Great set, and fun commentary! I just wanted to point out one significant error by the commentators. It is NOT true that Riddles will "take a mile" if the opponent lets him. Riddles will take a kilometer; he is Canadian and uses the metric syst-- hey stop throwing bricks at me i'll be good i promise
Emm Bee Sea you should watch Gyo Vs. Awestin, Gyo did SD a lot of times during this set and if he hadn’t I think he would have won this set but still a very close and good set
HyperToxBox64 vs fast characters like fox or sonic do you think he can approach them well? I do think ness plays more defensive vs fast characters if I’m not mistaken
BestNess and Awestine are the 2 that took sets off Pgr players, Fow and Gackt are great too but not on that level. IMO BestNess Will eventually become #1 as he's the one that travel the most.
Bestness is the best ness til awestin starts traveling. Dittos don’t dictate whos better cause that just shows who’s better at the ditto matchup. Awestin is the best at pk2 set ups tho Forsure.
I’m not at top lvl or good for that matter, but I think riddles spot doges a little more than he should and if ppl get the download on it ppl could exploit it
all i learned from this is that simon and richter are annoting af to play because all they do is spam specials. And people are going to say "WelL NeSs UsEd Pk FiRe" bro the PK fire to richter special ratio is fucking off its like 3:19999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
Wow, bestness narrowly lost to 2 amazing players. 3-2 against samsora and last hit, last stock game 5 vs riddles? With a few minor improvements this could have been top 8 for him
I feel like people are just taking sides on how cheap or lame certain characters are like sheep and just ignore the gameplay. This I will have to go against, but not fully against. Yes, there are characters that have annoying kits like the Belmonts and the Mother Kids, but I feel like they shouldn’t just focus on the characters players play. I would say it is rather how the players use those characters that are more so the source of the annoyance. With this being the case, all characters in the game have the possibility of being annoying,cheap,or lame, including the basic like Mario and the stylish like Falcon. I just sort feel like people aren’t just putting their reasons for their ideals into enough detail, though I could wrong about that. Overall, it is mostly the players’ play style that make the characters seem lame, cheap, or annoying. At least from my perspective.
yeah and I would say both best ness and riddles have amazing not cheap play styles. The thing is more casual players that think they are competitive don't know how to zone and space themselves so all they do is complain about fair characters... and other causual players play ness and win against others with no skill because neither player has skill. IF that makes sense.
@@jobliar937 I never listen to casuals all they do is call characters cheap and broken when they don't like someone who wins with them, casuals seem to think pros are all carried by the characters.
"They can easily delete stocks in seconds" No... no they can't. When playing as Richter you will hardly ever get a three stock win unless playing against a fucking goofball and even then they still might kill you twice with the right character. MOST Richter matches end up being by the skin of our teeth.
TheVersatileHunter did you not watch this match? it’s not like BestNess just got to sit on his ass and do nothing to take stocks. And Belmonts and the Mother kids can both be played really degenerately, but neither of these players did so
@@dumithegreat3892 I just fckn get riled up by the pk thunder tail gimp because it's so anticlimactic and boring, you're defo right that he uses him really well, it's mainly just that part of the character's kit that I don't like :(
Great set, and fun commentary! I just wanted to point out one significant error by the commentators. It is NOT true that Riddles will "take a mile" if the opponent lets him. Riddles will take a kilometer; he is Canadian and uses the metric syst-- hey stop throwing bricks at me i'll be good i promise
Hahaha
Who knew a Ness vs. Richter set could be so tense?
Good stuff to both players.
Emm Bee Sea you should watch Gyo Vs. Awestin, Gyo did SD a lot of times during this set and if he hadn’t I think he would have won this set but still a very close and good set
Me and my home boy have Richter vs Lucas sets it’s always pretty fun lol
I felt that
Ness and richter take skill tho
@@EduardoC ness and richter/simon dont take much skill
That game 3 comeback was beautiful, Riddles is quickly becoming my new favorite player to watch.
Agreed, im tired if that Joker nonsense so is cool to see some new characters and faces
SD_JAEZ and Pokémon trainers
Mine too, didn't think I could enjoy Richter playstyles, but Riddles is so nice to watch. I'm glad that he made it.
J Lebleu joker pubstomps
Yeah, just saw the pools match with MkLeo's Joker. Match was hype! Definitely hoping for more Riddles.
"Riddles, the pride of his country here"
LOL Ally not even a thing anymore. He got YEETED.
I mean for good reason
@Rodolfo Pizarro He had sexual relations with a minor
@Rodolfo Pizarro oh ok. Forgot with who tbh
Rodolfo Pizarro : other way around. It was captain Zack who harassed Ally. He blackmailed ally to rigged matches
10:30 LMAO Max tryna point out that the match ended at 4:20 on the timer without saying it was one of the funniest commentary moments from smashcon
18:56 nobody gonna y’all about how he fell off the stage
What?
Its not too late to edit this
bestness looks like lucas
sockman50 adult Lucas
I love Riddles' pop offs. That handshake with ANTi tho. Pretty sure Riddles is highly respected by the entire community at this point.
Yeah I loved that handshake too!
after his ken game vs mkleo, he's easily one of my favorites
LETS GO RIDDLES, BEST BELMONT IN THE WORLD
SO great to see some high level Richter gameplay in tournament!
How do 2 of the most defensive characters in the game have one of the most hype matchups?
Ness isn't that 'defensive' if he doesn't want to be. His high airspeed and safe, disjointed aerials allow him to approach quite well
Ness isnt defensive at all lol
HyperToxBox64 vs fast characters like fox or sonic do you think he can approach them well? I do think ness plays more defensive vs fast characters if I’m not mistaken
@@aquaex6 Having a good projectile and chase game doesn't mean you're always passive. I totally agree that the game is more complex than that.
Are you thinking of Lucas? Lucas is the one who plays on the backfoot, Ness goes all in.
BestNess looking clean af, definately the only pro player that uses 100% of Ness kit
John Lopez Awestin is amazing and arguably the best ness but he doesn’t use all of ness’ tools. That’s why fundamentals > everything.
Hold on now, let’s not forget about Gackt
BestNess and Awestine are the 2 that took sets off Pgr players, Fow and Gackt are great too but not on that level.
IMO BestNess Will eventually become #1 as he's the one that travel the most.
rospoho idk. Gackt actually recently beat BestNess
Bestness is the best ness til awestin starts traveling. Dittos don’t dictate whos better cause that just shows who’s better at the ditto matchup. Awestin is the best at pk2 set ups tho Forsure.
Thank you for representing Toronto! Amazing set!
Jonathan Joestar vs koichi
Joseph joestar*
This set was soooo good
Me: hey mom I just asked out a girl
Mom: oh, how did it go?
Me: 13:26
This was like watching Brawl but with stuff constantly happening even without major wombo combos every 5 seconds.
These guys have the literal same voice, I'm convinced he went back and added responses to himself
Very good though
18:37 The face of pure excitement
Okay, Riddles just turns super saiyen when he's on last stock...!
That's insane !! o.0
Hard to do if your not a Saiyan just saying.
1:24 "the boomerang, the cross, the axe" lol what boomerang?
I was a ness main , but now im a Belmont
Ness the boi vs richter the boi, tough to choose someone to root for
Richter obviously
Riddle fall at 13:27. Ouch!
Riddles is fucking sick!!! Too bad he only placed 13th but still amazing matches, amazing upsets! Lets go Riddles!
Nah Richter
I’m not at top lvl or good for that matter, but I think riddles spot doges a little more than he should and if ppl get the download on it ppl could exploit it
These guys are pros they can adjust and mixup attacks, u think ppl riddles will keep being obvious with spot dodged if they punished it lol.
Who's who? Right guy Ness?
all i learned from this is that simon and richter are annoting af to play because all they do is spam specials. And people are going to say "WelL NeSs UsEd Pk FiRe" bro the PK fire to richter special ratio is fucking off its like 3:19999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
Wow, bestness narrowly lost to 2 amazing players. 3-2 against samsora and last hit, last stock game 5 vs riddles? With a few minor improvements this could have been top 8 for him
I'm surprised we don't see more of BestNess batting away the axe and boomerang
13:26 Riddle me that
Fighting the Belmonts is so fucking annoying with all the projectiles
Exactly, I would've been given up. Plus I'd get so annoyed that it would affect my gameplay and I'd lose anyway lol.
Why does Armada look like he bullies main protagonists?
I love Riddles.
Great set holy crap!
I feel like people are just taking sides on how cheap or lame certain characters are like sheep and just ignore the gameplay. This I will have to go against, but not fully against. Yes, there are characters that have annoying kits like the Belmonts and the Mother Kids, but I feel like they shouldn’t just focus on the characters players play. I would say it is rather how the players use those characters that are more so the source of the annoyance. With this being the case, all characters in the game have the possibility of being annoying,cheap,or lame, including the basic like Mario and the stylish like Falcon. I just sort feel like people aren’t just putting their reasons for their ideals into enough detail, though I could wrong about that. Overall, it is mostly the players’ play style that make the characters seem lame, cheap, or annoying. At least from my perspective.
yeah and I would say both best ness and riddles have amazing not cheap play styles. The thing is more casual players that think they are competitive don't know how to zone and space themselves so all they do is complain about fair characters... and other causual players play ness and win against others with no skill because neither player has skill. IF that makes sense.
@@jobliar937 I never listen to casuals all they do is call characters cheap and broken when they don't like someone who wins with them, casuals seem to think pros are all carried by the characters.
BestNess is so good!
Awesome comeback
I forgot riddles played Richter
Butt clenched fifth game for sure
YEAH BABY! after that ugly sd that finish was fkn fantastic
"They can easily delete stocks in seconds" No... no they can't. When playing as Richter you will hardly ever get a three stock win unless playing against a fucking goofball and even then they still might kill you twice with the right character. MOST Richter matches end up being by the skin of our teeth.
Guy'That ax thick
Other guy: honestly!
4:48
Lost the whole set off of that SD :/
Riddles dropped a game on an SD too. Not fair to look at one mistake and say that was the difference.
@@fleasy4393 The difference is Riddles SD'd when he was already getting dicked on. For bestness it was a game deciding sd
@@alexanderredhorse1297 okay
Sd counts doesn't matter can't blame your loss on an sd and take away ppls wins, everyone has sd in games
@@syunafrost351 I wasn’t playing the game
Canada 🇨🇦 loves you bro
Simón and Richter are so spamers
What was Sakurai thinking
Back when he didn't have online to carry him.
Huh???
pleTHORa btw
I hope one of the commentators makes a pun with Nessessary
Damn BN you let me down man
Riddles' pop off 😂😂
😱 that was insane
ness jump and press a. such an easy character. not to mention free backthrow kills
Cough mean the Belmont's right?
This is how competitive Smash should be played. And with some amazing commentators
Best ness is poppt1
heartbreaking for bestness
more respect for ness than I do richter the spam hurts bro
UPDATE: WAY MORE RESPECT FOR NESS
Wow, what a sorprise... worstness losing again
Riddles got serious in game 3
that spacing
Let's fuckin go riddles
Game 3. NANI?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Need to use grabs more and psi magnet
BestNess is the best Ness! So unfortunate to see him go down.
Definitely awestin
JB no one is clearly the best ness player. They’re all really good and pretty close.
Utah represent!
正直ガクトネスより距離詰めるのうまい。相手リヒターがあまり飛び道具まかないのもあるが。
0:34 1000 iq by best nes
pandarian is cute
Noooo
Rids a great player, and I know teir list don’t matter thab much but I definitely think he should use someone else
Doesn't he have a Ken as secondary?
Gandora Silver yes, played him against leo
Big sad
The Ness Player reminds me of Sasuke - he looks so damn cool
Waouh
Riddles the poo
Riddles is fcing bad
Ness Is Just So Annoying, I Can Thank My Friend For Ruining the Ness Experience In Smash, and Donkey Kong
God I hate Ness, such a degenerate character, gimped riddles hard in game 4 even though he was playing better
TheVersatileHunter did you not watch this match? it’s not like BestNess just got to sit on his ass and do nothing to take stocks. And Belmonts and the Mother kids can both be played really degenerately, but neither of these players did so
@@dumithegreat3892 I just fckn get riled up by the pk thunder tail gimp because it's so anticlimactic and boring, you're defo right that he uses him really well, it's mainly just that part of the character's kit that I don't like :(
@@theversatilehunter3651 that's totally fair haha. it is pretty weird when someone gets gimped in such a stupid way.
I hate Richters
I despise Richter... such an unfun character to play against. Just want to kms the entire game
Two characters i hate and have no respect for this is gonna be fun
Ew the quality
Sorry but not sorry, Richter/Simon players arent good, they just spam B lmao
Maybe the bad ones only do that