I hate everything about that story. I used to work at a vet clinic and the number of people who didn't get regular vet care for their pets then blamed the vets for their critically ill animal after bringing them in last minute was literally a daily thing. So sad. Pooch didn't deserve that. 😭🐶
That's the crazy thing... I think our vets are very well priced!!! If my dogs need anything,broken dew claw... upset tummy... no issue to spend $70-100 to get my buddys checked out.. its fk all in my opinion for the level of skill..
Completely agree! My sister is a veterinarian and she tells me about how people don't bring their pets in when problems first arise, when it's cheaper, and instead bring them in when it's almost to the point of being too late and it's more expensive to handle the problem, and they complain about the cost!
Exactly this! And giving a pet any kind of supplements is incredibly dangerous. We have four dogs and we are very careful with everything they eat (including their joint supplements). Let alone the vet care they receive including their much needed vaccinations! It's my job to care for them! I'll never understand how someone can watch their pet suffer without doing everything you can!
Also the ex boyfriend's sisters in that same story. As much as it's ethical to vaccinate your pets it's also ethical to vax your kids too. I wonder if anyone else (the sisters and the ex [older brother]) in that house got their vaccinations when they were born and as they were going to school. Pre-emptively: Okay, okay I realize the family probably religion exempted the kids from their shots. Though that makes me question the validity of the exemption, as I feel with families like this they just abuse it to get their kids out of getting protected from all kinds of nasties (the ones that have the shots made for them).
@@PinkAgaricus that's my exact thought process. I'm studying for my Master's Degree in Public Health and honestly, I personally think there shouldn't be an allowance for religious reasons for vaccines. You want to use and benefit from a public system (safe roads, clean drinking water, safe food products, decreased risk of disease, etc) you have to play by some rules and like it or not, unless you are 100% self-sufficient (as in you grow/kill all of your own food, make your own clothes, built your own house with supplies you also found/built), you benefit from that system. I'm completely for religious freedom, but I also don't really care what your religion says about vaccines (show me exactly where in the Bible where Jesus was anti-vax, Susan). Not when the alternative is scores of people dying or being disabled to a completely preventable disease.
i woukdve called animal control the first day just to see if there was anything they could possibly do on their end and im pretty sure in any state they would intervene but say they didnt i wouldve kidnapped that puppy right away and took her the the vet that instant to see jf any damage is reversible no way in hell could i ever watch a dog die in a preventable way and not intervene 😢
As a devoted Christian I can honestly say that what those people did was reprehensible. It breaks my heart when people like that use the name of Christ to justify their awful “theology”. That story really hurt my heart. Poor puppy…and that young woman now has a really bad taste in her mouth for christians. 💔💔
I’m also Christian and this story made me sick to my stomach! 😭 Those kind of people give Christianity a bad reputation and it is DISGUSTING to let that poor puppy die because of their willful ignorance. I just can’t even. Thank you, Hannah for sharing and to those who keep sharing their horror stories! 💕
I was a massage therapist for 15 years before moving out of state (where I was licensed). I always find it so interesting/horrifying that essential oils MLM reps are so carefree with their uses of oils and in their advice to people about them. I was taught about essential oils in massage school, and there were so many contraindications they taught us about, as well as things like never ingesting them, never putting them directly onto skin without mixing a certain amount with a certain amount of a carrier oil, never using on certain areas, washing our hands after using them to avoid transferring to eyes, etc, etc, etc. And when I started working all of the spas I worked in had strict rules about all of those same things with essential oils, for liability. So it just always seems so crazy to me when I see or hear about people drinking oils or mixing them with food, or recommending them like medicine.
I first started using oils from one of the bigger oil companies and I cringe because I used to add lemon oil to my water and some to my food. Thankfully I learned fairly quickly that that was not a safe practice at all. I hate when I see people suggest using oils to flavor water because I have read so many stories of people having issues with their liver or esophagus.
@@melissafernandez9535 Absolutely... I knew the benefits of drinking lemon juice in your water, but would usually let lemons go bad before using them, so I was told to drop a couple of drops of the oil in my water and it was the same thing! I only did it once or twice and found out it wasn't how they were supposed to be used. Honestly, many reps are misled and my friend using and selling them was misinformed and passing along the information, thinking she was helping. I think there should be stricter rules for these health related MLM companies. I'm sure somewhere it states that you can't diagnose, etc. etc. but so many don't dig in and learn the information and just believe in a product. Not everything works for everyone the same.
Story 1 reminds of why I started listening to my pastor. The second sermon I heard from him was about prosperity preaching and how God made the bible to easy to access and anyone who claims they can give you extra special info for a dollar amount was scamming you. I felt safe in that church and no hun bots last long there.
I love that your pastor was speaking out against prosperity preaching. My pastor got everyone involved in an MLM :( I am thankful my own faith wasn’t damaged, but I haven’t been a church member since and it’s been 10 years.
I live in a town that holds a... shall we say, extremely popular prosperity gospel cult (*cough*bethel*cough*) and it depresses me that I have never once heard any church in my city openly denounce the practices that go on there. Some churches in my area even openly collaborate with them and support them. That was one of the reasons my husband and I stopped going to our last church. My husband had written a long email to the pastors and elders about all of the horrifying and unbiblical practices that are going on at Bethel, urging them to warn the congregation about being led astray by that garbage prosperity theology. And our pastors basically said they weren't going to do that and that while they disagree with that church on some things, they're still our "brothers and sisters." It was very disappointing. No church that is teaching blatantly false theology, including literal sorcery and divination, should be considered our "brothers and sisters." The Bible tells us to mark and avoid such people.
@@CassTeaElle that's awful! Especially when the Bible tells us that we're supposed to hold each other accountable. I hope you find a good church that teaches the Bible and not just the easy fun things.
@@nat6098 yeah, it was really disappointing. We have a church we are happy with now, and while they have never openly denounced Bethel church, our pastor did recently mention something in a sermon that I think pretty much anyone in our area would interpret pretty easily as a slight to Bethel. I wish pastors would be willing to be more open about it, though, for the sake of clearly telling their congregation to be careful not to go to that church. Especially when it's in our own town and is very popular.
I think little goody bags are fine but as soon as that business card goes in it, that instantly ruins their genuineness. Also, Juice Plus saved grandma from Dementia? I’m not a medical professional, but I don’t think that’s how that works…
the dog story made me want to hug my dog a little tighter today. when he was a puppy (he was in the process of getting his vaccinations, you have to spread them out) he got very sick and I took him to the emergency vet(his normal vet had already closed for the day). the vet wanted to run a bunch of tests on him and treatment and tests were going to cost thousands of dollars and I was willing to do whatever I needed to do for my puppy. and when you've done all you can do, then you pray for the best. fortunately the vet only had to run 1 test that ruled out parvo, gave him medicine, and I didnt have to pay what I originally thought I was going to pay. he ended up fine, was able to get the rest of his vaccinations, and he is now a healthy 2 year old. I can't believe that there are people out there that would abuse and neglect their pets thinking they know best and then blaming someone else for their neglect. people like that need prison time and should never be allowed to own pets.
Where I live in South Africa nobody can knock on your actual front door; they have to ring the bell at the gate in the 6ft wall around the house (often the walls have elctric fences). If I saw somone on my actual properly that would be an instant panic button to call armed response.
We have family friend a from South Africa who work as farmers in the US and send their paychecks home to the family. It’s insane how necessary those fences are, as well as firearms and guard dogs. I pray you and your family are kept safe ♥️
When Hannah was saying to please take your pets to the vet, I wanted to add; and have them spayed or neutered. I always hear that line in Bob Barker's voice. 🐕 🐈
hey hannah fun fact, last week i caught up on your horror stories during my first ever big tattoo session, thank you for being in my ear while i was in pain🙏😩
The one about the puppy really broke my heart because I just got a kitten and I would lose my mind if anyone tried to make me give her MLM crap if she was sick. Like, no thank you. She had an upper respiratory infection when we got her and we took her to the vet like good pet parents.
That first story sickened me. I imagine any vet would have been horrified at what they were having the dog consume. There are tons of illnesses dogs can be vulnerable to when they’re not getting their shots, particularly when they’re puppies. I feel so sorry to the sender that they had to witness that! 💛
I'd like to not consider myself an abusive person, but if I were dating someone and they tried to blame me for the death of their family pup due to my religion(or lack thereof) instead of the fact the family was poisoning/starving the poor thing to death, I'm pretty sure I'd slap them across the face. It wouldn't even be a conscious thought.
Stealing the dog would have been my first thought if I knew what was going on beforehand...I'm 33 and the last time I actually stole something from a store was when I was like 12 or 13(not saying it's ok but I was incredibly dumb and trying not to be a goody-goody in front of friends) so it's not something I would normally do...but at that point, I mean, they killed the dog!!! I can't with these people...
Omg. Not getting the puppy her shots? I lost a sweet baby puppy to parvo. It was brutal. Rabies is also a real thing. That also means that puppy isn't getting flea treatment and heartworm prevention. 😭
Avon ladies driving around in cars looking for their next victim sounds like the start of a really cool horror movie. Or parody horror by Edgar Wright.
That puppy story is one of the most upsetting things I've heard on this channel. They literally did everything incorrectly that they possibly could have. Like.. a creature DIED because of an mlm.
I’m surprised the guy lurking in everyone’s backyard didn’t get shot. I would be terrified. In between house moves, my husband, I and our triplets moved into an apartment/townhouse complex in Irvine, CA back in 2004. My kids were around 1 at the time and there was a small patio that lead to a green space where there was a jungle gym. I found myself terrified when I noticed people peering into our living room from the sliding glass doors. They literally had to open a gate, walk through the patio to get to the slider. They were watching my kids. It was like we were on display and I was forced to keep the blinds closed to keep people away. Totally bizarre. 💜
The hospital story reminded me of some minor MLM nonsense I experienced. I used to work the front desk in an emergency room and would clean the waiting area when I had time. I’d constantly find younique brochures sitting on the tables by our magazines like they were supposed to be there. I didn’t know what younique was at the time, but my scam senses are strong so I related it to Avon and would throw them away.
What I love about scent bird is that I have really sensitive senses. So sometimes I can't tell if a scent is going to be bad and give me headaches unless I can try it for a while. So that usually means spending on buying the whole thing and it makes me not very experimental because it is pricey and I can just end up with a migraine.
Speaking as one who was in IBLP as a teenager, it's a cult and definitely a haven for people with overblown religious ideas and abusive tendencies. In fact, it sort of functions as a spiritual pyramid scheme, where the higher up and closer you are to the top, the more "successful" and "spiritual" you are seen to be. My interest in anti-MLM content is directly linked to my experience and recovery from IBLP. So many parallels.
That first story is horrifying. As a devout Christian I am embarrassed that these people are using the name of Christ in this horrible way. Jesus doesn’t shill supplements or blame atheists for the bad things that happen.
Thank you for putting the puppy one in the title of the video. I just absolutely can't handle people being awful to animals, so I was glad to know in advance there was a story I was gonna need to skip. And now back to watching the rest of the video!
I work at an emergency vet. Nothing surprises me anymore about what people do to/with their pets. I’ve seen so many cases with essential oils, supplements and people choosing to pray and wait for guidance before seeking care
🥺my partner’s friend called last night to play video games, my partner asked about their cats, they have 2 and we have 4. His friend SO NONCHALANTLY said “yeah they’re fine, Aang threw up today and yesterday and there was blood in it.” I jumped in (partner always talks on speaker) and asked if he had eaten anything he wasn’t supposed to, and said they needed to take him to the emergency vet RIGHT NOW. Turns out, poor buddy got ahold of two nerf darts and fully ate them. Days prior. they were waiting for God to give them an answer about what to do bc they didn’t want to spend the money on an emergency vet. Neither cats have been vaccinated since adoption & when we go over there, they have ONE toy. A feather on a stick. They gave us their beds, too. Those cats literally have nothing & they never get paid any attention to bc of all the other issues that couple has (like his wife not taking birth control behind her husbands back and when she got pregnant he said it was “from god” good lord). They were denied for CareCredit so I put it in my name and he’s having surgery. Sorry for the rant but I just had to complain. My partner is always trying to be devil’s advocate but there’s nothing to say!! They aren’t responsible owners!! I understand accidents happen, but CMON!! My cats would never be left unattended with loose nerf darts for long enough for two of them to be fully ingested. And I would never let my cat basically sit there to die of internal bleeding. Maybe I’m being judgey- idc. I treat my cats like they’re little humans in the family, as I feel everyone should treat their pets.
Hi Hannah, I've been subscribed for awhile, but never commented before. I've sent a couple of Horror stories to Deanna Mimms in the past. Anyway, I was absolutely horrified by the puppy story & the panic attack one. I was in several MLMs over 40 years, & every time I signed up, it was to get the discount. Back in the olden days, girlfriends would go to parties with physical demonstrations, and we'd be happy to help our friends get their free or exclusive stuff. I loved Tupperware and so it went loving the product and wanting the discount. I wish they'd had an anti MLM movement back then, as I thought it was harmless.
When my mother was in Mary Kay, her team would make wellness bags for cancer patients and would pass them out. They did this because her upline used to be a patient at this hospital and did this with her own money. They did include their business cards in case they decided to order more products, but they would pass these out every month. They would make a sale every once in a while, but never enough to replace the product used. But her upline used this as part of her fun money each month, so she was okay with this since this product helped her out when she was going through radiation. Not to defend them, but it's not the first time I have heard of a hun doing that.
That’s really sweet the way she went about it 🤍 I’m sure it was a ray of light during a time like chemo, MLM or not. Very sweet thing to do with her own money
If only I had waited until now to go to the gym! My workout would’ve flown by watching your vid, Hannah! But now it’s like I get to treat myself after some hard work 😁
This makes me so sad, I just took our foster puppy to the vet with kennel cough and I can’t imagine the evil you must have in you to watch a dog be sick enough to die and not take it to the doctor. It’s disgusting
Dang, I'm in quick. And I was just mocking my dog that she needs to go to the vet to get her injection, guess I'll give give her nonsense juice instead.
We got our dog from my husband's sister. He nearly died 3 times under her care, twice from parvo. She fed him purity as a puppy and as a result he has lost about 80% of his teeth.
That vet story made so extremely sad. I work at an animal emergency clinic and the amount of people who wait on things, or don’t get regular vet care (like when people DONT VACCINATE THEIR PUPPIES), or try to just google things (like giving their dogs or cats ibuprofen or toxic oils -especially eucalyptus-), which then become emergencies is insane. It’s also so frustrating when we get blamed for it. Then, we get accused of just wanting peoples money. Which is not the case at all, unfortunately emergency care is just expensive (no different than a human hospital). And even though these people gave their dog (from what it sounds like) toxic supplements, or it had a virus that could have been treated with vaccines/ vet care (I suspect parvo or lepto because it’s usually one of those), science and vet med are somehow the evil…. That poor puppy did not deserve that.
Thanks Hannah for bringing this to international attention. Essential oils & cannabis oils are not regulated by the FDA meaning very little or to much could be in each product. Who knows? As a massage therapist I avoid them simply bc I don't know anything about the patient's health prescription drug history or allergies. I'm not a pharmacist or a Dr or a DVM but Do No Harm Is the oath I sign when I renew my license. And to think most MLM Huns have no knowledge of the product they're selling except what the company says make my stomach churn
I put partial blame on Shaklee reps for contributing to my mom's death. They were pushing oils and supplements to treat her illness vs the actual medications from a doctor. Mom should have listened to her doc but since her church as a child was very anti-mental health awareness or treatment she was already adverse to taking meds. Even after three life ending attempts and being put into a facility she went right back to magic oils to cure herself. It ended horribly and detailed the lives of everyone impacted by her final successful attempt.
As a veterinarian - you are legally required to have your dogs rabies vaccinated in the US. I’m also an evangelical Christian…and am horrified by their behavior.
Watching your videos while I’m home sick with covid 😫 thank you for your videos 💕 Edited to say i can totally relate to the smell memory thing! I bought a specific perfume for my wedding day and now every time i smell it it’s like I’m back in my wedding dress marrying the love of my life ❤️
The Young Living cult is huge in my area. One woman I know actually alienated her husband’s whole family because she was upset her mother in law got chemo for cancer instead of healing with oils and her company’s Ningxa juice. Her husband doesn’t talk to his family and his mother passed away during his absence. She stopped talking to friends who stopped selling EO’s as her down line and had a feud with her highschool best friend because her friend was more successful in the company. She was also sucked into the antivax movement and faith manipulation. So sad.
I love how you're always so concise with your words. I know that's your editing skill as well, but I can really tell that your background as an educator strengthens your content.
I remember when my mom and ex were big into MLM oils. My mom thought one of those inhalers you snort was the answer to my asthma troubles. My ex thought I didn't need to take synthroid, just put some oils on my feet and my thyroid would magically come back to life after being killed off and work again. I was so over their shit so quickly.
I’m so sick about the puppy. A literally deadly combo of religious zeal and MLM brainwashing. The more anti-MLM stories I listen to, the sadder I feel. It’s tragic what damage, danger and misery they bring.
@@melissamoonchild9216 Yes! I’ve feared zealots and fanatics all my life. They and I live in different realities which rarely overlap.However, since so many are willing to employ bullying, violence, deceit and cruelty to obtain their goals, I can’t just just ignore them.
I love scentbird too, I've been using it for a year now ,if you have the monthly sub you also get to pick from deodorants as well as the perfumes. I've been exploring what I can get and even found my moms fav bottle cheaper than in retail stores. Also Hannah since i last commented on one of your lives about my animals I thought I'd tell you about my new foster kittens that look like your cats and i am in need of 2 girl names!!
27:14 I got these attacks after my son was born. It was one of the worst pains I’ve ever felt. Only active labor was worse. It’s not only chest pain, it’s stabbing pain in the back as well. I was diagnosed with GERD after going to the hospital because we thought it was a heart attack. Diet definitely can help this.
I am irate at the first story. That sweet pup deserved so, so much better than the humans that failed her 😞 I have four rescue babies, so it hits close to home. My heart breaks for any animals they have in the future Edit to add that I’m also an atheist, and weirdly that hasn’t caused the devil to possess any of my animals 🤷♀️ crazy
I had a rescue dog (he just recently passed away) who had something going on like every two weeks and I always took him to the vet. I cannot imagine never taking my dogs to the vet or getting them vaccinated. Like... what???
Leering at me through my window will not get ME to answer the door, that much I know. I remember years ago my doorbell rang at my apartment. I opened my door and peered out to where I can see the building entrance, and saw men I didn't know telling me to let them in the building. I just blankly stared back, then closed me door. The men went to the back of the building to everyone's back doors and they had one man dressed as a fireman. They knocked on my back window, looking at me and telling me they're with fire inspection and I need to let them in. I turned around and left the room with a phone ready to call 9-11 if they tried to break in. The landlord didn't have any inspections scheduled and the men didn't come back ever, so who knows what would have happened had I let them in.
I am a Christian and quite conservative and the people you find in that first story are _infuriating._ God created us with the intelligence and ability to create medicine. If you're sick, you go to the doctor. You can pray, absolutely, but why wouldn't you take advantage of a proper physician or veternarian? For the love of all that is holy, _take your dog to the frigging vet_ and _DON'T TRY TO FORCE YOUR PETS TO BE VEGAN._
Yes and good christians should stop saying that awful crap about atheists, too. I am an atheist and cannot tell you how many times christians have said horrific things to me. It is abusive and crazy.
Absolutely. I don’t care what a person’s religion, politics, or beliefs are; the moment they give their pets a vegan diet, they have earned nothing but disgust from me. Cats, for example, are obligate carnivores. They cannot live on a diet without meat. If you’re a vegan and want non-meat-eating pets, get a rabbit or some other vegetarian animal.
Funny enough the farm animals that some of these crazy vegans love so much actually arent vegan themselves, out of choice, chickens, cows and pigs will all eat bugs and things thin their diet while grazing and its actually very healthy
Last story, if a car is slowly following you NEVER under ANY circumstances WALK UP TO THE CAR!!!!! 😱 Two women can over power one. A man could be laying down in the back. You have no idea if they have guns on them. It’s just a horrible absolutely horrible idea.
@@ivanac0002 very true. But you should seriously never approach a car that is stalking you regardless if guns are in your country or not. The vehicle itself is a deadly weapon. 😳
How do MLM reps not realize how dangerous some of these tactics are? This video alone mentions trespassing then looking in through people's windows, and following someone in a car. They are so lucky no one has pulled a gun on them!
Ok so I'm absolutely triggered by the story of the dog. I work for an animal control agency and this is absolute cruelty. At the very least not having a rabies vaccination violates local statutes. If anyone ever encounters a situation like this they need to call their animal control and insist on a well being check immediately. That is absolute BS what they did and those people are negligent.
If someone came to the back of my house they would get a glizzy to welcome them. Coming into someone’s back yard- unless it was a wellness check or something happened- is NOT fkn ok. Someone shilling water treatment? stuff knocked on my door the other day. It was two guys. I told them if I saw them knock on any neighbors doors I’d call police and that anyone selling door to door in 2022 is shady af. They left and I went for a walk and they had left the neighborhood. Any door to door sales are creepy now
Ahh I worked in the vet industry for 6 years. Never give random supplements, oils or herbal remedies without consulting a vet! Not only can pets be allergic to certain botanicals, but they can also have severe reactions to thinks like Xylitol (what makes many “sugar free” items sweet. Also known as birch sugar in some products.)
The pet story…if the juice plus works so well, why did she have to believe in god for the puppy to be saved? Pretty sure antibiotics work whether you think they will or not.
I was tempted to join an MLM that advertised its products on facebook back in 2008. I was poor, couldn’t work, so being able to earn money from home would have helped. Fortunately I can do maths and realised that if you had to recrute people to make money, you would run short of people at some point, and that this kind of business couldn’t sustain itself. That’s how I didn’t join an MLM.
That last Avon one is how you get at best pepper sprayed, and at worst shot. You can’t just follow people in your car!! That’s how people get kidnapped so frequently and I’d lose my mind if someone did that to me.
39:58 about this story I think she remember because then she wouldnt need to block her ,as predatory as these people are she was probably hoping the friend doesnt remember or to gaslight her something like "omg it was a joke,you take everything so personal" or something but also she could actually forgotten 😅
Thank you for the time stamps- I could not handle the pet death one, because that fills me with such sadness and rage it's just too damn much. As ever, well done, and I love that you are able to tell peoples' stories and that CC sends those people to you. :)
Doterra oils were used on me here in London 🇬🇧 during a reflexology session, I was ill for 24 hours and was told by others they had the same symptoms after these oils too. Scary!
That story with the puppy broke my heart. That’s abuse! No doubt about it. I’m also a devoted Christian and I can say for certain that those people are looking down the barrel of hell if this is what they do and how they treat people, and helpless animals.
I recently started a scentbird subscription because of one of your videos and just got my first scent. I love it and I'm so glad you recommended it. It feels good to spoil myself with a good scent.
When I first opened my legitimate small business I was able to spot being scammed by ppl who target new businesses by the hostility they have when you question them about things
Ok. I use Do Terra all the time. Actually there are tests proving that essential oil boosts immunity. I have also witnessed it heal small infections. Lavender oil helps with burns. My family and I use it for that reason every time. The problem is that you can’t use just one thing to treat a chronic condition. If some oils give you heart burn, don’t use them. They’ve helped me with stomach problems, especially peppermint. Also they’re not meant to be applied directly to the skin (except Lavender ). You use a carrier oil. As with anything, use caution! Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. What I hate is how MLMs take awesome, natural products and turn them into a scam.
My general rule is that anyone trying to call you over while in a car or on the street most likely never has good intentions. This goes for anything. My immediate reaction is to walk away or go into the nearest public area or store.
Good timing! I've just had a friend invite me to their business opportunity. She's been doing the 30 days from Arbonne!! I msg her your Arbonne deep dive - she gave me a whole spiel back including a TH-cam of Richard Branson supporting MLMs 🤣🤣 I sent her back saying I think she should research more as I'm concerned for her and sent the income disclosure (UK here and its bad). She then said how she researched all the "clean and toxic" free etc. I've just given up - the Pharmacist in me realises this is a lost cause 😞
The best advice I've heard to give in that situation is to keep a really detailed record of all the costs and income - sometimes people need to see their own mistake
One thing that is rarely if ever mentioned is the “car allowance” will put a hit on your credit. If you want to keep your borrowing limit low for future purchases or If one’s credit is in recovery mode, it’s another reason not to fall for it.
@@hopefulhuman If you finance or lease a car, your credit will be checked, and your score and credit history will determine your interest rate or even if you are eligible to drive the car off the lot.
I went to an essential oil party and the rep put a few drops of peppermint oil in each of our hands. The smell was so strong that even after washing my hands several times, I couldn't get the smell off of me. I drove home in the freezing cold with all of the windows down bc it was making me gag. Once home I scrubbed my hands with coffee grounds and finally got some relief. I still can't tolerate peppermint to this day bc of that incident. 😫
Do the Avon ladies in the car not realize that they're being super sus?😂 Like, were specifically told not to approach people trying to talk to us in cars because it could be a ploy.
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I hate everything about that story. I used to work at a vet clinic and the number of people who didn't get regular vet care for their pets then blamed the vets for their critically ill animal after bringing them in last minute was literally a daily thing. So sad. Pooch didn't deserve that. 😭🐶
the willfull ignorance and pride of humans are some of the most grating traits we have.
That's the crazy thing... I think our vets are very well priced!!! If my dogs need anything,broken dew claw... upset tummy... no issue to spend $70-100 to get my buddys checked out.. its fk all in my opinion for the level of skill..
That’s so crazy! I literally call my vet as soon as one of my dogs starts acting off or has something going on. I can’t imagine going without
Completely agree! My sister is a veterinarian and she tells me about how people don't bring their pets in when problems first arise, when it's cheaper, and instead bring them in when it's almost to the point of being too late and it's more expensive to handle the problem, and they complain about the cost!
Exactly this! And giving a pet any kind of supplements is incredibly dangerous. We have four dogs and we are very careful with everything they eat (including their joint supplements). Let alone the vet care they receive including their much needed vaccinations! It's my job to care for them! I'll never understand how someone can watch their pet suffer without doing everything you can!
Not only is it ethical to vaccinate your pets, but it's required in some states. Most states legally require a rabies vaccine for pet dogs and cats.
Yup!! Like how Hawaii is a rabies free state and they’re very strict with animals, not native to the island, getting their necessary vaccinations.
Also the ex boyfriend's sisters in that same story. As much as it's ethical to vaccinate your pets it's also ethical to vax your kids too. I wonder if anyone else (the sisters and the ex [older brother]) in that house got their vaccinations when they were born and as they were going to school.
Pre-emptively: Okay, okay I realize the family probably religion exempted the kids from their shots. Though that makes me question the validity of the exemption, as I feel with families like this they just abuse it to get their kids out of getting protected from all kinds of nasties (the ones that have the shots made for them).
@@PinkAgaricus that's my exact thought process. I'm studying for my Master's Degree in Public Health and honestly, I personally think there shouldn't be an allowance for religious reasons for vaccines. You want to use and benefit from a public system (safe roads, clean drinking water, safe food products, decreased risk of disease, etc) you have to play by some rules and like it or not, unless you are 100% self-sufficient (as in you grow/kill all of your own food, make your own clothes, built your own house with supplies you also found/built), you benefit from that system. I'm completely for religious freedom, but I also don't really care what your religion says about vaccines (show me exactly where in the Bible where Jesus was anti-vax, Susan). Not when the alternative is scores of people dying or being disabled to a completely preventable disease.
i woukdve called animal control the first day just to see if there was anything they could possibly do on their end and im pretty sure in any state they would intervene but say they didnt i wouldve kidnapped that puppy right away and took her the the vet that instant to see jf any damage is reversible no way in hell could i ever watch a dog die in a preventable way and not intervene 😢
It’s the law in most states. Juice plus is not going to cure rabies or distemper. More importantly those diseases are a public health hazard.
As a devoted Christian I can honestly say that what those people did was reprehensible. It breaks my heart when people like that use the name of Christ to justify their awful “theology”. That story really hurt my heart. Poor puppy…and that young woman now has a really bad taste in her mouth for christians. 💔💔
agreed. just awful.
Right?? Like because of these people ALOT of those who were in mlms when they get out leave the church and some become atheist
@@peachxtaehyung there's nothing wrong with becoming an atheist; we don't eat babies :)
I’m also Christian and this story made me sick to my stomach! 😭 Those kind of people give Christianity a bad reputation and it is DISGUSTING to let that poor puppy die because of their willful ignorance. I just can’t even.
Thank you, Hannah for sharing and to those who keep sharing their horror stories! 💕
It is sad but at the end of the day you're unfortunately all part of the same organization 🙁
I was a massage therapist for 15 years before moving out of state (where I was licensed). I always find it so interesting/horrifying that essential oils MLM reps are so carefree with their uses of oils and in their advice to people about them. I was taught about essential oils in massage school, and there were so many contraindications they taught us about, as well as things like never ingesting them, never putting them directly onto skin without mixing a certain amount with a certain amount of a carrier oil, never using on certain areas, washing our hands after using them to avoid transferring to eyes, etc, etc, etc. And when I started working all of the spas I worked in had strict rules about all of those same things with essential oils, for liability. So it just always seems so crazy to me when I see or hear about people drinking oils or mixing them with food, or recommending them like medicine.
I first started using oils from one of the bigger oil companies and I cringe because I used to add lemon oil to my water and some to my food. Thankfully I learned fairly quickly that that was not a safe practice at all. I hate when I see people suggest using oils to flavor water because I have read so many stories of people having issues with their liver or esophagus.
@@melissafernandez9535 How does that even work? Water and oil don't mix, the oil just sits on top!
@@melissafernandez9535 Absolutely... I knew the benefits of drinking lemon juice in your water, but would usually let lemons go bad before using them, so I was told to drop a couple of drops of the oil in my water and it was the same thing! I only did it once or twice and found out it wasn't how they were supposed to be used. Honestly, many reps are misled and my friend using and selling them was misinformed and passing along the information, thinking she was helping. I think there should be stricter rules for these health related MLM companies. I'm sure somewhere it states that you can't diagnose, etc. etc. but so many don't dig in and learn the information and just believe in a product. Not everything works for everyone the same.
I had the same training and yes it is horrifying.
I feel like ABSOLUTELY NOT is quickly becoming a new catchphrase for you. I would buy that merch!
Would definitely buy that merch. I feel that way about many things. 😅
Cosigned, that sounds Amazing
Same!
Agreed!
Yess!!
Story 1 reminds of why I started listening to my pastor. The second sermon I heard from him was about prosperity preaching and how God made the bible to easy to access and anyone who claims they can give you extra special info for a dollar amount was scamming you. I felt safe in that church and no hun bots last long there.
I love that your pastor was speaking out against prosperity preaching. My pastor got everyone involved in an MLM :( I am thankful my own faith wasn’t damaged, but I haven’t been a church member since and it’s been 10 years.
I live in a town that holds a... shall we say, extremely popular prosperity gospel cult (*cough*bethel*cough*) and it depresses me that I have never once heard any church in my city openly denounce the practices that go on there. Some churches in my area even openly collaborate with them and support them.
That was one of the reasons my husband and I stopped going to our last church. My husband had written a long email to the pastors and elders about all of the horrifying and unbiblical practices that are going on at Bethel, urging them to warn the congregation about being led astray by that garbage prosperity theology. And our pastors basically said they weren't going to do that and that while they disagree with that church on some things, they're still our "brothers and sisters." It was very disappointing. No church that is teaching blatantly false theology, including literal sorcery and divination, should be considered our "brothers and sisters." The Bible tells us to mark and avoid such people.
@@CassTeaElle that's awful! Especially when the Bible tells us that we're supposed to hold each other accountable. I hope you find a good church that teaches the Bible and not just the easy fun things.
@@nat6098 yeah, it was really disappointing. We have a church we are happy with now, and while they have never openly denounced Bethel church, our pastor did recently mention something in a sermon that I think pretty much anyone in our area would interpret pretty easily as a slight to Bethel. I wish pastors would be willing to be more open about it, though, for the sake of clearly telling their congregation to be careful not to go to that church. Especially when it's in our own town and is very popular.
Waltzing into someone's backyard and staring into their windows in an excellent way to get shot, what are they thinking???
I think little goody bags are fine but as soon as that business card goes in it, that instantly ruins their genuineness.
Also, Juice Plus saved grandma from Dementia? I’m not a medical professional, but I don’t think that’s how that works…
the dog story made me want to hug my dog a little tighter today. when he was a puppy (he was in the process of getting his vaccinations, you have to spread them out) he got very sick and I took him to the emergency vet(his normal vet had already closed for the day). the vet wanted to run a bunch of tests on him and treatment and tests were going to cost thousands of dollars and I was willing to do whatever I needed to do for my puppy. and when you've done all you can do, then you pray for the best. fortunately the vet only had to run 1 test that ruled out parvo, gave him medicine, and I didnt have to pay what I originally thought I was going to pay. he ended up fine, was able to get the rest of his vaccinations, and he is now a healthy 2 year old.
I can't believe that there are people out there that would abuse and neglect their pets thinking they know best and then blaming someone else for their neglect. people like that need prison time and should never be allowed to own pets.
That’s always such a stressful situation. Glad your pup is ok. 😊
Where I live in South Africa nobody can knock on your actual front door; they have to ring the bell at the gate in the 6ft wall around the house (often the walls have elctric fences). If I saw somone on my actual properly that would be an instant panic button to call armed response.
Sounds like my dream home. 6ft tall electric fences around my house so no one can come close!
@@imaspecialgirllalala right?!! Make this the norm everywhere pls! 😂
We have family friend a from South Africa who work as farmers in the US and send their paychecks home to the family. It’s insane how necessary those fences are, as well as firearms and guard dogs. I pray you and your family are kept safe ♥️
When Hannah was saying to please take your pets to the vet, I wanted to add; and have them spayed or neutered. I always hear that line in Bob Barker's voice. 🐕 🐈
If a hun approaches me at the grocery store when I’m feeling overwhelmed and exhausted, they’re going to get an earful they weren’t prepared for.
hey hannah fun fact, last week i caught up on your horror stories during my first ever big tattoo session, thank you for being in my ear while i was in pain🙏😩
Hahaha that’s awesome! My pleasure 🤣
When I saw the word "tattoo," I thought it was gonna be a comment about getting Hannah's face tattooed tbh 😂😂
As a pagan who is in school to be a vet tech and is a huge activist for animal care, this first one made me cry, alot.
Scentbird needs to give you a bonus for this ad. The whole “connecting scent to memory” *chef’s kiss*
The one about the puppy really broke my heart because I just got a kitten and I would lose my mind if anyone tried to make me give her MLM crap if she was sick. Like, no thank you. She had an upper respiratory infection when we got her and we took her to the vet like good pet parents.
That first story sickened me. I imagine any vet would have been horrified at what they were having the dog consume. There are tons of illnesses dogs can be vulnerable to when they’re not getting their shots, particularly when they’re puppies. I feel so sorry to the sender that they had to witness that! 💛
I'd like to not consider myself an abusive person, but if I were dating someone and they tried to blame me for the death of their family pup due to my religion(or lack thereof) instead of the fact the family was poisoning/starving the poor thing to death, I'm pretty sure I'd slap them across the face. It wouldn't even be a conscious thought.
Stealing the dog would have been my first thought if I knew what was going on beforehand...I'm 33 and the last time I actually stole something from a store was when I was like 12 or 13(not saying it's ok but I was incredibly dumb and trying not to be a goody-goody in front of friends) so it's not something I would normally do...but at that point, I mean, they killed the dog!!! I can't with these people...
Omg. Not getting the puppy her shots? I lost a sweet baby puppy to parvo. It was brutal. Rabies is also a real thing. That also means that puppy isn't getting flea treatment and heartworm prevention. 😭
Avon ladies driving around in cars looking for their next victim sounds like the start of a really cool horror movie. Or parody horror by Edgar Wright.
Right?! Yes!!! Someone needs to make one. Or Jehovah’s 😂
Isn't that how Edward Scissorhands literally starts?
@@isabellamorris7902lol yes but she was an Avon Lady before Avon became an mlm
Hannah always manages to remind me to feel sympathy for MLM huns, instead of pettiness. Love that.
wow, when my husband was getting chemo, NO fragrances were allowed in the clinic.
That puppy story is one of the most upsetting things I've heard on this channel. They literally did everything incorrectly that they possibly could have. Like.. a creature DIED because of an mlm.
It so insane and so tragic. Juice Plus literally has _blood on their hands_
I love your cats always guest star in your videos. Extra treats and ear scratches for them.
I’m surprised the guy lurking in everyone’s backyard didn’t get shot. I would be terrified. In between house moves, my husband, I and our triplets moved into an apartment/townhouse complex in Irvine, CA back in 2004. My kids were around 1 at the time and there was a small patio that lead to a green space where there was a jungle gym. I found myself terrified when I noticed people peering into our living room from the sliding glass doors. They literally had to open a gate, walk through the patio to get to the slider. They were watching my kids. It was like we were on display and I was forced to keep the blinds closed to keep people away. Totally bizarre. 💜
If you come to the back door trying to sell me something then you’re getting pepper sprayed.
I am an evangelical, born-again Christian, and that juice lady was straight up crazy! Get the puppy the vaccines!
The hospital story reminded me of some minor MLM nonsense I experienced. I used to work the front desk in an emergency room and would clean the waiting area when I had time. I’d constantly find younique brochures sitting on the tables by our magazines like they were supposed to be there. I didn’t know what younique was at the time, but my scam senses are strong so I related it to Avon and would throw them away.
What I love about scent bird is that I have really sensitive senses. So sometimes I can't tell if a scent is going to be bad and give me headaches unless I can try it for a while. So that usually means spending on buying the whole thing and it makes me not very experimental because it is pricey and I can just end up with a migraine.
30:47 Zeek's little "mrphrr?" is so precous
“Dogs who are out and about in the community” wow, what a hilarious visual! Made me laugh out loud haha
Speaking as one who was in IBLP as a teenager, it's a cult and definitely a haven for people with overblown religious ideas and abusive tendencies. In fact, it sort of functions as a spiritual pyramid scheme, where the higher up and closer you are to the top, the more "successful" and "spiritual" you are seen to be. My interest in anti-MLM content is directly linked to my experience and recovery from IBLP. So many parallels.
That first story is horrifying. As a devout Christian I am embarrassed that these people are using the name of Christ in this horrible way. Jesus doesn’t shill supplements or blame atheists for the bad things that happen.
I agree. And only evil people could deprive a dog of necessary medical attention and poison and starve it to death.
Thank you for putting the puppy one in the title of the video. I just absolutely can't handle people being awful to animals, so I was glad to know in advance there was a story I was gonna need to skip. And now back to watching the rest of the video!
Yup, this. 100%.
I can't listen to anything regarding eating disorders so the heads up in videos is extremely appreciated for me as well
I work at an emergency vet. Nothing surprises me anymore about what people do to/with their pets. I’ve seen so many cases with essential oils, supplements and people choosing to pray and wait for guidance before seeking care
🥺my partner’s friend called last night to play video games, my partner asked about their cats, they have 2 and we have 4. His friend SO NONCHALANTLY said “yeah they’re fine, Aang threw up today and yesterday and there was blood in it.” I jumped in (partner always talks on speaker) and asked if he had eaten anything he wasn’t supposed to, and said they needed to take him to the emergency vet RIGHT NOW. Turns out, poor buddy got ahold of two nerf darts and fully ate them. Days prior. they were waiting for God to give them an answer about what to do bc they didn’t want to spend the money on an emergency vet. Neither cats have been vaccinated since adoption & when we go over there, they have ONE toy. A feather on a stick. They gave us their beds, too. Those cats literally have nothing & they never get paid any attention to bc of all the other issues that couple has (like his wife not taking birth control behind her husbands back and when she got pregnant he said it was “from god” good lord). They were denied for CareCredit so I put it in my name and he’s having surgery. Sorry for the rant but I just had to complain. My partner is always trying to be devil’s advocate but there’s nothing to say!! They aren’t responsible owners!! I understand accidents happen, but CMON!! My cats would never be left unattended with loose nerf darts for long enough for two of them to be fully ingested. And I would never let my cat basically sit there to die of internal bleeding. Maybe I’m being judgey- idc. I treat my cats like they’re little humans in the family, as I feel everyone should treat their pets.
Not judgey at all. If you take on the responsibilities of a pet or child that responsibility is taking them to get the proper care.
Hi Hannah, I've been subscribed for awhile, but never commented before. I've sent a couple of Horror stories to Deanna Mimms in the past. Anyway, I was absolutely horrified by the puppy story & the panic attack one. I was in several MLMs over 40 years, & every time I signed up, it was to get the discount. Back in the olden days, girlfriends would go to parties with physical demonstrations, and we'd be happy to help our friends get their free or exclusive stuff. I loved Tupperware and so it went loving the product and wanting the discount. I wish they'd had an anti MLM movement back then, as I thought it was harmless.
The story about the puppy was so sad, and also infuriating. Blaming her for the puppy's death was so messed up.
When my mother was in Mary Kay, her team would make wellness bags for cancer patients and would pass them out. They did this because her upline used to be a patient at this hospital and did this with her own money. They did include their business cards in case they decided to order more products, but they would pass these out every month. They would make a sale every once in a while, but never enough to replace the product used. But her upline used this as part of her fun money each month, so she was okay with this since this product helped her out when she was going through radiation. Not to defend them, but it's not the first time I have heard of a hun doing that.
I was just in the hospital getting a special chemo treatment and got a Mary Kay bag.
That’s really sweet the way she went about it 🤍 I’m sure it was a ray of light during a time like chemo, MLM or not. Very sweet thing to do with her own money
If only I had waited until now to go to the gym! My workout would’ve flown by watching your vid, Hannah! But now it’s like I get to treat myself after some hard work 😁
This makes me so sad, I just took our foster puppy to the vet with kennel cough and I can’t imagine the evil you must have in you to watch a dog be sick enough to die and not take it to the doctor. It’s disgusting
Dang, I'm in quick. And I was just mocking my dog that she needs to go to the vet to get her injection, guess I'll give give her nonsense juice instead.
We got our dog from my husband's sister. He nearly died 3 times under her care, twice from parvo. She fed him purity as a puppy and as a result he has lost about 80% of his teeth.
That vet story made so extremely sad. I work at an animal emergency clinic and the amount of people who wait on things, or don’t get regular vet care (like when people DONT VACCINATE THEIR PUPPIES), or try to just google things (like giving their dogs or cats ibuprofen or toxic oils -especially eucalyptus-), which then become emergencies is insane. It’s also so frustrating when we get blamed for it. Then, we get accused of just wanting peoples money. Which is not the case at all, unfortunately emergency care is just expensive (no different than a human hospital). And even though these people gave their dog (from what it sounds like) toxic supplements, or it had a virus that could have been treated with vaccines/ vet care (I suspect parvo or lepto because it’s usually one of those), science and vet med are somehow the evil…. That poor puppy did not deserve that.
I audibly gasped when you said they put their dog on the vegan diet
Thanks Hannah for bringing this to international attention. Essential oils & cannabis oils are not regulated by the FDA meaning very little or to much could be in each product. Who knows? As a massage therapist I avoid them simply bc I don't know anything about the patient's health prescription drug history or allergies. I'm not a pharmacist or a Dr or a DVM but Do No Harm Is the oath I sign when I renew my license. And to think most MLM Huns have no knowledge of the product they're selling except what the company says make my stomach churn
I put partial blame on Shaklee reps for contributing to my mom's death. They were pushing oils and supplements to treat her illness vs the actual medications from a doctor.
Mom should have listened to her doc but since her church as a child was very anti-mental health awareness or treatment she was already adverse to taking meds. Even after three life ending attempts and being put into a facility she went right back to magic oils to cure herself.
It ended horribly and detailed the lives of everyone impacted by her final successful attempt.
That is so sad to read 😢 we have one life for certain and it's tragic your mum lost hers, even worse that she lost it to fools.
I AM SO INFURIATED RIGHT NOW! The poor dog. I respect your channel so I will keep my comments to myself. Poor puppy. Poor girl. VERY NOT HAPPY.
As a veterinarian - you are legally required to have your dogs rabies vaccinated in the US.
I’m also an evangelical Christian…and am horrified by their behavior.
Is there anyone you can legally contact to report someone not vaccinating their pets?
Watching your videos while I’m home sick with covid 😫 thank you for your videos 💕
Edited to say i can totally relate to the smell memory thing! I bought a specific perfume for my wedding day and now every time i smell it it’s like I’m back in my wedding dress marrying the love of my life ❤️
The Young Living cult is huge in my area. One woman I know actually alienated her husband’s whole family because she was upset her mother in law got chemo for cancer instead of healing with oils and her company’s Ningxa juice. Her husband doesn’t talk to his family and his mother passed away during his absence. She stopped talking to friends who stopped selling EO’s as her down line and had a feud with her highschool best friend because her friend was more successful in the company. She was also sucked into the antivax movement and faith manipulation. So sad.
Amway is still my most hated MLM, but YL is a close second...
In my neck of the woods, if you are walking around people's backyards uninvited, you're going to get some nasty comments if not a gun pointed at you.
I love how you're always so concise with your words. I know that's your editing skill as well, but I can really tell that your background as an educator strengthens your content.
I remember when my mom and ex were big into MLM oils. My mom thought one of those inhalers you snort was the answer to my asthma troubles. My ex thought I didn't need to take synthroid, just put some oils on my feet and my thyroid would magically come back to life after being killed off and work again. I was so over their shit so quickly.
I’m so sick about the puppy. A literally deadly combo of religious zeal and MLM brainwashing. The more anti-MLM stories I listen to, the sadder I feel. It’s tragic what damage, danger and misery they bring.
Religious zealots are highly susceptible to MLMs because they are adverse to critical thinking
@@melissamoonchild9216 Yes! I’ve feared zealots and fanatics all my life. They and I live in different realities which rarely overlap.However, since so many are willing to employ bullying, violence, deceit and cruelty to obtain their goals, I can’t just just ignore them.
I’m sitting here DYING laughing at the tail in your face while you’re talking 😂😂😂
I love scentbird too, I've been using it for a year now ,if you have the monthly sub you also get to pick from deodorants as well as the perfumes. I've been exploring what I can get and even found my moms fav bottle cheaper than in retail stores. Also Hannah since i last commented on one of your lives about my animals I thought I'd tell you about my new foster kittens that look like your cats and i am in need of 2 girl names!!
Dottie in honor of Doterra🤣
@@alaskanbltundra oml when i read that i laughed so hard i had some tears but i have to admit it will be perfect for one of my beautiful girls lol
27:14 I got these attacks after my son was born. It was one of the worst pains I’ve ever felt. Only active labor was worse. It’s not only chest pain, it’s stabbing pain in the back as well. I was diagnosed with GERD after going to the hospital because we thought it was a heart attack. Diet definitely can help this.
Another great video and another day wishing to cuddle the cute kitties! lol I love your videos and LOVE the random appearances of your adorable cats!
I am irate at the first story. That sweet pup deserved so, so much better than the humans that failed her 😞 I have four rescue babies, so it hits close to home. My heart breaks for any animals they have in the future
Edit to add that I’m also an atheist, and weirdly that hasn’t caused the devil to possess any of my animals 🤷♀️ crazy
I had a rescue dog (he just recently passed away) who had something going on like every two weeks and I always took him to the vet. I cannot imagine never taking my dogs to the vet or getting them vaccinated. Like... what???
@@the_Sarahnator right?? And I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️❤️
@@uncannedspaghetti Thank you so much! 🥰
Leering at me through my window will not get ME to answer the door, that much I know. I remember years ago my doorbell rang at my apartment. I opened my door and peered out to where I can see the building entrance, and saw men I didn't know telling me to let them in the building. I just blankly stared back, then closed me door. The men went to the back of the building to everyone's back doors and they had one man dressed as a fireman. They knocked on my back window, looking at me and telling me they're with fire inspection and I need to let them in. I turned around and left the room with a phone ready to call 9-11 if they tried to break in. The landlord didn't have any inspections scheduled and the men didn't come back ever, so who knows what would have happened had I let them in.
That's scary af
I am a Christian and quite conservative and the people you find in that first story are _infuriating._ God created us with the intelligence and ability to create medicine. If you're sick, you go to the doctor. You can pray, absolutely, but why wouldn't you take advantage of a proper physician or veternarian? For the love of all that is holy, _take your dog to the frigging vet_ and _DON'T TRY TO FORCE YOUR PETS TO BE VEGAN._
Yes! The Juice people were wrong on so many levels. It reminded me of Jesus in the temple pushing over tables and sending the sellers out.
Yes and good christians should stop saying that awful crap about atheists, too. I am an atheist and cannot tell you how many times christians have said horrific things to me. It is abusive and crazy.
Absolutely. I don’t care what a person’s religion, politics, or beliefs are; the moment they give their pets a vegan diet, they have earned nothing but disgust from me. Cats, for example, are obligate carnivores. They cannot live on a diet without meat. If you’re a vegan and want non-meat-eating pets, get a rabbit or some other vegetarian animal.
I love this. God made you with intelligence. Use it.
Funny enough the farm animals that some of these crazy vegans love so much actually arent vegan themselves, out of choice, chickens, cows and pigs will all eat bugs and things thin their diet while grazing and its actually very healthy
Last story, if a car is slowly following you NEVER under ANY circumstances WALK UP TO THE CAR!!!!! 😱 Two women can over power one. A man could be laying down in the back. You have no idea if they have guns on them. It’s just a horrible absolutely horrible idea.
This was in UK.. no reason to think there would be guns. Thats more of a concern in USA
@@ivanac0002 very true. But you should seriously never approach a car that is stalking you regardless if guns are in your country or not. The vehicle itself is a deadly weapon. 😳
They poisoned their dog with things a dog shouldn't eat...... juiceplus...
So disgusting.
How do MLM reps not realize how dangerous some of these tactics are? This video alone mentions trespassing then looking in through people's windows, and following someone in a car. They are so lucky no one has pulled a gun on them!
I’m allergic to cats so I don’t know a lot about them but I’ve never seen such a cuddly cat as Zeek. What a sweetheart 🥰
I am here for it! Thank you for keeping me company while I work
sorry hannah your video is great but like, i'm absolutely hypnotized by how pretty your hair looks at the moment! its soooo shiny 😍
Ok so I'm absolutely triggered by the story of the dog. I work for an animal control agency and this is absolute cruelty. At the very least not having a rabies vaccination violates local statutes. If anyone ever encounters a situation like this they need to call their animal control and insist on a well being check immediately. That is absolute BS what they did and those people are negligent.
I don't own a dog but I was in tears while listening to that story that's just crazy! These people are not religious they are in a cult! UGH!!!
If someone came to the back of my house they would get a glizzy to welcome them. Coming into someone’s back yard- unless it was a wellness check or something happened- is NOT fkn ok.
Someone shilling water treatment? stuff knocked on my door the other day. It was two guys. I told them if I saw them knock on any neighbors doors I’d call police and that anyone selling door to door in 2022 is shady af. They left and I went for a walk and they had left the neighborhood. Any door to door sales are creepy now
Ahh I worked in the vet industry for 6 years. Never give random supplements, oils or herbal remedies without consulting a vet! Not only can pets be allergic to certain botanicals, but they can also have severe reactions to thinks like Xylitol (what makes many “sugar free” items sweet. Also known as birch sugar in some products.)
The pet story…if the juice plus works so well, why did she have to believe in god for the puppy to be saved? Pretty sure antibiotics work whether you think they will or not.
I was tempted to join an MLM that advertised its products on facebook back in 2008.
I was poor, couldn’t work, so being able to earn money from home would have helped.
Fortunately I can do maths and realised that if you had to recrute people to make money, you would run short of people at some point, and that this kind of business couldn’t sustain itself.
That’s how I didn’t join an MLM.
That last Avon one is how you get at best pepper sprayed, and at worst shot. You can’t just follow people in your car!! That’s how people get kidnapped so frequently and I’d lose my mind if someone did that to me.
random side note - my maiden name is Alonzo, so the discount code you gave for scentbird made me giggle a little
I would have immediately called the police and if that didn’t work I would have kidnapped the dog!!😭
Sometimes I’m grateful I live in an apartment cuz it keeps MLM huns out 😂
39:58 about this story I think she remember because then she wouldnt need to block her ,as predatory as these people are she was probably hoping the friend doesnt remember or to gaslight her something like "omg it was a joke,you take everything so personal" or something but also she could actually forgotten 😅
I can't get enough of listening to Hannah read any kind of stories and watch her cuddle and pet Zeke and Cooper ☺️
Thank you for the time stamps- I could not handle the pet death one, because that fills me with such sadness and rage it's just too damn much. As ever, well done, and I love that you are able to tell peoples' stories and that CC sends those people to you. :)
Doterra oils were used on me here in London 🇬🇧 during a reflexology session, I was ill for 24 hours and was told by others they had the same symptoms after these oils too. Scary!
I will literally never get over how cute your cat is. Please tell him how cute he is for me
I finally read all the anith MLM horror stories, I'm getting my fix in between time by reading the anti-MLM reddit group. You're amazing!
That story with the puppy broke my heart. That’s abuse! No doubt about it. I’m also a devoted Christian and I can say for certain that those people are looking down the barrel of hell if this is what they do and how they treat people, and helpless animals.
I recently started a scentbird subscription because of one of your videos and just got my first scent. I love it and I'm so glad you recommended it. It feels good to spoil myself with a good scent.
OMG Hanna..... your kitten's purr is everything that matters in life. It's purrfection.
If something touches your skin and causes you to break out, DEFINITELY DO NOT INGEST THE THING OH MY GOD.
When I first opened my legitimate small business I was able to spot being scammed by ppl who target new businesses by the hostility they have when you question them about things
Ok. I use Do Terra all the time. Actually there are tests proving that essential oil boosts immunity. I have also witnessed it heal small infections. Lavender oil helps with burns. My family and I use it for that reason every time. The problem is that you can’t use just one thing to treat a chronic condition. If some oils give you heart burn, don’t use them. They’ve helped me with stomach problems, especially peppermint. Also they’re not meant to be applied directly to the skin (except Lavender ). You use a carrier oil. As with anything, use caution! Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. What I hate is how MLMs take awesome, natural products and turn them into a scam.
My general rule is that anyone trying to call you over while in a car or on the street most likely never has good intentions. This goes for anything. My immediate reaction is to walk away or go into the nearest public area or store.
Good timing! I've just had a friend invite me to their business opportunity. She's been doing the 30 days from Arbonne!! I msg her your Arbonne deep dive - she gave me a whole spiel back including a TH-cam of Richard Branson supporting MLMs 🤣🤣 I sent her back saying I think she should research more as I'm concerned for her and sent the income disclosure (UK here and its bad). She then said how she researched all the "clean and toxic" free etc. I've just given up - the Pharmacist in me realises this is a lost cause 😞
The best advice I've heard to give in that situation is to keep a really detailed record of all the costs and income - sometimes people need to see their own mistake
Like Richard Branson is a good source 🤣
Thank you for this content, Hannah. Continued "wth" under breath, eye rolls, and jawdropping from my end of this video viewing... ❤️
The only acceptable thing to say (especially In the UK) when you pull up next to someone in your car is “Pardon me. Do you have any Grey Poupon?”
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OMG they said this in The Goldbergs. I'm a huuuggee fan from 🇬🇧❤
i have binged all of your videos over the past week!! so excited for a new video!
One thing that is rarely if ever mentioned is the “car allowance” will put a hit on your credit. If you want to keep your borrowing limit low for future purchases or If one’s credit is in recovery mode, it’s another reason not to fall for it.
What do you mean? How does it got your credit? I'm genuinely curious. Do they 'pre-qualify' you?
@@hopefulhuman If you finance or lease a car, your credit will be checked, and your score and credit history will determine your interest rate or even if you are eligible to drive the car off the lot.
32:19 What do you bet the delays in the messages from Emily were when she sent a message to her upline to ask how to "overcome objections?"
As a Christian I am sickened by the length some will go to promote their product, I can assuredly say God is NOT in MLMs.
I went to an essential oil party and the rep put a few drops of peppermint oil in each of our hands. The smell was so strong that even after washing my hands several times, I couldn't get the smell off of me. I drove home in the freezing cold with all of the windows down bc it was making me gag. Once home I scrubbed my hands with coffee grounds and finally got some relief. I still can't tolerate peppermint to this day bc of that incident. 😫
Do the Avon ladies in the car not realize that they're being super sus?😂 Like, were specifically told not to approach people trying to talk to us in cars because it could be a ploy.
On behalf of Christians that are NOT insane everywhere, please accept our sincere and heartfelt apologies that you encountered these lunatics.