This Pokemon was Bad, Got Worse, Won a Tournament
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- Zamazenta was the laughing stock of Sword and Shield, and then going into the next Pokemon games it was intentionally made weaker. And then it won a tournament. Here's how.
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>zacian
>absurd base stats
>the best typing in the game
>ability that boosts its best stat even further
>signature move that ignores a major counter to it
>still has less usage than incineroar
💀💀💀
Meanwhile it has very low usage in singles. Singles players are just built different.
I guess it was bc Calyrex was still an extremedly broken pokemon, and Incineroar can counter it
@@axr1798 Way easier answer: Incineroar wasn't limited, Zacian was.
Zacian is a restricted legendary that hates Trick Room, so I'm not surprised it wasn't as easy to fit on a team as Incineroar.
shotout to Alfonso Gonzalez, the only guy who used Zamazenta b4 he got Body Press
Shout out to Alfonso
I has faith in the underdog
And Zamazenta even came to Alfaonso's home country in generation 9
I also have faith in the under dog
Dicks out 4 Alfonso
Here, Zamazenta is the real Zero to Hero.
And zacian did a hero to zero
He’s not the hero we deserve, but the hero we needed
The rising of the shield hero
@@indominusrex2859 Zacian flew too close to the sun with those silly wings it has.
Facts
Really makes you think what would’ve happened if Zamazenta had Body Press in Gen 8
likely would have increased it's pickrate, but due to Zacian's then dominant power it wouldn't be that high.
IMO Behemoth Bash should have also used the user's defenese for damage calcs
@@rory8182 Maybe in the first formats where Dynamax is legal but when it gets banned Zama would probably be better since it can now pivot safely due to its bulk to another Pokemon or stick on the field just like SV
My only question is why was Zacian nerfed to oblivion while the Ice- and Shadow Riders weren’t 🙄
@@slipperbeaterem iirc they weren't that used in SS since they contest Zacian's slot, and Ice Rider wasn't thought of as good until far later in the gen making them not as big of an issue since they weren't the focus of the playerbase
I like how Wolfey kept saying Zacian is a brother or king when the Pokédex says Zacian is Zamazenta’s older sister 😂
So they are waifu?
@@jcdejesus2296No....no...NOOOOOO
I mean it depends since the Pokédex is kinda not sure wether it’s a girl or boy.
@@jcdejesus2296 most of us are not in alabama so no
Hold on now, what?!
Zamazenta is the living embodiment of the expression "every dog has its day"
Absolutely based pfp
@@keqingsimp2174 Thank you 🖤
a classic underdog story
It's Zamazenta Zuesday. Every Zama has its Zenta, folks...
@@sora4440this is insane
my boy obstagoons catching strays for what ?? 😭😭😭
Existing apparently
Yeah my boi Obstagoon was a homie in my singles draft league, I get this is for doubles but why the hate for my rocker buddy :(
For being ass
For being bad
what did my man obstagoon do, he aint deserving of this hate
"Classic ghost type , Tera ghost Incenaroar" - Wolfey (13/7/24) 16:02
This had me on the floor 😂
Time stamp?
He's assuming our joke, and I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing
@@soulduelist2673 around 16 mins
7/13/2024 16:02
I really want to compliment the editor's image choices at 1:22 - using the generation appropriate pixel art for gens 3 and 4 was great!
"and the classic Ghost type, Tera-Ghost Incineroar" HAHAHAHAHAHA
The editing on these is COMPLETELY amazing, well done
i love how body press has been like a gift from god for every single physically defensive pokemon
Not Bastiodon though
Nothing can save a Rock/Steel combo. There's a reason Mega Aggron dropped the Rock typing.
love putting it on my Torkoal lol
@@gengarzilla1685yeah, Stone Edge says otherwise. Aggron is still awesome.
@FortooSP guy, that's what other mons are for. I thought we were past this.
14:47 Important note here, the weight of 463.0 lbs (210.0 kg) is for its Hero of Many Battles form. Its Crowned Shield form is a whopping 1730.6 lbs (785.0 kg).
Even better woah! 🦸♂️🛡️🐕🦺
that is one heavy shield!
@@onebear6504now let's petition to have Iron Defense make the user heavier
@@TaLeng2023 Yes! Weight is an underused stat, not just moves, there are even abilities like heavy metal and light metal or items like heavy ball all about the weight stat! With stuff like fist moves or sound or wind etc getting attention, time for weight too!
@@onebear6504 since we already have Heavy Ball and Float Stone, I think we just need more moves that deal with weight and maybe moves that increase or lower it.
Wait that “Viva La Vida” reference was so good LOL, “Be my mirror, my SWORD AND SHIELD”, “That was when I ruled the world.” The entire song is the story of Zacian’s fall.
OH YEAH i forgot about that line that just makes it seem much more relevant
OMG HES ACTUALLY THE GOAT confirmed
Idk what that is or where it's from but I guess it's a really good pun
Edit: looked it up, awesome song and fits so well!
The opening line is literally. "I used to rule the world," Which I think is great. Really just knew it all in that one statement.
i used to ruleeee the world
14:51 The dog, Zamazenta, chasing the cat, Incineroar, is perfect
18:34 Zacian being jealous of her younger brother lol
Players: Did you die?!
Zamazenta: Sadly, yes. But I lived!
It is still v viable, the hype of the Michael Zhang team being broken just wore off a bit and now it is in a little bit of a meta dip
Zamazenta: My death was, greatly, exaggerated.
it took 10 minutes for wolfe to reach the point of the video...
Zamazenta jesus
@@sampletext9426 its almost like it needed to be set up so we could understand why zamazenta's new tools were important
it’s bizarre to me that they didn’t give behemoth bash the defense-scaling property back in gen 8, especially since they didn’t give zamazenta body press
Honestly, I would have expected both. def scaling Behemoth Bash and Body Press in Sword and Shield.
That and king’s shield for the absolute most fitting candidate for the move. If only for thematic purposes.
I thought of the same thing but there is a problem with that. Both moves Behemoth Blade and Behemoth Bash are basically Iron Head that changes to these signature moves after both get their crowned form. Iron head is a physical attack but then suddenly becoming a defense scaling move might get confusing maybe that's why. I might be wrong as well.
@@teno777i cant imagine how broken it will be if zamazenta has body press, defense scaling behemoth bash and kings shield, having protect is nice, but having protect that can lower attack of a mon that make contact( specially with zamazenta's defense), now that would be something
@@jadeyumol4811 Zacian basically already had that, except for literally every single move it wanted to use. It really only loses out on King’s Shield but that doesn’t really matter if the opponent is outspend and OHKO’d anyways
Everyone said Zama would be great with Body Press even back in gen 8 and it's good to see it actually making good on that claim despite the nerfs.
Zamazenta would probably be better than zacian in sword and shield if they gave it body press. Zama with body press feels like playing a zacian that is somehow harder to make leave the field.
@@raysay1818 honestly not really. Zama didn't really match well into the meta, even with Body Press it'd have still been walled hard by Calyrex and Wide Guard, and in Dynamax meta Max Ground attacks were very common due to the defense boost they provide (on top of having a neutrality to Max Airstream).
It would have been way less bad surely, but still people would have much rather ran Zacian or Caly-S or Kyogre instead.
@@raysay1818 nah
@@worldiefeard8396 these are all very fair points. Though I do still feel that Zamazenta with body press, while maybe not better than zacian exactly, it would still be up there. Like Zama got nerfed. it hit harder and was bulkier in sw/sh. it wasn't the biggest nerf but like the treasures of ruin got nerfed 5-10 points and it mattered enough to stop chi-yu from being ENTIRELY busted. so idk Zamazenta with 5 more points in both defenses 10 more in attack with +1 defense on *every* switch in with stab body press and boosted behemoth bash could be pretty threating and could change the meta accordingly. It's hard to say with these things because it's full on alternate universe speculation but it's crazy to think Zama was potentially always this close to the spot light it just needed the one tool it should of had from the start. Body press seems perfectly built for Zamazenta and then for some reason they didn't give it to the poor dog.
@@worldiefeard8396 Why would those stop Zamazenta from attacking when body press is singular so wide guard won't block it, max ground boosts special defense while Zama is faster than most of its users and being neutral to airstream isn't bad?
15:40 its funny how grass has like 5 weakness and yet the tankiest pokemon wants to terastalize into grass
It’s mainly because most of grasses weaknesses are “irrelevant” (Bug? Poison? Ice? Flying?) and it resists two of the hardest types to resist (ground and electric), as well as being immune to the annoying nonsense grass type Pokémon pull off with powders/spores.
I like how in practice Grass has no weaknesses, like how in Gen 1 Ice in practice has no weaknesses (except a weird one to Electric)
@@KHfanz it becomes weak to icy wind, a *special* move mainly for doubles to reduce speed everytime it hits
As a Zamazenta enjoyer who has very little knowledge whatsoever of the competitive scene, watching this video felt like a very educational tragicomedy history on the big doggo.
Thank you for creating and sharing this video. I knew to never doubt Zamazenta.
3 thumbnail changes so far this hour alone:
zamazenta sitting proudly with an award
zamazenta stealing an award
zamazenta being cheered on with a derpy look
Its not changes. Its called A/B thumbnail test that all creators can do in TH-cam studio
I can still see the first one.
Derp zamazenta where art thou
puppy-zenta the best (that third one)
Derpy zenta is my fav
1:02
In a video about zamazenta, incineror appears in 62 seconds
nah he appears even earlier at 1:02 or 62 seconds
@@jreggrae👍
🐐
Yeah someone beat you to that comment you may as well delete this failure
@@wyclef4351 ?
Oh man. When the doggo legendaries were first revealed I instantly knew I was gonna pick Shield version just for Zamazenta, and was subsequently baffled as the other one turned out to be both way more popular AND ridiculously stronger. It feels so good to see my favorite pup finally getting the spotlight he deserves :)
Tru same here
Dude same I've always loved zamazenta (To me it felt more pokemon as the shield felt more worked into the design instead if just handing it an item like zacian???)
It's awful seeing how much love zacian got while my shield doggo got scraps.
@@IronRalts the underdog wins!
I mean it’s not that I don’t want use zazamenta I just can’t get him I wish i chose shield smh
I always was more of a Zamazenta fan just because like you said, the sheild just works into its design better imo, so seeing it get some time in the spotlight competitively makes me very happy :)
This reminds me of the shield hero.
Forgotten because shields are uncool, until the curseshield comes out (body press)
this is one of my fave videos from you so far! i loved how accessible and compelling it was, who doesn't love a good underdog story
the thumbnail is so cuute...
hes such a good boi
im so proud of him
For the record, It took 63 seconds for Incineroar to be shown in a video about Zamazenta
This might be a new pb
@@KrazyKyle-ij9vb Slowrun%
🔥😼
Mentioned by name at 4:22
00:06 Technically Zacian is Zamazenta's older *sister* and not brother…
EDIT- the sheer amount of people losing their minds about a throwaway bit of lore is funny
Why?
@@WeeWeenskiin the Dex entries and lore it is explained that zacian is female, in a similar sense to lunala also lore wise being female
Pokedex entry. But it's still only speculated and not confirmed
@@WeeWeenski Shield's Pokedex entry for Zacian flat out says they’re either rivals, or Zacian is the older sister
big sis solos
“Live in the shadow of its big brother” um actually the pokedex says Zacian is Zamazenta’s sister
0:26 Omg that is so prehistoric
Can't tell if this is sarcasm or double sarcasm
I'm glad someone brought up that Sword of Ruin actually increases the damage of Body Press. Body Press is really weird that way, despite calculating damage with your defense, it gets its damage cut by burn despite burn supposedly cutting your attack stat in half, and also gets its damage buffed by Choice Band despite the description literally saying that it boosts attack. This tells me that Sword of Ruin, burns, and the choice items don't modify your stats at all and are instead a multiplier added to the formula somewhere for physical moves.
Pokémon really is a very weird, very complex game.
Does the snail decrease body press dmg?
@thomasgerstenmayer4100 most likely, based on how Sword of Ruin interacts with Body Press
@@thomasgerstenmayer4100 the snail gonna be cooking with this some day
yeah burns don’t halve attacking stats, they halve the power of physical moves.
The code holding these games together is hanging on by a thread.
Ah yes, the ghost that haunt my dreams, tera-ghost incineroar
Imagine Zamazenta today without the collateral nerfs it received because of Zacian. It may have come pretty close to Incineroar's usage stats ! 🤯
That thumbnail is way too cute, whoever made that deserves a medal
agree I love Zamazenta
“But, I dunno, Viva la Vida, or whatever. I think probably, some of you will get that, some of you will definitely get that”
Wolfe, Everybody got that
12:59 “there’s no defense lowering equivalent of intimidate” when sword of ruin is around is crazy (ik it’s not exactly the same but still funny thought I had)
We NEED a special attack version of Intimidate RIGHT NOW
zamazenta's backstory is actually so sad lmao
10:31
I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning, I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own
Just to show wolf at least someone got it lol
one of my favorite songs by far, glad someone else got it!
OOOOH, of course! And this is one of my favourite songs, as well 🤦♂️
@@notZabamiyeah, nobody is gonna get the reference to the grammy-winning #1 song from one of the biggest bands in the world. you're special!
@@supitskyle7832 lol
Nice more than one person
4:21
Lmao that evil Incineroar giggle
You called Zacian the big brother. Zacian is actually the big sister
I’m so happy to see Zamazenta’s redemption arc. Always fun to see an underdog (ha) finally get its chance to prove itself!
Behemoth bash should have used the defence stat instead of the attack stat. Seeing how body press was introduced in the same generation as the dog wearing a shield.
8:16 Regidrago: *”I don’t have such weaknesses!”*
Holy crap dude, I’m revisiting your channel after years of forgetting about it and, in general I’ve just been on a pokemon hiatus ever since I got into fighting games and the FGC so I just don’t watch Pokémon content as much as I used to and YOU BLEW UP MY MAN since I last saw you a few years ago! Congratulations! I loved your content back then and it’s so cool your content is just as good if not even better now. So happy for your success, and I’m glad you’re still in the Pokémon scene! GO WORLD CHAMP. I might have to resub😂
Bro. The production value keeps getting better and better with every new video. I love it!
I’ll be honest, I love these video essays about random Pokémon that became popular at some point, I want to be familiar with competitive even though I’m not good at it lol, so this is a cool way to keep updated
5:40 There is mistake, this is type chart for normal zacian not crowned
Nobody is here for Zacian
@@ChiIIi...Bot
@@ChiIIi...I'm here for both
Man every single time I watch one of your videos I’m so invested and entertained. It’s so informative and edited to perfection. Thank you the WolfeyVGC editing team and thank you for being such an iconic host Wolf. Please don’t catch a random disease so I can keep watching all of your videos!
Behemoth bash should have always used the defence stat from the beginning, this was a huge oversight
That thumbnail is so damn adorable... I was going to watch the video anyway (as always) but seeing Zenta in goodest boi mode™made me click even faster.
shoutout to the thumbnail artist for drawing the goodest good boy ever
From Zacian's Shield Dex Entry: "This Pokémon Has Slumbered For Many Years. Some Say It's Zamazenta's Elder *Sister* -Others Say The Two Pokémon Are Rivals."
Huh, I even checked the Japanese entry just to make sure. Every shield entry for Hero of Many Battles Zacian refers to Zacian as Zamazenta’s older sister.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wolfey doesn't really care about Pokémon lore 😅
emphasis on "some *SAY* "
dex entries are not canon, just rumors
@@butlershurk7227No, Zacian is referred to as a brother in the French entry.
@@teno777 my bad, I should’ve said that the english, japanese, and chinese entries say so. However, I did check the other languages on bulbapedia, and every language uses older sister except the Romance languages which do use a feminine noun (however they are gendered languages, so that point is moot) and some word with a similar root to fraternity. Since it’s just the Romance languages that do this, I think it’s a cultural thing to get across the specific nuance, but I don’t speak French, Spanish, or Italian, so I have no clue.
Something no one talks about: zacians nerf to attack meant it couldn't ohko opposing zacian anymore. It's a max 97% roll. You used to be able to spec to live a behemoth blade from opposing zacian, go second, and one shot it back. Not anymore!
Definitely said “Water SpRout” when he talked about the coverage moves for restricted Pokémon at the end. 17:47 Love your channel and you are my favorite Pokémon master. Thank you for taking your time to teach and entertain us.
Seriously though, how did it not already have body press in sword and shield? It makes so much sense for it to have it lmao. Although having two meta doggos in swsh maybe wouldve been too terrifying
Probably that. I assume Gamefreak was afraid Zamazenta might be too strong. Now that they nerfed Zamazenta's other attributes in Gen 9, they could afford to give it the move it needed all along.
“The classic ghost type” line got me good 😂
Maybe zamazenta was the friend we made along the way
based comment
I love this Zamazenta redemption arc, and as a Shield-only player in gen 8, I have dedicated myself to using nothing else for the duration of Reg G.
I'm a Zamazenta stan all the way.
Not sure how it will do in a double restricted format, but I'm just here for a good time
That fucking thumbnail is so adorable it hurts
"Paired legendaries have to be nerfed equally."
Regidrago: *task failed successfully*
the thumbnail with the silly zamazenta is soooo goood
It looks so much cooler than zacian, i love it, it always made me sad how bad it is, i had no idea about this story so this makes me rlly happy
Exactly! There's so many dogs with swords, it's basically an archetype, but a dog wearing a shield is new and awesome
It's my favorite gen 8 Mon! I really like how big it actually is in crowned form! It has big broad shoulders for the shield akin to a brave tank in the front lines being a hero, a noble knight, and a bro that protects everyone else plus a really cool design all over! Everything comes together so so well!
Zamazenta gets body press: "Oh yeah! It's all comming toghether"
This is the best content i have ever seen on yt. Well done and keep up the good work
After being dragged down by his counterpart he found kinship with a different sword wielding legendary 4 wheeler
5:35 Comparing Crown Form Zamazanta versus Regular Zacian. Doesn't matter but still something I caught.
The ragnarok effects and music still bangs to this day
Zacian is Mario and Zamazenta is Luigi
Zacian being Sonic and Zamazenta being Tails also work
The year of Zamazenta is upon us!
and this is ssbu.
Aww, love the puppy thumbnail so much
This is a perfect example of how a Pokemon’s strength isn’t the same from game to game.
I just have to say
Thumbs up for whoever did the thumbnail art of zamazenta having no thoughts.
I love it
Sincerely, nerfing Zamazenta's Dauntless Shield was NOT necessary, cause wasn't broken like Zacian's Intrepid Sword, should be buffed instead.
I just wanna know why Game freak didnt give Body Press to zazamazenta at first place, like why just now?
The editor including the pazaak losing noise at 00:53 really gave me whiplash. I need to play the kotor games again..
One thing of note is that Zacian lore wise might be Zamazenta’s elder sister at least according to shield’s Zacian pokedex entry “This Pokémon has slumbered for many years. Some say it's Zamazenta's elder sister-others say the two Pokémon are rivals.”
Welcome back, Wolfey! Congrats on an awesome VGC performance this year.
5:40 doggos are on the wrong side mr editor
Zamazenta got the shield hero treatment. 😢😂😂
“But there’s no defense lowering equivalent of intimidate, and, thank goodness for that”
*Sword of Ruin*
Behemoth Bash should've had the same mechanic as Body Press even back in SS.
For anyone interested, it takes 62 seconds for incineroar to appear in a video about a dog with a big face
Took too long 😭😭😭
@@miniiore I'm just doing it for record keeping at this point, I regret starting this and ruining the comments a little bit but I can't stop until there's a video without incineroar
@@cyphate it doesn't ruin it! Hail Incineroar!
10:27 "now the old king is dead
Lool"
I was wondering
“One minute I held my nuts”
I used to rule the world
@@Woodiegamin643-we7ss oh is it a coldplay reference? I was slow on that
"One minute I held my N U T Z"
As someone who played Shield instead of Sword I appreciate this
I haven't been a part of competitive Pokemon since the online scene in Diamond and Pearl era, but I love watching your videos and marvel at how clearly you explain everything so that anybody can understand and appreciate the intricacies of what you're talking about. Keep up the awesome work!
This makes me so happy! Because I got Pokémon shield while my cousin got sword. I constantly heard so much backlash on zamazenta and it really hurt because I love it so much! But now knowing that it’s popular and loved is so fulfilling!
Still my favorite legendary 0:01
same
It’s better than sword
THE ZAMAZENTA ON THE THUMBNAIL IS SO CUTE
1:16 wait for a sec and I think that’s from enemy by imagine dragons
1:47
There's something so strangely funny about the one white kyurem amidst all the other legendaries.
I still do not understand why the defensive Fighting type Legendary didn’t have access to the Fighting type move based around Defense introduced in the same generation
Zacian in lore is techanlly the older sister
one of these days wolfey has to do a count the incineroar challenge 1:02 btw
Definitely would watch that lmao
The shield dog can also knows the movie Moon blast which is very effective against fighting dark types like Incineroar
I’m just happy that both doggos are doing well in their respective formats; Zamazenta has managed to become the King of VGC, meanwhile Zacian is still tearing it up in Ubers.
3:00 you have to remember the +1 attack is applied to the current attack stat not the base
so its actually effectively gonna be higher than just having base 225
01:48 That one guy with Kyrem White, he most feel spechal
0:28 Good joke, there wasn't anything to explore in Galar (expect the DLC areas)
Whos here after the title of the video was changed for the 3rd time
You have no idea how happy this video makes me. I've been a die hard Zamazenta fan before Sword and Shield even released, and the entire Sw/Sh era my poor boi has only struggled. LOOK AT MY DOG NOW!!! 😭
Love an attack that’s based on the defense stat. Reminds me of Bravely Default where the knight gets an attack like bodypress as well as the ability to dual wield shields and so you just stack the defense stat stupid high and hit 9999 each hit while being a tank