NOT Having A Good Time - The Bachelorette WEEK 5 RECAP Gabby & Rachel's Season
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- It's Week 5 of The Bachelorette with Gabby and Rachel and we're now cruising from France to Bruges Belgium! But will the episode come to a screeching halt when Logan decides to let Rachel and Gabby know he wants to swap teams? Be sure to check it out in this latest recap of The Bachelorette Season 19 episode 5!
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Drink every time Gabby says "yeah" and Rachel cries.
im 2 minutes in and drunk already
That’s deadly
Hilarious 😭🤣🤣
I'm officially drunk already
Yeah... that's deadly Bachelor Fantake...like yeah
I'll be harsh and honest here, being rejected doesn't make you a bad bachelorette, bit canceling dates all the time when they are there for you to learn more about the men.... yeah....
Everybody cancels dates. They’re exhausted. The editors are choosing to make this looks like a crisis
@@mojos7 yes every lead cancels dates. It’s just weird to cancel a date every week and then be confused why you’re not connecting with anyone…
It was clearly more than just being rejected by one guy. She seemed to be reliving old trauma and couldn’t pull it together and be present. Makes total sense to take some time to herself for the afternoon.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 exactly !! She would of known a week sooner if they hadn’t cancelled the cocktail party
Absolutley.... Rachel is all about Rachel..... the men who "Lose out on her" ..... Actually, "WIN".....
Rejection hurts, but Rachel is in Europe! She turns down a fun date around Belgium with guys that care crying over a guy she really doesn't care that much about. She has a group of guys that dwell on her, she has been on some great dates, and we see that she really enjoys kissing Zach, Tino, Aven, and Tyler. Rachel needs to pay attention to what she has rather than what she does not have.
I agree. Man, it hurt my soul that they missed out on Belgian chocolate!! It really is as delicious as you think. I bought so much when I was there 😂
@@AB-mx1de It is so good. I remember how good the train stations in Brussels smelled because of all the chocolate and waffles!
She is a wreck
Rachel appears to be narcissistic.....
Needs help adulting
everyone that’s upset that gabby kept logan should have been upset that rachel kept hayden. sorry i don’t make the rules🤷🏽♀️ plus logan was respectful given that we can all see how public humiliation makes rachel feel. how was he supposed to decline her rose? and the leads have all the power. so he might not have felt able to say anything sooner. or producer influence; so many factors at play.
I couldn’t agree more. If Rachel is allowed to keep Hayden, Gabby should not be shamed for keeping Logan.
Absolutely, Rachel thinks rules only apply to her....
I don’t think either of them should have kept either of them tbh
I believe both those decisions were production led
Honestly I feel like Rachel keeping Hayden around was way worse than Gabby giving Logan a chance. I really do feel like Rachel just got dibs on Logan and didn't give Gabby the opportunity to explore that relationship as a result. I don't hate how Logan handled himself. I do, however, hate how Hayden handled himself.
Tino: i feel unseen and wanted you to come prioritize us ... Rachel: Thank you
Rachel feels seen for Tino not feeling seen and she sees that that he sees that 🥲
lol jk this show is a mess
I completely agree with him.
@@hailey7368 You explained it so well! 😄
Tino is a loser, Rachel is a wreck. That might be a great relationship to watch as it implodes in spectacular fashion in front of millions of people lol
Does Gabby know another word besides yeah...its very annoying.....send Logan home
Okay but Logan couldn’t tell her at the cocktail party because she cancelled it…again.
He approached it well but Gabby should have sent him home. I think production is behind all of this just to bring more drama.
@@fluffytail6355 why send him home? He at least tried to have tact. And not to mention Rachel keeping Hayden…
I agree. Some people including Rachel are pressed because "he knew all along" and she gave him so many roses. He didn't know either of these women prior to this... I genuinely think he was trying to figure out his feelings and you can only do that by spending time with someone.... i.e. Rachel.. and there weren't very many opportunities, to bring it up sooner and he didn't want to do it in front of everyone. It was a tough situation for sure.
@@drishthesquish Who should've Rachel chosen then? The three men that rejected Rachel's rose and the 2 guys who rejected Gabby privately? Gabby confronted Jacob about his lying of saying "smoking" DURING the rose ceremony, which was edited out for some reason. At that point in time, Jacob hurt her more than Hayden had. (Gabby also called out Jacob's fake Instagram apology, which he never reached out to Gabby about.)
Idk why Rachel thinks no one likes her when Zach, Tino, and aven all are VERY CLEARLY there for her
The same way among a sea of positive comments, you often think of that one negative comment I imagine
It honestly seems like she's having mental health difficulties, I hope she is being looked after
And Tyler too
Insecurities aren't always rooted in reality, they persist regardless if they go unchecked.
I can’t imagine taking that much rejection in such a short period of time.
Rachel, you aren’t going to make any connection if you cancel every date and cocktail party. You can’t be upset when you’ve given them almost no time to genuinely get to know you. I feel like logan should of had the covo with rachel last episode im tired of rachel crying every damn episode
Every lead cancels dates. They don’t let them sleep for 6 weeks. Think about why they are presenting it this way, making her look like a drama queen
Yeah as much as I do like Rachel and she's perfectly valid for having insecurities, it doesn't make sense why she would cancel with the guys. It's almost like a classroom where one kid ruins it all for everyone.
Production probably canceled the date and made this their excuse. I still disagree with this. A dumb way to present the story.
@@NathanMellor I don't think production did it.
I think Rachel should have still went and it could have even cheered her up. She does have a great group of guys
I know Gabby jokes about how much she nods and says “yeah” but I just have to say I APPRECIATE that!! It shows that she’s such an active listener, always giving eye contact too! Such a good gal
Gabby is too funny and def my fave from the bachelor world,, I wish we could’ve gotten a full season focused on her 😩
I agree with you. I wish Gabby had been given her own season.
@@jenniferhansen3622 same
Totally ! I love her
Honestly like even Gabby’s group of guys just seem so cool. But with the dual season and the overload of drama, we are missing it all.
@@iridescent_skies seriously 😩
I think it was respectful for Logan to take the rose and tell her after since he didn't have a chance before. Rachel was very vocal about being so embarrassed being rejected in front of everyone so if he had said no to the rose she would have felt even worse than it made her feel to be rejected privately
I’m definitely ready for less crying and more romance/getting to know everyone better. I really do feel for Rachel and I honestly can’t even imagine being in her shoes and how I would react in her position (I’m sure I’d be even worse haha). But I also sympathize with the guys who are genuinely there for her and have had to deal with this week after week as well. I totally get their frustration but they did handle it well.
I don't think you could be worse. Rachel cries more than Ashley I.
Oh wow yeah I didn’t even think about that but she sure does!!
@@sbusisiweshaba1715 Omgg I remember Ashley I. Every convo she cried so much. Like over dramatic crying. Lol.
@@amandalidey329 Yeah she was always crying over that guy Jared, good thing it worked out perfectly in the end, for them.
It was good to see Gabby group's date free of Rachel's insecurities. I enjoyed Gabby's one on one with Johnny. Rachel have a great group of guys that is into her but it seems like she wants all the guys lusting after her so she feels desired. Logan leaving her team is a good thing that means she is one step closer in finding love with the right guy. At end of this there only one guy for her anyway so she should focus on the good connections. I am happy Gabby gave Logan a chance because she did had feelings for him but she step aside and let Rachel have him but now that Logan came to Gabby team I am happy Gabby talked to Rachel then followed her HEART and gave him a rose. Rachel said she hopes Gabby send Logan home but Rachel is being hypocritical because she gave her last rose to Hayden after Gabby told her the rude things he said to her. She did not take into account how Gabby feels...
Look up the 3 extra roses fiasco. It was not Rachel's fault.
Agreed on all points other than about Johnny, the man has the emotional maturity of someone you'd date in college, not someone you'd marry. I'm honestly dumbfounded by how he's operating at such a deficit in regards to being a complete and self examined person in comparison to Gabby.
I think all of this proves that Rachel is not ready for a relationship. She reminds me a lot of Greg and how he showcased what it would be like in a relationship with him because he hadn’t worked on himself and finding self love. As someone who has the same insecurities as Rachel, I fully get why she reacts the way she does. But that also fully means that like Greg, she needs therapy not a relationship.
Imagine she and Tino or whoever end up together. No doubt she would be like this all the time. Instead of finding that fulfillment and happiness for herself, she’d be leaning on them to do that all the time. And while yes, a partner is meant to be supportive and to cheer you up, it’s not on them to 1. Be the only one lifting you up and 2. Do all the work for you.
Rachel has sadly demonstrated that she is not ready for this. She needs to work on herself.
Absolutely true.
Amen! You can definitely tell that there is a deeper issue than this show or these guys. There is a root cause behind all of these tears.
She wants 100 percent attention on her at all times idk what her insecurities are but she should be way more confident and fuck them dudes that are not consistent
For sure. Rejection hurts but it's clear she bases too much of her self worth on exterior things (the men and their attraction to her in this case). I don't think it's entirely is based on age because some people never overcome this insecurity, but she definitely has a lot of growing up to do imo
I agree 100%. That chick needs therapy and even perhaps an ayahuasca ceremony in order to figure out shit. She would be a nightmare to date. However at least Rachel did say something quite insightful, she commented that she's the worse Bachelorette ever.....she's up there that's for sure.
Traveling is one of my favorite things to do. Nothing would keep me from exploring a new city, certainly not a guy I wasn’t even going to pick. I don’t understand moping around on a ship when you’re in Bruges!
My exact thoughts!!!
I get where Tino was coming from. If he and Rachel had such a strong connection, surely she would want to spend time with him. Yes , she must have felt bad but she of all people know how little time there is to make connections stronger.
I feel like the guys actually there for Rachel are getting blown off
To be fair, production and Jesse probably convinced Logan not to say anything last episode since there was already plenty of drama with Hayden.
i think he was going to say it during the cocktail party but it was cancelled lol
They 100% didn't let him tell her.
This is a clear example how people can interprete a situation at different ways. Gabby was rejected too, she cried, expressed her feelings and tried to move forward from that. I don´t blame Rachel but she is stuck in the same situation and that is not allowing her to enjoy or see the positive things, like the fact that she has amazing guys like Tino, Tyler, Aven and Zack
Gabby has had a lot of therapy.
@@GAMEoVIDZ it shows. Rachel needs to try it too.
Fluffy Tail I can’t imagine anyone on this show not needing therapy afterwards. Lol
And Ethan
@@gl2461 fr don’t leave out Ethan although I feel like he’s heading out next week 😬
I understand Logan’s predicament, he got no time to talk with Rachel before the ceremony last week because of the Hayden situation. That being said, I know it sucks getting rejected, but Rachel takes everything so personally that I can’t help but feel bad for her men. To me a good partner is going to see you in your worst moments and be there to help you, the fact that Rachel runs away so often would worry me if I was dating her.
Yes she’s giving me cry baby vibes
My brother in law actually watches the show with my sister and I and while watching this episode, he that he would’ve left Rachel by that point due to the lack of her spending time with them and the fact that she takes everything way too personal
Major snowflake!!!
Agreed. I do think the Logan thing would’ve hurt, even if he had been the first to leave, but that was a great opportunity for her to go to her guys and be vulnerable and hurt and see who stepped up!!
I laughed so much at that intro montage and also the Gabby “yeah mm hmm” montage omg 🤣🤣
As a person who reacts emotionally to stressful situations, I really feel for Rachel, and she has obviously been significantly impacted by rejections. It’s hard to watch that knowing all the great guys that are fully invested in her, but I understand how a rejection can make her forget the good things, even if that’s not logical. I just hope she has a positive week in there somewhere. 😅
Self pity is not an attractive quality.
She needs counselling
That’s a “her” problem
Rejection is never easy! Anyone who says differently I have to wonder how honest and self aware they are.
What you kidding? .... Blah blah blah Gabby's mother left her.
Honestly, I feel bad for Rachel and Rachel’s men. They really are missing out on the whole “bachelorette” experience rn
I feel like no one would watch this show if she was the only one there!...can you imagine Rachel being the only Bachelorette!!!! No shade but it would be boring AF!!!
@@naledimosikara7861 true.
Agree 💯they’re in Belgium and Rachel is crying in her room. What!!?? Guys… those are red flags 🚩 for sure!
Rachel is bringing the drama on herself
@@naledimosikara7861 honestly I feel like we would be seeing a completely different Rachel if she were the only bachelorette. I think a lot of her insecurities stem from having to "compete" with another bachelorette and having another woman there to compare herself to that some of the men prefer better. Normally the lead doesn't have to worry about facing so much rejection. If she were the only bach then all of the attention and focus would be on her and she would be the only one being pursued and desired, which I think would make all the difference. Rachel _preens_ under attention. If she were the solo bach then I think we'd be seeing a much more giggly, happy go lucky, school girl with a crush-esque Rachel.
Your intro really drives home how Rachel is coming across as the annoying part of the episode we just trudge through while Gabby is the fun love story we all wanna see. The editors really did her dirty here showcasing every single ounce of drama related to her love story. I feel so bad for Rachel.
Me too. And so many people are buying it, it makes me sick. This is an editing trick + she's being manipulated + people are exaggerating her reactions beyond what's honestly on screen + she's allowed to have feelings. So weird how people are willing to demonize a woman with such glee.
Re-watch the episode when Gabby told Rachel that a man left her to pursue Rachel.... Rachel couldn't even contain her excitement with the smirk on her face... She is so fake and narcissistic....
I don't ... she cries every episode, it seems! It just looks like a little bit too much ...
@@AlexandraK1 that’s only because the editors are always showing her crying. They are making an active choice to show us more negative footage over more positive footage. Think about how in previous seasons they completely skipped group dates because it suited the editing. A simple fix to lighten the negativity in this episode would’ve been to just skip the whole fact that she skipped the group date. Honestly you can edit around the fact she was upset from Logan
@@tesskellogg All of the comments on this video have been calling Rachel a wreck, stupid, etc. It's also disappointing everyone's angry at her for keeping Hayden when none of them know about Rachel being given three extra roses, and Gabby confronting Jacob during the RC.
With all due respect to Rachel, she should be happy with and focused on the wonderful men who are there for her rather than be upset about those who weren't. So much time has been wasted not getting to know them better because of tears shed for those who didn't deserve her.
So much time had been wasted WATCHING her cry, whine and complain. So frustrating!!!!
I wouldn't say she wasted tears on those who didn't deserve her..... rather men who woke up to her narcissism.... They truly dogged a bullet.....
I don't know if anyone would behave differently if they had to deal with rejection after rejection. I think she's in a pressure cooker right now where she probably feels the weight of being the bachelorette, activities being planned every single day, and not much time to herself to reflect. She might not be like this in real life. I think people forget this is a show and not a great reflection of somebody at their absolute best.
Should've been a Gabby solo season
I agree.
Gabby's brain must have whiplash by now as she nods CONSTANTLY while the men talk to her. It NEVER STOPS! 🤯(Bachelorette bobblehead opportunity...) And Rachel could cure the drought here in NV CRYING!! 😭😭😭😭😭
Rachel and Tino are the best match. He will call her out on her crap and challenge her to think outside herself. Zach is too nice for all of this. Would like to see him as Bachelor. We need another Sean Lowe season
I’m glad he said to her that these cancellations make him and the guys feel unwanted and unseen. They’re actually trying to make an effort. If she doesn’t try to give that effort back, she’s a hypocrite.
I think Tino is a good match for her
gabby's 'yeah' montage sent me lmao
Kudos! Fantake is so much more entertaining than the actual show!!!
I know, you don't really have to watch the show hahaha.
Crying over a guy that doesn't care for her, but letting the guys that actually care for her get's stood up from the date.
I understand the frustration with Rachel, but we can’t pretend that we’d all be strong and perfect if we were in the same position. Sure she could’ve done things differently, but foresight is everything and I’m sure this is all much harder than we’re getting a glance at. I don’t believe for a second that a bunch of the people hating on her would do HALF as well as she’s doing
Gabby is a fan favorite and lots of the initial guys showed interest in her. I'm willing to bet Gabby also being a Bachelorette is adding to Rachel's turmoil and insecurities.
Her follower count on Instagram too.
Nate talking for that fish😩❤ someone give this man his own show.
Yeah, I found that endearing.
Almost made me forgive how weird it was to pick up random children in the park.
@@mundaneamazing your comment is weird
Good point..Fluffy Tail.
The two-timer transphobe totally deserves his own show...
aw he seems very sweet
I really don’t think Logan did anything wrong. He said something as soon as he was sure and had an opportunity to talk to them. I think that he went into the season with an open mind and persued both like they were supposed to!
I don’t even like the bachelorette, but your recaps are so good I still watch them.
Rachel: Cries
Gabby: *Nods* Yea
Gabby’s dates were a breath of fresh air!!! I love Rachel, but the constant drama was draining me. I hope she realizes that she has an amazing line-up of guys that are truly there for her.
I thought it was weird that they were picking up the kids also 😂
While it may be a bit of frustration for the men having 2 Bachelorettes (understatement) I love the fact that these women are supporting each other instead of the usual catfight/drama that one might expect from this unique dynamic. I don't know the correct synonym for 'bromance' with regard to females but these 2 gals have allegedly had each other's backs with little or no direction. Looove it ❤️
Oh poor Meatball maybe we’ll learn your real name in Paradise😂😂😂😂 I laughed
Gabbby's outfits have been my favorite on The Bachelorette yet! Only rival is JoJo!
I haven't liked many of her outfits. The green one this episode just looked like a tiny nighty
I am the only one who is obsessed with the recaps. Literally scouting youtube til u post. This is not healthy
There’s a whole hive of us. I can’t wait for the new preview breakdown! There was a lot in it.
Yes! And I do t even watch the show.
Producers: wE wonT cOMpARe ThEM wHAt aRe yOU TAlKing aBOut
While I think that Logan may be truly interested in Gabby, I don't think he has any legitimate interest in wanting to pursue a relationship with her. The way he was speaking in the ITM interviews made it sound like he was more excited about beating the other men than he was about getting a second chance to get to know Gabby.
He’s more attracted to Gabby, but he isn’t there to find love
@@IsThisThePrizeIveWaitedFor exactly
i doubt it, if that were the case he would’ve stayed on Rachel’s side, less men less competition and more screen time.
Finished catching up with all of this seasons recaps just in time!
When I tell you I was JUST thinking about your channel. Thank you for giving me a reason to neglect my research paper and have a wonderful day, Fantake :)
This recap is hilarious!! With all the drama/laugh contrast during the first minutes and all the "yeah" and "hmm" from Gabby ...sooo funny!!
Played a drinking game for the first time for this episode, can’t say I remember a lot, this recap is appreciated🤝😂
😂 😆 HAHAHA GOOD ONE!!!
Been waiting for your recap fantake!
Thanks for helping me laugh on day I really needed it, love your content
Let’s be real, who want a person who is always crying and complaining about everything when the relationship is not even that deep. I would have chosen Gabby too even after coming for Rachel first. Enjoy every day 💖 life’s short and to cancel exploring Belgium 😫
Tino is Rachel's F1 and Erich is Gabby's F1. Zach (F3) self-eliminated the day after fantasy suites and Rachel broke up with Aven (F2).
Gabby sent Nate home on a date because she wasn't ready to be a stepmom. Jason is her F2, Johnny her F3.
You can't be talking with a name like Dahlia
Someone give this channel an award. I haven’t watched squat of any of these seasons but I get to experience the gist of the juicy stuff through his videos and glorious commentary.
10/10 best binge fest I’ve had in a while
I'm sorry but I don't even feel bad for Rachel anymore.
Logan to me seemed to end things in a respectful, delicate way, clearly trying not to hurt Rachel's feelings.
An yet, she falls apart, when honestly girl was he ever really a top 2, or 3 guy? Like why focus on that, if he wasn't even going to be your end game
Exactly! This show is not only about her journey. The guys have to stay true to themselves as well.
@@guidadennis2806 poor men omg
Oh man I love Bachelor Fantake’s commentary it is too hilarious! 😂🤣😂
I agree with what everyone is saying in regards to Logan and Rachel. I think Rachel has some serious insecurities and I feel like her not going on the group date shows another added side to her insecurities. Instead of saying "f#$% this guy, I'm gona go have fun with the other guys that I'm literally more interested in (because let's be honest, Logan was not gona be in her top 3), she instead cries over this dumb guy who's not worth her time. I know it's hard because she's been getting hurt back to back, so I completely get it, and honestly I would wonder if something was wrong with me too. But she was more sad about getting rejected again than Logan leaving, and it's honestly more "humiliating" that she let that ruin her day and not go on a group date than her getting rejected. Everyone gets rejected, it's really not a big deal. I feel really bad for Rachel and honestly I don't see her relationship at the end of this lasting very long because she is going to pile all of her insecurities onto her partner.
Can't wait to see how Big Tony reacts to how production has been setting his daughter up for failure.
Yeah, he will have to blame someone instead of his, "little girl".
Meatball makes me think of Peter Brady from the Brady Bunch! And Rachel gives Jan Brady energy!
And Jesse Palmer was channeling Mike Brady when he sat down to have a talk with Rachel! 😂
rachel always reminded me of a 70s covergirl/ 70s pilot lol
Thanks so much - I want to know what happens, but I'm finding I have little tolerance now to sit through these episodes. 😂
I record it then fast forward through a lot of it
You are the best! Thank you!
The editing is amazing
Rachel, why would you think you are a bad Bachelorette? The job of a bachelorette is to eliminate people, and you are doing that. Of course, it's also to choose an eventual winner, and it looks like she'll be able to do that too.
She's obviously upset because most bachelorette's don't get rejected as much as she has. SHE'S supposed to do the eliminating but everyone is eliminating themselves.
@@xxmakeuplover05xx It isn't nice what the producers have done in stacking things against her. But if she were the only person doing the eliminating it just means she'd keep people that don't want her. People eliminating themselves is tough, but it's not a bad thing for the end result.
I'm not unsympathetic to Rachel. I can only imagine how embarrassing that would be to have several men completely reject you on such a public platform. But girl, you have to push through that and focus on the men that are there for you. After all, at the the end of the day all you really need is one guy that is truly into you for this to be a success.
Tbf to logan didn't they also cancel that cocktail party so he didn't get to talk to her? Better to wait then another rose ceremony rejection imo
Meatball’s real name is James. Rachel used it in a previous episode very briefly in an interview with the producers.
this is perfect, saves so much time!!!!
I’ve always been a fan of bachelor fantake, and now that a breaking bad clip/reference has been included in a recap and I’m from Albuquerque, my love for bachelor fantake has increased even more haha
I'm in Rio Rancho & agree with you! 💜
Not sure if it is the editing or what but this feels like the most vapid season of the Bachelorette yet.
Especially after Michelle's season. Michelle did an amazing job.
@@auspicious93 I agree Taysha did a good job of letting the deeper stuff come up naturally. Her conversation were so easy and postive.
Agree, both Michelle and Taysha were skilled communicators. Good shows, less drama, more fun.
Love the Gabby vs Rachel experience thing. Really captures the essence of the episode
I cackled so loud at the stranger danger part
If I was one of the other guys there for Rachel, I would be so upset she cancelled the date. I’d definitely wonder if there was something bigger going on with Logan that I didn’t know about.
It’s like she doesn’t realize there are several really strong contenders there for her, and only her. I get why she was upset, and feel for her, but you gotta make the other guys feel “seen” as Tino put it.
She’s stuck on a “why me” mentality and is probably conscious of looking like an undesirable bachelorette. She’s gotta get her head out of her ass before she misses out on something great
Jesse was the star 🌟of the episode. He did a great job of consoling Rachel, ABC gave that man a raise.
I was skeptical of him being the host but he has really surprised me! He’s so much better than Chris Harrison.
He just kind of threw a bunch of sports metaphors at her lol
The playbook joke was awesome!!!
It was so selfish of Rachel to cancel her date. AGAIN inconsiderate of her!
She already got 4 strikes of inconsiderate behavior.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 EXACTLY
woah we got some youtube diagnosis happening with these unsolicited and rude comments. it is actually hilarious that you think you know her enough to deduce all this bs 😂. Apparently y'all are the epitome of a perfect human with no flaws, you should try out for the bachelorette! lmao
@@swoonve if I was the bachelorette, the show would be done in week 2!
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 I don't think she's a narcissist but I dont think she's ever had rejection from men before and it's turning her world upsidedown.. especially being broadcast to the world
Strikes LMFAOOOOO are you critical of Bachelors?
Have you read the tea on Nate? Reality Steve’s blog- it is spoiler free. Nate basically dated two women at the same time, and never told his girlfriend of 1.5 years that he had a kid & was married!
Oh, yes. It just kept getting worse. I'm so disappointed. I did feel like Nate was super immature and didn't think he would be end game, but he was still a top pick for me. Definitely not anymore after seeing the hurt he had caused.
That’s disappointing. He’s my favourite so far.
I’m not even surprised I could see that a mile away!
@@DC-sh7ud okay so somehow I did not pick up on the red flags outside of him seeming a little bit immature. What gave it away for you?
People can change though! It’s not a great history, but time and work to grow can change someone’s behavior
I wish Rachel would understand how humiliating it is to tell Gabby over and over again, "I have never been so humiliated in my life to have men choose, (someone like) you over ME!...." What a stab in the heart....
If she loves Gabby, as she claims, she would be excited when some of the men prefer Gabby....
Rachel is all about Rachel! She treats the men and Gabby as if she is the only one who deserves love and kindness....
I don't think it's that simple. I think she genuinely loves Gabby, she's insecure and dealing with some trauma around rejection/abandonment. I can only imagine how diving into an experiment like this could mess with you if you don't have a solid sense of self and it makes me feel sad for her. She's in her own way right now and I'm hoping she can realize that while watching this back. Also rooting for her friendship with Gabby, I think they can learn a lot from one another.
@@diamcole A compassionate person can put themself in the shoes of others..... Rachel has been unable to put herself in the shoes of Gabby, or the men.... (as she continues to cancel dates/ rose ceremonies; And continues to show a lack of compassion for the men who enjoy Gabby)....
It was troubling to see Rachel smirking/ holding back laughter, when Gabby told her a man decided to stop pursuing her for Rachel, (earlier episode)....
I mean honestly she’s known gabby for what, a year at best? I think the “best friend” thing is very played up
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 I agree completely; Rachel shows strong characteristics of narcissism..... I just didn't want to use that word on this channel... 😀
@@exnihilonihilfit6316please don't even try to justify defining someone as narcissistic based off an edited, over-produced TV show where two women are, yes, being pitted against each other and producers are steering them towards getting rejected for ratings. She's being rejected publicly, she's probably low on food and sleep, her producer is probably egging her reactions on.... I don't think many of us would handle all that well
I feel like it is really not fair for everyone to gang up on Rachel. She's very sensitive and has a very hard time handling rejection, obviously. Gabby's different in that she has dealt with rejection from her mom, gone to therapy and also uses humor as a coping mechanism rather than crying. Why people always love to hate a woman for "crying too much" is beyond me.
Absolutely, people aren't even trying to see Rachel's side or imagine how it would be. Not everyone handles things the same way.
Jesse handled this beautifully. Confirmed Rachel in her valid feelings of being rejected again.
We can all learn from Jesse, how to be empathetic with others: not trying to tell others how they should feel or not feel.
Way to go brother!!
Did you watch Jesse's season? It was a JOKE. Jesse at 40 plus can advise Rachel because he has matured, but Jesse can not tell Rachel squat from his playboy Bachelor season at age 25. He could not even remember their names and gave a rose to the wrong girl. (Yes. We were told that when it happened)
Jesse's Final choice was given a 1 way ticket to NYC, and that was the last we heard of their romance.
She returned home and went back to school.
@@meredithparkins4379 I did not watch Jesse’s season. Is or was he messed up? Has he matured? I am not super invested in all this, just thought he handled Rachel’s feeling with validation and kindness.
Thankfully we can all learn and grow, should we choose.
Curious your thoughts on why they chose Jesse for this role?
Jesse Palmer was a 25 year old QB (not the main one) for one of the two NY pro teams. At the time the Bachelor was really into getting a football player, a doctor, a prince (of anything), legacy of big names, etc., for their male leads.
Jesse fit the bill for pro football player, but Jesse was a single guy, a playboy around NYC, whose quote on the intro was that he was ready to find somebody because he was tired of a different face next to his on the pillow .when he woke up in the morning..
There was nothing serious about Jesse's season, and as it turned out, Jesse was close to 40 before he settled with one woman and married.
What came out was that Jesse wanted a job with ESPN, and he could get experience in front of the camera by being on the Bachelor.
All that said, Jesse is now over 40. With age, he has matured, and he can give the ladies the benefit of that experience.
Gabby said to Jason last week “it’s hard to find a man who appreciates therapy” and now she’s listening to Johnny say “I should probably talk to someone about this but🤷” and she didn’t take that as a red flag??
Oh my gosh, YES!! So often the guys see this as a good sign that they are opening up for the first time, but you should be talking to A THERAPIST about this not a girl on a reality show!
I actually disagree, there are a lot of roadblocks that could prevent someone from seeking therapy (the high cost being one of many). It doesn't excuse the men from dumping their trauma on the lead. But the roadblocks are something to consider because the first step is usually realizing you want to do better and that a professional could help.
@@jules4742 I totally commend Johnny for it, but I also won't blame Gabby when she ultimately dumps him because she'd rather have someone who had done the work.
@@jules4742 we see in the preview next week, gabby walking away from Johnny and saying “I don’t want a boy I want a man” so I meannnnnn…..
@@tesskellogg yesss that’s what I’m sayinnn
10:05 aww gabby is so sweet
daaaaaaaaamn people are hard on rachel in the comments. But yeah, het final 3 is already picked. If I were her I'd just focus on building super strong connections with those three, rather than still having to worry about extras
That first minute, fantake, sums up the entire 2 hr episode!!!🙂
LOVE the Brooklyn 99 clips lol
I really hope they have professional counselors available any time to all of them preferably in person but at least remotely.
That’s what I was thinking when Rachel was talking to Jesse.
No one:
Gabby: "yeah" "totally" "mmhhmm"
Rachel is so upset cause Logan said he wants Gabby, like.... you have no emotional connection to this guy. It’s just her ego that’s hurt.
Idk something about Tino just seems off(and I don’t mean it in a he’s sketchy way but he just seems too perfect…). Tino may be saying he would be ok with staying with the kids while Rachel is flying but I get the vibe that if she actually chooses him, he’ll quickly change his tune and expect her to put her career on a back burner and become the homemaker; while he gets to keep working. Now if Rachel is fine with that then great but she made it a point to mention on their one on one date that she likes her job and wants to continue working even when she has kids. Tino is saying all the right things but I just get the feeling that in the real world he would be running everything.
He seems narcissistic and manipulative. Enough to turn Rachel's pain into his loss of a good day in Belgium. Notice he had not a single word about how she might have felt/be feeling that day?
The playbook thing made me laugh out loud
I really hope Mario and Michael are on Bachelor in Paradise. That was such a terrible way to go.
Yeah Michael looked like he was on the verge of tears 😭
I think Rachel referred to meatball as James in week 4 during the Rambo convo.
As of this current episode (disregarding what might come in the preview) I don’t think Logan did anything wrong!!! IMO, He handled it the best he could to the best of his abilities
Regardless, Gabby should have sent him home when he changed teams
@@fluffytail6355 but Rachel kept Hayden after he said Gabby was rough around the edges. Logan honestly hasn’t done anything nearly that offensive
@@fluffytail6355 Why? Isn't Gabby allowed to see if they have a connection?
We should get a count on how many times Gabby says "ya" in an episode
Everyone in the comments is saying that Rachel needs to handle rejection better and maybe she does. However, this poor girl has been rejected week after week. I’d be upset too. It’s embarrassing enough being rejected in front of the entire cast and crew but she knows all of us will be watching this too. Not only is it embarrassing, it’s also a giant blow to your confidence. One rejection or two is fine. But so many? Yeah I feel really bad for her.
Rachel is getting exhausting. Also I feel like the guys are low key tired of her constant drama 😅😵💫 (don’t kill me)
They are dodging a bullet with her....
100% agree. In this episode I think you can finally see her men start to get hella annoyed
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Rachel and Gabby are engaged to Tino and Erich, respectively. Zach (F3) self-eliminated the day after fantasy suites and Rachel broke up with Aven (F2). Gabby sent Nate home on a date because she wasn't ready to be a stepmom. Jason is her F2, Johnny her F3.
During the fish slapping date all I could picture is the Jonah Veggietales movie... please tell me I wasn't the only one haha
No, you aren't alone 😉
OMG LMAO the Aaron Paul clip!!! Genius!
I love Nate's inner child coming out on the group date.
I don't think he'll make it to the absolute end because Gabby doesn't feel ready to take on a child yet, especially not her own.
The best!! 😍
@@ottergirl1913 I agree. And there’s a baby mama in the background too. I don’t think she’s ready for any of that.
@@fluffytail6355 apparently he cheated on one of his childrens mother too. He’s not going far
If Elvis & Handsome Squidward had a baby, it would be Tino… phew I had to get that off of my chest
And I thought only my family made references to “Handsome Squidward”. Nice observation!
Underrated comment 😂
I gave this season enough chances to make me like the double bachelorette concept and the verdict is in: I don't like it. I think I would've enjoyed a whole season with only Gabby as bachelorette a lot more. It's just a maturity thing for me.
after i watched the show UnReal reality shows like this are really hard to see. so thanks for the recap since my usual watching while getting drunk with the boys is no longer an option for me.