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A grizzled tank commander makes tough decisions as he and his crew fight their way across Germany in April, 1945.
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I don't care if people say this scene is unrealistic, for me the whole crew of those sherman were absolutely terrified. That looks very realistic to me.
yeah the cinematografy its ok, the problem is that the tiger first of all would have hit the first tank in the line and after that should have remained away instead of going forward
I mean it literally isn't tho
Hollywood scene...
They act real because they were prepared in realistic way, like they didnt eat properly or shower for days if not weeks...
Shaila did some crazy shit preparing for this movie.
@@captainpancake8177 We adapted a few of the German doctrines after WW2. This is an SS crew. They surely saw action on the Eastern Front. Even if not they were trained before being handled a fucking tiger so they would follow some simple tanker steps in the doctrine.
First tank in a column gets destroyed or disabled. Second shot is on the back most. While the others are bunched up and trying to turn they are easy pickings. That worked best in tight columns as well. The Fury and another 76 are priority targets. By 45 the Germans knew a 76 can pen them frontally at ranges they are engaging here, as well as the Firefly. They are identifiable by the distinct muzzle which at points crews went to lengths to take off or do a paint job on the barrel to make the tanks not realize they have the longer barrel immediately.
Tigers were slow on the gear shifts. They have no reason to advance and expose themselves against shermans which need to be hit anywhere to be penned, jumbo was not here in the war or a pershing. All they had to do was back off from the ditch through smoke cover already there and pick them off, not giving them any chance to actually flank and hit them in the back. 76 , which has the muzzle would have been priority number one if he survived, not the punny 75s from the 2 tanks he took out first because Brad Pitt was not crewing them.
It is very unrealistic, especially the end scene. Made to look cool. Also this is not berlin 1945. You wouldn't really see a tiger standing alone without infantry or more armor around or close by to hold a spot so wide as this with no actual choke points to funnel the enemy through.
The gunner in the Tiger was so confident he took a cup of coffe between each round.
They had a right to be to be fair to them. Normally a Sherman could *never* beat a Tiger. Close range was the only way to beat the German tank, but most soldiers didn't know that until the number of Tiger tanks became dangerously low.
@@girl1213 the 76 was specifically designed to pierce the germans thick armored thanks. it could pen the front anywhere the armor wasnt sloped, so everything except the drivers window. and the flat sides on the side of the gun. easily from 500m
@@lars7747 On the firing range, where one could line up the shot nicely and calmly, it certainly could. But under combat conditions, it was not even reliably able to take out the latest Pz IV - sure, it could kill a Tiger, but you had to be lucky, and your crew had to know exactly what they were doing. And many Shermans (as can be seen in Wardaddy's platoon) retained the original 75mil gun because the 76's HE shell sucked ass and was much longer (meaning the tank could carry less ammo), and in 1944 tank-busting infantry was a bigger threat than the rather small number of German heavy tanks that remained.
@@willietorben560 ...dude are you trolling
@@lars7747 He most likely is. 76 can easly go through the front of the Tiger, but that does not change the fact that this scene and movie in general is absolute crap. It has the same problem as any other movie of that type, the German army is nearly always portraied as the most incompetent military force there is on this planet which makes me just not watch these kind of movies. I would genuinly love a propper WW2 movie without stupid plot armor or a horribly incompetent German Army. All quiet on the western front is the only exeption.
I like how the scene represents the fear of encountering an enemy tank especially one with the tigers reputation
Cinematographically, yes. Historically and Battlefield accuracy went just fucking around
They really did nail the fear of fighting a Tiger Tank.
Not quite accurate. The 1st rule of engagement for German tanks is to take out the lead tank. 2nd rule of engagement, Tiger tanks can shoot up to 1000m. It does not need to come out so close in the open to take out Shermans.
Did u ever think the tiger moved forward because the smoke….
@@samueljoslyn3958 if the smoke was an issue, you reverse and keep the range.
More importantly the Sherman’s should of kept pumping smoke, if they wanted to get close
Probably able to kill a tank past 2,000 metres.
800 yards is close to 1000 meters…
And the 3rd rule of Fight Club is never talk about Tigers.
As a Marine Tank Gunner with Gulf War combat experience, I can vouch for the chaos and intensity of tank warfare. There is nothing like it. Nothing. Thankfully, WE were the Tigers during our engagements and had the superior training and equipment.
What does it feel like to see what your enemies must have felt?
Yeah iraqs military was laughable
@@CheckChannelDescriptionForTag Show some respect soldier.
@@rusko123 just the truth
As a war movie lover, I absolutely loved Fury.
As a war enthusiasts, Brad Pitt would have been the first one that tiger took out, then the last, and cleaned up the rest. no way those Sherman's would have ever made it that close. also I do believe tigers never hunted alone. too valuable of an assist to send out without cover
No apparently they did frequently which lead to many of them destroyed
Band of brothers is the best
For most of the war, the Tigers and Panthers hunted in packs of 5 or so. It wasn't until late in the war, the last 6 to 9 months, that they started hurting singly like that. They really didn't have the tanks to hunt in packs by that point in the war.
It was the end of the war though! It shows the hitler youth attacking! You pull little boys and old men into battle your war is over hitler! He should hav what’s the balls to surrender instead of bailing out and supposedly commiting suicide! Hitler let his people suffer because he was a coward
@@mjpraetorian4386 no no they didn´t hunt alone only in special occasions like when getting splitted from thze group ( tiger 101) jagdtiger the 2-3 peaces they had, they hunted mostly alone only with footsoldiers as guards
0:15 so quiet and peaceful inside a running tank.
Would been loud as hell 🔊
There was a German officer or enlisted man, I can't remember, but he was extolling the undeniable greatness of the German tanks and talked about how superior they were to the Allied/American ones...his end quote went something like this "The Tiger was equal to 4 lesser American tanks...but the Americans...they always had 5". Our ability to mass manufacture tanks, that weren't as durable and deadly as the German ones, allowed us to win engagements with a superior vehicle. They made better ones, we made many more lesser ones that while being inferior in many ways...were still good enough when we buried them with the sheer amount we sent.
I just want to point out that the "superior" tanks Germany had were very uncommon on the western front. The majority of German tanks were simply on par with the Sherman, and neither had any issues destroying the other. The likelihood of a Sherman running into a Tiger during the war was negligible.
I'd mention that was the Russian philosophy during the Cold War, swamp the enemy with numbers.
Really....well Lazerpig would like to have a chat with you and your "greatness of german tanks" ...
... usa financed and equiped nazi germany. Just as they are doing now with ukronazis. We owe you that war.
There were more German tanks than American ones. But they were all on the eastern front - that is, in Russia .
5:12
The panic is actually well acted by Bible. Damn
This and Transformers Age of Extinction are my favorite historical movies
WW2 movies I loved fury movie is the best I love. Fun fact: the tiger tank is the real life last working tiger tank in the world tiger 131 was captured by British forces during the North Africa campaign marking one of the best war trophy’s from the allies. The tank remains in tank museum in the UK.
Big Joe: [Aghast] Tigers? Where'd the hell the Tigers come from?!
Kelly: Well, that's why we have Oddball and his Shermans.
VERY bad day at the office encountering a tiger especially if as often they got the drop on you first. Tigers really were something else.
Yeah there 88mm howitzer could 1 shot almost anything even if the tank was angling its armor they were the best of the best fyi tiger 131 was used in this film
0:16 Yeah I’m sure WWII tanks were that quiet on the inside 😂
The line "dont let him behind us" is wrong...german tank commander actually says: "Load Anti tank shell again""
Thanks 👍
Also the 88mm Tiger anti tank gun not going through a fricking log
@@jammin5563 suspension of belief, the 76mm dosent even pen the front armor.
@@drone8442 where did you get 76 from
@@jammin5563 the fury has a 76mm gun
Wardaddy rolled them right into that ambush. He was totally responsible for it.
All the tanks were close together. All the guns were pointing forward. Nobody was looking around.
It doesn't matter how safe the area was supposed to be, it was a war zone. An ambush happened. Wardaddy messed up.
Earlier in the movie he was berating the new guy for trusting children. Well, Wardaddy trusted the countryside and people died.
To a certain extent you are right. But that tank was camouflaged and engine off.
dude it's a movie
@stereolababy Yeah, that's why I didn't stress the importance of keeping a lookout in all directions, even after the fighting starts. When they backed up into the treeline, I was thinking there might be an enemy soldier in there with a few grenades. The Tiger could have been a bluff to trick them.
@@stereolababy Thank you.
@@mitchellminer9597 funny how you can't sense sarcasm but you're going to call out a fictional character for getting caught in an ambush
That first liner of the Tiger Tank Commander is enough to send chills. Damn.
2:13 That must have been really terrifying to see for the first soldiers who faced Tigers, I don't want to imagine the terror in that situation
Would have been even worse when their shots bounced off
me neither. Thank god I was born during the 80s.
That would have been Soviets, but the Tiger was too mechanically fragile for Eastern Front conditions - 3 of the 4 Tigers that day simply broke down, and the fourth didn't achieve anything. Took two weeks to get the running again, only for all 4 to break down, one even irrecoverably. The Red Army tactic to deal with Tigers was like what Wardaddy's platoon tries here (zergrush them with T-34 til you can pop a shot in their butt), but in addition raking them with MG fire to break the optics. It was not too successful, but not as bad as the GI's experience after the Normandy landings - the Sherman was literally the worst contemporary Allied tank one could face a Tiger in: high, weakly armored, and horribly unbouncy. In broken country like the "bocage", a T-34/85 was not much inferior to a Tiger I, while a Sherman was just a rolling target with no hope of outflanking the beast and little chance of getting a penetrating hit either.
Hence the Tiger's reputation. It was actually not such a good tank except under certain conditions, but the US troops first faced them under precisely those conditions. In 1944, the US troops would rather take a detour than fight Tigers, while the Red Army simply called in the ISUs which made good use of the fact that for all its bulk, the armor layout of the Tiger was basically WW1 grade, and a good hit with 152mil HE on those huge flat plates would cause enough spalling to shred the Tiger crew.
Tigers were garbage tanks
At 4:22 this scene where tiger hit the extra tracks that was attached Infront of the tank, where supposed to be use for emergency like in land mine scene but,this part where it was hit the tracks fall into the ground, that's why at land mine scene they're not be able to fix the busted tank
Oh, yeah. Good catch!
I didn't know The Punisher was a tanker in WWII
I also didn't know that Sam Witwicky was a tanker
I'm just glad they got Benjamin Button in his prime.
Who tf let Tyler Durden on a tank?
@@arne0107Benjamin Button must've took a break from that fishing trawler he was on at the time, and enlisted in WW2 as a tank commander. He was reverse aging even then!
I personally was expecting zombies..... and ..... Caaaarrrrlllllllllllllllll
I love how they capture the crew after an engagement!!!
People who are upset with this scene need to understand that this is the last working tiger. Those that lended it to the producers of the film required it only be driven forward and if I remember correctly, only turn the turret to one side.
They did what they could with what they had. Doing this was better than than doing literally nothing.
They actually paid the tiger great respect by managing to get this specific tiger in the film.
Dude what are you on about? Have you watched the video? The tank is driving forwards AND backwards and is turning the turret to both sides.
This scene is just made to look cool just as the one where they drive towards that treeline where two anti tank guns just miss randomly.
Hollywood at its best.
@@dgbsturmnovik299 I may have been wrong about only going forwards unless the 2 seconds of reverse you see is CGI. But aside from that there is only 1 second where the barrel is visibly turning right. And that's when the tanks are viewed from a birds eye view for like one second, which looks extremely CGI to me. Everything else is camera tricks. Notice how 99% of the time the turret is to the right it's just sitting there. More than likely the turret was just turned all the way around from the left if I am correct. Truthfully I can't remember what video I watched that mentioned the heavily restricted movement but even if I can't, you can clearly see the cannon exclusively turning to the left and only reversing for a split second.
Also the scenes aren't that bad. Nicholas Moran reviewed them and said himself that aside from a few mistakes they were pretty good.
@@suchopsmimic399 Yes but there was a second tank with a physical mockup of the top of Tiger 131 that was placed on a modern tank chassis with the lower half painted blue for the CGI to show the wheels. But the film footage of Tiger 131 moving out of the brush across the field is of the real Tiger which is the only running original Tiger tank left in the world. Also any naysayers can doublecheck against the video The Tank Museum released today titled "FURY - How a Museum with a Sherman Made a Movie", cheers!
Shai LaBeouf plays his role SO well the way his "On one" is so intense but spot on to protect his unit. My great papaw served in WWI in the U.S. Army, papaw served in WWII in our U.S. Navy and my father served in the Vietnam conflict in our United States Marine Corps 3DMAW, MTAG, MAG-16 all to protect our country and keep our future generations safe. Honor and respect for our Veterans of Foreign wars always defending our nations freedom. Thank all of our veterans active duty and inactive keeping our nation safe. 🙏
On one? I always thought he was yelling "on the way"
@@Spearsy19It is
It’s on the way which is a element of a fire command for the gunner that we still use today
“On the way”
Как было бы на самом деле: Тигр,с пушкой 8,8, с 1.5км за минуту сжег бы все танки. Сначала первый,затем последней! И все...
если как на самом деле - пиндсы бы фильм хероический не сняли о своей героической доблести. все там джентельмены с бухлом и куревом в танке. не хватает только блекджека ну и дальше по смыслу ))))
It's real convenient how the two other Shermans kept scoring direct hits on the Tiger with their inferior 75mm guns, but Fury with its 76mm high-velocity gun, which would have penetrated the Tiger from the front, didn't. The contrivances in this movie were astounding.
Tiger “Let’s take out the leading tank with biggest gun. As in rule of engagement.”
Fin
there would be still another 76mm
@@adrian4596 It might actually be a deliberate choice by the Tiger's commander: in the initial setup (front-facing, at range, ambushing), a 75mm HE knocking out optics/hydraulics/electronics would be a bigger threat to a Tiger than the 76mm AP (which was notoriously unreliable if aimed in a hurry).
The 75mm and 76mm each had marked strengths and weaknesses. The 75mm was weak against heavy armor, but very versatile overall, while the 76mm was a dedicated tank-killer but its performance was highly situational. So the actual dilemma the Tiger commander is facing here is: take out the strong but less-than-reliable gun first, or the weaker but tactically flexible one? Or simply hit the first enemy you get a good aim on, and rely on your tank's fear factor? (A less hard-nosed CO than Wardaddy would likely have broken and ran.)
As an ex m1a1/a2 Abrams tanker….. I feel every second of this…
Man, everytime I come back to this scene it makes make want to play CoH2. This scene is amazing. This movie is amazing!
And CoH2 is amazing too!
Me when I stumble again on this scene I eagerly wanting to play all tank call of duty missions again
There was a single Tiger Tank led by SS commander Oberscharfueherer that wiped out 50 soviet tanks (T-34's) alone. Those were armed with 88's (88 mm artillery round i.e. flak cannon) and those could sink a ship. Absolutely no joke to go against, the 88s were the most feared weapon in the war besides the mg42 machine guns.
The most feared weapon of the war was allied bombs lmao, infantry and armor alike scattered and died when allied fighter bombers found them
His reflexes sure were off for a "battle hardened" tanker
More like traumatized tanker who wasn't expecting an ambush by a Tiger.
I don't know about that, took out an entire battalion size element, tanks, infantry and air support didn't seem to help those nazis 😂
Yes it's unrealistic in many aspects, mainly that no US tanks ever faced a Tiger 1, Brits and Canadians did though, fire flies evened the playing field later on, but I think they wanted to show all of the stereotypes of Sherman's vs Tigers that we've heard over the years, "it took 4 Sherman's to knock out 1 Tiger, The Sherman's would have to charge it and flank it, the Sherman's rounds bounced off the Tiger", when in reality War Daddys easy 8 Sherman could have penetrated that Tiger face on at 1,000 yards, still a good movie with great sound design, it sounded amazing in theaters.
Correction. The US Army faced Tigers in Italy, and were killing them with the 75. HOWEVER. After D-Day, the US Army faced Tigers three times: The first time the Shermans won, the second time the Pershing lost, and the third time they were being loaded onto flat cars so it wasn't exactly a fair fight.
As for the portrayal, I don't think that's what they were going for. I think it was more akin to what we saw with Saving Private Ryan, where the TC was losing his grip as a leader. A proper TC would've had the 75 Sherman keep the Tiger blinded while the 76s went hull down and popped the Tiger from range. In doing so, they would've only lost one tank (the one in the initial ambush), but the other three would've stayed operational. Wardaddy's tactics were way off in this, as he basically fed his only other Sherman to the Tiger. Both of them staying on the same flank would've resulted in the Tiger being taken out no problem before the gun could get back onto them.
This scene cause ridiculous amounts of discussion and pointless controversy. It's unfathomable how many armchair experts, field marshals and historians it attracted. Suddenly everyone's a war veteran and tactician pointing out what Tiger or Sherman did or should have done. And that's not even mentioning the fact that Fury could have easily penetrated the Tiger hull at this distance, or the fact that Tigers at that time were extremely rare sight. And here's a hard to swallow pill: Fury is still one of the most believable films set in the western front of WW2, and many ridiculous nitpicks directed at it could have also been easily directed at well known classics like Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers. Also there's an important aspect a lot of critics are forgetting. Human error. A Tiger at this time, in mid April 1945, literal days before the end would most likely be crewed by inexperienced conscripts or exhausted veterans
@@jackiemortes yep
@@jackiemortes At the distance, yes. But in an ambush situation?
"Crew members of destroyed M4A3 tanks reported direct hits with 76 mm tank fire bouncing off turret and front slope plates of enemy tank, which is further proof of inability of present medium tanks to successfully fight the [Tiger] tank." (781st Tank Battalion unit history, Jan 19 1945)
It did perform well on the firing range, when aimed at leisure. But it was also notorious for grossly underperforming when doing snap shots at moving targets (such as here).
"God, damm it"😂
3 Sherman tanks are not going to bum rush a Tiger Tank. They would come from 3 different directions. A Tiger would not try and get closer. It's range is longer than a Sherman but it's Hollywood not reality 😊
the 88mm would sink a sherman from 1500 meters, no reason to get out of cover and push them, hollywood 100% even the 76mm on Fury, ain't enough to fight a tiger on distance
This kids. 😂 Hardly make a word in front of his bully. And now they are experts in war tactics. 😂
@@DomeFCK Did you miss the part where they blocked the Tiger's view with smoke? If it just sat in cover they would have easily flanked and destroyed it.
They didn't even have to do that. There was no reason to close the distance when Fury could easily punch a hole in the front of the Tiger from a thousand yards
@@redbarrelentertainment 76mm getting through a Tigers armor from that range? I'm no tank expert but you need a direct hit for sure. Let me know if im wrong Lol 😆
this scene is what I'd imagine a world of tanks movie to be like.
Inaccurate? Yes
Like the Tiger would have wanted to close the distance🤣🤣🤣 I can hear Michael Wittmann pissing his sides laughing all the way from Valhalla
fury would also have been the first they would have tried to disable, given its obvious much more powerfull gun as its the only tank in the platoon that can actually threaten a tiger from that range, being singled out to be taken out first was a known risk for american tank crews driving that sherman varaint, to the point they tried all sorts of shit to make their barrel look diffrent
Interesting they didn't try to cover the actual battle damage on the Tiger; the holes in the air cleaning system on the back. Original holes are there. Figured the props department could have covered them.
Minor damage, they aren’t bullet holes, they are just wear, which would be common
3:52 the Tiger commander says "don't let him get behind us". 😂😂😂😂😂
Dude, you have a rotating turret on a f***ng TIGER. Aim and shoot goddammit.
Sherman excelente con gran movilidad y poder de fuego, tiger súper pesado...los tres restantes lo hacen picadillo...
I have visited many WW2 Museums and Tank Museums here in Europe. Those Shermans looks so miserable if you compare them with Tigers. But on the other hand Tigers are not practical to maintain. Tigers have 23L Maybach Engine with 700 HP. Russian T-Series tanks were also little , practical and easy to maintain. Really the only reason Germans lost was because they were out-numbered but they have choosen to randomly attack everywhere so they should know the consequences.
even now, moving like this in a column across open ground in enemy territory means automatically making yourself a target. From an ambush this way you can shoot any number of armored vehicles.
4:04, at that moment fury would have blown up.
2:27 at that moment tigor would have blown up
@@adrian4596the shot most likely came from the 75 rather than the 76 without the muzzle brake…
I doubt that, at worst the engine would be dead and the tank would be on fire, but there could be a twist where WarDaddy says “Fuck it”, gets outta Fury, kills the Tiger commander and drops a grenade into the tank through the cupola killing the crew and basically somewhat damaging the tank maybe enough to ignite the ammunition.
On a serious note, no, it would not have killed the Sherman, it’d have mobility killed it, the Sherman at that point already closed the gap and given the tiger crew was insanely incompetent, a round would be loaded after the tiger shoots their engine deck and then the tiger’s turret would turn into a ME-262 for a brief moment and yes the shot landed at the engine deck and most likely would’ve mobility killed fury, but it most definitely would NOT have blown up fury.
So the conclusion is
We have a dead tiger ( thanks to either Brad throwing a grenade through the cupola and into the turret or John reloads the gun and Shia lands a shot before the incompetent tiger crew could ), Fury is immobilized, fury crew live I guess because they don’t got a cannon anymore and a last stand would be useless
@@vynicle2284 more then likley wardaddy runs at a tiger the gunners will cut him down instantly
The German gunners 1st primary target is the 76mm long barrel Sherman.
Firefly...
Yanks didn't have Fireflies. Brits and Canadians did. No Fireflies in that tank formation. None had the 'Bustle at the rear of the turret.
There are 2 of them.
Fury was an “Easy Eight” not a Firefly. It had the 76 mm, same as the M-10. The Firefly had a British 17 pounder anti-tank gun.
@@bugattieb110ss And even if the US had Fireflies (or Achilles), they would not have put them in a normal tank platoon, but operated them as a seperate kill team. (Hence that glass cannon racecar named "Hellcat". WW2 US tank destroyers were not to be deployed as frontline/assault units, but to wait at the back and rush in when the German tanks were distracted.)
"Why didn't the Tiger shoot the lead tank?" Because then there wouldn't be a movie
"Why did the Tiger advance out of the smoke?" Because it's the only operational Tiger tank left in the world! Don't you want to see it moving?
"Why do they try to get around the rear of the Tiger when Fury's 76mm gun should've been able to penetrate its frontal armour?" Because it makes the scene more tense and anxious
If you had a war movie that was 100% slavishly faithful to real life, it would be BORING, full stop
People alway criticize these scenes saying ohhh the tiger woukd never do that or ohhhh thats not realistic, bruh people dont always make the right decisions, the crew could be brand new or whatever excuse you need, just enjoy the awesome scenes
That's not true with Tiger commanders. They were basically handpicked to maximise Tiger's strenghts and pretty much all of Tiger's officiers were highly experienced tankmans even by the late stages of the War.
Whether it’s completely accurate isn’t the issue. Imagine enduring this type of violence almost every day for years.
Think about that for a minute.
The problem for me here is at the start of any engagement they would take out the lead tank first. After that the rear tank then mop up the rest.
In 3:58 the tiger went forward insted of countinuing going back so that the americans can win😂
If it's a real world War I am sure the German commander don't ever move forward
He’s trying to do the same thing as the fury was doing. Or either he’s trying to get the side armor but it’s the crews iq, not the tank.
Awesome scene... Flaws and all... Real teamwork!
Wasnt the most accurate but was the most epic
WW2 Veteran's interview: ''At first, knowing that the Germans had no Air support, we thought we were the lucky ones to be inside a Tank. After we encountered the Tiger, we all wished we were on foot. We were trapped inside our own Tanks''
That tiger has some tough armor dam
"Now, this is where I cheat a little bit on the tactics - and all you military guys out there probably did a forehead slap when you saw this - is the Tiger actually shoots the last tank in the column. You're not supposed to do that, you're supposed to shoot the first tank in the column, which then forces the column to stop, and then you shoot the last one. And then you pick off the guys in the middle. So I know that I cheated because if they shoot the first tank, Brad's dead, movie's over, roll credits. That's not very fun." -David Ayer, Writer/Director of "Fury"
Well there is another thing.
Fury is the tank with the gun to penetrate the tiger frontally.
They could have shown that they tried to make the barrel less visible (crews often tried to make it look shorter by painting them)
Moreover. The Tiger has the same armor on the sides as on the back. A Sherman only has to flank it.
So all this time they have this tank with a gun specifically designed to pen heavy armor from the front. And they don't use it...
@@MrDwarfpitcher fun fact, while this is true, it's not just the gun. You need the right ammo, and the special Tiger-killing (HVAP) ammo wasn't issued very much if at all, even to 76mm Shermans. Main reason being: It was expensive AF to make, and by the time of D-Day, the American TCs were happy with the Shermans performance, even against Tigers and Panthers. And many of them felt that having a couple HVAP rounds in stowage took up space for other rounds which would be more useful (since even after D-Day, tank encounters were pretty rare for the US Army)
@@Tank50us HVAP wasn't necessary to punch through the front plate of a Tiger if from a 76 M1 cannon. It would if it were a shot from one of the 75s, but the APC-T shell from the 76 was more than enough to smoke its UFP.
Should’ve kept him under smoke while charging and got wider on him…
Although it is not realistic for the tiger to advance towards the Shermans, as the tiger from its position would have easily blown them away, it is one of the most realistic scenes I have ever seen, watching the brief tiger scene in this movie gives you leave more Of course how terrifying and desperate it was to encounter one of these in the fields of Germany, a fantastic film.
It moved because it was blinded by the smoke.
@@jackiemortes The Tiger could've easily reversed and created even more distance for the Shermans to cross before having a chance.
Though realistically Fury itself would've been able to shoot through the front of the Tiger with no issues, the 76mm was made for such an occasion.
Sherman won battle 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me (5:40) when I am very pissed off with an annoying customer that don't give a crap about my valid explanation about their freaking bill
That things a beast,
Imagine this crew had a tiger?! Got damn!!!!!
This movie has always been hard to watch . Brad pit has my grandfathers rank and job. And i have listened to all these stories . And the hell they faced against superior tanks.
Crazy sherman vs germany tank 😮
Brad was awesome in this
Shear fear followed by laughter. Knowing you just survived two hits. What else can you say..
I will never forget going to this movie when it very first open up at the theater itself, an army Buddy of mine took me out to see it since they were allowing army people to see it for the very first time for free. As I headed into the theater itself however, I notice that I was only person with a full set of long hair within that place itself. Sure there was a few ladies that had a full set of hair, but I was the only guy that had hair that was very long. Everyone just stared at me while being confused. Almost wanted to shine a flashlight to see how many heads would shine, but I knew that would've just been a bad ideal possibly.....also I didn't wanted to go blind from the light reflection
Nie ma bestii, której nie da się pokonać 💪
If the plot demands it.
I know this movie was unrealistic in many ways, but I found it be to be a very moving and emotional film.
Never look left or right. Ever.
I loved this movie. On the way!
:) That's a line from Beast of War - still works though
Don't bunch up.
1 grenade 5 gone.
I wonder how painful it is after getting your tank shot twice and the metal clanking from high velocity anti-tank rounds that would totally destroy your eardrums or rupture or organs from vibration even tho tiger is powerful i wonder how soldiers handle those situations.
Well, my father drove a British scout tank in that war. They handled it simply because they had no other choice at the time, and this was the same for the people on both sides. The sheer noise of being inside those things when they were running, whether or not you got hit by enemy fire, tended to ruin people's hearing after awhile, and my father had poor hearing for the rest of his life because of it. He was lucky that they never took a direct hit from the German tanks and anti-tank guns. One of the latter, hidden in some bushes, very nearly hit their turret on one occasion, just as they mounted the crest of a hill, but missed them by an inch or so, and apparently the shock wave alone shook the whole tank "like a dog shaking a rat", as he put it. They got the hell back behind the hill in a couple of seconds and called in some airplanes, which quickly knocked out the German gun, killing its crew. That was how they usually dealt with such situations, given that the Allies had total air superiority in the fighting over Normandy and France...just call in the fighter bombers. There wasn't a thing the Germans could do about it. Their planes were back defending the Reich against the Allied bombing campaign or trying to hold off the Russians in the East. They had nothing much left in the air to put over the western front...and that made it impossible for them to win the campaign. But they could still kill you. Not a situation anyone wants to be in, that is for sure.
8JUL43 A Tiger engaged 50 T-34's, killed 27, took 67 hits & survived.
The crew would've been hearing bells for days. Even ricochets can do damage to the crew by causing spalling.
There are so many problems in this scene! First: WWII German tank ace Otto Karius said in an interview that whenever he encountered a column of enemy tanks, he always aimed for the leader first, then the last, and so the others were pinned down, then it was clear carnage.... Other: Why did the tiger come out of hiding? It was at a perfect distance for the 88 mm gun, and the Tigers are known for accurate hits from over 2 kilometers, especially at Kursk and Prokhorovka.... There was no point in going out of the bushes, it is very clear that M4s are faster maneuverable than the tiger.! And yet, it's like a movie, and even if they had followed the realistic scenario, the movie would have ended there😅
8JUL43 a Tiger engaged 50 T-34's, killed 27 & took 67 hits before the contact was over.
Mechanical failure killed more Tigers than combat.
OMG its another Tiger!
Bible, who doesn't swear the entire film lets 3 F-Bombs fly in this scene and it's awesome.
I really like the movie because it comes close to what certain events would have played out. Since this movie takes places in the last 6 months of the war we can assume the tank crew including the commander of the Tiger is seasoned. Very seasoned.
So it would have shot the the first tank, not the last. Staggering the others.
But skip that and get to point where the shermans fired smoke to conceal - I think that would have been a solid decision. Also pushing the Tiger since you got no way out because of forest behind you and a straight road. Its fight or flight with flight beeing out of the equation.
The "push" seems to be a bit to much head on instead of trying to flank. But this is not a biggy. What is, is the decision of the Tiger to push and fire while moving. The moving forward part is explainable to come out of the smoke to get targets. After that: just silly.
The Tiger relied on range to enemies (T34 and Shermans got penetrated well beyond 800m). It had a slow moving turret. Very poor accuracy on the move (all the WW2 tanks had) and whatever you do, you dont want the enemy to get close or even on your flank or back.
So after the Tiger cleared the smoke the realistic thing would have been: stop. Aim at Fury (since it has more leathal 76' gun). Kill it. Aim to the other tank. Kill it.
But its a movie after all.
No, 6 months is about the average life expectancy of a German tanker in ww2. These would've been reserve units probably very young 15 or 16 towards the end of the war, as everyone else was killed
3:52 Tiger begging him not to do it
Thank you mr. realist…
Though how inaccurate it is, it's a pretty cool scene and it was fucking amazing in theater.
5:40 Before and Now, always they are......Lol
No tiger is left alone 😅
There were not that many tank on tank battles in WW2 because Sherman commanders knew to run like hell when they saw a Tiger. The plan for attacking a Tiger was to wait for it to break down and hit it with artillery, a tank destroyer or Air support.
Couldn't have been that good last I checked the Nazis lost
Never gets old
That was the last operational Tiger tank on the planet.... you will never see that again...
First of all..No. All those sherman gun tubes are at 12 o'clock and way to close together.
To my vast knowledge, US Shermans never came up against Tigers, only the British with their modified Shermans called Firefly's.
Good flick.
This same scene actually took place in northern Syria between a Turkish conquest and a Kurdish t72.
Best of Brad P
This scene was heavily analyzed by Baffcuzz on YT.
Thank you Albury Wodonga for getting on the top 10
Great sequence as long as you’re not very knowledgeable on WW2 tanks and armor tactics 😊
Not exactly. This was more of a Red Army T-34 tactic, but in a situation such as this, a Sherman platoon (particularly a mixed-gun one like here) could have done it from sheer desperation. Usually though, they would simply have retreated and taken a detour. You could easily outrun a Tiger in a Sherman, after all - even if the Tiger didn't break down ;-)
@@willietorben560 Fury's 76mm would have easily punched through the side of the Tiger well before the dramatic point-blank "we have to shoot it in the a$$!!!" portion of the sequence - but I get it, that would have ruined the drama, just like retreating and taking a detour
You summed it up nicely, but it was entertaining as hell.
That guy yelling out "or what"
Everytime the order to shoot is giving
Pisses me off
The British used Shermans too. After D-Day they were often picked off by German AT guns.
Being bung-full of juice, they easily caught fire. If my research is accurate, if the turret was turned more than 15', the escape hatches wouldn't open!
That's why the Germans called them "Tommy Cookers"
And yet the Shermans were the (second, Churchills gotta Churchill) most survivable tank of the war, curious isn't it
War is laden with ironies.
Hitler was awarded the Iron Cross in WW1 which he proudly wore. You can see it in many photographs of him.
The adjutant who put him up for the medal, Leutnant Guttman, was a Jew!
Sherman’s were never made for tank battle, but somehow the movies always depict they were.
they were adapted, eg firefly ...sherman chassis pounder gun on top. Antitank, the problem was the 75 mm sherman and below. Also the armor. In this case we can see that the tiger is not properly angled...its like rookies are controlling that Tiger I .... on top of that, tiger cannot move the turret on move. So he should have stood his own point and take them out 1 by 1 from afar .
PD : XDDDDDD an 88 mm Tiger armor piercing with explosive filler round was stopped by WOOD. XDDDDD ty hollywood really trashy scene thanks to the bullshit... take notes gaijin maybe u can put up with this bullshit too in your videogame.
@@carlostorres6908 True, for a gross miscalculation of need. A German tank commander, I forget who, said the Tiger could take out four Sherman's easy. Problem was the Americans came with five.
Considering the US had to ship tanks across the Atlantic, the smaller, more numerous Sherman did fairly well all things considered. It was adapted to many roles and upgraded constantly to where it could compete with a Tiger or Panther. It started the war and ended it too, something the Tiger can't claim.
The Sherman is the perfect blitzkrieg or schwerpunkt tank in that it’s reliable, fast and reasonably well armoured whereas ironically the Tiger is unreliable, slower but heavily armoured and more a defensive weapon than an attacking one.
@alexbowman7582 you are beyond wrong lol, Sherman's where highly unreliable, they broke down ALOT and they where awkward and slow use, tigers where smaller in size and also faster by alot, and the arm was a bit better however it was the way the armor was placed that matters most the tiger had angles that could easily deflect rounds and it was also slightly thicker by like an inch i believe, my grandfather who was a tank Gunner said it was the equivalent to putting a Sherman against a mark 1 Bertha in ww1, your shooting at something slow awkward and heavy and all of your rounds just cut through it like butter. In his wards that's why tanks often have infantry support, because they can spot the tigers better and can sometimes make a mobility kill on the tigers.
2:32 BOOM Headshot!
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My father, god rest his soul, always laughed whenever he saw that. I miss his fucked up sense of humor
The most unrealistic part is that the tiger did not rotate. It could simply rotate its front to face the sherman. The sherman would have lost
They weren't allowed to 'rotate'. There were strict instructions from the Tiger's owners NO TURNS.
Besides the E8 Sherman possibly could've punched through the Tiger's frontal armour from the road & definitely from 500yds.
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This was actually a Sherman Firefly tank that had a 76mm high velocity gun not the regular Sherman with the 75mm low velocity cannon
No, the long-barreled Sherman's were armed with the American 76. An easy way to distinguish an American 76 from the British 17 pdr was that the firefly had the radio in the back, which looked like a big box compared to the smooth rear turret of the American 76
The American latewar 76 was called the M1A1C as the muzzle brake denotes was only implemented in late 1944
@@XII-inside-bruh I thought it was the muzzle brake I stand corrected
Btw it’s not a firefly just to highlight that it’s a M4A3E8
@@one4thought776 The Firefly's 17pdr had a weird oval muzzle brake which was rounded off all around, with no outward edges and angles. Easy to recognize if you know what to look for. (It looks like made from cast iron, but I don't think it is possible to cast a muzzle brake without turning it into a muzzle break first time the gun is fired...)
Tracers could be a little bit dimmer.
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