Chevy Equinox: Battery Draw- Fixed With Service Info
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I bring you along as I have a look at a Chevy Equinox that came in with a customer complaint that the battery would die after sitting for about 3 weeks. It is a good thing to stick to your diagnostic plan (mostly haha) that lead us to a TSB that had the same symptoms as our car. Let's see if we can fix it. -Enjoy!
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I just want to thank you eric for all the videos you have posted and all the lessons you have taught. From mostly what I learned watching you I was able to properly diagnose my cars abs module being faulty rather than throwing wheel bearings at it. Saved me tons of money and more importantly time. What you do makes a difference so again. Thank you.
wow, good job, it is hard to diagnose modules since they can be intermittent at times. Unless it was a complete dead module, then checking power and grounds and still no com after data wire integrity check, then there is nothing else but the module itself.
@@scientist100 i had communication but it had a right rear speed sensor circuit fault. I fould some corroded wires and patched them up but still had the code. I used my meter to verify the signal was making it to the module and it was. I could also see the signal on my scanner so i sent it in to be repair and sure enough it was fixed after the reinstall.
Like the ghost over lay . It was nice touch. Watching it down load at the bottom of the screen gave me PONG back flashes. Without that service info that could of taken awhile. Great video as always.
I particularly enjoyed this video with the 2011 equinox. Your diagnostics are just awesome. I’ve been retired now for almost 15 years so much my onboard data has far surpassed its expiration date! Before I retired I worked in GM Service Operations on the Equinox while it was in preproduction. I also worked on Tracker, both of which were built at GM/Suzuki joint venture plant CAMI, in Ingersoll Ontario. The group I worked with was responsible for initiating a lot of the tech bulletins like you were working with. You said that the lack of inter communication makes you want to jump off a bridge. Me too. However, the first priority was always to get the information out to the dealerships/service repair industry where it would be most useful. I think all of your analysis was spot on and reprogramming the hvac module was the right thing to do. It will be interesting to watch this work out. I hope the draw is corrected, and I hope you get some positive feedback from this customer. Again, I love your channel and will look forward to future videos, and I promise to binge watch all your stuff. Oh, I could tell you stories … OMG.
Best regards from under the bridge!
That's awesome!
BTW, I do specialize on the First Gen Equinox here in Mexico. I did an LX Swap on my 2005 Equinox (LX9 3500 out of a 2005 Malibu, it was Plug and Play).
I want to ask this: I have a client that I will diagnose her 2005 Equinox. It has a 2005 VIN, but it has the E38 ECM, and almost everything from the 2007-2009 Equinox instead of the 2005-2006 with the P05.
Does Pre-production cars can get to normal customers?
Hope to read your reply!!
Greetings from Guadalajara!
@@Alpha06R Hello! I’m sorry I can’t answer the specific question you asked but I can tell you that pre-production cars, which are the first dozen or so off assembly line, do not get sold. Normal vin codes on the units, 000001 to whatever the determined number of preproduction is. They get used around the plant for transportation and for service activities or investigations until the next years preproduction models are built. The preproduction models eventually are scrapped, usually crushed. I’ve taken my name to the crusher myself to make sure it happens. I actually took one preproduction unit to GM’s crash test facility for an investigation of a customer service concern. It was really cool to make it happen and the video helped me immensely to make a production change. Having the car available to use was great. No one wants to crash a salable car.
Cheers!
Eric and lovely wife, Venessa are a blessing to us as we know Eric and you are very knowledgeable when if comes to repairing vehicles and we have learned much from you both. We want to thank you both for helping us so many times. God bless the five of you. Larry and Jean Lynch in Jupiter Florida.
You could live like a King off the GM repairs alone. God bless ‘em.
Must be why the owner reported that “it sits a lot”. 😁
Re-read the service bulletin. Step 3 says to pull the fuse AND REINSTALL. THEN check for 70ma draw. You did not reinstall before checking. It would seem that removing the power to the module did indeed reset it, and the calibration was the culprit. Fine job as always.
The average person is going to have to trust their mechanic,i like that you are willing to show us how complex these computerize cars are!
Mrs. O is one of a kind. I know you express that in so many words in these videos all the time, but wow... you are one lucky dude. Thanks for the content!
He hit the lottery!!
Daughter's response to Mr. O's hair comment was precious...
@@williamgagnonroadboxservice "Lottery" isn't even the word.
The best part was seeing the lovely Mrs O . & the handsome technician 👍🇺🇸
You're a outstanding person Eric, I enjoy your knowledge that you share. As someone who enjoying watching Automotive repair videos your in my top 5.
after watching many of your vid's i sold my 13 avalanche and bought an old 89 southern born chevy tk. not as many bells and whistles but wayyyy less to go wrong.
The bash ringing. The smash singing. The dash dinging. The The the hash slinging Slasher!!!! You crack me up Eric!! Lol
I think the update fixed the issue, especially seeing that the only other software change was back in 2010 and the service bulletin described it so accurately.
Cool video.
Love these types of videos. I’ve been a auto tech for 48 years and have learned something from everyone of your videos. Thank you.
Actually, service data did say to remove and reinstall the fuse before testing. So what you saw was exactly the behavior in the service data, the draw shouldn't have come back after re-plugging the fuse. Likely the module eventually crashes...
I’ve been watching for years , I left the field several years ago (mostly German stuff bmw and your favorite Vw) you have a great process it’s very rare these days . You work very similar to me. I would have stayed in the field if there was more like minded people in my area. You and Mrs o are living the American dream ! Thanks for great content!
Mrs. O out here singlehandedly keeping this shop going, a full kitchen, the books, the kids, She's a keeper Eric. Great content bud.
Very informative, I too have an Equinox with that body style and have been chasing the same amp draw for a year. Don't have access to service data. Looks like I'm making some calls to see who can pgm my HVAC module aside from the dealership. Thanks Eric O.
"I seen it, and I HAD to touch it!" ....That has gotten man into trouble since the beginning of time! 😆
PERFECT timing....I just finished my dinner. ICE CREAM! 3 scoops of Strawberry Ice cream with some strawberry sauce, DEZZ NUTS, add an extra scoop of DEZZ NUTZ, whip cream and 2 cherries to top it off. GREAT VIDED! Thanks Mr. O.
GM is going to make this guy a millionaire 😃
esp the equinox
an years ago gm had the best ,,but they dont make their parts anymore ,,they make junk now..ask me how i know
lol, I actually work on FAR more Fords and Nissans. Maybe just my area. :)
There's so many of them that need fixing because there were so many more of them sold. Like A Rock baby!
But it'll cost him 3 grand a year subscribing to their Techline service... Ouch.
Always nice to see Mrs.O.
Love all the videos, and as a software guy in the real world I *LOVE* the videos about module programming!! Thanks as always, Eric!!
Wow never found a TSB that was the actual problem I was working on.
My $.02, living in NE Ohio I have two vehicles that never see snow. As a suggestion to the owner, if your favorite toy is going to hibernate for the winter, put a battery tender on it.
"You're so full of Shogurt." rofl
I love a silver bullet, we bust our butts every day so much, it's nice to get one that plays nicely once in a while.
Great job on this one. It would have stumped me for sure. I learn so much from you and appreciate your hard work putting this content out there.
I wish that I could get to sleep in 10 minutes! LOL
Hope we get to see you work on that engine warranty job!!!
Other than the wiring the sunroof was installed fairly well. You know they did a decent job when you have to call and see whether or not it was installed from the factory.
Going the extra mile with the roof and service bulletin 👍
"What do you know another you Tuber" I would like this You Tuber to know that Eric is doing his best to give you of his time, talent, and undivided attention by making these videos. His moto is "If I can do it you can do it". That is a challenge he has put forth to all of us. Try to put in as much thought, time and effort into doing what he does and you to can be as confident as he is in diagnosing and fixing automotive problems. Put that same thought, time and effort into life and you will be as happy as he is too.
i like how eric confidence increases from his older videos to now
Eric. Just a helpful hint. I highly recommend whenever reprogramming a module, Put a Battery charger on the vehicle. Programming can take some time. Believe me you never want a programming event to fail due to a dead battery. Get with the program!
Recent Mazda CX5 had the same issue with the HVAC module not going to sleep. A bulletin was issued for an update of the module, with everything sub contracted nowadays maybe came outta the same factory!
It's amazing how calm you get w aftermarket.
More SMA is always 👍🏽
Yes , it sounds like that clicking noise towards the end of the video .... is your usual GM door actuator going bad and almost ready to start that rattling annoying sound.
My Impala is a pain with those things replacing them every few months , they are just cheaply made . even the original OEM piece .
Great video ,!! . .
Nice, I have not ran into this yet but I will remember. On crazy stuff like this I always check tsb’s for any tips first
love to see any videos on the new office/kitchen made for Mrs O...
love ur videos... have learned alot fromw watching your channel
Had a similar problem on a 2018 GMC Terrain with a turbo charged 2.0L I4 that was purchased new in the summer of 2018.
The CUV was owned by Municipal Government agency assigned to an elected official. Due to the Covid-19 pandemic, it wasn’t being used much and sat in a city-owned downtown parking garage.
It developed a parasitic battery drain that manifested a year after it was purchased. The CUV constantly had to be jumped started. The CUV hadn’t been driven a lot and it had about 9,000 miles on it.
The GM dealership where it was purchased from just kept replacing the battery since it was still under warranty. They replaced the battery twice. They weren’t interested in properly diagnosing the problem and repairing it.
A second GM dealership a least put in the effort to try a determine what was draining the battery. They would keep the vehicle for several weeks at a time doing parasitic drain test. After the third round of testing they concluded it was some type of radio frequency (rf) interference that was waking up the power seat module.
The problem with that was radio interference is everywhere in a downtown area of a large city with people using remotes to lock/unlock their vehicles, police/fire and municipal departments using their two way radios, etc. so that can’t be avoided. Basically, everyone’s vehicles are constantly being bombarded with rf interference.
The parasitic drain was never found, I solved the issue by getting the newly elected office holder to take the CUV home so that the vehicle would be used on a daily basis. As long as the vehicle doesn’t sit fro 2 to 3 days without being started, it able to keep the battery fully charged.
General Motors never admitted there was a problem with this brand new vehicle and everything was covered under warranty.
Good video sometimes the gremlins can get you with the battery draws. In other news I used the 3m headlight restoration kit on my 07 Hondoo my lights look like brand new and took your advice on the coating 4 ever clear made them loom like new headlights. 😂
You probably have the best shop kitchen...!
Sometimes dealerships will be aware of service bulletins like this and not do anything about it. My neighbor had this problem with a 2021 Buick and the dealership said to just charge the battery and run the vehicle every day to fix the problem. My mother in-law has the same issue with a 2018 Terrain and they told her the same thing.
Mrs O is so naturally pretty! Oh thanks for the video I lost my train of thought! 😉
Careful. My other channel was banned for saying the same thing.
@@jscott7047 🙈
recorded this on my birthday i see, by the date/time on the laptop, so thanks for the belated birthday present, lol
I'm sorry that some people don't understand that you run a business and don't have time to answer questions over the phone. I hope you find a solution
Ive had a few problem dead batteries over the years and all of them are customers who only drive the car a few times a month if that. We usually just install a battery minder on it
Mrs O is a good business partner!
Great video. And love this channel .Eric is so humble. But is a top notch tech
Excellent work! Nice job on detecting an issue with the hot/cold door. She will be back for more work.
You always close up by saying if I can do it you can do it but on this one I can't do it because I don't have the test equipment to test a 2011 Chevy Equinox to do what you did it dear sir we always love watching your videos they're by the way it's been a long time since you've done a wheel bearing removal and install .
My thought. Maybe that service letter was correct and you resolved it. Maybe when remote hvac module was powering on the heat control and that temp actuator was miscalibrated and the clicking you had us hearing was a door sticking trying to find is home. That random power maybe seeing temp and setting that blend door to it's position and not seeing it? Hard to put into words. IDK. I feel you resolved the issue.
Oo! Oo! Do a video on the plugged Equinox air tubes!!! Mine throws a PO411 when it's cold out.
BTW I get hot/cold door clicking all the time. At first I thought it was critters.
I do too much swearing when I take the AIR tubes off... The two wheel drives aren't bad but the all-wheel drive suck. You can get the tubes off without pulling the manifold but they're real pisser to do. And there's two teeny tiny ports in the head. You're setting when it's cold could be because it's actually freezing. That's relatively common if you leave your car outside. Most people that Park them indoors don't have that issue I've noticed. Very common with the Eco booms
@@SouthMainAuto Thnx Eric. The code is no big deal because it goes away. The only sucky part is if I remote start to warm up, the computer shuts off it when the code gets thrown. So I get a cold and frosty car and a MIL. Chevy Thunder!
I honestly have become more interested in the OBD 2 Problem solving and electric aspects than actual mechanic work. 🤣🤣
Love the content. Wish I knew a few more car models being from Australia we don't have many of the cars you work on.
Another educational video! Thanks for sharing, I learn something every time I watch one of your videos.
our 2021 Chevy Traverse is doing the same thing Eric
That’s experience! That’s professional! And he shared it with us! Great video, great channel, thank you Eric!
had no idea there were aftermarket sunroofs
Always love the Mrs O cameo appearance.
Love the video. An aftermarket sunroof is a great example of special lack of brilliance
Some snazzy transition effects there fella!
Rainman Ray gave you a no snow blower shout out today. Eric O needs boots up to his hips LOL 🤣
I had a Compustar remote/alarm installed in my 2012 Mustang GT which caused the same issue. In winter weather the battery would go too low to start the car after 2 days of no driving and about 4 days in the summer. After market can really mess you up.
mrs o is always appriciated
Outstanding Troubleshooting.
I learn a lot when i watch south main auto. The info is great and very interesting. Thanks for sharing your tips and tricks. May use them for my repair s at home.
HEY Eric !!
Wow Eric that was pretty comprehensive, all this because of a design flaw, no chance of the common man fixing this problem himself by the looks of it
I just ordered two of the Astro lights I got the 40 huvl and the 52 sl I had the one from the harbor freight lasted about 8 months not to bad for being in a professional shop, I just wish the old Astro had a tool truck that came to my shop I would have me a big nasty already I would have never known about Astro if not for you
Thanks for the video Eric. But now I see the attraction to Uncle Tony's Garage videos on 100% analog cars. No software updates. No modules.
Outstanding diagnastic's.....master mechanic.
I've been lied to on the internet. Not sure I'll ever recover from this Mr O
Doing the re-learn on the HVAC module to, “make sure everyone is cool.” Ha!
That sunroof looks surprisingly well installed other than the wiring. They came so close, and then fumbled. Not that I'm much of a fan of aftermarket sunroofs to begin with. Just seems like you're asking for a leak even more than a factory hole-in-the-roof,
Man, what a pain in the biscuits. Thanks so much for your videos, very informative.
Just did my blend Air door on my Equinox today. Sounds like that one is getting there soon. It was my own unit so I did the utube hack and it was super easy
The hash slinging slasher..
We thought you were cool, but now we know for sure
Come on man everybody knows SpongeBob's nemesis
So did it cure the issue? The bulletin said a consistent 70mA draw but you had an intermittent 70mA draw, admittedly the numbers fit perfectly but the wording, as in most tech docs is vauge and confusing. I'm sure if it comes back we'll see the part 2. It's nice to see a mechanic who can do the auto spark work, in the UK most make out like its a dark art. Thanks for the videos
Nice video transitions, I liked the flip timing!
Nice work. You turn around your videos quickly - just three days. Good vid as always.
Great video as usual!
Also youtubers stop calling this guy he’s trying to run a business. I know as an experienced industrial maintenance person unless you are looking at the problem and have test equipment hooked to it nobody can help over the phone usually. That’s just the way it is with modern equipment. 😎🇺🇸
When I worked on large computer systems updates gave me anxiety. Typically the update would correct all the known problems and install a whole new set of gremlins.
we bought a 2010 Equinox in 2010, we lived in CA then, it was home, My wife loved the Car, little did I know it's pretty much a fair whether automobile. We now live in the Tri cities eastern WA; this car sucks for driving in the winter, and if there is snow / ice, the accelerator shuts down to idle, the first time we experienced that was here in a snow storm, pulling out from a side street here, the thing goes to idle, and here where stuck side ways and trying to get the engine to rev up and go, with a car bearing down on my side. By the grace of GOD I got it to go. Now the car sits most of the winter in the garage; I have a 2015 black 4x Chev 1500. we use that much of the winter. Chevy sucks. I will say, I did own a 2005 GMC, that truck was awesome, run great, wish I still had one over this PU.
Your a good man Eric, like how you give it your all for your customers. Treat them right, even if they aren't always on the up and up. that makes you a mark above the mark.
For all who would read this, listen up, There are watchers; that's gospel: they see and tell, and it all goes down in the books. ??? ! every foul carless word and the like. Know the word, Jesus is that word of truth all men must known, if not, it's to go the way. Jesus is the only way to salvation, Blessings to all in Christ Jesus. amen
All I can say is quit calling Eric, I know how hard it is to find an honest mechanic, but he’s a 1 man show showing us how to fix our cars. You want to call someone, try Scotty Kilmer, lol. Honestly though another great video without the hype
Dr 'O' wins again. Excellent diag. doc!😜
Any newer car is going to have some battery draw while it's just sitting. In my opinion, FWIW, any newer car that's gonna sit for more than a week or so should have a battery tender on it.
IMO, it's not a low drain that's an issue. Any lead acid battery that's just sitting needs to be charged / topped up periodically and not just left to sit for months. Applies to older cars as well. You could pull the positive cable off the battery and still end up with a sulphated battery, given some time.
Love the vids Eric O
17:16 If your daughter had put on a set of Sunglasses, over her hair, she could have looked like Cousin It from The Addams Family! =P
Deja vu all over again! Another Chevy! Thanks Mr. O for demonstrating the process to determine the fix and implement same. Another great video. Education and humor. Plus Mrs. O makes an appearance!
Great Video Mr O Hash slaying slasher yes i seen that Episode with my kids.
If you go back and re-read the TSB (1:48), it says to pull the fuse and then reinstall it. Then the intermittent draw should be gone. And if it is gone, do the software update. So you did the right thing, just missed the remove and immediately replace step for the fuse. Seems like the module gets stuck in some kind of loop, which pulling and replacing the fuse resets it out of. Either way -- I'll bet you got the right fix. As usual. 🙂
Thanks Eric. You sure now your stuff!
Four chevy's but one junk ford lol really enjoy your video's.
Great video, but I’d love to see the warranty work on the engine (even if it’s just replacing it again); maybe get the story for why it failed again so soon.
Why 3 years later is it warranty ?
@@chadbowman8132 he probably put a jasper replacement in and they have a 3 yr warranty.
Another great teaching moment
Vehicles like this is why I drive older models.
as another example of "going the distance" your garage kitchen far exceeds Gomer Pyle's 2-burners at Wally's garage. It is complete and very suitable for your LADY! A home away from home!
I hope you get paid the correct amount by the customer and they are happy !
Not everyone understands that sometimes it's a bunch of research involved to get the correct answers and even though the engine wasn't rebuilt You did invest time and your knowledge to fix or know what needs to be done to get it fixed . I'm in my mid 50s and from when I was 18 to mid 30s a good friend of mine worked as mechanic for GM . He could have opened his own shop as he was a Hell of a mechanic and his reputation was well known by Many! His time away from his job at Chevy dealership was spent in the home garage...a lot !
My extremely long ' comment ' is to say some people Just Don't get it ..at times it's research and not much in parts ..Customer says That much $ and it was only this to fix .
I liked when he'd say to me ( not Customer) Not paying for what I did..
You're paying for what I KNOW !
He moved away and many now wish he'd stayed .
It's NOT easy finding a Excellent, Honest and Fair mechanic..if you do they become family.
I have learned much from your videos and my 04 silverado has or had issues I went straight to S.M.A. to gets answers ...correct each time !
Thank You for sharing and I hope to
Hope to get a few South Main Auto shirts soon !
Thanks for being thorough and clear!