Kurt, one mistake you made is calling the birds in constantly without putting food in the loft ... that’s an issue because the birds will no longer associate the whistle with “feed” 100% of the time. You need to ensure that EVERY single time you call the birds in, you at least pour some seed even if it’s just a very tiny amount of seeds
Try letting them all out from the trap door & put a tray with water on the landing board so they can have a bath so once they all wet they wont over fly Let them hang out on the landing board/roof for awhile,then call them in... see how they go
They won’t leave 😂. It’s good for them to go out and fly, u have the upper hand. Just whistle and pour food where they usually eat. No need for u to worry. Especially if they haven’t flown in other lofts
You can lift the trap wires and let them go out through the trap on the roof. I'm very happy to see you letting them out. You should let them out frequently. I wish you had an old pigeon to guide them that always works so well!
Great job buddy they finally went out and you were successful in getting 19 out of 20 back in. All of your pigeons are getting to know the area and they are imprinting on it, I watched a documentary a while back wi the professional racers and one of them used the method of letting them roam around his land before he started flying them. I do agree that instead of the front door you could use the trap door that they are learning to use. Keep it going.
Keep your spirits up Kurt, you threw us a curveball by letting all the birds out altogether but credit to you for having the courage to do so. I had a feeling about Adam archer's birds being good. You have a lot of good birds but they are just lazy and that's because you take such care of them. Don't let the work knock your plug in mate, you give us great entertainment and a lot of us can help give you a little advice too though ( even though I have never had birds myself I've had a wealth of experience working with them).. Get some more videos up, we are here to support you and anyone who is negative can go to another channel !!
@@ManeyPigeons you had them trained to exit loft via trap , and coming back in also , the birds got the hang of that very quickly. the birds are also used to the internal sliding door to enter avary . i think once you let them out via the avary they got confused a little . love your channel , love the birds , keep those videos coming ! shout out from north wales in the uk
@Lacie Leon in the uk , we would let the young birds take a bath before letting them out . this keeps them heavy and on the loft roof/landing board . after a week or 2 , they wont need the baths , just let them out and go for a fly with crossed fingers .
Its always good for them to explore around the loft they just home better if they peck around the loft and explore especially on the first day out let them go out and explore
It's there first time out mate . You don't want them all flying around you want them on the ground. Just keep letting them out they will start to fly soon don't stress and don't keep them locked up for longer . They did well even though you let them all out together that was your only mistake . Just keep doing it trust me within a week they will be doing laps around the block
ALRIGHT MANEY LOFT's its there first time out another few days and ull be STOKED, its just giving them time to settle, whats done is done were all learning, its ok for us writing in saying this and that but we no what its like most of us have pigeon's and ur first is always the unknown, but THING"s WILL ONLY GET BETTER, KEEP UR HARD WORK UP AN THINGS WILL PAY OFF, DUBLIN IRELAND
Kurt, I hope that most of your birds returned to your loft. Looking forward to part 2. Hoping for good news. I lost an entire young birds team one year on a short training toss. I have no idea as to what happened. Hoping for the best for you. Basically this is how we learn.
From my experience. Having trees near your loft is always a bit of a challenge for young birds at first. Also, it might of been easier if you just removed the viewing box and let them out from the trap doors right onto the roof of the loft. That might of helped a bit, but no worries. You have good birds. They all will be just fine. Happy flying!
All of them are excited to go out, Maney yes it's very stressful but is normal,its because first time they went out, being outside of their loft its new to them,that's why there behavior is different. You are ok Maney you are doing 👍 good. I am excited to watch part 2 of this video. Godbless just enjoy what you're doing.
Try to give them all a bath first. When they are wet put them all on top of the roof or landing board for viewing at the same time while getting dry. Who knows they might fly around or go in after they're dry off. That's my tip.
Yesterday a falcon came right down on my pigions as I was feeding them outside,, MY head was to the ground And so were most of theirs eating,. Somehow they saw it and when one moves they all move so no one got grabbed... In fact I honestly believe that when I feed them there's always some that intentionally stay at the periphery of the eating circle who act as lookouts... The lookouts aren't STUPID or lazy and the flock isn't stupid or flighty , they know exactly what they are doing....The falcon was beautiful and not scared of me at all.. I think he wanted me to Feed him too as he just sat there for like 5 minutes on a bush Like 3 feet away from me.
Kurt, finally the birds are out :-) Don't worry there's always a first time. Just my opinion, I reckon the best way to let your birds out is via the door trap instead of the front door. With the trap you put on top of the green landing board...may be make a door from the front...once they're all there then open the door from the trap and let them out that way at least for the first couple of times so they get use to it. As you've been training them several time already by getting them flying out from the door traps which they're already familiar with. Just a suggestion...hopefully all your birds will make their way back to the loft soon. Looking forward to see Part 2...Good Luck Mate and fingers crossed.
Hi mate, don’t stress I am literally at the same stage as you but with only thirteen squeakers they only started flying in a pack the last two times I let them out just as you said really need to be patient they do need to peck around to get use to the surroundings I let mine graze the first three times then when they got to the roof I used the flag pole it’s good to run a bath for them when they are out like that
For Beginners out there. I would muchly tell that pigeons comeback if you take care of them with love. Before you let a young pigeon out to train. The pigeon must be viewed to it's place so it can know where they live or tape long feathers and let them out. Pigeons can't fly if their long feathers are removed or taped. You can only do this method if the pigeons are properly viewed. Then after 5days or 1week you can remove the tape . But if you removed the long feathers well it can take 1month to grow depends but still you can let them view your place , most likely the pigeons will get used to it. If your pigeons are on the ground usually on the roof or some high places. Don't scare them , just let them see the place. If they flew then let them be. Until they grow old they will be really used to it's place.
Yeah, these birds are tame but not 100% obedient like dogs, you kept them starving but the barren lands had enough food the pigeons like. Keep doing daily this routine if weather permits will imprint the surroundings faster, then you can enjoy them high flying. How many are missing?
time of training is afternoon, dont feed them too much put some swimming pods it will minimize them from overflying this birds are stress reliever well done mate
You should have done the soak method. That one is tested and proven. Place them into the landing board first which they're familiar already.. They're not familiar yet using that exit door, when they went out they felt like they're on a total different place. Also don't let them chill on the grass, remind them that it isn't allowed because they will get used to it and in the future you'll have a hard time calling them in.
Surprised they pecked at the ground upon first getting out. Our flock instantly took off and circled several laps in a radius of about eighty meters. They also stayed together.
Mayhem! Im a first time flyer/breeder. I am worried when i let my new flock out. Guess i will soon find out. Maybe take a few on one side of the estate for a short toss? That might get them flying?
you will be right, your breeding your birds where your flying them, just take your time and start training them trap ect soon as they are weaned away from mum and dad
Just young birds being young birds. Once more like today and by the third time they will be grouping better and staying in the air or on the loft. At least they didn’t follow those wild birds to who knows where.😉
doing good, always sprinkle a few drop of feed so they always associate the calling whistle and shake a can of feed so when they in the sky they hear, and see, feed time, tape one wing on a few of them leave on top of coop they see the other birds and come down to them.
Just call them in and for the first few times open the trap and let them go out on their own. It is not bad for them to have sometime to spend on the ground. It is good for their health. I let my for half day or some times even longer. Going good.
Frustrating for you but early days yet. Be patient and they will soon be flying round the property, I once released ten young racers and they travelled no more than a few feet from the loft all day. Within a month they were flying brilliant
first day yeah bit of a mess i say a bit of a fail there acting wild like normal pigeon looking for food in the ground probably worms but still i see what you mean hopefully they are back in the loft by now fingers crossed 🤞 don't want to lose any, hopefully your other one is back safe and not lost flying around
Great vid kurt u,ve started now so keep them goin, ignore all negative comments should,ve done this or that, or your teaching bad habits you do it your way mate, everyone who has birds go threw this every year when breaking youngsters in, it will get better they,ll start dapping round then bunching together every fancier goes threw it i think its no fail the habits u can change easily dropped 1 youngster outta 20 thats pigeons....keep them goin 🏴
Maney now that they’ve been out don’t let them out from the aviary for a while when you are trap training them take the training box off to let them out then when you think there are really good at trapping just keep letting them out from there they Won’t have as much of will to to to the ground because there all the way on top of the loft
The last thing you want them to believe that you are scaring them away especially after they have been caged for months you will lose some after being cage for so long but don’t stress your stocking more this is the fun of racing always finding ways to get the team better
Sorry one other tip the trees on either side of the loft try trim them to be smaller than the loft as they can be a to much cover for the loft I know they are nice but to have a clear landing path will benefit you when you race
Maney when they go up you should shake the food dish to call them back down until they get use to going out when they are used to going out you can leave them just fly out and go for a good fly around the loft they will be more use to it then good luck
Ok i would say it's not a total fail, two things let young and old birds out about a hour left of sunshine and number 2 let birds out starving number 2 is a must. first time letting any birds out the first three times they must be starving that's key remember this and good luck going forward.
Kurt, one mistake you made is calling the birds in constantly without putting food in the loft ... that’s an issue because the birds will no longer associate the whistle with “feed” 100% of the time.
You need to ensure that EVERY single time you call the birds in, you at least pour some seed even if it’s just a very tiny amount of seeds
Try letting them all out from the trap door & put a tray with water on the landing board so they can have a bath
so once they all wet they wont over fly
Let them hang out on the landing board/roof for awhile,then call them in... see how they go
thanks! good tips
Right!! I have more ir less the same tecnic ! It's easy and efective way to teach them!
That’s what I was thinking too if you do that they will view it a lot better
They won’t leave 😂. It’s good for them to go out and fly, u have the upper hand. Just whistle and pour food where they usually eat. No need for u to worry. Especially if they haven’t flown in other lofts
You can lift the trap wires and let them go out through the trap on the roof. I'm very happy to see you letting them out. You should let them out frequently. I wish you had an old pigeon to guide them that always works so well!
that will be tomorrows trail trap exit
Great job buddy they finally went out and you were successful in getting 19 out of 20 back in. All of your pigeons are getting to know the area and they are imprinting on it, I watched a documentary a while back wi the professional racers and one of them used the method of letting them roam around his land before he started flying them. I do agree that instead of the front door you could use the trap door that they are learning to use. Keep it going.
Keep your spirits up Kurt, you threw us a curveball by letting all the birds out altogether but credit to you for having the courage to do so. I had a feeling about Adam archer's birds being good.
You have a lot of good birds but they are just lazy and that's because you take such care of them.
Don't let the work knock your plug in mate, you give us great entertainment and a lot of us can help give you a little advice too though ( even though I have never had birds myself I've had a wealth of experience working with them)..
Get some more videos up, we are here to support you and anyone who is negative can go to another channel !!
send them out through the trap without the cage , so they stay up on the landing board or roof
yeah i might have to try that tomorrow thanks!
@@ManeyPigeons you had them trained to exit loft via trap , and coming back in also , the birds got the hang of that very quickly. the birds are also used to the internal sliding door to enter avary . i think once you let them out via the avary they got confused a little .
love your channel , love the birds , keep those videos coming !
shout out from north wales in the uk
I agree here..😀
Seems good idea
@Lacie Leon in the uk , we would let the young birds take a bath before letting them out . this keeps them heavy and on the loft roof/landing board . after a week or 2 , they wont need the baths , just let them out and go for a fly with crossed fingers .
Its always good for them to explore around the loft they just home better if they peck around the loft and explore especially on the first day out let them go out and explore
thanks!
It's there first time out mate . You don't want them all flying around you want them on the ground. Just keep letting them out they will start to fly soon don't stress and don't keep them locked up for longer . They did well even though you let them all out together that was your only mistake . Just keep doing it trust me within a week they will be doing laps around the block
thanks! lets do this
@@ManeyPigeons 👍 ✌
Couldn't wait for this one 😍😍😍😍
thanks!
ALRIGHT MANEY LOFT's its there first time out another few days and ull be STOKED, its just giving them time to settle, whats done is done were all learning, its ok for us writing in saying this and that but we no what its like most of us have pigeon's and ur first is always the unknown, but THING"s WILL ONLY GET BETTER, KEEP UR HARD WORK UP AN THINGS WILL PAY OFF, DUBLIN IRELAND
Also sending them out through the trap door seems like a good idea
yeah ill try that tomorrow
Kurt, I hope that most of your birds returned to your loft. Looking forward to part 2. Hoping for good news. I lost an entire young birds team one year on a short training toss. I have no idea as to what happened. Hoping for the best for you. Basically this is how we learn.
thanks! try again tomorrow we will!
From my experience. Having trees near your loft is always a bit of a challenge for young birds at first. Also, it might of been easier if you just removed the viewing box and let them out from the trap doors right onto the roof of the loft. That might of helped a bit, but no worries. You have good birds. They all will be just fine. Happy flying!
I’ve been looking forward to this video all week. It cracked me up when you told your gold laced chicken to get out of your car! 😀
she tries to lay her eggs in there :/
Those pink headed pigeons weren't there before 🤔 gotta love them galahs.
All of them are excited to go out, Maney yes it's very stressful but is normal,its because first time they went out, being outside of their loft its new to them,that's why there behavior is different. You are ok Maney you are doing 👍 good. I am excited to watch part 2 of this video. Godbless just enjoy what you're doing.
thankyou!
Try to give them all a bath first. When they are wet put them all on top of the roof or landing board for viewing at the same time while getting dry. Who knows they might fly around or go in after they're dry off. That's my tip.
good idea
First time out they don't know what's expected . That they haven't flown off is a positive . We'll done mate .
My feeling is let them out about an hour before dusk- and feed them lightly the day before. Too much enjoyable sun.
yeah they was enjoying it to much
What do you mean
I have pigeon aswell I have 34 raseds tipllers and rollers
Yesterday a falcon came right down on my pigions as I was feeding them outside,, MY head was to the ground And so were most of theirs eating,. Somehow they saw it and when one moves they all move so no one got grabbed... In fact I honestly believe that when I feed them there's always some that intentionally stay at the periphery of the eating circle who act as lookouts... The lookouts aren't STUPID or lazy and the flock isn't stupid or flighty , they know exactly what they are doing....The falcon was beautiful and not scared of me at all.. I think he wanted me to Feed him too as he just sat there for like 5 minutes on a bush Like 3 feet away from me.
It is a beautiful bath, my brother, I salute you from Egypt😍❤️❤️
Kurt, finally the birds are out :-) Don't worry there's always a first time. Just my opinion, I reckon the best way to let your birds out is via the door trap instead of the front door. With the trap you put on top of the green landing board...may be make a door from the front...once they're all there then open the door from the trap and let them out that way at least for the first couple of times so they get use to it. As you've been training them several time already by getting them flying out from the door traps which they're already familiar with. Just a suggestion...hopefully all your birds will make their way back to the loft soon. Looking forward to see Part 2...Good Luck Mate and fingers crossed.
thanks i think that will be tomorrows attempt, they was a little scared of the loft roof so lets try get them used to it being a safe zone!
@@ManeyPigeons , couldn't agree more. Good luck tomorrow.
This is what ive been waiting for
thanks!
Now if there was any video I would want Adam Archer to miss it would be this one
hahah
@@ManeyPigeons No kidding your so honest, he would be last for me too!
@Maney did that one bird from Adam archer return? And is that the only one that took off?
Hi mate, don’t stress I am literally at the same stage as you but with only thirteen squeakers they only started flying in a pack the last two times I let them out just as you said really need to be patient they do need to peck around to get use to the surroundings I let mine graze the first three times then when they got to the roof I used the flag pole it’s good to run a bath for them when they are out like that
Everything looks like it’s moving as planned my brother keep safe and keep the videos coming !
Aww your pigeons are sooo cute 🐦❤️ they can get some fresh air now 🐦
Thanks!
It was nice they outside and fly little bit. I hope you dont lose any, especially the black one i love him. Good job.
thankyou!
Nice, first time out🕊👍🏻🕊👍🏻🕊👍🏻🕊👍🏻
Thanks 👍
For Beginners out there.
I would muchly tell that pigeons comeback if you take care of them with love.
Before you let a young pigeon out to train. The pigeon must be viewed to it's place so it can know where they live or tape long feathers and let them out. Pigeons can't fly if their long feathers are removed or taped.
You can only do this method if the pigeons are properly viewed. Then after 5days or 1week you can remove the tape . But if you removed the long feathers well it can take 1month to grow depends but still you can let them view your place , most likely the pigeons will get used to it. If your pigeons are on the ground usually on the roof or some high places. Don't scare them , just let them see the place. If they flew then let them be. Until they grow old they will be really used to it's place.
thanks mohan!
Yeah, these birds are tame but not 100% obedient like dogs, you kept them starving but the barren lands had enough food the pigeons like. Keep doing daily this routine if weather permits will imprint the surroundings faster, then you can enjoy them high flying. How many are missing?
He said only 1 is missing, pretty sure is Adam archers bird.
Let them out when they are hungry or one hour before you feed them so they will listen to you 😍
Regards
thanks!
time of training is afternoon, dont feed them too much put some swimming pods it will minimize them from overflying this birds are stress reliever well done mate
You should have done the soak method. That one is tested and proven. Place them into the landing board first which they're familiar already.. They're not familiar yet using that exit door, when they went out they felt like they're on a total different place. Also don't let them chill on the grass, remind them that it isn't allowed because they will get used to it and in the future you'll have a hard time calling them in.
Great point! tomorrow lets hope we have better luck with new tips!
Wow nice loft! Watching from Oakland California thunder loft
Surprised they pecked at the ground upon first getting out. Our flock instantly took off and circled several laps in a radius of about eighty meters. They also stayed together.
Hi maney, im just wating for this time (pigeons flying)😗😍😍and also,sorry i am too late to see your video.❤❤❤lovely.
No worries!
KURT Ur ,soo kind!!
Thanku☺☺😊
Awesome video mate!
Nice pigeon from Bangladesh
Tôi thích thiết kế chuồng nuôi của bạn và những chú chim Bồ câu rất đẹp.Tôi đến từ Việt Nam 🇻🇳
Mayhem! Im a first time flyer/breeder. I am worried when i let my new flock out. Guess i will soon find out. Maybe take a few on one side of the estate for a short toss? That might get them flying?
you will be right, your breeding your birds where your flying them, just take your time and start training them trap ect soon as they are weaned away from mum and dad
This is what ive been waiting for and smart bird😉
yeah, finally , 😍😍
thanks!
Just young birds being young birds. Once more like today and by the third time they will be grouping better and staying in the air or on the loft. At least they didn’t follow those wild birds to who knows where.😉
a nerve wrecking moment tbh when u let them out for the first time
i thought it was all over for me aha
@@ManeyPigeons hahahah
doing good, always sprinkle a few drop of feed so they always associate the calling whistle and shake a can of feed so when they in the sky they hear, and see, feed time, tape one wing on a few of them leave on top of coop they see the other birds and come down to them.
Good morning bro, I always enjoy your pigeons video keep it up.
Yess finally 🤩🤩🤩
thanks!
Oh! Keep it safe po
Thank you, I will
It takes time most of your birds are young but great job and I like your channel
Yes, thanks
Just call them in and for the first few times open the trap and let them go out on their own. It is not bad for them to have sometime to spend on the ground. It is good for their health. I let my for half day or some times even longer. Going good.
Super kanał super filmiki 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏👏
Woww its beautifull diferrent bird you have there
You are so kind
@@ManeyPigeons ohhh thank you sir
Frustrating for you but early days yet. Be patient and they will soon be flying round the property, I once released ten young racers and they travelled no more than a few feet from the loft all day. Within a month they were flying brilliant
Wow sir your pigeon is a beautiful .. shotout sir from ther philippines ..
They are exited for their first loft fly
they are!
Very nice setup bro good job
Nope that’s called a strong flyer that’s arranging a very very strong player you should be proud
nice one sir happy flying
You are the best
no you are the best
Very good pigeons 🙏🏻👌🏽👍
Those are beautiful Galah parrots
first day yeah bit of a mess i say a bit of a fail there acting wild like normal pigeon looking for food in the ground probably worms but still i see what you mean hopefully they are back in the loft by now fingers crossed 🤞 don't want to lose any, hopefully your other one is back safe and not lost flying around
yeah the first time i guess its all new, they better start behaving after this!
Nice
Thanks
Very good these chanal
Cool wow👌👌
thanks!
Good luck my friend
Thanks
2day the day take care from blackpool England 🇬🇧
yeah scary aha
love from Bangladesh ❤️❤️
Getting curious🤩
thanks!
Great vid kurt u,ve started now so keep them goin, ignore all negative comments should,ve done this or that, or your teaching bad habits you do it your way mate, everyone who has birds go threw this every year when breaking youngsters in, it will get better they,ll start dapping round then bunching together every fancier goes threw it i think its no fail the habits u can change easily dropped 1 youngster outta 20 thats pigeons....keep them goin 🏴
Thank you, I will
no you didn’t do any wrong man they are enjoying outside so don’t panic man. you saying you’re missing four birds finger cross their back in loft now
we are 19/20 birds now! good
@@ManeyPigeons no worries man he will back tomorrow morning🤞🏾🤞🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thay are doing so much better
Most important thong bro is that they are not going away, they are just getting a feel of the environment. Before the end of the day they will go in.
And one last tip mesh the bottom of your loft because they will attempt to breed underneath I meshed mine two days ago best thing I did
👏👏👏 I want to see the other part of the video. Are all the pigeons at Home?
Nice ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Nice sir good for the pigion not so hard to learn
Nice pigeons
Maney now that they’ve been out don’t let them out from the aviary for a while when you are trap training them take the training box off to let them out then when you think there are really good at trapping just keep letting them out from there they
Won’t have as much of will to to to the ground because there all the way on top of the loft
The last thing you want them to believe that you are scaring them away especially after they have been caged for months you will lose some after being cage for so long but don’t stress your stocking more this is the fun of racing always finding ways to get the team better
Amazing ❤️❤️😍😍👌👌
Bnn continuations jm bien
Good pigeons ❤
Yes, thanks
Wow nice 👍👍
Thanks 🤗
@@ManeyPigeons ur welcome 👍
Nice pigeon sir.
Nice video
Thanks
Maney why did you release the birds so soon, when it comes to pigeons you have to be patient my friend.
i think its been a good time, they seem ready
How are you getting on? hope you get them all back, waiting for the next video, hope you have a smile on your face, they will get there
Thank you, I will 19/20 :P
@@ManeyPigeons so the black one has done a runner?
oh sorry i will wait for the video, keep up the good work
Beautiful
I like you sang 🤙
Sorry one other tip the trees on either side of the loft try trim them to be smaller than the loft as they can be a to much cover for the loft I know they are nice but to have a clear landing path will benefit you when you race
good job bro
Thanks
@@ManeyPigeons next time bro before u let them go ...feed them first so they will not do the same thing what they did ...
I've got some older birds that I've had for 3 months is it ok if I fly them
I agree let them out on the landing board with a bath pan
good idea!
I think they’re too hungry. The overwhelming urge to eat took over. Try luring them back in using the rattling sound of the seed container.
Maney when they go up you should shake the food dish to call them back down until they get use to going out when they are used to going out you can leave them just fly out and go for a good fly around the loft they will be more use to it then good luck
Ok i would say it's not a total fail, two things let young and old birds out about a hour left of sunshine and number 2 let birds out starving number 2 is a must. first time letting any birds out the first three times they must be starving that's key remember this and good luck going forward.
thank lets hope better luck tomorrow!
which state you in and the area look nice? is the land there expressive?
That's why I keep saying you keep them train as much as you can it is to early for them to be out
Nice pigeon