The CV90 is made to defend, provide and to attack, over the last decades. So you are definitely right. None of the "competitors" can handle terrain like it can do.
@@juryfilatov4520 Most powerful weapons and the worst optronics which severely limit the use of these weapons. Gun is no good when you can't see the target, or better, if the target saw you sooner and killed you before you noticed anything. Russian thermals are 20+ years behind the west. The T-90M literally uses French THALES Catherine FC thermal imagers imported before the war.
Except not a single export customer has chosen the 40 mm version. 40 mm Bofors is a pretty shitty armament for IFV. Needs to be manually reloaded in 7 round clips, only 3 x 7 rounds ready to fire at the gun. A Puma has 200 round sof 30 mm ready to firte at the gun, completely separated from the crew in case of detonation.
Wow, some of the best IFV's are not on this list. The Borsuk (Polish), the Namer (Israeli), and the Guarani (Brazilian). The Borsuk is the best designed IFV to use for waterborne assaults, the Namer has the best armor and defense, and the Guarani is cheap while being very versatile and has many different variants that can easily be changed out. I would take any one of those over the BMP-3 on this list.
The vehicles you’ve listed are better in a strategic case because of their amphibious capabilities or low cost. I agree that in overall usefulness a couple of your choices should’ve been used but the video doesn’t consider all aspects of fighting
The Guarani is an APC in its original configuration (VBTB).....but many versions have modular armor, and a much bigger weapon....and they are considered IFV's (VBCI, and VBC MR).@@avengedstevenfoldA7X
Right from what I started to understand on the last three vehicles, he was going by the amount of protection they provide? He didn’t even mention the weapons on the second vehicle… it also sounded like he didn’t have that much information about it. It sounded like not much, is known about the vehicle like it’s some kind of prototype shit I like the T 14 Armata in that case it should not be allowed to be on the list…. If it does not have a reasonable amount of them produced/ no combat/ has not been purchased by a different country besides its home country it should not be allowed on the list
Dünyada en çok çeşit IFV üreten Türkiye'den tek bir araç yok. Diğer ülkelerin ellerinde ne varsa listede. Ancak bütün ihaleleri Türkiye kazanıyor. Daha iyi araştırıp liste yapın...
Possible yes, necessary, no. IFVs main purpose is to fight Infantry so the main armaments is usally optimized against dismounted targets. If they run into MBTs they have ATGMs.
BMP 3 shouldn't be on this list, everything ranked worse has both a commander and Gunnar thermal site and meanwhile The BMP 3 I'm pretty sure doesn't have any Thermals, maybe an BMP-3M or something but that's not what's listed...
Are you kidding me. It's funny that Kurganets 25, which didn't mass-produce and didn't have a real deployment, even though the BMP3 that exploded excited in Ukraine, is it funny that it makes sense that the No. 1 is only Puma IFV, which is expensive because it's full of flaws? Currently, CV90 ranks first in all of the mass production, variations, export, performance, and actual evaluation.
Funny. The CV90 not meeting requirements is one of the reasons the Puma exists in the first place. The German Army trialed the CV90 in 2002, rejecting it because it didn't meet the required ballistic and mine protection aswell as growth requirements. They concluded there was no IFV on the market at that time that would meet their requirements, so they had to develop one on their own, the Puma.
@@bangdoll4500 The Netherlands never trialed the Puma. They decided for the CV90 solely for the fact that the CV90 was avaliable with a 35 mm autocannon, and the developers of the Puma were going for a 30 mm. The dutch wanting a 35 mm gun was based on the odd requirement to destroy all optics of a T-80U MBT in a single 3 round salvo. For that exact purpose Rheinmetall developed a version of the 35 mm AHEAD airburst round with more, but smaller tungsten subprojectiles than the 35 mm AHEAD used before (407 x 1.24 g instead of 152 x 3.3 g). However in later testing just 2 normal 152 x 3.3 g pellet AHEAD rounds managed to do just the same. Pumas armament on the other hand was optimized for the anti-infantry role, chosing the 30 mm over the 35 mm to double the amount of ready ammunition. (A CV9035 has a total of 203 rounds of 35 mm stored, a Puma has 400 rounds of 30 mm, of which 200 are ready to fire). Puma was also confirmed to outperform all other contenders in every metric in the czech trials, but in the end it was deemed too expensive. It was probably the same for the Netherlands, since implementing a 35 mm on the Puma would've been an easy task.
@@jonny2954 I agree that the puma is generally better than the CV90 with protection for their crew, but becuase of that its weight is also increased greatly which brings us up to mobility that is the greatest strenght of a IFV. CV90 outshines basicly all opponents in that area.
AFV stands for armored fighting vehicle and means basically any armored military vehicle including MBTs, IFVs and APCs. IFV stands for infantry fighting vehicle a class of vehicle armed with a medium caliber autocannon and a dismount compartment in the back.
@John Grigg M113s are fighting in the Ukrainian war. And in the Gulf War there were BMP-1 and BMP-2. And if you shoot Bradley with an ATGM, then he is unlikely to remain intact. So don't bullshit. NATO weapons have never taken part in a real war.
the AS-21 Redback is better than the K21, is better armoured, has a much better turret, same engine and drivetrain as the K9 thunder, can mount EOS R400S Mk2 HD or R150 remote weapon system, Javelins and two spike LR2 and Iron Fist APS by Elbit systems it comes in at 42 tons compared to 25.6t
As an American I think the CV90 is still on top. The Germans build great weapons but I still think the CV90 edges everyone out.
A Rooskie with a shovel and an RPG would like a word
The CV90 is made to defend, provide and to attack, over the last decades. So you are definitely right. None of the "competitors" can handle terrain like it can do.
Nah, I think the Bradley it's the best
@@JLNLindbom Ooh, I think the 100mm BMP3 gun doesn’t think so. The BMP-3 definitely has the most powerful weapons
@@juryfilatov4520 Most powerful weapons and the worst optronics which severely limit the use of these weapons. Gun is no good when you can't see the target, or better, if the target saw you sooner and killed you before you noticed anything.
Russian thermals are 20+ years behind the west. The T-90M literally uses French THALES Catherine FC thermal imagers imported before the war.
CV90 with that bigass 40mm cannon is on a league of its own
has some major drawbacks oder disadvanteges towards the puma for example tho
Except not a single export customer has chosen the 40 mm version.
40 mm Bofors is a pretty shitty armament for IFV. Needs to be manually reloaded in 7 round clips, only 3 x 7 rounds ready to fire at the gun. A Puma has 200 round sof 30 mm ready to firte at the gun, completely separated from the crew in case of detonation.
where is redback?
Amazing video. Tks for your job
😮awesome ❤it
Puma has only one drawback - it constantly breaks down.
You from Germany?
Propably maintainance issues
how many of those seen any real fight?
BMP1,BMP2,BMP3,Bradley, Namer
@@ChandranPrema123 CV90
@@ChandranPrema123 The win/loss ratio would be more interesting in a Top 10 then followed by training.
@@ChandranPrema123 bmp2 and bmp3 is target practice for Nato troops.
@@boejiden7093 Especially without the crew inside. Parked up & abandoned a great day out.
Puma is like a MG42 tank version.
As there are neither piranhas nor many fishes in Switzerland,the PIRANHA is inappropriately named.
The man is right.
No fish in the mountains but plenty of Pumas in the german woods. They really are a pest.
@@simonsays5153 Yes and all those leopards in the german woods 😂
Where is BORSUK ?
Jest za dobry żeby znaleźć się na tej liście 😅
i love how for the cv90 when they talk abt the 40mm gun its a cv9030
The Bradley is a nice tiny LEGO-like thing.
where is AS-21
Wow, some of the best IFV's are not on this list. The Borsuk (Polish), the Namer (Israeli), and the Guarani (Brazilian). The Borsuk is the best designed IFV to use for waterborne assaults, the Namer has the best armor and defense, and the Guarani is cheap while being very versatile and has many different variants that can easily be changed out. I would take any one of those over the BMP-3 on this list.
Except we’re talking about tactical edge and not strategic advantage here
please explain how the BMP 3 has a tactical edge over the Borsuk, Namer, or Guarani? @@avengedstevenfoldA7X
The vehicles you’ve listed are better in a strategic case because of their amphibious capabilities or low cost. I agree that in overall usefulness a couple of your choices should’ve been used but the video doesn’t consider all aspects of fighting
Also I hope you’re aware that the Guarani is an APC.
The Guarani is an APC in its original configuration (VBTB).....but many versions have modular armor, and a much bigger weapon....and they are considered IFV's (VBCI, and VBC MR).@@avengedstevenfoldA7X
Ranking of IFV vehicles! But not a word about how many soldiers the vehicle can carry😂
Right from what I started to understand on the last three vehicles, he was going by the amount of protection they provide? He didn’t even mention the weapons on the second vehicle… it also sounded like he didn’t have that much information about it. It sounded like not much, is known about the vehicle like it’s some kind of prototype shit I like the T 14 Armata in that case it should not be allowed to be on the list…. If it does not have a reasonable amount of them produced/ no combat/ has not been purchased by a different country besides its home country it should not be allowed on the list
Puma and CV90
Dünyada en çok çeşit IFV üreten Türkiye'den tek bir araç yok. Diğer ülkelerin ellerinde ne varsa listede. Ancak bütün ihaleleri Türkiye kazanıyor. Daha iyi araştırıp liste yapın...
The cv90 is the best in my opinion
I'm so proud my country (the Netherlands) owns cv90's (CV9035NL)
No information on the weapons for number two?
Rather have 10 prooven epic working cv90 then 10 non working puma.
We had 9 Dutch CV90 simultaneously out of order in Bergen Hoene in 2019. Their media just doesen't circlejerk over it.
@@jonny2954 yea, media likes to focus on bad parts of certain things only, even if something similar does just as bad in the same category
How can piranha include in this category?piranha is apc..
Redback IFV
Any IFV has a canon that can penetrate the armor of the MBT ? Or is just not possible technically?
Possible yes, necessary, no. IFVs main purpose is to fight Infantry so the main armaments is usally optimized against dismounted targets. If they run into MBTs they have ATGMs.
BMP 3 shouldn't be on this list, everything ranked worse has both a commander and Gunnar thermal site and meanwhile The BMP 3 I'm pretty sure doesn't have any Thermals, maybe an BMP-3M or something but that's not what's listed...
BMP3 but no LAV-25???
Any update about Puma??
Best Lynx ever
I’m not one of these vehicles did they state how many people it takes to operate or how many infantry can carry?
Piranha 5 and and cv90 ifv 💪💯❤️🇵🇭
Wheres polish Badger?
Are you kidding me.
It's funny that Kurganets 25, which didn't mass-produce and didn't have a real deployment, even though the BMP3 that exploded excited in Ukraine, is it funny that it makes sense that the No. 1 is only Puma IFV, which is expensive because it's full of flaws?
Currently, CV90 ranks first in all of the mass production, variations, export, performance, and actual evaluation.
Funny. The CV90 not meeting requirements is one of the reasons the Puma exists in the first place. The German Army trialed the CV90 in 2002, rejecting it because it didn't meet the required ballistic and mine protection aswell as growth requirements. They concluded there was no IFV on the market at that time that would meet their requirements, so they had to develop one on their own, the Puma.
@@jonny2954 And, Puma IFV lost to CV90 in the Netherlands.
@@bangdoll4500 The Netherlands never trialed the Puma. They decided for the CV90 solely for the fact that the CV90 was avaliable with a 35 mm autocannon, and the developers of the Puma were going for a 30 mm. The dutch wanting a 35 mm gun was based on the odd requirement to destroy all optics of a T-80U MBT in a single 3 round salvo. For that exact purpose Rheinmetall developed a version of the 35 mm AHEAD airburst round with more, but smaller tungsten subprojectiles than the 35 mm AHEAD used before (407 x 1.24 g instead of 152 x 3.3 g). However in later testing just 2 normal 152 x 3.3 g pellet AHEAD rounds managed to do just the same.
Pumas armament on the other hand was optimized for the anti-infantry role, chosing the 30 mm over the 35 mm to double the amount of ready ammunition. (A CV9035 has a total of 203 rounds of 35 mm stored, a Puma has 400 rounds of 30 mm, of which 200 are ready to fire). Puma was also confirmed to outperform all other contenders in every metric in the czech trials, but in the end it was deemed too expensive. It was probably the same for the Netherlands, since implementing a 35 mm on the Puma would've been an easy task.
@@jonny2954 I agree that the puma is generally better than the CV90 with protection for their crew, but becuase of that its weight is also increased greatly which brings us up to mobility that is the greatest strenght of a IFV. CV90 outshines basicly all opponents in that area.
@@johanbergman2343 Latest CV90MkIV also go up to 37 tonnes.
Type-89 always my favourite
What is the difference between AFV and IFV
AFV stands for armored fighting vehicle and means basically any armored military vehicle including MBTs, IFVs and APCs. IFV stands for infantry fighting vehicle a class of vehicle armed with a medium caliber autocannon and a dismount compartment in the back.
Where is the Russian T-15 and the Israeli Namer!?...
BMP-3…Really??? 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 me too laughing in tears
right, NATO equipment is always the best ... until it's used in real combat
yes its good.
@John Grigg ummm exactly...
@John Grigg M113s are fighting in the Ukrainian war. And in the Gulf War there were BMP-1 and BMP-2. And if you shoot Bradley with an ATGM, then he is unlikely to remain intact. So don't bullshit. NATO weapons have never taken part in a real war.
_"Watch my dust!"_
Wheres the bmp
Where is Borsuk, Redback, Boxer 8x8 and Patria ?
If there's K-2140 and KF-41, AS-2130 should also be included. BMP-3, really???
The EBRC Jaguar, doesn't have a place on this list? I think it is more efficient and more modern than at least half of these top. 🤣
Except it isn't a IFV. It's a reconnaissance vehicle.
EBRC translates to Armored Reconnaissance and Combat Vehicle, so not an IFV.
They are really armed & armoured personnel carriers,as some have never fought.
the AS-21 Redback is better than the K21, is better armoured, has a much better turret, same engine and drivetrain as the K9 thunder, can mount EOS R400S Mk2 HD or R150 remote weapon system, Javelins and two spike LR2 and Iron Fist APS by Elbit systems
it comes in at 42 tons compared to 25.6t
Kreiger Walks
Bartholome Walks
Name Trail
number one the puma ifv lmfao
6492 Tyrese Mount
Dan Extension
Ok BMP-3😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Armstrong Street
Rollin Gardens
Mallory Stravenue
Melyna Ridge
Langosh Radial
Bashirian Stravenue
am I alone who missed there boxer?
Elyssa Prairie
Stehr Green
Spinka Circles
Bradley? ...really???
Bradley's suck
This didn't age well 😂🇺🇸🦅💪🏼
@@Billybutchercunt9 i don't think you know what that term means
@@mat_j you said that like the Bradley didn't smoke a t90m and isn't that best ifv around
@@Billybutchercunt9 in video game...
Jacobson Shore
Savanna Dale
Howe Turnpike
Domenick Burg
Kay Lock
Howell Lake
ukrainans are saying that borsuk is very good
Elvie Burgs
I like the BMD-3
Ofelia Circles
Just get a upgraded CV 90 Problem solved. and a Panther KF51 as main tank , Nothing stronger in the world. if you go with that.
Leonel Wells
Oberbrunner Ramp
Hartmann Inlet
Skyla Flats
2806 Lilyan Course
Puma 17 Millionen Bradley 2 3,5 mio
Nicola Stravenue
422 Wehner Roads
Genoveva Cliff
Odessa Knolls
Elta Park
Jamison Extension
As ex sappy this is all bull. Best if v is 1960s Bedford 4 tonner,with slr armed troops
Bernard Green
Schuster Street
How did the bradly not end up on this list
Kemmer Crescent
Rudolph Mill
VURAN 120mm
King Squares
Parker Common
Paula Brooks
Пума леопард это немецкий зоопарк
Raymundo Island
Gutmann Skyway
Auer Springs
Darren Heights
Daniel Wall