When the Paris Climate Agreement was agreed upon, I wrote that there was no possibility that the global average temperature would be held to 2.0 C or less above the pre-industrial temperature. I stand by that. The changes that are required are substantial and most people aren't willing to do what is necessary and governments aren't going to do what is necessary. The Copernicus Climate Service October 2024 report came out yesterday and based upon their report, Oct. 2024 was 1.65 C above the pre-industrial average temperature. We're supposed to be moving into a La Nina and it's not apparent based upon the Oct. global average temperature.
Let’s be cynical: if Donald Trump plunges the American economy in a deep recession, and other countries with it, the CO2 reduction may be exceeding our expectations. Not the most favorite scenario, but certainly one that could have a positive impact on the climate.
Given the rate of warming, due to warming in the pipeline, will continue at the current rate for at least a decade, assuming feedback doesn't take over, a recession may make things worse : when capitalists are broke, they quit spending, R & D, and implementation, would all fall. The process of moving off FF would likely stall.
Rachel, this reminds me of the maxim that a man does not realize the value of water until the well goes dry. Emily is hilarious. In these times, maybe what we need is more laughter.
Trump got the same number of votes as last time, Harris got 15m fewer. It was a problem of turnout, the same people voted for him so it’s bit a flip! It’s apathy
It’s a complete waste of time arguing over who’s in the white house. Our planet’s going down and there’s nothing any politicians can do about it. They believe that they’re in control but they’re not
No apathy, just disgust with the Genocide and sick of the lies. The whole thing was a repeat of 2016 when the rank and file selected Bernie Sanders and the party elite shoved Hillary down our throats....with the same results.
The Democrats needed Bernie. Bernie has been hoping for the past 4 years, his friend, Biden, would back him, the way Obama backed Hilary. Had Biden backed Bernie, he likely would have won. Part of the reason is Trump is afraid of Bernie : Trump noted Bernie drew much bigger crowds than him.
25 million democratic party voters didn't vote this election. Maybe not having a primary and arming a genocide war a problem. Not the climate policies of both parties.
EXACTLY - I have seen the results on Wikipedia and Trumps vote was almost 1 million LESS than 2020 but the Democrat vote was over 12 million LESS than 2020. That's 13 million people who felt to bad about the "most important election of our lives" the opted to NOT vote. You are 100% right this is about 2 parties with NOTHING to offer millions of people other than he's your candidate now vote for them or you're a horrible failure of a human being. I'm Australian and we are facing the same problem in a few months. Our main parties have almost NOTHING to offer other than political jargons and vacant promises. This is NOT just an American problem. Its being played out in various forms across the developed world.
@@MattAngiono That is the most frightening aspect : no resistance to the Corporate owned Democrats and Republicans whatever. The US now is a country where (a) The President is owned by the corporates (b) The Supreme court is owned by the corporates (c) Over 90% of the Congress is owned by the corporates The US, united states, should change their name to UC, United Corporates.
I'm Alright Jack" ============= The human condition means that most ordinary people won't change their habits of a lifetime until such time that their experiential circumstances change or are impacted for the worse. The trigger point for change is pain, and lots of it.
@@NoMoreVoxPops the trigger point is the end of oil. Stop believing solar panels and wind turbines are going to save us. Or plugging your electric car into a power grid that's ran by fossil fuels.
Ordinary people will never change, wake up. They will blame the climate on some kind of conspiracy involving the government controlling the weather or that god is punishing them for allowing gays to marry. Majority of people are ignorant morons and that's the main problem with the world. That's why the world is in crisis.
@@michaeledwards2251 It should, yes but as I say "experiential circumstances". Clearly not enough direct impact on enough people in order to create change. It's an inconvenient truth but part of being human. The pain will come, eventually.
I think the democratic party would do a lot better if they did take a strong stance on issues like climate change instead of just paying lip service to them and then pushing policies that go in other directions
Depends on what the goal of the democratic party is. They have done a perfect job at making sure there is no lane for anyone who would challenge the status quo in the usa
The democrats didn't lose this election. The republicans won, in sweeping fashion. What has happened is the voting public has rejected the Enlightenment and several hundred years of liberal democracy, without having a sense of a decent replacement.
The really sad bit is that emissions from forest fires & other non fossil fuel sources has already overtaken the fossil fuel emissions from orphan wells etc. Especially with Canadian sources. The numbers aren't good.
Everyone needs to email Republican representatives to demand LNG terminals are shut down or a moratorium is enforced so that the gas only helps build our economy.
@@naciremastithanks for showing how you don't understand the problem at all. We're going to a very different direction than what an ice age looks like, troll
@@FelipeKana1 humanity has been around for less than 300k years. Without oil we wouldn't be here. Once it's gone, the world will rejuvenate itself. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Oils the reason you eat any food you buy ina store. Oils the reason you have medical care and pharmaceuticals. Oils the reason you can plus in your electric car and charge it. Ice ages come and go.
That was great, thank you. Good that we can laugh in the face of all this, that is a very good thing for our collective sanity. Makes me wonder if we won't address climate problems until we get economics out of the way and that is hard because the web of dependencies connected to fossil fuels is so vast, beyond climate change as you pointed out. Oil touches everything, makes everything, powers everything and is a chemical feedstock for everything. Decoupling from that is terrifying for almost everyone in business dependent on it. Fears about peak oil going back 20 years or so could have shifted our trajectory back then, and many times before that. Sagan warned congress about the greenhouse effect in the 70s, nobody listened, we're reaping that now so it's a cascade of black swan events in waiting at this point. Renewables will get us halfway there. They won't replace oil as a feedstock for industry so the answer is to make less things. Naturally that is counter to the growth mantra the economy demands so the most vicious and climate blind corporations may fight for the spoils. Or we can change. As consumers. By making more choices that are aligned with a better world and a better future. That runs deeper than spending less money or giving up the car a few days a week, it's a change in mindset, in beliefs, in futures. Personally I don't think we'll get very far, until we realise that as a species, if we don't start evolving our consciousness, individually and collectively, we are fucked. Thankfully I also think that people are waking up rapidly and that a secular spiritual revolution is what we need to enable tackling our planetary predicament. Sending you guys a ton of reiki 🙌
"until we realise that as a species, if we don't start evolving our consciousness, individually and collectively, we are fucked." The only way for our "consciousness" to evolve is for the species as a whole to go through a very narrow evolutionary bottleneck in the coming cataclism that will reduce our population to 0.1% its current size or less, with survivors hopefully carrying genes enabling them not to make the same mistake again - of course, in a drastically changed environment.
I wonder if the authoritarian shift in democracies IS climate adaptation. Maybe we don’t give voters enough credit. They understand the climate issue, they see that mitigation is struggling - at best. Meanwhile, climate refugees are flooding in, complex trade is breaking down, fossil still has the power, so voters bristle up and go brute. Mitigation is not the only policy response to the climate crisis. Unprecedented international cooperation is not very likely. Defensive adaptation and prioritizing basics over ethical luxuries sure seems to describe what is happening. Societies are moving onto war footing and making difficult choices. I hope there is something wrong with this theory, but I dont see it yet.
The people who voted one way or another weren't voting about the climate. Inflation helped get Trump over the line. The other thing to consider is western democracy has been hollowed out by the financial elites in the last 40 years . Plutocratic duopolies masquerading as democracies. Empty prayer wheels.
Yes , eco facism on state authoritarian n dictatorship vs eco feminism based on activism n local communities. From Indonesia, I m an eco feminist and I perceive the whole earth as our home. Everyone of u will be welcomed in my house.
Exactly. The energy that goes into producing and installing solar panels and wind turbines, not forgetting the recycling of said materials is barely offset by the “ free” energy generated by said sources. It is all about power and control, not stopping climate change, which will change regardless of human activity. In the past the temperature was 10+c higher than it is today. The planet flourished.
@@matthewm9261 That's absolutely right. All these conversations are becoming so repetitive and absolutely zero progress is being made so maybe it's time to try something else or just move on and accept reality? There will be no transition. All renewables will do is add a tiny amount of electric energy to our enormous pile. They will not lead to us voluntarily using less fossil fuels.
The talk of Trump staying on after 4 years is a beat up (down). In fact, there is a big chance he will not last 4 years, with Vance taking over, which will not necessarily be any better.
We, here in the US, are seriously wondering how this possibly happened. He did no campaigning (or very little). People are questioning the results. Cannot be possible and if it is true I don't want to live in a country filled with really really stupid people.
Ha ha you are in a country and world filled with "stupid people" Learn this - Things you can't have without oil/diesel & coal: steel; aluminum; copper; concrete; electronics; plastic; tires; etc Civilization (any) is not sustainable in any way shape or form. US citizens are so brainwashed and unthinking they by into this two party crap and those like you think there is some kind of overt difference between two clowns like "kamala / biden" and "trump". i would not let either of these idiots drive my car or walk my dog.
@@kathyfaulk710 you're more than welcome to leave. And Trump campaigned for two years, not 108 days. He won his parties nomination, Kamala didn't participate in the Democratic National Convention. So tell me, who's questioning the results?
@@kathyfaulk710 the thing is, he already had 4 years, and she was part of the last 4 years. Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? I bet not.
its not funny...not once it sets in that a hunter gather lifestyle would be easier than modernity...if the land wasnt poisoned...its a salted earth policy.
TBH -- slept through most of this, not because you're boring but because my brain just can't handle more info right now and sleeping for sanity kicks in. Writing from Bolivia where the heart of our equivalent of your Yellowstone, but far more biodiverse, our Madidi National Park, is sustaining raging mega fires. This year alone we've lost another 7, some say 10+ million hectares of grasslands, wetlands, and some of the most biodiverse forests, including ancient primary forests, on earth. Billions of sentient beings and millions of mammals dead. Far too many humans are far too out of touch with reality. All who get it need to pull together asap ...
Here in rural BC 🍁 they voted in a con climate denier. The lakes are polluted with sewage, the wetlands turned into scrubland, the old forests clearcut, wildfires burn hundreds of houses or businesses, and billions of tax money is being poured into making the highway into a freeway. Car-Culture consumerism reigns supreme with the sick suburban sprawl mentality here. Sad, l see no hope for a better future. Sorry to hear of your losses there in South America. It appears to be a fascist reactionary global crisis.
@larrypilcher3791 Truly sorry to hear. In earlier, more innocent years i, and probably many in Latin America, imagined Canada to be an environmental haven, even a beacon. Now i know better -- but did not imagine it was that bad. Lovers of life, nature, and humanity -- biophiles & ecologists around the world -- need to come together.
Great episode Rachel, thanks. It's good to laugh in the face of such adversity and I found myself laughing along with your gallows humour. It did me the world of good. But hey, in the cold light of day, we're f****d aren't we? The only slight hope I have is that the shock of a second Trump adminstration (and its dire implications for global climate action) might galvanise the rest of the world to take firm action in the knowledge that there is unlikely to be leadership on the climate crisis from the US for the next 4 crucial years, possibly more. That said, I think it's unlikely. I've lived through too many false dawns to build my hopes around a political tipping point. Aint gonna happen. I've found myself turning into a doomer, even a prepper. I'm increasingly thinking about the need to take personal responsibility for my own survival and that of my family. My hopes for global action have disintegrated, so all that's left for me is making sure my family have a lifeboat, because, God knows, we're going to need lifeboats soon.
Unlikely to be that lucky. Too much of the Eastern Seaboard infrastructure is going to be submerged this century. The rating of the infrastructure, general, some parts are worse, is D+.
I think for climate it is just marginally important if Trump will leave office in 4 years or not. There are the voters and they are not going away. So after Trump there are still loads of other similar people ready to carry on. So let's plan for +2° or possibly more probable +2.5° if not in our lifetime, then in the lifetime of our grandchildren. Our grandchildren who are growing up right now need a special education on how to survive the harsh conditions they will face. Not only the outer conditions but also the social impact of 1 or 2 billion people that will migrate from less habitable reagions to more habitable ones that are densly populated already.
It will take a lot of fighting for there to be legit votes in 4 years... "strongmen" are not known to give up power. Besides, he's just the Trojan horse for the corporate 0lig.arc.hs. They wrote Project 2025 because they saw how dumb and incompetent he and his first Presidency team were, and they don't want the useful idiots to fumble around and lose the coup the second time around!
First of all great podcast! Thank you both. I think the real reason majority of people in the US aren’t doing anything to act on the climate crisis is because somewhere deep down inside, they understand what it means to their fossil-fueled lifestyles if they acknowledge that it IS a crisis. It means a low energy future. No more flying off to meet a friend in New York (or Paris!) for a weekend or running their huge motor boat around some lake in northern Wisconsin. It would mean eating less meat, consuming less fast fashion, less plastic junk, etc. At the very heart of all of this is that most Americans are enjoying their consumerism and they don’t wanna let go of it. Not ANY of it. Over the past decades they have seen their friends, family, neighbors flying all over the place, driving all over the place, buying bigger TV’s, bigger cars, bigger houses. And they want those things too! They do not see what’s coming in the horrors of real food shortages, real water shortages as the weather turns into nightmares of climate catastrophes, one after the other- which honestly we (in the US) have all participated in fueling. It’s a train wreck coming and they don’t see it because they’re blinded by the bright lights. I’m not sure how we go about taking away the future that they have envisioned for themselves and their children, but that future is in jeopardy. Who will tell them?
When President Carter tried gentle restraint to achieve energy reduction, he got thrown out for a man, Reagan, who put hospital mental patients on the street for a quick buck, and started the energy splurge. Given a choice between splurge, and a future, they chose splurge. President Carter told them. They made their choice and haven't regretted a moment of the splurge. (When asked, they say he was lecturing, meaning reminding people the world is real. )
Thank you!! This was so helpful. I live in North Carolina. Emily is very funny and informative at the same time. I am a Chemist, Doomer, Teckie. I own 2 EVs, one ICE car and Cryto currency. I believe hatred of women and women's own institutionalized self-hatred added significantly to this election outcome.
From Indonesia, the way I see it s just common sense over facts. A half of american mostly white women elected rapist, lunatic, misogynist with bizarre policy, over a remarkable asian black woman who is supposed to be perfect. You see, half american are idiot ignorant choosing between decency and lunatic.
Practical energy Governments need to prioritize nuclear power, hydropower (basically maxed with current infrastructure) and natural gas. Solar can work but it’s situational by region and size. Scalability - The studies I’ve seen indicate micro grids are best.
My CPA showed the return on investment for home solar would be 21 years for us. The insurance to cover the system needs to involve the cost of installation and removal for replacement. It’s unaffordable sadly.
2 C was always the Paris agreement target. 1.5 C was added as an afterthought and aspiration to satisfy some holding out on the Parsi agreement. It gained serious attention much later but has been held out as achievable well beyond a reasonable time.
@@DanA-nl5uo 2 C is very likely to be exceeded, because not enough will have been done. That is not helped by the failure of enough people to take 1.5 seriously, but not the point. What do you expect when 1.5 C was not taken seriously? Atkin was in the process of writing an article that the 1.5 C is dead. It has been dead a long time, and it is still held up as the aim.
When it's said that 1.5 or 2 degrees is dead that's because there's already more heat that's coming no matter wtf we do at the current way things are heating up its got all climate scientist scrambling to see whats happening and what isn't being measured that's causing the unexpected temperature rise ..
We need more international news during primetime hours. No wonder people think, "America First!" Our news is focused that way. Outside the US, news covers the world.
@@michaeledwards2251 Thank you Michael. Sure. Power Profit works. The important thing is to change the conversation. "Power Profit" would be a good term to get this subject into the Overton Window.
"This is a time for some deep reflecting and soul searching among people who care about the climate on how we interact and build community with people, because obviously it didn't work" I think this is really important but t the same time I think a lot of people don't want to build community when they have the luxury to be independent. Once society collapses we will need each other again and it will be easier to build communities. Just hold on, we will get there in the end!
Simon Michaux recently flagged an ExxonMobil report saying oil production ,without urgent investment, is set to plunge 75% by 2030. All sorts of dire implications in this, even if it turns out only to be partially true
The 2 wars were a big issue also. Both wars have a huge carbon footprint. I wanted to give Kamala a chance to reverse Biden's wars and stop Willow and have a clean slate.
This pretentious way of framing this is exactly how we got here. Calling Trump the fascist without looking at just how much democrats support capitalism shows we aren't even looking at this honestly
Half-true. Trump IS a fascist, but in the same breath it should be said that Harris is an imperialist, warmonger and mass murder apologist and supporter.
@@jb76489 Rachael does amazing fact checking. On air interviews are never going to be fact-checked infinitum. It doesn't change any of the main points so statements like yours don't add any value
@@chookbuffy well, Tump isn't a fascist. And I'd rather live in this beautiful Constitutional Republic because true democracy always turns into a dictatorship. The idea of a democracy is universal equality; the idea of a Constitutional Republic is individual Liberty. Which would you rather have?
Why would anyone want or need to “ work” when automation can provide all the productive we require. Then we can spend our time on altruistic non economic activities that truly provide us with happiness.
@ it has already been done, and artificial intelligence will continue to complete the task of the coming decades. And some folks actually enjoy building things, regardless of the economic benefits, so for them it is not really work.
The move to federal reserve crypto wouldn't have anything to do with bitcoin and mining. The federal reserve would just issue new crypto currency at will like they do dollars. Only energy demand would be a key stoke.
I think w/a little more than a gigawatt and a delorean you can go to 1955 and be present for your mom's date rape in a classic car and watch your dad muster the courage to save the day only to hire that date rapist to wax your car 30 years later.
...with the bitcoin issue, ultimately it's a move to pin the value of a currency to 'something'. A fixed value for some people is good because scarcity can be used to drive up value (much as the robber barons from the 1920's did via the gold standard), markets become manipulatable if you have the wealth to do so, whereas at the moment we still have the last vestiges of a late Keynesian system which states whatever we need is what we can ultimately afford. In essence, it is an approach aimed at removing any democratic control/accountability from the money supply so that at no point can the power of the state (via democratic institutions) be used to remove wealth from those that have it to support those that don't (again). In essence, it will shift the power balance from government institutions over into the hands of a few unelected wealthy people. Put's us back into the good old days.
that is an awesome comment. We are supposed to be in the _"Information age"_ brought about by the internet and instead we are now in the _"DIS-Information age."_
Great content, as always! I need some advice: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
It’s comical how much you don’t understand blockchain. Kind of sad, it’s a great ROI as institutions adopt the utility projects (waiting for clear regulation). Trillions we convert over the next decade. Better buy before the risk to the downside out ways the upside.
‘Someone’ is ‘pessimistic’? “So the thesis of this book stands or falls with the correctness of the decline rate that Brown gives us. Therefore I have calculated with several different parameters as regards the decline rate, and all point in the same direction. The difference be tween them is a few years at most. Therefore I assume that my thesis is solid, which is that the end of global net oil exports in 2030-2032 (Brown’s scenario) is a best-case scenario. Collapse can, I think, begin in earnest already in 2026, only be cause of too little diesel exports. Observe that oil exports vanish successively, more and more, not all at once.”? lars-larsen-the-end-of-global-net-oil-exports
My mother watched Trump campaigning and said "He's a Nazi. He has the same look of hate as the Nazi prisoners in WW II.". She was referring to the Nazi prisoners captured by the UK in WW II. Trump has the same attitudes as the Nazi. He targets different people, but the underlying drives are the same.
@@michaeledwards2251yes same with Netanyahu. Zionists are the cycle of abuse repeating itself where the victim in one cycle becomes the abuser in the next cycle.
If it’s true that we’re in the epoch of the Kali Yuga and that we’ve got 426,875 years to ride it out it would seem that Trumps a fitting character for the times. Sub out the red rider for the orange rider and the four horsemen have their new homie. Orange is the new black, indeed.
Name a factory or data-center running off-grid on its own wind and/or solar. *_Wind and solar absolutely depend upon fossil-fuels._* They don't add anything to any grid.
Crypto is trying to reduce its carbon footprint. Data Centers for everything and AI uses tons of energy as said. One benefit of Cryto is that Global Freedom Fighters can use Cryto to transfer funds. Of course, so can bad actors, but that is always the way with tech.
I can laugh at you muppets discussing this with the starting premise that there was ever a difference between the two arseholes. Your ignorance is more dangerous than trump. 😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂
Very good conversation, but at the end I disagree on Trump voters base. Harris vote are 10% more on women. And within white women, there is more voting for Trump. So it s about gender n race issue. How sad. On climate issue, yes I agree Dem doesnt capitalise on this, playing safe and fail on this.
Harris lost support among women voters, compared to Biden: *_"Harris had the advantage among women, winning 53%_* to Trump’s 46%, but that margin was somewhat narrower than President Joe Biden’s in 2020, according to the survey. In 2020, VoteCast showed *_Biden won 55% of women,_* while 43% went for Trump." (Associated Press)
Regulation has to be stripped away to meet your climate goals and the Paris accord never really did anything so what’s the point of being in it? Perhaps these girls have got to get real and take a look at the facts. I am super pro green Revolution. There’s such a shortage of jobs around the country. We need any kind of work we can get to drive wages up or more People are just gonna die.
That is really smart to mine bitcoin while your power plant is not being fully utilized IT would be great if it were a supplier to consumers and not a contract wholesale provider then if actually lowered the company's cost of operations the customers would benefit... monopoly power generation and distributors can only make a set return on their capital investments BY LAW and if they are lowering their capital investment by mining crypto they should be using it for capital equipment replacement and maintenance.
@@triplikeido75 I voted Trump, so what? I wasn't going to vote for someone just thrown into the race with 108 days left. Someone who didn't get a single vote in the 2020 primaries, in fact she wasn't even there.
i understand the sentiment but she's just as bad. check her portfolio.. not that it matters anymore. we are where we are. and again, i understand the sentiment and i hate the 'monday morning quarterback' stuff people are doing.
The only difference between Republicans and Democrats in America is the spelling. I just don't know why this is so hard to see and hear. Marketing has replaced reason and your podcast starts with it. This is not encouraging.
@@PaulCoelho-n2q Not only that, Simon Michaux has shown we do not having the mining capacity needed and renewables have never been shown to replace the 80% of our energy supply that cannot be electricified as currently only 20% of our energy is electricity. There are no electric transport boats, electric long haul transport trucks, electric planes nor do we even have ability to make the renewables without burning massive amounts of fossil fuels, only to get a very tiny energy returned on invested. Renewables will never work and aren't working currently. Put the hopium pipe down people!
Not every voter for Trump is a climate denier? Sorry, but what other testimony do you need to declare them as climate deniers? I dare say most of us are climate deniers or we would act fundamentally differently. Sure, we say it is bad and we should do something about it - oh, sorry - we say, somebody else should do something about it. Could it be, that Trump and his voters are at least honest climate deniers?
Boo. Stopped listening at the first mention of Facist. I'm not a Trump supported, but come on. We survived 4 years of Trump already. This extreme ideology on both sides has to go!!!!
"... fascist US government.." at the get-go ? It's said that Trump is transactional, due likely to his business background, And so, how do you deal with such a person when the plan is to get something important to Us done ? Yup, we negotiate. The last I checked, calling someone we need favor from an a-hole, isn't part of the 101 vocab.
I'm proud that I voted for Trump. I've never voted for a Republican before and I'll never vote for a Democrat again. I'm a registered Independent. And I vote as often as possible so I can talk shit. I usually just write in names.
@@beatreuteler the more I've learned the less faith I have in the governmental institutions of ANY country. There's nothing we can do as a society that's dependant on oil for everything from agriculture to pharmaceuticals to medical to transportation to you name it everything relies on the use of oil and until oil is gone there's nothing that can be done. There will not be 7.5 billion people once the oils gone.
@@beatreuteler either humans learn to comprehend enough or they will all be wiped out by the oceans and collapsing biotope. They are buried beneath their own bs beliefs which stem from an utter lack of curiosity and comprehension of basic truths supported by basic physics and history.
This girl is so cute and delusional. " we must not give up the fight..." 😂 there is no fight, it's game over. If we magically stopped all GHG emissions today, we would still sail past 2°C in 5 years, 10 years if we are lucky and we're Not. There is already Methan plumes coming out of the artic and the permafrost melt is Unstoppable. Do I need to go on! 😂👍🏽👏🏽👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😂👏🏽😂👏🏽😂👏🏽😂😂
When the Paris Climate Agreement was agreed upon, I wrote that there was no possibility that the global average temperature would be held to 2.0 C or less above the pre-industrial temperature. I stand by that. The changes that are required are substantial and most people aren't willing to do what is necessary and governments aren't going to do what is necessary. The Copernicus Climate Service October 2024 report came out yesterday and based upon their report, Oct. 2024 was 1.65 C above the pre-industrial average temperature. We're supposed to be moving into a La Nina and it's not apparent based upon the Oct. global average temperature.
Let’s be cynical: if Donald Trump plunges the American economy in a deep recession, and other countries with it, the CO2 reduction may be exceeding our expectations. Not the most favorite scenario, but certainly one that could have a positive impact on the climate.
Given the rate of warming, due to warming in the pipeline, will continue at the current rate for at least a decade, assuming feedback doesn't take over, a recession may make things worse : when capitalists are broke, they quit spending, R & D, and implementation, would all fall. The process of moving off FF would likely stall.
Rachel, this reminds me of the maxim that a man does not realize the value of water until the well goes dry. Emily is hilarious. In these times, maybe what we need is more laughter.
Trump got the same number of votes as last time, Harris got 15m fewer. It was a problem of turnout, the same people voted for him so it’s bit a flip! It’s apathy
It’s a complete waste of time arguing over who’s in the white house. Our planet’s going down and there’s nothing any politicians can do about it. They believe that they’re in control but they’re not
No apathy, just disgust with the Genocide and sick of the lies. The whole thing was a repeat of 2016 when the rank and file selected Bernie Sanders and the party elite shoved Hillary down our throats....with the same results.
The Democrats needed Bernie. Bernie has been hoping for the past 4 years, his friend, Biden, would back him, the way Obama backed Hilary. Had Biden backed Bernie, he likely would have won. Part of the reason is Trump is afraid of Bernie : Trump noted Bernie drew much bigger crowds than him.
Stop doing mental gymnastics for fascists. People like comfort, on all levels, and they love to pretend it's alright they are complete hypocrites.
25 million democratic party voters didn't vote this election. Maybe not having a primary and arming a genocide war a problem. Not the climate policies of both parties.
At least anti g3nocide came in third.... with .4% of the vote....
EXACTLY - I have seen the results on Wikipedia and Trumps vote was almost 1 million LESS than 2020 but the Democrat vote was over 12 million LESS than 2020.
That's 13 million people who felt to bad about the "most important election of our lives" the opted to NOT vote.
You are 100% right this is about 2 parties with NOTHING to offer millions of people other than he's your candidate now vote for them or you're a horrible failure of a human being.
I'm Australian and we are facing the same problem in a few months. Our main parties have almost NOTHING to offer other than political jargons and vacant promises. This is NOT just an American problem. Its being played out in various forms across the developed world.
@@MattAngiono
That is the most frightening aspect : no resistance to the Corporate owned Democrats and Republicans whatever. The US now is a country where
(a) The President is owned by the corporates
(b) The Supreme court is owned by the corporates
(c) Over 90% of the Congress is owned by the corporates
The US, united states, should change their name to UC, United Corporates.
@@MattAngiono it's first past the post. Many people stayed home.
@@MattAngionosad that you chear for genocide
I'm Alright Jack"
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The human condition means that most
ordinary people won't change their habits
of a lifetime until such time that their
experiential circumstances change or are
impacted for the worse.
The trigger point for change is pain, and lots of it.
pink floyd
"get your hands off my stack.."
@@NoMoreVoxPops the trigger point is the end of oil. Stop believing solar panels and wind turbines are going to save us. Or plugging your electric car into a power grid that's ran by fossil fuels.
Ordinary people will never change, wake up. They will blame the climate on some kind of conspiracy involving the government controlling the weather or that god is punishing them for allowing gays to marry. Majority of people are ignorant morons and that's the main problem with the world. That's why the world is in crisis.
Plenty enough already to make people think twice. No sign of any change yet.
@@michaeledwards2251
It should, yes but as I say "experiential circumstances".
Clearly not enough direct impact on enough people in order to create change.
It's an inconvenient truth but part of being human.
The pain will come, eventually.
I think the democratic party would do a lot better if they did take a strong stance on issues like climate change instead of just paying lip service to them and then pushing policies that go in other directions
Depends on what the goal of the democratic party is. They have done a perfect job at making sure there is no lane for anyone who would challenge the status quo in the usa
I have a feeling you still seriously overestimate the intelligence of the average US voter. Which, after this election, is a shocking thing to do.
The democrats didn't lose this election. The republicans won, in sweeping fashion. What has happened is the voting public has rejected the Enlightenment and several hundred years of liberal democracy, without having a sense of a decent replacement.
@@sascharambeaud1609 EU Greens are stagnant vote share at best
LNG terminals and the entire system is a giant apparatus seemingly made for the purpose of leaking methane. it's awful.
The really sad bit is that emissions from forest fires & other non fossil fuel sources has already overtaken the fossil fuel emissions from orphan wells etc. Especially with Canadian sources. The numbers aren't good.
Everyone needs to email Republican representatives to demand LNG terminals are shut down or a moratorium is enforced so that the gas only helps build our economy.
@@gregorymalchuk272
Given the "accidental" blowing up of a Russian nature gas pipeline feeding Germany, it does not seem likely they would listen.
The chances of hitting non reversible tipping points has just increased dramatically !!!!!
It's kinda like ice ages aren't permanent, huh?
@@naciremastithanks for showing how you don't understand the problem at all. We're going to a very different direction than what an ice age looks like, troll
@@naciremasti Nonsense, the last two only lasted 40 million years and 105 million years respectively. Hardly permanent.
@@FelipeKana1 humanity has been around for less than 300k years. Without oil we wouldn't be here. Once it's gone, the world will rejuvenate itself. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Oils the reason you eat any food you buy ina store. Oils the reason you have medical care and pharmaceuticals. Oils the reason you can plus in your electric car and charge it. Ice ages come and go.
@@hodgeyhodge8414 i fixed my grammatical error.
That was great, thank you. Good that we can laugh in the face of all this, that is a very good thing for our collective sanity. Makes me wonder if we won't address climate problems until we get economics out of the way and that is hard because the web of dependencies connected to fossil fuels is so vast, beyond climate change as you pointed out.
Oil touches everything, makes everything, powers everything and is a chemical feedstock for everything. Decoupling from that is terrifying for almost everyone in business dependent on it. Fears about peak oil going back 20 years or so could have shifted our trajectory back then, and many times before that.
Sagan warned congress about the greenhouse effect in the 70s, nobody listened, we're reaping that now so it's a cascade of black swan events in waiting at this point. Renewables will get us halfway there. They won't replace oil as a feedstock for industry so the answer is to make less things. Naturally that is counter to the growth mantra the economy demands so the most vicious and climate blind corporations may fight for the spoils.
Or we can change. As consumers. By making more choices that are aligned with a better world and a better future. That runs deeper than spending less money or giving up the car a few days a week, it's a change in mindset, in beliefs, in futures. Personally I don't think we'll get very far, until we realise that as a species, if we don't start evolving our consciousness, individually and collectively, we are fucked. Thankfully I also think that people are waking up rapidly and that a secular spiritual revolution is what we need to enable tackling our planetary predicament. Sending you guys a ton of reiki 🙌
"until we realise that as a species, if we don't start evolving our consciousness, individually and collectively, we are fucked." The only way for our "consciousness" to evolve is for the species as a whole to go through a very narrow evolutionary bottleneck in the coming cataclism that will reduce our population to 0.1% its current size or less, with survivors hopefully carrying genes enabling them not to make the same mistake again - of course, in a drastically changed environment.
I wonder if the authoritarian shift in democracies IS climate adaptation. Maybe we don’t give voters enough credit. They understand the climate issue, they see that mitigation is struggling - at best. Meanwhile, climate refugees are flooding in, complex trade is breaking down, fossil still has the power, so voters bristle up and go brute. Mitigation is not the only policy response to the climate crisis. Unprecedented international cooperation is not very likely. Defensive adaptation and prioritizing basics over ethical luxuries sure seems to describe what is happening. Societies are moving onto war footing and making difficult choices. I hope there is something wrong with this theory, but I dont see it yet.
Wish I could disagree.
That is a strikingly novel and valuable insight. Adds a new dimension to the concept of ecofascism. Thanks.
The people who voted one way or another weren't voting about the climate. Inflation helped get Trump over the line. The other thing to consider is western democracy has been hollowed out by the financial elites in the last 40 years . Plutocratic duopolies masquerading as democracies. Empty prayer wheels.
Yes , eco facism on state authoritarian n dictatorship vs eco feminism based on activism n local communities. From Indonesia, I m an eco feminist and I perceive the whole earth as our home. Everyone of u will be welcomed in my house.
Green energy isn't green.
True electricity doesn't come in colors... solar panels are usually purple and wind turbines are white most of the time...
Possibly the worst joke I’ve ever heard
@@SamWilkinsonn
Worse than ".... a fascist US government.." opening remark ?😊
@@aryaman05the parallels between now and the The Weimar Republic are a matter of historical records
Exactly.
The energy that goes into producing and installing solar panels and wind turbines, not forgetting the recycling of said materials is barely offset by the “ free” energy generated by said sources.
It is all about power and control, not stopping climate change, which will change regardless of human activity. In the past the temperature was 10+c higher than it is today. The planet flourished.
Please be bigger doormats, climate people. Be nice to all the people that don't care if an epoch of life on the planet is wiped out.
We have passed 1.5C already…Hansen has made that clear
More precisely, we haven't passed it but the chances we won't pass it are practically zero.
We won't stop til all the oil has been consumed
@@matthewm9261 why people can't realize this simple fact is beyond me. As modern society depends solely on oil for its existence.
@@sjoerd1239we have been over 1.6 for the last 16 or 18 months. 1.5 is gone
@@matthewm9261 That's absolutely right. All these conversations are becoming so repetitive and absolutely zero progress is being made so maybe it's time to try something else or just move on and accept reality? There will be no transition. All renewables will do is add a tiny amount of electric energy to our enormous pile. They will not lead to us voluntarily using less fossil fuels.
The talk of Trump staying on after 4 years is a beat up (down). In fact, there is a big chance he will not last 4 years, with Vance taking over, which will not necessarily be any better.
You know he still hasn't conceded his defeat in the 2020 election, right?
@@Slick-666
What are you implying (beating up/down)? He lost it whether he concedes it or not. He cannot have more than 8 years in office.
@@sjoerd1239Trump won three times. He didn't serve his second term yet, so he gets to serve it now.
@@aliendroneservices6621
"Trump won three times." Bullshit.
He gets to serve a second term. The point is that he will not get to serve a third.
@@aliendroneservices6621delusional
My advice to everyone is soak up all the knowledge you can while it is easy to access. Learn how to make things from scratch. Learn to teach others.
Good sentiment - very practical.
Your reminding me I need to learn some practical skills and cunning.
Doge is so on the nose that you'd expect it to be fake but here we are
We, here in the US, are seriously wondering how this possibly happened. He did no campaigning (or very little). People are questioning the results. Cannot be possible and if it is true I don't want to live in a country filled with really really stupid people.
Ha ha you are in a country and world filled with "stupid people"
Learn this - Things you can't have without oil/diesel & coal: steel; aluminum; copper; concrete; electronics; plastic; tires; etc
Civilization (any) is not sustainable in any way shape or form.
US citizens are so brainwashed and unthinking they by into this two party crap and those like you think there is some kind of overt difference between two clowns like "kamala / biden" and "trump".
i would not let either of these idiots drive my car or walk my dog.
@@kathyfaulk710 you're more than welcome to leave. And Trump campaigned for two years, not 108 days. He won his parties nomination, Kamala didn't participate in the Democratic National Convention. So tell me, who's questioning the results?
@@naciremasti give it time....
@@kathyfaulk710 the thing is, he already had 4 years, and she was part of the last 4 years. Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? I bet not.
@@naciremasti you seem to have forgotten the pandemic was the end of the last trump term
We're 🍞
If we're lucky. More likely someone will avoid toast at a price that makes people wish for toast.
I like this Emily Atkin. She does not have the usual contrived vocal fry that gets on my tits.
Bye bye AMOC. See you next time. And thanks for all the fish.
And the nice warm weather on both sides of the Atlantic : 25% extra heat from AMOC for Europe, and warmer winters on the US eastern seaboard.
@@michaeledwards2251I think you missed the Douglas Adam's reference
@@DanA-nl5uo
Dolphins, the earth was moved to a different dimension to make room for a hyperspace road.
@@michaeledwards2251it was demolished in the book.
@@DanA-nl5uo
It appeared to be demolished, it reappears as the brain of the super depressed Robot.
its not funny...not once it sets in that a hunter gather lifestyle would be easier than modernity...if the land wasnt poisoned...its a salted earth policy.
TBH -- slept through most of this, not because you're boring but because my brain just can't handle more info right now and sleeping for sanity kicks in.
Writing from Bolivia where the heart of our equivalent of your Yellowstone, but far more biodiverse, our Madidi National Park, is sustaining raging mega fires.
This year alone we've lost another 7, some say 10+ million hectares of grasslands, wetlands, and some of the most biodiverse forests, including ancient primary forests, on earth.
Billions of sentient beings and millions of mammals dead. Far too many humans are far too out of touch with reality.
All who get it need to pull together asap ...
There aren’t enough of us left. Empathy has been bred out of most humans today.
Here in rural BC 🍁 they voted in a con climate denier. The lakes are polluted with sewage, the wetlands turned into scrubland, the old forests clearcut, wildfires burn hundreds of houses or businesses, and billions of tax money is being poured into making the highway into a freeway. Car-Culture consumerism reigns supreme with the sick suburban sprawl mentality here. Sad, l see no hope for a better future. Sorry to hear of your losses there in South America. It appears to be a fascist reactionary global crisis.
@larrypilcher3791 Truly sorry to hear. In earlier, more innocent years i, and probably many in Latin America, imagined Canada to be an environmental haven, even a beacon.
Now i know better -- but did not imagine it was that bad.
Lovers of life, nature, and humanity -- biophiles & ecologists around the world -- need to come together.
@ And you should see what they’ve done to the tar sands area!
@ yes, the aboriginal peoples drink and breath poison every single day.
Sleepwalking into the apocalypse……
Great episode Rachel, thanks. It's good to laugh in the face of such adversity and I found myself laughing along with your gallows humour. It did me the world of good. But hey, in the cold light of day, we're f****d aren't we? The only slight hope I have is that the shock of a second Trump adminstration (and its dire implications for global climate action) might galvanise the rest of the world to take firm action in the knowledge that there is unlikely to be leadership on the climate crisis from the US for the next 4 crucial years, possibly more. That said, I think it's unlikely. I've lived through too many false dawns to build my hopes around a political tipping point. Aint gonna happen.
I've found myself turning into a doomer, even a prepper. I'm increasingly thinking about the need to take personal responsibility for my own survival and that of my family. My hopes for global action have disintegrated, so all that's left for me is making sure my family have a lifeboat, because, God knows, we're going to need lifeboats soon.
Unlikely to be that lucky. Too much of the Eastern Seaboard infrastructure is going to be submerged this century. The rating of the infrastructure, general, some parts are worse, is D+.
WASF!
I think for climate it is just marginally important if Trump will leave office in 4 years or not. There are the voters and they are not going away. So after Trump there are still loads of other similar people ready to carry on. So let's plan for +2° or possibly more probable +2.5° if not in our lifetime, then in the lifetime of our grandchildren. Our grandchildren who are growing up right now need a special education on how to survive the harsh conditions they will face. Not only the outer conditions but also the social impact of 1 or 2 billion people that will migrate from less habitable reagions to more habitable ones that are densly populated already.
If you think climate change will be limited to 2.5c, you’re dreaming
What a cop out for our children 😢
And if we hit enough tipping points,
It is game over.
@@beatreuteler if you think it will be limited to 2.5c, you’re dreaming
It will take a lot of fighting for there to be legit votes in 4 years... "strongmen" are not known to give up power. Besides, he's just the Trojan horse for the corporate 0lig.arc.hs. They wrote Project 2025 because they saw how dumb and incompetent he and his first Presidency team were, and they don't want the useful idiots to fumble around and lose the coup the second time around!
@@jb76489yes I was going to say that we will be at 2.0 by 2037, 2.5 by 2055, 3.0 by 2070… my random estimates but something I am confident in
First of all great podcast! Thank you both. I think the real reason majority of people in the US aren’t doing anything to act on the climate crisis is because somewhere deep down inside, they understand what it means to their fossil-fueled lifestyles if they acknowledge that it IS a crisis. It means a low energy future. No more flying off to meet a friend in New York (or Paris!) for a weekend or running their huge motor boat around some lake in northern Wisconsin. It would mean eating less meat, consuming less fast fashion, less plastic junk, etc. At the very heart of all of this is that most Americans are enjoying their consumerism and they don’t wanna let go of it. Not ANY of it. Over the past decades they have seen their friends, family, neighbors flying all over the place, driving all over the place, buying bigger TV’s, bigger cars, bigger houses. And they want those things too! They do not see what’s coming in the horrors of real food shortages, real water shortages as the weather turns into nightmares of climate catastrophes, one after the other- which honestly we (in the US) have all participated in fueling. It’s a train wreck coming and they don’t see it because they’re blinded by the bright lights. I’m not sure how we go about taking away the future that they have envisioned for themselves and their children, but that future is in jeopardy. Who will tell them?
When President Carter tried gentle restraint to achieve energy reduction, he got thrown out for a man, Reagan, who put hospital mental patients on the street for a quick buck, and started the energy splurge.
Given a choice between splurge, and a future, they chose splurge. President Carter told them. They made their choice and haven't regretted a moment of the splurge.
(When asked, they say he was lecturing, meaning reminding people the world is real. )
As an American I am utterly embarrassed by the movement of the US population and their ignorance and gullibility.
@@AlignmentCoaching why
You've not being paying attention, have you?
Something beyond gullibility is involved. Only 0.4% didn't vote for a Corporate party, Democrat or Republican.
@@michaeledwards2251 make that 41.4%, based on a voter turnout (VEP) of 58.2%
I am embarrassed by the duopoly. One party gives us Trump and the other can't even provide an alternative to defeat such a low bar.
Thank you!! This was so helpful. I live in North Carolina. Emily is very funny and informative at the same time. I am a Chemist, Doomer, Teckie. I own 2 EVs, one ICE car and Cryto currency. I believe hatred of women and women's own institutionalized self-hatred added significantly to this election outcome.
please listen to this interview:
One Voter to Understand Trump’s Win
New York Times Podcasts
Nov 7, 2024 The Run-Up
From Indonesia, the way I see it s just common sense over facts. A half of american mostly white women elected rapist, lunatic, misogynist with bizarre policy, over a remarkable asian black woman who is supposed to be perfect. You see, half american are idiot ignorant choosing between decency and lunatic.
Practical energy
Governments need to prioritize nuclear power, hydropower (basically maxed with current infrastructure) and natural gas.
Solar can work but it’s situational by region and size. Scalability - The studies I’ve seen indicate micro grids are best.
My CPA showed the return on investment for home solar would be 21 years for us.
The insurance to cover the system needs to involve the cost of installation and removal for replacement. It’s unaffordable sadly.
American here still in shock. It appeared that late deciders were breaking for Harris, but alas likely a polling illusion.
Some of the lethargic Democrats suddenly remembering what 4 years of Trump was like.
2 C was always the Paris agreement target. 1.5 C was added as an afterthought and aspiration to satisfy some holding out on the Parsi agreement. It gained serious attention much later but has been held out as achievable well beyond a reasonable time.
How will you rationalize the failure when we cross 2 in a few years?
@@DanA-nl5uo
2 C is very likely to be exceeded, because not enough will have been done. That is not helped by the failure of enough people to take 1.5 seriously, but not the point. What do you expect when 1.5 C was not taken seriously?
Atkin was in the process of writing an article that the 1.5 C is dead. It has been dead a long time, and it is still held up as the aim.
When it's said that 1.5 or 2 degrees is dead that's because there's already more heat that's coming no matter wtf we do at the current way things are heating up its got all climate scientist scrambling to see whats happening and what isn't being measured that's causing the unexpected temperature rise ..
@@larrytaylor693
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Drill baby drill!
We need more international news during primetime hours. No wonder people think, "America First!" Our news is focused that way. Outside the US, news covers the world.
Thank you for all of your good, hard work.
Please stop saying "consumer demand." That's a power industry term to confuse the public. The correct term should be "Power Industry Profit Demands."
Power Profit would be best : I wouldn't expect more than 2 words to be remembered.
@@michaeledwards2251 Thank you Michael. Sure. Power Profit works. The important thing is to change the conversation. "Power Profit" would be a good term to get this subject into the Overton Window.
"This is a time for some deep reflecting and soul searching among people who care about the climate on how we interact and build community with people, because obviously it didn't work" I think this is really important but t the same time I think a lot of people don't want to build community when they have the luxury to be independent. Once society collapses we will need each other again and it will be easier to build communities. Just hold on, we will get there in the end!
Thank you Emily
Simon Michaux recently flagged an ExxonMobil report saying oil production ,without urgent investment, is set to plunge 75% by 2030. All sorts of dire implications in this, even if it turns out only to be partially true
The 2 wars were a big issue also. Both wars have a huge carbon footprint. I wanted to give Kamala a chance to reverse Biden's wars and stop Willow and have a clean slate.
Wouldn’t have happened.
She had that chance for the last 4 years. She was right there second seat as his top advisor.
Kinda used to poor leaders here.
@@Milhouse77BS what do you expect from a two party system?
This pretentious way of framing this is exactly how we got here.
Calling Trump the fascist without looking at just how much democrats support capitalism shows we aren't even looking at this honestly
There's a huge gulf between capitalism and fascism.
Half-true. Trump IS a fascist, but in the same breath it should be said that Harris is an imperialist, warmonger and mass murder apologist and supporter.
He will leave office and the people and government will make him, unless they change the law.
13:23 "212 gigawatts is something like *_600_* Hoover Dams."
*_100_* Hoover Dams.
Hoover Dam capacity: 2.08 GW
Come now, you can’t expect a journalist to know what they’re saying or do any fact checking
@@jb76489 Rachael does amazing fact checking. On air interviews are never going to be fact-checked infinitum. It doesn't change any of the main points so statements like yours don't add any value
@chookbuffy I guess I’ll have to assume the rest of this interview is just as accurate then
@@chookbuffy well, Tump isn't a fascist. And I'd rather live in this beautiful Constitutional Republic because true democracy always turns into a dictatorship.
The idea of a democracy is universal equality; the idea of a Constitutional Republic is individual Liberty. Which would you rather have?
It might be based on capacity factor rather than nameplate capacity.
Tying Bitcoin to the US dollar will help destroy the dollar, which would be the goal.
@@johnstacy6921 taking it off the gold standard was the final nail in the coffin for the dollar.
BRICS trading outside the dollar will collapse the dollar
@@naciremasti that was over half a century ago.
@@naciremasti
The Saud $ Oil link kept the $ afloat. Now the market value of the $ will soon be found.
@@DanA-nl5uoand the dollar has depreciated sixfold over the past 50 years.
Brilliant. Feel exactly the same. Laughed along with you
Love the work you both do. Considering this is a serious subject, this is hilarious, you two are so funny together.
That microphone isn't even plugged in ? What's going on ?
Love your laughter ❤❤
Why would anyone want or need to “ work” when automation can provide all the productive we require. Then we can spend our time on altruistic non economic activities that truly provide us with happiness.
Go ahead and build a fully-automated factory. Let us know when you're done.
@ it has already been done, and artificial intelligence will continue to complete the task of the coming decades. And some folks actually enjoy building things, regardless of the economic benefits, so for them it is not really work.
Sorry your mic is awful😢
The move to federal reserve crypto wouldn't have anything to do with bitcoin and mining. The federal reserve would just issue new crypto currency at will like they do dollars. Only energy demand would be a key stoke.
13:19 "Off hand, I don't know how much a gigawatt is."
It shows.
I think w/a little more than a gigawatt and a delorean you can go to 1955 and be present for your mom's date rape in a classic car and watch your dad muster the courage to save the day only to hire that date rapist to wax your car 30 years later.
...with the bitcoin issue, ultimately it's a move to pin the value of a currency to 'something'. A fixed value for some people is good because scarcity can be used to drive up value (much as the robber barons from the 1920's did via the gold standard), markets become manipulatable if you have the wealth to do so, whereas at the moment we still have the last vestiges of a late Keynesian system which states whatever we need is what we can ultimately afford. In essence, it is an approach aimed at removing any democratic control/accountability from the money supply so that at no point can the power of the state (via democratic institutions) be used to remove wealth from those that have it to support those that don't (again). In essence, it will shift the power balance from government institutions over into the hands of a few unelected wealthy people. Put's us back into the good old days.
Sadly there is no shortage of ignorance with an opinion.
that is an awesome comment.
We are supposed to be in the _"Information age"_ brought about by the internet and instead we are now in the _"DIS-Information age."_
Great content, as always! I need some advice: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
It’s comical how much you don’t understand blockchain. Kind of sad, it’s a great ROI as institutions adopt the utility projects (waiting for clear regulation). Trillions we convert over the next decade. Better buy before the risk to the downside out ways the upside.
I just bought ten dollars of DOGEcoin just to track what happens over the next 10 years if I live that long.
‘Someone’ is ‘pessimistic’?
“So the thesis of this book stands or falls with the correctness of the decline rate that Brown gives us. Therefore I have calculated with several different parameters as regards the decline rate, and all point in the same direction. The difference be tween them is a few years at most. Therefore I assume that my thesis is solid, which is that the end of global net oil exports in
2030-2032 (Brown’s scenario) is a best-case scenario.
Collapse can, I think, begin in earnest already in 2026, only be cause of too little diesel exports. Observe that oil exports vanish successively, more and more, not all at once.”?
lars-larsen-the-end-of-global-net-oil-exports
42:30 The RFK folks dislike plastics... not like the democrats are doing anything substantial about plastic use.
It didn't took may seconds before saying word "fascist". l hate when people use it lighthearted, watering its meaning.
My mother watched Trump campaigning and said "He's a Nazi. He has the same look of hate as the Nazi prisoners in WW II.". She was referring to the Nazi prisoners captured by the UK in WW II.
Trump has the same attitudes as the Nazi. He targets different people, but the underlying drives are the same.
@@michaeledwards2251yes same with Netanyahu. Zionists are the cycle of abuse repeating itself where the victim in one cycle becomes the abuser in the next cycle.
If it’s true that we’re in the epoch of the Kali Yuga and that we’ve got 426,875 years to ride it out it would seem that Trumps a fitting character for the times. Sub out the red rider for the orange rider and the four horsemen have their new homie. Orange is the new black, indeed.
I don't get that title. What did you expect? Without pandemic on the way Trump would have won 4 years ago,
The renewable energy projects will still get done because AI progress will demand more energy from all sources.
Name a factory or data-center running off-grid on its own wind and/or solar. *_Wind and solar absolutely depend upon fossil-fuels._* They don't add anything to any grid.
@@aliendroneservices6621I can show you many homes that are completely off grid with solar.
Crypto is trying to reduce its carbon footprint. Data Centers for everything and AI uses tons of energy as said. One benefit of Cryto is that Global Freedom Fighters can use Cryto to transfer funds. Of course, so can bad actors, but that is always the way with tech.
@@dianewallace6064 "Crypto is trying to *_reduce its carbon footprint."_*
That would cause demand to explode.
I can laugh at you muppets discussing this with the starting premise that there was ever a difference between the two arseholes. Your ignorance is more dangerous than trump. 😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂
Very good conversation, but at the end I disagree on Trump voters base. Harris vote are 10% more on women. And within white women, there is more voting for Trump. So it s about gender n race issue. How sad. On climate issue, yes I agree Dem doesnt capitalise on this, playing safe and fail on this.
Harris lost support among women voters, compared to Biden:
*_"Harris had the advantage among women, winning 53%_* to Trump’s 46%, but that margin was somewhat narrower than President Joe Biden’s in 2020, according to the survey. In 2020, VoteCast showed *_Biden won 55% of women,_* while 43% went for Trump." (Associated Press)
This election was based on the border and price of eggs!!!
...which folks found a lot more meaningful than endless cackle !😊
@@aryaman05they will find it a lot more expensive with tariffs wars starting in 2025.
Regulation has to be stripped away to meet your climate goals and the Paris accord never really did anything so what’s the point of being in it? Perhaps these girls have got to get real and take a look at the facts. I am super pro green Revolution. There’s such a shortage of jobs around the country. We need any kind of work we can get to drive wages up or more People are just gonna die.
That is really smart to mine bitcoin while your power plant is not being fully utilized IT would be great if it were a supplier to consumers and not a contract wholesale provider then if actually lowered the company's cost of operations the customers would benefit... monopoly power generation and distributors can only make a set return on their capital investments BY LAW and if they are lowering their capital investment by mining crypto they should be using it for capital equipment replacement and maintenance.
I voted for Jill Stein. The Democratic party does not accept climate science.
Oh.. aren't you special!! Obviously, you voted for Trump via Jill Stein. 👏
@@triplikeido75 I voted Trump, so what? I wasn't going to vote for someone just thrown into the race with 108 days left. Someone who didn't get a single vote in the 2020 primaries, in fact she wasn't even there.
@@triplikeido75 how many delegates did Kamala get in the 2020 Democratic primary?
i understand the sentiment but she's just as bad. check her portfolio.. not that it matters anymore. we are where we are. and again, i understand the sentiment and i hate the 'monday morning quarterback' stuff people are doing.
@triplikeido75 or did you vote Trump by not giving up on the Democrats sooner and supporting a non-terrible party? 🤔...
The only difference between Republicans and Democrats in America is the spelling. I just don't know why this is so hard to see and hear. Marketing has replaced reason and your podcast starts with it. This is not encouraging.
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What is going on with this show? Nothing but corporate bright green lies on here now.
Try opening a book sometime. Other than the Bible
@FelipeKana1 Wow what in the f are you talking about? I'm an atheist anarcho-communist. What did I say that had anything to do with the Bible?
@@FelipeKana1 what kinda book?
Obviously renewables are just a smokescreen for traditional economic metaphysicians, but you have to convince them to dismantle refineries somehow.
@@PaulCoelho-n2q Not only that, Simon Michaux has shown we do not having the mining capacity needed and renewables have never been shown to replace the 80% of our energy supply that cannot be electricified as currently only 20% of our energy is electricity. There are no electric transport boats, electric long haul transport trucks, electric planes nor do we even have ability to make the renewables without burning massive amounts of fossil fuels, only to get a very tiny energy returned on invested. Renewables will never work and aren't working currently. Put the hopium pipe down people!
You have lost me as a subscriber now for pushing your own hateful thinking on to others.
Not every voter for Trump is a climate denier? Sorry, but what other testimony do you need to declare them as climate deniers? I dare say most of us are climate deniers or we would act fundamentally differently. Sure, we say it is bad and we should do something about it - oh, sorry - we say, somebody else should do something about it. Could it be, that Trump and his voters are at least honest climate deniers?
Boo. Stopped listening at the first mention of Facist. I'm not a Trump supported, but come on. We survived 4 years of Trump already. This extreme ideology on both sides has to go!!!!
It is not extreme ideology. Fascist is a fairly accurate description.
You should listen to Larry Wilkinson and Chris Hedges. You might rethink the difference between the last trump term and this one.
Would l have jumped for Joy at the alternatives, even the Greens are addicted to increasing population overshoot.
Natural gas is the least polluting fossil fules. And HOW DO MAKE ROADS. tar. Like the worse fossil fuel product?
You go and make a bunch of ev and feel better and drink you latte and DRIVE ON TAR AND GRAVEL.
@@surfskate3 and plug into an electric grid powered by fossil fuels..can't forget that.
Yes. I ride my road bike on the shoreline trail in south sf bay, and it is paved with this fine gravel, quite pleasant.
That is not something to be proud of. It is still pollution that will end all life on earth
Delusional
That sums up Trump well...
"... fascist US government.." at the get-go ?
It's said that Trump is transactional, due likely to his business background, And so, how do you deal with such a person when the plan is to get something important to Us done ?
Yup, we negotiate.
The last I checked, calling someone we need favor from an a-hole, isn't part of the 101 vocab.
Good luck out bidding the billionaires
I'm proud that I voted for Trump. I've never voted for a Republican before and I'll never vote for a Democrat again. I'm a registered Independent. And I vote as often as possible so I can talk shit. I usually just write in names.
It's one owner - two teams
this is all smoke and mirrors
One of the most graceful things I discovered during the past few dcades is the fact one is not required to understand everything.
Good Russian bot.
@@beatreuteler the more I've learned the less faith I have in the governmental institutions of ANY country. There's nothing we can do as a society that's dependant on oil for everything from agriculture to pharmaceuticals to medical to transportation to you name it everything relies on the use of oil and until oil is gone there's nothing that can be done.
There will not be 7.5 billion people once the oils gone.
@@beatreuteler either humans learn to comprehend enough or they will all be wiped out by the oceans and collapsing biotope. They are buried beneath their own bs beliefs which stem from an utter lack of curiosity and comprehension of basic truths supported by basic physics and history.
This was really great to see you two laughing about such a scary topic. Thank you. Needed that.
This girl is so cute and delusional. " we must not give up the fight..." 😂 there is no fight, it's game over. If we magically stopped all GHG emissions today, we would still sail past 2°C in 5 years, 10 years if we are lucky and we're Not. There is already Methan plumes coming out of the artic and the permafrost melt is Unstoppable. Do I need to go on! 😂👍🏽👏🏽👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😂👏🏽😂👏🏽😂👏🏽😂😂
So, what's the solution ?
Stock up with more beer ?
The second we stop emitting aerosols it's over....
So the only choice is to keep burning unless we've done something like MEER Reflection Project