Fun fact: The military strategist who came up with the Blue corps idea, is the same one who was responsible for the military strategy in the battle of Winterfell against the white walkers! True story!
Yea, like, who could think that picking out enemies one by one with a few dozens elite soldiers using expensive gear that takes heavy casualties in the very few minutes of the battle already won't be that efficient strategy when scaled up to a crowd of thousands such enemies? They simply didn't have such computation technology back in the mystical times!
These soldiers are hilariously inefficient. 1 Kill per spear with like a 50-70% death chance. Meanwhile they could just THROW the spears for the same result...
I forget : Did they ever address the stupidity of the crane corps strategy, or have one of the characters say "Hey, the blue ones should do *this* instead"?
Honestly its not that stupid, it's just the weapon choice. Swords would be wayyy more efficient than spears. Granted its still not a smart strategy, but swords>spears in this scenario
This movie could have ended at the very first scene. They knew the enemy would be coming through that valley. All they had to do was ambush them with some flammable liquid in the valley and burned them all
But then you wouldn't have a two hour metaphor illustrating how Chinese obedience to order and use of technology is superior to, and the reason to expel a foreign influence
The blue squadron is the most beautiful and spectacular, yet, it is the most stupid one, the slowest to attack, the one that exposes the most the warrior to the enemy and the one with the shortest range weapon. A waste of resources.
A pair of reasons: First, the Crane corps as seen in the film well ill-used. They're meant to pick off the few that break through before they scale the wall. Being sent in with a line that thick was a panicked response when the long distance weapons didn't thin the herd enough. Second, the monsters will be distracted by people, but not by rocks. The goal of the Crane corp is for a single warrior to dive down, distract a beast trying to scale the wall, slay it, then pop back up beforehand. That many bloody rings should be the result of the full battle. That it was the first few minutes was the sign of incompetence
@@weizihangvery unnecessary .. i honestly don't understand the leader's war plan when they could have the soldiers in black be at the front since they have shields
So in this story they have black powder, they know the avenue of approach for those monsters, and they have 25 years in between raids. Wouldn't it be more wise to layer the entire valley with gun powder then fire those fiery balls on it once the army is one the powder field.
@@teume-nicoleyt It may be meant to show courage and self-sacrifice, but it actually just shows that the line between courage and stupidity is very thin... They jumping down the wall, give up the Highground and a fortified defense position contrary to all military tactics and their losses are in no reasonable proportion to the number of kills. If they let the girls also shoot arrows from the wall, they would kill more enemies and have fewer losses. If everyone in this army acted like the blue suicide bungee jumpers, the monsters would have won tomorrow...
This scene is what I constantly think of when I am playing Total War: Warhammer and I am trying to hold the Great Bastion of Cathay against the Chaos hordes that constantly attack lol.
They had the "black Powde"- basically dynamite, but they didn't use it to blow the enemy to pieces 😂 also if you had all the preparation time, why not get 100x more archers and more long distance Combat😂
"Couldn't we try constructing slits in the wall itself through which spears could be stabbed, thereby offering the wielders a greater chance at survival?" "...Nah, make their job ultra high risk by having them bungee down in the ranks of the monsters at the base of the wall."
Kind of unfair. The mongols were a brutal and cruel horde but they also had extremely good strategy and a technological advantage (the mounted archer)…
I found this movie very entertaining. Very unusual these days to see hundreds of extras in a film. I prefer monsters in my movies that we can meet on the battlefield and possibly defeat instead of slasher films or people creeping around dark houses or tunnels, etc..
The tactics are appalling but the visuals are magnificent. Although I saw it reviewed as the closest we'll get to an Orcs Must Die movie and I can't unsee it.
Thing is, the crane corp could have kinda been a decent strategy if they were simply meant to take out specific targets and sabotage the creatures climbing the walls. Instead they go straight to the ground lmao
I just love how every video on this battle everyone always says the Crane Corps is a terrible strategy. Not complaining, it is just funny how that is the majority of comments.
they lost most of the bible on the silk road and when the chinese merchants finally got home, they literally only had a scrap of paper including the verse saying to feed your enemies
all those formations and defenses but no ditch, they could just make a huge trench with spikes underneath, and perhaps any huge spike under the wall to stop them from blobing up
Ancient China before the falll ... Blue armored lady.... You lead me here .... Multiple color all united in protecting the wall...Somehow they do look like Elf.... The dragon 2:20 .... Color of his armor might not be coincidental.... Robb Stark: Next time I see you, you'll be all in black. Jon Snow: It was always my color. 3:39 That's a Birdman Armor ! Elf taking the fall 4:22 5:06 Leon XIII
A part of me likes to think that the reason they are so advanced is because they have been at constant war with these creatures that are more than human
Muchas gracias por compartir tan lindo video de una gran película de acción y suspenso 😊😊. Me encanta esta película con muy buenos efectos especiales, extraordinarias escenografías y talentosos actores como Matt Damon, Willem Dafoe y la bella Jing Tian.
Always fun to revisit a new issue of the movie we laugh at for its nonsense. 3 sets of scissors in the wall, 10x more ballista, flaming oil from the parapets. Enjoy ramen for dinner in your pajamas.
The disbelief is so far suspended just by the concept of this movie that I honestly don't care that they decide to jump over the wall with spears instead of just throwing them, we are beholden to the rule of cool at this point
-"Ok, we just filmed a scene were ancient non storically accurate chinese soldiers fights aliens from the ancient walls. There are cannons, catapults, razor shields and *sighs* whatever the fuck are the blue girls. You want to add anything else?" -"big drums" -"big... drums?" -"yes, but with nunchaku instead of sticks!" -"this is stupid" -"THIS IS EPIC"
If you look closely, everytime a member of the Crane Corps gets grabbed by a Tao Tei, several of the Tao Tei stop climbing the wall to eat. The purpose of the Crane Corps is to bait the Tao Tei so they don't climb the wall, get a few kills and die to ensure the Tao Tei are too busy eating to climb the wall. We also sometimes see a different weapon/strategy used against the Tao Tei in every fight because it's established that the Tao Tei are intelligent and will probably find a way to counter strategies used over and over again. Is the Crane Corps strategy effective from a pragmatic perspective? Yes. Are there better and more effective strategies? Also yes. Why do the wall soldiers still use the Crane Corps strategy despite having an endless number of alternatives? I don't know. That is the real question.
@@teume-nicoleyt What exactly does she contribute to this? Other than feeding the monsters? The few monsters she might kill are not worth the losses she suffers, and it doesn't help keep the monsters away from the wall. It may be meant to show courage and self-sacrifice, but it actually just shows that the line between courage and stupidity is very thin...
This was a fun movie, but overall a bad one 😅 Everything about the Crane Corps is dumb, the plot was shaky at best, yet I still liked it. The bow and cup scene is one of my favorites.
Yeesh, the Crane corps would have been more effective if they just stood at the end of their platforms and stabbed the monsters if they climbed the wall high enough. I honestly don't think I have ever met someone who has seen this scene and thought it was a good idea.
As much as the Crane Corps seems like an odd tactic to us, I do sort of see the idea behind it. Most of these soldiers are focused on long-range methods against the monsters, arrows and catapults and the like. But if the enemy is actually at your wall, climbing up it, then you need a method to drive them back before they reach you. Granted, I don't think tis particular way of doing that is all that great, but I at least understand why it's being done 🤔
@@ШонВу-я4ч Or better yet: oil or gunpowder. *Light'em up.* This is a war for the survival of humanity, right? Shit, bring all the resources from the entire empire!
Yeah, I'm sorry, but pouring Boiling Oil or lava would've been way more better. Historical or not (doesn't matter since this is a fantasy movie) it would've been more better than jumping off the wall and getting instakilled because they thought, “If I can at least get 2 kills, then this tactic will slow them down” Like, wtf was that tactic???
Fun fact: The military strategist who came up with the Blue corps idea, is the same one who was responsible for the military strategy in the battle of Winterfell against the white walkers! True story!
That explains so much......
Now it all makes sense
i am not surprise. Dumb white hollywood strategist.
Yea, like, who could think that picking out enemies one by one with a few dozens elite soldiers using expensive gear that takes heavy casualties in the very few minutes of the battle already won't be that efficient strategy when scaled up to a crowd of thousands such enemies? They simply didn't have such computation technology back in the mystical times!
@@soveyreemo3430 they missing common sense
“There goes our last female.” - Ice age Dodo bird.
These soldiers are hilariously inefficient. 1 Kill per spear with like a 50-70% death chance.
Meanwhile they could just THROW the spears for the same result...
They don't even have to throw the spears, they've got giant crossbows!
Itu adalah bagian drama nya yang membuat seru adegan film nya seakan kita masuk dalam pertempuran itu karena strategi yang tak logis
But I think it's awesome movie well managed. Dun care whatcha think buddy.
@@mrblurblur2003 and i dont care what YOU think, buddy. If you dont care about other opinions, dont post comments then :)
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Lol
Even the Americans are like “wtf is this type of strategy….?”
The Blue Corps were basically snacks for the monsters...........
aka suicide spearers😂
Their goes our last female
(Ice age Dodo scene) 😂
China has a huge population to provide human meat for the monsters.
Distraction, for other forces to recuperate before they climbed and overtook the wall.
Its the Empowered, Strong, Independent Crane Corps who doesn't need a man's money. 🤣
I forget : Did they ever address the stupidity of the crane corps strategy, or have one of the characters say "Hey, the blue ones should do *this* instead"?
As i remember, nope.
I think they had too many females, so they had to get rid off some of them, and this was the only humane heroic way!!!
They are a distractions to keep the monster off the wall
Honestly its not that stupid, it's just the weapon choice. Swords would be wayyy more efficient than spears. Granted its still not a smart strategy, but swords>spears in this scenario
@@oAquaa But a sword is shorter than a spear, it would make them a way more easy target.
"Throw the spear girls over the wall"
"Don't you mean have the girls throw spears over the wall?"
"..."
"..."
"And the blue, what are they doing?" Exactly.
This movie could have ended at the very first scene. They knew the enemy would be coming through that valley. All they had to do was ambush them with some flammable liquid in the valley and burned them all
Exactly yes!
But then you wouldn't have a two hour metaphor illustrating how Chinese obedience to order and use of technology is superior to, and the reason to expel a foreign influence
There ain't enough liquid for that many. The living will run across on a bridge of the dead.
Did you see how intelligent these creatures are?
My thoughts exactly..they had the strategic advantage. Or even make pit traps.
The blue squadron is the most beautiful and spectacular, yet, it is the most stupid one, the slowest to attack, the one that exposes the most the warrior to the enemy and the one with the shortest range weapon. A waste of resources.
the "cranes" were more badass on the drums with nanchucks than them bungee jumping only for most of them to die
And they were probably getting way more done.
the cranes seemed a very very inefficient use of resources.
@@scottmcshannon6821 I agree. They were not taking nearly enough of the creatures out to justify the losses.
Its the Empowered, Strong, Independent Crane Corps who doesn't need a man's money.
@@AntonioBlanco1993 you're such a fucking weirdo
Willem Dafoe at the end of this clip : *looks completely lost* "What the hell I am doing in this sh...tty movie ?"
...oh yea...laughing all the way to the bank.
Paying the bills, son
1:57 Look at this army. Have you ever seen such pretty colors? We got the ravenclaws, the Hufflepuffs, and of course the Gryffindors...
Now we just need slytherin
@@omegafan1374 who do you think they were killing lol
협곡에서 몰려오는 개들이 슬레데린이에요😂
@@jacobmorphies2116 lol 😆
@@Rosencraft huh?
- Mom, can we have Attack on titan ?
- We have Attack on titan at home
Attack on titan at home :
Both are average
Aot is a bit better though
4:19 matt damons face like oh my gosh I should have read the script. this could be the end of my carreer
1:02 lmao they've got giant crossbows yet they'd waste resources on poking the monsters with spears
I always assumed it was to stop them amassing at the foot of the wall but i feel like there would be more efficient ways to do that
they are called ballistae
They need to poke the eyes of the monsters, not just any part of the body.
@chinchang5117 ..and young girls flying down uncontrolled will be able to target the eyes better? lmao
This movie almost ended Matt Damons career. Barely had a job in 2017,2018 because of this blunder, made a comeback with Ford vs Ferrari.
Blue shirts are the new red shirts.
"Mom, I want a Final Fantasy dragoon."
"We have Final Fantasy dragoons at home."
Crane Corps: Final Fantasy dragoons at home.
They really look a lot like Kain. Just... inefficient, to put it mildly.
A pair of reasons:
First, the Crane corps as seen in the film well ill-used. They're meant to pick off the few that break through before they scale the wall. Being sent in with a line that thick was a panicked response when the long distance weapons didn't thin the herd enough.
Second, the monsters will be distracted by people, but not by rocks. The goal of the Crane corp is for a single warrior to dive down, distract a beast trying to scale the wall, slay it, then pop back up beforehand.
That many bloody rings should be the result of the full battle. That it was the first few minutes was the sign of incompetence
Well, at least the blue uniforms looked cool, but what a waste of some cute Chinese girls
I think it’s unnecessary too
@@weizihangvery unnecessary .. i honestly don't understand the leader's war plan when they could have the soldiers in black be at the front since they have shields
The blue army jumping was totally spoiling overage for this movie.not sure how the director thinking of this movie.
well it really shows how China treats their women !
@@Dino-pk5hc
Really?
And because of this a woman is a main commander?
if you don't understand what the movie try to express then don't talk too much
@@Dino-pk5hc well unknowledge,just because women is lighter than men,go watch original movie better
@@teume-nicoleyt if that is the case, they are STUPID for putting a GENERAL on the frontlines ! no matter how good SHE is ...
Liked the difference in the army colours.
But sacrificing the blue like that 😢
Blue is for delivering food.
Its the Empowered, Strong, Independent Crane Crops who doesn't need a man's money how dare you. 🤣
This movie was a bit cheesy, but very fun! I liked it!
Love all the color and pageantry as the troops assemble.
Followed by the stupid war strategies lol
So in this story they have black powder, they know the avenue of approach for those monsters, and they have 25 years in between raids. Wouldn't it be more wise to layer the entire valley with gun powder then fire those fiery balls on it once the army is one the powder field.
The Crane Corps SUICIDE RAMPS being lowered.
that's not suicide,that's sacrifice.Do you dare to sacrifice to killing those monsters just to protect a palace behind the great wall?
@@teume-nicoleyt It may be meant to show courage and self-sacrifice, but it actually just shows that the line between courage and stupidity is very thin...
They jumping down the wall, give up the Highground and a fortified defense position contrary to all military tactics and their losses are in no reasonable proportion to the number of kills. If they let the girls also shoot arrows from the wall, they would kill more enemies and have fewer losses. If everyone in this army acted like the blue suicide bungee jumpers, the monsters would have won tomorrow...
Its the Empowered, Strong, Independent Crane Crops who doesn't need a man's money how dare you. 🤣
@@AntonioBlanco1993i find it funny that it's a chinese movie and they have women as their highest death rate
@@thatsaber01 Didn't think about that. They've made up a tale on why they have a shortage of women 🤣
This scene is what I constantly think of when I am playing Total War: Warhammer and I am trying to hold the Great Bastion of Cathay against the Chaos hordes that constantly attack lol.
"NO CAPES!"
I wish Edna Mode were in this movie as a war counselor.
"aim for the eyes " as if they can be that precise from up there haha
They had the "black Powde"- basically dynamite, but they didn't use it to blow the enemy to pieces 😂 also if you had all the preparation time, why not get 100x more archers and more long distance Combat😂
The big balls at 3:20 are explosive
Best movie of the decade.
I swear people just post this video so we can deconstruct the stupidity 😂
Muuuch better sense of fashion than tactics in this army..
Btw what were the purple guys for?
They do not look badass, but goofy, especially the helmets.
DEI hires.
3:55 ok aim for the eyes 😂
"Couldn't we try constructing slits in the wall itself through which spears could be stabbed, thereby offering the wielders a greater chance at survival?"
"...Nah, make their job ultra high risk by having them bungee down in the ranks of the monsters at the base of the wall."
So, this is how chinese people described Mongols back then.
Kind of unfair. The mongols were a brutal and cruel horde but they also had extremely good strategy and a technological advantage (the mounted archer)…
Wait till they have Great Wall 2: the Dwarf Pirates
@@daniel_tenner
Ikr!
They also have some good siege machines & tactics as well.
Not whatever this wave-attacks BS. 😂
This was the worst. Aiming for the eyes with bow and arrow from half a mile away lol …
even a top sniper couldnt do it against charging monsters😂
It worked for the Elves!!
@@jasonatreides2542elves are mystical fantasy race that can live for a thousand years and have magic eyes
that's where the blue corps come in I assume
I found this movie very entertaining. Very unusual these days to see hundreds of extras in a film. I prefer monsters in my movies that we can meet on the battlefield and possibly defeat instead of slasher films or people creeping around dark houses or tunnels, etc..
In black, these are soldiers.
In red, these are archers.
And the women in bluе?
These are feminists.
I think The blue army with string is nonsense strategy
they are just preparing to die first on battlefields
Well....... They're not top 3 in world population for no reason, gotta put those MAN power to good use
actually the blue army contribute the most in this war
The tactics are appalling but the visuals are magnificent.
Although I saw it reviewed as the closest we'll get to an Orcs Must Die movie and I can't unsee it.
Dumbest battle tactic since Nigel the Stupid said "Lets run right up to them and cut our own throats. That'll show 'em!".
dumbest viewers
Thing is, the crane corp could have kinda been a decent strategy if they were simply meant to take out specific targets and sabotage the creatures climbing the walls. Instead they go straight to the ground lmao
I just love how every video on this battle everyone always says the Crane Corps is a terrible strategy. Not complaining, it is just funny how that is the majority of comments.
the costumes design is daaamn awesome
"Aim for the eyes!" Yeah right, as if they could even see their eyes at that distance.
Underrated movie. 🐸
Quick question why are they feeding pretty Chinese ladies to the monsters?
One child policy. No girls allowed.
they lost most of the bible on the silk road and when the chinese merchants finally got home, they literally only had a scrap of paper including the verse saying to feed your enemies
It's just stupid strategy. It looks cool but stupid really
"Tell your enemies to fight while providing food. Even if the person in charge wins, you must hold them accountable."
all those formations and defenses but no ditch, they could just make a huge trench with spikes underneath, and perhaps any huge spike under the wall to stop them from blobing up
Ancient China before the falll ... Blue armored lady.... You lead me here .... Multiple color all united in protecting the wall...Somehow they do look like Elf.... The dragon 2:20 .... Color of his armor might not be coincidental....
Robb Stark: Next time I see you, you'll be all in black. Jon Snow: It was always my color.
3:39 That's a Birdman Armor !
Elf taking the fall 4:22
5:06 Leon XIII
Cool to see Pedro Pascal
飛鎖攻擊大概是電影史上最扯的攻擊了
我愛景甜
Wah kangen ,ini film di tayangin di bandara minangkabau tahun 2019,gk kerasa😔
A part of me likes to think that the reason they are so advanced is because they have been at constant war with these creatures that are more than human
the cranes method of fighting has got to be the stupidest strategy I have even seen in a movie.
Muchas gracias por compartir tan lindo video de una gran película de acción y suspenso 😊😊. Me encanta esta película con muy buenos efectos especiales, extraordinarias escenografías y talentosos actores como Matt Damon, Willem Dafoe y la bella Jing Tian.
I’ve heard the movie was horrible, but I gotta admit I like the armor designs
Always fun to revisit a new issue of the movie we laugh at for its nonsense.
3 sets of scissors in the wall, 10x more ballista, flaming oil from the parapets.
Enjoy ramen for dinner in your pajamas.
The disbelief is so far suspended just by the concept of this movie that I honestly don't care that they decide to jump over the wall with spears instead of just throwing them, we are beholden to the rule of cool at this point
Imagine if the one pulling the ropes for the blue corps had their hands slipped
I wonder how our modern military personnel could hold against these green beasts 🤔
You know its bad if Generals are fighting 😂
Maybe I'll bring all those blue warriors home.
We only pick beatiful girls for the blue team. They make perfect snacks for monsters.And only the star that real matter has plot armor.
Niye kısa kısa verıyorlar ki yutup eski gucunde degil
"Look at this army. They look goofy as hell"
Best strategy during an flood is to run...
Fantastic 💪💪💪💪
Great movie
Kitty wants to know if this movie is based on real events? Meow.
-"Ok, we just filmed a scene were ancient non storically accurate chinese soldiers fights aliens from the ancient walls. There are cannons, catapults, razor shields and *sighs* whatever the fuck are the blue girls. You want to add anything else?"
-"big drums"
-"big... drums?"
-"yes, but with nunchaku instead of sticks!"
-"this is stupid"
-"THIS IS EPIC"
Honestly the best parts in this "battle" are where these Power rangers got eaten.
I enjoyed the movie.
If you look closely, everytime a member of the Crane Corps gets grabbed by a Tao Tei, several of the Tao Tei stop climbing the wall to eat. The purpose of the Crane Corps is to bait the Tao Tei so they don't climb the wall, get a few kills and die to ensure the Tao Tei are too busy eating to climb the wall. We also sometimes see a different weapon/strategy used against the Tao Tei in every fight because it's established that the Tao Tei are intelligent and will probably find a way to counter strategies used over and over again. Is the Crane Corps strategy effective from a pragmatic perspective? Yes. Are there better and more effective strategies? Also yes. Why do the wall soldiers still use the Crane Corps strategy despite having an endless number of alternatives? I don't know. That is the real question.
I get it... They need blue squads to do something to bait them to prevent all of them climbing the walls at once but still😢
I dont understand about the Cranes Corps😂😂
ya then feel sad for you cuz blue army contribute the most
@@teume-nicoleyt What exactly does she contribute to this? Other than feeding the monsters? The few monsters she might kill are not worth the losses she suffers, and it doesn't help keep the monsters away from the wall. It may be meant to show courage and self-sacrifice, but it actually just shows that the line between courage and stupidity is very thin...
@@inkognito1534i always looked at it as to keep them busy so the archers could keep on firing a few moments longer.
I don’t think setting the massive rocks on fire before shooting them makes them more effective 😂
Woooooooooooow💕💕💕💕 amazing😍🤩 opening scenes ❤💕❤💕❤
Обожаю этот фильм.браво создателям и актерам.спасибо😊😊
Always good to come back to this clip and laugh at how they waste their best warriors.
If this is the case, we got nothing to fear from the Chinese army. Cake walk.
❤ Mega Extraordinary 😊 Magnificent Beautiful 😊
How they load the catapult if the „spoon” faces the wall? So basically they cannot be loaded in depicted way
This was a fun movie, but overall a bad one 😅
Everything about the Crane Corps is dumb, the plot was shaky at best, yet I still liked it.
The bow and cup scene is one of my favorites.
the crane corps is not dumb ok?the dump is you,cuz you can't even understand what the movie try to convey about
the epitome of unappealing creature concept design.
All these comments rightfully dunking on the crane corps.
Next can you please put fast and furious 9 4K clip’s please
Imagine this army fighting against the Uruk-Hai. Their work would be finished before they could approach the walls.
You right
Fantastischer Film ❤❤❤
No wonder Matt's son said this movie sucks
ya cuz they dumb
Yeesh, the Crane corps would have been more effective if they just stood at the end of their platforms and stabbed the monsters if they climbed the wall high enough. I honestly don't think I have ever met someone who has seen this scene and thought it was a good idea.
As much as the Crane Corps seems like an odd tactic to us, I do sort of see the idea behind it. Most of these soldiers are focused on long-range methods against the monsters, arrows and catapults and the like. But if the enemy is actually at your wall, climbing up it, then you need a method to drive them back before they reach you. Granted, I don't think tis particular way of doing that is all that great, but I at least understand why it's being done 🤔
Bruh just throw rocks, at climbing animals
@@ШонВу-я4ч Or better yet: oil or gunpowder. *Light'em up.*
This is a war for the survival of humanity, right? Shit, bring all the resources from the entire empire!
throw the fcing spear...jesus
Like the historian guy who are used to reviewing these kinds of historical movies ill state it here.
WHERE ARE YOUR DITCHES?
Grand Cathay fending off Chaos beasts.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but pouring Boiling Oil or lava would've been way more better. Historical or not (doesn't matter since this is a fantasy movie) it would've been more better than jumping off the wall and getting instakilled because they thought, “If I can at least get 2 kills, then this tactic will slow them down”
Like, wtf was that tactic???
They look like people from any Asian MMORPG