4.7L STROKER One Year Later...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- It is exactly one year to the day that I first put the 4.7 Stroker in my 2002 Jeep Wrangler TJ. Find out all about the issues I’m having in this video!
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I just purchased a Golen 4.6 stroker for my 03 Tj. It was a bit more expensive then other options out there but their reputation, quality of build and customer service is well worth the extra cost. Plus the motor is already broke in, oil changed and everything retorqued as well as dyno tested with the video of your motor and dyno sent to you. My motor put out 383 foot pounds of torque and 278 hp. Not to shabby for a drop in motor.
Honestly I should have waited another year, saved some more cash, and went with Golen.
I second that. Goin on 5 years with my golens never had a issue with it
What is the name of the company you got it from bud. Thanks for the info
@@motorheadproductions88if you dont mind answering, how much all in from golen? Im in canada so id be paying more is why im curious
@@XiiPuNiSh3RiiX my motor alone (crate, Dyno (video email of break in and Dyno) and shipping.
$11,000
I'm into my YJ build for almost $20,000 doing it myself..from a 2.5 with an ax5 transmission..
(Bought a new Ax15 manual transmission, (gears, rebuild kit and slipyoke eliminator kit for my np231j rebuilt it myself) new rear driveshaft being built now. Twin 15 gallon drift tanks installed in the back of the jeep instead of underneath it. Still not sure if I am going with the mishimoto or the racing 3000+ cfm electric fan radiator combo (one is 7-9 hundred or $1400.00) plus I plan on mounting it behind my seats incorporating it into my rear roll cage..
I like my Jeep YJ.. 😂
Hell I bought it ten years ago for $2500.. it was a no brainer than to buy a "Fiat" they call Jeep.. 😂 easy to work on and completely Manual except for the Holley Sniper EFI.. it's a piece of cake to Install..and Chad is right there if you need him (phone or Email) and he threw in a few shirts and stickers to boot..🤙😎🐼🤙🙌👏🙌
This is why you taking the time to build the motor so you know it was done properly I never trust anyone
Fellow Pennsylvanian here. I dipped outta social media a good while ago. I use it for some light reading and information only. World of difference. Hope your happy in whatever you choose.
Thanks for the video. I’ve been considering buying one of their engines for my YJ, but decided on rebuilding the engine in it as a family project in the garage. Luckily my dad has built many engines, and I’m skilled mechanically. Now that you posted this, I’m glad I decided to go that route. They also went up about $1000 in a year, like everything else has.
Thanks for your videos. I appreciate the time you put into them, and the regular guy nature of them.
I have heard so many people's story on strokers and other high performance mods on 4.0's. Staying stock and staying healthy is the way I have chosen. I'm 23 years down the road in mine and going for 23 more.
None of this is a Stroker vs Stock argument
@@65SEEJAYFIVE I realize that , but that's our argument.
@@douglasroberts2250 I never understood why the best engine ever put in any Jeep, the 4.0 is ever replaced. Each time it's usually people who just fail to do the routine maintenance and/or rag doll it like an imbecile, then have the audacity to bad mouth it.
I have an '05 TJ Rocky Mtn 4.0 with almost 164k on it. Just took my sons on a 14 hour r/t to see their pop pop out of state. Had zero issues. I maintain this TJ meticulously because it's by far the best, most fun and reliable vehicle I've ever had.
It's my dd, but it's off roaded on weekends and it's a blast to take beach wheelin in the Outer Banks. Modest 2" Old Man Emu coils on 32" bfg's, Fox 2.0 Shox, Fox steering stabilizer, JKS q.d's, recent napa HD gearbox, M.O.R.E gearbox bracket, Freedom Off Road front lower adj control arms the rest are fixed Detroit Axles and Currectlync steering.
Above all, I always ask the good Lord to get us home safely and without incident.
Jeep
Born: 1941
Died: 2006
@@JeepTJWheelin I agree. I have 89k on mine. I take good care of it and I run it too. It’s always been my 2nd vehicle.
Im with you, but I need to get be comfortable at highway speeds to get to work everyday, and my 4.0L cannot. Any suggestions that may help me reach my highway goals would be appreciated. Not to mention saving me $7,500
I'm finally installing mine from Chad Golen tomorrow morning..I bought it two Novembers ago and received it this past August..just haven't had the weather or health to install it..till now..(weather, not health) but I'm doing it..I have a 94 YJ that had the 2.5l 4cyl and AX5 transmission with the NP 231j transfer case..picked up the AX-15 transmission and correct spline to adapt the np231j to fit the AX-15..picked up the rebuild kit and the slip yoke eliminator kit and housing and rebuilt the entire transfer case..
So many issues between the ax5 to ax15 even though it was believed that the mounts etc were identical..(they're not...and I had to fabricate and weld the mounting bracket to fit the AX-15...I purchased the crate motor from Chad cost almost $11,000.00 just for the motor,4.0 with a 4.2 crank, Clifford intake, Holley Sniper EFI 4 barrel carb
. broken in and the Dyno was impressive at 3500rpm she's pushing 287hp and close to 340 pounds of torq to the rear...
I bought this motor, had all of these issues, 10,000mi in, rear main was pouring oil, also steel freeze plugs. My main issue was, when i was doing the rear main, i look up, and my cam is missing a tooth off the gear, so the cam is junk at this point, so when i tore the motor down to rebuild it, they used a re-manned head, 3 of the valves were not sealing, they used over sized valves, since the guides were so sloppy, so i had bronze guides installed. They forgot to install the cam apring and pin, so the cam was walking because of it, causing it to break a tooth off. I took the motor to my machinist, and almost all of it was complete junk. Only crate motor ive ever bought, or ever will buy again. There workmanship was absolute garbage, everything leaked. For me, its done, is what it is. If this helps one person to not buy their garbage, im happy.
It has helped at least 1 person for sure. Thank you for this.
Well I’m on the path to fixing everything, which pisses me off since shouldn’t have to be. I don’t have the cam spring, but the plate style retainer. Check out my latest video to see where I’m at and the stupid things I found.
Hello you do realize it was your job to install the cam spring and pin when you put your timing cover on your engine. I just purchased a 4.6 from S@J and it didn't come with the cam spring and pin
@acehuff8829 I can't say as far as your experience went, however, my motor had the timing cover and pan installed when purchased. Including the upper and lower rear main seal. And good luck with your motor, mine was a pile of shit. I ended up having to do a complete rebuild. I went with Russ Pottinger for the upper half of the rebuild. Since S&Just head was junk. Got another head, and did the LS valve conversion, ported and polished head, with a beefy comp cam etc etc. I'm curious who you will use on your next rebuild in 20,000mi
I see you must of had it special ordered because what I have seen they don't sell the engines with timming cover and oil pan installed
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. This can help others. Wish you all the best
Keep making videos!!! You make good content with good quality and information.
Sorry you had those issues. That kinda sucks. I rebuilt my 4.2 I6 in my '84 CJ7 into a 4.7 Stroker myself back in 2020 and haven't had any issues. As others have noted, it's hard to find people who do it right the first time anymore, and thats why so many go the extra mile to do it themselves. Hope it all works out for you. Keep Jeepin!
Thanks for the warning! I have a 2006 TJ I'll definitely be avoiding SNJ for my stroker build
My experience with anaerobic sealer. I have done several rear main seals now, the first three were done with Ultra grey and do not leak to this day. Then I learned that I was using the "wrong" thing and "must" use anaerobic sealer! That freaking seal started leaking with the first year!
Sorry to hear about the problems you are experiencing with the 4.0. I have a 5.7 Hemi to put in my LJ and for simplicity I was thinking about doing a Stroker. Whatever I end up doing I will be putting a lot of thought into it. I love my LS3 in my TJ, thinking I’ll like that Hemi for my LJ too. I wish you the best moving forward with your project.. I have lots of Jeeps and this stuff can definitely be discouraging. We love our Jeeps what can I say.
@brianbusch2940 … like to see some videos of that TJ … did you do or have done?
You know, funny enough...my S&J 4.7 also has a leaking rear main seal. Including break-in miles, I have ~1300 miles on it. Also, the only reason I knew the warranty was for 1 year is because when I was talking to them I said something like "Wow, 7 years on a stroker? That's a no-brainer" at which point they corrected me. I do agree though, everything on their page made it look like a 7 year came with the stroker. Interestingly enough, my plugs in the block are all brass, but the ones in the head were steel. Lots of other small issues for me as well. Nearly all sealing surfaces were painted; valve cover, timing cover, thermostat housing, oil pan, oil filter, etc. I also had to remove a pressed-in pin at the oil filter that im sure if for the 90 degree adapter some jeeps used...but mine did not. The motor runs great right now, but with so many tiny details overlooked, i'm afraid of what could potentially manifest in the coming miles.
I'm very interested to see how you edelbrock head experience goes!
The warranty for the stroker and their high-performance engines is exactly why I opted to go with their standard 4.0 with a tupy head over the stroker
Thanks for the video. I’ve been thinking of buying a 289 Mustang engine from S&J. Definitely gonna read the small print!
Had a 46 Golen installed in my 92XJ roller rockers, upgraded, mustang injectors, great motor no issues with the motor white so ever except the rear main started leaking at about 1000 miles called Golen and I did not cover the rear main. Loved the motor, not real fond of 4.0 rear seals.
Thanks for sharing your information. Very well done video.
Dude please keep up the awesome video's!!!! I'm still on the fence with putting a 4.7 in my LJ.
Thanks for sharing. Keep 'em coming
Got a 97 tj with 230k miles, the lifters are a big loud but it runs good and still going strong
Love the video my friend that was very well done and beautiful jeep. That look really good. I also love that you actually have some SIDE WALL to those tires they're not 52 inch rims witch look so stupid. Just all around really like the look. Awesome job my friend and God Bless!!!
Thanks I've been collecting patrs won't go their ,good work doesn't need loopholes
I purchased on of their 4.7's based on reviews and some your previous videos. The sales rep I am dealing with was up front about the head and the warranty. He stated on all of their performance engines it's the 12-month warranty, and he cautioned me on the old head, and sold me the upgraded head (upcharge of $500). So, I'm still hopeful I will have a quality strong running engine to replace my blown 4.0. I sent them my roller rockers, that I was going to install on the old 4.0 and they are installing those at no additional charge to me. So I guess I will wait and see if I end up having some of the issues you are having here, but my old 4.0 has/had the same leaks in the same areas that you pointed out in these video. Keep up the good work, and great videos.
I’m willing to bet you spoke with Dave👍🏼 I purchased through him and he actually talked me out of the stroker
It was Dave.@@johnhackney1101
@@johnhackney1101what weresome of the factors that steered you away?
very nice looking jeep. Would love to see pics of it topless and doorless. this has to be a total beast with that stroker.
I put a junkyard 5.3 L33 LS with 122k on it for 1100 bucks in my TJ. If it grenades, I buy another, 310 hp/335 tq. It wasn't rocket surgery to make it fit either, have 38k on it and still goes like hell. Trans is the weak link but spares are cheap enough.
I know that’s a viable swap, I just have no interest in an LS, it isn’t always the answer.
@@65SEEJAYFIVE It's always the answer when you want cheap power. Why spend 4k or more on something that makes far less power when you can use that money saved to put into suspension?
Nice Jeep. Nice work. 👍
Great video and excellent info. I'm also in the process of obtaining a new engine for my 95 ZJ (260k and still runs perfectly) so I'm in no great hurry but SnJ will not be getting any business from me now or ever, I will be going with Keith Newcomer out of Charlotte (if he's not too busy--fingers crossed) or Golen if nothing else. I'm keeping the Jeep for life so I don't mind sticking money in it but I will not waste it by going to a company that half-asses their work and their customers. Thanks for the "heads up" ha and good luck on your journey.
Very clean build. If I was gonna spend that time/money I'd have gone supercharged. Nobody makes a cheap kit, but plenty of room & lots of choices.
Great Video, I would recommend the felpro 9076 PT-1 head gasket and arp head bolts as well. Best Wishes
I’m using ARP studs and I’m installing Edelbrock’s Performer Aluminum head along with their head gasket.
Been looking at some rebuild options on my tj. 248k and still running strong on original engine. Kind of just waiting for it to shit itself first but idk if it will lol. Don’t think I will get another motor after seeing all the probs and after spending so much money too. You seem very patient… I’d be pissed
Great stuff and great jeep. I just posted a video on "an Everyday TJ" for my dad on my channel (jeepNdirt) as he's not a crawler but wants an everyday driver and the ability to just hit forest service roads and occasional off road basic excursions. I agree with you on the love of TJ's. I have a YJ (for over 21 years now), want a built LJ (future project), and currently have a very built JLUR (as seen on my channel). Now that I've helped my dad with his basic 3.5 inch lift 98 TJ Sahara on 33's I'm looking forward to getting him comfortable off road and maybe helping him decide on going bigger. LOL. Really love your jeep.
Jeez that sucks. You chose the best route replacing the head, I did this with a Clearwater head on my previous Jeep, a 2000 XJ. Owners with the 0331 head engines have to be aware that many engine builders are just taking in core engines, rebuilding them, and then sending them back out, they don't update the 0331 head to the TUPY version, or care that it's an issue. On one of the forums I frequent there are a few claims from Jasper where they don't even consider the 0331 head an "issue" which is surprising. Hopefully once you do all the updates it will be bulletproofed and trouble free.
I totally agree, that 100% appears to be what’s going on. It’s frustrating. The 4.0 I pulled out for this engine had a TUPY head on it and it irritated me putting a plain old 0331 head in my Jeep. I’m hoping I can just drive it and enjoy it for awhile now!
They should have done their due diligence. This kind of thing is what separates companies that genially care, from companies that are reputable , but doesn't give individual customers their full attention. Yeah the product may be good .. But what does that matter without excellent customer service. For instance , i know its not engine related but " MetalCloak" contacted me and made certain that i ordered the correct parts and the parts i wanted. When you spend top dollar on a product , you deserve top notch service .
I would say be glad you bought from S&J, I have never heard of them but your engine issue pale in comparison to my Titan engine disaster. If I had researched more I would have found they are terrible stroker engines. I am sure they build good stock motors. They have been around a long time. I followed the 4.0 stroker page to late but found horror stories on top of horror stories about their lack of performance knowledge. That was 13 years ago. Hope by now they have it figured it out. FYI I pulled my new Titan stroker motor before 200 miles. 4 times. Got a run around. Then they pulled it 2 more times! The last time I pulled it, (350) miles total, I took it to a real engine performance guy in Gainesville. It was great afterwards.
Keep making videos! I like your content and can tell you really love your TJ. The rear main seals on these TJ’s will always leak. I hate to say you’re wasting your time changing a new main seal, but it will leak again in a year. I’ve owned my TJ since 2006 I had the rear main seal replaced in 2008, a year later it was dripping again and the main seal has always dripped just a little bit ever since and never got worse.
Same, I've had my rear seal replaced twice by 2 different shops and it's still leaking. I was almost thinking of getting a new engine just to stop the leak, but I guess that's not a solution either.
You are a patient man. To pay that much and have a gasket leak and main seal leak… ugh. Super frustrating.
As far as the rear main seal goes never use the Fel-Pro or any other rear main seal except the Mopar from Chrysler. I have had to pull these down to do this after changing the rear main and it leaked from the beginning. I use Fel-Pro in just about everything else except 4.0 liter jeep stuff.
Been running my s&j motor for 4years in my xj got 40k on the 4,0 no issues but ya no follow up from them and the warranty..but they built me a motor and deliver it in 72hr..
I'm fixing to purchase a Golen stroker. Came on here to here reviews about any serious stroker issues. But your head gasket leak, rear main seal leak, etc, can happen to any engine.
I got the same engine on the way, i clicked so fast youtube got dizzy lol. Well. I paid the extra $500 for the upgraded head. Hopefully that'll fix the that issue
I have a 05 Rubicon Unlimited with the 4.0. I replaced the motor with a Jasper rebuilt, it lasted for 500 miles then failed. I'm now on the 4th Jasper 4.0 and it just failed like 3 of the 4 other replacements low to no oil pressure at idle. The 3rd morot failed with a cracked head even before I picked up my Jeep. I'm looking hard at the Golen stroker to replace the POS Jasper.
Not that anyone cares but. I Have a 1987 4.2 now 4.6. It was a simple R&R mix and match parts from both. With all used factory parts. I bought a rust bucket 1991 4.0 FI running fine for 1k took everything off the rust bucket sold it so I was money in the bank. Cleaned and polished everything pistons, crank rods by hand. Mild porting to just clean up the rough castings and built the stroker for dam near free with new rings, bearings and seals 12 yr ago runs fine still. Zero machine shop bill, dingle ball honed the cylinders hand lapped the valves/seats . Factory 2bb carb, ignition system. It's not hard and can be very cheap to do, yes I am a 56 yr old mechanic but anyone who can read and has the tools can build one themself at home.
The only tool I had to buy was a bore gauge wanted one anyway. Has the same cam bearing, cam, lifters just put back in the same hole as they came from to match the wear on the cam and bore of the block.
It really is that simple to build one. All the old pistions , rods are sitting here so thinking of a low compression build and adding a turbo now over the winter. If anyone wants to see that build. Comment and I will film it,
I was a Jeep dealer tech from 1998-2005 and to be honest I don't remember seeing any cracked heads or blown head gaskets and I was a engine tech. I'm sure it happens but it's not common with a 4.0. I think that was the strongest engine Chrysler had back then and maybe ever. Your TJ looks nice and hope you get it figured out. That new head should be a nice piece. Rear mains were so common to leak even with low miles .
Thanks for the kind words, I’m almost done. I did the rear main today, and I found out the problem. The engine builder put the seal in the correct way in the rear main cap but put the top piece in the block backwards 🤦🏼♂️
@@65SEEJAYFIVE Yeah they must have tried out the new guy that day lol. That will make one leak. I would see the top one get cut on install from not enough lube. Man I must have done a couple hundred of those 4.0 rear main seals. The early oil pans sucked. They were cork and would take hours to get cleaned off. The one piece rubber pan gasket was a god send
It wasn't a Chrysler engine, the 4.0L is an AMC engine.
@@JeepTJWheelin Chrysler has owned Jeep since 1987 and that is when the 4.0 came out but it was designed off the 2.5 AMC. Glad Chrysler kept it going because those old Cherokees and Wranglers kept me busy making money for years and years
@@HotRodDave Chrysler stole the idea based off the AMC 4.2L, Chrysler is shit, they wouldn't know how to make an engine like the 4.2 or 4.0 because of incompetence, and being a part of the age of obsolescence. Nothing nowadays is made to last. I hear nothing but problems from '07 - present from the pos 3.8 mini van engine to the 3.6l. I wouldn't touch any heep from '07 - present. Plastic, carbon fiber, over techno garbage. This is catering to a soft and highly incompetent demographic who needs every pansy creature comfort.
Thanks for sharing, enjoy your videos. Curious if you measured the mpg on the stroker and compared operating temps with the original?
MPG last checked was 15.5 and it stays right at 199-202° as per my dongle.
I’m way too cheap to pull apart a perfectly good 4.0L , mine has only 51,000 miles on it
The more I read about trying to get more power out of my jeep via turbo, supercharger or stroker motor seems to some of the time anyways end badly my 4.0 only has 40,000 miles on it. It does struggle for power now that I put a 3 1/2 inch lift in it with 33x12.5’s but by the sounds of it, I should save myself a lot of money and just go with it
Thank you very much for the Video. Sincerely much appreciate this share of experience. I have a 2001 tj perfect running 4.0... but have this 0331 head. No issues yet, but always worry it will fail on some long trips,so considering either a stroker.. or just new Edilbrock head. Bestvregards from Europe.
What’s the new power output of the 4.7 stroker looking to do it to my engine as well
Show me a 2-piece rear main seal in anything that isn't all wet around there. All my Jeeps always have a stalactite at the rear main, but I can park them on the most pristine concrete driveway and not leave a drop.
This is jeep is so cool
I like your videos if you have time. All of us run out of time.
You still have a legal path you can take for verbally telling you about the 7yr 100k warranty and not the 1yr 12k at the same tyme to draw your attention to your contract. That would mean you would have to have a lawyer anytyme you purchase a engine from them. The company misrepresented their product. You have a winnable case. Even if you leave youtube pursue like a tiger until they pay for the defects.
Nice Jeep! Great idea to upgrade the head, but can't believe you didn't get a mild bump stick to rasp up that idle! The best of us owned Jeeps that sound like they're about the stall out anyway.... By the by, you tell stories like my grandmother.
Should have got a mild camshaft though. Also, you tell stories like my grandmother...
Really love the aluminum Edelbrock head, great idea! Your stories are like my grandmother's...as well 🙃
I'd retorque my headbolts for the time being, sucks about the rear main seal
Will learn together. Jeep community .
dam, S&J really seems to know what they're doing when it comes to not taking care of the customer.
I was and honestly still am pretty pissed off over the whole thing. I feel very misled.
Seriously, both a leaky head, and rear main seal!?? You'd think to save their reputation (I'd be surprised if they ever had one) They would tell this customer, "We'll come get your engine asap and return it to you leak-free, guaranteed." The cherry on top is someone else commenting to this video said he also bought an S&J engine, and the rear main seal leaked immediately.
Two questions. I see that you have the vented hood. There's a lot of water. Get in there. And what is your miles per tank? Are you getting with the stroker? Just curious if it's even worth it
No issues with the louvers, and I don’t know how many miles per tank, I just fill it when empty. I calculated it one time and it’s about 14.5 mpg
Are those 15x8 wheels? I like the stance👍
Yes
How did you get a coil pack for that thing from MSD I couldn't find anything MSD for my ZJ and on top of it y do you only have little over 20lb plus injectors you should have a little bit higher than that and the stock cam come on man I have a very similar setup but the cam is not stock and I'm running 65lb fuel injectors
I have 27lbs injectors.
No TUPY head! That is just straight up ridiculous from S&J! The 0331 no TUPY head is literally the worst head ever fitted to the 4.0.
A couple years ago I bought a remanufactured Long block from ATK. (Has a TUPY head). Not a stroker. Just a 4.0. Did not want worse mpg. Extra heat. Or have to run premium gas.
Within 1500km. Head was leaking oil in same place as yours. So I took the head off.
The crappiest head gasket I think is available for the 4.0 is what I found. Single layer. And ATK also stripped the front right header bolt.
So I installed a heavy duty head gasket kit. And new header bolts.
40,000km later still running good.
But I would not recommend ATK at all.
Why cheap out on the head gasket!? Very frustrating.
Also rear main has just started to weap a little oil. Not bad after 40k.
Yeah I was pretty irritated. When questioned about it, I got an “Oh darn, the guys were supposed to put a TUPY on! Oh well 🤷🏼♂️” Check out my latest video to see what I found in the teardown.
Can someone send me a link for the MSD parts for the 4.0 would really like to throw that on my monster
Just look on summit or jegs, they have it.
Why do you have the "65SEEJAYFIVE" as a logo if your running a 02 TJ ?
You obviously haven’t watched my original videos and what actually started my channel.
FYI the 4.0 will AWLAYS seep out of the rear main because it’s a 2 piece so not a perfect seal
Would I go with a leaky head gasket, a head that may crack and a leaking rear main seal after 1400 miles? YES!
In an accident your highjack on the bonnet will go right through the windshield.
Doubt it
@@65SEEJAYFIVE You´ve have obviously never been in an accident! Which is good!
I´ve been in one: A car crashed from the side ... => seat broke out of the chassis, he crashed right behind the seat into my car.
The rear wheel was pretty much in the center of the car.
a 20kg steel part bolted through the bonnet will just go with the flow. If someone coming from behind, the highjack moves back...
I didn't know the Edelbrock head came ported and polished.....🤔
Maybe yer dumb 😂
It’s listed as “slightly” ported and polished. It is customized to have the larger intake runners on the later years as well as the larger exhaust runners of the earlier years, best of both worlds.
Where again did you say you bought the Edelbrock head from?? BTW I’m dealing with my 4.7 Stroker from S&J. They just built me a new long block. Waiting to get it from them and see if it’s any better than the last one I got from them and had to send back and have rebuilt. All out of pocket. Not the happiest camper here.
@@doughoechst3289 ouch, that sucks! Hopefully it all works out for you. I got the aluminum head from Summit Racing. First one came damaged but they swapped it out no questions asked.
Kind of blows. At same time Ive never seen a 4.0 that didnt at least have a small drip from the RMS. Ive changed mine twice and it seals up for a couple drives then the blowby makes it leak again. If I paid new engine price yeah id be mad too
Quick question...... Who makes the fuel rail you're running on the engine?
Fuel rail is factory, the cover is from DEI.
@@65SEEJAYFIVE Apologies, so the fuel rail is a 'factory' red, or the fuel rail cover from DEI is red? I just noticed, but where did you get the red cooling hoses if you don't mind?
@@trailrider2234are you talking about the fuel rail? Or coil pack? The fuel rail is on the drivers side of the engine covered in gray foil. The coil pack is red and on the passenger side covering all six spark plugs, made by MSD. The hoses are HPS and you can get them as a complete kit in red, blue, and black. OR! The fuel rail wiring harness cover is red, is that what you mean? If that’s what you mean, that is this www.quadratec.com/products/51101_40X_PG.htm
@@65SEEJAYFIVE Yeehaw!! You hit the nail on the head my friend. Exactly what I was inquiring about and desired to know. Yessir, I run the same setup for the fuel rail cover, and the coil pack from MSD. These are great mods to make. Red is part of the project color scheme I have going on with my '00 Jeep WJ. Truly appreciate your kindness and time in replying back to my query. It's much appreciated. REALLY hope and pray that everything is working out for you now and were able to get some type of amicable arrangement with the engine supplier. Viewing your recent uploads. One day maybe we'll cross paths on a trail. Happy JEEPIN', and rubber side down. 👍👊🚙
Wasn't the issue that you have with the engine company right in the middle of COVID?
The engine was ordered early 2022. So, no, it wasn't in the middle of COVID - not sure what that would matter.
All the issues you've had and you would still recommend them ????????? Doesn't make any sense, you're a better person than me!!!!!!! There's no way in hell I would recommend a company like that to a friend or family, unless they have money to burn, which they don't! I wonder if the Golen engine would of been a better choice?
Yeah, if I could do it over, I would have probably waited another year, saved some more cash and went with Golen.
@@65SEEJAYFIVE I haven't really heard any negatives about the Golen except for the price.
At least they gave you gaskets 😂
Yeah really..
The more vids I see the more I'm leaning towards LS swap
LS engines are cool, but I hope you are a good fabricator if you want to put one in your Jeep. If not, you’ll spend a fortune having someone do it for you.
That’s the difference between the front office/sales and the machine/ rebuild shop good quality product terrible customer service
I'm doing well today.
TJ = Money pit! lol
That company clearly doesn't know what they're doing just by what block they threw in there and the communication issues that is a company I would never want my motor built by
What shop is $25 a hour? Most all are over $100/hr
Yup, my thoughts exactly.
Fair enough comment.
Dayum man that sucks.
12:00 That's warranty fraud on their end. Straight up. It's not a "fault". The invoice and the packing slip said two different things.
1800 miles and problems?
Yup, watch my latest video to see what I found in teardown.
I got 304500 miles on my 4.0 still has 40 psi oil pressure and only ticks until warm up. Great engine
2:22 he starts talking about the stroker
Sounds like they are doing a bait and switch hoping people won't read the small print.
I can’t believe they would put a 0331 head on there, unacceptable.
Customer service sounds terrible. No excuse for not handling your customers with honesty and integrity. We should all get back to trading on our name. I’m fortunate enough to be employed by just that. GL
You won’t more power 6.0 ls cheaper is horsepower
🇺🇸💪🏼
Not really
After buying an engine from Dead Jeep and being ripped off? I trust no one on the internet. I will be building my own stroker engine, and parts from local places. It sucks to be your own warranty, but truth is, you are, warranty or not, you gotta rip it out, lol. Might as well save money.
If I had to do it over again, I just would have rebuilt it myself.
Drop a ford 302 v8 and a tremec 5spd and call it a day lol
You're having issues because your wheeling with a motor that's barely even broken in yet you got to break the thing in before you beat on it brand-new motors can blow up at any moment to got to do the proper broke in When it comes to these things same with the 318 when they are fresh they want to be broke in properly
He literally “broke it in” ?
It was all broken in properly?
Sounds like you're the victim of the ol' bait and switch for the warranty. Should have got a lawyer/ filed a civil suit. I'm sure you're not the only one this has happened to.
Told you not 2 , u didn’t listen to pick golen!
Hindsight is 20/20!
Building your own stroker would have been better…it’s not as difficult as you probably think it is and the tools are cheap enough plus you would have learned a lot in the process.
America love s Drama❤
Apparently you like drama too, since you decided to troll 😂
Did you post video for people to comment on ? If not turn off comments. I was agreeing with you you just thought I was being a butthole. Post for children no comments if can't understand normal people!
First of all, I didn’t post this video ? So I have no control over turning comments on or off. Secondly, your comment makes it sound like you think he only posted this for the drama of the situation; he was obviously giving an honest review to help others. Lastly, if you want people to understand you better, then you should try to actually use complete sentences. By only using some words, people are assuming what you’re trying to communicate because you make no sense.
that entire video and not one time did you start it up and drive it for us
I have plenty of those videos, go and check them out if you feel so inclined to.
Lol, one year and 2,000 miles later.
😂.
Glad you seem to think it’s funny
@@65SEEJAYFIVEspent a lot of money for 2k miles in a year
In Europe you would had the your money back! In USA everything is allowed in bussines, love and war! You are victim of froad. But this is good way to tell other Jeep owners to avoid this scamming company. Sue this fucking company! I hate when Jeep owner is screwed!
Why are so many of you buying these engines when you can build it yourself for cheaper, especially what this place is selling you as a “ performance engine” 😂
No performance cam or timing set, no roller rockers, cast iron shit head thats prone to cracking… leaks!
Newcomer Racing engines are performance engines and they don’t leak from the head gasket, rear main seal and he certainly wouldn’t send you a head gasket and wish you the best.
It’s not a performance engine without a performance valve train, performance cylinder head and definitely not without a performance camshaft & timing set.
I believe they do not understand the meaning of performance. That’s a stock engine with a stroked bottom end … tell me it at least has forged pistons, rods and moly rings? Probably not, they probably put cast garbage in it… they’re making a killing and selling you guys a nothing burger.
Live and learn I guess. It does have forged internals according to their build sheet, but who knows.
BS no one has a 25$ hr labor rate.