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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Why is Silksong Taking So Long?
Hollow Knight Silksong is a full fledged sequel to the original but it also features a completely different character that appeared in the first game, the hornet. Sure, Silksong has been in development in some form since 2017, when the team released Hollow Knight but there is just such a minuscule amount of concrete information about the game. Just looking at their website blog, the last official post was back in 2019, which was before the pandemic.
The game features a completely new world to explore with all new game mechanics thanks to a new character. Silksong also features crafting in some variety, as well as quests that will have you with hunting down rare beasts, ancient mysteries, and lost treasures. Once you finish the game, you will unlock a new mode called Silk Soul mode that puts a spin on the game with unique and challenging experiences according to their official description. At around 30-40 hours to complete the original, having a new game plus mode that drastically changes the mechanics of the game would provide deep value.
What most people forget is that Team Cherry, the South Australian developers behind Hollow Knight, who have only created one game so far are only a handful of people. At the start of the development the team was only three people and some other sources indicate that the team might be four now. With everything we know about the size and scope of SilkSong, there is good chance it doesn’t release in 2022.
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"Team cherry...has only created one game so far" man I know hungry knight is the face of team cherry but team cherry has actually made a second, lesser known game called hollow knight.
Ha. I think I have heard of Hollow Knight, but in all seriousness I just go by what Team Cherry says. On their website and on the Silksong trailer at 1:57 they say “second game by Team Cherry”. I assume since the previous projects weren’t really full games and we part of game jams they don’t count them themselves. Thanks for checking out the video
Wait what??? I always thought people were misspelling hungry as hollow! I didn’t realize hollow knight was areal game. Learn something new every day I guess…
Yeah it was for a game jam. Interesting to know absolutely but even Team Cherry considers Hollow Knight their first game according to their official website
@@VDGMS I thought Hungry Knight was before they were team cherry
edit: nope I'm wrong
Will silk song be an dlc or a standalone
Almost died of laughter when he said 2022 at the end.
It’s December 2023 now 💀
@@menacingrock750I think it will come out before GTA6 at least
half life three coming out before silksong
@@akospapanitz8390
@akospapanitz8390 No, gta6 has a release date, silk song only has a reveal trailer all the back in 2019. We all pray it comes out next year but we can only hope....
Silksong to be out soon would be amazing, but just remember, the longer team cherry takes the more polished the game will (hopefully) be
“There’s a good chance it doesn’t release in 2022”
*cries in 2024*
*Sits down next to you and cries in 2024*
Joins the both of you and cries in 2024
Sits on the ground next to all of you and cries
I cannot wait for when 2026 hits and people come back here to update the counter
first time? im a gd player so i know how it feels waiting so long for something revolutionary
I'd say there is a slight chance it doesn't release in 2022.
I’m still holding out hope 🤞
i'd say there is a slight change it won't ever release. silksong is the friends we make along the way
You know that the waiting has been eternal when TH-cam recommends you this short three times in 2 years.
Holy shit this was made 2 years ago, that last line has me lost for words
I heard Silksong so I came running
Yay, Relyea
@@VDGMS coming in a year 🥳
Same lol
Hi Relyea hope you will make silksong get through also
Coming hopefully in like late June 2023
And now it’s 2024 but I still want Team Cherry to take their time with this
Id say its pretty nuch done by now
I agree! I’d love for it to come out soon, but I would really love to see it be a game that is released with all its bits and bobs sorted out. It would suck to see it come out but have it not be its best form that the devs are working so hard to make it be
Not only hard and timeconsuming, team cherry probably want to make it right a second time with silksong, just like with hollow knight so that it is a successful continuation of the saga. We all know, what rushed and unfinished games can do to the crowd so be patient. We sureky will get the game in time, perfectly finished and on top of that an enjoyable expierience
Exactly. I tried to highlight the major reasons why it’s taking so long. Thanks for checking out the video and the well thought out comment.
@@VDGMS only true gamers, which appreciate the whole effort behind such delicate art should also have the patience for a next title. If it happens is in the end up to the programmers themselves and the funding for it. To be honest, i bought an other title in antizipation to get some good content (gt7) but was utterly disappointed of the results. Up to that point i was actually quite eager to play that game, but its the first time in my long gaminghistory, that i got so deeply disappointed. I dont think that this will happen with silksong, since it is so carefully developed. Its disgusting to see people playing games in a rush and craving instantly for more content. We all know all to well how that ends wish rushed development ... ( fallout 76 as an example)
@@Kinsanth_ can we forget about security breach?
@@bobebobo2643 wait there's a game called security breach... that sounds dumb and rushed with alot of bugs
3 years isn't that long
I know people are used to near yearly game release now but that's really really hard to do and leads to a lack of innovation
(Call of duty, assassins creed ect)
2022? Oh these poor bastards from the past. They have no idea what they're in for.
Answer: it's not. It's been like 3 years. Anybody who thinks silksong is taking too long doesn't understand how hard and time consuming game design is, especially with only a small handful of devs.
Edit: I'm not saying that we don't have a reason to be frustrated. They definitely should be giving us more updates, but we at least shouldn't be mad at the actual amount of time it's taking.
True, it's not taking too long at all
First off: it’s been 4 years
Second off: the game was at least partially done when it was shown off, particularly considering that the only substantial update on the game, which was released 3 years ago, said that they’d already exceeded their estimate on how many enemies would be in the game.
Third off: nothing is stopping them from hiring help for their new game.
Fourth off: game development is hard, but not all consuming. At the rate they are clearly working, considering their lack of communication, you’d expect the game to be out sooner.
Fifth off: silk song fans don’t even want the game to be out now(not that we’d mind), we just want news, or a development update, or a release date, or any kind of confirmation that the game isn’t stuck in development hell, or to be told it’s in development hell if it is.
Edit: I’m not sure why everyone is responding to me… I’m not the only person making these points… but ok. Again, the biggest problem is lack of communication. It’s one thing to delay a game repeatedly. It’s another to never give a deadline and go radio silent for years.
We did get news from team cherry, don't worry, the game isn't stuck. I'm guessing you just didn't notice.
@@lunarsystem101 ...Which they did. A couple weeks ago only, Team Cherry literally said during an interview, where they were congradulated for winning the award of most anticipated game of 2021, that it ''can't be too much longer.''
@@lunarsystem101 We learned that this would be a new game instead of a dlc 3 and a half year ago...
Their biggest mistake was announcing it so early,shouldve done it later so we didnt have to wait so long,we wouldnt be impatient if we didnt even know it was happening
It was announced as part of the original Kickstarter. As a stretch goal.
In hindsight that’s the best, but they still had a dlc to provide to backers, this ended up turning into silksong, so they wanted to let backers know they didn’t forget about them, but the Nintendo treehouse was probably way too early if there wasn’t going to be anything after that
@@RaptieFeathersnot their finest play should have let us stew.
Tbf its only been painful waiting because they teased to lauch it 3 years ago and released a demo. I understand it must have been a great choice to delay it and make it perfect. Its more that the transition from highly active feedback to painfully silent is what keeps anxiety high
Yeah I agree fully with you. They announced its been in development since 2017 but apparently it keeps growing in scope. There are enough games to play that there is no rush for it. Thanks for checking out the video and the well thought out comment.
@@VDGMS it got revealed in 2019
Yall waiting for a sequel? Imagine geometry dash
The main reason for this is because they are used to marketing to a small market, which you have to do from the start of development basically when you are a small company. They never learnt how to market to a audience the size hollow knight brought in.
Tbh i think it shouldve been anounced that they were making a new game when they were atleast close to finishing. I know many people will not agree with me beacuse they think its better to know than to not. But sometimes, surprises are better. Think about it, people now think that silksong is never releasing because it takes too long, but if they wouldve said it this year, everyone would be so hyped that they're finally making a second game. And in our eyes, it wouldnt take long. But here we are. Dissapointed because people have lost hope.
Waiting for Silksong is the *TRUE* Path of Pain.
I’m super excited for silksong! I’m glad that team cherry is taking their time to make the game as great as we know it will be
Yup. I put about 40 hours into Hollow Knight on Switch. I think people forget or don’t know Team Cherry is only a handful of people
Yeah, I had that in my long form video but squeezing everything under a minute, I had to cut out the part with the specific amount of people. Crazy though because the game feels like a lot more people worked on it.
@@VDGMS If you only played hollow knight for 40 hours you probably have not beaten the radience
Yup i 100% Hollow Knight on PS4 and its one of my favorite experiences quite sometime.
A delayed game will eventually be good, but a rushed game will forever be bad.
-shigeru miyamoto
This game can take as long as it needs but we need more communication with the devs
Remember, it took a long time for hollow knight to release, too. Team Cherry doesn't, and can't, make this stuff overnight. I will admit tho, a small note from the devs saying they're OK would be nice.
Apparently a recent interview they mentioned development. People did put money into this game specifically years ago so I feel like they should've gotten some news at least yearly. I Get it's their own choice to support an unreleased game, but it'd be considerate to just say something.
It took 3 years from when it was announced. Which is as much as we've waited for silksong
@@cheese_vviz Silksong is a bigger game
@@thefrogggy100Bigger, but based on a complete and tested game. While it's not technically a DLC, the development essential is the same as a DLC, just with more content. You can't discount how significant time savings comes from working from a complete game/engine...
its a bigger game, and develpment for these kind of things with a small team usually take at least 5. usually 7.@@cheese_vviz
“Good chance it won’t be released in 2022” me watching this halfway through 2023 knowing full well it aint gonna be here for a while
Everyone needs to stop putting pressure on Team Cherry and wait assured we will get another quality product, don't care how long it takes
@Gobi the sandwing Exactly, we did get at some point "its being made" but there is absolutely no news from them
@@azalakhir918 But do we really need anything else? It's being made, be patient. Case and point.
We don't need weekly dev vlogs, occasional tweets, demos and E3 level exposition from 2 - 3 guys making a game.
We aren't "putting pressure" on them. It's not unreasonable to start to be irritated about a game that has admittedly been in development since 2017 and announced officially in 2019...that's 5 years in development and over 3 since it was announced...maybe they need to stop trying to make it so ridiculously big that it just keeps prolonging it. Eventually you have to settle on the world design and finish it...you could conceivably add on infinitely at this rate. Sorry but it's starting to be a bit ridiculous, and truthfully I lost all hype over it over a year ago. There is a such thing as prolonging something TOO long. Ska studios released salt and sacrifice in a 5 year time frame, and that's ONE person working on it....team cherry is what 3-5 people. There's no excuse for a 2D metroidvania to take that long to develop. They are gonna make it so big that it's impossible to remember everything, and actually wind up hurting the game more than anything
@@banilo1022 I mean sure but would a occasional update really hurt? When you're being silent for that long it can worry some people about the state of development for the game.
Hollow knight was a masterpiece, the team cherry crew is wonderful at their job and I'm sure once the wait is over, silksong will be just as amazing if not better.
maybe silksong was the friends we made along the way
Tbh, I feel the wait for silksong would be much easier if they just updated more frequently. Something as simple as a screenshot would be more than enough to quell the fanbase .
I feel like they don’t want to reveal much so the experience will be fresh for everyone playing, but even development updates would be nice.
Yea also showing the demo way later than they did demos typically is a coming soon type thing but it has Ben like 3-4 years since that
This lack of information makes the release blow up, and people will be starving for this new game
@@jayzazel Doesn't even have to be Screenshots, just a few words here and there would probably satisfy the majority.
True, I literally forgot about silksong just because they haven't said anything. Even just them telling us there working on the game or a progress log would be nice.
I'm honestly really glad it's taking a "long time", that means they're putting care into it and I feel it will be worth playing
Unless it comes out like a secuirty breach. Take 5 years, come out full of bugs and become a dead game in a few months except for people who can't admit the game is bad
Imagine creating one game ever and it’s flawless.
You can definitely imagine the pressure of trying to top or surpass it. The longer the wait for the game to release the even higher expectation it will consume.
Hk is absolutely not flawless but still very good
Guys I come from 2032, that's it, that's the year when they will announce the release delay date!! 💀
restating that the dev team is so small definitely puts the scope and timeline of development into perspective. its incredibly easy to just fall into the mindset that the TC are taking "too long" to finish the game due to the fact that weve seen other games by triple a companies with massive teams go through their entire development cycle in the time silksong has been in development
I think if they didn’t reveal it as early as they did most people wouldn’t constantly be frustrated. The team is tiny though. Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. Happy gaming!
and a lot of those triple a games come out unfinished even with their mammoth teams 😅
They could always hire more devs, their are probably tonnes of talented artists in south Australia jumping at the opportunity to work with them. Their last game was massively succesful so they have the money
GTA 6: you too?
Silksong: yea...
I'd like to play the game before I die in a nuclear holocaust, famine or civil unrest.
At this rate we might die in the robot uprising of 2054
Outlook not so good
@@arobotwithepilepsie6053 It's getting even worse, so probably 2040 at this rate.
To be fair, Team Cherry is trying to top a masterpiece right now. I don’t mind the wait since I’m tired of games being buggy and unfinished on release.
Team cherry said that "it can't be too long, surely"
Good chance it doesnt release for the next 2½ years bro, its 2024, and i got recomended this 😂
oh my god, the movement looks so beautiful. Exactly what I would want in a game using her character.
I can't wait
Just watching this video I learned you can focus mid air
It's a charm ig
I feel like team cherry should try hiring people to help them along with thr development. But I mean, that’s just my thought
Yeah maybe. It’s possible since the game might feel like their baby, they might not trust others on it as much
I think maybe maybe not, they'd have to be super selective
I've read (I think on their blog) that they're not hiring people bc they prefer to keep their team small.
Not really, we need to understand we are dealing with humans, the little surprise boxes that think and act in completely unique ways.
It's like that little puzzle:
"It takes 2 hours for 5 people to dig a 5 meter deep hole, how many hours would it take for 10 people to dig the exact same hole?"
Keeping a small team makes it certain that they have full control over development and creative vision, altough it takes more time, they are not paid by hour or by quantity, but quality, as a better game will be sold more
I’d rather a game take a lifetime and be a fun and polished legendary game than get a half baked pile of garbage
'cough Cyberpunk cough'
theres a good chance the game doesnt release in 2024
I think people need to remember team cherry consists of three people and members they temporarily hire for specific stuff
Actually i could be considered as a lucky person in this sense, since i just started the game a few days ago and wandered around enjoying the aesthetics. Now, that i managed to beat Hornet, I am able to explore all the areas can offer the game, limited by my subpar boss-fighting abilities ;) Happy (re-)playing the game and the soundtrack aa well!
Why is yt recommending me this like it's just trying to get my gopes up and just tear them right back down 😭
The algorythm is sadistic! 2023 comes to a closes and there is no information so far. At this point the game might never be finished...
... or it will be the best game ever 😎🤘
If we sacrificed mossbag as planned, we would have the game already
No matter how long it takes I will be here waiting patiently for that time and it will be amazing when it arrives
Getting to the end of this video and hearing '2022' bruh time passes too fast.
Anyway, here's to another month of seething and coping and being impatient despite all this knowledge. The longer it takes, the better it becomes.
Everyone needs to relax and let these guys finish their masterpiece.
The issue is that because they only released one game to a MASSIVE success, they have an insane amount of pressure to make sure that this game is just as good at minimum.
the wait wouldn’t even be that bad if they at least gave us yearly news/updates
And 2 years later STILL NOTHING!!! I mean we're getting metroid prime 4 before this
opened this up only to see i had already seen it, liked it, and forgot about it...
sighhhh
(edit: typo)
Thanks for seeing it again. 😂
Maybe the true Silksong was the friends we made along the way
People keep forgetting that Hollow knight is a very dense and vast game with a lot of details and making another game like that while being composed of a small team of developers, its quite obvious that it would take a very long time to make a high quality game.
You are very right. Many people don’t understand that good things take time.
I got straight up JUMPSCARED hearing 2022, legit thought this was no more than a few months ago
Team cherry is like three guys. Anyone that expects them to put out a game of this size and quality quickly is crazy. I respect them for now going and getting a bunch of nobodies to work on it too. They no good things take hard work and a lot of time. I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait
Love Team Cherry’s work, I hope they’re able to expand their studio in the near future
they probably finished the game a year or years ago but have added like 3 DLCS worth of content, etc etc. this game is going to be MASSIVE!
Not only is team cherry a small group of Devs but with what we see in hollow Knight and in trailers for silksong, the game is going to be filed with absolutely stunning artwork which in itself takes a lot of time + the animating of said arc and implementation into gameplay. Hollow Knight was filled with little details and amazing story and background lore which most likely means they're going to try and do the same within silksong and improve upon it too. With covid most likely hindering development and many other things that can come up especially with the small team will delay the development time.
I'm glad they haven't given us and definitive release dates this far allowing them to put as much time and effort they can into perfecting and finalising the game without the constraint of a release date, we did get a release window but it seems to have been an estimate and most likely incorrect. I think we'll get a date when the team believes the game is finished which is the best time for them to do so, as much as I'm impatient and want it to come out soon I am willing to wait if it means silksong will be as good as they want to make it.
Well said
To everyone saying they revealed it too early, please bear in mind that Hollow Knight was originally supposed to have a separate Hornet campaign, and that campaign grew in scope so much that Team Cherry decided to make it a sequel instead. If they hadn't revealed Silksong we'd have Kickstarter backers frothing over Team Cherry not releasing the promised Hornet campaign, so they were caught between a rock and a hard place. When the choice is between hyping people too early or disappointing them and crushing your brand's reputation, the choice is obvious.
Yea it's crazy how much the scope of the project grew. I'm confident it will be as amazing as HK was but it's hard not to be anxious when it comes to getting just pure radio silence from the devs.
I'm just hoping we dont end up with either a cyberpunk or Cube World style incident.
I have to assume you have seen the Nintendo Treehouse demo. I can’t count how many times I have watched it. The game looks as good as if not better than the original.
he explaining why this is taking so long
me watching this in 2024 :(
It's 2024 now, hope it's not abandoned and they decided to just stfu to not overly excite the public and end up needing to rush it or deal with harassment
Damn it’s upsetting that we aren’t going to see the little knight or the other vessels anymore in this new game… or will we???
Yup, it’s almost 2024 now 😢
Oh damn we’re half way through 2024 I didn’t know when this came out
hollow knight silksong is taking so long because Mossbag found out the whole story with the info teamcherry released, And they were like: shit, we need to change the whole story because they already found out
Him: good chance it won't release in 2022
Me: still waiting in 2024
2 years later
"Good chance it doesent release in 2022". You couldn't have been more right, I'm starting to doubt it'll be out in 2023
😐
It has happened
I’m still excited for this game, but the more time passes, the more I’m worried some of the cool stuff we were originally shown is gonna get cut
The whole ordeal with SolkSong makes me glad I just played Hollow Knigjt for the first time in October. Couldn’t imagine being one of the poor saps waiting 6 freaking years for the next one…
As long as this game comes out in my life span I will always repeat this saying "Let them cook"
I just don't care if it releases this year or in 2026, but I just want to know something, just show a trailer to confirm you're alive Team Cherry
Your wishes were immediately answered lol
“Might not be finished by 2022”
*cries in 2024*
2924 here. It’s been 107 years since TC announced Silksong. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the game isn’t expected to finish till 3159
I hope they take all the time they need to create that masterpiece!
They are, no doubt, SUPER self critical and I respect that immensely. Team Cherry and Fromsoft, I trust their judgments without question. Although im anxious to play it, the pressure they must feel as the game makers is off the charts. Hollow Knight and all its DLCs were PERFECT.
You dont rush a perfect score
I do wish Team Cherry would be more transparent about the state of Silksong. Atleast some information regarding where in development Team Cherry is with the game. That would be way better than being left in the dark about the game.
"Take your time to do your best, no matter how long it takes, make it right and nice"
I hope it takes a long time so when it does release it is as good as possible
It's taking so long because... YOU DON'T RUSH PERFECTION
I would rather have the game be good than get here now. My dear Hornet deserves the best, and I will wait as long as it takes for her to get it.
I’m just happy they aren’t rushing it
Yeah, I’m excited to see the final result🎉
sometimes i forget team cherry is a small group of talented people instead of a AAA company
Honestly I think its taking so much longer because of how much more intricate it is going to be than HK, that means movement, enemy attacks, bosses, puzzles, and charms to make enough of a variety in gameplay to matter.
They are also a small team and I am willing to wait as long as it takes because of how good Hollow Knight is
Hi 2024 😂!
its the end of 2023 and we still waitnig
It should be taken as a positive thing that Silksong is taking a while to be published as Team Cherry wants to have it in high quality and polished. And if they rushed it, it would turn out pretty bad and won't meet to everyone's expectations.
i know Silksong is taking a long time but then i remember Team Cherry gave us 80 hours of gameplay, all of the DLC content, and unmet stretch goals for just 20 bucks
so i can wait
Cmon guys, hollow knight already in its self took several years, why would the bigger sequel take less?
It will most definitely be worth the wait
We'd be fine with it taking a long time we just want a update every now and then
Once this game finally releases it’s probably gonna be a GOTY contender
You know an indie game gonna be good when it takes 7 years
Yandere simulator
Honestly the fact an indi company is able to produce such a groundbreaking game as Hollow Knight so quickly, and is now producing a sequel in only around five years is impressive.
As someone living in 2023, i dissagree about there being a low chance of it releasing in 2022
Silksong can take as long as it needs. Team Cherry already gave us one of the best metroidvanias I've ever played + its dlc for $15, I trust them
Bro it ain’t even out in 2024
Really funny that it's been a year and a half since this, and still no news...
I can confirm it dod not release in 2022.
should release late this year or early next year, genuinely. and yes it is literally like 3 people so pls stop *bugging* them- LET THEM TAKE THEIR TIME TO MAKE A NON BUGGY GAME WITH LOTS OF CONTENT BEFORE U GET SOMTHING THAT FEELS LIKE A DEMO AND 30 DLCS
May 22 2024
@@angelpr2477 wait it has a release date now?
Wild this pops up in my recommended a year later
"Not releasing in 2022" *laugh/cry in November 2023*
That last line is hilarious
it's 2024 now
Honestly, as long as the final product is fun and packed with gameplay and replayability, i wont complain
Everyone: they shouldn’t have released a trailer and then made us wait like 3 years
Me, a Deltarune fan: ha, child’s play
"Child's play" you got the second chapter after TWO years, not 3, and still had the first chapter.
I would say Deltarune fans had it a lot easier