Yoko Taro almost cancelling a game he’s working on cause he can’t get up in the morning is the most Yoko Taro thing I’ve ever heard and I 100% believe it.
I recently platinumed both Nier games. Makes me feel queasy to think Automata could've been scrapped, as it's easily the best game I've played in years.
Let's be honest though, Pokemon Red and Blue managed to cram WAY more into that tiny cart and chunky hardware that could be reasonably expected. It's why they're both so good and have so many fascinating exploits.
Game freak is natoriously bad at condensing their software. To the point that when they were creating the second gen games they couldn't fit half of it on the cartridge. Enter the then CEO of Nintendo who took the code home and in two days binge fixed their code to be so better optimized the entire game and the original game could fit on the cartridge.
Still playing pokemon red, only now its through my N64, on a big flatscreen tv instead of a tiny gameboy. And thanks to the Stadium transfers, I've beaten the elite four with the same team of pokemon five times across five trainers, and have 3 mewtwos waiting in the wings lol.
I understand its very impressive for two reasons. One, its about 1MB. Two, its very hard to crash, it will do its best to keep going the glitches and only fall apart if you really mess it up.
i can't imagine most of these games not coming out but not wanting to turn up to work at 9:30am would have to be the weirdest of the reasons for a game almost not making it
@@khamjaninja. Only the ones with the very "unique" auteur devs that we're used to when it comes to Japanese games, I guess. Seems like they pretty much get to write their own contracts!
This ones a weird case. Great Ace Attorney (and its quick sequel) were both games that were never localized globally for five years. The most popular theory on that was because a character "Sherlock Holmes" was copyrighted by Conan Doyle Estate for the character receiving personality. But now, it was finally localized at the cost of changing the name into "Herlock Sholmes".
I remember that flood. I lived in a town near Hello Games, and the one of the fields in my town which was also next to that river suddenly resembled a lake.
It also has an unusual premise, being a tower defense/shooter hybrid. Even if more than 90% of the remining player base spends all of their time simply shooting. I miss old Save the World.
i still play save the world to this day, it's so sad they will never add in the story line in twine peaks after what happened with Desiree and the storm king
@@Spartan-sz7km You might try Sanctum 2, it's a similar premise. You're agents on an alien planet tasked with protecting power plants from raging alien life-forms. In between each wave you have time to build barriers and turrets to support your FPS action. I did an LP of it.
Pokémon Gold & Silver also came close to getting canceled. Gamefreak had trouble fitting both Johto and Kanto into the game until Satoru Iwata stepped up to the challenge.
Fun fact, Toy Story 2 nearly didn't get made because a Pixar worker accidentally typed a kill code that erased most of the movie from the company computers. Fortunately, there was one animator who was on maternity leave and had a copy of all their progress to work at home, saving the entire movie. This was even referenced in Toy Story 4 where that faulty code became the license plate of the car at the beginning. So we should all be thanking that one baby for being born at just the right time. ;)
Oh, wow. I'm torn because I've never liked those movies, don't know why. That's such a great story, though! Glad you added it here, I know someone who'll love it!
Do you know what maternity leave is? If the lady on maternity leave wasn’t pregnant and didn’t need to take the copy of work home, they would have lost everything. So that baby is why we have Toy Story 2.
There's another pokemon story as well one, gold and silver nearly didn't happen but was saved by a genius developer ( satoru iwata, if your as nerdy as me) who managed to compress them down to fit on a game boy colour cartridge he compressed it so far they were actually able to get two regions in the game. Edit : spelling.
(I remember now) Similarly to Goldeneye, UFO: Enemy Unknown was cancelled, but the devs were never informed so they continued to happily* make it and we know how that turned out.
I'm from the universe where Yoko Taro can wake up before 9 AM. We already have 3 NeiR: Automata games and their success inspired Capcom to make Mega Man Legends 3. You all are missing out!
@@mappybc6097 I would go to a universe where TIKTOK and onlyfan never existed in a heartbeat. They are not missing out if they didn't have either of them
If I remember correctly, that was the C ending in the game. It's unfortunate because that isn't the true ending, so we sort of miss out. I wish they could have merged that scene and the D ending for perfection.
Now knowing No Man's Sky sucked at launch because they lost everything shows dedication. Glad they kept going. Weird we almost didn't get Red/green and blue because Charmander was too hot to trot lol I
They also got kinda framed because gaming news outlets made promises that they said they were only considering as possibilities. Honestly, the entire universe was against NMS being successful or good in any capacity but goddamn were they dedicated to delivering on their promises. Even the promises that were made for them by people unrelated to the studio.
@@Fanimati0n I dunno, I heard an awful lot come straight from Sean Murray's mouth in interviews, not from random outlets. And I saw their initial trailers, and how much didn't make it to the launch release. Plus even the box art in certain regions had to have a sticker put on covering the online multiplayer symbol. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all about the NMS comeback train, but I was definitely mad back then, and I know that (for me at least,) that anger could have been avoided if they had just been forthcoming with the info; What was going to be there at launch, what had be scrapped or delayed, intended plans for adding things in the future, etc. And they KNEW what the hype train surrounding the game looked like, they had the opportunity to get out there and temper people's expectations but instead Murray was out there throwing more fuel into it, until a single tweet from him about 24 hours before release that got us wondering "should we be worried?" Yes, it is fantastic that Hello Games were able to turn things around, and give almost everything "promised" and much more, but don't let the deserved applause for the comeback story completely overshadow that they absolutely did earn the ire of their consumers in the first place.
@@BanzaiHeil a lot of the things he said "were going to be in it" were things that they were considering for the future. Internet historian actually made a REALLY good video about the whole debacle
@@Fanimati0n I acknowledge that to be the case for some things, but there are also a lot of things he said "were" in it and they weren't. Hell I can think of one thing that didn't make it and almost certainly never will, rotating and revolving planets. But ultimately my point is that they should have been out there making sure that the correct information was available and CLEAR, which they did not.
That explains the Mario character so much. I always thought it was odd that they randomly picked a middle aged slightly thick plumber as the main character for a kids game but it kinda makes sense if the original was supposed to be Popeye.
Ah ha! So, are you from the butterfly effect universe where Super Popeye Odyssey came out, and the universe where Super Popeye Odyssey 2 might one day be in production? And, could you tell me what it's like there?
Like, i understand that gtav prints money for rockstar. But wouldn’t it stand to reason the same would happen for six? If yearly instalments of call of duty has taught me anything, once you release the sequel the community pretty much unanimously migrates to the new hotness regardless of how serviceable the previous one still is.
@@thejason755 Well this is Rockstar and Take2 with GTA we talking about, even if there's something off with them when releasing GTAVI the shittiest they can get in term of the game probably like that one Scarface game really. It just Take2 wanted i guess more Stable Money really? which is weird knowing that they can get more with GTA6 so they kept milking GTAV to death.
@@muddashucka9743 Crysis. It's a play on the whole "will it run Crysis" because "Crysis" required a ton of processing power and alot of PCs couldnt run "Crysis" whenbit originally released. Nice try on correcting something you didnt understand I guess. A joke that went over your head.
I swear I played a Popeye version of Donkey Kong. It might have been a yellow cartridge type fake "nintendo" console at a friends house, but I vividly remember playing it
they did sort out the license a year or so later, and the game you’re talking about came out but by that point donkey kong was already successful on on its own terms
Would the Popeye game have been a smash hit? Would Nintendo have been able keep making games with Popeye, or would they have tried creating some other character to replace him in similar games. If they were knowingly creating a mascot instead of slapping a placeholder character into a game to replace Popeye, what would the mascot look like?
Popeye isn't as cartoonish as Mario became. It would have been a smash hit and series of Popeye games with the same great devs would have made great games, just with a sailor instead of a plumber.
@@Paulafan5 We would just have a main character that sounds like a chain smoker and punches enemies in the face, instead of one that jumps on their heads and huffs paint.
Nier: A and Cyberpunk are two games that left me depressed, but kind of wanting to 'stay there' in that feeling (I was able to play Cyberpunk on ps5, so it brute forced 60fps, and only crashed about 6 times). The music, the story, the atmosphere, the bitter sweet, no-one-gets-a-happy-ending-endings, the glimmer of hope... Both dope.
There was actually a Popeye Arcade Game I vaguely remember from my youth. In it you ran around a Donkey Kongesque platform, trying to send hearts or kisses (can’t quite remember) to Olive Oyl whilst trying to avoid Bluto who would batter 7 bells out of you. There were cans of Spinach which would give you a brief upper hand not unlike Pac-Man’s super pills where you could batter 8 bells out of Bluto. What I do tenner though is that the characters (or Sprites) where very accurate to Popeye and others. Some great animations and I also remember Winpy being on the second level which I don’t think I got past. I’m pretty sure there must be footage of this somewhere. In fact if I find some I’ll post the link 😂
Can confirm, had that game on the Commodore 64. It wasn’t half bad, actually. Enjoyed it a lot more than Donkey Kong (but not nearly as much as Super Mario Bros.)!
Honestly the more I hear about the original Pokémon and how much that code and technology at the time barely held it all together, I’m surprised it didn’t glitch and create real Pokémon that would attack children.
I love that the dev company accommodated Yoko Taro's bizarre attitude to working normal hours, and changed quite a major aspect of running the business to suit both him and pretty much everyone else working for them. THAT'S how a business SHOULD be conducted.
I love that NieR Automata almost got canceled because Yoko Taro wanted more sleep. Do you and never change Yoko Taro! P.S. - "S**t SquareEnix! NieR Automata T-Shirt!" If you know, you know.
Wow! I also have a schedule that makes it harder to wake up in time for the usual 9/9:30 start and it took me months to figure out a solution. Yoko Taro and I are even more alike than I thought!
I mean, to be fair, the comparison to Ridge Racer probably became a bit less of a painful one once that one press conference happened, and suddenly Ridge Racer was only something you could say by saying "Riiiiiiidge Racerrrrrrr!" in as awkward a way as possible, alongside "Giant Enemy Crab" and "599 US Dollars"
"Waking up early" isn't the thing I hate, I hate it more to be forced to interrupt sleep at a certain time so I can do shit I'm obliged to do. I'm working shifts in a factory and every shift is fine, except morning shift. In the afternoon I sleep until around 10, wake up on my own and got time to do some chores and stuff, eat, work, eat, do a few things I enjoy and sleep. On night shift I basically switch sleep and work time of other people and got the whole afternoon for myself (again, without having a fixed wake-up time, but more like a rough average when I get up). But on early shifts... I absolutely hate knowing I HAVE to wake up at a certain time or otherwise I'd make my life a lot harder than necessary. It messes with my sleep quality, so I need more sleep which I can't get because I have to adult most of the time and still want to do nice things aswell.
For me it's the "have to interact with other people and function like a person early in the morning" that's the issue. I'm awake around 7 each morning to tend to my cats, but I'm not around other people and I can't take my time bumbling around without any forced cheer or coherency. I also like it because it means that no one else in the house is up at the same time as me, so I get proper peace and quiet to do what I want for a while.
@@secrets_behind_the_fan9185 Agreed. I definitely am not getting enough sleep despite all my attempts. I just make sure I've had some form of caffeine and food before I have to deal with anyone most days.
I tend to not sleep for a couple of days, or sleep very little over several days then have a crash day where my sleep debt eats my whole day off. I actually prefer really early shifts because I'm going to be awake more than likely anyway and just don't bother to sleep leading up to my shift and occasionally my brain will let me rest for a bit later on. Yes, this is incredibly unhealthy, but nothing I've tried has helped remedy this and it means I have a very weird concept of time, but I a lot of time to read and game, so...win? Maybe?😅
There really is a Miyamoto-designed Popeye game that was also released in 1982! It was a UK arcade exclusive, but also got ported to Famicom/NES. It's extremely similar to Donkey Kong, except bad and dumb. 😂
It also got a proper Northern America release in the states, so we Yanks got to play it in the arcades as well. I remember it being markedly different from Donkey Kong in that your main objective was to catch little hearts (which represented blown kisses from Olive Oyl) or musical notes (played by Olive on a little harp) before they reached the bottom edge of the screen -- unlike Donkey Kong, your main antagonist was Bluto (Brutus) who followed Popeye around & could either punch, slap or pounce on Popeye from an upper level (Bluto could also jump up & try to hit Popeye from below). Worse yet, Bluto could also throw beer bottles @ Popeye from a distance!
The Popeye game did get made, I saw it in an arcade cabinet in the US when I was a kid. Once. I was under 10 years old, but I do remember it seemed unnecessarily confusing. Maybe you could find some footage next time that story makes a list?
To be honest, I'd prefer to not have to get up to work at 9:30 in the morning as well. But that's because I'm what's called an owl chronotype, and prior to noon I just don't function and pose a danger to others and myself.
Donkey Kong would have made a lot more sense if it was a Popeye game. I'd love to slip into an alternative reality to see how that would have turned out. Imagine, Popeye in every place Mario is now with Olive Oil instead of Princess Toadstool.
Yoko taro laughing and flopping on that guy and his arm gestures remind me of the time I saw a vid of buckethead watching a commercial for cheap baseball cards and gets so excited he cant help but trip and knock shit over. Never saw anyone so excited in my life lol
What was left out in the Fortnite segment was that one of my favorite games was sacrificed in order to pay those expensive budgets. R.I.P. Paragon. Here’s hoping Overprime is a decent likeness.
"Platinum Games' start of the work day is at 9:30 a.m., and as a freelancer, I can't wake up that early." Me who has to set the alarm clock for 5 a.m. before day shift: "Oh, to have your problems..."
10:47 - Oh it's paradise man. Video Games are now experiencing their most healthy and lucrative spike in business due to kids actually wanting to play a wide variety of games instead of just the one goddamn thing. Best timeline ever.
Slight issue with that last entry: they DID make the Popeye game. While the original game ended up being redone to feature new characters DK, Mario, and Pauline, the next year Popeye WAS released, with identical gameplay. I remember a local bowling alley had an arcade cabinet for Popeye. It's out there, somewhere. So, Donkey Kong wasn't ALMOST Popeye... because Popeye still happened. Both games did indeed see the light of day, and in the same era.
He can do that because he had the reputation and privilege, the devs that's working on it doesn't have that privilege tho. Yoko maybe a face of an IP but his status and position Makes him an important diva. As a multimedia artist that had an insomnia, 4 hours of sleep is already a privilege. But gotta admit the flexible working hours should be implemented more in offices as long as the employee finish the task that day.
And if we did get the popeye arcade game in an era where they still might have been making popeye cartoons, we wouldn't have the unforgettable phenomenon; popeye for switch, 2021 A 3D rendered stripped down version of the famous proto - Kong arcade game. And yes, it was stripped down, I'm pretty sure it was Rerez that found out that the cancelled arcade version would have had more content than the switch version has. Like another music track
Wait are you saying we nearly didn't get Nier Automata, the world would have not been the same without it, it was an incredible game and that soundtrack was sublime, one of my favourite game soundtracks of all time :)
I’m surprised about the Pokémon one. I had a similar overheating issue in the mid nineties. I just removed one of the side panels and taped a box fan to it (blowing out so as to not blow dust and such into the tower of course.
There was actually a Popeye game I remember playing and it was like Nintendo graphics but I played it over seas and it was a 10 cent arcade with a collection of games
if the fine folks at outside extra tell you guys i was asking for andy, i was confused between your 2 channels. glad to see andy still doing this after all these years.
The donkey kong one actually makes sense, because in the popeye cartoons Bluto was a big hairy guy that would try to kidnap Olive Oyl and Popeye would save her It's easy to see how the game was just re-skinned while keeping the same concept
If it makes you feel any better, in Cuphead there are references of Bluto and Olive Oyl with the bosses Captain Brineybeard and Sally Stageplay respectively. So in reality, we already got a Popeye game....just without Popeye in it.
@@jellysharkbat Prey 2 was almost complete. But after the studio was aquired by Bethesda, they canned the game for "not being up to their quality standards"
@@wotwott2319 Guru Larry did such a video some time back, though I don't think it had Prey 2 on it... it DID, however, have Timesplitters 4 on it... an entire completed game canceled all because marketing couldn't figure out which character to put on the box art.
There was however a donkey Kong esc style Popeye game. I don’t know if it made it to any consoles but I played it a bunch as an arcade cabinet. Course this was back in the 80s at my old Chuck E. Cheese.
The thing about No Man’s Sky is that if they had started with a (more) reasonable goal of say… ten planets, they could make them far more detailed and put more work into the actual features, game play, and art. Then just add new planets every so often. When the next gen console comes out just remaster the game/art and keep adding content. Frankly, I don’t know why most open world games aren’t made that way.
With regards to the developers' computers breaking down during development of the original Pokemon games, it was probably less about the power needed to run the games and more the stress placed on the computers by being powered on and heavily used for long periods of time while the developers worked. Computers of the mid '90s did not always have the best endurance, and I would be willing to bet that A. the computers were secondhand and/or old, and B. the offices did not have the best cooling.
If you can believe it I have actually seen an Arcade Cabinet featuring what Donkey Kong would have looked like if it was made into a Popeye Game its was at some MIni Golf place that I honestly don't remember where it is now ;D
Yoko Taro almost cancelling a game he’s working on cause he can’t get up in the morning is the most Yoko Taro thing I’ve ever heard and I 100% believe it.
And the most utterly relatable thing about him
Plus he accidentally allowed a healthier company condition to be made
@@astrisperspecto4130 Wholesome!
I recently platinumed both Nier games. Makes me feel queasy to think Automata could've been scrapped, as it's easily the best game I've played in years.
When he was working on the Shadowbringers raid for FF14 he threatened to burn down the servers because the deadlines were too much to keep up with.
Why is Nier Automata great: Yoko Taro
Why is it so weird: Yoko Taro
Why did it nearly get cancelled: Yoko Taro
Let's be honest though, Pokemon Red and Blue managed to cram WAY more into that tiny cart and chunky hardware that could be reasonably expected. It's why they're both so good and have so many fascinating exploits.
Game freak is natoriously bad at condensing their software. To the point that when they were creating the second gen games they couldn't fit half of it on the cartridge. Enter the then CEO of Nintendo who took the code home and in two days binge fixed their code to be so better optimized the entire game and the original game could fit on the cartridge.
And its only gone downhill from there!
@@thelostone7512 I wouldn't say it's gone downhill, Game Freak have just refused to change the core gameplay loop
Still playing pokemon red, only now its through my N64, on a big flatscreen tv instead of a tiny gameboy. And thanks to the Stadium transfers, I've beaten the elite four with the same team of pokemon five times across five trainers, and have 3 mewtwos waiting in the wings lol.
I understand its very impressive for two reasons. One, its about 1MB. Two, its very hard to crash, it will do its best to keep going the glitches and only fall apart if you really mess it up.
I love that Yoko Taro had to specify that he wasn't joking, because of how much he tends to joke around in interviews.
and because of how ridiculous the story sounds 😂
i can't imagine most of these games not coming out but not wanting to turn up to work at 9:30am would have to be the weirdest of the reasons for a game almost not making it
@@khamjaninja. Only the ones with the very "unique" auteur devs that we're used to when it comes to Japanese games, I guess. Seems like they pretty much get to write their own contracts!
@@danielharvison7510 When the creative talent makes or breaks the brand you cater to them.
That works regardless of the industry.
This ones a weird case. Great Ace Attorney (and its quick sequel) were both games that were never localized globally for five years. The most popular theory on that was because a character "Sherlock Holmes" was copyrighted by Conan Doyle Estate for the character receiving personality. But now, it was finally localized at the cost of changing the name into "Herlock Sholmes".
Which is infinitely more on brand for Ace Attorney & something I'm surprised they didn't come out of the stating gate with.
Which as a Holmes fan, I'm kinda glad about because of the way the games interpreted the character. A bit too goofy for my taste.
When Yoko Taro tell your company "i wake up when i want or you get no game" you answer "yes and thank you" in the name of profit and culture.
Nah. You send them packing and hire someone who actually gives a shit.
I remember that flood. I lived in a town near Hello Games, and the one of the fields in my town which was also next to that river suddenly resembled a lake.
The fact that Yoko Taro nearly cancelled Nier Automata because he didn't want to get out of bed is relatable
It's a mood
That's what I was thinking. I work the graveyard shift and rarely get up before 2. 😅
I’m sad that Save the World has been all but abandoned. It has some of the wittiest writing I’ve seen and Ashly Burch kills it as Ray.
It also has an unusual premise, being a tower defense/shooter hybrid. Even if more than 90% of the remining player base spends all of their time simply shooting. I miss old Save the World.
@@jodinsan it would be extremely cool to build a base and defend it
i still play save the world to this day, it's so sad they will never add in the story line in twine peaks after what happened with Desiree and the storm king
@@Spartan-sz7km You might try Sanctum 2, it's a similar premise. You're agents on an alien planet tasked with protecting power plants from raging alien life-forms. In between each wave you have time to build barriers and turrets to support your FPS action. I did an LP of it.
To be fair Ashly pretty much kills any role she plays.
Pokémon Gold & Silver also came close to getting canceled. Gamefreak had trouble fitting both Johto and Kanto into the game until Satoru Iwata stepped up to the challenge.
They had trouble just fitting Johto in the cart. Satoru Iwata fixed the memory issues and there was enough space to also put in Kanto.
He was so amazing. Rest in peace, Iwata.
That's apparently something of an urban legend.
Fun fact, Toy Story 2 nearly didn't get made because a Pixar worker accidentally typed a kill code that erased most of the movie from the company computers. Fortunately, there was one animator who was on maternity leave and had a copy of all their progress to work at home, saving the entire movie. This was even referenced in Toy Story 4 where that faulty code became the license plate of the car at the beginning. So we should all be thanking that one baby for being born at just the right time. ;)
Hopefully they called it Andy
@@FrenchCanadianGuy yeah or at least was the middle name, wasted opportunity otherwise lol
see this really is a FUN fact. thanks.
Oh, wow. I'm torn because I've never liked those movies, don't know why. That's such a great story, though! Glad you added it here, I know someone who'll love it!
Do you know what maternity leave is? If the lady on maternity leave wasn’t pregnant and didn’t need to take the copy of work home, they would have lost everything. So that baby is why we have Toy Story 2.
God, I don't wanna imagine a world without NieR: Automata. That game had such a massive emotional impact on me that it still makes me cry.
There's another pokemon story as well one, gold and silver nearly didn't happen but was saved by a genius developer ( satoru iwata, if your as nerdy as me) who managed to compress them down to fit on a game boy colour cartridge he compressed it so far they were actually able to get two regions in the game.
Edit : spelling.
Satoru
No need to be nerdy to know Iwata. He was CEO of Nintendo for a long time, until his death.
@@TM_0153 haha yeah bro but to a lot of people knowing the ceo of Nintendo, is pretty damn nerdy.
@@HeliosEffect right you are do you know what's worse I wrote it saturo first tried to correct it then Made a typo my bad.
@@theubiquitouspotato it happens haha
(I remember now) Similarly to Goldeneye, UFO: Enemy Unknown was cancelled, but the devs were never informed so they continued to happily* make it and we know how that turned out.
I'm from the universe where Yoko Taro can wake up before 9 AM. We already have 3 NeiR: Automata games and their success inspired Capcom to make Mega Man Legends 3.
You all are missing out!
That's nothing, I'm from the universe where he teamed up with Hideo Kojima and they made Half Life Nukem 3: Tokyo Drift.
I'm from a universe where Yoko Taro can wake up before 5 am and somehow the moon got colonized.
?????
@@theomnitorium7476 But do you guys have Tik Tok and Onlyfans heh?
Who's missing out now smart guy?
@@ichijofestival2576 you must be from a universe where making a spin-off series is outlawed.
@@mappybc6097 I would go to a universe where TIKTOK and onlyfan never existed in a heartbeat. They are not missing out if they didn't have either of them
6:22 The fact they didn't cancel Fortnite and, instead, cancelled Unreal Tournament once Fortnite made ALL the monies, will make me salty forever.
„I never quite realized… how beautiful this world is.“
Get‘s me everytime
If I remember correctly, that was the C ending in the game. It's unfortunate because that isn't the true ending, so we sort of miss out. I wish they could have merged that scene and the D ending for perfection.
Gotta appreciate Hello Games having a sense of humor about the whole ordeal in those Tweets. Good on them!
The funny thing is that the Popeye game actually came out as an arcade game. As a kid I use to always think of how similar it was to Donkey Kong.
Now knowing No Man's Sky sucked at launch because they lost everything shows dedication. Glad they kept going.
Weird we almost didn't get Red/green and blue because Charmander was too hot to trot lol
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They also got kinda framed because gaming news outlets made promises that they said they were only considering as possibilities. Honestly, the entire universe was against NMS being successful or good in any capacity but goddamn were they dedicated to delivering on their promises. Even the promises that were made for them by people unrelated to the studio.
@@Fanimati0n I dunno, I heard an awful lot come straight from Sean Murray's mouth in interviews, not from random outlets. And I saw their initial trailers, and how much didn't make it to the launch release. Plus even the box art in certain regions had to have a sticker put on covering the online multiplayer symbol.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all about the NMS comeback train, but I was definitely mad back then, and I know that (for me at least,) that anger could have been avoided if they had just been forthcoming with the info; What was going to be there at launch, what had be scrapped or delayed, intended plans for adding things in the future, etc. And they KNEW what the hype train surrounding the game looked like, they had the opportunity to get out there and temper people's expectations but instead Murray was out there throwing more fuel into it, until a single tweet from him about 24 hours before release that got us wondering "should we be worried?"
Yes, it is fantastic that Hello Games were able to turn things around, and give almost everything "promised" and much more, but don't let the deserved applause for the comeback story completely overshadow that they absolutely did earn the ire of their consumers in the first place.
@@BanzaiHeil a lot of the things he said "were going to be in it" were things that they were considering for the future. Internet historian actually made a REALLY good video about the whole debacle
@@Fanimati0n I acknowledge that to be the case for some things, but there are also a lot of things he said "were" in it and they weren't. Hell I can think of one thing that didn't make it and almost certainly never will, rotating and revolving planets. But ultimately my point is that they should have been out there making sure that the correct information was available and CLEAR, which they did not.
That explains the Mario character so much. I always thought it was odd that they randomly picked a middle aged slightly thick plumber as the main character for a kids game but it kinda makes sense if the original was supposed to be Popeye.
Super Mario might have been the game we needed, but Super Popeye is the game we deserved.
Ah ha! So, are you from the butterfly effect universe where Super Popeye Odyssey came out, and the universe where Super Popeye Odyssey 2 might one day be in production? And, could you tell me what it's like there?
OH HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I despise every Mario game, (the Mariokart games in particular.)
A universe with a Popeye franchise, KILL ME NOW.
@@renegade7357 Why would you hate the Mario games? They're great.
List of weird reasons for not getting GTA6:
- GTAV
- Money
Huh seems suspiciously similar to why we don't have elder scrolls 6 too
@@tycol322 Because they can just keep re-releasing Skyrim over and over again with it's dated combat system.
Like, i understand that gtav prints money for rockstar. But wouldn’t it stand to reason the same would happen for six? If yearly instalments of call of duty has taught me anything, once you release the sequel the community pretty much unanimously migrates to the new hotness regardless of how serviceable the previous one still is.
With this year’s Vanguard being the exception if i’m interpreting sales correctly.
@@thejason755 Well this is Rockstar and Take2 with GTA we talking about, even if there's something off with them when releasing GTAVI the shittiest they can get in term of the game probably like that one Scarface game really.
It just Take2 wanted i guess more Stable Money really? which is weird knowing that they can get more with GTA6 so they kept milking GTAV to death.
I've been playing Pokemon since Gen.1, and it was news to me that we almost didn't have them due to computer problems.
Same
"The Crysis of 1996" had me DEAD. Andy is fantastic
*crisis
@@muddashucka9743 Crysis. It's a play on the whole "will it run Crysis" because "Crysis" required a ton of processing power and alot of PCs couldnt run "Crysis" whenbit originally released. Nice try on correcting something you didnt understand I guess. A joke that went over your head.
Ah, it's a pun on a poorly optimised video game. Understood.
I swear I played a Popeye version of Donkey Kong. It might have been a yellow cartridge type fake "nintendo" console at a friends house, but I vividly remember playing it
they did sort out the license a year or so later, and the game you’re talking about came out but by that point donkey kong was already successful on on its own terms
I like the implication here that Yoko Taro does not constantly lie about everything he does.
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You take that back! Emil's face is precious!
Would the Popeye game have been a smash hit? Would Nintendo have been able keep making games with Popeye, or would they have tried creating some other character to replace him in similar games. If they were knowingly creating a mascot instead of slapping a placeholder character into a game to replace Popeye, what would the mascot look like?
Quantum Croupier: This world will never know… [shuffles]
Except for a few (un)lucky fellows.
[draws 4]
Popeye isn't as cartoonish as Mario became. It would have been a smash hit and series of Popeye games with the same great devs would have made great games, just with a sailor instead of a plumber.
@@Paulafan5 We would just have a main character that sounds like a chain smoker and punches enemies in the face, instead of one that jumps on their heads and huffs paint.
@@leegaul2161 The only game genre that Popeye would be at home in is a side scrolling beat em up.
@@SvenElven Or God of War. No really.... old-school Popeye cartoons had some massive fights with enemies that even Kratos would approach cautiously.
So very glad that we got the amazing game that is NieR Automata
Yup i'm glad that it didn't get canceled because it's a really good game
Yes, I’m thankful for the emotional damage and the depression too
@@MCCiabattaGrande the damage from waking up ungodly early is worse. Give me an existential crisis and philosophical black hole over 9am any day....
Nier: A and Cyberpunk are two games that left me depressed, but kind of wanting to 'stay there' in that feeling (I was able to play Cyberpunk on ps5, so it brute forced 60fps, and only crashed about 6 times).
The music, the story, the atmosphere, the bitter sweet, no-one-gets-a-happy-ending-endings, the glimmer of hope...
Both dope.
Can't wait for collaboration with nier and PGR...yesssss
Am a game dev, can confirm... getting up earlish is the hardest part of my job....thank god we have rolling schedule too
My theory is that every time a game is cancelled, Hidetka Miyazaki programs another poison swamp level.
I might be alone in this, but I would absolutely play a "Super Popeye Odyssey" game.
Don't call Emil terrifying, he's a good boy :
[Draws swords] *WHO* SAID THAT?
Emil is such a sweetie pie I love him so much
1. This one's true, Andy's not lie-in...
Boo! (throws tomato) Get off the stage!
For shame....😱 😂
Fantastic! 😂
I've never wished physical harm on anyone before... Until now.
There was actually a Popeye Arcade Game I vaguely remember from my youth. In it you ran around a Donkey Kongesque platform, trying to send hearts or kisses (can’t quite remember) to Olive Oyl whilst trying to avoid Bluto who would batter 7 bells out of you. There were cans of Spinach which would give you a brief upper hand not unlike Pac-Man’s super pills where you could batter 8 bells out of Bluto. What I do tenner though is that the characters (or Sprites) where very accurate to Popeye and others. Some great animations and I also remember Winpy being on the second level which I don’t think I got past. I’m pretty sure there must be footage of this somewhere. In fact if I find some I’ll post the link 😂
Can confirm, had that game on the Commodore 64. It wasn’t half bad, actually. Enjoyed it a lot more than Donkey Kong (but not nearly as much as Super Mario Bros.)!
I had it on the C64 as well.
One of the first videogames I ever played. Child me didn't get it, and lost horribly... which is part of why I remember it.
Funnily enough, a 3D remake of that game came out last year. And it looks absolutely terrible.
Yeah i rememebr that game too! Was fun to play as a kid
I find it hard to imagine a world without Pokemon
But could live without fortnight
@@stephenadams8712 yeah rally, it's just....ugh... the game.
11 seconds into the video and Shaq Fu has been unneccesarily slandered.
I'm not pleased, Andy.
man i love these videos, and i’ve grown up watching them, i love you guys and you guys will always have a soft spot in my heart!
Honestly the more I hear about the original Pokémon and how much that code and technology at the time barely held it all together, I’m surprised it didn’t glitch and create real Pokémon that would attack children.
Sounds like an SCP.
Ever heard of Lavendertown causing seizures?
Yeah that was a coverup…
@@normalhuman9878 oh shit it’s all making sense now..
So what you're saying is Pokemon Red/Blue was so buggy it destroyed the devs computers. I see
I love that the dev company accommodated Yoko Taro's bizarre attitude to working normal hours, and changed quite a major aspect of running the business to suit both him and pretty much everyone else working for them. THAT'S how a business SHOULD be conducted.
I love that NieR Automata almost got canceled because Yoko Taro wanted more sleep. Do you and never change Yoko Taro!
P.S. - "S**t SquareEnix! NieR Automata T-Shirt!" If you know, you know.
I’m in the alt universe where Fornite was cancelled. World peace has been achieved and no human is going hungry.
And thanks to the unified peace treaty under the space pope, Half Life 4 has been announced, continuing the epic Half-Life 3 we got in 2016.
@@Kippemon What about portal 3? did they make that?
@@Kippemon 😂 they were also able to bring back Harambe from the dead.
@@ToadyEN You do realize if Fortnite was cancelled, Bioshock: Infinite wouldn't have released, right? Plus, current Fortnite is fun.
"Performance enhancing vegetable enthusiast" - love it.
Seeing you explain who Popeye was made me remember how old I am
Wow! I also have a schedule that makes it harder to wake up in time for the usual 9/9:30 start and it took me months to figure out a solution. Yoko Taro and I are even more alike than I thought!
I mean, to be fair, the comparison to Ridge Racer probably became a bit less of a painful one once that one press conference happened, and suddenly Ridge Racer was only something you could say by saying "Riiiiiiidge Racerrrrrrr!" in as awkward a way as possible, alongside "Giant Enemy Crab" and "599 US Dollars"
Actually can relate to the Nier Automata story very well.
Same the idea that NieR: Automata almost didnt get made scares me a bit since the game had like a huge Impact on me
I relate to the first director. I hate waking up early. Then again who doesn't
"Waking up early" isn't the thing I hate, I hate it more to be forced to interrupt sleep at a certain time so I can do shit I'm obliged to do. I'm working shifts in a factory and every shift is fine, except morning shift. In the afternoon I sleep until around 10, wake up on my own and got time to do some chores and stuff, eat, work, eat, do a few things I enjoy and sleep. On night shift I basically switch sleep and work time of other people and got the whole afternoon for myself (again, without having a fixed wake-up time, but more like a rough average when I get up). But on early shifts... I absolutely hate knowing I HAVE to wake up at a certain time or otherwise I'd make my life a lot harder than necessary. It messes with my sleep quality, so I need more sleep which I can't get because I have to adult most of the time and still want to do nice things aswell.
For me it's the "have to interact with other people and function like a person early in the morning" that's the issue. I'm awake around 7 each morning to tend to my cats, but I'm not around other people and I can't take my time bumbling around without any forced cheer or coherency. I also like it because it means that no one else in the house is up at the same time as me, so I get proper peace and quiet to do what I want for a while.
Yeah i understand those, it's not like i get enough sleep anyway aha so when i do I'd like it to not be interrupted
@@secrets_behind_the_fan9185 Agreed. I definitely am not getting enough sleep despite all my attempts. I just make sure I've had some form of caffeine and food before I have to deal with anyone most days.
I tend to not sleep for a couple of days, or sleep very little over several days then have a crash day where my sleep debt eats my whole day off. I actually prefer really early shifts because I'm going to be awake more than likely anyway and just don't bother to sleep leading up to my shift and occasionally my brain will let me rest for a bit later on. Yes, this is incredibly unhealthy, but nothing I've tried has helped remedy this and it means I have a very weird concept of time, but I a lot of time to read and game, so...win? Maybe?😅
There really is a Miyamoto-designed Popeye game that was also released in 1982! It was a UK arcade exclusive, but also got ported to Famicom/NES. It's extremely similar to Donkey Kong, except bad and dumb. 😂
I had it on the C64!
I didn’t know Miyamoto designed it. Cool.
We had it on our unlicensed *cough illegal cough* 31-in-1 NES cartridge.
It also got a proper Northern America release in the states, so we Yanks got to play it in the arcades as well.
I remember it being markedly different from Donkey Kong in that your main objective was to catch little hearts (which represented blown kisses from Olive Oyl) or musical notes (played by Olive on a little harp) before they reached the bottom edge of the screen -- unlike Donkey Kong, your main antagonist was Bluto (Brutus) who followed Popeye around & could either punch, slap or pounce on Popeye from an upper level (Bluto could also jump up & try to hit Popeye from below). Worse yet, Bluto could also throw beer bottles @ Popeye from a distance!
The Popeye game did get made, I saw it in an arcade cabinet in the US when I was a kid. Once. I was under 10 years old, but I do remember it seemed unnecessarily confusing. Maybe you could find some footage next time that story makes a list?
To be honest, I'd prefer to not have to get up to work at 9:30 in the morning as well. But that's because I'm what's called an owl chronotype, and prior to noon I just don't function and pose a danger to others and myself.
I can't wait for next weeks video where Andy discusses games released in alternate universes that we never got.
Donkey Kong would have made a lot more sense if it was a Popeye game. I'd love to slip into an alternative reality to see how that would have turned out. Imagine, Popeye in every place Mario is now with Olive Oil instead of Princess Toadstool.
I didn't know that Bioshock Infinite almost didn't get made until now, I'm glad it did get completed though it's a game I enjoyed playing.
I just wish it wasn't a part of Bioshock. The game's story would've been more appealing as its own thing.
9:30 am wtf!! I have to get out of bed at 5 am just to get to work on time by 6:30 am that lucky bastard lol
1:54: The guy's telling him to calm down × ∞ 🤣
I love Nier Automata, but I can sympathise with the director for wanting a sleep-in!
Yoko taro laughing and flopping on that guy and his arm gestures remind me of the time I saw a vid of buckethead watching a commercial for cheap baseball cards and gets so excited he cant help but trip and knock shit over. Never saw anyone so excited in my life lol
I hate how clips of Fortnite always just make me think about how excited everyone would be if that stuff was added when I actually played it
Taro is the hero all us freelancers need.
What was left out in the Fortnite segment was that one of my favorite games was sacrificed in order to pay those expensive budgets.
R.I.P. Paragon. Here’s hoping Overprime is a decent likeness.
Yep paragon and the original idea for Fortnite being abandoned and cannibalized are why I don't support epic
@@Gomenred I mean there's a list, but those are definitely on the list.
Everytime I want a snack I become a 'Fridge Racer'...
Are you MyPillow-guy?
@@SvenElven Nope, I'm just some Schmoe from Finland.
Makes you wonder what games were made in another universe with us living in the alt universe where those didn’t get made.
@@capturedflame ooh, shit. Yeah. I bet you’re right about that one.
"Platinum Games' start of the work day is at 9:30 a.m., and as a freelancer, I can't wake up that early."
Me who has to set the alarm clock for 5 a.m. before day shift: "Oh, to have your problems..."
10:47 - Oh it's paradise man. Video Games are now experiencing their most healthy and lucrative spike in business due to kids actually wanting to play a wide variety of games instead of just the one goddamn thing. Best timeline ever.
9:56 kids, ask your parents about Popeye 🤣
Slight issue with that last entry: they DID make the Popeye game. While the original game ended up being redone to feature new characters DK, Mario, and Pauline, the next year Popeye WAS released, with identical gameplay. I remember a local bowling alley had an arcade cabinet for Popeye. It's out there, somewhere. So, Donkey Kong wasn't ALMOST Popeye... because Popeye still happened. Both games did indeed see the light of day, and in the same era.
As much as I love NieR:Automata, I can completely sympathise with Yoko Taro not wanting to get up early in the morning
He can do that because he had the reputation and privilege, the devs that's working on it doesn't have that privilege tho.
Yoko maybe a face of an IP but his status and position Makes him an important diva.
As a multimedia artist that had an insomnia, 4 hours of sleep is already a privilege.
But gotta admit the flexible working hours should be implemented more in offices as long as the employee finish the task that day.
And if we did get the popeye arcade game in an era where they still might have been making popeye cartoons, we wouldn't have the unforgettable phenomenon; popeye for switch, 2021
A 3D rendered stripped down version of the famous proto - Kong arcade game. And yes, it was stripped down, I'm pretty sure it was Rerez that found out that the cancelled arcade version would have had more content than the switch version has. Like another music track
0:55 Thanks for briefly including Robin's super reaction to the Automata reveal 😂 He's a German game journalist from the YT channel "Hooked".
"Super Popeye Odysey" Omg I laughed so hard! 🤣
Just think, there's an alternate universe where you break blocks to get cans of spinach.
Wait are you saying we nearly didn't get Nier Automata, the world would have not been the same without it, it was an incredible game and that soundtrack was sublime, one of my favourite game soundtracks of all time :)
Nier Automata changed my world as a gamer. I don’t know what I would be as a gamer without it.
I’m surprised about the Pokémon one. I had a similar overheating issue in the mid nineties. I just removed one of the side panels and taped a box fan to it (blowing out so as to not blow dust and such into the tower of course.
There was actually a Popeye game I remember playing and it was like Nintendo graphics but I played it over seas and it was a 10 cent arcade with a collection of games
I witnessed it too!
@@Ramsey276one one of the first games I played as a kid, in an arcade in the 80s, while my grandma was doing laundry, iirc....
No mans sky nearly canned by a flood? Could have switched the name to No mans dry...
if the fine folks at outside extra tell you guys i was asking for andy, i was confused between your 2 channels. glad to see andy still doing this after all these years.
The donkey kong one actually makes sense, because in the popeye cartoons Bluto was a big hairy guy that would try to kidnap Olive Oyl and Popeye would save her
It's easy to see how the game was just re-skinned while keeping the same concept
fighting for the right to not get up early and winning that battle is Nobel prize worthy.
If it makes you feel any better, in Cuphead there are references of Bluto and Olive Oyl with the bosses Captain Brineybeard and Sally Stageplay respectively. So in reality, we already got a Popeye game....just without Popeye in it.
Love the yamaha keyboard soundtrack on that Goldeneye footage.
I didn't realize Frank Sidebottom had a twin!
I'm glad I'm not the only one old enough to remember Frank Sidebottom. (Also, he had a better head)
Next video should be games that were cancelled for stupid reasons. Yes, I am still salty about Prey 2.
What happened to Prey 2?
Wow that's sad. Prey was fun
@@jellysharkbat Prey 2 was almost complete. But after the studio was aquired by Bethesda, they canned the game for "not being up to their quality standards"
@@wotwott2319 Guru Larry did such a video some time back, though I don't think it had Prey 2 on it... it DID, however, have Timesplitters 4 on it... an entire completed game canceled all because marketing couldn't figure out which character to put on the box art.
Wait.... there isn't a Super Popeye Odyssey? What the hell have i been playing?
You can't just throw shade at Shaq-fu and think someone ain't gonna call you on it lol
I wish I can implement a company wide policy change on work hours, just so I can sleep in
There was however a donkey Kong esc style Popeye game. I don’t know if it made it to any consoles but I played it a bunch as an arcade cabinet. Course this was back in the 80s at my old Chuck E. Cheese.
3:00 NOW we know why they were glitchy messes
The thing about No Man’s Sky is that if they had started with a (more) reasonable goal of say… ten planets, they could make them far more detailed and put more work into the actual features, game play, and art. Then just add new planets every so often. When the next gen console comes out just remaster the game/art and keep adding content.
Frankly, I don’t know why most open world games aren’t made that way.
Thank you Yoko Taro
With regards to the developers' computers breaking down during development of the original Pokemon games, it was probably less about the power needed to run the games and more the stress placed on the computers by being powered on and heavily used for long periods of time while the developers worked. Computers of the mid '90s did not always have the best endurance, and I would be willing to bet that A. the computers were secondhand and/or old, and B. the offices did not have the best cooling.
Bah!
Popeye is my gold standard of butt-kicking, I'll have you know!
Nintendo got the Popeye license eventually anyway. It was one of the launch titles for the Famicom.
I can sympathize with Yoko Taro, waking up in the morning sucks
Dude I can understand Taro 100% I'm in the IT field and hell I'm not waking up at 9:30 am! we're mostly still awake at 7am lol ahahaha
I rushed to my phone when the Pokemon battle music started. It's by best friend's ringtone. Y'all got me good with that one.
If you can believe it I have actually seen an Arcade Cabinet featuring what Donkey Kong would have looked like if it was made into a Popeye Game its was at some MIni Golf place that I honestly don't remember where it is now ;D
but I do distinctly remember you played as Popeye you were trying to save Olive Oyl from Bluto and your health was indicated by hearts ;D