, instead of a maybe slightly closer number that is more complex
with the scarlet and violet indigo disk dlc, you receive a shiny blitzle if you complete every single league club trade (which isn’t hard just BP grinding)
fun fact: there is actually shinys in gen 1 you can only check if they are shiny if you catch theme and check their stats then, if you are playing on the 3ds version of the game, you can transfer them in pokemon bank :)
I want a public apology from Jacq with tears.
time to get the ukelele out /j
@@starrynight579💀
I have made a severe lapse in judgement
*sets up camera*
*sighs*
“I didn’t want to have to do this, but”
*uses tear stick*
“I’m sorry my dearest students, I’ve made a severe mistake. The shiny odds aren’t one in four-thousand but in fact one in four-thousand-ninety-six.”
-Jacq
Jacq made a mistake as a teacher. What if the children believed him and tried shiny hunting thinking its 1 in 4000. They would be devastated. I auggest a sentence of misinformation.
Especially if you have the shiny charm, which brings it down even more so, meaning that 1/4000 is even more wrong. Absolute misinformation.
@@spatial_rind😅
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In gen 2 a Pokémon's IV stats determine if it's shiny or not, so it's kinda cool that they made it so only the I and V forms of Unown can be shiny
Individual values was named after the 2 unknown rather than the other way around
@@boserboser6870oh, cool
Nevertheless, a very funny coincidence
When I transferred all my Pokémon from the old games I ended up getting 1 shiny this way was pretty cool
@@charnalk5572not to mention the reason for the I and V being shiny is because shiny pokemon on Gen 2 will always have specific DV value. Unown forms are *based* on this value, thus only Unown that can have these values can be shiny. And the Pokémon with the right DVs are Unown I and Unown V. Completely coincidental.
Another odd thing, some Pokémon with specific gender ratio can't be shiny in gen 2, I think I heard...? Something about shinyness based on personality value that overlaps with gender or something, I don't fully remember.
fun fact: a guy in a building in gen 7 tells you that the odds of finding a shiny pokemon are 1/4000 as well!
Love your pfp
@@TheAuthenticBlueTheBudew there's two of them !
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@@Pigeon_lollcrazy? I was crazy once
Lol
Fun fact: until gen 5 the term Shiny was a just a Fan Term, prior to gen 5 their was no official term for Shiny Pokemon.
Incorrect, actually. They were called "Shining" in the Pokemon TCG, so they did have an official name before Gen V.
@@moonskunkie they did not have an official term, multiple Names were Used Unofficially at Gamefreak and other associated groups but their was no Officially Term.
@@TheGameMage_ Such an idiotic statement.
No they have always been known as shiny pokemon as stated above "shining pokemon were apart of the TCG. Just because gamefreak didn't say hey these pokemon are shiny doesn't make it not official.
If we are going to hold it to that standard I'm sure we can find a few hundred things that are common sense but aren't official yet.
@@Ultimatelocke
1. Rude
2. Just because the TCG called them Shining, does not mean anything. The Debug menu for gold and silver called them "rare", stadium 2 called them color pokemon, in Gen 3's easy cheat system they were referred to as Alt. Color.
While TCG called them Shining.
Which is different from the word Shiny, it's close but as I said before no official term was picked.
@@TheGameMage_ Beyond stupid.
I remember the first shiny I ever saw was Wally’s ralts. Most painful tutorial of my life😂
I’m so sorry 💀💀☠️☠️
My very first Shiney was hoothoot
Does it stay shiny for the rest of the game?
@@christinefarrell6438no, trainer’s pokemon are shinylocked sadly
NO IT A COOL SHINY TOO
If you want to breed shiny pokemon in generation 2, there's an easy trick to obtain a shiny ditto. You trade the red gyarados to red/blue, encounter a ditto, let it transform and then catch it. The caught ditto retains the stats of the pokemon it transformed into, so noe if you trsde the ditto to gen 2, you have a shiny ditto for easy breeding.
I think ditto has to use transform then has to use mimic to copy this stats or something. THEN you can catch the ditto and its stats will show as shiny in gen 2.
Once in gen 2 that ditto can breed with most everything in gen 1 and 2 for shiny odds of 1/64 other than legendaries and genderlese pokemon.
@@Livvvidyes you need to teach shiny gyrados mimic and I think remove all it's other moves. Then you battle a ditto, use mimic to copy the move transform onto the shiny. Ditto will transform into gyrados and then use transform again, and then you catch it. For some reason using transform more than once permanently changes its stats to that of the pokemon it transforms into, and since stats determined shinyness the ditto would become shiny. I remember doing this and breeding for a shiny charizard. I was slightly disappointed when i realized it was purple.
@DVNGXR yeah thats it.
And yeah the old shinies are sometimes dissapointing but there are a few that are better than current gen
I tried It many times when i Discovered This trick and... Didnt work 😅😅
The gen 2 shiny breeding thing is kind of unique since it does put the whole fact that shinies are a recesive gene, so a shiny breeding with a pokemon that could have the heterozygous genes for shiny color could make it easier to have offspring become shiny... It is a very interesting method, and if it was in modern pokemon, I wonder if it would stack with stuff like shiny charm and Mesudo method, but you'll need a shiny for that
It works best with a shiny ditto as i THINK it turns the odds to 1/64. Although possible, trading up a pokemon to new generations is hard :(
It would be great since I have a shiny ditto that I got when I played through usum in French 😂
I wonder if the method works in new gens
@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440 no it only worked this way in gen 2 because a pokemon being shiny was based on its stats, and with breeding the pokemon hatched are likely to have similar stats as their parents. Breeding still works much the same way but a pokemon being shiny is no longer based on its stats after gen 2.
Ok, an explanation 8 months later on the genetic reasoning being weird is that it isn't a 1/4 chance, but one in sixty-four chance, so it would be a whole different genepool setup than we casually know, instead of 2 factors, it would likely be 16 of them (instead of something like XX, Xx, or xx, it could end up with something like XxxXxXxxXXXxxxxX, very long indeed). And if the genetical part is what makes a shiny Pokémon, then having 2 shinies means you can basically have infinite shinies at your will power, since they both only have the resesive genes, so no Heterozygous combinations could be possible.
Saddening to know that everyone in Paldea loses out 2.34375% of their shiny encounters. They may live in a world where monsters go into pockets but Jacq is the real monster
If Jacq is a monster, just shove him in your pockets with the others 🤷♂️
Nah it's Mindy
You know, most players probably lose about that much if not more of their shinies because there are no visual or audio for when shiny pops up
And if you walk just outside of its range its gone forever so most players probably failed shinies without even knowing
This is however even worse in gen 8 where the pokemon dont even show up shiny in the overworld but are already shiny checked. Meaning statistically speaking, most players would have missed a shiny that they just never encountered in a random route or wild area
Kinda wish they kept that shiny breeding method from gen 2, it would’ve made breeding for competitive shinies or even shinies in general wayyy easier
But shinies suppose to be a rare thing. Anyways, in PLA and SV it became very easy to shiny hunt
@@charnalk5572 I think the only reason why itnhappens is cause shinyness used to be based on the DVs, which had chances to be inherited, and that's also why the gender ratio mattered, as gender was also based on the DVs. (Male pokemon had better attack, for example, while females had better special attack)
This changed in Gen 3 when both are decided thanks to Personality
@@mertensiam3384*EVs
The thing was that those same DVs that made the Pokémon shiny was also what made them weaker than their regular forms could be, although this may change somewhat with a soon to be possible tradeback form
@@21kClxoudyNo, DV. Determined Value. They were IVs before the modern iteration.
EVs are effort values, which are earned from battling and defeating Pokémon.
Meaning it should have been stupidly obvious it wasn't EV's, since if it was then Pokémon could 'earn' shint status. 🙄
If you're gonna correct someone, at least be fucking correct.
Another fun fact. Prior to Gen 3 hidden power type and Shiny form was based on the Pokémon’s IV’s. This means that The only hidden power type a shiny Pokémon can have is either grass or dragon
and because unown letters are determined by their IVs the only shiny unown you could get were either I or V
Fun that the only Unown who can be shiny are the I and V 😂😂😂
I know it wasn't released when this was uploaded but in the SV DLC teal mask, the mini game upon getting all the difficulties done will give u a Shiny Munchlax
Nice to have 6 now
And fighting all the coaches unlocks a secret boss who gives you a shiny Blitzle, so that's 7
They should bring the shiny breeding back because it just makes sence
I think that part about breeding with a shiny increasing the odds of it making another shiny makes sense and should come back.
Gen 1 did have shinies, it's just very rare and you can only see if they are shiny by transferring them to another gen
While Gen 3 technically doesn’t have any methods of increasing shiny odds, there are two Pokémon whose odds of being shiny can differ: the event Jirachi from the Colosseum bonus disk has slightly above average shiny odds, and due to the way unown’s form is determined, depending on your trainer and secret ID, the shiny odds for each form can vary wildly.
Second shiny I ever saw was a shiny Jirachi from the Colosseum bonus disc. 9 year old me couldn't believe how lucky I was.
Still kicking myself for allowing my GameCube game collection to get all scratched up
Jacq was only off by 2.4% (of 4098). 98% is not a B-.
A-
@@jozefvitani943498% is usually either an A or a non-perfect A+
@@brimfire7536perfect is still A. If a school does an A+ its usually only over 100%. Atleast the schools ive been in
@@SEAkuaain my experience, either A+ doesn't exist or it's in the range 97-100
This is testing how accurate the professor is, and most accuracy tests have a +/- 5% leeway
The one about jacq is an “Um Actually 🤓” moment
"it's ackshually 1/4096" 🤓☝️
Breeding a shiny SHOULD increase odds like that, it's literally how genetics work.
Jacq was simply trying to encourage his students by making them believe that shinies were more common than they think, no harm in hope
Something funny to note: Gen 1 Pokemon actually could be shiny, although it isnt shown in the Games itself. The reason some Pokemon are shiny is linked to I THINK (dont remember exactly) their IVs, so technically you could catch a shiny pokemon in red, transfer it to silver and it could be shiny
Kinda wish Pokemon existed in real life, would be great companions
All fun In games until Pokemon like Giratina, Eternatus, and Drifloon become real.
And lovers
read gyarados's dex entries
Insert Gardevoir and Vaporeon comment here
Everybody gangsta till hypno shows up to the playground
In Generation 1 if you are as a Pokemon you already know is shiny mimic a Dittos transform, and you can have the ditto Transformers second time copying the IVs which means that then if you transfer it into a generation 2 game that it is shiny so there is a another way to get increased shiny odds in gen 1 making gen3 the only one
What is blud waffling about??? 😭💀
@@SoggyBuckets it could be useful for shiny breeding in generation 2 as if you breed a Pokemon with one of the parents as a shining it would have increased chances of becoming a Shiny Pokemon, and also who doesn't love free legal shiny ditto
@@ShiningScarlet nice
Crystal also had a 1/8 chance for the egg that the daycare man gave you to be shiny (once per save file)
I believe there's an exploit you can do to make it so you can collect multiple eggs from the daycare man increasing your odds for a shiny significantly since you'll be hatching multiple eggs with the increased rate
‘Gen 3 has no methods of increasing the odds of finding shinies’
*laughs in rng manipulation*
The colosseum bonus disc for jirachi has a limited number of spreads so it actually has a slightly higher odds of 1/7000ish
This makes it the only method hunt for gen 3
"the shiny chance is 1/4000"
*the huge ass sandwich in my bag*
Gen 3 has 2 method hunts in it actually. Unown and Jirachi from the bonus disc.
I love that I found my old heart gold game Red Garry you're coming home!
Actually, there is a way to use glitches for a shiny ditto in gen 1 by transferring a shiny backwards- If a ditto uses transform twice in gen 1, it copies the IVs, which were used to determine shinies back then.
This is the first time that i learned something new from a facts about pokemon Video. Respect!
I still remember finding a few shinies back in Sapphire unfortunately the Zubat I found was too weak it took a crit and died and the few other shinies usually Geodude or Gravler used self-destruct
Crazy. The only shiny I ever found in game through normal play (and I've been playing Pokemon for thousands of hours since Blue in 1998) was a Zubat in Sapphire. I kept that Crobat with me for years, but unfortunately my friend borrowed my copy of HeartGold when we were in college and deleted all my childhood mons. I'm still kinda salty about it.
In Sun and Moon there's an NPC outside of the Game Freak office that says your shiny odds are about 4000 to one, but he still has the same line after you get the shiny charm
Crying rn over the fact that he pronounced jacq as "jack"
Tf is it supposed to be 😂
@@rims38Look up how the french pronounce 'j'
a bit of an addition : the only pokémon that can be " shiny " in the gen 3 remake demos is the mid-stage starter you receive at the beginning of the demo . everything else ( beside steven's metagross , of course ) is shiny locked !
You technically can get a shiny in Gen 1, a shiny is a perfect stat Pokémon in Gen 1 so if you do specific stuff in the mansion you can get a special Pokémon that if you bring over to Gen 2 it will be shiny
I was thinking about this too. Not all gen 1 Pokémon can be shiny though because of how the stats will work out on transfer.
They definitely should have kept the "breeding with a shiny increases shiny odds" method
Gen 1 had shinies, you just wouldn’t know until it was traded to a gen 2 game
No they didn't. Pokemon with the correct stats become shiny when traded into gen 2.
@@DVNGXR yes thats exactly what i said...
@theccarbiter "gen 1 had shinies" no gen 1 did not lol.
You can also trade certain glitch pokemon from gen 1 to gen 2, and they will turn into gen 2 pokemon. This does not mean that the gen 1 games had gen 2 pokemon.
@@DVNGXR yeah so shinies are determined by dvs in gen 2 so if you had a pokemon in gen 1 with those dvs then theyre a shiny, but sure man keep doing mental gymnastics to think otherwise
@theccarbiter they were not shiny in gen 1, because shiny pokemon did not exist in gen 1. The mechanic was not added until gen 2.
It's like saying that steel pokemon existed in gen 1 because if you transfer a magneton to gen 2, it becomes steel type.
I think unown I and V being the only shinies is a reference to IV’s determining shiny odds in the early generations
I'm pretty sure in ORAS Steven gives you a shiny Beldum
That was a limited time event when ORAS came out.
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He didnt include any events (such as the shiny Beldum), cause there would be too many guaranteed shinies to list
@@julienbronsch5039would there be too many? With only 1000 pokemon species, I'm sure you can name all guaranteed shines in a minute, if you're quick
@@teeweezevenwouldn't make for a good snappy short tho...
the intro just activated my fight or flight response
In the Let's go games pokemon actually do appear in the overworld shiny and in battle. Caught my first shiny kakuna that way.
He said in the Lets Go *Demos*
In Sun and Moon, there's a character on Akala Island next to the Game freak Office that tells you the same thing
Correction about base shiny odds: Jacq is actually correct. Though it's not listed on Bulbapedia, odds were increased to a flat 1/4000 in generation 8.
But they.... they literally weren't?
Nah
Why you lying?
...source?
Now with the two DLCs for Gen 9, I believe the amount of guaranteed shinies is 7 with munchlax in the ogre ousting game and blitzle for trading with director cyrano
Gen 2 was where I first played Pokémon, (loved it ever since.) but I was very much confused when my friends told me that, in gen 9, you can’t breed shinies for a 1/64 chance.
that unknown fact is pretty good ngl
Those are some sick garrenteed shinys ngl
HAIL YEA SHINY WINTER CASTFORM!
I recall something about Gen 1 and stats where if you take a shiny from Gen 2, trade it to Gen 1, and have a Ditto transform into it, the Ditto will have the stats required to be shiny.
I think the only reason professor jacq lied was because saying 1/4000 sounds more realistic for someone to say that 1/4096
I once caught a shiny spoink in Ruby/ Sapphire. It was near that hot spring down that ledge of the forest down where team Magma/ Aqua was. My memory is a bit blur on the area but I was flabbergasted.
I hate the Jacq fact.
Hes a real in world scientist.
How the hell is he meant to know the actual chance built into the fabric of his universe!?
Gen 2 having 1/64 odds of shinies in eggs
Pokémon Go: allow me to introduce myself
Kinda wish they kept breeding shinies. In nature, genetics dictate that certain traits or mutations get passed down at different rates. Having a shiny Pokémon breed with a non-shiny should increase the odds of having a shiny offspring.
The gen 3 remake’s demo were like the Minecraft Xbox 360 tutorial world, nostalgic asf, I’m in a play through of alpha sapphire right now in fact! My favorite Pokémon game (ORAS)
I forgive Jacq since he probably doesn't know the real numbers. Only by experimenting he knows its about 1/4000
I wasn't even playing pokemon and that shiny sound sent me into a fight or flight XD
I got a shiny zubat in Pokemon emrald game . Completely random didn't expected and didn't loved as well. The location was the town with second gym and the cave in which Steven wait for u to deliver his mail.
I can just imagine a student in Jacq’s class going: “umMm, AcKTUaLlY, iTs 1/4096”
I feel like Jacq not knowing the exact chance is only to be expected, since the only way he would know is to look at a lot of Pokemon and keep track of how many are shiny, so his accuracy is honestly impressive
Gen 3 not only has no way of increasing the odds, emerald specifically has broken RNG and unless you get lucky with an early shiny frame or perform some black magic soft resetting for a shiny static encounter ain't gonna work
I and very shiny is a reference to the fact that if you were to transfer certain iv pokemon from red blue to game with colour
In Gold/Silver/Crystal, the egg from the pokemon mansion has the 14% of chance to contain a shiny baby pokemon
The unown are the same reason why spinda used to have patterns always guranteed shiny or not back in gen 3, they used to use personality values for shinies which are used for spinda patterns and unown forms, but after a certain gen they started using something else for shiny chances
Gen 2 had an event in Japan where an odd egg was distributed. It would hatch into one of the new baby Pokémon and had insanely high shiny odds
That isnt an event
That is literally the progression of pokemon Crystal
You get the egg shortly after the 2nd badge.
Also that isnt Japan only, but the International versions of the game only have a ~14% chance to be shiny
I will never forget the shiny pokemon i transfered from my gen 1 game into gen 2
i recall mentions of a glitch in gen 2 that involved trading the shiny Gyarados to gen 1, using it in battle against a ditto, and catching said ditto to trade back up, and the Ditto would be shiny and can be used for breeding. i don't remember all the steps because i read this like a decade ago. all i know it had to do with copying DVs
You can technically get shinies in gen 1 but you wouldn't know until you traded them to a gen 2 game
I think jacq was rounding it out so he probably knows it's 4096 or its a honest mistake from jacq.
so fun fact the reason unown on gen 2 only had shinies in it's i and v forms was because both shiny status and unown letter are tied to IVs in gen 2, for this same reason you couldn't get a shiny female starter from the professor because there was a fixed set of IVs the starters could have and of the gender bit (which was stored along side the IV data) was female non of these IVs would line up with a Shiny IV
Alright in making a shiny breeding factory, im gonna crash the rates of shiny found in wild
They should bring back henetics affecting shiny odds , maybe not on a super extreme scale to keep them rare, but at least a little
i just started a rerun on pokemon black a few days ago and haxorus’ shiny sprite is majestic
There's also a really weird glitch to force shinies in gen 1/2. In gen 1, you can make ditto transform twice, and it actually makes the IVs the same across the battle. You can nab shiny gyrados in gen 2, send it back to gen 1 using the time machine/capsule, then encounter a wild ditto. If the ditto uses transform twice in the battle, then you catch it, it's IVs will be the same as the shiny gyrados, and since gen 2 shinies were determined by IVs, you basically have a guaranteed shiny ditto to use as shiny breeding fodder
the shiny chances are rounded by the professor to make more sense, its more like an estimate and wouldnt be logical if he gave a weird number like 4096, and the game had allot more of an ecosystem they tried to really tie the characters into the world and make it a little more alive, makes real life sense that he would say something like “around 1 in 4000” instead of exact amounts like he had something to do with it
As someone who loved playing Gen 3 and the remakes the most I hated getting shiny Swablu and Beldum. Literally wanted to break my fingers
TIL about the shiny dragons in Unova. I played the crap out of those games over the years and never knew.
Also I literally just found a shiny Ponyta in USUM the other day and I was so excited so I'm a bit bummed to learn that Ponyta is one of the few Pokemon available as a guaranteed shiny somewhere in the series.
Now there’s the guaranteed shiny Munchlax on SV ✨
I think its really funny how I and V are the only shiny Unown in Gen 2 because Shininess relies on IVs.
Jacq: There is a rumor about a charm that makes finding shiny Pokémon easier by just having it in your bag!
Me trying to complete the dex knowing damn well he has it:
Makes that shiny tentacruel I found when I was 14 in sapphire even cooler. It's crazy how easy it is now in scarlet and violet.
It’s outrageous how Jacq rounded down the shiny odds, grr we were tricked to think that shiny Pokémon were easy to get!
Okay, but Jacq basically could not have known the shiny rate perfectly, imagine being that close to a number that is that hard to measure. Like, there are probably not that many shiny Pokémon living in paldea, and a lot of the ones that are have hardly noticeable shinies, which means he (or someone else) managed to estimate the number and got within 100 of it.
Tbh in gen 3 or at least emerald it had the whole thing with manipulating early frames and always guaranteeing a shiny if you entered battle at a fixed frame
if you trade a shiny pokémon from gen 2 to gen 1 (including the red gyarados) you can perform a pretty simple glitch to catch a guaranteed shiny ditto when it's traded back to gen 2. that ditto can then be used for shiny breeding. if the OT of the ditto is different from the trainer name in the gen 2 game the breeding process will be faster
Vanity pure and simple. 🎉
fun fact, generation 1 does have shinies, it's just programed to be generated the same way as in generation 2 and there is no visual. so you can shiny hunt in gen 1 or use 8f glitch to perform ace (arbitrary code execution) to make a pokemon shiny by changing its dv's
The new slogan... You gotta breed them alll
if only the jhoto breeding mechanic still worked..
Looking back,i realised how lucky i was when i caught a shiny swablu in gen 3 when I didn't even know what a shiny Pokemon was
It's cool that unknown I and V were the only ones that could be shiny since shiny chance used to be based off the IVs of your pokemon, not random chance
Fun Fact: The shiny Castform weather forms were first made available in Pokémon Go
As a soon to be graduate with an education degree:
Saying shiny odds are about 1/4000 is basically the same as explaining that Pi is 3.14. Both are technically incorrect but they're easier to say and when you're looking at their use cases they work just as well.
You wanna know the % difference between 1/4000 and 1/4092? 0.00056207% which i feel like i don't need to describe why the difference is basically negligible right?
Also take into account that pokemon in the pokemon world are wild creatures under study, and the scientists can't tell the EXACT number for odds as theyd have to go on tests and data to come close to the answer. We know the exact odds because this is a game and we can read the code that says those are the odds, but in actual scientific testings there's basically no way to be that accurate for these creatures. So 1/4000 is just the best way to say it by rounding to an even number that can fairly quickly be made sense of, instead of a maybe slightly closer number that is more complex
Another fact is gen 1 shinies do exist via certain stats and IV however not actually having a shiny sprite it won’t appear shiny unless traded
with the scarlet and violet indigo disk dlc, you receive a shiny blitzle if you complete every single league club trade (which isn’t hard just BP grinding)
I once saw a shiny oddish in emerald in the safari zone. First shiny I ever saw, didn’t catch the stupid thing but it was awesome
fun fact: there is actually shinys in gen 1
you can only check if they are shiny if you catch theme and check their stats
then, if you are playing on the 3ds version of the game, you can transfer them in pokemon bank :)
Munchlax and Blitzle in dlc: Hold my sparkles