Shiv, I just listen to these episodes over and over again as though wanting to catch up on what I had missed in life, . Keep up the good work. Few speak so well and pleasantly chiding sharply yet harmlessly. Thanks once again. You are the reason for my recent transformation, although I myself am a trained Transformation coach.
Its a joy watching you Shiv. Your ability to explain every detail in very lucid terms highlights your vast knowledge of security apparatus & establishment in India. And one more thing i like your language. Very crisp. 🙏
I have read a lot about 26/11 over the last decade and a half, from operational and tactical insights to how India's defence apparatus was caught off guard. Yet, the idea of Shiv calling 26/11 a successful operation (from terrorists perspective) and listing out the chaos that unfurled is a great insight, something which many in the top political brass are till date unwilling to accept. Those 10 men did come to take Mumbai hostage and did it for over 70 hours, and it was the heroics of our security forces that pulled them down. Had the ATS and Mumbai police resources used wisely or the MARCOS given time or the Indian army battalions stationed in Colaba called in or NSG arrived early, things would have been way different. It was great to listen to a different view on 26/11
Love the podcast. Now i am hooked on to it. Keep up the good work. Only point is Dev, you should have remembered the fallen heroes , in my view there shouldn’t be an excuse to not be prepared with those names as they ought to be respected.
Shiv, you made a passing reference to the 1993 bomb blasts and curfew. It was a regular working day, and we, Dad from Colaba and I from Cuffe Parade walked through the pointing guns through Prabhadevi on that day. It was mind numbing. I wish you could revisit sometime at least as a reference to the event. It's almost forgotten
Who gave real time footage which helped attackers operational advantage eventually boosting increased chaos? Why no mention about the biggest blunder by our so called news experts?
Completely agree with the views expressed in the podcast that retaliation isn’t an easy choice, there are so many considerations and unimaginable consequences. However, in the book, Spy Stories by Adrian Levy and Cathy Scott, there is some disturbing information that this attack was actually tipped off to the Indians by America. The insinuation was that The then dispensation were preparing to pin it on Hindu terror. Unfortunately, Kasab was caught alive and the sinister plot unravelled.
2 bonus puzzles (thank me later): 1. Please check the location of then Home Secretary of India (topmost admin boss in 26/11 like situations) and how his itinerary changed just a day before the attack. 2. Where was Pakistan's Foreign minister sitting, and how was the treatment with him.
The media should have totally put blind ..All the terrorists were given first hand information because the handlers were watching live from Pakistan...This was the biggest mistake
Would like to have listened some more operational analysis rather than it's geo politics based details. Geo politics around this it is well discussed but military operational issues and strategies inside the targets are not something discussed in public discourse and NSG report it seems it is not publicly published. So would like to have some insights on strategy and operational points.
@@blueheaven4838 can't blame bjp for it, 90s indian politics is the worst, each year govt is changing, IK gujral made RAW planted agents reveal them to pak,
You journalists should leave your lutyens elite mindset and start to call Mumbai as Mumbai मुंबई, not bombay. We Marathi people do not approve such names. Its Pune not poona, Nashik not nasik. महाराष्ट्रात रहाल तर जरा आदर बाळगा मराठीचा!
I like to call Mumbai as Bombay as I find it nostalgic. Do you have a problem. By changing a name what have you achieved. If you are educated enough to know the phrase A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Bombay was Bombay a 100 years before you were even born. A few greasy politicians changing the name for their vote bank doesn't change anything By calling Mumbai Bombay I don't become less Indian.,
And there is a big lesson to media what to show and what not to show during crisis and how it helps terrorists if media do that shit. Your own so called journalist said that he was like bhediya for that news dont be like that, be a true citizen first then you can be whatever you want
Gret podcast. Watching your podcasts from Canada. Huge fan of Shiv. Please do a podcast on Indian Special Forces.
Yet another fantastic episode! I've been listening to this podcast for a while now and love the interaction between Dev and Shiv. Kudos to you guys!
Shiv, I just listen to these episodes over and over again as though wanting to catch up on what I had missed in life, . Keep up the good work. Few speak so well and pleasantly chiding sharply yet harmlessly. Thanks once again. You are the reason for my recent transformation, although I myself am a trained Transformation coach.
Its a joy watching you Shiv. Your ability to explain every detail in very lucid terms highlights your vast knowledge of security apparatus & establishment in India. And one more thing i like your language. Very crisp. 🙏
Excellent Podcast. Another gem from Shiv Aroor
Amazing, frank, and no-nonsense insight!!
Superb podcast. Love listening to you Dev and Shiv. Its a wealth of knowledge. Please please do a podcast on the Indian special forces
I have read a lot about 26/11 over the last decade and a half, from operational and tactical insights to how India's defence apparatus was caught off guard. Yet, the idea of Shiv calling 26/11 a successful operation (from terrorists perspective) and listing out the chaos that unfurled is a great insight, something which many in the top political brass are till date unwilling to accept. Those 10 men did come to take Mumbai hostage and did it for over 70 hours, and it was the heroics of our security forces that pulled them down. Had the ATS and Mumbai police resources used wisely or the MARCOS given time or the Indian army battalions stationed in Colaba called in or NSG arrived early, things would have been way different.
It was great to listen to a different view on 26/11
Love the podcast. Now i am hooked on to it. Keep up the good work. Only point is Dev, you should have remembered the fallen heroes , in my view there shouldn’t be an excuse to not be prepared with those names as they ought to be respected.
Shiv, you made a passing reference to the 1993 bomb blasts and curfew. It was a regular working day, and we, Dad from Colaba and I from Cuffe Parade walked through the pointing guns through Prabhadevi on that day. It was mind numbing. I wish you could revisit sometime at least as a reference to the event. It's almost forgotten
Thanks for a measured and intelligent discussion. It’s rare these days.
Who gave real time footage which helped attackers operational advantage eventually boosting increased chaos? Why no mention about the biggest blunder by our so called news experts?
Hav. Gajendra Singh AShok Chakra (P) 1 Para SF and 51 SAG.. 13.6
Completely agree with the views expressed in the podcast that retaliation isn’t an easy choice, there are so many considerations and unimaginable consequences. However, in the book, Spy Stories by Adrian Levy and Cathy Scott, there is some disturbing information that this attack was actually tipped off to the Indians by America. The insinuation was that The then dispensation were preparing to pin it on Hindu terror. Unfortunately, Kasab was caught alive and the sinister plot unravelled.
Please do a podcast on New York caught off-guard...Four planes hijacked same day and hits new york ...
2 bonus puzzles (thank me later):
1. Please check the location of then Home Secretary of India (topmost admin boss in 26/11 like situations) and how his itinerary changed just a day before the attack.
2. Where was Pakistan's Foreign minister sitting, and how was the treatment with him.
The media should have totally put blind ..All the terrorists were given first hand information because the handlers were watching live from Pakistan...This was the biggest mistake
NSG Gajendra Singh not Naresh
13.7 min Hav Gajender Singh
Yep missed his mention
To be fair shiv even Marcos and nsg were not trained in cqb at that time.. now they do it extensively due to the 26/11
Irony of this podcast is, it is happening on the day India saw it's first bomb blast for a long long time. 😞
Would like to have listened some more operational analysis rather than it's geo politics based details. Geo politics around this it is well discussed but military operational issues and strategies inside the targets are not something discussed in public discourse and NSG report it seems it is not publicly published. So would like to have some insights on strategy and operational points.
Blood boils ….. and congress how they are still a political party in India!
Remember Kargil happened under BJP too. However as an Indian I criticise the government of the day for the lack of intelligence
@@blueheaven4838 can't blame bjp for it, 90s indian politics is the worst, each year govt is changing, IK gujral made RAW planted agents reveal them to pak,
You journalists should leave your lutyens elite mindset and start to call Mumbai as Mumbai मुंबई, not bombay. We Marathi people do not approve such names. Its Pune not poona, Nashik not nasik. महाराष्ट्रात रहाल तर जरा आदर बाळगा मराठीचा!
I like to call Mumbai as Bombay as I find it nostalgic. Do you have a problem. By changing a name what have you achieved. If you are educated enough to know the phrase A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Bombay was Bombay a 100 years before you were even born. A few greasy politicians changing the name for their vote bank doesn't change anything
By calling Mumbai Bombay I don't become less Indian.,
And there is a big lesson to media what to show and what not to show during crisis and how it helps terrorists if media do that shit. Your own so called journalist said that he was like bhediya for that news dont be like that, be a true citizen first then you can be whatever you want