Fender Rumble 200 combo VS Ampeg Micro VR stack
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2018
- Yesterday my friend Giovanni came to my house with his Fender Rumble 200 bass combo, so I decided to record a quick comparison between our amps.
To switch from an amp to another I used a Lead Foot ABY switch pedal:
A channel (left button): Fender Rumble 200
B channel (right button): Ampeg Micro VR
Y channel (left button): both amps
Obviously both amps are flat and with no filters (bright, contous, vintage).
Sorry for sloppy playing and video, I did it quickly.
Amps:
- Fender Rumble 200 combo
- Ampeg Micro VR stack (head + cabinet)
Bass:
- Fender Precision Steve Harris signature (SD spb-1 custom shop pickups, Sansone strings)
Pedals
- Switch: Lead Foot ABY
- Overdrive: Behringer BDI21 V-Tone
Camera:
- Fujifilm X-T10 + Fujinon 16-50 mm
Riffs are Thomann.de bass samples
1) Jazz
2) Jazz
3) Slap
4) Rock
5) Metal - เพลง
The Rumble 200 sounds Warmer-Deeper
yes, it's true
They also gave different speakers
Ampeg articulates better
@@shanecabbage2187 I will always take articulation over warmness and deepness
don't trust this video too much. the audio is not the best and the room tends to "dry" the sound
Man, I dig that Ampeg tone.
Tarbashh 😊
Same
Rumble is deeper and darker. Great playing!
thank you!
Damn, they sound great together!!
ILLegal ELbow oh thank you!
Might be the move tbh
Rumbles are a good bedroom and low volume practice amp because of the way they are voiced. I have the 40 and it's a solid little performer for what it is, and is super lightweight. However, the bedroom or very low volume practice situations is where it stays. It's been said that the sealed Ampeg cabs aren't the best for bedroom purposes, but have that cut through tone when they are able to be opened up on the stage. I wholeheartedly agree, and I own an 810e and a 410HE. The 210AV is literally 1/4th of the 810 in size and power handling, and has the same frequency response specs. It's not going to be boomy, but where it lacks in the extended low end it will make up for in clean volume. The amp is obviously only 200 watts at 4 ohms, so you'll need a second 210AV to really get enough power and speaker surface area if you're going to put it up to gig duty.
I played the rumble 40 in a store and it has a very nice sound.
the 210AV has the goal of sounding like a big ampeg cabinet, so as you tell me it does its job well.
Nice comparison, thanks! Great playing!
Thanks!
Both sound great!
The Ampeg sounded higher and had the better tone....although the rumble was deeper....could have been the EQ....I liked them both together actually for a full range of sound thanks for the demo!
thanks to you for the opinion!
playing them together just messes with the ears when nobody is here for that tbh, thanks for the demo
Ik this video was uploaded a while ago, but do you know roughly what eq settings you were using for the fender rumble? I have a 100 but seem to struggle to get as much low end out of it without the tone getting too muddy and not being very articulate
I think the eq was flat
I have the same amp with the same problem. Three different bass's, same thing happens to all three.
I have my bass set at around 1 o’clock, both mids at 10 o’clock and treble at 1 o’clock, I run that with a squire paranormal 54 jazz and that gives a nice tone that I like, I’ll upload a video soon with the settings so you can have a better look matey
thank you all for your opinions!
I like the Ampeg, somewhat due to the highs in the tone, but also because its just so dadgum cute. There's a white one near me and I think I want it. Its so adorably lovely to look at. Like, this'll never leave my house; I just play for mine and my cats amusement.
It'll be something assholes can set their drinks on when they come over to my home!
Notice
This video was improvised when my friend brought his fender rumble 200 to my house.
it is not an accurate test.
Also my room tends to "dry" the sounds.
W is very Fender or AMPEG?
Hi, I really dig your amp and preamp demos as it often deals with the ones I am interested in. Surprisingly, I find the fender to be more warm-sounding. Would you recommend either the rumble (100 or 200 w) or the ampeg mini stack for home practice and small gigs (if it makes sense to you). Thank you for your advice.
Maybe... I recommend the fender rumble amps, because I think they have a better value for money
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All the rumbles amps are good, you just have to choose the one you like or you need more.
@@NtWarlock Thank you !! :))
Are these loud enough for playing with a drummer?
Ampeg sounds clean and punchy
Nice video, tbh i would be happy with either, probably go with the Ampeg purely for the stacked look 😁
nobbytart27
Me too, but already one would be enough
Together they sound absolutley massive.
Yes!
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I've played the 200 live and it just lacks brightness and high mids for my taste. Low thumping is great though
maybe it will be for the 15" speaker. however rumble amps sound good
Does one cabinet provide 200 watts of the head, or is it necessary to connect the two cabinets so that the 200 watts reappear?
I think you need 2 cabinets
Helpful Thanks .
you're welcome!
The Rumble nice low end weak on the top end. The Ampeg nice top end and weak on the bottom end.
yes
(the rubmle is more balanced, in my opinion)
Do you have the sheet or the tabs for the riffs?
No, I don't have them. I don't think they exist.
@@NtWarlock Ok thanks
I just bought AMpeg Micro VR but the fan is very noisy. Is this normal? Thanks!
Emmanuel Gracian I read about this in a lot of articles and heard it myself while i was trying it in a Music Store. I thougt this is pretty anoying so i bought another one. I can recommend a GallianKrueger MB115-II if you‘re into Combos or the Micro CL Stack, which I am using. 100 Watt less, but perfect for my needs at home practice and it has no fan.
Return that pile and get the rumble. I had an Ampeg micro and it sounded like junk. Got the rumble 500 and it sounds sooooo much better.
Yes, it's noisy!
Matt Musto
Rumble 500... what a great amp!
Stepp
Gk make nice amps too
Honestly I actually prefer the sound of the fender.
Ampeg rules!
Tamare cual es mejor entonces parece q él fander es mas Punche por sus 200 RMS a comparacion de los 100 RMS de ampeg
I prefer the Ampeg.
thomann hits...I heard that lines a thousand times haha
Me too!
maybe that's the reason I played them!
You still diggin' that Ampeg stack?
I have ampeg but fender in this video awesome
Fender all the way.
Yeah
Rumble wins hands down
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…and the Fender Rumble “Kicked Ass!” 💥🤛🏽,,IMO,..Lil’ Ampeg just too damn thin sounding but most likely convenient to lug around…but so is the Fender!! b(‘_
In Brazil we have the Berimbau. You have to try. Good to make slap
it must have a very bright sound!
You are comparing an amp that has a single 15" driver (Rumble) to an amp driving a 2x10" cab (Ampeg)
Of course, the Fender is going to sound deeper, warmer and less focussed compared to the Ampeg which will naturally sound much tighter with high end detail. That's the nature of 10" speakers vs 15" speakers.
I had the Rumble 200 for a while but decided to sell it for an all tube head. I use a Bassman 135 for big shows and I am going to try out the Ampeg Micro VR head into a single Fender 15" cab for small practises and gigs.
you're right, they are different amps, but I had these available at the time
for small gigs, maybe even just the micro vr stack or a rumble combo could be fine
I have a Fender rumble25. Im looking on getting the ampeg micro cl. I need me sum louder than the whimpy rumble25. Its a great amp, but I need sum new
I'd get a higher powered fender rumble
In your opinion do you think I should get the 200 or 500? I feel like getting the 500 after all the price difference is only like 100 $
Martin Rios
I tested the 500 in a music shop and it has a lot of volume! if for you its weight and its dimensions are not a problem, I think it's a good purchase
perhaps the 500 can be too loud for home practice
I got the 500 for home use. Usually it’s about a quarter of the way up or maybe 10/11 o’clock. Sure it gets loud enough to knock pictures off the wall, but at normal volumes there’s tonnnns of clean headroom which makes it sound amazing for home use.
Matt Musto
The rumble 500 is a great amp. I tried it in a shop. it made everything tremble!
good comparison there.... the Ampeg sounded a bit too 'trebly'? whereas the Fender had much deeper bass - I'm not sure what EQ settings you had on each amp, but I prefer the sound from the Fender..... I may be a little biased though as I have a Fender Rumble 500 and I love it, but I'm not solely loyal to the fender brand
What pedal are you using?
Lead Foot ABY, to switch between the amps
Behringer BDI21 V-Tone, as overdrive
I wrote them in the description
@@NtWarlock Excuse me, I don't speak English, to know what is written I use the google translator, I didn't realize that you had described the pedals you used
fender rumble win
What's the name of your pedal? I need one
Lead Foot ABY if I'm not wrong
Matteo Cristini
Exactly
I much prefer the sound of the Rumble, although they sound really good together at the same time
Low mids + high mids
Ampeg is WAY more focused!!!
sealed cab vs. ported fender cab + ampeg tone stack...win win
Yes, more aggressive
More open kids from the Ampeg Ampeg for me but I am biased svt for me
1 great demo
2 try and match the eqs better? Or did a all at noon and a match eq? Just to make the co.parison easier
3 the rumble amps have consistant issues with power section. Achelies heel.
Ampegs have the quality build
Thanks!
The eq was flat for both amps.
I have the ampeg and it is of good quality.
i’m looking to get a cheap bass amp for doom so ima need to put a fuzz pedal through it. do the amps take pedals half way decent? just asking cause i’ve seen a lot of combo amps take pedals like shit
I haven't tried pedals in it.
they told me it goes well with guitar + guitar pedals.
I think it's also good for bass
@@NtWarlock yeah all the pedals i run would be guitar lmao if you ever run pedals to it you should def post a video of it
@@ryanendreszl6976 I would love to do that, but I only had this amp on loan. now my friend has it again.
I am sorry!
Ill take the 15" over 2x
10s any day. 10s just cant get that super low "punch you in the gut" feeling. Ive tried the two tens before. They sound great no doubt, but that 15 just had the low balls.👍👍🤟🍻
Yes the 15" cone has deeper frequencies, but in some cases it can have a boomy sound. Anyway my room "dries" the sound, so a 15" cab here sounds good
@@NtWarlock that's true. But can adjust that out. I would love to have about 500 watts with two 12s. That would do it all for sure🤟👍🍻
@@rickfennell7849 that's a great amp. I tried it in a shop and it has a lot of volume
Tomorrow i go to get an Rumble 200!!
Great!
El tamaño e impedancia de las bocinas influye en la salida...
The rumble definitely has a more usable overdrive section. I liked both in their clean settings.
What pedal is that?
Lead foot aby switch and behringer bdi21 bass preamp with overdrive. I wrote it in the description
Fender wins so far
Actually, Ampeg wins!
Deep Grooves
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of course Ampeg will play tinier, why? Well smaller cab? At least it doesnt sound boomy like that Rumble
Richard K
I think it's also the influence of my room
I’ve got a couple of those rumbles, and when you push them, they do sound boomy even on stage good workhorse, though
thomann riffs jejej
YES
In this situation fender sound better, but try different place, play outdoors, bar, pub or studio, using headphones,
you are completely right. this should be done.
unfortunately I can never do them.
Sorry but having played bass in cover bands, these size amps are worthless to play live. The Ampeg win in my book for having a better footprint, which makes it better to fit in someone's room, for rehearsing. I also like how it is a little higher up and the headphone socket it right on the faceplate. If you want to be a professional then pick a pro like rig. Great sound at this price range is moot, learning how to play is more important. Great video, thanks.
I agree but my friend and I (the owner of the fender) are not professionals.
A good choice can be the fender bassman head + cabinet
@@NtWarlock I love Fenders. They are heard on more recordings than Ampegs hands down, particularly in the 70s. Twenty years ago almost now I owned a 1200 watt head hybrid. Played in a classic rock band. It was great. They are all good, Ashdown, Fender, Ampeg, Warwick, Aguilar, Harke,etc, just pick the amp that you like, but go for the pro rig. You will need 3-6 times the wattage that a guitar amp is driving be successful to be heard. Make sure that it has a 15" in the rig for the low, bi amp is best.
Now i'm not in a band, so i don't know if my amp is it's pretty powerful.
I played the rumble 100 in a rehearsal room with my ex band and it was sufficiently powerful
@@NtWarlock Yes, that is all you need to rehearse. A big rig is tough to move for just rehearsal. I won't do it. If the guitar player brings in half stacks then I will tell him to turn it down or I leave.
I understand you, I know this problem. Guitar players play too loud (and often bad)
poor giovanni
I agree
Fender wins on bass tone, ampeg Wins on middle tone
Yes
Anzi direi magari medio basse e medio alte, per i due ampli rispettivamente
ported cab vs infinite baffle cab
The Rumble wins!
Yeah 🏆
ampeg is too sharp it irritates. that's why I'm going for fender rumble
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Les musiques de Thomman pour les démos de basses/amplis/effets !!! 🤣🤣🤣
Fender sound better.
more balanced
This Ampeg sounds terrible. I also played on Ampeg BA210 and i sounded terrible as well. Only big fridge sounds good from ampeg.
Fender rumble mejor
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Too much twang. Bass players need to get back to providing a deep low punch for the band, instead of wussy spanky tone.
de gustibus non est disputandum
Kiiiiiinda worthless with just camera audio...
Zachary Scruggs
You right
Both are set to flat EQ???? flatter than my ex-girlfriend?
Yes, absolutely flat, don’t worry :)
I don't like either, sorry
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then why tf you watching? dumb
Tu bajo y ecualizacion son malas todo suena HORRIBLE EN LOS 2
EQ is flat in both amps
@@NtWarlock El eq debe Tener los grabes al maximo si estamos hablando den un bajo
@@pablobenitez2490 high, mid, bass at max level?
Dude's saying that it IS a bass therefore you must max Bass on the Eq always. Just ignore him
@@pablobenitez2490 Aquí lo único malo es tu ortografía
Awful playing skills.....
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bro you probably can’t play any better lmao just stop
Fender Rumble sucks