Programming a LokSound decoder without a LokProgrammer is like using a PDP 8 with punch cards…. Great demonstration Daz!!! The LokProgrammer is very intuitive. Well worth the investment!
Daz, thank you. I have literally just got a LokProgrammer, and am dipping the toes in. Thank you for a very helpful video. My first project is to learn what it does, and how it all works. Cheers, and keep safe, Michael
With the Lok Programmer am I able to save the properties from an existing factory fitted Decoder and maybe alter the settings of the existing decoder. Great video thank you
I've just begun using the Lok programmer. I too like the visual nature of the way you can edit cv's and settings. Thanks for the video. I also have a few 930's that I'll be upgrading.
In the UK all sound projects are locked to the decoder and can't be altered. If you try, you fully overwrite the sound part of the project. So when I buy a decoder, I ask the supplier to supply the full project and sound file so I can reinstall the lot if necessary. As for is a Lokprogammer a worthwhile investment, absolutely. For me, amending individual CVs is like hand coding web pages - consigned to history. And good as Decoder Pro is, Lokprogammer is far more intuitive. But of course, unlike Decoder Pro you are restricted to ESU decoders.
Have you played with BEMF settings for a really slow crawling startup ? I have a Lokprogrammer and am playing with startup speeds on my NSWGR Diesels, trying to get the same startup as the professional decoder installers.
@@ModelRailroadTechniques After uploading a sound file on lok sound v5 decoder etc and placing my loco on the main layout track the Ecos is searching for the chip via railcom but not loading the loco info onto the Ecos database? With the V5 chips I've had a few problems. Thanks JIm.
@Model Railroad Techniques luckily I have a friend that has the Programer so when it finally arrives he should be able to help me. Thank you again, Chris
I don't know the cost of the ESU programmer, but I think I would be afraid I would bugger the decoder up because I am not to good with the computer, I did like the way you show the way do it., Thank you
Thanks for you comment. You really can’t bugger the decoder up. I suggest just altering a few CV to start with like sound volume etc and find your feet that way.
I have several ESU decoded locos, but have the generic sound. I do have the lok programmer, but I cannot proramme the sounds, as it is way too complicated for me to use. Ok, you have just shown us how to do it, but trying to remember everything, is just not a happening thing.I have to wait to get someone to do it for me, but there is no one local, who can do it, so I am still waiting..When I buy sound decoders, I always get it prorammed from the supplier. Oh well, I just keep waiting. I am 68 & time is running out, lol. Thanks for the video. Michael NZ
I think it is worth the cost if you are doing multiple locomotives. It's definitely not really worth the investment if you only have 3 or 4 locomotives though. Your time is valuable as well, and the Loc Programmer will save you time over other solutions. It all depends on how much use you will get from it.
I have just found you channel and would like to say you are explaing things at good for people to understand, I have been using a LOK Programmer and Decoder tester for about 12 months and I am like you I learn by seeing what I change and what does, I also saw your Video with Nix Trainz and it was very interesting as I have just fitted a V5 Decoder buddy to an Auscision TT class and you have a lot more light features then the standard setup. Thanks for the time you put in to helping other modellers,
While the software is intuitive once you get it to run properly, ESU hasn’t updated their drivers in over 11 YEARS resulting in numerous problems requiring workarounds to make it work on Windows 11. ESU also needs to provide better support.
I have problems with intermittent ops including “unable to read decoder” and having to go into admin settings to turn off driver integrity. When it works it’s great but there appear to be software issues. My computer has an i7 with 64GB and a RTX 4070 GPU though I don’t think that part matters much.
Thanks!
Programming a LokSound decoder without a LokProgrammer is like using a PDP 8 with punch cards…. Great demonstration Daz!!! The LokProgrammer is very intuitive. Well worth the investment!
Thanks Nick. I love it once the software is learnt it really is pretty easy.
Daz, thank you. I have literally just got a LokProgrammer, and am dipping the toes in.
Thank you for a very helpful video.
My first project is to learn what it does, and how it all works.
Cheers, and keep safe, Michael
Thanks Michael. Please let me know if you need help.
With the Lok Programmer am I able to save the properties from an existing factory fitted Decoder and maybe alter the settings of the existing decoder.
Great video thank you
@@GeoffSweeney-z7h great idea
I've just begun using the Lok programmer. I too like the visual nature of the way you can edit cv's and settings. Thanks for the video. I also have a few 930's that I'll be upgrading.
Great news. Let me know how you go
In the UK all sound projects are locked to the decoder and can't be altered. If you try, you fully overwrite the sound part of the project. So when I buy a decoder, I ask the supplier to supply the full project and sound file so I can reinstall the lot if necessary. As for is a Lokprogammer a worthwhile investment, absolutely. For me, amending individual CVs is like hand coding web pages - consigned to history. And good as Decoder Pro is, Lokprogammer is far more intuitive. But of course, unlike Decoder Pro you are restricted to ESU decoders.
Thanks Chris. I wasn’t aware they are locked. I normally buy blank decoders and upload my own sounds. Glad you find the LokProgrammer intuitive too
Have you played with BEMF settings for a really slow crawling startup ? I have a Lokprogrammer and am playing with startup speeds on my NSWGR Diesels, trying to get the same startup as the professional decoder installers.
I haven’t. I use TrainController software that requires a different sent up
For auto ops
Are you able to advise me how to adjust the volume on the locksound v5. Many thanks Zeb
Hi, do you have the lok programmer?
Hi Do you ever have any issues when placeing the loco on the track and the Ecos auto loading the loco info to the Ecos?
Hello I am not understanding your question
@@ModelRailroadTechniques After uploading a sound file on lok sound v5 decoder etc and placing my loco on the main layout track the Ecos is searching for the chip via railcom but not loading the loco info onto the Ecos database?
With the V5 chips I've had a few problems.
Thanks JIm.
@@hovermotion interesting. Sorry I am not a ECOS user.
Turn off the Railcom function in the decoder.
Das great video and explanation and demo. I'm a mac man so no go for me. look forward to your next instalment.
Thanks Dallas. That’s not good for MSc users. No work arounds?
@@ModelRailroadTechniques not cheaply
Pretty cool info. I'm getting my first esu equipped n scale engine. I will use this as a way to get mine updated
Thanks awesome mate. Let me know how you get on or need any help. Cheers Daz
@Model Railroad Techniques luckily I have a friend that has the Programer so when it finally arrives he should be able to help me. Thank you again, Chris
I don't know the cost of the ESU programmer, but I think I would be afraid I would bugger the decoder up because I am not to good with the computer, I did like the way you show the way do it., Thank you
Thanks for you comment. You really can’t bugger the decoder up. I suggest just altering a few CV to start with like sound volume etc and find your feet that way.
I have several ESU decoded locos, but have the generic sound. I do have the lok programmer, but I cannot proramme the sounds, as it is way too complicated for me to use. Ok, you have just shown us how to do it, but trying to remember everything, is just not a happening thing.I have to wait to get someone to do it for me, but there is no one local, who can do it, so I am still waiting..When I buy sound decoders, I always get it prorammed from the supplier. Oh well, I just keep waiting. I am 68 & time is running out, lol. Thanks for the video. Michael NZ
I think it is worth the cost if you are doing multiple locomotives. It's definitely not really worth the investment if you only have 3 or 4 locomotives though. Your time is valuable as well, and the Loc Programmer will save you time over other solutions. It all depends on how much use you will get from it.
Most definitely. I have numerous with varying version ESU lol sounds. Worth the cost for me
I have just found you channel and would like to say you are explaing things at good for people to understand, I have been using a LOK Programmer and Decoder tester for about 12 months and I am like you I learn by seeing what I change and what does, I also saw your Video with Nix Trainz and it was very interesting as I have just fitted a V5 Decoder buddy to an Auscision TT class and you have a lot more light features then the standard setup. Thanks for the time you put in to helping other modellers,
Thanks Wendy for your kind words. Decoder buddy is a fine product.
While the software is intuitive once you get it to run properly, ESU hasn’t updated their drivers in over 11 YEARS resulting in numerous problems requiring workarounds to make it work on Windows 11. ESU also needs to provide better support.
What sort of issues you experiencing?
I have problems with intermittent ops including “unable to read decoder” and having to go into admin settings to turn off driver integrity. When it works it’s great but there appear to be software issues. My computer has an i7 with 64GB and a RTX 4070 GPU though I don’t think that part matters much.
@@H5691j interesting never seen that issue. What cable you using between pc and programmer?
@@ModelRailroadTechniques I’m using the enclosed USB-A 2.0 to RS232 cable.
@@H5691jthose pesky cables I have had a lot of issues over the years.
sigh....too proprietary great chip, but windows only software. Tsunami also good, and more usable for all Does not play well with JMRI