Vinyl Me, Please is in Trouble? What should we (customers) do?

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  • @TemujinScott80
    @TemujinScott80 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Sounds like VMP is making sure they keep their integrity and are getting rid of the bad apples and re-structuring. I’m always impressed with the quality of their vinyl

    • @RequiemsArchitect
      @RequiemsArchitect 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same! I've never had an issues, thank God, with any of my ROTM's.

  • @kmad5853
    @kmad5853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for being a voice of reason on this. Everyone else has been doom and gloom and assuming the worst. Can everyone just wait and see if anything changes?

  • @Souldisco
    @Souldisco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the video, i don't think they will go out of business. In the past, they did a great job. Canceled my subscription because i was not happy with the titles. But for sure they released some great records.

    • @xentakis
      @xentakis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nadine, you didn’t stick around at least to get the Don Blackman record?

  • @JoseReyes-hy6rd
    @JoseReyes-hy6rd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not a subscriber but bought some records a couple of months ago during a recent sale. Finally got around to listening to them and a couple records had warps and skips. Opened a supoort request last week and today I got tracking number for replacements. I assume it wouldn’t have been that easy for a company that was in worse shape. So my recent customer service experience was positive

  • @Audiojunkabus
    @Audiojunkabus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing all your insights! Your detailed perspective is amazing-truly, there's no substitute for experience, which seems unmatched here. I really appreciate it and have been a big fan of VMP so far. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for the Impulse Box set that I ordered right when it was released. I feel like a credit of some kind is in order, considering I paid in full and the expected arrival date keeps getting pushed back. I don’t anticipate rejoining unless they offer another promo close to or similar to a 12-month subscription plus 8 free records/selections.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I ordered the impulse on accouncement day as well. I think there will be some kind of compensation for that.

  • @Peoria19581
    @Peoria19581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Support the growing pains of the vinyl resurgence. Another TH-camr just blasted VMP (over quality issues) and announced his cancelation which seemed very odd to me as he had applauded of the pressings and box sets in the past. Gary Salstrom from QRP (Acoustic Sounds) left AS and now is with VMP (the new pressing plant actually). Weed through the business smokescreen, its obvious VMP is being blasted because the competition (AS) is angry their top employee left them and will take some business with him. I'm still a VMP member. Thank you for the update

  • @jodygoeler586
    @jodygoeler586 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much for this segment. I’m sticking with vmp and keeping my membership. I agree with every point you’ve made, so I won’t repeat them. Just thank you!

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching!

  • @Peoria19581
    @Peoria19581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Totally agree with all your points. In addition, instead of "Buy now or cry later" (FOMO) t-shirts from AS, VMP new line of small run high end art prints (such as John Coltrane). Blue Note records does the same thing, framed limited art.

  • @jimmccloskey4254
    @jimmccloskey4254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The companies mentioned where you can get these records at reduced pricing, each month they have specials, same for each quarter and end of year. Most are to clear inventory. I have purchase 20 - 50 per season.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I’m starting to see the cycles and sales seasons. All good to me quality vinyl for cheap!

  • @austinhunt4260
    @austinhunt4260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never needed a record from them, but I am grateful they exist and I support them (if only morally, this far). Thanks for the news.

  • @cchach
    @cchach 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been with VMP since 2017 and currently have 4 tracks. I also have purchased at least 1/2 of the Anthologies and several store exclusives.
    The pressing quality has decreased substantially in the past 3 years. I return about 1/4 each month for extreme warps. Several others I have to flatten.
    With that said the presentation and audio quality of most releases have been fantastic.
    I also loathe colored vinyl but overall the stuff they produce is pretty nice.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have had to get replacements too. But I have also had issues with older old out of print stuff. I had to get two of the BS paranoid on the second hand - but it’s hit or miss. I will say all of rotms this year have been fine.

    • @cchach
      @cchach 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PiecesofVinyl yea and it’s really pressing plant dependent. They are very good about replacing.

  • @booieaguilar4792
    @booieaguilar4792 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love VMP, although I don't have a subscription I get certain pressings from them. I'm the only person in my household that works so down the road I'd love a subscription if their still open. And I hope you still get a chance to tour that pressings plant, that way we can finally meet lol. I was curious what your thoughts on this were, but now I know. Much love to you brotha man

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yo - the Tears of Sorrow vol 2 just came in and OMG. 😳 I think….i found a copy of vol. 1 for retail as well. Stay tuned!

    • @booieaguilar4792
      @booieaguilar4792 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PiecesofVinyl it's a F@☆♤!n hell of a compilation brotha man, I knew you'd appreciate it. I've even been streaming it while I'm at work. You'll love vol. 1 also, and I hope you found the colored varient of it. I'd love to hear a video from you about this series also🤞 I hope you do. Also you can get ahold of the creator of shades of sorrow on the website. He gets back to you super quick, a conversation with you and him talking about Shades Of Sorrow would be hell a tight.

  • @thomasmandeno2776
    @thomasmandeno2776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well said man. I have absolutely loved my first years subscription with VMP. I have got so much more out of the service than I ever thought. I would feel very sad if something happened to the company. Some people complain no matter the circumstances. It’s pathetic.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What stuff do you get from them?

    • @thomasmandeno2776
      @thomasmandeno2776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just hip-hop really. I have purchased quite a bit over the last year and have never been disappointed. Living in Australia, the free shipping is a major bonus

  • @stevelanemusic4463
    @stevelanemusic4463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WOW, Wow, wow... Thanks for the info..!!

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VMP puts out good stuff. Sometimes I don't like the titles but then I do a swap. The one thing that really bugs me is when you pre-order a box set, they charge your credit card within seconds even if the box doesn't come out for months.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That could be improved I agree.

  • @dank.6942
    @dank.6942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was with them for nearly 4 years. I like them generally. I just cancelled prior to May 1. I think the album quality has diminished, in terms of the caliber of artists and the significance of the records. They clearly can't license many "hit" records that are less than 40 years old. I exhausted the swaps system eventually and my decision point came when I took store credit 2 out of 3 times, and before re-upping in May, I looked at all 5 tracks, for 3 months, and couldn't find one record in 15, that I wanted, and I didn't care to go on accumulating store credit with nothing coming down the pike.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not enjoying the selections is totally understandable - I think they should get more indie stuff but also vinyl is just super popular right now so it might be hard to get access to certain things.

  • @gorgom1025
    @gorgom1025 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for being a voice of reason during this whole debacle. Some people overreact to the slightest hint of negative press (no pun intended), without stopping to think about the reality of the situation. Yes, the CEO and and his fellow C-suite pals fucked up, but that’s why there’s a board of directors. And the BoD swooped in before this was ever going to affect VMP’s business.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

    • @VinylRundown
      @VinylRundown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe they swooped a little late. they didn't see any of the marketing material and press coverage of the "our new pressing plant"? that they never owned or controlled.

    • @xentakis
      @xentakis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but it also sounds like the Board was not paying enough attention. Not sure how they did not notice all of this sooner.

    • @VinylRundown
      @VinylRundown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xentakis The complaint mentions that after two years the plants still couldn't even press records on time. Does that mean they got mad only after the plant failed? if the plant was a success they wouldn't have cared much?

    • @xentakis
      @xentakis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinylRundown Good questions - based on what I’ve seen, it seems like there are more than a few unanswered questions in that complaint, including yours. It also appears there was a 4-3 board vote on a resolution to authorize *something* related to the plant, but it’s unclear what exactly that authorized, and why the CEO (who seems to have had a clear conflict of interest) cast the deciding vote.

  • @Drexlspivey78
    @Drexlspivey78 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been a member for 3 years and will continue to renew another year next month. Quality is why. Always quality pressings. I’ve definitely skipped months and taken the credit but before I had to renew, I always use the credit to get something I really wanted so I end up with 12 records (at least) a year, that I really want. Most of the time its releases Ive been trying to find VG+ or M copies of but they’re $100+ if I even find them. Their box set are fucking gold too. I have Willie Nelson, Waylon, and Whitney Houston first album. All are beautiful.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They blew me away with the Vanguard box - I am not a folk person at all but that is really nice and now I like a lot of Folk stuff. And that box is relatively cheap too.

  • @philipbolton7265
    @philipbolton7265 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent summary. thank you. I've about 15 VMP records and every one is the highest quality.

  • @kevintrjohnson
    @kevintrjohnson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was given a 15 dollar credit when I inquired for the second month in a row about the Cowboy Bebop pre-orders. They didn't say anything about the reason for the delay, let alone that it had anything to do with the pressing plant.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That might be involved here. I think some of the Latin titles I have are delayed for this reason.

  • @wryght
    @wryght หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to call in and talk to a real person but cannot find a phone number listed for them. I ordered Fraction - Moon Blood from them a month ago and it hasn't shipped yet, but other color variants offered by others have already made it to my address. Am worried I may never get the VMP version.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got it too. I tried finding the original email when it came out but I thought it said it was coming in Aug. it could have been July. Which would have been around the same as the rest. I also got one from RidingEasy - I think all of VMPs exclusives and anthologies are the ones affected by the plant issue and the rotms were already in line. So now they are in the back of the line in some of these plants. Total speculation!

    • @wryght
      @wryght หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PiecesofVinyl Well I hope you're right. I actually got a copy of each of the variants, including the boxset, and am only waiting for the VMP version now. Cheers!

  • @wgb113
    @wgb113 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You buy records for the music?!? Crazy talk man! JK…good video, VMP will be fine now that they tossed the shady ELT.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what is saying - "The two things that really drew me to vinyl
      were the expense and the inconvenience."

    • @wgb113
      @wgb113 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PiecesofVinyl precisely! 😝

  • @6AM_YT
    @6AM_YT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it narcissistic to think that some of this is directed at me? 🤔 More than likely... no one watches my crappy videos. There is a lot for me to respond to here, but I'm going to skip all that and go for the one thing I find the most strange/interesting; the pressing plant. The pressing plant situation doesn't make sense. Is it still opening? Who owns (owned?) it? Why is it called VMP if it has nothing to do with the other VMP? Did I (and I assume everyone else) misread all the literature regarding it as it claiming it was the VMP exclusive pressing plant?

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I watch your videos (and enjoy them!) But it wasn't directed at you per say....you may have been in the collective of "people are saying" - that all said - You are correct about the pressing plant and its "limbo" status - from what I have gathered - it is NOT part of Vinyl Me Please - and it being named Vinyl Media Pressing....or VMP - is indeed part of this lawsuit. The media/marketing that was created may also be a part of this in regards to how it was presented or misrepresented to the public/customers. We will have to see how it all plays out in court - im sure each side has their own version. If the physical plant continues - it will NOT be called Vinyl Media Pressing and it will not be part of Vinyl Me Please.

    • @6AM_YT
      @6AM_YT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PiecesofVinyl I was hoping that the new planet meant that they would stop pressing at GZ but I guess there's no end in sight for that. I hope it gets settled quickly. A long legal battle is only good for lawyers. I hope they stick around and I hope they give me reason to do another year membership. Like I think I said in one of my VMP videos, I think they provide an important service. I just wish they did something differently and I wish they pressed more records I actually wanted.

  • @SiloSoundStudios
    @SiloSoundStudios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, the people left running the company are not interested in running a pressing plant? Sounds like bad news for the plant in Denver.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah! It sucks to think there is a pressing plant somewhere just sitting there. I hope it gets up and running on its own - or gets bought out from someone.

  • @nelsonarblaster
    @nelsonarblaster 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve never bought an album from VMP. I have no first hand experience but my perception has always been they are a company that capitalized on the color variant “exclusive” train. They seem more interested in aesthetics. Acoustic Sounds seems the opposite. Again, this is perception. But if I have this perception then probably thousands of others do as well.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do color variants for some stuff. But even with those they try to still provide good audio. Color don’t take away from quality if the mastering is still good.

  • @philipketchum1407
    @philipketchum1407 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more TH-cam I watch regarding vinyl the more I’m glad I didn’t fall down that rabbit hole. Too expensive, complicated and filled with drama

  • @jimmccloskey4254
    @jimmccloskey4254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Micheal45 has gone OG because he compared about 25 or more OGs and new pressings only to have many chuckle at each comparison when he admitted to the OGs being better. It became a challenge for him to continue in a similar manner. I use to on the comments keep a running score, nearly 18 OGs to 3 or 4 new.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The OGs might be better from a pure sonic standpoint - but - if you want all the originals and extras and everything in mint a lot of time it’s really hard to find or really expensive or both.

    • @patook6000
      @patook6000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Micheal45 lost all his credibility with me when he did a shootout of Elvis Costello Get Happy UK OG vs MoFi double 45RPM set. He said he preferred the original! I have both and you have to be deaf to not notice the improved dynamics, transients and extended bass range of the MoFi vs the 10 songs crammed per side of the UK version. There’s a LOT of snake oil in this debate between OG vs reissue, I’ve heard some pretty bad OG as well as audiophile reissues…as always the source used and who and how it’s mastered and cut makes the whole difference.

  • @wallyallgood
    @wallyallgood 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    45 has become the most cringe member of the VC in the game! Now that he has a business selling originals (OBC), why would he promote reissues, other than Acoustic Sounds reissues which he also sells.
    This whole “look at me I can afford multi hundred dollar originals on my multi thousand dollar system,” is so out of touch and probably a big part of why much of the VC doesn’t speak very positively of him.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s a good guy. It is nice to show the access of some of the rare pressings - but the rest of us need to listen to something - and make rent!

  • @CJNooberson
    @CJNooberson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the rundown, dude!

  • @mpw116
    @mpw116 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man. Agree with everything you’ve said. It’s clear that you read a lot of the back and forth on discord.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Discord can get wild!

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Got a feeling a lot of the vinyl industry is going to feel some pain pretty soon.

    • @EddieJazzFan
      @EddieJazzFan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, and not just the vinyl industry, but a lot of the economy, I hope not though..

  • @davidpetersen7091
    @davidpetersen7091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good discussion.
    Mr. Pete------>

  • @kegwfu
    @kegwfu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whomever is doing customer service for Blue Note is the worst. It makes me want to never order from them again. However, VMP has always been responsive when I have an issue

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I completely agree!

  • @aa5az423
    @aa5az423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully, time heals all wounds.

  • @onyx550
    @onyx550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question about Vinyl me please they are in my home state and have electronic music just wanted to know if I can get records from them if I have an account other than the five they have to start with?

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have a very large inventory and you can purchase anything from it at anytime. If you sign up for the service you choose one of the four tracks and each month they send you a new record. But you can even “swap” those out for something else they have if you don’t like that pick.

    • @onyx550
      @onyx550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So if I pick rock and then can I swap for electronic music?

  • @thomasmandeno2776
    @thomasmandeno2776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had made the comment to Michael previously that it was absolutely absurd to belong to all 5 tracks. I guess if you can afford it…otherwise this seems very over indulgent

  • @beachcomber3036
    @beachcomber3036 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SOLUTION 😮 BUY ONLY FROM YOUR LOCAL RECORD STORE 😃

  • @MikeGervasi
    @MikeGervasi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are in trouble and have been for a while. When you hear about the upper management hijynx going on it's coming fast.

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope you are wrong. I like their records.

  • @audiotomb
    @audiotomb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I support VMP
    Hate to see them struggle
    I got in early when they brought Fiona Apple out
    Like your focus on the music , who cares on collectability etc
    M45 has a long history
    More a hype sticker junkie than a listener
    First it was
    Only remasters, audiophile labels, ERC snobbery, Mofi the best
    Then a complete Mofi betrayal
    Then a dramatic 180
    After responses telling him to listen to original he reluctantly tried them
    The last couple years
    original pressings only
    I would not recommend his very limited experience

  • @ursaminorjim
    @ursaminorjim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they'll weather this little embezzlement trauma just fine. They're expensive, yes, but the quality of the pressings has been excellent across the board.

  • @beachcomber3036
    @beachcomber3036 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😁 SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL RECORD STORE 😃

  • @davepounds8924
    @davepounds8924 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like troubled times ahead!!

  • @onyx550
    @onyx550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm new to the vinyl world I just got into vinyl about 3 months ago and I live in Denver do you think I should sign up for vinyl me please to help grow my vinyl collection and if you say yes I should join then tell me why thanks

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly? They probably wouldn't want me to say this - but if you just started 3 months ago, stick to quantity over quality for a while. Dont buy total crap - but flea markets, places with cheap records - you can get a lot of stuff and then once have a good amount and you start refining what you like - and you want some variety - consider VMP since they offer the picks and might get you stuff you didn't already have. You can always buy from them without a SUB - or you can also join for a little bit and quit - there is no signup fee. If you do sign up - I have codes in my other videos for discounts!

    • @onyx550
      @onyx550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I'm going to try vmp I'm in Denver Colorado and they are in Denver as well but they just had some problems with the ceo so they fired him so I hope they are still good I kind of heard they are ok but only having one problem with getting box sets out taking a long time so I'm going to try them soon

  • @jayzeeshawn
    @jayzeeshawn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love VMP!!!!

  • @hubtunes9607
    @hubtunes9607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesn’t effect me as a customer

    • @nechadi
      @nechadi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah but how does it affect you?

    • @hubtunes9607
      @hubtunes9607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nechadi Not in the least bit. Im not canceling my subscription

  • @highrantdistrict
    @highrantdistrict 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I have done freelance video marketing work for them for social media", plus you took payment (a box set) to pimp the company, but "other than that" you've never worked for them... man, that's a lot of verbal gymnastics.
    Where do you stand on the lawsuit Alex filed against VMP for retaliation, gender discrimination and a racially hostile workplace? You neglected to mention that in this advert for VMP. Where do you stand?

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I should have clarified my "freelance" video work for them - I have not had to fill out a W9 - or - I have never been considered a "sub contractor" for them - as I do and have done for other companies in my freelance video work. In my opinion - (if you want to call it verbal gymnastics) - I am NOT "an employee" for someone unless I am paying taxes with Uncle Sam with them - In the past I have made videos promoting record shops and owners that I have visited and from those videos....through a monetized YT channel - (and the free beer they gave me in one case)...I was technically paid - but I dont consider myself ever to have been "employed" by them. Where do I stand on an internal company lawsuit I have never heard of until you mentioned it here??? If they are doing that stuff - that is wrong - and a court of law will decide that. Again, I dont work for them so I have no idea. Can you send a link for reference?

  • @robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883
    @robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This here is going to be the death of the vinyl resurrgence.

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The vinyl resurgence will destroy itself with greed

  • @jpwhite1977
    @jpwhite1977 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shilling 😂

    • @PiecesofVinyl
      @PiecesofVinyl  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No that’s this video: Colemine Records Promos - Parlor Greens & More 2024!
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