Really love the way you broke this down, as a MS3 who is interested in everything, I feel like this video was a good starting point for me to begin reflecting.
Thank you for this movie. I especially appreciated the realistic tone with which you tackled this important subject. Well-done. Keep these great videos coming.
Most of the physicians I work with in Endo live on like 80K a year. They all live pretty humbly and then they take the rest of their 100K and invest it each year on stocks and local business. I know one who owns a few restraunts in town and then just pays from that spots revenue to have someone manage it for him. They all make lots more then the better paid residency because they make 3 or 4 Times what they do at the hospital because of their investment. Moral is that if you live like a normal upper middle class person and make your money work for you then you will be filthy rich no matter your speciality.
True buddy. Just end of my intern year in IM, planning to live like a resident at least a few years into being an attending. I can't even think of doing this all the way till 50. (forgive me.) I just wanna make sure I have adequate streams of finance coming in to feed my lifestyle and clear my debts (House/Car) and call it quits.
the financial advice was def something i think about as an ms2 now, i really lke pediatrics, but I'm def not blessed to have a lot of financial support going through med school...so its a lot to think about objectively.
My interests: clinical neurology Environment I wanna work in: inpatient and/ or outpatient neurology My limitations: anything related to surgery How much money: enough to be comfortable I know only neuro is going to make me happy, so I’d rather find a way to be successful in it. But I understand that not everyone got swept away by a specialty so looking at the whole picture is important! Great video 👏🏼👏🏼 (Also important to note that I’m an IMG. I’m glad I like neuro because it’s not the hardest for imgs to match and also my parents paid for my tuition in my home country).
I loveee neurosurgery but the only problem is the long hour duties and not very good neurosurgical departments in my city. Also the lack of female neurosurgeons makes me very scared that I won’t have alot of friends lol 😂😪
Man ! This was an epic con and a really helping one in my choice of profession . I personally picked up oncology since it has to have exponential growth in years to come with unhealthy lifestyles so on so forth and it has little to do with anatomy knowledge and its more on cellular and genetics level of science and research and I LOVE MYSELF SOME DOPEASS AND REAL RESEARCH! 😄
JUST DO WHAT YOU LIKE ! Simple all doctors make money. You will be able to pay any loan amount and be super comfortable with whatever you do. I have 500K in Debt.
Im gonna srart residency in a year what i've heard (for switzerland and germany) Diagnostic you can also do in private practice, the pay is higher then nearly all physicians. And even in hospital with many other radiologist you have not such a bad work life balance and dont need to be on call all the time. Interventional radiology gives sh*tloads of money, your also beating most of the surgeons. But I guess only in hospitals possible to do. But its not considered sexy haha🤣🤣🤣. Altough everithing "radioactive" sounds cool Edit: Limitations. I guess not beeing okay with feeling isolated and looking on a screen all the time🤣
May I require a video for specialities and subspecialties? I want to pick one but I cannot find all specialities in med. The websites are just showing me some of the specialities. And nearly none of the subspecialties though.
I really don't think urology is perceived as "cool" by ordinary people. Who the hell thinks urology is cool🤣??? Neurosurgery and cardiothoracic surgery for sure yes also plastic surgery, probably general surgery and orthopedics ( Ortho I think less for people outside the medical field). Anyway nice video 👍
Love your video and love your channel! One thing you didn't include though, IMG status - as a student at one of the Big 4 Caribbean schools, I'm worried that that will close a lot of doors. I hope I'm wrong, but personally, I'm definitely concerned about this and stealing myself for the day when being from a school outside of the US will really hamper my hopes and aspirations for picking a specialty. Otherwise, great video, thank you!
I was going to make a 5th thing to think about which would have been something like "How competitive am I?" But to be honest, this is so overdone, so I didn't feel like anybody needed to think about boards/grades/med school tiers any more than they already do. Obviously, being an IMG goes into the equation for you when it comes to being realistic about your specialty choice. But this video was intended to shine some light on the other important factors beyond just how good you did on boards or what medical school you went to
Great video amigo ! ER doc here ! STAY SAFE EVERYONE ! 🗽👍🚑 BUT !!!!! I politely disagree with the money part. All doctors make money ! Plain and simple. Any doctor will be able to live super comfortable and pay their loans in a reasonable amount of time. There have also been many studies that show that with a salary above 200K happiness does NOT improve, is not exponential ! I can tell you of many doctors who did Dermatology for the wrong reasons and were miserable and left the specialty and started a different field. 100% do what you like !!!!!!! Simple !!!!! If you want a specific specialty or the money then you wasted your time, there are specialties called investors, real state, stupid shiba inu, and floki inu, and others. OKAY I AM DONE !!!!
I love anesthesiology but I'm afraid if it's worth it all this year of studying and some midlevels take your job... Worldwide only in US nurse anesthetist can work individually by risking patient life for government's money
The one that provides mula, time off and chicks. Medical career is mostly dead, you will be working for large conglomerates…. Anyone who does not will be cut off of insurance access… ACOs no joke
My interest: Cardiology Mostly because cardio is the only speciality that puts a smile on my face. It's fun. Everything else feels like too much work tbh
just tossing out there that 500k in loans is like a couple years repayment of peds salary. or you can just do PSLF. No reason to pick a different specialty based on money. Every doctor will be a multimillionaire, definitely not something you can say for your average 55k a year citizen.
I really hope you gain some financial savvy in med school/residency because this is dead wrong. Many pediatricians start around 180k when looking for a job. After taxes, house costs, and other expenses you are most likely left with less than half your salary. You're looking at 5 years bare minimum on a peds salary. There is nothing wrong with money being a factor in picking a field. If your 1st choice is pediatrics and your 2nd is psychiatry w/ child fellowship, its not like you made a radical change in specialty just because of the salary boost.
@@0doublezero0 no, PSLF it's a couple years worth 100k net x2 years = 200k total repayment. But it would be less than that since you would start repayment in residency
@@thebeatles9 I'm referring to non-PSLF payments. If you do it either by PAYE or REPAYE and want to pay it off quick it will take you around 5 years (i.e. if you had 90-100k left over each year times that by 5 years, that 500k). Yes, the payments would be less here once you are an attending since you made some in residency. PSLF you have to work for 10 years in a non-profit. So your residency program could or couldn't count (there are some programs under a for-profit hospital or system). So you have to pick wisely when finding a program. Its not so much it being a couple years of payment (yes, I get what you mean by the amount $200k over 10 years), the payments will depend on the bare minimum you have to pay. However, this limits you in terms of what jobs you apply to. You will still have to work in a non-profit hospital system for 5-8 years to pay back that amount. You will be paid less versus going with a group practice. Now you can leave the hospital life after you completed PSLF, but you maybe looking at a lower salary with other opportunities than if you started with those opportunities from the get go. A group could start you at $280k once you made the switch, but if you were with them 10 years ago you would now be at $400k. At the end of the day yes, this is a massive amount of money compared to the 55k per year. However, once your making that amount, you'll still be thinking about how to maximize that even then. A lot of this stems from giving your family the best opportunities that you didn't have when you were growing up.
You're wrong about money. You can treat medicine as a job or a career. Having student loans is a self fulfilling prophecy. You wouldn't be half a million in debt if you never picked medicine. Finally, anyone with the drive, intelligence and maturity to delay gratification and slave away for 8 years before getting a grown up paycheck could EASILY have channeled that fortitude into a business, tech, or engineering and made way more money and much earlier. Medicine is the worst and most inefficient money making vehicle out there for if you factor in time spent training, effort, student loans and loss of your 20s/30s.
Really love the way you broke this down, as a MS3 who is interested in everything, I feel like this video was a good starting point for me to begin reflecting.
Oh my god Korean boy so cute
what did you pick?
@@Jimbo292 family medicine!
The finance part I'm glad someone brought it up thank you
Anybody who tells you not to think about money is either lying or a fool
@@DirtyMedicine
I must be a fool then and I'm proud of it 🤷♀️
@@brittophone6219 i am not
Me 3
@@DirtyMedicine lying, a fool, or just privileged* 👀
Thank you for this movie. I especially appreciated the realistic tone with which you tackled this important subject. Well-done. Keep these great videos coming.
best video on topic. every other video on TH-cam is an absolute waste of time. this video is 100 % authentic.
Most of the physicians I work with in Endo live on like 80K a year. They all live pretty humbly and then they take the rest of their 100K and invest it each year on stocks and local business. I know one who owns a few restraunts in town and then just pays from that spots revenue to have someone manage it for him. They all make lots more then the better paid residency because they make 3 or 4 Times what they do at the hospital because of their investment.
Moral is that if you live like a normal upper middle class person and make your money work for you then you will be filthy rich no matter your speciality.
Yep. "Live like a resident" comes to mind
True buddy.
Just end of my intern year in IM, planning to live like a resident at least a few years into being an attending.
I can't even think of doing this all the way till 50. (forgive me.)
I just wanna make sure I have adequate streams of finance coming in to feed my lifestyle and clear my debts (House/Car) and call it quits.
the financial advice was def something i think about as an ms2 now, i really lke pediatrics, but I'm def not blessed to have a lot of financial support going through med school...so its a lot to think about objectively.
I did Psychiatry for a while but found out i didn't like it, so switched into pediatrics best decision ever. Ped is lucrative where i am practicing.
My interests: clinical neurology
Environment I wanna work in: inpatient and/ or outpatient neurology
My limitations: anything related to surgery
How much money: enough to be comfortable
I know only neuro is going to make me happy, so I’d rather find a way to be successful in it. But I understand that not everyone got swept away by a specialty so looking at the whole picture is important! Great video 👏🏼👏🏼
(Also important to note that I’m an IMG. I’m glad I like neuro because it’s not the hardest for imgs to match and also my parents paid for my tuition in my home country).
What does IMG mean?
@@shahad9203 International Medical Graduate.
Neuro is not hard to match for imgs?
@@AhsanKhan1998 Neurosurgery is Neurology isnt
anything over 75k a year will be comfortable. Enjoy your medical career!
Thank you so much! This was so helpful.
- OMS-III going through a specialty identity crisis
It's just as important to know what you want to do as it is what you definitely won't do, but still leave some room for pleasant surprises.
Another question to ask yourself:
Rank the bodily fluids from most to least acceptable
Sweat, blood, tears, saliva, mucous, urine, pus, feces.
Blood, tears, mucous, saliva, pus, urine, sweat, feces
Tears, Saliva, Urine, Sweat, Mucus, Blood, Feces, Pus
feces, urine, mucus, pus, saliva, blood
Medical Student activities 💀😂😂
I dont have to choose,
My step 1 will do it :-P
Hey ! Dont forget that there is a bell curve of scores for any specialty. People go into neurosurgery with 225 and with 260 !
@@FacundoMD Hey thanks. But A few exceptions can't define the criteria.
Been waiting for this one!!!
i have exams next week and this came at the perfect time
And as always.....Radiology is in the Dark
I loveee neurosurgery but the only problem is the long hour duties and not very good neurosurgical departments in my city. Also the lack of female neurosurgeons makes me very scared that I won’t have alot of friends lol 😂😪
you should do a how to study for step 2ck!!
Thanks, I was studying when the notification popped up.
This was really helpful, thank you!
Man ! This was an epic con and a really helping one in my choice of profession . I personally picked up oncology since it has to have exponential growth in years to come with unhealthy lifestyles so on so forth and it has little to do with anatomy knowledge and its more on cellular and genetics level of science and research and I LOVE MYSELF SOME DOPEASS AND REAL RESEARCH! 😄
this is literally helpful...thanks
Love it! Great video and audio quality too
Do you think neurology is an "above average" specialty in regards to pay? I really like the field, but oof those loans :P
JUST DO WHAT YOU LIKE ! Simple all doctors make money. You will be able to pay any loan amount and be super comfortable with whatever you do. I have 500K in Debt.
no i would not say it's above average.
Great video by a great man🫂😇
thanks for the video!!
Really useful, thank you !
great video
9:20 Allergy place is not correct, it actually makes more than Rheumatology. It would be an above-average paying field.
Pretty useful video, but I'm an English Literature student; please tell me what to do. lol
Thank you sir!
I am just feeling lazy and this definitely motivates me. Thank you, Dirty Medicine.
what about rads?
such an honest and practical discussion. thanks for sharing
0:04 Well , there goes my break
This is an actually useful video.
you didn't mention diagnostic or interventional radiology on any slide so i'm wondering where that falls in terms of all four aspects??
Im gonna srart residency in a year what i've heard (for switzerland and germany)
Diagnostic you can also do in private practice, the pay is higher then nearly all physicians. And even in hospital with many other radiologist you have not such a bad work life balance and dont need to be on call all the time.
Interventional radiology gives sh*tloads of money, your also beating most of the surgeons. But I guess only in hospitals possible to do.
But its not considered sexy haha🤣🤣🤣. Altough everithing "radioactive" sounds cool
Edit:
Limitations. I guess not beeing okay with feeling isolated and looking on a screen all the time🤣
Interventional cardio ❤️🎭
Thank you for making this vid 🙂
Thank you 😇
May I require a video for specialities and subspecialties? I want to pick one but I cannot find all specialities in med. The websites are just showing me some of the specialities. And nearly none of the subspecialties though.
Disagree with the last bit. Healthcare is starting to pay more for primary care and slightly less for specialties!
lol, I don't know if rad/onc counts as prestigious currently. May change down the road but not looking good based on current stats.
Thank you ❤️
I really don't think urology is perceived as "cool" by ordinary people. Who the hell thinks urology is cool🤣??? Neurosurgery and cardiothoracic surgery for sure yes also plastic surgery, probably general surgery and orthopedics ( Ortho I think less for people outside the medical field). Anyway nice video 👍
As a neurosurgeon in Thailand, I do not earn a shitload of money.
Because you live in thailand
Love your video and love your channel! One thing you didn't include though, IMG status - as a student at one of the Big 4 Caribbean schools, I'm worried that that will close a lot of doors. I hope I'm wrong, but personally, I'm definitely concerned about this and stealing myself for the day when being from a school outside of the US will really hamper my hopes and aspirations for picking a specialty. Otherwise, great video, thank you!
Consider doing a fellowship at the program you want to match into.
Not all AMGs get into specialities they want. IMGs have it harder. But know that there's always a risk of not going into your dream residency.
I was going to make a 5th thing to think about which would have been something like "How competitive am I?" But to be honest, this is so overdone, so I didn't feel like anybody needed to think about boards/grades/med school tiers any more than they already do. Obviously, being an IMG goes into the equation for you when it comes to being realistic about your specialty choice. But this video was intended to shine some light on the other important factors beyond just how good you did on boards or what medical school you went to
Great video amigo ! ER doc here ! STAY SAFE EVERYONE ! 🗽👍🚑 BUT !!!!!
I politely disagree with the money part. All doctors make money ! Plain and simple. Any doctor will be able to live super comfortable and pay their loans in a reasonable amount of time. There have also been many studies that show that with a salary above 200K happiness does NOT improve, is not exponential ! I can tell you of many doctors who did Dermatology for the wrong reasons and were miserable and left the specialty and started a different field. 100% do what you like !!!!!!! Simple !!!!! If you want a specific specialty or the money then you wasted your time, there are specialties called investors, real state, stupid shiba inu, and floki inu, and others.
OKAY I AM DONE !!!!
Any specialty that does with computer science?
I love anesthesiology but I'm afraid if it's worth it all this year of studying and some midlevels take your job... Worldwide only in US nurse anesthetist can work individually by risking patient life for government's money
ENT for me...or maybe ophtalmology ..we'll see ♥
both awesome fields!
I have a problem in choosing my specialty, I am in internship year now
what did you end up choosing ?
My man didn’t say radiology one time in this video
❤️❤️❤️
Hey do you think you could make a video on TCA drugs??
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The one that provides mula, time off and chicks. Medical career is mostly dead, you will be working for large conglomerates…. Anyone who does not will be cut off of insurance access… ACOs no joke
timely!
My interest: Cardiology
Mostly because cardio is the only speciality that puts a smile on my face. It's fun. Everything else feels like too much work tbh
just tossing out there that 500k in loans is like a couple years repayment of peds salary. or you can just do PSLF. No reason to pick a different specialty based on money. Every doctor will be a multimillionaire, definitely not something you can say for your average 55k a year citizen.
I really hope you gain some financial savvy in med school/residency because this is dead wrong. Many pediatricians start around 180k when looking for a job. After taxes, house costs, and other expenses you are most likely left with less than half your salary. You're looking at 5 years bare minimum on a peds salary. There is nothing wrong with money being a factor in picking a field. If your 1st choice is pediatrics and your 2nd is psychiatry w/ child fellowship, its not like you made a radical change in specialty just because of the salary boost.
@@0doublezero0 no, PSLF it's a couple years worth 100k net x2 years = 200k total repayment. But it would be less than that since you would start repayment in residency
@@thebeatles9 I'm referring to non-PSLF payments. If you do it either by PAYE or REPAYE and want to pay it off quick it will take you around 5 years (i.e. if you had 90-100k left over each year times that by 5 years, that 500k). Yes, the payments would be less here once you are an attending since you made some in residency.
PSLF you have to work for 10 years in a non-profit. So your residency program could or couldn't count (there are some programs under a for-profit hospital or system). So you have to pick wisely when finding a program. Its not so much it being a couple years of payment (yes, I get what you mean by the amount $200k over 10 years), the payments will depend on the bare minimum you have to pay.
However, this limits you in terms of what jobs you apply to. You will still have to work in a non-profit hospital system for 5-8 years to pay back that amount. You will be paid less versus going with a group practice. Now you can leave the hospital life after you completed PSLF, but you maybe looking at a lower salary with other opportunities than if you started with those opportunities from the get go. A group could start you at $280k once you made the switch, but if you were with them 10 years ago you would now be at $400k.
At the end of the day yes, this is a massive amount of money compared to the 55k per year. However, once your making that amount, you'll still be thinking about how to maximize that even then. A lot of this stems from giving your family the best opportunities that you didn't have when you were growing up.
wheres plastics my guy
You're wrong about money. You can treat medicine as a job or a career. Having student loans is a self fulfilling prophecy. You wouldn't be half a million in debt if you never picked medicine. Finally, anyone with the drive, intelligence and maturity to delay gratification and slave away for 8 years before getting a grown up paycheck could EASILY have channeled that fortitude into a business, tech, or engineering and made way more money and much earlier. Medicine is the worst and most inefficient money making vehicle out there for if you factor in time spent training, effort, student loans and loss of your 20s/30s.
i nearly failed high school bio how tf did i end up here
damn
$ports medicine
First
Aaand that’s why I’m a PA student ;)