I've had my S3H's for about 3 years now in my 15'x23' home studio, and I LOVE them! They're great for both mixing, and pleasure listening. I do appreciate the DSP EQ. Generally, I have the Hi Shelf at -0.7 dB, and a Lo Shelf at +0.3dB, and then a tiny mid bass boost in the right channel only, because my left speaker is closer to a side wall. Sadly, I cannot have my monitors perfectly symmetrical in the room, but the EQ has helped me balance the mid bass between the 2 channels. ADAM's software control for the EQ is VERY clunky, but better than nothing, I suppose. When shopping monitors, I demoed a pair of ATC SCM100's in my studio, and while impressive, I just did not warm up to them. I found the mids+highs to be cold and harsh. Maybe that's "accuracy" but I didn't find pleasure in listening to my favorite music on the ATCs. I use the S3H's as mid-fields sitting atop stereo 15" subs. Their low end is adequate, but you really need subs to move air below 40Hz. I do wish the DSP had a LF rolloff filter. Weird that they would not have that for crossing over to a sub. BTW... the 50watt amp on the tweeter is Class AB, not class D. These speakers have phenomenal dynamics!! Highly Recommended.
And now... we have the new A77H with a lot of features taken from the Adam "S" series. Including three voicings for: Uniform Natural Response, Pure, and Calibration Extended. And... an improved midrange.
These came 2nd place in Colt Capperunes monitor shootout he did just a few days ago. Only behind the Focal Trio 11 Be. Great video for you comment readers who want to see more opinions on this monitor!
I think the new Adam a7v is going to be on many wish/shopping lists. A review on those would be helpful. I have mine ordered and will be here in 2-3weeks, but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on them for small rooms.
I would LOVE if you guys got your hands on the Dynaudio LYD48 for a thorough review. I've heard great things about them, but there really aren't much reviews of them out there.
The LYD48 is pretty good to be honest. However, they sound a bit short of what the new genelecs or barefoots can do for virtually the same price. Transient detail and treble are really nice but the stereo imaging and sonic separation just isn't there in my opinion. Bass response is fast and accurate, yet could use another octave. Mid range is up to par. The high end is great around 2-8k but i feel like it begins to get dull after that point.
I’m very strongly with you, Mark, about DSP on my monitor speakers. My message to the manufacturer: “I’m happy with bass compensation for free-space, half-space as well as very subtle HF adjust to compensate for listening distance, but that’s about it. Give me, to the best possibility, the RIGHT dynamic and static response. The fruit of your best efforts and experience. I can correct both my environment and my installation and don’t want you to pretend to work that out for me with marketing-friendly DSP.”
>Luv the cat! - thankyou for S3H review, had mine 2years, monitors for us are a bigger deal than a new vehicle, only drivin with AES but one day did go analog from RME ADI-2Po & they sounded terrible not more than 2minutes. I wanted to touch on S3H'a only after releasing their new A-Series, i will not go down there... but did you have to rub it it in about ATC performance - your ears are very blessed, we all are thankyou.
A long term friend of mine is currently setting up a commercial studio and is currently deciding between the ADAM S2V's and the S3H's. I will be working as an engineer there once it's all setup and we've tried to include an AES Output Array for any outboard or Dante systems we're using, but it's very interesting that you feel the AES has a nicer response as far as monitors are concerned. When we're trying them out, I will definitely be paying attention to this :D. Amazing review as always, keep it up! 😀
Hi guys, thanks for the great review... Resolve nerd here speaking.. I think you have a qualifier on the blue wall behind Mark and it is a bit blotchy .. Either widen the range or in case of the 3D one, add more noise reduction Cheers :)
Another great great video! 🙏 Hmm, I got a pair of iLoud MTM’s. Would LOVE to hear a Markview (tm) on those! Since they too have a DSP and room calibration built in. ‘Life is like a box with speakers in it, you never know what ya gonna get.’ -Forrest Grump
Chack the PMC6-2 pro this monitor is insane!😍A little beast! 👊the bass is so massive and really clean smooth and detail Sound! Fantastic lowend, mide and hi.. I love this monitor! 😍👌🤗
Please do a video on IN-8 from kali. Considering upgrading from my five inch bi amp monitors and these are the cheapest three way design which I can afford.
We’ve actually got some of those ready to be sent our way. We’re just waiting for stock levels to come back up, but they said that will be around January 2022! But it’s definitely going to happen. I’ve spoken to them!
Hey guys ! How are you doing? What a great video again…;) I wondered if you had the chance to listen to the quested VS3208b ? If yes, what do you think about them ? I have the chance to buy one pair for my studio. Have a nice day
Hi Jaap! They’re great speakers, but I didn’t like the mid range. I think it’s crossed over fairly high with the bass drivers (1.2khz-ish?) and lacked the dynamism and detail that their larger models that use the Volt VM752 mid driver exhibit. But it’s down to personal preference really, and for this sort of purchase you really do need to hear them before you commit!
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks a lot for your response! So maybe it’s a good idea to replace the mid drivers with some others mid drivers from volt or from BlieSma;) What do you think ? And yes that’s for sure I will listen to them before buying them. Cheers
I just discovered you channel, amazing stuff! If you ever get your hands on them, it would be great to see you review the D&D 8C :) I'd also be interested in knowing how exactly the performance improves when using AES. Is it something that is measurable? Does the frequency response slightly change, is it less distortion, etc...? Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the review. I used to have the Adam 77x too and didn't like the tweeters in the end. Now I own a pair of Hedd audio typ 20 mk2. Do you guys know them? I would love to see a review of them. Keep on the good work
@@PresentDayProduction I have the HEDD Type20 MKII , they are excellent! Would very much like your opinions/review on them, hope you get to try a pair! :)
Personally I would go with HEDD speakers over ADAMs. I have original ADAMs that Klaus did and newer ADAMs. I knee jerked bought them for my studio because I couldn't pry my S3As off my turntable setup... Wish I had known about Klaus starting his own company after leaving ADAM. Then again they are super hard to find in stock.
i hated the old adam, but the s3h, boy, they win me over, plus the aes input saves you from buying dedicated dac for monitoring, i agree perfectly that the AES input yields the best presentation
When I heard in other reviews that these monitors perhaps didn’t go quite low enough, I didn’t realise that meant you had to stand up to listen to them. These Adams monitors are possibly above the price bracket for some (many..?) of us... but, if your ‘actual’ monitor-bracket is a fuck-off massive ATC speaker, I suppose they could seem like a bargain. So, no ripping the front off and stuffing it with concrete this time? Yep deffo’,... I wouldn’t want ‘any’ DSP in a monitor, at all. Actually, though... the more I hear about the Neumanns... eg: they’re not over-egging the mid-range as much as these... the more I’m tempted towards them (not least as they’re at the top of my own meagre price point potential). Maybe we need a PDP recommended speaker for different prices... a grand... two grand... three--- etc.
Great review! This might be a dumb question but is there a way to control AES output level with a hardware monitor controller? Something about only being able to control the level being fed into my monitors with a digital fader doesn't seem very intuitive to me.
With most RME interfaces for example you can use their ARC USB remote control and freely assign the main rotary controller to the AES output. I think Apogee can do that as well. That way you're practically adding a hardware controller that controls the interface's mixing software which then controls the AES level. It's still through software but more hands on.
I'm no traditionalist (but I am old), however I do agree with Mark on this one. This kind of manually-adjusted DSP on monitors at this price point is.... a strange choice. If your room isn't already pretty sorted, why on earth would you be spending this amount of money on a pair of monitors. Dare I say the DSP on the fourth generation KRK Rokits makes a lot more sense (and actually, it looks like it's implemented a lot more intuitively). I honestly just can't imagine thinking "my room isn't ideal - I know, I'll spend thousands on monitors with built in DSP to compensate for my dodgy room". Interested to hear these though. Generally have good experiences with ADAM stuff.
I should add - the one DSP system I've been impressed the most with is the Genelec GLM system, which relies on a measurement mic to calibrate the monitors to the environment. I've found it fairly subtle in the changes it makes, and have never had any issues with it in terms of translation.
How dis you actually get aes outputs with your existing setup? If I was to actually use the feature I’d want it to work over asio ideally in conjunction with my existing interface. I haven’t found a solid solution to that so far... Great video as always!
Hey fellas, I love your channel and reviews. I have been taking more mastering work recently and it's time to upgrade my monitors, but I don't have a gigantic budget. These were top of my list, but then Mark said he wouldn't use them for mastering. So what would you recommend for mastering monitors under $10k?
Had tried adam S3X,A5X,A7X,A77X,the sweet spot is too narrow,maybe i can working on it but if my client come to studio would toast me *_*. Your Kerr speakers use the same mid and bass drivers as PMC and Quested?They all looks like the Volt product.
The cat reminds me of ours, when I was little. What a cute and beautiful beast. Well, great review and if I ever build a better place, they would be something to save up for. Well, tbh, at this point, they'll probably be outdated :).
@@PresentDayProduction I'm not doubting that, but there would be a hundred things to do first :). And I still like my good old Wharfdales. Time will tell, I guess.
Awesome review! I've been considering the S3H's (more like dreamed about them haha) for a while, but ended up with Genelec 8050B's for the time being. What would you suggest I upgrade my 2i2 to so they are not bottlenecked?
i use the Adam A7X and love it. :D i never hear sound better than this and i look at adam homepage and was interested to watch what you can do better than this and for me as Videoproducer i don´t know how you can make better sound. xD I can hear every single detail easily, why i must spend more than 5 times? is the difference so big for hearing the same detail in the same way?
Interesting you outlines the lack of depth in the sound, that was Colt Capperune’s conclusion as well, they’re great sounding but 2-Dimensional….great video!!
I don’t have the space (both literally and in terms of treatment on account of living in a small flat and thus mixing on headphones) for proper monitors but these look and sound fantastic! Another great review by you guys! P.S.: What’s your mastering engineer’s take at top down mixing? Is it all the same, does it make your job harder in any way?
We’re actually doing a video on top down mixing but, spoiler alert, I’m not a fan. I think having some sort of chain on your stereo out before you’ve even started the mixing process is a pretty ridiculous way to go about doing things, and somewhat akin to me deciding I want to slap a pair of Pultecs over someone’s master before I’ve listened to it, just because ‘they sound great’ or I haven’t used them for a while! Pretty much every stunning track I’ve had the pleasure of working on in all the years I’ve been not only mastering, but recording, producing and mixing, have started with a damn good recording of an amazing performance and generally needed very little processing at the mix stage, and often nothing at all at the mastering stage. I could also give you a list of hundreds of label projects I’ve mastered where the songs have come in, I’ve listened and thought “wow that sounds incredible”, made sure it’s the right level for the various distribution platforms and done nothing else at all. Top down mixing is also generally a bad approach for the beginner - if they send a mix to me that’s over processed in the master bus department then the mix nearly always falls apart if I ask them to back the compression off a bit, or if the snare is too bright but the vocal is about right, and that’s coming from an EQ on the output rather than channel EQ. It’s ‘easier’ to mix into compression, because that does a lot of the work for you, but you don’t learn how compression works that way, and it’s far better to learn to record in a way that means you don’t even need compression, or very little, rather than slapping it on the stereo out to begin with! If you’re Andrew Scheps, no problem. If you’re not at that level then get it right at the earliest stages possible.
@@PresentDayProduction we are on the same page (again!), then, with regards to how much mixing and mastering a properly orchestrated and recorded song needs! I am looking forward to the relevant video, I always appreciate your take on studio stuff, especially since I am not an audio engineer, rather a humble musician trying to get by in the studio!
Hi thanks a lot and very nice monitors indeed It would be nice to have tweeter and dome mid flange that can be rotate on the same speaker this would avoid the need of a vertical version ? It is just a matter of making a squared flange that can work vertical and horizontal Moreover i like very much the fact that the V dispersion of the tw and mid are more restricted to avoid reflections i guess Just i dont understand why the H disperion is less restriceted Also side walls can be very nasty Kind regards gino
@@PresentDayProduction Hi thank you very much for the very kind and valuable advice. I think it is a very smart and handy concept As i said it is only a matter to make square flanges for the driver instead of rectangular Moreover it seems to me that they have mantained a certain H dispersion and reduced more the V one I like speakers with narrow and constant dispersion Clearly this will limit the sweet spot size but in a domestic environment could be a nice thing I have notice that a too wide dispersion can mess up the soundstage precision I am looking for your PDP speaker now Kindest regards, gino
Thank you! We released the final model of this at the start of December to our email subscribers and discord members, and we will be releasing it to TH-cam within the next month or so. You won't find the release model on the internet just yet - there's a private link on our Discord. presentdayproduction.com/discord for our discord server, or www.presentdayproduction.com/signup for the email list. As the email has already been sent though, you won’t be able to get the link from our email list until we send another one out, so I’d advise joining the discord and I’ll point you in the right direction. As I said we will be announcing this to TH-cam shortly anyway, but it was a sneak peak for our community.
Hmmmm... I am not convinced. I am an old hifi nerdy engineer. I fell in love many years ago with a real AMT tweeter, the first one, doctor Heil design, used for the first time in ESS AMT1 model. That was the best tweeter I have ever heard in my life. All the following AMT realizations I had a chance to hear were not comparable with the original. I need to live 2 or 3 weeks with an Adam system to check if they solved engineering issues. Some minutes of a chaotic listen in a musical instruments store did not satisfied my nerdy dreams expectations. I hope you are right. In the meantime I keep on using my Dynaudio Esotar tweeters in my self built monitors.
I think they have!.... I'm 55 and I've lived with many a domed tweeter, and I find the S3H's tweeter to be the clearest & non-fatiguing tweeter I've ever owned. That said, I do keep the Hi Shelf set to -0.7dB at 4k, and they sound perfect to me. In the Vintage King showroom, I was A/Bing the ADAMs with the Focal Trio's, and found that I had to cut the tweeter by -.5dB to match the brightness of the Focal's. I spent well over an hour playing music I brought in, and I preferred the sound of the ADAMs. (no diss to the Focal's, which were very good, and very pretty).
There are various speakers in the background of most shots, so I’m going to take an educated guess and say that you’re looking at the clip with the Kerr Acoustic K100 :) Hopefully that’s the right one!
Another thing to consider here is depth. Another channel talked about these and mentioned that they are similar to ns10 in terms of “depth” whereas other speakers like ATC’s are more 3D sounding and have that space. Maybe that’s what you mean by plasticity?
Honestly I really support your dudes content, but how are you gonna compare the KH310 drivers with that adam. The adam is almost twice the price. its 1800 vs 3000. Not a fair comparison at all IMHO, you could have at least mentioned the price difference. Also it would be an interesting topic I think to open up talking about sealed cabinet speakers vs ported btw. keep it going my dudes
@@PresentDayProduction Still don't get it though but ok your an ATC snob xDDD (edit: I actually worked on the scm 45 in a studio once and I gotta say I don't think the difference is 7k big, but on the other hand if I got used to them I would probably value it more)
Thank you for such an in-depth review guys 👍
Really love all the videos you guys are pumping out, just want to say thanks!
Thank YOU for watching!
I've had my S3H's for about 3 years now in my 15'x23' home studio, and I LOVE them! They're great for both mixing, and pleasure listening. I do appreciate the DSP EQ. Generally, I have the Hi Shelf at -0.7 dB, and a Lo Shelf at +0.3dB, and then a tiny mid bass boost in the right channel only, because my left speaker is closer to a side wall. Sadly, I cannot have my monitors perfectly symmetrical in the room, but the EQ has helped me balance the mid bass between the 2 channels. ADAM's software control for the EQ is VERY clunky, but better than nothing, I suppose. When shopping monitors, I demoed a pair of ATC SCM100's in my studio, and while impressive, I just did not warm up to them. I found the mids+highs to be cold and harsh. Maybe that's "accuracy" but I didn't find pleasure in listening to my favorite music on the ATCs. I use the S3H's as mid-fields sitting atop stereo 15" subs. Their low end is adequate, but you really need subs to move air below 40Hz. I do wish the DSP had a LF rolloff filter. Weird that they would not have that for crossing over to a sub. BTW... the 50watt amp on the tweeter is Class AB, not class D. These speakers have phenomenal dynamics!! Highly Recommended.
do you have a sub with them
Fantastic review guys, it’s great to see someone compare them to higher end monitors to get a perspective on what you get if you spend more
And now... we have the new A77H with a lot of features taken from the Adam "S" series. Including three voicings for: Uniform Natural Response, Pure, and Calibration Extended. And... an improved midrange.
3:06 haha I had to rewind and hear that again 😂😂😂 I’m sure any acoustician worth their salt would agree with you!
I have never heard of AES Input before. Nice video :)
These came 2nd place in Colt Capperunes monitor shootout he did just a few days ago. Only behind the Focal Trio 11 Be. Great video for you comment readers who want to see more opinions on this monitor!
I haven’t seen that yet, will have to check it out 👍
I think the new Adam a7v is going to be on many wish/shopping lists.
A review on those would be helpful. I have mine ordered and will be here in 2-3weeks, but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on them for small rooms.
I would LOVE if you guys got your hands on the Dynaudio LYD48 for a thorough review. I've heard great things about them, but there really aren't much reviews of them out there.
We’ll shout out to Dynaudio and see if we can make it happen!
The LYD48 is pretty good to be honest. However, they sound a bit short of what the new genelecs or barefoots can do for virtually the same price. Transient detail and treble are really nice but the stereo imaging and sonic separation just isn't there in my opinion. Bass response is fast and accurate, yet could use another octave. Mid range is up to par. The high end is great around 2-8k but i feel like it begins to get dull after that point.
I’m very strongly with you, Mark, about DSP on my monitor speakers. My message to the manufacturer: “I’m happy with bass compensation for free-space, half-space as well as very subtle HF adjust to compensate for listening distance, but that’s about it. Give me, to the best possibility, the RIGHT dynamic and static response. The fruit of your best efforts and experience. I can correct both my environment and my installation and don’t want you to pretend to work that out for me with marketing-friendly DSP.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
>Luv the cat! - thankyou for S3H review, had mine 2years, monitors for us are a bigger deal than a new vehicle, only drivin with AES but one day did go analog from RME ADI-2Po & they sounded terrible not more than 2minutes. I wanted to touch on S3H'a only after releasing their new A-Series, i will not go down there... but did you have to rub it it in about ATC performance - your ears are very blessed, we all are thankyou.
Thanks!
Will you be doing a video about the PMC's and how they compare to the ATC's?
If we can get our hands on some!
A long term friend of mine is currently setting up a commercial studio and is currently deciding between the ADAM S2V's and the S3H's. I will be working as an engineer there once it's all setup and we've tried to include an AES Output Array for any outboard or Dante systems we're using, but it's very interesting that you feel the AES has a nicer response as far as monitors are concerned. When we're trying them out, I will definitely be paying attention to this :D. Amazing review as always, keep it up! 😀
Hi guys, thanks for the great review...
Resolve nerd here speaking..
I think you have a qualifier on the blue wall behind Mark and it is a bit blotchy ..
Either widen the range or in case of the 3D one, add more noise reduction
Cheers :)
Great info here! 💯
Another great great video! 🙏 Hmm, I got a pair of iLoud MTM’s. Would LOVE to hear a Markview (tm) on those! Since they too have a DSP and room calibration built in. ‘Life is like a box with speakers in it, you never know what ya gonna get.’ -Forrest Grump
Chack the PMC6-2 pro this monitor is insane!😍A little beast! 👊the bass is so massive and really clean smooth and detail Sound! Fantastic lowend, mide and hi.. I love this monitor! 😍👌🤗
Have you lads ever tested ME Geithain monitors? I would love to hear some notes or perspectives on their coaxial alignments.
longly awaited as people saying)))
Please do a video on IN-8 from kali.
Considering upgrading from my five inch bi amp monitors and these are the cheapest three way design which I can afford.
We’ve actually got some of those ready to be sent our way. We’re just waiting for stock levels to come back up, but they said that will be around January 2022! But it’s definitely going to happen. I’ve spoken to them!
@@PresentDayProduction thanks can't wait 🔥🔥🔥🤩
@10:38 the speaker is rotating...is that bottom plate included with the speaker purchase ? if not, what brand are they ? thanks
It’s called a Lazy Susan, it’s a rotating plate for filming products
@@PresentDayProduction thank you sir !! appreciate it !!
What is the proper way to hook them up via aes?
Not filling these ones with cement then lol
Hey guys ! How are you doing? What a great video again…;) I wondered if you had the chance to listen to the quested VS3208b ? If yes, what do you think about them ? I have the chance to buy one pair for my studio. Have a nice day
Hi Jaap! They’re great speakers, but I didn’t like the mid range. I think it’s crossed over fairly high with the bass drivers (1.2khz-ish?) and lacked the dynamism and detail that their larger models that use the Volt VM752 mid driver exhibit. But it’s down to personal preference really, and for this sort of purchase you really do need to hear them before you commit!
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks a lot for your response! So maybe it’s a good idea to replace the mid drivers with some others mid drivers from volt or from BlieSma;) What do you think ? And yes that’s for sure I will listen to them before buying them. Cheers
?:)
The Hedd Type 30 Studiomonitors would be interesting in comparisson :)
I just discovered you channel, amazing stuff!
If you ever get your hands on them, it would be great to see you review the D&D 8C :)
I'd also be interested in knowing how exactly the performance improves when using AES. Is it something that is measurable? Does the frequency response slightly change, is it less distortion, etc...?
Thanks a lot!
new pmc monitors also have eq adjustment on their back
This is the only speakers from Adam, that everyone's agreed it's good. PS And of course i can't afford them :)
Thanks for all the amazing videos. Please consider reviewing PSI monitors. I am sure you will be amazed.
Thanks! I’ll check them out in the morning :)
That cat is the star of the show!
Thanks for the review. I used to have the Adam 77x too and didn't like the tweeters in the end. Now I own a pair of Hedd audio typ 20 mk2. Do you guys know them? I would love to see a review of them. Keep on the good work
We’ve heard of the HEDD monitors you mentioned, we can try to get a pair for review!
@@PresentDayProduction great if you did
@@PresentDayProduction I have the HEDD Type20 MKII , they are excellent! Would very much like your opinions/review on them, hope you get to try a pair! :)
Personally I would go with HEDD speakers over ADAMs. I have original ADAMs that Klaus did and newer ADAMs. I knee jerked bought them for my studio because I couldn't pry my S3As off my turntable setup... Wish I had known about Klaus starting his own company after leaving ADAM. Then again they are super hard to find in stock.
I Have the HEDD Type 20s, I'd like to hear your thoughts Mark and James! I'm considering upgrading to the Type 20 MKII and adding the sub.
James here - they’re on my list of speakers to obtain for review but some companies (Focal, I’m looking at you) aren’t the best at communication
i hated the old adam, but the s3h, boy, they win me over, plus the aes input saves you from buying dedicated dac for monitoring, i agree perfectly that the AES input yields the best presentation
please ds the vocals ssss are too loud in my headphones
Yep, we missed that on this one! Sorry!
@@PresentDayProduction Thank you
When I heard in other reviews that these monitors perhaps didn’t go quite low enough, I didn’t realise that meant you had to stand up to listen to them.
These Adams monitors are possibly above the price bracket for some (many..?) of us... but, if your ‘actual’ monitor-bracket is a fuck-off massive ATC speaker, I suppose they could seem like a bargain.
So, no ripping the front off and stuffing it with concrete this time?
Yep deffo’,... I wouldn’t want ‘any’ DSP in a monitor, at all.
Actually, though... the more I hear about the Neumanns... eg: they’re not over-egging the mid-range as much as these... the more I’m tempted towards them (not least as they’re at the top of my own meagre price point potential). Maybe we need a PDP recommended speaker for different prices... a grand... two grand... three--- etc.
A PDP recommended speaker list is a great idea!
@@PresentDayProduction +1 on that!
Can you do a review for a HEDD TYPE 20 MK2 or TYPE 30 MK2 ??? And compare them to ADAM S3H ???
If we can get some!
@@PresentDayProduction Thank you ,im wait
Informative video (as always)...Well done.
Say hello to the kitty for me....
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Kitty says “hello”!
I got some passive SCM 100's a few year back for £3,500.. Pretty good money.
Good purchase there!
I nearly bought atc 100actives for £4k a few years back. Still kicking myself for not getting them.
@@mixmaxer1162 Good money that! Great speakers.
Looks like AES is like SPDIF, right? I guess that means the conversion is happening in the speaker then, right?
Exactly. So the signal is digital right into the speaker, then DAC to output to the drivers :)
The cat decided that the Adams were a "stretch" ahead 🤣🤣🤣
Great review! This might be a dumb question but is there a way to control AES output level with a hardware monitor controller? Something about only being able to control the level being fed into my monitors with a digital fader doesn't seem very intuitive to me.
Certain monitor controllers also have an AES output! So you can have physical knob control.
@@PresentDayProduction I'm so happy to hear that! Thank you.
With most RME interfaces for example you can use their ARC USB remote control and freely assign the main rotary controller to the AES output. I think Apogee can do that as well.
That way you're practically adding a hardware controller that controls the interface's mixing software which then controls the AES level. It's still through software but more hands on.
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Do we know if Adam is going to add Sonarworks suport fot s3h?
Good honest review, all down to how much money you have….
I'm no traditionalist (but I am old), however I do agree with Mark on this one. This kind of manually-adjusted DSP on monitors at this price point is.... a strange choice. If your room isn't already pretty sorted, why on earth would you be spending this amount of money on a pair of monitors. Dare I say the DSP on the fourth generation KRK Rokits makes a lot more sense (and actually, it looks like it's implemented a lot more intuitively). I honestly just can't imagine thinking "my room isn't ideal - I know, I'll spend thousands on monitors with built in DSP to compensate for my dodgy room".
Interested to hear these though. Generally have good experiences with ADAM stuff.
I should add - the one DSP system I've been impressed the most with is the Genelec GLM system, which relies on a measurement mic to calibrate the monitors to the environment. I've found it fairly subtle in the changes it makes, and have never had any issues with it in terms of translation.
PPS FLOPCAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!
Superb
How dis you actually get aes outputs with your existing setup? If I was to actually use the feature I’d want it to work over asio ideally in conjunction with my existing interface. I haven’t found a solid solution to that so far...
Great video as always!
Hey fellas, I love your channel and reviews. I have been taking more mastering work recently and it's time to upgrade my monitors, but I don't have a gigantic budget. These were top of my list, but then Mark said he wouldn't use them for mastering. So what would you recommend for mastering monitors under $10k?
ATC SCM45 (although you don’t get the SL drivers until you go up to the SCM50, and they DO make a difference!) or PSI A25M, or our new monitors!
What is the mid-range crossed over to highs and lows frequency parameters
Had tried adam S3X,A5X,A7X,A77X,the sweet spot is too narrow,maybe i can working on it but if my client come to studio would toast me *_*.
Your Kerr speakers use the same mid and bass drivers as PMC and Quested?They all looks like the Volt product.
The sweet spot is much wider with the S3A. And yes, the Kerr Acoustic K100 and K200 use volt bass and mid drivers
The cat reminds me of ours, when I was little. What a cute and beautiful beast.
Well, great review and if I ever build a better place, they would be something to save up for. Well, tbh, at this point, they'll probably be outdated :).
Cheers Peter! ADAMs are normally a safe bet when looking to kit out a studio :)
@@PresentDayProduction I'm not doubting that, but there would be a hundred things to do first :). And I still like my good old Wharfdales.
Time will tell, I guess.
Awesome review! I've been considering the S3H's (more like dreamed about them haha) for a while, but ended up with Genelec 8050B's for the time being. What would you suggest I upgrade my 2i2 to so they are not bottlenecked?
i use the Adam A7X and love it. :D
i never hear sound better than this and i look at adam homepage and was interested to watch what you can do better than this and for me as Videoproducer i don´t know how you can make better sound. xD
I can hear every single detail easily, why i must spend more than 5 times? is the difference so big for hearing the same detail in the same way?
Adam S3H vs Eve SC4070 vs KS Digital A200mk2? I'm cosidering buying one of them, any info is greatly appreciated.
Interesting you outlines the lack of depth in the sound, that was Colt Capperune’s conclusion as well, they’re great sounding but 2-Dimensional….great video!!
I don’t have the space (both literally and in terms of treatment on account of living in a small flat and thus mixing on headphones) for proper monitors but these look and sound fantastic! Another great review by you guys!
P.S.: What’s your mastering engineer’s take at top down mixing? Is it all the same, does it make your job harder in any way?
We’re actually doing a video on top down mixing but, spoiler alert, I’m not a fan. I think having some sort of chain on your stereo out before you’ve even started the mixing process is a pretty ridiculous way to go about doing things, and somewhat akin to me deciding I want to slap a pair of Pultecs over someone’s master before I’ve listened to it, just because ‘they sound great’ or I haven’t used them for a while! Pretty much every stunning track I’ve had the pleasure of working on in all the years I’ve been not only mastering, but recording, producing and mixing, have started with a damn good recording of an amazing performance and generally needed very little processing at the mix stage, and often nothing at all at the mastering stage. I could also give you a list of hundreds of label projects I’ve mastered where the songs have come in, I’ve listened and thought “wow that sounds incredible”, made sure it’s the right level for the various distribution platforms and done nothing else at all. Top down mixing is also generally a bad approach for the beginner - if they send a mix to me that’s over processed in the master bus department then the mix nearly always falls apart if I ask them to back the compression off a bit, or if the snare is too bright but the vocal is about right, and that’s coming from an EQ on the output rather than channel EQ. It’s ‘easier’ to mix into compression, because that does a lot of the work for you, but you don’t learn how compression works that way, and it’s far better to learn to record in a way that means you don’t even need compression, or very little, rather than slapping it on the stereo out to begin with! If you’re Andrew Scheps, no problem. If you’re not at that level then get it right at the earliest stages possible.
@@PresentDayProduction we are on the same page (again!), then, with regards to how much mixing and mastering a properly orchestrated and recorded song needs!
I am looking forward to the relevant video, I always appreciate your take on studio stuff, especially since I am not an audio engineer, rather a humble musician trying to get by in the studio!
Hi thanks a lot and very nice monitors indeed It would be nice to have tweeter and dome mid flange that can be rotate on the same speaker this would avoid the need of a vertical version ?
It is just a matter of making a squared flange that can work vertical and horizontal Moreover i like very much the fact that the V dispersion of the tw and mid are more restricted to avoid reflections i guess Just i dont understand why the H disperion is less restriceted Also side walls can be very nasty Kind regards gino
The idea you mentioned is very similar to our own PDP model of speaker, that’s featured on ours.
@@PresentDayProduction Hi thank you very much for the very kind and valuable advice.
I think it is a very smart and handy concept
As i said it is only a matter to make square flanges for the driver instead of rectangular
Moreover it seems to me that they have mantained a certain H dispersion and reduced more the V one I like speakers with narrow and constant dispersion
Clearly this will limit the sweet spot size but in a domestic environment could be a nice thing
I have notice that a too wide dispersion can mess up the soundstage precision
I am looking for your PDP speaker now
Kindest regards, gino
Thank you! We released the final model of this at the start of December to our email subscribers and discord members, and we will be releasing it to TH-cam within the next month or so. You won't find the release model on the internet just yet - there's a private link on our Discord.
presentdayproduction.com/discord for our discord server, or www.presentdayproduction.com/signup for the email list.
As the email has already been sent though, you won’t be able to get the link from our email list until we send another one out, so I’d advise joining the discord and I’ll point you in the right direction. As I said we will be announcing this to TH-cam shortly anyway, but it was a sneak peak for our community.
Hmmmm... I am not convinced. I am an old hifi nerdy engineer. I fell in love many years ago with a real AMT tweeter, the first one, doctor Heil design, used for the first time in ESS AMT1 model. That was the best tweeter I have ever heard in my life.
All the following AMT realizations I had a chance to hear were not comparable with the original. I need to live 2 or 3 weeks with an Adam system to check if they solved engineering issues.
Some minutes of a chaotic listen in a musical instruments store did not satisfied my nerdy dreams expectations. I hope you are right.
In the meantime I keep on using my Dynaudio Esotar tweeters in my self built monitors.
I think they have!.... I'm 55 and I've lived with many a domed tweeter, and I find the S3H's tweeter to be the clearest & non-fatiguing tweeter I've ever owned. That said, I do keep the Hi Shelf set to -0.7dB at 4k, and they sound perfect to me. In the Vintage King showroom, I was A/Bing the ADAMs with the Focal Trio's, and found that I had to cut the tweeter by -.5dB to match the brightness of the Focal's. I spent well over an hour playing music I brought in, and I preferred the sound of the ADAMs. (no diss to the Focal's, which were very good, and very pretty).
What brand/model are the speakers you mentioned in the back?
There are various speakers in the background of most shots, so I’m going to take an educated guess and say that you’re looking at the clip with the Kerr Acoustic K100 :)
Hopefully that’s the right one!
@@PresentDayProduction yes yes 😁 thank you!! I couldn't make out the name.
How did you manage to do this whole review without once mentioning E.T.?
Another thing to consider here is depth. Another channel talked about these and mentioned that they are similar to ns10 in terms of “depth” whereas other speakers like ATC’s are more 3D sounding and have that space. Maybe that’s what you mean by plasticity?
Wow that Kerr acoustic is 27K per pair
I think, PSI is the best! Do you know this brand?
Yep, and they’re bringing their A25 monitors in on Monday for us to review!
Good evening
Came here to watch about Mac M1 and stayed a while! I'm also a Mr grumpy jaws, so identify :D
Welcome! Thanks for staying a while!
Honestly I really support your dudes content, but how are you gonna compare the KH310 drivers with that adam. The adam is almost twice the price. its 1800 vs 3000. Not a fair comparison at all IMHO, you could have at least mentioned the price difference. Also it would be an interesting topic I think to open up talking about sealed cabinet speakers vs ported btw. keep it going my dudes
Thanks Joost, and yeah, I know, they’re at very different price points, it’s just my hatred of the KH kicking in!
@@PresentDayProduction Still don't get it though but ok your an ATC snob xDDD (edit: I actually worked on the scm 45 in a studio once and I gotta say I don't think the difference is 7k big, but on the other hand if I got used to them I would probably value it more)
It is very frustrating to hear that a 2.5k monitor isn't a good fit for mastering as well.
I wouldn’t use it, that doesn’t mean nobody else should!
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Atcs are a different beast, its silly to think they’re as good.. Ive got the S3Vs and they’re good at revealing mids/highs but nowhere as musical.
Adam is tot
The price. Are you insane?
Is a good or bad way? 😂
@@PresentDayProduction the bad way of course, like the way insanity drives you to believe money and clarity are equatable. 🤣