How Paul George Gave Up On The Indiana Pacers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ค. 2024
- The Paul George era in Indiana is most often remembered for the way it began, with high-flying dunks in an epic battle against LeBron James. The Pacers were just one game away from reaching the finals in 2013, but they never again reached that stage in the years following. Why did Paul George suddenly grow frustrated, and why did Indiana never win a championship? This is what lead to Paul George giving up on the Pacers front office.
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Tracks Used (in order): controlc.com/c9838969
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
03:07 - Rookie Season
04:16 - 2011 Offseason
04:45 - 2011-2012 Season
05:59 - 2012 Playoffs
07:26 - 2012-13 Season
09:18 - 2013 Playoffs
13:38 - 2013 Offseason
13:53 - 2013-14 Season
15:04 - 2014 Playoffs
18:21 - Paul George Leg Injury
18:47 - 2014-15 Season
19:40 - 2015 Offseason
20:07 - 2015-16 Season
21:12 - 2016 Playoffs
22:08 - Help Is Requested
22:52 - 2016-17 Season
24:07 - 2017 Playoffs
26:43 - Why PG13 Was Fed Up
29:09 - Conclusion
The turbulent Indy saga aside, PG’s recovery from that horrific leg injury has been a sight to see👏🏾
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Congratulations on graduating, brother.
It was disgusting I remember all this live especially him saying that about cj thought he was high than and now . Also thought he was next lbj … very wrong! But if that injury DIDNT HAPPEN!?
Indi is a dogshit poverty organization, not the fault of PGs injury proneness.
Easiest injury to come back from. Bone breakages heal stronger. Blowing out your knee and tearing acl and MCL doesn’t look as bad but is much harder to get back to 100%
The PG Pacers are proof that all it takes is one bad trade to completely derail a contender and that's before George's leg damn near snapped in half.
Not to mention a terrible free agent signing.
If you think about it… his legged would’ve never snapped if their was no trade😳
@@DoseOfMaine we will never know
The Kawhi trade or the Granger trade
@@chubb.e.cheese5954granger, they were insanely good before the granger trade
I don’t think Indiana’s front office gets enough credit for the Paul George trade getting 2 all stars for a player with at the time 1 year on his contract who had publicly requested a trade
And nothing came out of it
@@JuliusKinderis they could still get someone from trading Sabonis
Yes but at the time it was looked as highway robbery.
Nobody gets credited until they win a championship. Check out the early 2000s Suns… best teams in the league, never ever are talked about…
@@GreenBayEagle yes they are talked about 💀wym
Paul George “gave up” because they literally didn’t wanna get him anything even good, legit 2017 was an awful team and in 2014 they legit started moving his veterans when they were doing the leadership, the Pacers are the one to blame.
Thank you . People think they know everything
thank you! pacers definitely had the assets to trade for a 23 year old All NBA all Defense potential MVP who had just signed a 5 year extension. like hello how did the pelicans whiff on the incredible turner/lavoy allen/late-round picks package they could have gotten??? all they ended up with was that crappy ingram/ball/hart/hunter/three firsts deal, ewwwww, would you trade myles and lavoy for that trash???
oh wait this is just his stupid revisionist history. pacers never could have had ad, they never had the young assets or other teams picks that would have made it possible. pacers probably tried to trade for ad but couldnt make it work because they wanted PG in the trade. if there is anything to be mad at the pacers front office about, its for not trading pg for ad. except then we saw ad turned out to be a piece of shit too, so it would have been the same thing again.
and that 17-18 team would have beaten the shit out of any pg13 led team. not pg24, he was a good dude, but pg13's 'all about me' "teams", blegh, give me the troy murphy kareem rush earl watson pacers over 'wayoff p' any day
I mean he still hasn't won anything or matched his success in Indiana, so are the Pacers really to blame?
@@Youngindy21 He Just came from the Western Conference Finals in which he played some of his Best basketball in his carer. What R U talking about.
It's not wrong what you said, but when there are so many times that he bailed on teams "for a legit" reason, should you still think it's not his fault? This isn't just his NBA career, when he was younger he changed high school 4 times and it wasn't because of a family relocation, then don't we all rememeber what happened between him and Doc's daughter? PG is one of those guys, some might call smart some might call selfish, he only think for himself and constantly needs to be pamperd, and will leave if he is facing challenges (if he can leave, right now with the clips he can't, otherwise he totally will), it's part of the reason why he performs poorly as Kawhi's sidekick but awesome when he is the alpha.
its crazy to think that indiana couldve had paul george and kawhi leonard and still had all the core guys around them if they didnt make the trade
Except Indiana didn't pass on khawi. They traded the pick to San Antonio before a decision was made who to use it on.
Kawhi probably wouldn’t have developed into what he is today in Indiana
@@Bearsfan15654 Yes probably. Being in a Spurs system surrounded by hall of fame players & coach definitely was a boon for him. However, I feel like his work ethic is such that he would have developed into a star or even a superstar sooner or later on any team.
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@@Bearsfan15654
Wrong under Pop he would've been a glorified 3 and D player (he was). After he won the Finals MVP a flip switched and he decided to become THE guy and the passing of the torch began as Duncan announced retirement.
Trading Danny Granger out of nowhere mentally destroyed this team
I think that's what caused the team to blow up, and to make matters worse, Paul George's broken leg was the gut puncher
@@jamesbartee6184 Granger was the reason Paul George got better during those years as a pacer he was the locker room leader of the team at the time
Indy was right, that man averaged 7 points in his last two seasons and played only 34games, stop glorifying washed players
Points aren’t everything
Somehow, the whole PG saga is one of the most memorable ones for me from the 2010s...
2013 and 2014 series against the Heat are one of the best I have watched in my life. I still remember those days, being excited watching every game and catching every moment. Something about those series is different, I would compare it to GSW-OKC 2016, GSW-CLE 2016... one of those series where you just feel like “what the fuck” for every play on the court and realize how truly astonishing and “on the other level” it had been days/months/years later.
for real, I was a fan of PG when he was in the Indiana. watching every game at BTV and the most memorable moment for me is I watched his 360 live
@@riasgremory6380 i was a fan of pg24. never was a fan of pg13, diva assclown. that 360 was a pg24 moment for sure
@@nikpetrovic3877 I also don't want him to leave Indiana and he was not as good as PG24 rn
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@@nikpetrovic3877 don’t see how he was a diva
As a pacers fan he said it best “we just weren’t good enough” and unlike march madness or the NFL where a bad team can slip in, and get hot, and possibly advance a few rounds it’s alot harder in multiple 7 game series.
This year Miami heat
Not harder just different but not harder
The reasons why Orlando struggled against Indiana in the 2012 playoffs is because Dwight Howard was out with his back injury. He didn’t place a single game in that series.
I'm glad somebody said it
@@MikeJones-io2zv wrong opinion
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The amount of research and editing deserves a reward
Dylan, bruh if you keep going at this rate with such great content you're gonna become one of the best basketball channels on TH-cam! Props for the excellent content man ✌
He didn’t give up on them, they gave up on him
Yeah
Another story of a great player surrounded by bad gm and teammates.
Didn't PG say he wanted to play in L.A. so they decided to trade him instead of losing him in the offseason and getting nothing in return or am I trippin?
I don't even remember at this point 😅
@@uchihamadara6211 no you’re right it’s just everyone else is uneducated
@@uchihamadara6211 anthony Davis confirmed they wanted to play together in indiana, But the pacers management did not make it happen
my first basketball game i went to was a hawks game and i didn’t know much about basketball because i was only 11 at the time, i watched a prime paul george tear the hawks up and i think it was at that moment i became a basketball fan
I don't like PG, but even I have to admit the Pacers ruined a team that was in contention by throwing off the chemistry of the locker room. You had a young core who was hungry and some solid veterans that could guide them. Once you break the confidence of your players, you might as well label the entire progression a bust.
Great vid Dylan! Miss those Pg days, I was wondering if you could make a vid about how John Wall’s wizards could never succeed or how the hornets squandered Kenna Walkers talent
Both good choices
has he done a video on the carmelo knicks? i wanna know why they fell off after 2013
@@meep7895 Dylan do a Carmelo one please
This is one of the best nba channels out here no cap I love these types of videos
Another great DDB video. Good job man. And great work on the diction, much appreciated.
I got to see PG13 in his 2nd season for OKC, it was my 3rd nba game I saw live (as im from new Zealand) but he looked like the best player I've ever seen 39 points against the Orlando Magic
The magic bruh. Lol
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@@toblutx6265 it’s still an nba team. Dropping 39 even in a regular league full of regular joes is hard too
I’m from American and never seen a game live. IDK how old you are, but if you’re a kid, you need to thank your parents daily.
@@skywalker2676 Yeah ong getting 39 points on ANY nba team even the shittiest one is still impressive. The people youre playing against are good enough to have a roster spot in a professional basketball team.
Them losing Danny Granger was a terrible idea. He was everyone's big brother in the locker room, and great mentor for the team.
Another great video!! I always end up learning a more whenever I watch your videos
One banger video after another, keep going like this🙌
after the scrimmage injury his passion for the pacers dissipated
bro came back to a team that was way worse than the one he has pre injury
@@longtran1080 Top 5 PF of all time
5 - Dennis Rodman
4 - Giannis
3 - Kevin Garnett
2 - Tim Duncan
1 - Paul George
@@youngboy2pacdrakelol. No
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If only Danny Granger didn't get injured, Pacers would've beat the Miami Heat in 7 in 2013
I'm a huge heat fan and I must say your right on that point
then woulda got spanked in the finals by the spurs
Just to get dismantled by the Spurs
@@TsukiRaiki I think even getting to the finals would've had a great impact on his legacy.
Shocked this channel hasn’t blown up, straight up nostalgia-bait (in a good way), and great history lesson remembrance.
Have to admit Dylan. I never liked your videos when I started watching but wow man you have a subscriber in me now your doing a fantastic job. Keep it up.
Great content bro, keep em coming !
Great video!! I’m a huge fan of this series 🔥
These video essays are amazing. You deserve more subscribers
“The city of Indiana”
Loved the video, keep up the good work man!
PG13s best version of himself was definitely in a pacers jersey , miss watching those pacers teams they were always on the cusp of greatness they should’ve kept that main core together. Once they let go Danny Granger that’s when their decline started.
His peak was in OKC
you can argue he’s still in his prime now
i be waiting all week for ur vids bruh hurry up i need these
These deep dives are better than documentaries, subbed 👌
This is my first time watching one of your videos and your videos seem very well edited and well made all together. I am going to sub
IVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS
HAPPY TO SEE NEW VIDEO,THANK YOU!!
This is a very good video man. Good job
I'm a big heat fan and I remember Paul playing us in the Eastern conference finals and never feeling as nervous as playing that dude.
seeing u with only 55k hurts, more people need to see these gems
What's the outro song at the end its fire
@@darnellwilliams8783 I’ve seen you before and I remember I am not a fan
Dylan doesn’t miss. Keep up the great work!
This is a miss
Another banger 💯 keep em coming!
Underrated content keep it up brotha
I really wish I was watching Basketball at the time so I could have seen these Pacers. the fact that they took Miami's big 3 to 7 games is amazing, it's a shame it wasn't sustainable.
Crazy how West got a ring before any of them, and how PG, Danny Granger, Lance, and Hibbert all played for LA at some point, with Lance playing for both the Clippers and Lakers.
This channel need to blow up 🔥
Bro you are extremely underrated man you need more clout
Ur intros are always so fire
I love the narration man keep it up
lowkey i dont think Kawhi would develop the way he is now if he was on Indy
I agree
Ur so right bro Indiana deadass dont care
Another great video
These videos take work I am subscribing
Here’s a guy who gave his all to a franchise for 7 years, Is one of the most greatest players said franchise will ever have and they just threw him out. The pacers definitely got the better end of the deal though. Sabonis is a solid piece for them.
9 years? He was drafted in 2010 and left in 2017. Your math is all the way off.
Couldn't be more wrong. He gave his all for the first several years, then his ego became inflated and the finger pointing started.
@@mrgiannopolis i would be pissed off too if my second star roy hibbert suddenly became trash overnight and it became clear to me that my team was no longer trying to contend and i was wasting my time
@@Alex-hr1bn PG chased everyone off. West got sick of his diva attitude, they never gave Evan Turner a chance, and Teague hated George.
Telling you the guy is a cancer. Terrible teammate. Thought he was a superstar and wanted to be treated like one but he wasn't. Never hit any game winners during his time here, couldn't lift us past the Heat (and had several series where he disappeared), always pointing fingers at teammates, fans, coaches, literally anyone for himself. Pacers fans witnessed this happen that's why we were stoked to get rid of him.
@@mrgiannopolis past the heatles? seriously? nobody aside from the pacers stood a chance. the celtics had a big three and even they lost everytime. the pacers had what? west? he was good but nowhere near any of the heatles stars and roy hibbert who was only there defense.
paul george was huge for that team. only reason pacers even went that far. publicly he never apologized or cried about his losses but you can tell he worked hard behind the scenes
if he wasnt a hard worker how did he come back from his leg snapping in half? how did he come back after that horrid bubble season where his own teammates laughed at him?
Another fire vid!
Love your videos
great video as always goat
26:10 “the city of Indiana” 🤣
Found that funny. Great video! Keep it up. Love your content!
listening to one of these while in the shower is strangely one of the best feelings i have ever felt
I never got notified about this upload
great vid as always. Would you do a video on The rise and fall of Derrick Rose? How about the redemption of Lonzo Ball? Thanks!
As usual another banger!
Only 52,000 subscribers with this kind of content I would've guessed you had four times that
MY HEART DROPPED WHEN I SAW THE NOTY
When he left, Pacers had to maka a choice: trade or max him. If they had given him the max, the team would be stagnated as Portland. There was no way, he needed to be traded. He's not the alpha guy
well he took the clippers to the conference final as the guy and wouldve won if not for that clutch ayton basket and him missing free throws
@@Alex-hr1bn "if"
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fr he needs to make a patreon I’d support
As Paul George developed, the Pacers waved good bye to good veterans and tried to replace them with draft and 1 year stop gaps. Its like what's happening to Luka and the Mavericks right now.
you deserve way more subs
1:18/30:02 that dunk versus my Clippers (360 windmill reverse) made me go “this guy can play”
Keep em coming bro 🔥🔥🔥
Im from florida and was a massive heat fan, didnt watch basketball TOO much (I was also like 7-11 years old from 10-14) but I remember watching some of the games and I distinctly remember being "scared" of paul george. I dont remember anybody else on those pacers team, but I remember how amazing he was back then
Much like Oladipo, Paul George just wasn't the same player after he left The Pacers. He certainly isn't revered as much. He was beloved in Indiana. I remember his first few seasons when he would always say "Hi Mom, HI Dad after every post game interview. Oh well, future's looking bright for the Pacers finally.
Bro i just found ur channel the other day and damn i love this shit.
Man, I did NOT know the Pacers drafted and then traded Kawai Leonard. Big oof. I remember those Pacers / Heat playoff series, though. Those were some intense, fun-to-watch games!
Paul George was a great player. I think what made me more sad when he left is how much he had embraced Indiana. Thought he was going to be a career Pacer, like Reggie. Through the leg injury and everything, then the guy just split. Indiana might not ever win a chip, it being a small market team. You either embrace playing for the Pacers or you don't.
Proud of my lil cuz! He got hurt but he overcame expectations and went beyond. As far as the Pacers, I am glad none of my folks playing with them!
This is fire 🔥 you should do one about LEBRON leaving Cleveland the first time That would be real interesting
That would be awesome.
I miss those times, when Indiana was good and they had Hill, George and Hibbert. Was my favorite team. It was fun watching them play regular season, but they just couldn't manage to do anything in the playoffs and was frustrating, just like the Rockets, which I rooted for afterwards.
They were awesome to watch. I always thought a finals of them vs the Grizzlies with Conley, Allen, Gay, Randolph, and Gasol would have been a great series
You should make a video about Demar Derozan and the raptors
Just crazy how almost beating the big 3 miami heat, to leaving a few seasons later, just crazy
That Indiana defense was no joke. The last team you ever see hold any offense under 90 points every week
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Great video again, everyone who watches yours vids needs to sub frfr
Had to show that Hibbert Block on Melo in Game 6 😩💔 If Melo dunks that ball, I truly believe the Knicks win that game & win Game 7 at MSG.. That Knicks team was legit & was the only time they had an actual shot at beating LeBron/Miami. We smashed the Celtics & their aging Big 3. We were down 12, late in the 3rd in Game 6 in Indiana. Suddenly, the young Iman Shumpert WENT OFF, scoring 16 points in 6 minutes to head to the 4th Tied. Knicks were up 2 w/ 5 min remaining in the 4th. They were playing great ball. Melo went up for that dunk & the block completely changed the game & series. Knicks would’ve been up 4 w/ under 5 min to go w/ all the momentum. Instead, Hibbert blocks it, ties the game & the Knicks didn’t score for the next 3 minutes. Melo finished w/ 39 Points. Would’ve had at least 41 w/ the W.. Knicks beat the Pacers in Game 2 at the Garden by 26 & Game 5 at the Garden by 10. That Block really changed everything… Knicks matched up better w/ Miami than Indiana, that year. Indiana was TOUGH defensively w/ PG, Hibbert, West, Hill, Lance Stephenson, etc… I’m sure most ppl don’t care, but let me live the very little “Glory Days” of the 2010’s 😂…
That 2012-2013 Knicks team finished 54-28. 1st in the Atlantic Division. 2nd in the Eastern Conference behind Miami. A mix of young talent, brought in a bunch of Vets & had the Superstar. Melo averaged 29 pts in the reg Szn & 29 pts in 12 playoff games. A lot of ppl forget this squad..
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudamire
JR Smith
Tyson Chandler
Raymond Felton
Jason Kidd
Iman Shumpert
Kenyon Martin
Rasheed Wallace
Steve Novak
Pablo Prigioni
Chris Copeland
Marcus Camby
Kurt Thomas
Quentin Richardson
Ronnie Brewer
What a Squad ! Even if just for 1 year of being an awesome team together… Kidd turned that team around, his influence & leadership alone.. Melo was able to just play & JR Smith was very talented. 6th man of the year. Not the Cavs JR Smith. Tyson Chandler Defensive Player of the Year. Loved the way Felton played! Felt a lot like John Starks that season. Ah mannn.. Let’s Go RJ Barrett…
5 years later and PG was 100% right about pacers ownership. The team only wants to be competitive enough and will never truly aim to contend unless by sheer luck. The only reason they started rebuilding now is because attendance was terrible and they need new blood in the arena.
The Pacers were the best overall franchise in the ABA with 3 titles...In the NBA for 46 years and NO TITLES...feels like it could go to 100 years and above...Just sad how our throats are stepped on for almost 50 years (The Chicago Cubs of The NBA)...
Great video
This channel is GOATED 🔥
Ur vids are so good
PG is the poster child for how to develop a great basketball player. Patience, develop each skill piece by piece, don't dump him into too big of a role too fast. Indiana just didn't put talent around him
Good video I remember watching all this go down but really not nearly enough said for Danny Granger, he was this team and the man for a long while. Hibbard is mentioned as an All Star and one two punch with George at a time when Granger was still the number one option?? Hibbard at his peak was nothing compared to Granger but gets mentioned and praised far more? I get it's a video about Paul and all but Granger didn't need diminished this much.
Best basketball story TH-cam channel
good video so far
I like how the titles you type into TH-cam are ALWAYS different from the title of your videos.
The thing is that everyone loves these young players and their teams when they’re becoming stars but forget to remember how hard it is to win in a small market and end up losing patience and that’s how super teams are formed
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All these super teams are honestly horrible for the league and the small market teams
@@jayz4evr bruh just sign anthony davis and ur good
I can't lie this was one of the best times in the NBA to watch basketball it was so many good teams!
22:14 - This one is on Indiana more than PG. George claimed that the "best power forward" in the league wanted to come to Indiana, however George claimed that Indiana wasn't ready to make the financial commitment. That was when PG realized he needed to leave the Pacers, I am not sure how accurate that statement is, however if it's true. PG wanting to leave the Pacers makes sense
i always thought he was referring to Paul Millsap in that interview, who obviously is far from the best power forward in the nba.
@@TruthOperator81 He said “best power forward” he never said a name. Some imply it was AD while others say it was Blake Griffin. It’s unknown who exactly he was talking about
@@Sai4651 He probably meant best power forward available at the time (Free Agency) which would have been Paul Millsap. If it was AD, his superstar presence might have helped sales and it would have been okay'd. Paul Millsap just came off an all star year but he isn't exactly the most marketable player. Trades for AD would have been an even monetary value swap so its most likely a free agent signing which Paul was. Blake Griffon has stated he wanted to retire a Clipper.
Wow I never knew Pacers initially drafted Kawhi right after drafting PG. That means they could have been teammates before joining the Clippers
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