CHARACTER or SKIN? Android 17 in Dragon Ball Sparking Zero
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is Android 17 (Z) an actual playable character or just a character skin? We go through all the evidence we have so far to figure out what to expect from Dragon Ball Sparking Zero.
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0:00 Intro
0:28 How Did We Get Here?
4:04 Roster Screen
4:40 Trailer's Theme
5:18 Android 17's Ultimate
7:32 What We Actually Know
9:04 Final Words
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That transition between the fighters and xeniverse move was actually clean asf
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@@dwybs1652 how?
after everything u said it sounds like hes just an unconfirmed character that will be showcased later. The close ups were just teaser making you all excited for the next topic which will probably be endless power or something to that effect
But they already showed his best moves😂what else are they gonna show in his "debut trailer" then?
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Full Power Energy Ball. Lol
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If Xenoverse can make new combos for DBS 17, it should be no trouble for Sparking Zero. They can center DBS 17's moveset around barrier techniques, that was his fighting style in ToP. Z 17 fought differently compared to ToP 17. It'll be a wasted opportunity if they're not separate characters.
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@@dwybs1652 And I can prove why your dad left with the milk and never came back
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@@interloper9589He is probably a bot, they replied to all the other comments with the exact same text, just “I proved why sparking will failure”
Maybe they will share the same slot but change movesets, like some versions of Naruto on Storm
You cant just throw in another Grand Master Hawk shoutout in the middle of the video and get away with it.
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@@dwybs1652 cool, still going to buy it
I’m hoping for it just being a team ultimate, since that would open up another spot on the roster, and since getting team ultimates would be awesome. Idk how likely that is though, since the speed vs strength scan indicated that Jeice and Burter’s ultimates both summon the other, which makes it sound like “summoning another character for an ultimate” is just going to be a thing for this game.
If yall played bt3 yall would know 17 ultimate was him with 18. Same with jeice and burter. It’s no different for this game. 17 z and super are different
@@Gfromda23 I am aware of that, but sometimes games change between installments.
@@GurrenPrime could be. But its a direct sequel
@@Gfromda23 and Street Fighter 6 is a direct sequel to Street Fighter 5, but those games are very different. All that said, I’m NOT expecting the 17s to be the same character, and I’m NOT expecting the attack with 18 to be a team super. I do believe they’ll be different characters, with Z 17 having a super that summons 18, and Super 17 having a super by himself. I just personally think that it’d be an improvement if they didn’t do that.
If they do BT5, I hope they they bring this back from RB2. I never liked characters just showing up for cinematic attack. lol
Obviously we are getting Andorid 17 (GT)
Nobody can beat me when I'm super 17
The best version and the only reason why 17 should get 2 slots
@@ShonenGoon3 slots. If anything super should be a skin of Z lol. Y’all forgot who came first. But anyways it’s gonna be 3 slots for z super and gt
@debategoon I'm thinking Bandai is saving GT and movie characters for DLC since they will probably get a lot of money off of selling characters like DBZ Broly, Janemba, Beast Gohan, and more
@@thatonenerd9252 could be but that’s bad marketing tbh. Cutting characters we previously had and re selling as dlc. Rather buy something new
I remember people saying that there was ONLY going to be DBS Future Trunks with the Sword and not the Z version. Even some claiming that DBS Future Trunks was the costume. Then this trailer comes out to heavily disprove that. I imagine its the same for Android 17 (Z) & (DBS). Especially since both versions fight very differently from each other, or at the very least have distinguishing move sets to set them apart from each other. This is what I believe to be the case so far.
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Thank you for the shout-out yet again. A day before my birthday, too. I appreciate you, Globku. For real. 💙🤗
Regarding the video; I'm sure Z 17 will be playable & he & DBS 17 will be separate unless they give us the option to select more than one Android 17 within 17's icon itself. Meanwhile I'm just sitting here wondering if we're going to get GT 17 &/or Hellfighter 17. 🤔
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@@dwybs1652wrong
Inb4 we get Android 17 (Z) and Android 17 (GT) and Super Android 17, making it 4 types of 17s because why not
I have a feeling we might get an 'Artificial Beings' type trailer, one focused on the androids, since we have 5 in Z (Cell having 3-4 forms makes it 7 or 8), then Super 17 from GT AND 17 from Super, Android 8.
There are virtually 3 versions of GT 17
The only GT 17 that would be a different character is Super 17. Hell Fighter 17 is the exact same as Future 17 in Trunks' timeline. The original GT 17 is the same as Z, just with a jacket.
We don't even know if this game will include gt yet lol. There's been no indication that it will so far
@SliferStreaming
Most likely, either completely DLC or just focus on the more important GT characters as base and include more for DLC.
@SliferStreaming yeah GT is more than likely gonna be DLC but I'd still like key GT characters to be in at least (Bandai don't forget Omega Shenron please)
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I mean, he could be called "Androind 17 (Super)" because in the future there will be an "Android 17 (GT)" as DLC
No cuz there’s a 17 super and Z easy
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heavy reach, if that were dlc it would just be Super 17
@@karenbetanerd4396 knowing the Tenkaichi series, it would be 17 and then super 17 (like it was in BT3)
@@karenbetanerd4396 exactly lmao
The line during the Sadistic dance scene sounds like a story line "Hm not what I was hoping for, lets have some fun" it sounds similar to the anime when Gohan knocked them into the rubble during their fight.
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Im 100% positive 17 will have two versions. The character deserves it and besides, Z and Super had very differente demeanors, Z was a more villanesque character while Super was a very calmed and chilled character. Besides, they both have enough different attacks to fill both iterations.
Meanwhile 18 only needs a skin for her Super iteration. She just didin´t display enough different techniques for her to have a whole new character, sadly.
Exacly. And the dialogue while interacting with other characters will also be different with 17 from Super
100% is crazy.
Maybe he’ll have a GT version but I’m 99% sure it’ll be a skin.
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@@MOTIONSOLDIERRhe’s not a skin. Easily 2 characters
@@Gfromda23 if he was 2 characters they would have given him a slot on the reveal screen. He’s a skin. It’s obvious
Bro please he’s my favorite character give him his 2 spots on the roster
Is he unique enough of a character to really warrant two spots though?
@@pablogarcia6188Yes, if Goku and Gohan can have a million different versions, I'm sure we can afford other characters having two or three.
@@pablogarcia6188 yes of course lol
@@Hikari12217 Gohan changes Physicaly thats why he needs multiple Versions you cant have Kid Gohan be an alt Skin for adult Gohan because it is litterally impossible
and About Goku even tho i would have loved to only have one Goku who can transform instead of 4 He is the Main Character after all so it is not wierd atall to have multiple versions of him
Only reason for 17 having two slots on the roster is if one is Super 17 from gt. If they add him as the 2nd 17 cool. If not then he should be one slot with 3 different skins
Didnt we also see Saibaman in the speed vs power trailer? He didnt join the roster screen.
Did we? Where exactly?
Wut ?!?!?!?!?!?
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@@mrwuang8638 I dont remember, I remember something but it might have just been some clickbait
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I think he will be future 17 and a separate character from dbs and he got some focus as a clue for the next trailer.
Yessir
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The editing in this video is more fun than usual. I love this editor already😂❤️
I feel like you have to have Z 17 because he is an important fight for Piccolo. Probably his most important fight.
Valid point
That's why they're including the skin
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@@dwybs1652”i proved why sparking will failure “ off of that sentence I ain’t going to hold my breath
@@NinjaKIngAcemeh we’ll see when they announce it
17 (Z) can't be a reskin due to that combo move he pulled off with 18 and never did THAT in super soooo
Exactly
This is 18's ultimate in Raging Blast 2, 17 has another ultimate in Raging Blast 2, and if we have both on the team we can do a joint ultimate, if we do it with 18 this ultimate comes out that came out in the trailer and if we do it with 17 another final set comes out, therefore what was shown was 18 not 17 so it makes sense that they don't show it yet
I think we should look at bt3 more than raging blast lol
@@Gfromda23 The fact that it is a reboot of the BT3 saga does not mean that they do not use things from Raging Blast, in fact they already did it with that of diverting powers, it was also the most similar game to BT in all this time and practically I think Spike did it too did.
@@JuniorLJRC yeah but first of all this is a DIRECT sequel to bt3. So that why I’m saying this should be a tenakchi game with maybe a sprinkle of RB elements. This game should move, feel , play and have all the features of tenkachi
@@Gfromda23I mean raging is similar to tenkaichi
@@goodbye6676 yeah but it still isn’t as good as tenkachi to me. Which is why I would love it if it would be just tenkachi with maybe a sprinkle of raging blast here and there
Not sure if it was intentional but the timing of the Tenkaichi 3 beat drop and 18 and 17 ult was chefs kiss 5:41
I think 17 Z will be its own character. I believe the could have included him in the trailer to hint what the next trailer will showcase. Like a villains only trailer
Man, team based supers would be so good tho
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2 different version, but i can see 18 having 17 show up for supers
My money's on the idea of team supers/ults, hopefully if he is a skin then it's the xenoverse way of doing skins with different super/ults with each skin but same feel on basic animations and combos
That was his ultimate in bt3. He’s a different character
It would be cool if they made it do you can swap out supers and skills with different outfits similar to the storm series
lol no cuz first of all that’s not tenkachi, second that’s a different character then so u might as well just have 17 z lol
They had move customization in the RB series and are taking aspects from it, though even if I want them to, they probably are not going to have it here.
Besides, certain variants would match well. I don't see DBS 17 doing Sadistic Dance if they were 1 character and just skins.
@@EternalStorm796 yeah we don’t know yet if they doing swappable moves. Only time will tell
If they do add team supers then i want a SSBK Goku and SSBE Vegeta team ultimate from when they teamed up against Jiren.
I have a feeling that we’re going to be able to choose our own supers which can possibly explain why 17 might have only 1 character slot, kinda like the ninja storm games and how you can change the ultimates between certain characters
lol no they are different characters most likely
It’s really not that deep
It's not. But that's how all these phags are
yes it is.
It is
About the "doesn't fit the theme" arguments,even tho it does make sense but at the same time does Jiece really fit in the "Power VS Speed" theme
I mean he is not really known for his Speed nor his strenght he was just there because Burter was there so we really can know why he wasn't confirmed
Jeice fits that theme before 17 fits master and apprentice lol
@@Gfromda23 Really, putting Jeice in Speed makes me believe they're the only types in the game. Because he seems more like Technical fighter/type to me than a Speed type. lol
@@Gfromda23 But at the end of the Day they both dont fit regardless of who fits more than the others
as Globku said they could've not showed him at all
In my personal opinion I still think he will be a different Version because otherwise what is the point of calling him Android 17 (Super) but until he is in one of those hexagons at the end of each trailer cant know for a Fact
@@EternalStorm796 I really hope power and speed aren’t the only ones too lol. I mean idk I’m still on the fence about even having types in this game. What’s yalls opinions?
@@habderrahmane yeah we just gotta wait and see hopefully v jumps maybe reveal him soon?
This game is looking so good!
personally from what I understood when the sky is dark is that an ultimate attack is launched, the ultimate attack of Android 17 (super) we saw it, that of Android 18 (z) we saw, so for me in the trailer we see the ultimate attack of Android 17 (z) which is similar to the ultimate attack of this character in Budokai Tenkaichi 3, but I don't know why they didn't put it in the trailer roster I didn't understand but I'm sure there will be an Android 17 (super) and (z) otherwise they wouldn't specify a (super) next to Android 17.
I think it might be for a trailer about cyborgs
tomorrow we might see new vjump scans, It's been always on the 15th
Just look at his face, hes clearly another type of 17
What if they’re doing something different where they count them as one character that you can switch with in game.
im kind of rooting for skin tbh- with characters like future gohan and master roshi havig two slots, im a bit worried how many individual characters we'll actually have at this rate
i also just never really cared for how android 17 seems to get a lot more attention than android 18 these days, itd be nice for them to be even again
not to mention, having android 17 be one slot opens up a slot for android 16 or android 21 or any android or another cell form
Wasted slots isn’t a thing everyone’s gonna be in here regardless
I am pretty sure that is gt 17’s ult before he transforms into super 17 and we are getting either a gt themed trailer soon and this would’ve spoiled the surprise OR android themed one and that would again spoil the surprise
Absolutely not lol it’s z 17
@@Gfromda23 and you know that how?
@@shayukitsune8879 idk why u think this is gt 17 ult before he transforms? He doesn’t do that in tenkachi. 17 z ultimate from bt3 was the ultimate u saw in the trailer, literally saying he’s coming back. Separate characters. Even on the character website it’s 17(super). Basically saying we are getting a Z 17
@@Gfromda23 why wasnt he on the hexagon if he was prominantly apart of THE TRAILER?
with the new scans my guess would be that the Z17 ultimate is a team attack! they just revealed the 5v5 is coming back to the game, so team ultimates are likely a thing, like we saw with Burter and Jeice! Next trailer is gonna be hype asf
That was 17 ultimate in bt3 anyways
What doesn't make sense to me is why they would bother distinguishing 17 as 'Super' from the start while 18 is just 18. They could have just called him Android 17 as a starting point and make changes to accommodate the development later, but noooo...
Exactly
the name android 17 (super) could be the name of the character and 17 Z for the skin
This is the most unlikely theory of them all but this made me hope that they'd add the skill slots from Budokai 3 to Sparking Zero and the reason why he has two ultimates is because you can swap between them.... This is definitely not happening but I'll still hold on to the smallest bit of hope that Budokai will get some love this year too
They have move customization in RB1 and RB2, but you couldn't change the ultimates.
They most likely won't bring that over, but I really want them too.
Honestly on some ways I kinda hope it’s a skin because we might get customisable movesets. Which will benefit so many characters and can fit in so many references
Nah they’ll be different most likely
Why is this such a big deal though? It's 17. He's in the game. If it's a skin it's not the end of the world tbh. but if it's a separate character too I'm not complaining either. I'm fine with either.
Yeah, until the site updates, I'm going with Z 17 just being a skin, and that Sadistic Dance is probably just a Raging Blast style Team Ultimate. Only thing holding that back is the fact that it emphasizes on 17 *(SUPER)* like it does with other characters but that might be because they're making 17 a composite character and prioritizing his DBS self like FighterZ did. We shall see.
They are literally different characters
They're not doing anything "composite"
That wouldn't make sense if they're going back to their traditional era based roster of BT...
Maybe Super electric strike could be a team super, not an ultimate, or a situation like how in raging blast that let u change super attacks on some characters
lol no this ain’t raging blast
Look at all the characters, they get their own little title thingy. Now look at 17 and 18. They didn’t, they were supporting characters during the trailer that they will add into another trailer with them included.
Focusing only on the ultimate move is the problem, they both clearly have different fighting styles and it makes 0 sense for future 17 to fight like top 17.
Exactly lol
i do think it will be two skins just since i think we will be able to chance moves like in raging blast games
This isn’t raging blast lmao. If that’s the case early mid and end wouldn’t come back for goku
Globku, have you been playing the One Punch Man mobile game? Love your videos ❤
Did you think about them bringing super and ultimate selection like raging blast.
i like super 17 from Gt his design is cold .
What if they just made variants for the characters like in the xenoverse games where, for example, Goku had different variants that had other moves and another costumes than the goku's base variant. So Android 17 just might have another variant with the Z costume and moves
No this isn’t xenoverse🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I still think android 17 is being saved for a theme with trailer with red ribbon army or dr gero's creation trailer cell is confirmed too but has no trailer yet and no gameplay trailer yet or showcase of his other forms.
The reason why people say 17 and 18 were not the focus is because they get no name introduction. They are the only in the trailer that do not get introduced due to not being master and student.
Facts
Ever thought that maybe theres going to be more than 1 17 since z 17 and 17 from super fight differently from one another and that 17 and 18 are going to have the same ultimate also master and apprentice was to show gohan and trunks fighting as teacher and student against their enemy and has nothing to do with 17
''Huge division in the fanbase'' Reality: Just Globku x'D
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Do another Roster Prediction but this time just go with what character you want to see in the game doesnt have to be realistic would be a cool video!
I'm on the side that thinks Android 17 and Android # 17 (Super) are two different characters. The distinction between Z, Super, or GT(?), wouldn't be made unless some other variant of the character is/is planned to be playable. Plus there's enough material between the Android Saga and the Tournament of Power for them to have their own individual movesets.
Exactly
I hope they just bring back capsules and you can change kits. Earning and unlocking them is so fun, best way for grind.
To answer your question why they zoomed in on him: tease...
or 3: a skin may have its own ultimate👀
lol no it’s tenakchi my boy he’s his own character
@@Gfromda23 Thats why i said "may" as they can implement it as a new a new feature.
@@edwardgoliath5295 nah cuz other characters would’ve had the same thing. Just follow the format 17 z is a different character
@@Gfromda23 Lol im still not taking it as a fact until he is shown to be his own character.
@@edwardgoliath5295 well yeah that’s the only way for yall to see lmao. Same thing we have to go through with trunks like it’s tenkachi guys, they are different characters lmao
Maybe it’s like Raging Blast where you can unlock multiple special moves for one character. Maybe they used the Z 17 skin and used an unlockable ultimate 🤔
Nah it’s tenkachi fam 17 his own character
@@Gfromda23 Yeah, but they might take inspiration from other games like Raging Blast.
@@freemiumplayer7347 yeah I agree but not in this case. I’m sure 17 z will be revealed soon
I'm still trying to figure out if we are getting a different version of Piccolo since Budokai Tenkaichi had him early/end.
Exactly
What if the reason z 17 isn’t in the roster screen is because the trailer creators forgot to put him there?
Okay but what I REALLY want to know is if we're getting Hell Fighter 17 and Super 17
It’s obvious we gonna get 2 A17 as they got different personalities : One is based on the one from the future so he’s a sadistic killing machine and the other is a family man who loves nature and animals. Just look at A17 face at 4:35, do it look like a face A17 (Super) could make ?
A17 won’t have 2 personalities and ultimate attacks.
Lmao exactly
I think the android 17 we see in the new trailer isn't the playable character, he appears in android 18's supers just like burter and jiece do, and maybe the cutscenes we saw were of android 18. So we need to see more trailers to be sure 17 (Z) is a playable character or not.
I’m sure he’s playable
Piccolo, Yamcha, and Krillin all got re-revealed in the last trailer, so it's not like 17 can't be re-revealed in a later trailer with Z version, Super version, and 18.
Facts
The only thing that is really bugging and itching my head is that I genuinely can't see Android 17 from Super doing those moves with 18 with such a murderous face and attitude. He isn't that guy anymore! Makes no sense for him to be just a skin
I mean, look at the thimbnail! Do you see 17 from Super doing that smile? 😭
Exactly he has different moves
Honestly hoping that it’s a skin so we get an extra character slot.
Is it possible 18/17 are rotating characters you choose 18 from select screen then you can freely switch in battle 2 characters in one
No lmao I’m thinking yall never played tenkachi
I'm on camp Skin. Android 17 had a pretty shallow moveset in BT3. It wouldn't surprise me if they just combined them into one character
Nah 17 moveset if yall played bt3 was nice lol. Actually he was hard to fight
I think with characters like this. They should be 1 character and you can change around their moveset like in the old game abd raging blast. Saves space and gives customization🤷🏽♂️ you could unlock the moves as you progress in the story.
Nah because that isn’t tenkachi and everyone else has variants
aint team supers already shown?
burter and jeice did one in the power vs speed trailer and they are listed as separate characters
Does that mean it's separate from a character's supers though? Mr Satan would summon Buu in BT3.
@@MrSTVRi assume burter and jeice had their own ults in bt3
@@D4ve793burter ultimate in bt3 was with jeice so
@@Gfromda23 my mistake i only played the raging blasts
Both Burter and Jeice's ults in BT3 were Purple Comet Attack with one summoning the other, so most likely they're just getting carried over to Sparking Zero.
Maybe swapable supers and ultimates for some characters like in Raging Blast?
I doubt it
I think Z 17 and Super 17 had pretty different fighting styles so I dont see why he wouldn't get his own character slot
android 17’s forhead is soo big 😭
Its Master and Students. Its not about 17 or 18 trailer
Is someone a Japanese translator? Because if I recall correctly Freeza (Super) with called Freeza (final form) so maybe Android 17 (Super) is a translation error?
lol no they will both have super and z versions
I dont think it's a skin they're fighting style are way to different and we know tenkaichi combos are so detailed they're all from the anime
Is 17 a skin for 18? 🤔 Maybe the same move set but can switch in and out of each character??
Now why tf would a dragonball game especially a tenkachi 1 combine 17 and 18
With two 17 characters they can do a proper fusion to Super 17. That's also a compelling reason to have two characters.
Or they are just their own character
I'm honestly hoping we get Hell Fighter 17 for the Super 17 fusion
@@theoverseer1775 it’ll only be 3 17’s
What if he's listed as 17 (super) because he has a lot more to work with in super but 18 doesn't get anything New in super so it's not specified ?
Omg he’s listed that because he is a different variation then z that’s it
or maybe he only does that ultimate if u have both androids on your team
I believe that 17 Z is just the name when yuo use the skin, and 17 super when you use the super alt.
Like a videl (short hair) and videl (pony tail) or somthing idk.
I´m hopping its a boss thing, where the 17 and 18 fight along side each other and it is so hard Future gohan dies with you as the player, and the cutscene plays idk
Nah they are different characters
I have information that could lead to the confirmation of Android 17... - **gets sniped**
Maybe you can pick a loadout, like you can for your partners in XenoVerse 2
Bruh no this isn’t xenoverse
Globku: We won't see anymore Sparking Zero till Summer Game Fest
Me: *looks at website that says new sparking zero info every month* About that....
HAHAHA seriously this led to a whole video XD
Even if the ultimate is a team attack I still think Android 17 Z could be a different character. In Super he's a lot less sadistic so the evil expression on his face, the one in the thumbnail wouldn't fit with Android 17 Super.
So it could still be a team attack, but the version of Android 17 you pick will determine his facial expressions, and change the expression of Android 18 too since she's changed since Z as well.
They will be different
I told you once, there is a small chance that android 18 is a double character like dokkan not like in fighterz but also kinda
Well too bad this isn’t fighterz or dokkan. This is tenkachi and he’s a separate character
Why not have the same slot but when you will chose appears 2 17's the old and the Super? Or they will get the same treatment as Android 18 on Fighterz that is 1 character but in some specials 17 will appears.
Also we don't got Android 18 (Super) either.
Fun fact: the Android 17 is "master" of Cell Juniors in the manga
Umm no 17 z should just be his own character like he always been. This isn’t fighters or anything else but tenkachi
or maybe we getting super 17 aka android 17 (gt) which would also make sense
We are including z lol idk what’s so hard about that
It really should just be two costumes under one character, the same as 18.
We literally just got Z Future Trunks sword as a separate character when Future Trunks (super) was already confirmed , yet people still question 17 Z being a separate character from 17(super)? 🙄
People must have 3 brain cells total to think the character grid at the end of the trailers is the actual select screen lol
I don't see why it can't just be a skin with different ults, in raging blast you could choose what supers you had on your character, and with goku you could change how your spirit bomb worked, it doesn't have to be a whole ass new character.
Because this isn’t raging blast first of all. Second 17 z and super has different moves. They wouldn’t label him 17 super if 17 Z wasn’t coming.
Maybe you can customize skin and skills of the characters like on raging blast
Nah cuz this isn’t raging blast
@@Gfromda23 They have stuff from raging blast, like the beam deflect, so why not?
@@JuanLOL79 yeah 1 think from raging blast. Thats it. This is still a tenkachi game
"Huge divide in the DB community" Oh wow, I haven't heard that before.
Globku for me personally it would be weirder to not make 17 super his own character given the fact in the series he got a lot of screen and lots of new very unique moves enough to make two characters sooo i think it was then playing us not including him on the reveal. Other things is maybe they went like hey they are not master and disciple don’t reveal them and thats the end.
Facts
Personally i think there's only 1 17 but you can Chenge which skill and ultimatele he uses like in ultimate tenkaichi
No cuz this isn’t ultimate tenkachi
@@Gfromda23 it's also a feature in raging blast and before you say something stupid let me remind you sparkling zero already takes Idea from raging blast
@@charmandertheproexe yeah 1 mechanic I already debated this topic. It’s still tenakchi 4. He has (super) by his name in the website. We are just waiting for the z variant to be confirmed. If u can change his skill and ultimate then why not give him his variant lmao
We need the 2 characters for SUPER 17 :)