Sometimes, it's so simple that our mind can't seem to grasp it. You are simply not your mind. When you experienced this, almost all suffering becomes an option.
"It is not fear that makes you safe, it makes you vulnerable . It is not that you "self" is under attack, it your "defences" that are". . Brilliantly put.
This was, by far, the most extraordinary question and answer I have ever heard. Not only did it explain much about a pattern of thinking I have had, it explained my friends. Thank you Rupert and thank you, dear unknown friend who was brave enough to share!
From this video, I’m understanding my ego-mind as a little child, vulnerable and scared, with my true nature comforting and reassuring. “Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” This reversal feels very joyful to my body. Thank you very much to the question and the answer.
The power of pain and suffering that uses fear to defend itself, forever imprisoning you. If you ever want out of pain and suffering, you must let go of your fear. You will discover it was no more real than your belief of it. And beyond this fear, a life without pain and suffering awaits, at peace and happy. Dont be afraid to let go of fear. You can always return to it if you like. But, you won't.😊
Sometimes all you need to do is to stop pondering over every notion that rises up in awareness. Get liberated from the unnecessary worry of what's up.. pondering over and worring about it wont make it go away.. it will leave on its own as soon as you let it go... stop grasping 😀 and you're free.. of it..
@Icy_cool hey there IcyCool ☺ true... if you can manage the feelings you can pretty much drift through life cheetfully even with those thoughts 😆 cheers mate
To me this fear all goes back to fear of dying - being liked, being successful, not being hurt, not being seen, heard, supported etc is all about survival. if we truly believe we are eternal there’s nothing to fear.
7588 views in 24hrs? This is brilliant - the best news I have seen all day and perhaps there really is a momentum to this work that can transform us all.
Though a person should protect themselves from actual threat I would hope. Sure that self may be indestructible but I do enjoy being here with my family.
It's not your self that is under attack, it's your defense mechanism that's continued to be attacked. Your fear doesn't keep you safe, it keeps you vulnerable. It's not the fear that makes you safe, it's the fear that makes you vulnerable
The common mind is not able to understand this. Buddhist teachers should take this in consideration and have the most respect for our limited view. I mean I want nothing more then to let go of the suffering and of my limited identity but I just can’t even begin to understand what that means, or how to do it. I can’t separate awareness from the experience of the mind not I can even understand it …
When we are young children we have no defences. We have an innocence that gradually erodes as the actions of others condition us. Therefore it is not surprising that as adults, we are reluctant to return to what we may regard as a childlike vulnerability. I understand what Rupert means when he says that there is a place where nothing and no one can harm us but we live in a world of narrative and mind and people will continue to try and find ways of pushing their pain on to each other, whether we are awakened or not. Therefore I think it is important that we also carry an approach of compassionate assertiveness and critical thinking with us into our awakened state. This doesn't mean that we should be less awake, it is simply an acknowledgement that we live in a world that is constructed mostly through mind and narrative and that we need techniques in order to live in that world as well as being able to understand our seperateness from that world. More importantly it will help us to stay in the awakened state and not fall back into our pain bodies. www.holisticactivism.net
a newborn child doesn't know it needs protection; it is those mature bodies around who provide protection because they are made to do so- they have no choice. Letting go of the mind sounds like a choice of renouncing thought through logic and rationalization, controlling the mind [through the mind], which is not possible; letting go means looking beyond/behind the incessant chattering of the mind, ignoring it. While this also creates discomfort, similar with that of quitting an addiction, it is less difficult and with greater chances of success than the imagined 'active doing' of letting go. Fighting the mind with the mind has zero chances of success. Similarly, 'going to the self that cannot be hurt' is not an 'active doing' but rather a passive one through the ignoring of that which can be hurt [the mind] by witnessing it without reacting emotionally or otherwise.
to clear the mind you just have to trust it and let it the fuck alone be aware of what you are doing breathing your sensual experience or what ever but let the mind the fuck alone... like how would you feel if there is always someone who watches you and judges you and argue with you the mind does his job the best if u dont always look at it
What he says is true and she knows it, after all that was her stance and her problem, that she can’t let her fear go, because she is identified with it. But what can she do? She can only try to stay in the witnessing detached presence, but when the identification and its grip is released is unknown if ever, even though she recognises the issue, she can’t fix it really, there’s nothing Rupert can say to help, offering logical advise and logically providing the info is not her problem, she can’t use it.
It seems the ‘personnel’ department of the mind, the problematic identity engineering department is always the problem. The mind is happy with any identity, it works with what is available, environment etc, and builds an identity that we believe we are. Some are better than others but they’re all problematic. Once conditioning and identity have formed it is fiercely protected. Why? Isn’t this strange. First we can recognise the identity. Then we must transcend it. But no matter how much suffering the identity causes (or is made of) it is protected. For without it who are you? From the minds point of view, you disappear, you die, this is the river of fear that must be crossed, the letting go of who you believe you are.
Why it is so fiercely protected? Because it was formed by the fear if death.. It's a survival mode. Therefore not to be underestimated. To resolve it we have to feel the sheer fear of dying. Difficult to do that voluntarily. 🍃❤
I have a lot of fear too as I don't have job don't have money don't have future I also scare loud sound which make me fear of something. I wonder what is it?
Hey Jason, check out EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) aka "Tapping". Lots of free vids on the internet. Great for working on fears in the mind/body (has nothing to do with nonduality though)
😢that is me also.. how than get rid off the defense and wall of pain and fear?... your answer, Rupert, will be “To go to the Self, to be the Self”... But here is vicious circle: this wall of pain doesn’t let myself to be the Self... it doesn’t let me realize Real Self. A person who is behind the wall of pain for his whole life sees everything through these lenses... 😢it is no more possible for such a person to comeback to real Self... this “wall” doesn’t let in 😢
IOW Worrying wont make you more prepared. Ruminating won't make anything happen. Worrying, or obsessively thinking just causes suffering. All things are going to happen or not happen anyways. Why not just do your best and let the river take you.
I don't think she'll get 'lonelier & lonelier', I like her honesty, she knows herself, she will be fine, (just saying what I felt to balance things, after an uncharacteristically (edit-wise) sour note to end upon :)
Rupert speaks with sincerity and insights; however, there is more. Spinoza helps us awaken the mind and we learn to discern the passive/ego state and an active intuitive intelligence, that knows and lives in truth. www.WayofSpinoza.com
In the advaita realm, it seems a given that the word 'Mind' describes the thinking process or Mind =Thoughts. jiddu Krishnamurthy uses very different language. Of Mind he states that it is not a mechanical process, not a product of thought and not of time, and ONLY when the nature of thought is totally explored, the source of thought and all it's activities, can the nature of mind be explored. JKM almost never uses the word awareness, and listeners may conclude that the word awareness is not different to JKM's definition of mind. In all my years around advaita teachers, I have rarely heard the word brain, even as JKM says it is the source of thought, is of time and thinking is a mechanical process of the brain. The deeper questions are is it beneficial to continue to use the word mind when the meaning is clearly about thought,?. Even the title of this clip adds to the presumption that Mind = thoughts.
Many people are afraid to empty their minds lest they may plunge into the Void. They do not know that their own Mind is the void. The ignorant eschew phenomena but not thought ; the wise eschew thought but not phenomena. (Ch'an Master Huang Po)
What you will not hear rupert say is that this is really only possible for the financially secure. For the half of the population that is starving economically and cannot make ends meet and is constantly forced into a state of anxiety and fear of not being able to provide for themselves and their family, good luck with surrender and letting go. There are the eckhart tolles of course who can turn it into a book deal, but for most of us this just isnt going to happen. I dont disagree with anything rupert says but for most people it is premature. We do not currently live in a world that supports spiritual freedom, in fact nearly all its forces are aligned against it.
I believe what much of what Rupert teaches is premature for many people. Many would be better off to start with teachers like Byron Katie or Teal Swann and then seek out teachers like Rupert. Advaita is for those wanting and are ready for the final dissolving and integration of the ego.
I think you won't hear Rupert say it because it is absolutely untrue. It costs no money to close your eyes and notice the nature of your experience. It costs no money to see that your suffering is an illusion. It's not easy work, it will take persistence, but it will never cost you money. You can do it with a broken leg. You can do it with anxiety. You can do it in the deepest fear. You can do it while working a horrible job. You can do it while you're starving to death. In fact, under such circumstances, the teachings of non-duality are an incredible gift which have set many free.
If you are struggling and suffering its actually a great opportunity to grow spiritually and realize your true nature. But really, your life circumstance doesnt really matter. Literally anyone can awaken at any place any time.
The great American sage Robert Adams once said that one of the most enlightened beings he ever met worked and owned a tavern in New York City, and Robert had studied directly with Ramana Maharshi for years. It's enlightened beings (to whatever degree) that meet the common folk and shine their radiance on them that helps awaken the seed in their hearts. Money has nothing to do with that.
This is why Ramdas, a student of Yogi Amrit Desai, says we must give up even our favorite sufferings.
So beautiful Rupert.
Yes, Mind like suffering.
Wow that phrase has struck me. Where can I read up on that?
Thank you to this woman for persisting with her question. This is my question too.
Sometimes, it's so simple that our mind can't seem to grasp it. You are simply not your mind. When you experienced this, almost all suffering becomes an option.
Τrue because pain may be inevitable but suffering is an option !
An option?
@@Progenitor1979 Yes suffering means you have identified with the pain, prolonging it more than necessary.
"It is not fear that makes you safe, it makes you vulnerable . It is not that you "self" is under attack, it your "defences" that are".
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Brilliantly put.
This was, by far, the most extraordinary question and answer I have ever heard. Not only did it explain much about a pattern of thinking I have had, it explained my friends. Thank you Rupert and thank you, dear unknown friend who was brave enough to share!
Rupert, thank you so much. The beauty that is revealed through your being, your compassion for this woman, is beyond words. Thank you.
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
“ If you want security u have to go to yourself” this is great really hit home! Thank you for this. I subscribed immediately
Wow. Simple, direct and powerful. I hope the questioner is able to let his advice simmer and take root.
From this video, I’m understanding my ego-mind as a little child, vulnerable and scared, with my true nature comforting and reassuring. “Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” This reversal feels very joyful to my body. Thank you very much to the question and the answer.
The power of pain and suffering that uses fear to defend itself, forever imprisoning you. If you ever want out of pain and suffering, you must let go of your fear. You will discover it was no more real than your belief of it. And beyond this fear, a life without pain and suffering awaits, at peace and happy. Dont be afraid to let go of fear. You can always return to it if you like. But, you won't.😊
Always deep words of wisdom & Truth
Sometimes all you need to do is to stop pondering over every notion that rises up in awareness. Get liberated from the unnecessary worry of what's up.. pondering over and worring about it wont make it go away.. it will leave on its own as soon as you let it go... stop grasping
😀 and you're free.. of it..
@Icy_cool hey there IcyCool ☺ true... if you can manage the feelings you can pretty much drift through life cheetfully even with those thoughts 😆 cheers mate
To me this fear all goes back to fear of dying - being liked, being successful, not being hurt, not being seen, heard, supported etc is all about survival. if we truly believe we are eternal there’s nothing to fear.
Great truth talk,thank You Rupert 🙏
Thanks..🌷 beloved Rupert..♥🙏
A course in miracles,
in your defenselessness your safety lies.
Love it
7588 views in 24hrs? This is brilliant - the best news I have seen all day and perhaps there really is a momentum to this work that can transform us all.
Such a beautiful excerpt, thanks so much ❤️
Where are the flowers? It’s weird how unsettling the absence of the flowers makes me feel...
Why should 20 flowers die for a fake feeling of beauty? Beauty is only in your Self...
@@georgelianoudakis1450 well said
can't you enjoy the simple glass of water?
Brilliantly described..
Love this pure master teacher 💗🙏💗
❤❤❤❤
Thank You!
Though a person should protect themselves from actual threat I would hope.
Sure that self may be indestructible but I do enjoy being here with my family.
It's not your self that is under attack, it's your defense mechanism that's continued to be attacked. Your fear doesn't keep you safe, it keeps you vulnerable. It's not the fear that makes you safe, it's the fear that makes you vulnerable
I'm so fascinated by the mind
Brilliant
The common mind is not able to understand this. Buddhist teachers should take this in consideration and have the most respect for our limited view. I mean I want nothing more then to let go of the suffering and of my limited identity but I just can’t even begin to understand what that means, or how to do it. I can’t separate awareness from the experience of the mind not I can even understand it …
When we are young children we have no defences. We have an innocence that gradually erodes as the actions of others condition us. Therefore it is not surprising that as adults, we are reluctant to return to what we may regard as a childlike vulnerability. I understand what Rupert means when he says that there is a place where nothing and no one can harm us but we live in a world of narrative and mind and people will continue to try and find ways of pushing their pain on to each other, whether we are awakened or not. Therefore I think it is important that we also carry an approach of compassionate assertiveness and critical thinking with us into our awakened state. This doesn't mean that we should be less awake, it is simply an acknowledgement that we live in a world that is constructed mostly through mind and narrative and that we need techniques in order to live in that world as well as being able to understand our seperateness from that world. More importantly it will help us to stay in the awakened state and not fall back into our pain bodies. www.holisticactivism.net
I think that what happens is that holding on to what we believe/our defences becomes so painful that the only option is to drop it
a newborn child doesn't know it needs protection; it is those mature bodies around who provide protection because they are made to do so- they have no choice.
Letting go of the mind sounds like a choice of renouncing thought through logic and rationalization, controlling the mind [through the mind], which is not possible; letting go means looking beyond/behind the incessant chattering of the mind, ignoring it. While this also creates discomfort, similar with that of quitting an addiction, it is less difficult and with greater chances of success than the imagined 'active doing' of letting go. Fighting the mind with the mind has zero chances of success. Similarly, 'going to the self that cannot be hurt' is not an 'active doing' but rather a passive one through the ignoring of that which can be hurt [the mind] by witnessing it without reacting emotionally or otherwise.
to clear the mind you just have to trust it and let it the fuck alone be aware of what you are doing breathing your sensual experience or what ever but let the mind the fuck alone... like how would you feel if there is always someone who watches you and judges you and argue with you the mind does his job the best if u dont always look at it
We are only vulnerable, when we build defenses.
I Am relaxed and undefended.
the first part of a person's life is ego-led, the second part is different - you move on naturally
What he says is true and she knows it, after all that was her stance and her problem, that she can’t let her fear go, because she is identified with it.
But what can she do? She can only try to stay in the witnessing detached presence, but when the identification and its grip is released is unknown if ever, even though she recognises the issue, she can’t fix it really, there’s nothing Rupert can say to help, offering logical advise and logically providing the info is not her problem, she can’t use it.
It seems the ‘personnel’ department of the mind, the problematic identity engineering department is always the problem. The mind is happy with any identity, it works with what is available, environment etc, and builds an identity that we believe we are. Some are better than others but they’re all problematic. Once conditioning and identity have formed it is fiercely protected. Why? Isn’t this strange. First we can recognise the identity. Then we must transcend it. But no matter how much suffering the identity causes (or is made of) it is protected. For without it who are you? From the minds point of view, you disappear, you die, this is the river of fear that must be crossed, the letting go of who you believe you are.
Why it is so fiercely protected?
Because it was formed by the fear if death..
It's a survival mode. Therefore not to be underestimated.
To resolve it we have to feel the sheer fear of dying.
Difficult to do that voluntarily. 🍃❤
Wahwah AhaAha dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude dhanyabad dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad
She didn't know why she feared letting go of her defences because it was the unknown itself she feared.
I have a lot of fear too as I don't have job don't have money don't have future I also scare loud sound which make me fear of something. I wonder what is it?
Sending you love Jason ❤
You have fear because you are totally invested in the story of the illusionary "you". And you have no idea where the story is gonna go.
Jackson Scully oh I guess I'm not letting go of the fear then? But it's just horrible to fear so much
@@jasontang9192 One of the things I remind myself of is that it's the ego talking so I just ignore it. Remember: you are not even your mind.
Hey Jason, check out EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) aka "Tapping". Lots of free vids on the internet. Great for working on fears in the mind/body (has nothing to do with nonduality though)
No thing to fear but thyself
Thy false self, which is an illusion.
😢that is me also.. how than get rid off the defense and wall of pain and fear?... your answer, Rupert, will be “To go to the Self, to be the Self”... But here is vicious circle: this wall of pain doesn’t let myself to be the Self... it doesn’t let me realize Real Self. A person who is behind the wall of pain for his whole life sees everything through these lenses... 😢it is no more possible for such a person to comeback to real Self... this “wall” doesn’t let in 😢
If I could I would let go of my defence system. I really don‘t know how. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Me too 😢
It’s as if the defenses create the vulnerability
Women aren't half complicated.
IOW Worrying wont make you more prepared. Ruminating won't make anything happen. Worrying, or obsessively thinking just causes suffering. All things are going to happen or not happen anyways. Why not just do your best and let the river take you.
I don't think she'll get 'lonelier & lonelier', I like her honesty, she knows herself, she will be fine, (just saying what I felt to balance things, after an uncharacteristically (edit-wise) sour note to end upon :)
☺ 💖
Rupert speaks with sincerity and insights; however, there is
more. Spinoza helps us awaken the mind and we learn to discern the passive/ego
state and an active intuitive intelligence, that knows and lives in truth. www.WayofSpinoza.com
In the advaita realm, it seems a given that the word 'Mind' describes the thinking process or Mind =Thoughts. jiddu Krishnamurthy uses very different language. Of Mind he states that it is not a mechanical process, not a product of thought and not of time, and ONLY when the nature of thought is totally explored, the source of thought and all it's activities, can the nature of mind be explored.
JKM almost never uses the word awareness, and listeners may conclude that the word awareness is not different to JKM's definition of mind.
In all my years around advaita teachers, I have rarely heard the word brain, even as JKM says it is the source of thought, is of time and thinking is a mechanical process of the brain.
The deeper questions are is it beneficial to continue to use the word mind when the meaning is clearly about thought,?. Even the title of this clip adds to the presumption that Mind = thoughts.
The Mind is the medium in which thoughts arise..
Many people are afraid to empty their minds lest they may plunge into the Void. They do not know that their own Mind is the void. The ignorant eschew phenomena but not thought ; the wise eschew thought but not phenomena.
(Ch'an Master Huang Po)
Who watches the Defenses ?
No one
The Observer, he's also the thing he observes, and between the two is the never ending corridor of conflict
Oh boy, this hit hard.
What you will not hear rupert say is that this is really only possible for the financially secure. For the half of the population that is starving economically and cannot make ends meet and is constantly forced into a state of anxiety and fear of not being able to provide for themselves and their family, good luck with surrender and letting go.
There are the eckhart tolles of course who can turn it into a book deal, but for most of us this just isnt going to happen. I dont disagree with anything rupert says but for most people it is premature. We do not currently live in a world that supports spiritual freedom, in fact nearly all its forces are aligned against it.
I believe what much of what Rupert teaches is premature for many people. Many would be better off to start with teachers like Byron Katie or Teal Swann and then seek out teachers like Rupert. Advaita is for those wanting and are ready for the final dissolving and integration of the ego.
I think you won't hear Rupert say it because it is absolutely untrue. It costs no money to close your eyes and notice the nature of your experience. It costs no money to see that your suffering is an illusion. It's not easy work, it will take persistence, but it will never cost you money. You can do it with a broken leg. You can do it with anxiety. You can do it in the deepest fear. You can do it while working a horrible job. You can do it while you're starving to death. In fact, under such circumstances, the teachings of non-duality are an incredible gift which have set many free.
If you are struggling and suffering its actually a great opportunity to grow spiritually and realize your true nature.
But really, your life circumstance doesnt really matter. Literally anyone can awaken at any place any time.
The great American sage Robert Adams once said that one of the most enlightened beings he ever met worked and owned a tavern in New York City, and Robert had studied directly with Ramana Maharshi for years. It's enlightened beings (to whatever degree) that meet the common folk and shine their radiance on them that helps awaken the seed in their hearts. Money has nothing to do with that.
@@joeserianz6205 so i should open a tavern in new York city?
This woman is trying to out maneuver his response not realizing it applies all the same..
Och Tomhet är deras tröst.
A bit of a psychological talkfest..
You are so wise.
Ohh yes, letting go of the mind.
Here we go. Ha ha.
Thank you!