Also, as soon as the wine went into OP's face, the FIRST instruction to the staff should have been "Call the cops!" I don't get this 'trying to de-escalate' with people who are obviously psychotic!
My granddaughter is 15 and I told her that the moment a customer puts their hands on her she is to call the police. No matter what the cowardly manager says this is assault on a minor.
Story 3: That is literally (and legally) *actual child abuse.* That father needed to be reported to the police and/or CPS. Several of the things he did were actually illegal to do even to adults, let alone children. The last part about demanding that they take off their underwear for "inspection" could even be classified as *sexual assault of a minor.*
Well like she said it happened years ago and if it was let say 25 or 30 odd year ago. Then thess boomers thought what they did to their kids was their right like as if we are their damn property. I still cring to this day when i hear the phrase i helped brought you into this world and i can take you out just as well. Smh
Story 4: Him being a pred explained everything, he wanted to walk in on someone not covered enough, and while that apparently never happened in this particular incident, OP was lucky enough to catch him looking through underwear and set off a chain reaction that ended in divorce, jail, and restraining orders, and also the registry if that can happen
A vast majority of child abductions are by family members, so to hear those people demanding her newborn would for sure trigger protective paranoid instincts.
It happened to me when I had twins, I wasn't married and almost 20. Next daughter was born over 3 years later. I developed blood clots, I was in intensive care . At that time I was married. My cousin and older sister tried to get my twins, because he wasn't their father, and Dr wasn't sure I'd make it.
@@Mew_Mokuba_Akari , no they backed down once he told them that he wasn't going to give them to the cousins or any family members. You'd think they would be worried about my health and help instead of doing stuff to upset me. I don't know..... they ended up doing shots to help themselves get pregnant Finally left me alone, thank God. Tyvm I appreciate the concern.
Story 4 I’ve heard on other channels. Apparently, after OP’s friend’s dad got divorced and was served with jail time, a few of OP’s friends got restraining orders put on him, few of them had to seek therapy and another got a therapy dog.
@@JadenYukifan28 Actually you be surprised how some couples can keep secrets from their partner. There was this one story of a husband who was living a double life with another woman. Children and all.
Story 3: That Dad is a psycho. The brother likely clogged the toilet and the "blood" (if it was blood) could easily have been from him tearing something while going. It happens when people are super constipated. But does he check the son's pants? No. Cos the dad is a psycho misogynist. I hope at the time OP told someone (mom, other relatives, etc.) about this abuse and now I hope OP is as far away from that man as possible.
even if the bathroom clogged and left for a while, since poop is brown it desintegrates and it becomes reddish, i once thought i peed blood but the bathroom was just clogged with old poop
Story 1 - It wasn’t even BB’s birthday! Story 2 - I really hope Step Grandmother did record the call so that any lawyer she played it to would know that she is a basket case.
I was thinking along the same line, like wait until he is old enough and take him somewhere for a lap dance. She is probably too cheap to pay for that though, when she thought she could force a waitress at a regular place to do it for free.
@@kitarrah1422 I would respond with "ma'am, this isn't a strip club, we don't pay our employees to dance on customers' laps. Also, isn't he underage??" passive aggressive, baby!
For the Karen who assaulted the waitress, police need to be called & charges laid. Assault on the waitress, assault on the manager for the wine, property damage for the glasses, harassment, & theft for not paying. Also, trespassing if she refuses to leave.
They wanted her to sign custody papers? For what? So they can say she signed over custody of her 2 week old? She told them that she was married but they only heard what they wanted to hear? She was a young, poor, unwed mother. They're not related by blood so they are nothing to her, block them, change your phone number, try to get a restraining order and move just in case they know your address. Be careful when crazy is involved.
When I was 8 months pregnant (15 years ago) my husband's alcoholic Aunt cornered me in the kitchen and said "I should drive you out in the woods, cut you open, and take that baby as my own. You'll just ruin it." His family now calls us "petty" and "acting like children" because we refuse to go to any family function where she is present. They say we should "Get over it, she was drunk, she didn't mean it." (important background info, this same woman once set her own son on fire, on purpose, because he took too long to get back from the store)
@@alfredogm4148 Nope, nothing ever happened to her. The family covered it up like they do everything else that shows who they really are. As it is, we are still considered the family outcasts because we refuse to accept her behavior.
Actually, since she made body contact it should be battery and since she restricted the waitress movement by grabbing her charges for wrongful imprisonment should be slapped on.
@@DaemonwarriorJulius What kind of mother teaches her 17 year old son he's entitled to some random waitress' body?! This is not a strip club and he has not paid for a lap dance. He's gonna have screwed up views of women if THIS is what his mother tries to instill in him. He has zero right to that girl's body. No means no. I'm just disgusted.
OP in story 1 just told her worker to go back after being told that the argument was about her being sexually harassed and THEN the employee was assaulted. OP should’ve nipped that in the bud immediately.
OP explained why he did it. Since he wasn't there to witness it himself, he wanted to make sure, that nobody was exaggerating or overreacting. He should've called the cops on Karen, though...
@@fluidwolf and didn’t do a damn thing about it after a report of sexual harassment by his employee. Yet another manager who couldn’t get of their ass until shit hit the fan.
@@fluidwolf OP stated that the waitress reported "customer requested waitress sit on customer's lap, and refused." She should have been immediately reassigned/removed from that situation.
OP should have told her “this is a family restaurant not the red light district. And if you continue to harass my waitress the cops will be called and you’ll be trespassed and charged will be filed.”
The toilet issue triggered a memory. I was in high school a long time ago and someone used my dad's razor and didn't clean it . He went after me, accusing me of using it and not cleaning it. It was not me, I had my own. I was one of six siblings. He kept yelling that I was lying about it, and although that time I didn't get hit, I was punished for something I didn't do. Being the oldest, I got the brunt of most of the punishments.
Story 2. Why would anyone stay on a call with evil, crazy people who has always made it known that they hate you? And this call had to be at least 30 minutes! It's a phone call! You are free to hang up and block them! Why would any one subject themselves to a Physic Vampire trying to inflict emotional damage on you? Hang Up The Phone! Block Her Number! Simple. Story 3. And OP still calls this person her Father? He would be my Late Father, because he would be Dead to me.
Story 4: I heard this story before, and listening to that makes my skin crawl, and I'm a guy! A "no locked doors" policy is already a massive red flag, and the fact that this creep tried to pin OP as the villain for his own actions? I am glad this creep is finally behind bars, and after what happened, being slapped with FIVE restraining orders should tell you enough.
The daughters of the third story were so strong! I can't even remember the number of times I urinated myself when being yelled at like that by my father... I hope they are both safe and in a better place, both physically and mentally.
Last story. Most violent sexual predators start off with stealing underwear. Also I'd NEVER let my kids stay at someone's house who had a "No locked door" policy for the BATHROOM.
Story 1: Does the restaurant have cameras? OP is being ridiculously tolerant of SEXUAL BATTERY of a MINOR. If I had been there at least one person would have been arrested. OP did NOT PROTECT the MINOR WAITRESS from the battery. Instead, he acted like a Karen when he brushed off the situation, just being concerned about a few broken glasses, when he should have protected the minor waitress after the initial report, and showed appropriate concern about her mental and physical health after the battery. OP failed as a man and manager. Story 2: Another too-tolerant OP. Hang up at the first hint of insanity! Because you stayed on the phone, YOU should have recorded the call and made a police report about their threats. Story 3: OP, did you ever report the abuse? He should never be allowed to supervise or be alone with children. Story 4: FINALLY a pervert goes to prison!
Story #1: worst manager ever: 1}The waitress has trouble with an EM, he brushes her of because maybe the EM was joking 2} the waitress gets assaulted and he wants to 'hear the EM's side of the story, because why? he saw the girl get assaulted.3} the EM curses at him, assaults him, refuses to pay and leaves and he still doesn't call the police?
You are prejudiced. You only want to hear one side of the story and condemn the other side right away. Don't you people hear other stories where the OP was manhandled by police or manager right away because he was a big man and the Karen side was a small old woman or girl? That they don't ask what happened first? And you cursed the police or manager for that? Do that ring a bell in your heads? OP is right, he had to hear both side of the story. Then he decided. That's an adult thing to do.
@gorilladisco9108 No. When the waitress went to her supervisor saying she was uncomfortable with the situation, she should have been moved out of that situation immediately, no matter if it was "just a joke" or not. Sexual harassment is not something to tolerate for any reason. That supervisor failed miserably.
Story 2: OP does not owe her infertile step aunt (I'm guessing that's what the grandparents meant) any children. In fact, separating the baby from OP might just cause more damage in the long run. Glad that OP cut contact, because those demands just don't work
Story 1: i’m trying to figure out what OP is waiting for? That was a teenager being sexually harassed by some old woman for her son’s amusement, if that’s not a reason to call the cops I don’t know what is.
Story 3 was not entitlement. Thats creepy af and he needs to be locked up. Story 1 was also disgusting he the mother needs to be locked up for assulting a minor. Both the waitress and her son by trying to force her onto him
Story 3: I had my mom's husband at the time come barging into the living room to yell at me while I was on the couch. Over what? A small container of garlic butter in the fridge. That my mom had made. These men are all about control and dominance.
Manager talked too much to the birthday mom/Karen. Once she demanded to talk to the owner and refused to back down just keep her distracted while you call the cops. That was way too much conversation. As nearly every restaurant nowadays has cameras all over their dining areas just showing the cops the footage will be all you need to resolve the issue. Don't let your ego fool you into thinking you're some awesome verbal judo master. Prioritize the workforce instead and get that awful wretch of a "mother" hauled off in cuffs for assaulting staff. Let the judge make her pay you.
Story One: When said Karen "She's here to serve us!" it must have taken everything in OP's power not to say, "SERVE YOU FOOD! THIS IS A RESTURANT NOT A BROTHEL & BOTH HER AND YOUR CHILD ARE UNDER 18!" He then SHOULD have called the cops!
I am ao disappointed in OP in the 1st story. Regardless of Karen not paying the bill, her causing glasses to get broken or even throwing the wine in his face he should have already called the cops due to the harassment of the waitress by the Karen. Not to mention as soon as the waitress said the Karen tried to make her sit on the son's lap the waitress shouldn't have had to go back to the table. This is just ridiculous. Even if OP thought it may have been a joke initially, the waitress was clearly uncomfortable & he should've handled this whole situation completely different
They probably don't wanna deal with the legal stuff that comes with pressing charges, like going to court, and others are just passive and want things to be over.
@@LilChuunosukenot when it involves the assault and sexual assault of multiple children by an adult. Adult on adult and child on child may be dismissed but usually adult on child is not.
Story 1: If I was the birthday boy I would wish for the Karen Mom to go no contact with me for embarrassing me. Seriously I would pay for the bill/damage on principle to show I not like her.
Story 1: Karen committed 1) Assault of a Minor Child, 2) Attempted Sexual Performance of a Minor Child (attempting to force a child to give her son a lap dance) and 3) Theft. Story 4: I really hope that the friend was never SA'd as that can happen in situations like this. Hopefully the guy was dealt with accordingly in prison.
Story 3: I almost guarantee the father is the one that clogged the toilet and he just wanted to blame his daughters or it was the brother and he was probably old enough and big enough to beat his dad if he got in his face
Story 2: Of course nothing came of it. Any sane person/lawyer looking at this case would immediately know it's going nowhere fast. They basically tried to steal a baby that had F all to do with them. Insane doesn't even begin to describe it.
story 1, that manager is f-ed up. a customer tells a young staff to sit on her sons lap and just says to ignore it?! and then later when the girl is assaulted by the karen is told to go back to work?! are you kidding me?! and didn't immediately kick them out or call the cops?!?!?!?!?!?! i hope that girl sued both the karen AND reported the manager because wtf
I was told that a male relative went way beyond “no locked doors”. His two kids ,M & F, never had doors to their bedrooms. That one of the kids first had a bedroom door when she went to college.
Story 1 I'm infuriated the manager did not call the police immediately as it seems the waitress was underage and she was assaulting her and attempting to sexually assault her by putting her in a male lap of which she wanted no part.
Story 1: I don't get it. As soon as he saw the woman grabbing the waitress, he should have called police. She assaulted two people and destroyed the restaurant's property. Like... what? Story 3: Pretty sure there was no mom in the picture, as Op/her insane father said that Op and her sister were the only people in the house to have periods. Though I suppose the mtoher could have been post menopause.
I would NOT have told a 17 year old waitress who had just been harassed and assaulted under my management, "that's ok, just clean it up"...if at all possible, I would have had her go ask one of my bussers to come help so she was away from the problem.
My head was spinning when the manager told her to ignore it and continue serving them. "They made you uncomfortable? No worries, I'll cover the table from here on out. You go [perform other task away from the situation.]"
That last story... Nightmare scenario. I've been absolutely creeped out by friends dad's before, but luckily, nothing even remotely like this ever happened.
Okay, story one. Mom grabs waitress and wrestles her to try and sit on her son's lap. That's assault and potentially SA against both the waitress and her own son. She broke glasses in the process of wrestling the waitress around, that is destruction of property. She then threw a glass of wine in the managers face, there's more assault. Then refused to pay her bill or for the glasses she broke, which is theft. So the question. Why were the cops not called? Why weren't charges pressed on her? Considering they sent her a bill which she still refuses to pay, why haven't they sent the police over to deal with her? Its nice that the son is mature, but that doesn't excuse letting her get away with it. Maybe a few months in the cooler will give her some proper perspective on how to behave towards waitstaff.
The first story: Had I been OP, as soon as that psycho entitled mother threw her drink, I would have thrown hands. Also, her refusal to pay constitutes theft of services. Not to mention causing a disturbance, sexual harassment and just a general liability to the business, there's got to be some other arrestable offcences in there somewhere. I sure hope the restaurant has CCTV.
@@seancasey8640That's what it sounded like to me. Most managers or business owners spend too much time kowtowing to every Tom, Dick and Karen who waltz through their doors. The woman in this story, for example, is a liability, and should have been treated as such. In the very least, she should have been banned from the property along with being formally trespassed by police up to and including facing criminal charges for all of her insane behavior.
Karen in story 1 should be charged with = Assault, assault and battery, s3xual assault and harrasment. Also needs to pay for all things that broke because of her.
The thing about babies is sometimes their hair and eye color change. My dad was born with white blonde hair that turned jet black after a few years. Just love your baby no matter what they look like. All babies are precious. Stop focusing on features that you think mean anything.
Yep. I’m of Russian descent, and my dad and his siblings, and I, were blond(e) as small children. I was shocked when I saw a picture of my father as maybe 6-7 years old, and he was blond. As an adult, his hair was very dark brown, almost pure black. I have medium brown hair. My hair went dark when I was 7 or 8 years old. I guess it’s a common thing among Slavic people.
Story one: OP should have reacted the first time his waitress told him about her situation, it´s just not okay to ask/harass a waitress to sit on someones lap.... she´s not an "escort-girl" .... and that 17-year old "boy"... he came in later, apologiesed and everything was fine??? This little ***** should have told his mum to stop that nonsense when it happened and NOT just sitting there... or was he tied and gagged at his birthday so he couldn´t react? ....
Story 2: I absolutely agree with her not being paranoid. This is how the mayority of child kidnappings happend. Family members stealings the children of other family members.
Story 3 reminded me of being lined up with my siblings and getting grilled to confess for some wrongdoing or other and then confessing out of personal shame but no guilt because I had not done the thing. Looking back, I realize its a pretty universal thing for teenagers to lie to their parents, but some parents deal with it better than others. I like reading stories of parents who adapted to situations like that in a creative way instead of angry, a way that didn't insult the kid's dignity and allowed them a way to learn a lesson. What I got taught out of the "we're gonna stand here until one of you confesses" situation is how to be devious and how to get revenge. Life lessons I didn't need to learn.
Story Two: Anyone else think that the only reason OP never heard from lawyers is because the nutjobs actually did try and got laughed out of every law office they went to?
I was thinking the same thing, and tbh if they did contact an attorney shouldn't he/she have contacted the police. These crazy AHs are a danger to OP and her baby. You don't dismiss this type of crazy!
Story 2: if step aunt was involved in wanting to “adopt” OP’s baby, I hope step aunt never has kids, biological or adopted. As someone who tried to get pregnant for 4 years and suffering a few miscarriages, I understand wanting a child and feeling hurt when your friends are having kids but you aren’t. However there’s a line you don’t cross. When you resort to demanding others’ children or other immature acts, good thing you can’t have kids. You shouldn’t be a parent in the first place.
Not only that, but a 25 year old woman who's been married for two years is suddenly called a "child" who is single & dirt poor, just because they want to steal her child. They were scum bags.
Story2: These people are completely insane and dangerous for believing OP is a child, wasn’t married, and agreed to give up her baby to people who treated her like scum. OP was justified.
#1 story. one can see that the em thought that all waitresses are prostitutes. Sounds like a ex bil of mine. Who did something similar at the restaurant my man worked at, at the time. #2 Attempted kidnapping. The S-GPs totally blew off the OP's age and her informing them that she IS married. And was of age to raise her kid. #3 What kind of a father assumes that only a gal can plug a toilet that bad? I noticed that he didn't question the OP's brother on it. #4 That sperm donor should never have been anywhere near young girls. The no locking of the doors is a MAJOR red flag on that.
In Story 1 she would’ve been picking her teeth off the floor if she was assaulting my staff No conversation you are being physically thrown out and the cops would be called, Why even talk to these people
First story, so according to Karen all diner staff are technically lap dancers? Is that what I'm getting from this? Like does she think the term full service is at face value because that will get you put in jail😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When my mom was a school bus driver, an obnoxious kid who got busted for changing seats while the bus was moving tried to ‘sweet talk’ his way out of trouble and said to my mom ‘Why are you being so mean to me, everyone loves kids with blonde hair and blue eyes’ but my mom told him ‘Not true because I love kids with brown hair and brown eyes’ (like me and my brother) and he took offense to that.😂😂
@@aduckofsomesort Either your new to TH-cam, and probably the Internet, too, or else you would know they don't like certain words. If you are still confused by it, should probably invest in a history book
@@AlexOvTheAbyss my family immigrated to America from Germany during World War II. What I am saying is that your comment can be misconstrued in multiple ways that you didn’t mean. When you could have said something, without TH-cam bad words TM, that is still clear and concise.
@@AlexOvTheAbyss ALSO you know there’s a lot more race purists and other racists out there than neos right? The originals of the Neos were far from the first and far from the last to have those beliefs.
Story the first - In my mind, I imagine that the boy didn't tell his mother the waitress was cute, but she overheard him say it to his friends. He must have been SOOOO embarrassed. I don't think he'll turn out like her. Sometimes, our parents teach us what NOT to do by example. 😼 Story the second - I'm sure "Step Granny" did as she threatened but was told that she had no right to take the baby and no lawyer would take the case. 😼 Story the third - Is this boot camp discipline considered mental or emotional torture? 😾 Story the fourth - I'm glad this pri... person is where he belongs. If he did this to visitors, who knows what he did to his own daughter. I hope he hade a fun time in jail. 😾 Good stories. 😺 =^..^=
Story one: if my mom did that I’d be petrified. I don’t tell my mom if I think employees in a store are pretty cause I know my mom she’ll think she’s “helping” by just blurting to them that I think they’re pretty. To my embarrassment and silence.
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Story one.... Karen should get a charge for Assaulting a Minor! 😡
Sue her for the bill and damages! 😮
Also, as soon as the wine went into OP's face, the FIRST instruction to the staff should have been "Call the cops!" I don't get this 'trying to de-escalate' with people who are obviously psychotic!
Not just child abuse. That's also a sexual assault charge.
@@Jim-the-Engineer Yep, OP is utterly useless!!!! I can't believe OP let the birthday boy back in.
Worse, in some areas that might well meet the criteria for sexual assault.
Dont forget sexual harassment of a minor.
My granddaughter is 15 and I told her that the moment a customer puts their hands on her she is to call the police. No matter what the cowardly manager says this is assault on a minor.
Story 3: That is literally (and legally) *actual child abuse.* That father needed to be reported to the police and/or CPS. Several of the things he did were actually illegal to do even to adults, let alone children. The last part about demanding that they take off their underwear for "inspection" could even be classified as *sexual assault of a minor.*
Absolutely. He used the clogged toilet as an excuse to sadistically violate his own daughters.
Not to mention that his behaviour makes him a p*phile
Well like she said it happened years ago and if it was let say 25 or 30 odd year ago. Then thess boomers thought what they did to their kids was their right like as if we are their damn property. I still cring to this day when i hear the phrase i helped brought you into this world and i can take you out just as well. Smh
It can be easily seen as Sexual harassment, and sexual exploitation of a minor since he demanded her underwear or be punished.
All of my red flags went up at once
Story 4: Him being a pred explained everything, he wanted to walk in on someone not covered enough, and while that apparently never happened in this particular incident, OP was lucky enough to catch him looking through underwear and set off a chain reaction that ended in divorce, jail, and restraining orders, and also the registry if that can happen
A vast majority of child abductions are by family members, so to hear those people demanding her newborn would for sure trigger protective paranoid instincts.
It happened to me when I had twins, I wasn't married and almost 20. Next daughter was born over 3 years later. I developed blood clots, I was in intensive care . At that time I was married. My cousin and older sister tried to get my twins, because he wasn't their father, and Dr wasn't sure I'd make it.
Like “parents” that lost custody because of their entitlement
@@kurayamiangelofdeath6255 Or because they posed a danger to the child
@@sylviajones6745What happened? Did your husband eventually adopt them to prevent any further action? Did it even get to court?
@@Mew_Mokuba_Akari , no they backed down once he told them that he wasn't going to give them to the cousins or any family members. You'd think they would be worried about my health and help instead of doing stuff to upset me. I don't know..... they ended up doing shots to help themselves get pregnant
Finally left me alone, thank God. Tyvm
I appreciate the concern.
Story 4 I’ve heard on other channels. Apparently, after OP’s friend’s dad got divorced and was served with jail time, a few of OP’s friends got restraining orders put on him, few of them had to seek therapy and another got a therapy dog.
Oh those poor girls! So glad that perv is in jail and has restraining orders. That’s sick what he was doing.
And the Wife was blind to it all until it happened to OP....sheesh.
@@JadenYukifan28 Actually you be surprised how some couples can keep secrets from their partner. There was this one story of a husband who was living a double life with another woman. Children and all.
Bro I've heard this story from Rslash and I still shudder at it to this day
Story 3: That Dad is a psycho. The brother likely clogged the toilet and the "blood" (if it was blood) could easily have been from him tearing something while going. It happens when people are super constipated. But does he check the son's pants? No. Cos the dad is a psycho misogynist. I hope at the time OP told someone (mom, other relatives, etc.) about this abuse and now I hope OP is as far away from that man as possible.
Fr if only the original poster didn't comply
Psycho is not the right word
even if the bathroom clogged and left for a while, since poop is brown it desintegrates and it becomes reddish, i once thought i peed blood but the bathroom was just clogged with old poop
@@aidenhughes2472Right. It’s “pedo.”
He could have lost blood, an early cancer sign. Dumba.
Story 1 - It wasn’t even BB’s birthday!
Story 2 - I really hope Step Grandmother did record the call so that any lawyer she played it to would know that she is a basket case.
Also makes it easier when OP files that no contact order.
Story 1: ma'am, this isn't that sort of establishment. And if it was, your son would not be allowed in here.
I was thinking along the same line, like wait until he is old enough and take him somewhere for a lap dance. She is probably too cheap to pay for that though, when she thought she could force a waitress at a regular place to do it for free.
Exactly what I said. "We don't give lap dances here, lady. And especially not to minors."
@@kitarrah1422 I would respond with "ma'am, this isn't a strip club, we don't pay our employees to dance on customers' laps. Also, isn't he underage??" passive aggressive, baby!
Story 3: CALL CPS!!! THE POLICE!! ANYBODY!!!
SHAME ON HIM FOR DOING IT TO HIS OWN DAUGHTERS!!
Edit: Story 4-glad that perv’s in jail.
yeah, forcing two underage girls to take off their clothes is disgusting, no matter the context!
That "dad" that did that to his daughters, is a sick pos. He's not "crazy". He's just a pos.
Sadly, the next story had an even creepier father.
Story 1: sexual harassment, verbal abuse, assault & sexual assault. That woman should be in jail and that manager should have interrupted much sooner
Yeah, if someone told my kid locking the door while they showered was against the rules of his house my kid wouldn't go to that house anymore.
For the Karen who assaulted the waitress, police need to be called & charges laid. Assault on the waitress, assault on the manager for the wine, property damage for the glasses, harassment, & theft for not paying. Also, trespassing if she refuses to leave.
Story 2: Idk why OP kept saying “visit” when it’s so painfully obvious they were trying to straight-up STEAL her baby.
Probably to clarify to those guys that she's not giving up custody?
Yes!! It made me annoyed too. Like stop saying visit and start saying "not letting you steal my baby"
They wanted her to sign custody papers? For what? So they can say she signed over custody of her 2 week old? She told them that she was married but they only heard what they wanted to hear? She was a young, poor, unwed mother. They're not related by blood so they are nothing to her, block them, change your phone number, try to get a restraining order and move just in case they know your address. Be careful when crazy is involved.
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Clogged Toilet Story: I REALLY hope OP eventually called CPS on their Demented Father!
I would have...
When I was 8 months pregnant (15 years ago) my husband's alcoholic Aunt cornered me in the kitchen and said "I should drive you out in the woods, cut you open, and take that baby as my own. You'll just ruin it." His family now calls us "petty" and "acting like children" because we refuse to go to any family function where she is present. They say we should "Get over it, she was drunk, she didn't mean it." (important background info, this same woman once set her own son on fire, on purpose, because he took too long to get back from the store)
That's the kind of woman who goes for a walk in the woods and mysteriously disappears, IYKWIM.
OMFG! Please tell me she was punished or something for burning his child! Poor kiddo!😢
Your aunt needs serious help
@@alfredogm4148 Nope, nothing ever happened to her. The family covered it up like they do everything else that shows who they really are. As it is, we are still considered the family outcasts because we refuse to accept her behavior.
@@vorpalalice82 I'm so sad to hear that, but well, it happens in all families even if it's sad to admit it:(
That third story was pure abuse. That's not even entitled.
I'm surprised that no one suspected that it might have been the brother's blood....
Thanks was coming to say this
Abuse tinged with sexually. The father was a creeper.
@@jeanettewaverly2590 Agreed, judging by how his now-exwife reacted, he may have done it before.
@@JadenYukifan28 I think that was the fourth story
Story 1 lady should have gotten 2 counts of assault one on a minor
Along with property damage and two counts of attempted sexual assault of a minor (for both the waitress and her own son).
Actually, since she made body contact it should be battery and since she restricted the waitress movement by grabbing her charges for wrongful imprisonment should be slapped on.
@@DaemonwarriorJulius What kind of mother teaches her 17 year old son he's entitled to some random waitress' body?! This is not a strip club and he has not paid for a lap dance. He's gonna have screwed up views of women if THIS is what his mother tries to instill in him. He has zero right to that girl's body. No means no. I'm just disgusted.
Last story: The shower incident alone and my dad would have been over to that house and ready to hand out an ass-whooping.
Or all the dads could provide alibis for each other and the perv could have ended up dead somewhere.
OP in story 1 just told her worker to go back after being told that the argument was about her being sexually harassed and THEN the employee was assaulted. OP should’ve nipped that in the bud immediately.
OP explained why he did it. Since he wasn't there to witness it himself, he wanted to make sure, that nobody was exaggerating or overreacting.
He should've called the cops on Karen, though...
He heard it, that should’ve been enough. Just standard dismissal of the employee’s safety that needlessly escalated.
@@nathanhinman9069 He said he heard an argument, not what it was about.
@@fluidwolf and didn’t do a damn thing about it after a report of sexual harassment by his employee. Yet another manager who couldn’t get of their ass until shit hit the fan.
@@fluidwolf
OP stated that the waitress reported "customer requested waitress sit on customer's lap, and refused."
She should have been immediately reassigned/removed from that situation.
Story two.... Those Step Grand Parents are mega-toxic AHs! 😱
Story 3 was also a predator story. That’s an arrestable offense in my book.
First story:I feel if karen was convicted she might end up in a sex offender register list.
Nah. She wasn’t thinking anything logical (as Karens often do).
OP should have told her “this is a family restaurant not the red light district. And if you continue to harass my waitress the cops will be called and you’ll be trespassed and charged will be filed.”
Yeah ya see hooters doesn’t allow that either.
@@aduckofsomesort i figured that.
I wouldn’t say that just because it would probably embarrass the poor waitress.
The toilet issue triggered a memory. I was in high school a long time ago and someone used my dad's razor and didn't clean it . He went after me, accusing me of using it and not cleaning it. It was not me, I had my own. I was one of six siblings. He kept yelling that I was lying about it, and although that time I didn't get hit, I was punished for something I didn't do. Being the oldest, I got the brunt of most of the punishments.
Are you NC with him?
Story 2. Why would anyone stay on a call with evil, crazy people who has always made it known that they hate you? And this call had to be at least 30 minutes! It's a phone call! You are free to hang up and block them! Why would any one subject themselves to a Physic Vampire trying to inflict emotional damage on you? Hang Up The Phone! Block Her Number! Simple.
Story 3. And OP still calls this person her Father? He would be my Late Father, because he would be Dead to me.
This. You can be too nice and too polite. Sometimes you have to be rude for your own peace.
Story 4: I heard this story before, and listening to that makes my skin crawl, and I'm a guy! A "no locked doors" policy is already a massive red flag, and the fact that this creep tried to pin OP as the villain for his own actions? I am glad this creep is finally behind bars, and after what happened, being slapped with FIVE restraining orders should tell you enough.
His guilt @$$ will be ridden every day.
The daughters of the third story were so strong! I can't even remember the number of times I urinated myself when being yelled at like that by my father... I hope they are both safe and in a better place, both physically and mentally.
Last story. Most violent sexual predators start off with stealing underwear. Also I'd NEVER let my kids stay at someone's house who had a "No locked door" policy for the BATHROOM.
Exactly. That "dad" is clearly a sex predator who doesn't deserve to be around ANY woman or girl!
I truly hope op and her sister from story 3 are safe and away from that monster and potential pedo
Story 1: Does the restaurant have cameras? OP is being ridiculously tolerant of SEXUAL BATTERY of a MINOR. If I had been there at least one person would have been arrested. OP did NOT PROTECT the MINOR WAITRESS from the battery. Instead, he acted like a Karen when he brushed off the situation, just being concerned about a few broken glasses, when he should have protected the minor waitress after the initial report, and showed appropriate concern about her mental and physical health after the battery. OP failed as a man and manager.
Story 2: Another too-tolerant OP. Hang up at the first hint of insanity! Because you stayed on the phone, YOU should have recorded the call and made a police report about their threats.
Story 3: OP, did you ever report the abuse? He should never be allowed to supervise or be alone with children.
Story 4: FINALLY a pervert goes to prison!
Story #1: worst manager ever: 1}The waitress has trouble with an EM, he brushes her of because maybe the EM was joking 2} the waitress gets assaulted and he wants to 'hear the EM's side of the story, because why? he saw the girl get assaulted.3} the EM curses at him, assaults him, refuses to pay and leaves and he still doesn't call the police?
Doormats.
Fr OP acting like he’s the best employee/ manager and kinda snitched on himself for being a terrible one
💯Came her to say exactly this!
You are prejudiced. You only want to hear one side of the story and condemn the other side right away.
Don't you people hear other stories where the OP was manhandled by police or manager right away because he was a big man and the Karen side was a small old woman or girl? That they don't ask what happened first? And you cursed the police or manager for that? Do that ring a bell in your heads?
OP is right, he had to hear both side of the story. Then he decided. That's an adult thing to do.
@gorilladisco9108
No.
When the waitress went to her supervisor saying she was uncomfortable with the situation, she should have been moved out of that situation immediately, no matter if it was "just a joke" or not. Sexual harassment is not something to tolerate for any reason. That supervisor failed miserably.
Shame on OP In story 1. The police should have been called immediately and Karen should have been arrested for s*x***L assault!
Story 2: OP does not owe her infertile step aunt (I'm guessing that's what the grandparents meant) any children. In fact, separating the baby from OP might just cause more damage in the long run. Glad that OP cut contact, because those demands just don't work
This grandma is ready to go after those crazy people with her frying pan!
Wait, I'll go with you!!!
I'll bring the roling pin. It will hurt more.
No airline would ever take a 2 week old infant without a parent
Story 1: i’m trying to figure out what OP is waiting for? That was a teenager being sexually harassed by some old woman for her son’s amusement, if that’s not a reason to call the cops I don’t know what is.
Story 3 was not entitlement. Thats creepy af and he needs to be locked up.
Story 1 was also disgusting he the mother needs to be locked up for assulting a minor. Both the waitress and her son by trying to force her onto him
On the next to the last story, op your CRAZY dad should be in PRISON.
Story 3: I had my mom's husband at the time come barging into the living room to yell at me while I was on the couch. Over what? A small container of garlic butter in the fridge. That my mom had made. These men are all about control and dominance.
Manager talked too much to the birthday mom/Karen. Once she demanded to talk to the owner and refused to back down just keep her distracted while you call the cops. That was way too much conversation. As nearly every restaurant nowadays has cameras all over their dining areas just showing the cops the footage will be all you need to resolve the issue. Don't let your ego fool you into thinking you're some awesome verbal judo master. Prioritize the workforce instead and get that awful wretch of a "mother" hauled off in cuffs for assaulting staff. Let the judge make her pay you.
3rd story-CPS NEEDS to be CALLED...emotional abuse!!!😬😡🤬
Pretty sure both withholding food & forcing someone to show you their underwear count as more than emotional abuse.
@@starrywizdom both of those are forms of psychological torture, actually.
Story One: When said Karen "She's here to serve us!" it must have taken everything in OP's power not to say, "SERVE YOU FOOD! THIS IS A RESTURANT NOT A BROTHEL & BOTH HER AND YOUR CHILD ARE UNDER 18!" He then SHOULD have called the cops!
I am ao disappointed in OP in the 1st story. Regardless of Karen not paying the bill, her causing glasses to get broken or even throwing the wine in his face he should have already called the cops due to the harassment of the waitress by the Karen. Not to mention as soon as the waitress said the Karen tried to make her sit on the son's lap the waitress shouldn't have had to go back to the table. This is just ridiculous. Even if OP thought it may have been a joke initially, the waitress was clearly uncomfortable & he should've handled this whole situation completely different
Exactly! The moment she said she was uncomfortable she should have been reassigned/removed from the situation.
Unacceptable behavior from the manager.
Why don't people ever call the cops.
They probably don't wanna deal with the legal stuff that comes with pressing charges, like going to court, and others are just passive and want things to be over.
I agree. Mother would have been arrested for not paying the bill.
Lots of cops don't even do anything, just call everything a "civil matter" and leave.
@@LilChuunosuke When they're not busy being criminals themselves.
@@LilChuunosukenot when it involves the assault and sexual assault of multiple children by an adult. Adult on adult and child on child may be dismissed but usually adult on child is not.
Story 4 : honestly there is no reason for no locked doors when there are teenagers around. Especially kids from other families.
Final Story - Serves that nasty pervert right. I feel bad for OP’s friend and her mother who found out that the guy’s a creepy underwear thief.
People ask me why don’t work as a manger In hospitality anymore. This is why. Shit like this wears you down. I hit my limit
As much as I love your stories, it does frustrate me how sickly entitled these types of people are
Story 1: If I was the birthday boy I would wish for the Karen Mom to go no contact with me for embarrassing me. Seriously I would pay for the bill/damage on principle to show I not like her.
Story 1: Karen committed 1) Assault of a Minor Child, 2) Attempted Sexual Performance of a Minor Child (attempting to force a child to give her son a lap dance) and 3) Theft.
Story 4: I really hope that the friend was never SA'd as that can happen in situations like this. Hopefully the guy was dealt with accordingly in prison.
Story 3: I almost guarantee the father is the one that clogged the toilet and he just wanted to blame his daughters or it was the brother and he was probably old enough and big enough to beat his dad if he got in his face
Story 3, that Dad is sick and that was straight up abuse. Wow.
Cops should have been called on story 1 and Karen should have been perp walked
Story 2: Of course nothing came of it. Any sane person/lawyer looking at this case would immediately know it's going nowhere fast.
They basically tried to steal a baby that had F all to do with them.
Insane doesn't even begin to describe it.
story 1, that manager is f-ed up. a customer tells a young staff to sit on her sons lap and just says to ignore it?! and then later when the girl is assaulted by the karen is told to go back to work?! are you kidding me?! and didn't immediately kick them out or call the cops?!?!?!?!?!?! i hope that girl sued both the karen AND reported the manager because wtf
My thoughts exactly. That one blew me away.
I was told that a male relative went way beyond “no locked doors”. His two kids ,M & F, never had doors to their bedrooms. That one of the kids first had a bedroom door when she went to college.
Story 1 I'm infuriated the manager did not call the police immediately as it seems the waitress was underage and she was assaulting her and attempting to sexually assault her by putting her in a male lap of which she wanted no part.
In the final story, a sane person would understand bathrooms being locked when occupied
Story 1: I don't get it. As soon as he saw the woman grabbing the waitress, he should have called police. She assaulted two people and destroyed the restaurant's property. Like... what?
Story 3: Pretty sure there was no mom in the picture, as Op/her insane father said that Op and her sister were the only people in the house to have periods. Though I suppose the mtoher could have been post menopause.
There are some outright deranged people out there, good lord with this episode...
I would NOT have told a 17 year old waitress who had just been harassed and assaulted under my management, "that's ok, just clean it up"...if at all possible, I would have had her go ask one of my bussers to come help so she was away from the problem.
My head was spinning when the manager told her to ignore it and continue serving them.
"They made you uncomfortable? No worries, I'll cover the table from here on out. You go [perform other task away from the situation.]"
Story 4: that’s not even entitled at all it’s straight up wild creep behavior…
Story #2 right after she made her intentions clear and going to involve lawyers I would have said "Try me!" Then hung up!
That last story... Nightmare scenario. I've been absolutely creeped out by friends dad's before, but luckily, nothing even remotely like this ever happened.
The last story is exactly why I won’t let my children do sleepovers. You just don’t know people.
If I remember correctly, the second story has updates. As in attempted kidnapping and suing for custody. So the OP was justified in her paranoia
Okay, story one. Mom grabs waitress and wrestles her to try and sit on her son's lap. That's assault and potentially SA against both the waitress and her own son. She broke glasses in the process of wrestling the waitress around, that is destruction of property. She then threw a glass of wine in the managers face, there's more assault. Then refused to pay her bill or for the glasses she broke, which is theft. So the question. Why were the cops not called? Why weren't charges pressed on her? Considering they sent her a bill which she still refuses to pay, why haven't they sent the police over to deal with her? Its nice that the son is mature, but that doesn't excuse letting her get away with it. Maybe a few months in the cooler will give her some proper perspective on how to behave towards waitstaff.
The first story: Had I been OP, as soon as that psycho entitled mother threw her drink, I would have thrown hands. Also, her refusal to pay constitutes theft of services. Not to mention causing a disturbance, sexual harassment and just a general liability to the business, there's got to be some other arrestable offcences in there somewhere. I sure hope the restaurant has CCTV.
Just my opinion; OP was more worried about the bottom line than employees.
@@seancasey8640That's what it sounded like to me. Most managers or business owners spend too much time kowtowing to every Tom, Dick and Karen who waltz through their doors. The woman in this story, for example, is a liability, and should have been treated as such. In the very least, she should have been banned from the property along with being formally trespassed by police up to and including facing criminal charges for all of her insane behavior.
Last story was the only one with real justice. Every other story should have ended with handcuffs and charges
Karen in story 1 should be charged with = Assault, assault and battery, s3xual assault and harrasment. Also needs to pay for all things that broke because of her.
The thing about babies is sometimes their hair and eye color change. My dad was born with white blonde hair that turned jet black after a few years. Just love your baby no matter what they look like. All babies are precious. Stop focusing on features that you think mean anything.
Yep. I’m of Russian descent, and my dad and his siblings, and I, were blond(e) as small children. I was shocked when I saw a picture of my father as maybe 6-7 years old, and he was blond. As an adult, his hair was very dark brown, almost pure black. I have medium brown hair. My hair went dark when I was 7 or 8 years old. I guess it’s a common thing among Slavic people.
If your baby has two eyes, two ears, one nose, & one mouth, & they all function more or less normally, thank the Lord & love that baby!
Entitled isn't a strong enough description for the psychos and predators in this episode. 😡
Story one: OP should have reacted the first time his waitress told him about her situation, it´s just not okay to ask/harass a waitress to sit on someones lap.... she´s not an "escort-girl" .... and that 17-year old "boy"... he came in later, apologiesed and everything was fine??? This little ***** should have told his mum to stop that nonsense when it happened and NOT just sitting there... or was he tied and gagged at his birthday so he couldn´t react? ....
Story 3: yeah... he stopped because he didnt want witnesses.
No other reason.
Story 2: I absolutely agree with her not being paranoid. This is how the mayority of child kidnappings happend. Family members stealings the children of other family members.
Yeah, that manager dropped the ball. Instead of trying to reason with her, he should have called the cops and had s3x assault charges filed.
Story 3 reminded me of being lined up with my siblings and getting grilled to confess for some wrongdoing or other and then confessing out of personal shame but no guilt because I had not done the thing.
Looking back, I realize its a pretty universal thing for teenagers to lie to their parents, but some parents deal with it better than others. I like reading stories of parents who adapted to situations like that in a creative way instead of angry, a way that didn't insult the kid's dignity and allowed them a way to learn a lesson.
What I got taught out of the "we're gonna stand here until one of you confesses" situation is how to be devious and how to get revenge. Life lessons I didn't need to learn.
Story 2: I wouldn't even send them a picture. They would use her daughter to force her to obey
Story 1: the manager dropped the ball and failed to stand up for and protect his server.
Failed miserably.
Story #1 - Waitress /= lapdancer
Story Two: Anyone else think that the only reason OP never heard from lawyers is because the nutjobs actually did try and got laughed out of every law office they went to?
I was thinking the same thing, and tbh if they did contact an attorney shouldn't he/she have contacted the police. These crazy AHs are a danger to OP and her baby. You don't dismiss this type of crazy!
Send step grandparents a cease and desist letter and warn them never to bother you again
Story 2: if step aunt was involved in wanting to “adopt” OP’s baby, I hope step aunt never has kids, biological or adopted. As someone who tried to get pregnant for 4 years and suffering a few miscarriages, I understand wanting a child and feeling hurt when your friends are having kids but you aren’t. However there’s a line you don’t cross. When you resort to demanding others’ children or other immature acts, good thing you can’t have kids. You shouldn’t be a parent in the first place.
The step grandparents are insane and delusional! Wow!
don't forget the step-aunt, she's as looney as her parents
Story #1-- Sexual harassment, pure and simple.
2nd story, as soon as she said give my baby I would behave laughed and told her to F off!
Story 1 - I hope they filed charges against that Karen mom and blacklisted her.
No other person deserves to have someone else's baby.
Story 2 - "We want to kidnap your baby so do you think you can send her to us first class and sign over all rights, kay thanks bye!!!"
WTF!
Not only that, but a 25 year old woman who's been married for two years is suddenly called a "child" who is single & dirt poor, just because they want to steal her child. They were scum bags.
and to crazy that was a reasonable ask....
Story2: These people are completely insane and dangerous for believing OP is a child, wasn’t married, and agreed to give up her baby to people who treated her like scum. OP was justified.
#1 story. one can see that the em thought that all waitresses are prostitutes. Sounds like a ex bil of mine. Who did something similar at the restaurant my man worked at, at the time.
#2 Attempted kidnapping. The S-GPs totally blew off the OP's age and her informing them that she IS married. And was of age to raise her kid.
#3 What kind of a father assumes that only a gal can plug a toilet that bad? I noticed that he didn't question the OP's brother on it.
#4 That sperm donor should never have been anywhere near young girls. The no locking of the doors is a MAJOR red flag on that.
In Story 1 she would’ve been picking her teeth off the floor if she was assaulting my staff No conversation you are being physically thrown out and the cops would be called, Why even talk to these people
First story, so according to Karen all diner staff are technically lap dancers? Is that what I'm getting from this? Like does she think the term full service is at face value because that will get you put in jail😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Story 2: Anyone else hear someone always wanting a "blonde hair, blue eyed child" and think of... erm... late 1930's Germany? 👀
When my mom was a school bus driver, an obnoxious kid who got busted for changing seats while the bus was moving tried to ‘sweet talk’ his way out of trouble and said to my mom ‘Why are you being so mean to me, everyone loves kids with blonde hair and blue eyes’ but my mom told him ‘Not true because I love kids with brown hair and brown eyes’ (like me and my brother) and he took offense to that.😂😂
Why don’t you just say what you mean instead of saying something that could be interpreted in a bunch of different ways.
@@aduckofsomesort Either your new to TH-cam, and probably the Internet, too, or else you would know they don't like certain words. If you are still confused by it, should probably invest in a history book
@@AlexOvTheAbyss my family immigrated to America from Germany during World War II. What I am saying is that your comment can be misconstrued in multiple ways that you didn’t mean. When you could have said something, without TH-cam bad words TM, that is still clear and concise.
@@AlexOvTheAbyss ALSO you know there’s a lot more race purists and other racists out there than neos right? The originals of the Neos were far from the first and far from the last to have those beliefs.
Story 3 - My mom would’ve thrown that AH OUT OF THE HOUSE if he did that to me, and then divorced him.
Story the first - In my mind, I imagine that the boy didn't tell his mother the waitress was cute, but she overheard him say it to his friends. He must have been SOOOO embarrassed. I don't think he'll turn out like her. Sometimes, our parents teach us what NOT to do by example. 😼
Story the second - I'm sure "Step Granny" did as she threatened but was told that she had no right to take the baby and no lawyer would take the case. 😼
Story the third - Is this boot camp discipline considered mental or emotional torture? 😾
Story the fourth - I'm glad this pri... person is where he belongs. If he did this to visitors, who knows what he did to his own daughter. I hope he hade a fun time in jail. 😾
Good stories. 😺 =^..^=
Story one: if my mom did that I’d be petrified. I don’t tell my mom if I think employees in a store are pretty cause I know my mom she’ll think she’s “helping” by just blurting to them that I think they’re pretty. To my embarrassment and silence.
Many newborns will have blue eyes. Almost all my kids and grandkids had blue eyes, but only one has them now.
If the step grand latests try to get theba y by calling again, op should get a RO against them.